15/16 HAL Round 10 | Newcastle Jets v Melbourne City | Sunday 13/12/15 ko 515pm

A-League 15/16 Round 10 Preview - Newcastle Jets v Melbourne City

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 16 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 7, City Wins - 6, Drawn - 3

In Newcastle – 8 matches.
Jets Wins - 5, City Wins - 2, Drawn - 1
In Melbourne - 8
Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 4, Drawn - 2

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9899
Average Away A-League Crowd - 6909

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 26, City - 29
In Newcastle -
Jets – 15, City - 11

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 8, City - 8

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 51 (50 yellow, 1 red), City 24 (23 yellow, 1 red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets - LDDDL (3 points from last 15)
City - WLDWW (10 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Milos Trifunovic (4)
City – Bruno Fornaroli (7)

Last Result -
Jets 3 (Kantarovski 58', Trifunovic 74' pen, Trifunovic 78') – City 2 (Mooy 12', Mauk 22') at AAMI Park A-League, Round 4, 30/10/2015.

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 11 Round 4

Newcastle Jets	Melbourne City
Mark Birighitti	Thomas Sorensen
Jason Hoffman	Connor Chapman
Daniel Mullen	Patrick Kisnorbo
Nigel Boogaard	Paulo Retre
Ki-Je Lee	Ben Garrucio
Mateo Poljak	Aaron Mooy
Ben Kantarovski	Jacob Melling
Mitch Cooper	Stefan Mauk
David Carney	Steve Kuzmanovski
Enver Alivodic	Bruno Fornaroli
Milos Trifunovic	David Williams

FIXTURE RECORDS

Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015.

Leading Scorers in fixture –

Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
City - Mate Dugandzic (5)

2015/16 SEASON STATISTICS

Number	Name	Appearances	Starts	Substitute Appearances	Subbed off	Minutes Played	Goals	Assists	Yellow Cards	Red - Second Bookable	Straight Red
1	Mark Birighitti	8	8	0	1	709	0	0	1	0	0
2	Daniel Mullen	4	4	0	0	360	0	0	1	0	0
3	Jason Hoffman	9	9	0	0	810	0	0	3	0	0
4	Nigel Boogaard	6	6	0	1	519	0	0	0	1	0
5	Ben Kantarovski	8	7	1	1	627	2	0	4	0	0
6	Cameron Watson	8	6	2	4	540	0	0	2	0	0
7	Enver Alivodic	9	9	0	1	789	1	0	1	0	0
8	Mateo Poljak	9	9	0	0	810	0	1	1	0	0
9	Milos Trifunovic	8	8	0	2	717	4	0	3	0	0
10	Leonardo Vitor Santiago	6	6	0	5	450	0	1	0	0	0
11	Labinot Haliti	2	1	1	1	24	0	0	0	0	0
12	Andy Brennan	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
13	Ki-Je Lee	7	7	0	0	630	0	1	1	0	0
14	Mitch Cooper	4	1	3	1	63	0	0	0	0	0
15	Themba Muata-Marlow	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
17	Radovan Pavicevic	4	0	4	0	70	0	0	2	0	0
18	Josh Barresi	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
20	Ben Kennedy	2	1	1	0	101	0	0	0	0	0
22	Lachlan Jackson	6	6	0	2	500	0	0	0	0	0
23	David Carney	9	9	0	1	808	2	3	4	0	0
24	Nick Cowburn	4	0	4	0	70	0	0	0	0	0
25	Brandon Lundy	1	0	1	0	75	0	0	0	0	0
27	Braedyn Crowley	3	1	2	0	110	0	0	0	0	0
28	Ryan Kitto	3	1	2	1	115	0	1	0	0	0
29	Andrew Pawiak	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
40	Blake Tuxford	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Scott Miller - 1 win, John Van't Schip - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

• Scott Miller - 1 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
• Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
• Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
• Richard Money - No matches
• Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
• Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
• Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
• Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Melbourne City Coach Record – John Van't Schip 41% win ratio (5 wins, 2 drawn, 5 losses)

KEY FACTS:

General

• The Jets last win came against Melbourne City was the second time they have come from behind at half time to win, and the first from being 2 goals down.
• City scored 5 goals in their last visit to Hunter Stadium
• Newcastle have been scoreless in the first half of the last 8 matches. This equals the previous record which was set last season.
• Both the Jets and the visiting team have entered the sheds scoreless at half time in 12 of the last 18 home matches.
• There is, on average, more than 3 goals per match when these two teams meet and only one match has had fewer than 2 goals.

Players

• Mark Birrighitti has kept 2 clean sheets in his 3 home appearances against Melbourne City
• Milos Trifunovic hasn't had a shot in his last 2 appearances.
• The Jets have been adjudged offside 5 times in each of the last two matches

Coaches

• December has recently been a tough month for Jets coaches. In the previous 4 seasons, the Jets have won 5, drawn 1 and lost 13 matches during the festive period.
• However, the Jets remained winless in November for the second consecutive year.
• Miller's Jets continue to be the tightest defensive team in Jets history, conceding 1.1 goals per match so far this season.
• However, they remain the least disciplined, with an average of 2.6 yellow cards per match. The team's discipline may be improving because they have only received 1 booking in the last 2 matches.

Newcastle Jets

• The Jets have kept the visiting scoreless in the first half of the last 7 matches.
• The Jets have won only one game at home in 2015.

Melbourne City

• City have scored 5 goals in their last two games.
• But they are yet to keep a clean sheet in the A-League
• Melbourne City have kept the Jets scoreless in the first half of the last 5 matches.

draw. 2-2

Doomed.
Flogged.
Prob 10-0.
Mooy to be involved in all the goals and Member to make fart noises with his mouth saying how rubbish he is.

Miller OUT.

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Originally Posted by plague

Doomed.
Flogged.
Prob 10-0.
Mooy to be involved in all the goals and Member to make fart noises with his mouth saying how rubbish he is.

Miller OUT.

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Agree we will loose
Probably not by 10 though

Fully agree that Mooy bloke is rubbish. Laziest most over rated player in the HAL and that includes our blokes

If ever there was a team we should play two strikers against it's City. They always leak goals and there is also the fact they would have trained all week expecting us to only play with a lone striker.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

If ever there was a team we should play two strikers against it's City. They always leak goals and there is also the fact they would have trained all week expecting us to only play with a lone striker.

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well they won't now! :)

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Originally Posted by belchardo

well they won't now! :)

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If JVS is reading the Foz to work out his tactical approach to deal with our shit team this Sunday then he may as well quit.

Millertime on the other hand could learn a thing or two by reading the foz

Will go to usual script...

* Firstly game will be boring overall
* We will not attack in the first 10 mins
* Mooy will be strangely quiet
* Triff will miss a sitter
* Birraz will mess up a cross
* We will scamble two goals inside the six yard box
* There will be one moment of huge controversy
* Leo will get injured
* We will be leading by two
* MC score with 15 mins remaining
* Usual squeaky bum time
* Win 2-1 and we are contenders once more

Ridiculous to think we beat them 3-2 only a couple weeks back in late October.

Now they have won 5-1 last 2 games.

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

Will go to usual script...

* Firstly game will be boring overall
* We will not attack in the first 10 mins
* Mooy will be strangely quiet
* Triff will miss a sitter
* Birraz will mess up a cross
* We will scamble two goals inside the six yard box
* There will be one moment of huge controversy
* Leo will get injured
* We will be leading by two
* MC score with 15 mins remaining
* Usual squeaky bum time
* Win 2-1 and we are contenders once more
* SD Will miss the end

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^^

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

Will go to usual script...

* Firstly game will be boring overall
* We will not attack in the first 10 mins
* Mooy will be strangely quiet
* Triff will miss a sitter
* Birraz will mess up a cross
* We will scamble two goals inside the six yard box
* There will be one moment of huge controversy
* Leo will get injured
* We will be leading by two
* MC score with 15 mins remaining
* Usual squeaky bum time
* Win 2-1 and we are contenders once more

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You know when the last time we scored a goal inside the first 10 minutes was? 3/11/2012 which was a Tiago goal away to Perth.

We are notoriously slow starters

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

You know when the last time we scored a goal inside the first 10 minutes was? 3/11/2012 which was a Tiago goal away to Perth.

We are notoriously slow starters

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Probably because we refuse to take any initiative in the game.

Ffs it took 40 mins for us to actually create a chance at home last time out

How about for once we come charging out the blocks and batter the **** out of our opponent.

We may not score but guarantee we get the crowd on side

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Originally Posted by Superdylan

Ridiculous to think we beat them 3-2 only a couple weeks back in late October.

Now they have won 5-1 last 2 games.

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the whole damn draw is ridiculous

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

the whole damn draw is ridiculous

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We will have played FC 3 times bfore we play Perf for the first time !!!!...

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Probably because we refuse to take any initiative in the game.

Ffs it took 40 mins for us to actually create a chance at home last time out

How about for once we come charging out the blocks and batter the **** out of our opponent.

We may not score but guarantee we get the crowd on side

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Refuse is probably the wrong word. We just don't have the quality to really compete.
I don't think its by choice that we aren't attacking much!

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Originally Posted by leftrightout

Refuse is probably the wrong word. We just don't have the quality to really compete.
I don't think its by choice that we aren't attacking much!

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We never done it under Muppet or GVE either.

We always came out of the blocks slowly

Under Zane we at least showed a little more intent when playing at home.

It has been a long time really since our side has come out at home with the attacking intention to stick it to our opponent.


Far too long.

It should be every game that in the first 15-20 mins we start with energy and intent and play with a passion that shows the opponent they are in for a tough game against us. But no we just park the bus start sloppy and bore our opponent into submission and we then finally start playing when space opens up and they realise they are playing our game not theirs.

I would like to see us try do something different from the kickoff and at least surprise the opposition - play 3-4-3 or 4-4-2 and just get the ball into the box as quickly as possible.

Watching our first 10 mins is like the first session of a test match sometimes, but you remember those tests when someone comes out and has a go from ball one. Of course it won't always come off but at least make the effort now and then.

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Originally Posted by leftrightout

Refuse is probably the wrong word. We just don't have the quality to really compete.
I don't think its by choice that we aren't attacking much!

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Oh come on this is the same horseshit we heard during the GVE era.
Coach is a coward and if he can't get the players he has to play to their strengths then he's failed and should get the **** out.

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

I would like to see us try do something different from the kickoff and at least surprise the opposition - play 3-4-3 or 4-4-2 and just get the ball into the box as quickly as possible.

Watching our first 10 mins is like the first session of a test match sometimes, but you remember those tests when someone comes out and has a go from ball one. Of course it won't always come off but at least make the effort now and then.

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Bang On

Give our opponent something to think about from the off.

We are ridiculously predictable and start at a slow pace and slow tempo. We don't even have the gears to go through really to stretch out in style.

If we start slowly and with a degree of lethargy it transcends through the entire game.
If we start like a house on fire the players get the crowd on side and gain confidence and add in a reward on the scoreboard and the tone is set for the rest of the game

Go hard early.

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Originally Posted by plague

Oh come on this is the same horseshit we heard during the GVE era.
Coach is a coward and if he can't get the players he has to play to their strengths then he's failed and should get the **** out.

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imo GVE had one off the best teams on paper in his last year since the GF win.

miller in comparison doesn't have the same squad.

I think miller is playing to our strengths by being defensive.

we can either go 2 routes.

play like we are, nick a result, draw a lot of games and lose by no more then 1-2 goals max

or we can go the gypos way

lose 5-3 but "entertain"

its going to take at least another a season till we can be competitive in terms of an attacking sense imo.

this team does not have a bloke that can seize initiative from the get go - i.e. griff, taggz

there are no strengths in this area. miller is right to have them playing like they are. they are not good enough to play high-risk football.

member - how do you suggest that miller pumps these blokes up? (i suggest watching this film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avmMdCk-Bvw)

and who should be the man to do it? milos is completely mental but slow as a wet week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thWqNof5nXA

this would do the trick as well

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Originally Posted by plague

Oh come on this is the same horseshit we heard during the GVE era.
Coach is a coward and if he can't get the players he has to play to their strengths then he's failed and should get the **** out.

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I reckon he has got them playing to their strengths.
there strengths are very limited though.

take Birraz as one example, his strength is clearly point blank range shot stopping, his weakness - dealing with crosses.
in the past few weeks, Birraz has stopped coming for crosses almost all together and playing to his strengths - allow them to shoot from point blank range and save it.

if that's not playing to your strengths i'm not sure what is.

Milos is another example - hes really really good an running slow, not chasing and missing the ball and/target when he shoots. They are clearly the strengths he's been playing too.

Carney - strengths - crossing and tricky shit that goes nowhere, hes been playing to that and ignoring defensive responsibilities (something he did so strongly in the Asian Cup final a few years back)



there is three players all playing to their strengths.



our squad is not of high quality, miller is getting a job done with limited cattle.

h'es playing beer football on a beer budget, with stale beer.

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Milos is another example - hes really really good an running slow, not chasing and missing the ball and/target when he shoots. They are clearly the strengths he's been playing too.

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I disagree. He's not had a shot in his last 2 matches so we don't know whether he is playing to his strengths.

To be fair, the injuries to Mullen, Boogaard and Leonardo have seen us actually lose 4-5 players from our top team because Kanta has had to move as has Carney to cover in addition to those players absence.

Horseshit argument.
Of course we are 'playing to our strengths' when you have 4 fullbacks and 2 defensive midfielders on the park then moan that you can't score goals so you'd better stiffen up the defence (which has kept how many clean sheets this year again?)

How about 2 strikers?
How about a more mobile/attacking def mid?
He's not trying anything.
He's a coward.
Cape up for him all you want but pretending like 'this is all we've got' is pissweak.
Why bother having a coach if his entire approach is exactly the same week to week?

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Originally Posted by q-money

this team does not have a bloke that can seize initiative from the get go - i.e. griff, taggz

there are no strengths in this area. miller is right to have them playing like they are. they are not good enough to play high-risk football.

member - how do you suggest that miller pumps these blokes up? (i suggest watching this film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avmMdCk-Bvw)

and who should be the man to do it? milos is completely mental but slow as a wet week

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To me though we are playing high risk football when we have the ball.

Our blokes are not good enough to try passing their way through the opposition. Yet we persist in trying to do it.

FFS play simple football. Get it wide get it long and whip it into the box and see what happens. There is too much unnecessary fancy shit from our blokes that don't work as we don't have the skill set.

I strongly disagree he has us set up right. Defensively yes. Attacking though he is still trying to bite off more than he can chew with a limited squad.


How do I suggest Millertime should pump these blokes up??

Doesn't he have a physcology degree or is that just some more new age Bullshit that don't work.

If he needs some **** to fire these blokes up the solution is at hand

Give me 20 cans pre game and I will do it and blast that 3/4 time speech out of the water

I think Mullen has been a far greater loss than we first thought. He has the ability to bring the ball out from the back which is something we haven't been doing. This is putting greater pressure on our two holders because their striker can just sit on them and the wingers on our full backs. As a aresult we seem to be getting "stuck" at the back and either go long and turn it over or try to play it out under pressure and turn it over.

other then milos we only have Radovan as a striker and I think the fact that miller picked Crowley as a striker over him a couple of weeks ago suggest what he thinks off him.

milos is the only striker of some quality. so I can't even comprehend us playing 2 strikers and at the end off the day other then Brisbane (who you could debate) who plays with 2 strikers and is succeeding.

all teams are playing with a point man with 2 wide guys.

IMO we need to be getting the ball quicker to alivodic and carney so they can do there shit. at the moment with poljak and Watson that isn't happening quick enough. hopefully this weekend kanta will return back to 6 and start recycling possession quicker.

having leo back will be huge as well.

our strikers are such hot garbage

Ahhhhh the squad/players fault for the 7th year running.
Nothing to do with the hypocritical coward in charge.

Cool cool.

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Originally Posted by plague

Ahhhhh the squad/players fault for the 7th year running.
Nothing to do with the hypocritical coward in charge.

Cool cool.

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Most everyone on here blamed Stubbins and Gary for the shit of the past few seasons, last season especially

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Originally Posted by plague

Ahhhhh the squad/players fault for the 7th year running.
Nothing to do with the hypocritical coward in charge.

Cool cool.

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Win as a team and lose as a team

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Originally Posted by plague

Ahhhhh the squad/players fault for the 7th year running.
Nothing to do with the hypocritical coward in charge.

Cool cool.

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A bit hard when our blokes struggle to put 3 passes together!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE

Someone send Miller a copy.

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

A bit hard when our blokes struggle to put 3 passes together!!!

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Isn't that the truth! I was getting so angry watching the first half in particular.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

FFS play simple football. Get it wide get it long and whip it into the box and see what happens. There is too much unnecessary fancy shit from our blokes that don't work as we don't have the skill set.

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Yeh thats it get old devon head to lob some balls into the 4 foot Serbian and the Brazillian with the dodgy knee.

You blokes will all eat your hats when we win the league. Come on Scotty.. I believe.. You and me can soar together.

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

Yeh thats it get old devon head to lob some balls into the 4 foot Serbian and the Brazillian with the dodgy knee.

You blokes will all eat your hats when we win the league. Come on Scotty.. I believe.. You and me can soar together.

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Milos ain't 4 foot tall and if you actually look he is not the worst in the air hence why he has got 2 goals from headers from crosses and 1 from his feet from a cross.

As for the Brazilian with the dodgy knee. The bloke is a failure.

Gives nothing to our side. A couple of fancy step overs and dribbles but no end product at all.

What the **** are we paying this bloke for as he is meant to be a No 10??


Why is he even considered for a spot in the team is beyond me. Bloke has brought nothing to the table in 9 weeks other than a few fancy step overs and dribbles that have achieved nothing

Just like a showbag. Glittery and shiny but ultimately full of useless crap

i think he meant alivodic

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Originally Posted by q-money

i think he meant alivodic

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Yeah thats what I assumed too..

One thing thats gotta change is game time for Cowburn