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    Predictions:

    West Lakes vs New Lambton - WL 2-0
    Azzurri vs Cooks Hill - Azzurri 3-0
    Uni vs Jesmond - Uni 3-2
    Wallsend vs Stockton - 1-1
    Suburbs vs Maryland - Suburbs 4-2

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    Westlakes V New Lambton - WL 4-1
    Azzuri V CHUFC - Azzuri 2-1
    Uni V Jesmond - Uni 8-2
    Wallsend v Stockton - Wallsend 3-1
    Suburbs v Maryland - Suburbs 5-0

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    Azzurri vs. Cooks Hill

    1st Grade - Azzurri 2 vs Cooks Hill 0
    Reserves - Azzurri 1 vs Cooks Hill 0
    Thirds - Azzurri 2 vs Cooks Hill 0

    We were lucky to not concede in the first half in 1st Grade, Cookers applied a bucket load of pressure to no avail and were sliced open on the counter twice.

    Unfortunate for them they finished game with 9 men (1 red, 1 injured and all subs made). They are still a red hot team for my liking and if it clicks, will put many teams to the sword.

    Sincerest thanks for moving game to Fearnley Dawes as Smith Park still looks like Aleppo.

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    Garden Suburb v Maryland Fletcher

    First
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    Reserves
    6-2

    Thirds
    4-0

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    Azzuri off to a flyer, as predicted. Who can beat them? Maryland have surprised many with their solid start. Westlakes aren’t living up to expectations... Many teams bunched on 4 points, this competition is so unpredictable, I look forward to seeing this weekend pan out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kicktheball View Post
    Maryland have surprised many with their solid start.
    It should be noted that this is only in First Grade. Last and second last in the other two grades must be disappointing for the club. Third Grade have a -17 GD after only 3 rounds. Not even Westlakes' infamously shite Third Grade side of 2018 had as bad a GD as Maryland do after three rounds.
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    It's was criticism because the discussion was about rego cost and you stated ours is higher than yours

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    Did I just hear correctly on ABC radio that Azzuri have pissed of FFA? (Only caught back end of interview so apologies if wrong) but apparently an official has tweeted something inappropriate after acknowledging a policy. Seems Azzuri playing with duct tape of logo from now on. David Eiling is it (northern). Again, if I heard incorrect just put it to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charman View Post
    Did I just hear correctly on ABC radio that Azzuri have pissed of FFA? (Only caught back end of interview so apologies if wrong) but apparently an official has tweeted something inappropriate after acknowledging a policy. Seems Azzuri playing with duct tape of logo from now on. David Eiling is it (northern). Again, if I heard incorrect just put it to bed.
    Eland lying through his teeth on ABC Radio.

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    No worries. Always 2 sides to a story. Sorry for any unwarranted attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charman View Post
    No worries. Always 2 sides to a story. Sorry for any unwarranted attention.
    No dramas mate. Absolutely agree there are two sides, just a shame a lot of the info he gave on the radio was incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_butcher View Post
    It should be noted that this is only in First Grade. Last and second last in the other two grades must be disappointing for the club. Third Grade have a -17 GD after only 3 rounds. Not even Westlakes' infamously shite Third Grade side of 2018 had as bad a GD as Maryland do after three rounds.
    Our 3rd grade of 2018 was not infamously shite. They may have been lacklustre in front of goals, defensively inadequate and infamously shite but they were NOT porn stars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXK View Post
    Eland lying through his teeth on ABC Radio.
    Dont cry hard yet.

    The first bloke was lying. Azzurri were big noting how they didnt care about the rule and showed pics of their other affiliations.

    Two clubs broke the rules before they changed.

    Now is it a massive issue? Not really. The initial rules helped curb the ethinic violent rivalry occurring in the "old days". It is also divisive way to run football clubs.

    I think the original heritage of any club should be allowed to be shown but why would you want to play for your local club that doesnt represent you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by traffic light View Post
    Dont cry hard yet.

    The first bloke was lying. Azzurri were big noting how they didnt care about the rule and showed pics of their other affiliations.

    Two clubs broke the rules before they changed.

    Now is it a massive issue? Not really. The initial rules helped curb the ethinic violent rivalry occurring in the "old days". It is also divisive way to run football clubs.

    I think the original heritage of any club should be allowed to be shown but why would you want to play for your local club that doesnt represent you?
    Mate I'm not going to go into the whole NCIP thing here, its not the right thread for it and its been done to death tbh.

    If you were lucky enough to have seen the correspondence that I have seen on the matter, you'd know that Eland was withholding/manipulating information on both platforms (abc and Herald) to suit his cause. Yes, I know and completely understand he would always do that to protect his interests, but doesn't change the fact that he is misrepresenting whats going on, hence my "lying through his teeth comment".

    I'm not going to delve any further into the matter here, as it has been non-stop the last 5 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traffic light View Post
    I think the original heritage of any club should be allowed to be shown but why would you want to play for your local club that doesnt represent you?
    Dumbest comment of 2019. Why would anybody want to play for Hamilton Olympic or Broadmeadow Magic with that logic?

    I’m proud to play for a club with a proud migrant history of which the club was formed given my mother was also a migrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by traffic light View Post
    I think the original heritage of any club should be allowed to be shown but why would you want to play for your local club that doesnt represent you?
    Well there are 40-50 blokes who want to play for Azzurri now. And a stack of women, men and kids whom want to play for the Junior Club. And a whole bunch of people in the area that want to play for Broadmeadow Magic, Newcastle Suns, Hunter Simba, Hamilton Olympic, and a lot of other clubs that don't comply with the NCIP. It doesn't matter why they would want to play for them or not, and if you don't want to play for them then don't.

    I once chose to not play for Jesmond because I couldn't stand the thought of playing at Jesmond Park every second week. It didn't feel inclusive to me to play football. I don't blame Jesmond for that, I was just happy to find an alternative that suited me. I wouldn't want to play for Warners Bay because I don't think their kit colours do my skin tone justice. I don't feel that club offers what I need. But that's my choice, and I happily choose where to play elsewhere. If an ethnic club displaying its colours and heritage truly does drive some people away, the only thing it is doing is hurting themselves and not the people. The club can change their ways if they want, but they have no reason to because quite obviously people of all walks of life want to play for them. Not every single club will be chosen by every single player ever, it is a free world and people can choose to like or dislike any club for whatever reason. If a club realises enough people are saying no to them for a particular reason, it's up to that club to decide whether they change or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito mosquito View Post
    Our 3rd grade of 2018 was not infamously shite. They may have been lacklustre in front of goals, defensively inadequate and infamously shite but they were NOT porn stars!

    #Make3rdsGreatAgain


    Apologies Backed you boys to go from last to first this year, don't let me down!
    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    It's was criticism because the discussion was about rego cost and you stated ours is higher than yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    Well there are 40-50 blokes who want to play for Azzurri now. And a stack of women, men and kids whom want to play for the Junior Club. And a whole bunch of people in the area that want to play for Broadmeadow Magic, Newcastle Suns, Hunter Simba, Hamilton Olympic, and a lot of other clubs that don't comply with the NCIP. It doesn't matter why they would want to play for them or not, and if you don't want to play for them then don't.

    I once chose to not play for Jesmond because I couldn't stand the thought of playing at Jesmond Park every second week. It didn't feel inclusive to me to play football. I don't blame Jesmond for that, I was just happy to find an alternative that suited me. I wouldn't want to play for Warners Bay because I don't think their kit colours do my skin tone justice. I don't feel that club offers what I need. But that's my choice, and I happily choose where to play elsewhere. If an ethnic club displaying its colours and heritage truly does drive some people away, the only thing it is doing is hurting themselves and not the people. The club can change their ways if they want, but they have no reason to because quite obviously people of all walks of life want to play for them. Not every single club will be chosen by every single player ever, it is a free world and people can choose to like or dislike any club for whatever reason. If a club realises enough people are saying no to them for a particular reason, it's up to that club to decide whether they change or not.
    Under what part of the NCIP are Magic, Suns, Olympic not adhering too? (I didn't mention Simba because I honestly do NOT know their emblem or anything about them) I'm very intrigued to see your answer on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlatScreen View Post
    Under what part of the NCIP are Magic, Suns, Olympic not adhering too? (I didn't mention Simba because I honestly do NOT know their emblem or anything about them) I'm very intrigued to see your answer on the matter.
    Magic & Suns both with the sun from the Macedonian Flag in their logo and Suns named, well, Suns. Magic even had the Newcastle Macedonia Soccer Club sponsor on their jersey at one stage didn't they, if they don't still? Olympic with the Greek Olympics logo and Greek warrior on logo. Simba is a Swahili word, which the NCIP states clubs must only use English words in their logos and emblems.

    I personally encourage these clubs to have these references, but apparently to some people it is not inclusive.
    OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    Magic & Suns both with the sun from the Macedonian Flag in their logo and Suns named, well, Suns. Magic even had the Newcastle Macedonia Soccer Club sponsor on their jersey at one stage didn't they, if they don't still? Olympic with the Greek Olympics logo and Greek warrior on logo. Simba is a Swahili word, which the NCIP states clubs must only use English words in their logos and emblems.

    I personally encourage these clubs to have these references, but apparently to some people it is not inclusive.
    I'm pretty sure these are unchanged logos and jerseys since the new rules came in 2014. Magic were forced to change their old logo to new one which was approved and there's no law as to who can sponsor you as far as I'm aware. If Newcastle Macedonia Sports Club sponsors magic then it's fine. Same would go if the Croatia Wickham Sports club was a jersey sponsor for someone or Arrivederci restaurant, etc. If the Azzuri jersey/logo was like they are wanting before 2014 then they wouldn't have an issue.
    My opinion is that the laws are a bit of a joke and are being looked at. I think the point is that Azzuri know the rules are in place, yet are going against it knowing full well that it's not allowed.

    I'm of Italian background, so I'd love the flag on their jersey, but rules are rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    I'm pretty sure these are unchanged logos and jerseys since the new rules came in 2014. Magic were forced to change their old logo to new one which was approved and there's no law as to who can sponsor you as far as I'm aware. If Newcastle Macedonia Sports Club sponsors magic then it's fine. Same would go if the Croatia Wickham Sports club was a jersey sponsor for someone or Arrivederci restaurant, etc. If the Azzuri jersey/logo was like they are wanting before 2014 then they wouldn't have an issue.
    My opinion is that the laws are a bit of a joke and are being looked at. I think the point is that Azzuri know the rules are in place, yet are going against it knowing full well that it's not allowed.

    I'm of Italian background, so I'd love the flag on their jersey, but rules are rules.
    Let me put this simply:
    NCIP says clubs with flags on jersey pre 2014 are allowed but any club after 2014 aren't permitted to put a flag on their jersey
    Anti-discrimination Act says "I don't care about what the NCIP says, that's discrimination". The anti-discrimination act obviously trumps NCIP.

    This is one of the reasons why CCB and Australian Association of Football Clubs (AAFC) have moved towards taking this to the human rights commission and the supreme court (and still might) and why the FFA abolished the policy (or so we thought).
    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    It's was criticism because the discussion was about rego cost and you stated ours is higher than yours

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