Lee Clark OUT

[joel31]

if ray gatt is correct that's our new boss

He's getting Birmingham relegated from the Championship. He can't be any good

[joel31]

the bloke did alright at Huddersfield though. Was unbeaten for 43 games according to wiki in 2011/12

[furns]

Let me post what was crossposted in the BCFC foz from his time at Huddersfield

This was taken from the Huddersfield supporters forum.


Clark and the sack.

To the uninformed spectator the decision may seem bizarre, however Huddersfield fans have been far from disappointed at the decision, and most actively welcomed it.

Ian Bennett, Gary Naysmith, Damien Johnson, Joey Gudjonsson and Alan Lee all examples of the experience Clark felt necessary. On paper these signings looked to be exactly what the club needed. However as the season progressed it was clear that some of Clark`s signings were over the hill and simply happy to collect one final pay-packet. This left Town with a squad of youngsters and has-beens with very few players at the peak of their footballing ability.

Clark`s tactical shortcomings were not the only thing that annoyed Town fans though.

Clark was never been able to address Huddersfield`s problem area of central midfield, despite a host of signings aimed at addressing the issue.

There was a growing sense of apathy around the club due to the prospect of another season in League One, with empty stadiums and long ball football. Again, Huddersfield were victim to drawing too many games and sacrificing winning positions and there was a growing feeling that this was down to Clark`s tactical shortcomings.

Despite Town still riding high in the table fans were disillusioned with the brand of football they were being made to watch. Fans where struggling to justify the high prices of going to watch football, Huddersfield have simply not played an attractive enough brand of football to warrant extortionately high ticket prices and to watch boring games.

Furthermore Clark`s man-management skills have come under scrutiny and generally been found wanting. Donal McDermott and Anton Robinson had both impressed for Bournemouth, but were never able to show their ability under Clark. Indeed, as the season wore on, it appeared that some players were scared of playing for Lee Clark. This was in part due to Clark`s increasingly strange team selections, which prevented players from gaining confidence. From one week to the next it was as if the selection was random. Players would go from not even being in the squad for months on end to suddenly being plunged into the starting eleven, Danny Cadamarteri for instance. This scattergun policy to selection prevented Huddersfield from gaining any real consistency and confidence, and this is reflected in the quality of football and entertainment towards the end of Clark`s regime.

Lee Clark should be praised for his 100% commitment and enthusiasm to the cause.

The major gripe among Town fans was how much the quality of football has decreased since the beginning of his reign. Though the sacking came as a surprise to many pundits, those who have followed Clark and Huddersfield this season understand the sacking was justified. His comments to the media have made him seem, at times, deluded and desperate.
And the overall impression I am getting from BCFC supporters is he is a poor man manager, plays long ball football and they cant win at home.

GVE Mk2 imo

[GazFish35]

the bloke did alright at Huddersfield though. Was unbeaten for 43 games according to wiki in 2011/12

GVE has never lost a game as Huddersfield boss. Ever.

[Tommyjet]

if ray gatt is correct that's our new boss

He's getting Birmingham relegated from the Championship. He can't be any good
Jee you were quick on this thread. Birmingham are in huge financial trouble because of their owners tax evasion and subsequent gaoling I believe. I know a couple of massive Birmingham city fans who are actually from Birmingham. Club basically going backwards as all owners assets frozen. Lee Clark is on a hiding to nothing ATM

[joel31]

I am willing to give him a chance though to prove my thoughts from looking at his previous performances wrong though

[joel31]

Jee you were quick on this thread. Birmingham are in huge financial trouble because of their owners tax evasion and subsequent gaoling I believe. I know a couple of massive Birmingham city fans who are actually from Birmingham. Club basically going backwards as all owners assists frozen. Lee Clark is on a hiding to nothing ATM
I felt an urge to continue the foz tradition

[joel31]

Also his connection to Bridgey is they played at Sunderland together between 1997 and 1999

[Tommyjet]

I felt an urge to continue the foz tradition

Well within your rights

[Pico]

698


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Clark_%28footballer%29#Career_statistics

Looks like a jets style appointment.... I'm sure he'll be happy to have Bridgey on his bench and that's all that matters.

41% win record, might scrape into the top 6 happy days.

[la bazzle]

Its rubbish anyway, word is Jonesy in advanced talks

[Tommyjet]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say ray gatt was just throwing a name out for fun, at least I'm hoping its another gaffa with a better footballing philosophy.

[hawk]

This left Town with a squad of youngsters and has-beens with very few players at the peak of their footballing ability.
gve may not have made us play long ball but he did leave our squad with this condition. 2'ps ina pod

[Jeterpool]

Happy to give him a chance and will reserve my judgement until I see how he recruits and sets the team out to play.

That's if we sign him.

[hawk]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say ray gatt was just throwing a name out for fun, at least I'm hoping its another gaffa with a better footballing philosophy.

ratt said that Arny was coming here for sure. he's fos

[Thomas477]

To be fair, drawing games is a start over losing games.

[lquiquer]

Even Lawrie McKinna would be a better choice and sure the Jerks would not oppose to him running Gosford....

[stopper2]

No offence to Lee Clark but signing a coach from a club that is getting relegated from the English Championship just does not get me excited one bit.

[GazFish35]

No offence, but I don't think lee clark probably cares what any of us think.

[militiamon]

I'm not the biggest fan of them, but I would take Rudan, Okon, Milicic, Stubbins, Jones, heck probably even Bleiberg over this bloke.

[parksey]

why?

[militiamon]

I don't know if this guy is good, I don't know if those guys are good, but it makes a whole lot more sense to me to bring one of them in than this guy.

[Pico]

I'm not the biggest fan of them, but I would take Rudan, Okon, Milicic, Stubbins, Jones, heck probably even Bleiberg over this bloke.

At least those coaches know the available talent around as and the youth setup, cause we are unlikely to have the cash for experienced players. They are also more likely to understand the sort of constraints that a salary cap will pose to forming a squad in Australia.

Today's herald article looks to rule out most of them though.

[Tommyjet]

Here is some posts from another forum when asked what playing style lee Clark employs:


melbourne_terrace wrote:
tommyjet wrote:
Heard some folks saying he a bit of a hoof ball mentality, anyone confirm his footballing style


It's hard to break away from that mentality in League 1 but he had the team playing good stuff until a few losses against the likes of Charlton athletic and other meant the board started harassing him over a few rare losses and some draws and a loss to swindon in the cup. After that he switched to a 4-5-1 for a while which was pretty dour in all honesty but still got results. Prior to that it was a pretty standard 4-4-1-1 or some times even 4-2-2-2 with advanced wingers and Jordan Rhodes dropping deep getting between the lines and still managing to score 40 goals .



Birmingham is in dire straights. Their owner Carson Yeung was jailed for six years by a Hong Kong court for money laundering earlier this year. Clark has had a tough time at Birmingham to say the least.

At Huddersfield things couldn't have been more different. When Clark first arrived at Huddersfield he promised fast attacking football that would entertain the fans. And this is what he delivered until they lost to a powerful Millwall side in the play offs. After seeing his young team taken apart by a strong team Clark altered his style to a far more pragmatic, less easy on the eye approach, that won points but far less plaudits.

He is a subscriber to prozone, so believes in percentages, and attempts to get his sides playing efficient if not wonderfully attractive football.

[Tommyjet]

Key phrase to me is 'efficient if not wonderfully attractive football.'

For me this is what zane was aiming towards and had us playing in the last few games. Quicker transitioning from defence to attack (without the total need for hoofing it) therefor creating more space for attackers as opposition defence not settled back. Under gve it was the opposite, slow transition and slow ball movement against settled defences

[GazFish35]

I've been keeping rather quiet about who I am, and who I want to be... But that changes now.

I have been quietly toiling away getting my coaching credentials, traveling the world at great expense to broaden my football knowledge, working at clubs where financial prudence is paramount, all the while keeping tabs on local talent and the progression of the aleague.

I'm hoping to one day get a gig in the a-league.


Turns out all I needed to actually do it eat more tapas and be mates with different people.

[Jetmaster]

if ray gatt is correct that's our new boss

He's getting Birmingham relegated from the Championship. He can't be any good

Yeah...the same Ray Gatt who tweeted two weeks ago - "Matter of when, not if, Graham Arnold signing with Jets. Will take his own staff there. Hence clean out at Jets."

The world is full of lemmings.

[sammydog]

It seems to be a race between a few journalists on twitter to be the first to break news. Sure they may break something eventually, but not before a shite load of false stories. Id take it all with a grain of salt.

[stopper2]

It seems to be a race between a few journalists on twitter to be the first to break news. Sure they may break something eventually, but not before a shite load of false stories. Id take it all with a grain of salt.
Agree, one minute we're hearing that the club will be announcing the new coach next week....hence Arnold no longer in the frame.....then we are hearing that this Clark will be getting interviewed in a couple of weeks.
Actually at first when I heard the name Lee Clark I thought it was a pun aimed at the former fitness coach whose name was also Lee Clark LOL

[Jetmaster]

Gatt is reading the foz - his latest tweet....


Jets job down to Either Lee Clark or Phil Stubbins...

Hi Ray !

[Jeterpool]

Listening to Thursday's Guardian Football Weekly Extra:

It has been confirmed that Birmingham's home record this season is the worst home record in football league HISTORY.

18 home games without a win. Birmingham would be 9th if they played only away from home.

Maybe we could beat the Gypos down there for once...

And there you go Gatty.

[GazFish35]

Imagine how well the youth team would do in the nbn.

[Thomas477]

Listening to Thursday's Guardian Football Weekly Extra:

It has been confirmed that Birmingham's home record this season is the worst home record in football league HISTORY.

18 home games without a win. Birmingham would be 9th if they played only away from home.

Maybe we could beat the Gypos down there for once...

And there you go Gatty.

Meets all Middleby's criteria. He's a shoo in.

Actually, Shoe In.

[hawk]

No offence to Lee Clark but signing a coach from a club that is getting relegated from the English Championship just does not get me excited one bit.


No offence, but I don't think lee clark probably cares what any of us think.

no offence....thats one of our problems

[Premy]

Birmingham Staying up Lee Clark might not be going anywhere.

[militiamon]

My understanding is that he probably would have already been sacked were it not for the whole ownership/management crisis.

[Grimario]

My understanding is that he probably would have already been sacked were it not for the whole ownership/management crisis.

Yeah, brum friend of mine says he will be gone once the ownership drama is sorted out. Not sure if that is certain or if it's just his hope but he isn't exactly praising the guy. Says he does great work with young players but that's about it. Described him as "an excitable person playing the game in Football Manager".

[MFKS]

Who started this shit rumour???

Why don't we just go out of our way and poach Kenny Lowe from Perth if we want to be this inept.

The bloke has done little as a Manager and will be a Steve McMahon level failure in this country

[seldom]

Here is some posts from another forum when asked what playing style lee Clark employs:


melbourne_terrace wrote:
tommyjet wrote:
Heard some folks saying he a bit of a hoof ball mentality, anyone confirm his footballing style


It's hard to break away from that mentality in League 1 but he had the team playing good stuff until a few losses against the likes of Charlton athletic and other meant the board started harassing him over a few rare losses and some draws and a loss to swindon in the cup. After that he switched to a 4-5-1 for a while which was pretty dour in all honesty but still got results. Prior to that it was a pretty standard 4-4-1-1 or some times even 4-2-2-2 with advanced wingers and Jordan Rhodes dropping deep getting between the lines and still managing to score 40 goals .



Birmingham is in dire straights. Their owner Carson Yeung was jailed for six years by a Hong Kong court for money laundering earlier this year. Clark has had a tough time at Birmingham to say the least.

At Huddersfield things couldn't have been more different. When Clark first arrived at Huddersfield he promised fast attacking football that would entertain the fans. And this is what he delivered until they lost to a powerful Millwall side in the play offs. After seeing his young team taken apart by a strong team Clark altered his style to a far more pragmatic, less easy on the eye approach, that won points but far less plaudits.

He is a subscriber to prozone, so believes in percentages, and attempts to get his sides playing efficient if not wonderfully attractive football.

So what your sayin is the guy can coach yeah ?

[joel31]

Who started this shit rumour???

Why don't we just go out of our way and poach Kenny Lowe from Perth if we want to be this inept.

The bloke has done little as a Manager and will be a Steve McMahon level failure in this country
the club confirmed he was one of the top 3 candidates

[furns]

seeing as he isnt coming this thread is no longer needed

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