Rd 25 Perth Glory hole Vs Newcastle Jets 30/03/14 k/off 7pm AEDST

[hawk]

2013/2014 Hyundai A-League
Round 25
Perth Glory FC vs Newcastle United Jets FC

When: Sun 30 Mar, 2014
Where: nib Stadium, 310 Pier Street, Perth, WA
Kickoff: 7pm AEDST (4am local time)
Tickets: http://www.ticketmaster.com.au
Watch: LIVE on Foxsports 1 and FoxSports 1HD
Listen: ABC Newcastle 1233 or Grandstand Digital
Tweet: @newyboys

[B]head to head
Jets W6 D6 L14
Jets havent won in last 7 games - longest run

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Another bogie team. We will forget how to play and get the usual result, Or, stick to long ball and bang 4 in

[GazFish35]

Hope Eags' knee is up to it.

[MFKS]

Gonna pick typical Jets effort

Penthouse to Shit House in 8 days

4-0 loss

[Blackmac79]

Perth have been dire the last few weeks.

hope we get a result.

[halo se7en]

Jets 1-0, coveny header

[Rocknerd]

Griff brace in the 86 and 90 Minute to round it out to 3-3.

[cobra23]

Vukovic to slap the refs hand, get sent off and recieve a 11 month ban

[Grimario]

Will be interesting to see him do that playing in Japan.

[Superdylan]

When did they change kickoff time to 7pm here 4pm over there. Thought this was meant to kickoff at 5pm our time.

[halo se7en]

Serious prediction. I think we're going to go completely against the odds, and our history, and win comfortably 3-0.

[Premy]

When did they change kickoff time to 7pm here 4pm over there. Thought this was meant to kickoff at 5pm our time.Not 100% sure but the 2pm West Australian heat might have something to do with it.

[coastiehater]

3-0 win. Jets actually back up a good performance with another one. griffo double with carney to put one in the net to seal the deal

[MFKS]

2013/2014 Hyundai A-League
Round 25
Perth Glory FC vs Newcastle United Jets FC

When: Sun 30 Mar, 2014
Where: nib Stadium, 310 Pier Street, Perth, WA
Kickoff: 7pm AEDST (4am local time)
Tickets: http://www.ticketmaster.com.au
Watch: LIVE on Foxsports 1 and FoxSports 1HD
Listen: ABC Newcastle 1233 or Grandstand Digital
Tweet: @newyboys

[B]head to head
Jets W6 D6 L14
Jets havent won in last 7 games - longest run

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Another bogie team. We will forget how to play and get the usual result, Or, stick to long ball and bang 4 in

Didn't realise there was a 15 hour time difference between the West Coast and the East Coast of Australia

[Superdylan]

Not 100% sure but the 2pm West Australian heat might have something to do with it.

Yeah true. Just 5pm would have been handy since I'll be at the knights game at hunter stadium which will end at 4:50pm or so. 2 hours to kill in between games now.

[Beeen]

Get a dog up ya!

[Grimario]

The Hunter Ports Newcastle Jets have named an 18-man squad for Sunday’s clash with Perth Glory at nib Stadium.

Full of confidence after a 5-0 win over Wellington Phoenix at Hunter Stadium last weekend, the Jets will be looking for their first win in Perth since the inaugural Hyundai A-League season on Sunday.

A win for the Jets over the Glory would also see them consolidate their place in the top six with only two matches remaining after Sunday’ fixture.

Newcastle currently sit in sixth place on 32 competition points, ahead of seventh-placed Sydney FC due to goal-difference.

Newcastle Jets squad: 1. Mark BIRIGHITTI (gk), 3. Taylor REGAN, 4. Kew JALIENS, 5. Ben KANTAROVSKI, 6. Zenon CARAVELLA, 8. Ruben ZADKOVICH (c), 9. Emile HESKEY, 11. Craig GOODWIN, 14. Josh MITCHELL, 15. Josh BRILLANTE, 16. Jacob PEPPER, 19. Michael BRIDGES, 21. Sam GALLAWAY, 20. Ben KENNEDY (gk), 22. Adam TAGGART, 23. David CARNEY, 24. Mitch OXBORROW, 29. Joel GRIFFITHS.

Ins: 3. Taylor REGAN (promoted), 16. Jacob PEPPER (promoted).

Outs: Nil.

Unavailable: 2. Scott NEVILLE (knee injury – long term) 25. Mitch COOPER (knee injury – long term).

[plague]

We won't win.

[outsider]

Referee Kris Griffiths-Jones

[joel31]

Reegs and Pepper are back :)

[Rocknerd]

We Just need to #beardown and #fatdogit

[Superdylan]

Back to reality, probably a 3-0 defeat. Please prove me wrong jets.

[pv4]

We Just need to #beardown and #fatdogit

:rof: too soon, man. Blame it on the gas leak year

[furns]

I thought Birraz wouldnt be back from meeting with Ze Germans in time?

[Jetmaster]

I thought Birraz wouldnt be back from meeting with Ze Germans in time?

Fly straight to Perf....and can snooze off his jetlag on the bench.

[Jeterpool]

I'll attempt to get the stats up tonight guys - busy week sorry.

[Retro Jet]

I'll attempt to get the stats up tonight guys - busy week sorry.

And they'll be Fugly!

[Jeterpool]

And they'll be Fugly!

No self portraits this week

[MFKS]

Pulled out my season draw and this game is meant to be played today Saturday according to the original draw released.

When was the change of date made and how well was this informed to the masses??
I never heard anything and thought we were playing on Saturday originally but assumed I must have been wrong when Sunday was mentioned

Hate to have booked travel to Perth early and had it put into disarray by the change.

[Bradj]

Pretty sure it was moved so that nrl could play there tonight

[hawk]

Didn't realise there was a 15 hour time difference between the West Coast and the East Coast of Australia

emphasising that time in wa is to far for us to give a s*** about.

[Jeterpool]

Round 25 Preview – Perth Glory v Newcastle Jets

Overall – 26 games between the two teams.
Jets Wins – 6, Glory Wins – 14, Drawn – 6

In Perth – 12 games
Jets Wins – 1, Glory Wins – 7, Drawn – 4

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 29, Glory – 47

Cards in Fixture
Jets – 52 (51 Yellow, 1 Red), Glory – 43 (40 Yellow, 3 Red)

Recent Form
Jets – LWWLW,
Glory – LLDLL

Leading Scorers
Jets – Adam Taggart 13, Glory – Shane Smeltz 4

Last Result -
Jets 0 – Glory 1 (Harold 38’) at Hunter Stadium, Round 13.

Biggest Win
Jets 4 (Haliti 13’, Brockie 54’, Petrovski 68’ pen, 69’) – Glory, Round Mid Week 1, Season 6 at Energy Australia Stadium, 10/02/2010.

Heaviest Defeat
Jets 1 (Parisi 71’) – Glory 5 (Mori 33’, 62’, Harnwell 46’, Despotovski 52’, Sekulovski 81’), Round 7, Season 1 at Energy Australia Stadium, 08/10/2005.

Leading Scorers in fixture –
Jets – 6 (Joel Griffiths)
Glory – 7 (Jamie Harwell)

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches


Newcastle Jets Coaching Records –
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (3 wins, 6 drawn and 7 losses = 19% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 2 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 4 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)

Average Away crowd – 8631

Key facts:
• As has been heavily reported during the week, the Jets haven’t won in Perth since Season 1, Round 14. That’s approximately 9.5 years. The average score in Perth is 2-1 to Perth.
• The Jets have lost on the last 6 visits to Perth.
• The Jets haven’t beaten Perth in the last 7 meetings between the two clubs.
• This game will be the first time Jack Duncan faces his old club.
• Adam Taggart is only 1 goal off equalling the Jets record for most goals in a season.
• The Jets haven’t scored against Perth this season.
• Ben Kennedy has kept 3 clean sheets in 10 appearances against Peth, the most of any Jets keeper.
• Perth has kept 4 clean sheets in the last 6 matches against the Jets, but haven’t kept a clean sheet since Round 15.
• There have been 10 penalties awarded in the 26 fixtures.
• Daniel Piorkowski is the only Jets player to have received a red card against Perth.
• The Season 4, Round 11 match is the 9th dirtiest game in A-League history.
• The two teams have tended to score more goals in the second half than the first in these fixtures.
• Joel Griffith’s goal last weekend means he is the first Jets player to reach 30 A-League goals for the club.

The Referee – Kris Griffiths-Jones:
• Has refereed a Perth/Jets fixture once, which was a victory for the Jets.
• Has refereed 7 previous matches involving the Jets with a W-D-L record of 2-2-3.
• He is the only referee who has sent Zadkovich off in his Jets career.
• The last two Jets games he has officiated, he has booked 4 Jets players.
• The last game he officiated was the Round 4 clash this season against the Mariners, which was a 2-2- draw.
• There is an average of 3 goals per Jets game he officiates.

[belchardo]

Game day. Feeling a bit confident about this one.

[Grimario]

Massive loss. BK to be at fault for all of them, griff to get a red and pretty much ruin our finals chances.

[halo se7en]

Can't believe we've only had one player sent off. I'm sure we'd received a few reds over there.

[MFKS]

Usually I avoid listening to NTUA on game days. Other than hearing it just pre kick off I feel we are cursed anytime I hear it on game days. Every time I have ever put it on and belted it out Karaoke with with Hutcho we get rolled. No Draws just ****ing losses

As a result I won't listen to it on MP3 player or what not at all on game days. Strolling around the shops this morning minding my own business whilst walking past Sanity they were thumping it out loud and proud. First thought was what was that sound. Then Followed by **** NO

Got even worse when I jumped in the car to come home and flipped on the radio and you will never guess what was playing

FARKING ****S

ITS AN OMEN FROM THE GODS
MAY GRIFF HAVE MERCY ON US

[militiamon]

^ Let me guess, Plague Jnr has made his way to Perth to cheer on the boys as well?

10-0 loss.

[MFKS]

^ Let me guess, Plague Jnr has made his way to Perth to cheer on the boys as well?

10-0 loss.
Plague Jnr seen his first win last weekend.

5-0 All down hill for him now

[hawk]

you guys^....rofl

had the chance to buy Smeltz, didnt, hasnt done much this year, whats the chance that.......

[plague]

Plague Jnr seen his first win last weekend.

5-0 All down hill for him now

and to be fair, Plague Jnr lost his game this morning.
Should have paid more attention to Griff last weekend.

[joel31]

The Newcastle Jets have named an unchanged line-up for Sunday night's Round 25 Hyundai A-League fixture against Perth Glory at nib Stadium.

Perth Glory starting XI: 2.Jack CLISBY, 5.Rostyn GRIFFITHS, 7.Jacob BURNS (c), 8.Nebojsa MARINKOVIC, 10.Jamie MACLAREN, 14.Steven McGARRY, 17.Chris HAROLD, 18.Jack DUNCAN(gk), 19.Josh RISDON, 23.Michael THWAITE, 36. William GALLAS
Substitutes: 3. Brandon O’NEILL, 4. Ryan EDWARDS, 16.Sidnei SCIOLA MORAES, 28.Darvydas SERNAS, 39.Luke RADONICH (gk).

Newcastle Jets starting XI: 4.Kew JALIENS, 6.Zenon CARAVELLA, 8.Ruben ZADKOVICH (c), 9.Emile HESKEY, 14.Josh MITCHELL, 15.Josh BRILLANTE, 21.Sam GALLAWAY, 20.Ben KENNEDY (gk), 22.Adam TAGGART, 23.David CARNEY, 29.Joel GRIFFITHS.
Substitutes: 1.Mark BIRIGHITTI (gk), 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI, 11.Craig GOODWIN, 19.Michael BRIDGES, 24.Mitch OXBORROW.

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Starting-XI-Glory-v-Jets/89164
same line-up, hopefully same level of performance

[Premy]

Come on you farks its in your hands

[Premy]

Tifo from the shed.
"2004 Champions 2014 A New Lowe"

[Premy]

:banghead:

[la bazzle]

listening on radio.....is anything actually happening?

[Rocky]

listening on radio.....is anything actually happening?

nope

[Premy]

listening on radio.....is anything actually happening?
Aside from Taggart missing a open net, not really.

[joel31]

Aside from Taggart missing a open net, not really.
it was a tough angle on his weaker foot

[sammydog]

Aside from Taggart missing a open net, not really.

Should have cut it square to griffiths to be fair. Better option.

[la bazzle]

Aside from Taggart missing a open net, not really.

He's the last leg of my multi to score...what a ****

[Thomas477]

**** me this is boring.

[Thomas477]

Also Carney FFS.

How hard is it to ****ing throw a ball. FFS.

[la bazzle]

Taggart hates one on ones.....hates me winning money too

[joel31]

best chance to win

far to wasteful recently

[Rocky]

FFS taggz put it in

[sammydog]

Taggart hates one on ones.....hates me winning money too

Has he scored a one on one this season?

[joel31]

he should have took his time more and put it hard into the corner

[joel31]

Has he scored a one on one this season?
against roar the first time, from a chip

[Premy]

Should have cut it square to griffiths to be fair. Better option.
Or take another touch he was already past the Keeper.

it was a tough angle on his weaker footAny Striker worth their salt would of finished it, add to that the one on one he just wasted. His a little overrated IMO sure his done well to score 13 goals this year but a lot of those have been opportunistic Jonny on the spot type goals.

[Rocky]

Hesky playing the lay offs nicely, created a few good chances.

[joel31]

If we're gonna win we really need to be more clinical
Move Taggart wide and put Griff central.

[Premy]

If we're gonna win we really need to be more clinical
Move Taggart wide and put Griff central.
Couldn't agree more.

[BodyNovo]

Last 5 minutes we finally started to play some football

Perths only option is to play it long to Harold/Mclaren who are being well marked by kew and Mitchell

I reckon we will over run them in the second half. McGarry and burns will tire

[sammydog]

he should have took his time more and put it hard into the corner

Id say he took too much time.

[belchardo]

Or take another touch he was already past the Keeper.
Any Striker worth their salt would of finished it, add to that the one on one he just wasted. His a little overrated IMO sure his done well to score 13 goals this year but a lot of those have been opportunistic Jonny on the spot type goals.

Far out. I'm not sure if you are taking the piss or not.

[joel31]

goalazo

[la bazzle]

thank **** for that

[Rocky]

Fuarrrrrkin yes!!!!

[Grimario]

Love that bloke. Sign him for life. Then splice some Griff DNA into him.

[belchardo]

Woo!

[Jeterpool]

He's the last leg of my multi to score...what a ****

Winner!

[Retro Jet]

"Dear SHIT in the Shit Shed, I'd hardly call Ben Kennedy 'fat' you retards....."
Perth glory Shed songs...songs of the Lowest order!

[la bazzle]

Winner!

always had his back. Big Tagz u legend

[Jeterpool]

This game has opened up.

[joel31]

This game has opened up.
hopefully we take advantage

[Jeterpool]

always had his back. Big Tagz u legend

Hope a) it was a good return and b) mrs la bazzle doesn't know

[Jeterpool]

Carney looks like Brody off homeland, I've just realised.

[la bazzle]

Not bad had it in with adelaide and dortmund. Mrs Labaz is non the wiser as it should be

[Premy]

Far out. I'm not sure if you are taking the piss or not.
Not at all, as I said earlier his done well to score now 14 goals and take nothing away from that.

Once again but six yard tap in, sure his done well to be in the right position but one could only imagine how many he would of scored if he wasn't so wasteful with some chances. From memory the 2 bombs from outside the box in consecutive weeks I can't think of many more where it was either a tap in or a bit fortunate.

Edit: This is just my opinion but if he wants to take his game to the next level, frequent National team and beyond the A-League. He needs to be more clinical and finish those half chances because in the step up those chances will be few and far between. I hope he does but all this hype saying his the next best thing is a big stretch hence my "overrated" comment

[joel31]

we are far to open. bring off a striker (Taggart) for another centre mid (Oxborrow)

[joel31]

birraz would have saved that

[Rocky]

Had a bad feeling about that one

[Premy]

Fark

[belchardo]

Gotta love these jets...

[joel31]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Grimario]

**** off.

[Premy]

birraz would have saved that
Lol seen that one coming

[Rocky]

**** these cvnts

[la bazzle]

clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap jets!.....

[Premy]

Double fark

[Jeterpool]

Build our hopes up to smash them to pieces

[joel31]

zane out. he should have tried to close the game but instead allowed us to continue with an open defensive structure

[Grimario]

zane out. he should have tried to close the game but instead allowed us to continue with an open defensive structure

He really doesn't make the right decisions, does he? No reaction to the obvious change in the flow of game, just a like for like with Goodwin on for Carney and doing everything to let Perth back into it.

If he is the boss next year, will be a pretty big **** you to Newcastle at how serious the club want to be about football.

[joel31]

why kick it out for corner should have cleared up field

[Jeterpool]

Disappointing end to weekend

[BodyNovo]

Deadset hate football hey

[lquiquer]

F#%^*+g joke... Going camping next week end. Had enough.

[joel31]

why???
Its just the small things that lose it for us. Taggart's chance. Zane's tactical naivety. Giving away silly free kicks at the edge of the area. Not diving for the free kick. Not tracking runs.

[sammydog]

Originally I was pissed we have our first game of the season clashing with the Adelaide game. Now I realise its for the better, I'm not sure I can pick myself up for the final game of the season where there is a glimmer of hope for finals football, only to have my hopes smashed again.

[hawk]

dumb fvcks. couldnt beat a bunch of hacks. hope we lose the next 2

[Blackmac79]

Far out. I hate the jets. I hate football.


Forza netball

[roundballsarebetter]

Good to see ben kennedys human statue routine is still in his repertoire

[q-money]

wasn't a bad free kick ay

[Mitchy]

wasn't a bad free kick ay

This

[parksey]

/life

[sammydog]

Free kick was a cracker.

And for the 2nd goal, BK wouldn't have been in the shit if the two defenders didn't just stand there and stop tracking the runner. Absolute crap in the back line for the second.

[Thomas477]

So a good free kick somehow immobilises other players? If BK had dived we wouldn't be having this conversation. BK wasn't good enough 3 years ago, wasn't good enough last year and isn't good enough now. It's the Tarek effective, because the bloke's been here a while people seem to forget how average he was.

Or, keep BK, Jerks lose their remaining games and Middleby gets the sack. Honestly don't mind either scenario.

[roundballsarebetter]

Lol watch replay of the goal he wasnt even standing in tge middle of the goal he was behind the wall standing on the side the goal the ball went in , a full length flop and his hands would of gone past the post...... Just poor concentration to get caught out

[GazFish35]

Bet bk was fazed though.

At least he cares.


Birraz can eat a bag of dicks for his attitude after the derby game.

[Superdylan]

Back to reality, probably a 3-0 defeat. Please prove me wrong jets.

Well knew we would lose

[BodyNovo]

So a good free kick somehow immobilises other players? If BK had dived we wouldn't be having this conversation. BK wasn't good enough 3 years ago, wasn't good enough last year and isn't good enough now. It's the Tarek effective, because the bloke's been here a while people seem to forget how average he was.

Or, keep BK, Jerks lose their remaining games and Middleby gets the sack. Honestly don't mind either scenario.

Lel

[The Dunster]

Perth were the better team for the majority of the game. Apart from the Taggart goal, the Jets were complete shit all game.
Perth deserved the win and the Jets deserve to have yet again missed making the finals.

Not difficult to see why Kanta hasn't been starting games recently. He looked to be really struggling out there with the crowded midfield. He wasn't alone though.

The Jets really struggled to keep possession and our ball movement was simply too slow to be effective at this level.

As for Clayton Zane, I can't wait to hear his explanation for the substitutions.

Woeful effort all round. I'm just glad I didn't fly over to watch that shit in person.

[la bazzle]

Well knew we would lose

Supernostradamus

[The Dunster]

So a good free kick somehow immobilises other players? If BK had dived we wouldn't be having this conversation. BK wasn't good enough 3 years ago, wasn't good enough last year and isn't good enough now. It's the Tarek effective, because the bloke's been here a while people seem to forget how average he was.

Or, keep BK, Jerks lose their remaining games and Middleby gets the sack. Honestly don't mind either scenario.

The Adelaide coach disagrees with you about Tarek.

Bk certainly isn't the first keeper to be beaten by a quality free-kick either. Props to Perth , the free kick was a cracker and deserved to find the back of the net.

[Thomas477]

The Adelaide coach disagrees with you about Tarek.

Bk certainly isn't the first keeper to be beaten by a quality free-kick either. Props to Perth , the free kick was a cracker and deserved to find the back of the net.

*WAS not is. Brown was great at Fold Coast before GvE got his claws into him.

Not saying BK was the first, but it's positioning, he has a bad habit of being in the wrong position, see ADP FK last year, and not even going for the ball ffs. At least try.

[joel31]

Perth were the better team for the majority of the game. Apart from the Taggart goal, the Jets were complete shit all game.
Perth deserved the win and the Jets deserve to have yet again missed making the finals.

Not difficult to see why Kanta hasn't been starting games recently. He looked to be really struggling out there with the crowded midfield. He wasn't alone though.

The Jets really struggled to keep possession and our ball movement was simply too slow to be effective at this level.

As for Clayton Zane, I can't wait to hear his explanation for the substitutions.

Woeful effort all round. I'm just glad I didn't fly over to watch that shit in person.
we are outnumbered in midfield. Zane is sticking to 4-4-2 over all else. Kanta's role is too broad, instead of being a solid holder under GVE, he is required to be more box to box

[The Dunster]

Why do we pay $200 plus a year for Jets tickets when we can punch ourselves in the groin for free ?

[Jeterpool]

I guess on a plus I thought this was going to be a wooden spoon battle a few weeks back.

We dominated possession and got through a few times but didn't really take the chance. After the goal they stepped it up and yes things needed to change.

We played really cagey across the back and our mids seemed really spread.

At the end of the day glory wanted it more. A silly free kick conceded and I don't know what Mitchell was thinking on the second!

Well it's no longer in our own hands and it'll probably come down to the last game...again

[furns]

Why do we pay $200 plus a year for Jets tickets when we can punch ourselves in the groin for free ?because we could be SFC fans who pay double that for the same levels of shitness

[Jeterpool]

Why do we pay $200 plus a year for Jets tickets when we can punch ourselves in the groin for free ?

Clearly we're all masochistic

[snake]

my highlight was birishitti on the bench with a slapped arse for a face

[parksey]

Why do we pay $200 plus a year for Jets tickets when we can punch ourselves in the groin for free ?

it's better when someone else punches you in the groin

[stopper2]

*WAS not is. Brown was great at Fold Coast before GvE got his claws into him.

Not saying BK was the first, but it's positioning, he has a bad habit of being in the wrong position, see ADP FK last year, and not even going for the ball ffs. At least try.
You are a low grub Thomas, making BK out us a scapegoat for the loss. It was a heartless, insipid performance from start to finish with no hunger from the players to show they want to play Finals.....but lets go for poor old BK because he is an easy target.
Are you the sort of lowlife who kicks another bloke while he is down on the ground!!!

[GazFish35]

At least the freekick bk let in was from inside his own half, and I'm sure he didn't drop it at the strikers feet for the second.


I'm with stopper on this, I reckon we petition bk to have "scapegoat" made his middle name.

The freekick was a belter, and second was poor tracking from defenders meaning he had a bullet coming at him from close range.

Let's conveniently forget the saves he makes, and focus on the goals three keepers wouldn't have stopped.

[Thomas477]

At least the freekick bk let in was from inside his own half, and I'm sure he didn't drop it at the strikers feet for the second.


I'm with stopper on this, I reckon we petition bk to have "scapegoat" made his middle name.

The freekick was a belter, and second was poor tracking from defenders meaning he had a bullet coming at him from close range.

Let's conveniently forget the saves he makes, and focus on the goals three keepers wouldn't have stopped.

Who let in the FK from the other half?

Yes it may well have been, but what stopped bk at least TRYING to make a save? If he had tried I wouldn't have an issue.

And that seemed to be the reasoning behind Birraz's execution. God knows how many times he's save our arse over the past 2 or so seasons, but he makes 2 mistakes, one of which wasn't as big as it's been played up to be (the other was).

[WolfMan]

Due to a pact with a fellow Jets supporter, I had $50 on Perth to win, and he had the same on the Jets. I was more than happy to lose my pineapple for the greater good of a massive 3 points.

Sadly, we all know what happened and the $165 is not enough to placate my disappointment.

Screw this shite.

[q-money]

why don't you just marry birraz and be done with it thomas

[parksey]

excited about the big move to germany, thomas?

[Thomas477]

You are a low grub Thomas, making BK out us a scapegoat for the loss. It was a heartless, insipid performance from start to finish with no hunger from the players to show they want to play Finals.....but lets go for poor old BK because he is an easy target.
Are you the sort of lowlife who kicks another bloke while he is down on the ground!!!

**** off. All I was doing was pointing out that BK DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT a save for the free kick. As I have stated twice now, if he had DONE HIS JOB and TRIED to make a save, even if he didn't get to it, I wouldn't have been having a go at him. BK also hasn't improved his positioning for free kicks, which is a basic skill FFS. Birraz at least tries to get there. Forgive me if I want my keepers at least trying to make a save instead of just standing there. People didn't seem to mind blaming Birghitti for the loss to the scum when he ****ed up, but suddenly because it's BK he's a protected species?

And if it was you, I would seriously think about it.

[militiamon]

Meh, I am a BK fan, erryone knows it, but on first viewing it did look a little soft. Not nearly as bad as either of Birraz's in Gosford, but I would've liked to have seen him on his toes a bit more. No need to be starting World War III over it.

The second goal we conceded was another matter. Shocking work from the central defenders for the one.

Summary:

- We played pretty shit overall
- Taggz had at least 3 clear cut chances he should have put away, only managed 1.
- BK was probably caught out for that first goal
- Terrible defending for our 2nd conceded, game should have ended 1-1

[The Dunster]

BK is far more composed in goal, more dominant in his six yard box, and has infinitely better ball distribution skills than Birraz.

Birra as far as distribution goes misses his man quite a lot when kicking the ball out and far too often he kicks the ball out of play .

Possibly the worst Australian signing by a German team since Dean Heffernan and Michael Beauchamp were offered contracts.

[Thomas477]

- We played pretty shit overall
- Taggz had at least 3 clear cut chances he should have put away, only managed 1.
- BK was probably caught out for that first goal
- Terrible defending for our 2nd conceded, game should have ended 1-1

This. However, hopefully it means that RM might resign if we don't make the finals.

[lquiquer]

14/4/14: Mad Monday booked... Tick

[MFKS]

SO out of curiosity criticism of BK is off limits is it??

I am also baffled as to how he made little effort for the free kick.

Moving your feet and diving is a good place to start

Birraz back in

As for the criticism of Taggz missing one on ones. Well it is something that will come with time and experience. Sooner or later he will start putting more in and the argument will be redundant. The good thing is he keeps getting into those positions with more and more frequency.

To me I think we lost it when 1-0 up we never went for the jugular in attack. Seriously what did Duncan have to save in the last 30mins???

Little

We had plenty of ball down there and he was not tested. Constant problem for the Jets over the years of getting a lead and not pushing on with it with an intent to make it bigger. No we try and sit on it and hold on.

Told you the hearing of NTUA was an Omen

[MFKS]

Also find it rather ironic the bloke who won the free kick for the first goal and put on the final ball for the second goal shouldn't have even been on the park.

How do you get a yellow for an aggressive 2 footed lunge tackle???

Only in the HAL

[pv4]

I only got the chance to watch the first 70mins.

There was a freekick in a dangerous area for Perth that I think McGarry or someone ended hitting straight into the wall at waist-height, but I distinctly remember looking at BK's positioning and thinking "man, he learnt nothing from that stinker of an effort he did for ADP's freekick". I then told anyone near me that I thought BK would concede a freekick that night. I'm sure the eventual freekick was good and all (still haven't seen it) but the fact I could predict it happen says to me that BK has a SERIOUS issue, and a major downfall in his game. I was really impressed with BK last week, and in general most of last night, but if a freekick is ever taken against him it just noticeably looks like he is asking them to score IMO.

Thought Heskey was brilliant.

Did anyone notice that only Gallaway, Kanta & Brillante celebrated with Taggz? I think he has a personality clash with the older players in the group.

[lquiquer]

I only got the chance to watch the first 70mins.

Lucky u

[Newy]

**** off. All I was doing was pointing out that BK DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT a save for the free kick. As I have stated twice now, if he had DONE HIS JOB and TRIED to make a save, even if he didn't get to it, I wouldn't have been having a go at him. BK also hasn't improved his positioning for free kicks, which is a basic skill FFS. Birraz at least tries to get there. Forgive me if I want my keepers at least trying to make a save instead of just standing there. People didn't seem to mind blaming Birghitti for the loss to the scum when he ****ed up, but suddenly because it's BK he's a protected species?

And if it was you, I would seriously think about it.

Check out the free kick Birraz let in this year.. (Think western sydney at home)..

Then come speak to us about positioning and trying to get there

[pv4]

BK ... has infinitely better ball distribution skills than Birraz.

Birra as far as distribution goes misses his man quite a lot when kicking the ball out and far too often he kicks the ball out of play .

Possibly the worst Australian signing by a German team since Dean Heffernan and Michael Beauchamp were offered contracts.

This is so very different to my view on Biraz. I think he is the best distributing GK the HAL has seen apart from Ryan tbh.

I can't agree with basically anything in your entire post. I will say that BK looked pretty composed and dominant in goal these last two weeks, but whether I think he's better than Biraz I'm not sure.

[leftrightout]

Dive or no dive, that free kick was not being saved!
It was hit with power and perfectly placed.

BK did pull off a brilliant save from a free kick taken in a wide position, tapped it onto the post!

He did enough to hold his spot for me.

Can someone please tell me what our club sees in Galloway? He is a shocking player, he reminds me of Pedj Bojic but not as good, and thats saying something because that guy is not a footballers arsehole!

[GazFish35]

SO out of curiosity criticism of BK is off limits is it??


Not at all, just needs to be fair and balanced.
He copped so much undeserved shit last time he played for us he became the easy target and the scapegoat for all our problems.

He moved slightly too early for the free kick, meaning when it came around the wall he was in the air, by the time he landed to bounce of his toes it was too late to adjust...... This was largely due to the fact the ball was hit with power past/over the wall. Ie great freekick to wrong foot the keeper.


The second was never his fault. End of.


I'm all for players being criticized but people still have bad memories of his last stint in goals and it's clouding their judgement. Bad memories not from him being bad, but from him being better than he was judged to be and abused unfairly.

Birraz is remembered with rose coloured glasses, people claim he "made two mistakes" before getting dropped when in reality had been weakening for some time.

Birraz wouldn't have saved either goal and Bk made some great saves. Comments and criticism need to be based on what happened, not what on people want to have happened.

[Jeterpool]

After thinking about it, we are playing the players and trying to fit a formation around them, not the formation and picking the players that best suit their system.

Zane is accomodating a bloke on marquee wages, a bloke who can't stop scoring, a club legend and an ex-socceroo. Because of this, we have lost a player in midfield and we are being over run, both on and off the ball. Until we start addressing the midfield we will continue to expose out defence time and time again. We can blame them (not saying we are) but the statistics will show that the more frequently an opportunity is given the more likely the opposition are to score.

We were really cruising for the majority of yesterday. I agree that Zane got his tactics wrong after the goal and failed to address Glory's increased pressure.

[Thomas477]

Dive or no dive, that free kick was not being saved!
It was hit with power and perfectly placed.

BK did pull off a brilliant save from a free kick taken in a wide position, tapped it onto the post!

He did enough to hold his spot for me.

Can someone please tell me what our club sees in Galloway? He is a shocking player, he reminds me of Pedj Bojic but not as good, and thats saying something because that guy is not a footballers arsehole!

I don't think people are complaining that he SHOULD have saved it, more at least TRYING to save it.

And Galloway plays for Victory.

[pv4]

After thinking about it, we are playing the players and trying to fit a formation around them, not the formation and picking the players that best suit their system.

Zane is accomodating a bloke on marquee wages, a bloke who can't stop scoring, a club legend and an ex-socceroo. Because of this, we have lost a player in midfield and we are being over run, both on and off the ball. Until we start addressing the midfield we will continue to expose out defence time and time again. We can blame them (not saying we are) but the statistics will show that the more frequently an opportunity is given the more likely the opposition are to score.

Really? I don't see it like that. IMO as much as Foxsports showed our lineup as a 4-2-1-3 with Taggz playing the 1 and a front line of Carney, Heskey & Griff, really we play a 4-4-1-1 with Heskey behind Taggz.

I think, rather than Carney and Griff being forwards, they're strictly wide mids in a 4-4-2 situation. And I have REALLY been enjoying them there. At times they lose the ball, but mostly they are focused on keeping possesion. They don't offer booming runs down the wing as much, but to me they're doing a really good job at allowing us to at least attempt to keep the ball in midfield. When we used to have the likes of Goodwin at LM and Virgilli at RM, I thought the centre guys were incredibly isolated. Now, with Griff and Carney, I don't get that feeling. You say we've taken a midfielder out, I think we've steeled/matured it up.

The problem we had yesterday IMO is we allowed it to be a very labourous game. I thought Zads gave Burns way too much space & respect, too.

[GazFish35]

I don't think people are complaining that he SHOULD have saved it, more at least TRYING to save it.

And Galloway plays for Victory.

Watch his feet FFS.
He moved to be on his toes (as he should)
The pace of the ball me at it was essentially past him before he landed on his toes.
You try diving while your feet are off the ground.

The pace of the ball beat him.
If he had of dived you'd be complaining he dived too late and wasn't trying hard enough.

[Hunter403]

Once again defeat is snatched from the jaws of victory.:banghead::banghead:

[hawk]

we're fighting for 6th out of 10 teams, lol. the bigger our next defeat the more change will be sought

[De-Champ]

Next week Thomas477 should be in goals.

[Grimario]

I've done it, lads. Finally unfollowed Jets on FB. No more trolling to get MFKFC to come out in defense of Kale, no more arguing with the plebs on there.

Apparently this week, GRIFF is to blame for us losing.

smh

[Thomas477]

Watch his feet FFS.
He moved to be on his toes (as he should)
The pace of the ball me at it was essentially past him before he landed on his toes.
You try diving while your feet are off the ground.

The pace of the ball beat him.
If he had of dived you'd be complaining he dived too late and wasn't trying hard enough.

True, it is very hard to dive when in the air. So why was BK jumping again? All it does is show another technical deficiently in his game. What he should have done is be on his toes before the whistle was even blown to take the FK, and you don't have to be jumping to be on your toes. Not difficult.


Next week Thomas477 should be in goals.

Sounds good, although I'm not good with crosses. BK is decent on them.

[Jetmaster]

why don't you just marry birraz and be done with it thomas

Now I know why I haven't seen Birraz with a girlfriend......

As I read somewhere else, Birraz was bagged on Total Football one night for letting three consecutive goals go in without effort.

And seriously, Griff must be made accountable for that free kick....he had the red mist and was looking for retribution no matter what.

[belchardo]

And seriously, Griff must be made accountable for that free kick....he had the red mist and was looking for retribution no matter what.

I didn't think it was a free kick at all.

[Grimario]

Forget Griff, the guy he fouled shouldn't have even been on the pitch. Inconsistency of the officials yet again. **** the lot of them.

[De-Champ]

True, it is very hard to dive when in the air. So why was BK jumping again? All it does is show another technical deficiently in his game. What he should have done is be on his toes before the whistle was even blown to take the FK, and you don't have to be jumping to be on your toes. Not difficult.



Sounds good, although I'm not good with crosses. BK is decent on them.

Don't have to be as long as your on your toes

[The Dunster]

I don't think people are complaining that he SHOULD have saved it, more at least TRYING to save it..

This explains your love of Birraz. He dives at balls ten feet over or ten feet wide of the goals.

To me it just makes him look like an attention seeking bitch.

A good keeper or any professional for that matter should make things look easy - not difficult.

[GazFish35]

True, it is very hard to dive when in the air. So why was BK jumping again? All it does is show another technical deficiently in his game. What he should have done is be on his toes before the whistle was even blown to take the FK, and you don't have to be jumping to be on your toes. Not difficult.



complete BS.
Any decent goalkeeper coach tecahes two key points a keeper needs to do before diving.

1. Be on your toes moveing forward - evenly balanced - acheive this by making a small leap/jump/bounce forward. - the ready position.
2. The power step - if time permits, step towards the ball to the side on which your diving.


watch this Man Utd. clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwH-VVsONp0
Watch De Gea's feet at 2:26 - a small bounce/jump to end up on his toes. Its goalkeeping 101

the power on the strike and the ball being unsighted due the wall meant that when BK was performing this piece of technique CORRECTLY and he was not "wrong footed" but "no footed"
the pace beat him, NOT poor technique.




but keep beliveing what you want.

[The Dunster]

I doubt any of the Perth Glory fans are saying: "Piss weak freekick, can't believe that Jets Keeper didn't save it".

Instead they would have been enjoying it for what it was - a great freekick.

[plague]

Spurs keeper did the exact same thing this morning vs Liverpool. Suarez just missed around the post but keeper was flat footed because by the time he saw the ball his weight was guessing the 'wrong' way (that's cause the wall is there to protect the other side).

Get over it, twas a grand free kick.

[q-money]

but he didn't do a fully sick dive and knee skid

[MFKS]

complete BS.
Any decent goalkeeper coach tecahes two key points a keeper needs to do before diving.

1. Be on your toes moveing forward - evenly balanced - acheive this by making a small leap/jump/bounce forward. - the ready position.
2. The power step - if time permits, step towards the ball to the side on which your diving.


watch this Man Utd. cliphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwH-VVsONp0
Watch De Gea's feet at 2:26 - a small bounce/jump to end up on your toes.

the power on the strike and the abll gover unsighted due the wall meant that when BK was performing this piece of technique CORRECTLY and he was not "wrong footed" but "no footed"
the pace beat him, NOT poor technique.


but keep beliveing what you want.

When the bloke has a rather bad habit of regularly not actually diving for goals he concedes the issue of technique is irrelevant.

[GazFish35]

because he works well with defenders to create a strong defensive unit that opposition teams must work at breaking down. And when they do its from pdefenders getting caught out leaving Keeper stranded - see 2nd goal.

Birraz = Shotstopper, camera keeper.
BK = Goal keeper, defensive structure enforcer.



its all about opinions isnt it?
but quetsioning someones technique based on incorrect understanding of what is correct technique is a joke.

next up Gretel Killeen will be judgiung the 10m platfrom dive at the Olympics.

[hausmann]

Speaks volumes to me when I watched the replay of Taggart's goal. Joel spins around with a smile on his face to point to Carney for a superb cross, while Taggart takes his "no emotion" goal celebration to the corner and doesn't even acknowledge Carney. Taggart had a number of opportunities to play assist but he seems so focused on his golden boot that it doesn't matter if his obsession kills the Jets season.

For me, the fullbacks just didn't show up last night. I am sick of saying "F*&*ing Gallaway!". He is so good a killing forward momentum with the wrong pass or coughing up the ball. Unfortunately Brillante didn't offer much on the other side.

Unfortunate that Caravella went off. Kantarovski seemed out of sorts and it ended up with Joel making a tackle in a position he should never have been in.


With the addition of Carney and Griffiths, I believed (and still do) that this team has the quality to go all the way to the grand final. But you can't win a game if your full backs and defensive mid decide not to show up.

[pv4]

To be fair, I've never been trained as a keeper and have barely, if ever, played it.

But I finally got around to watching the freekick, purely to get my own opinion on it so I could judge everyones comments on here.

I blame BK, and think he is at fault. There are no left footers lining up for that freekick, there is genuinely no reason he should have started his positioning that far away from the near post. If a right footer hits it to the far post, the ball trajectory is going from the centre and curling out to the post, and if a keeper dives from the centre out it will follow his body path pretty much. Where BK was standing, he wouldn't have needed to dive to stop any shot towards the far post. Which, in turn, left a mountain of space at the near post for the Glory player to place it into. Yes, the ball was well hit to get over the wall & dip, yes the wall seemed a little further back than normal (do players not creep forward any more ffs - and even the setup was a long way back!) but, just like the ADP freekick, BK basically told the player where to kick it. If BK hadn't learnt it after the ADP freekick, which apparently he didn't, I hope he learns after this one - he has an irrational reliance on his wall, and doesn't actually attempt to "keep" the near post/post that the wall is on. Terrible positioning, and goalkeeping, IMO.

In saying all that, please remember I said I thought he was good in the game. I'm not judging his entire game on just the freekick(s), but I am harshly judging that freekick.

[sammydog]

because he works well with defenders to create a strong defensive unit that opposition teams must work at breaking down. And when they do its from pdefenders getting caught out leaving Keeper stranded - see 2nd goal.

Birraz = Shotstopper, camera keeper.
BK = Goal keeper, defensive structure enforcer.



its all about opinions isnt it?
but quetsioning someones technique based on incorrect understanding of what is correct technique is a joke.

next up Gretel Killeen will be judgiung the 10m platfrom dive at the Olympics.

Opinions, as irrational as they often are, is what drives this place. FFS, the pure hate for BK and blindly blaming him for everything is as messed up as the Bridges hate. There are other players who fall into the same category. What ever they do, everyone turns on them.

And then people wonder why the players don't celebrate with the crowd.

BK was not at fault for either goal last night. Can't help a screaming free kick and a complete defensive cluster **** for the second goal. BK actually pulled off a great save, where is the talk on that?


Speaks volumes to me when I watched the replay of Taggart's goal. Joel spins around with a smile on his face to point to Carney for a superb cross, while Taggart takes his "no emotion" goal celebration to the corner and doesn't even acknowledge Carney. Taggart had a number of opportunities to play assist but he seems so focused on his golden boot that it seems it doesn't matter if his obsession kills the Jets season.

For me, the fullbacks just didn't show up last night. I am sick of saying "F*&*ing Gallaway!". He is so good a killing forward momentum with the wrong pass or coughing up the ball. Unfortunately Brillante didn't offer much on the other side.

Unfortunate that Caravella went off. Kantarovski seemed out of sorts and it ended up with Joel making a tackle in a position he should never have been in.

With the addition of Carney and Griffiths, I believed (and still do) that this team has the quality to go all the way to the grand final. But you can't win a game if your full backs and defensive mid decide not to show up.

I think Joel has come back a lot more of a team player than he was before he left. One of the reasons for me that he needs to be re-signed. Carneys signing didn't excite me too much, I was wrong and wand him back next season.

Taggart on the other hand, starting to shit me. Can't score a one on one to save his life and as hausmann stated, is clearly putting his golden boot aspirations above the team aspirations.

Watched the replay a few times on Joel's tackle. At first glance I thought the free kick was fair. No so convinced anymore. Guess the ref only gets one look though.

[Grimario]

Can you put a replay of Sidnei's tackle up?

[pv4]

blindly blaming him for everything is as messed up as the Bridges hate

And, on the flipside, blindly supporting Bridges and discrediting the evidence & facts is equally as messed up. Would you agree?

[Premy]

I don't understand all this team harmony talk.
FFS their professional footballers its their job, I couldn't give 2 f&#ks if they want to kill each other all they have to do is work together no need to be best mates. I work with people I don't f$#king like but I still go to work and do my job.

[sammydog]

And, on the flipside, blindly supporting Bridges and discrediting the evidence & facts is equally as messed up. Would you agree?

Yes, both extremes are as bad as each other. Some of the supposed "facts" though have been tenuous at best in.

I just don't understand the unreserved hate for some players. BK's game last night was not the pile of steaming turd people would have us believe.

[q-money]

sidnei should have been marched for that shocker but it's irrelevant, they let this one slip in classic jerks fashion

it's a shame griff didn't actually square him up, rather he made a pretty good tackle in the end lel

[pv4]

And, on the flipside, blindly supporting Bridges and discrediting the evidence & facts is equally as messed up. Would you agree?

Yes

Cheers mate

[Premy]

Foz logic!!!

Taggart takes his 2 gifts to make it 2-0 at H/T, but somehow its BK's fault for conceding a cracking freekick.

[MFKS]

Foz logic!!!

Taggart takes his 2 gifts to make it 2-0 at H/T, but somehow its BK's fault for conceding a cracking freekick.

Foz Logic is some would actually like to see the keeper make an effort to keep the ball out of going in the net.

At least with Birrazs **** up he at least tried to more towards the ball and keep it out.


BK on the other hand just watches them fly in rooted to the spot

[q-money]

Foz Logic is some would actually like to see the keeper make an effort to keep the ball out of going in the net.

like i said, a big knee skid is what BK needs in his game regardless of whether he is going to save it or not

[snake]

At least with Birrazs **** up he at least tried to more towards the ball and keep it out.


actually, he dived out of the way of the first ccm goal. :rof:

no really, he did. :rof: :rof:

[plague]

Seriously. Some of you lot on here sometimes (not including you Member because you're batshit all of the time).
The wall is there to protect one side of the goal, the keeper the other.
If someone is good enough to get it up over and down into the goal then it's just a cracking free kick.
If Kennedy stands behind the wall then the other side is open.
By the time he sees the ball he it's essentially on the penalty spot. Oh yeah that's heaps of time to recognise, transfer weight then dive.
Save the faux outrage for when he legit stuffs up.

[joel31]

Play Carney at left back that way Gallaway is out and it allows more balance in midfield. Allow him freedom for overlapping runs

[halo se7en]

Play Carney at left back that way Gallaway is out and it allows more balance in midfield. Allow him freedom for overlapping runs

I thought Carney signing would have put an end to the Gallaway experiment… unfortunately it hasn't. Surely we can cover that side between Carney and Goodwin and Gallaway can watch from the stands with the rest us folk that can't play football.

[joel31]

I thought Carney signing would have put an end to the Gallaway experiment… unfortunately it hasn't. Surely we can cover that side between Carney and Goodwin and Gallaway can watch from the stands with the rest us folk that can't play football.
clearly the Jets see some hidden talent in Gallaway that doesn't exist

[la bazzle]

Everyone was warned of Gallaways rubbish. Stinker

[pv4]

Everyone was warned of Gallaways rubbish. Stinker

We even had an appropriately named thread about it but it was shut down by the system

[MFKS]

Everyone was warned of Gallaways rubbish. Stinker

Thing with this bloke is he actually looks more suited to playing centre defender than anywhere. Attacking wise he has nothing as a left back. He actually cripples attack at times and to me your fullbacks need to be able to contribute in attack more than we do.

Defensively though he does his job reasonably well. May be a better idea to put him at centre half and just have him man marking the opponents striker. Bloke owns Hersi when we play WSW and Gallaway just marks him into the ground

This I reckon he would do quite well at and at least that way you would have Jew to clean up on the occassions Gallaway gets caught out

[MFKS]

Seriously. Some of you lot on here sometimes (not including you Member because you're batshit all of the time).

Thanks Plague for the recognition :yay::sup: I wear it as a badge of honour

[dink]

Play Carney at left back that way Gallaway is out and it allows more balance in midfield. Allow him freedom for overlapping runs

And get Hoole and or Goodwin back on the park. Surely thats a better option then Gallaway.

Anyhoo crap result. Goals wins games and continually missing good chances gives the opposition a chance by staying in the game. Taggart had two great chances and that kept Perth in the game. In saying that Jets should have closed that game out. Very disappointed.

On BK it seems he couldn't see the ball or wasn't watching the guy run in to take the free kick hence why he was grounded on the spot. His wall looked fine and his positioning looked ok. Just didn't move. BK had no anticipation that the ball was going to his left. He should be able to watch the guy running in and addressing the ball to know which way to move. Even if he did move I don't think he would have stopped it. It was a very good free kick. Just looks bad when a keeper is standing still and the balls in the back of the net. BTW I think he did a good job last night except for that free kick.

[la bazzle]

Defensively though he does his job reasonably well. May be a better idea to put him at centre half and just have him man marking the opponents striker.

Wow....