Confirmed: Membership only active areas.

[GazFish35]

Rumours floating that all active areas will be "members only"


This will be shit.


Thanks to the mighty RBB.

[q-money]

no different to how it is now for most clubs

we drank the kool-aid a long time ago

[Superdylan]

Can one explain an active area....is it for the permission use of megaphone, drums, large flags etc?

I suppose there's always the corner terrace or the hill if we ever got ****ed over by the FFA.

[MFKS]

So then they start up these what's stopping anyone forming their own little clique elsewhere in the ground??

Technically they would have to ban Zads Lads or whoever else they are bringing down next year.


The whole thing is a farce.

Everyone should just move from the designated active area find somewhere else and be active there.

What are they going to do???

[belchardo]

So then they start up these what's stopping anyone forming their own little clique elsewhere in the ground??

Technically they would have to ban Zads Lads or whoever else they are bringing down next year.


The whole thing is a farce.

Everyone should just move from the designated active area find somewhere else and be active there.

What are they going to do???

eject you from the stadium
cancel your membership
match bans
stadium bans
socceroos bans
referral to police

just to list a few off the top of my head

[belchardo]

would probably stop casual fans from becoming active fans if you can't go in for a couple of games and work out if you like it.

[q-money]

it's members only now in bay 60, won't change a thing imo

[MFKS]

eject you from the stadium
cancel your membership
match bans
stadium bans
socceroos bans
referral to police

just to list a few off the top of my head

You reckon they are going to-do that to all the active supporters who do it??

Or they just gonna victimise a few from the group??

Or they gonna do nothing.???


Basically they would have to take action on anyone who opens their mouth in the stdium


Anyway just shows how out of touch the dimwits are at the FFA

Of all the things to do to improve the game in the country they are picking a battle they won't win yet have no need to actually fight

[furns]

it's members only now in bay 60, won't change a thing imoIt means no one off tickets in bay 60, and anyone wanting away tickets also have to be active members to buy one.
It will kill growth in bay 60. We spent a great deal of time and effort last season moving to a new area and telling people "We have a new mentality. Come along, try it out and help us grow" now no-one will be able to do that without making the decision to buy a membership for the entire season.

We are aware of this and are liasing with the club, who it must be said are also opposed to these measures. This is an FFA directive.

[q-money]

when was the last time anyone actually checked your ticket though?

[Skirt Boy]

So if you can only get to 1-2 games a season due to other commitments (my photography stops me from going as much as I like for example) I'm basically ****ed if I want to sit in with the boys?

It's ****ing money gauging out of the people who spend money.

[joel31]

So if you can only get to 1-2 games a season due to other commitments (my photography stops me from going as much as I like for example) I'm basically ****ed if I want to sit in with the boys?

It's ****ing money gauging out of the people who spend money.
there is a solution. By a GA ticket and come in. Security let in WSW fans, they will let in Jets fans

[Rocknerd]

article just upp on FFA

FFA's new measures for Active Support areas







The Red Army voice their support for Adelaide United head coach Josep Gombau.






The Red Army voice their support for Adelaide United head coach Josep Gombau.






Monday, 16 June 2014 -
Staff Writer

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Football Federation Australia (FFA) has today announced measures to enhance and protect the unique atmosphere created by active supporters at Hyundai A-League matches.


The Head of Hyundai A-League, Damien de Bohun, said the new protocols would set league-wide standards and were part of a long-term strategy designed to grow membership and deepen fan engagement.

“The atmosphere at Hyundai A-League matches is unique in Australian sport,” said de Bohun.

“You don’t have to go to Europe or South America to experience football passion and see how real supporters get behind their team. It’s on show every week in the A-League.”

The key component of the new measures is a ‘membership only area’ for all “Home Club Active Supporter Areas” for the upcoming Hyundai A-League 2014/15 Season.

This will mean that all fans within the designated “Home Club Active Supporter Areas” will have a valid season membership pass or shorter-term active area pass.

“The connection between active fans and their clubs goes beyond the purchase of a ticket on match day,” said de Bohun.

“We want our fans to have a growing voice in how clubs interact with their supporters and the local community.

“The other advantage of this development is that the club and active supporters will be able to work together to build on the experience of match day and continue to create a safe and family-friendly environment.

FFA has confirmed that the new measures will be linked to enshrining active supporter activities such as playing musical instruments, tifo displays, capo stands and large flags.

“We want fans to be able to create the best atmosphere and in conjunction with clubs and stadium managers we will give the fans certainty over their activities,” said de Bohun.

FFA also announced that there may be additional ticketing measures for “Away Club Active Supporter Areas”, particularly for matches where it is anticipated that there will be a high number of away club active supporters in attendance.

FFA is committed to working with each club to customise solutions based on their individual needs and their respective membership markets to comply with these conditions.

An example of this may include the use of three (3) game membership passes, or members ‘guest’ passes into the respective active supporter area(s) to allow fans to try before they buy into a full membership.

“From our discussions with the various fan groups and other stakeholders around the competition, there is a common desire to see a reduction of the presence of police and security at football matches, in particular around active supporter areas.

“We believe that the successful implementation of these new conditions will go a long way towards reaching that common goal,” concluded de Bohun.

These measures will be effective from the opening round of the Hyundai A-League 2014/15 Season and will be reviewed following the Hyundai A-League 2015 Grand Final.

[stretch]

Horrible decision by FFA. Hopefully something changes between now and when the season kicks off.




We are aware of this and are liasing with the club.

Delete the rest of this.

[BodyNovo]

Terrace time

[Mark325]

Sorry if this is obvious, but is this saying that it's only members in general, or is this saying you have to buy a membership to Bay 60 specifically to get in?

[Blackmac79]

I'll save the captain some time, and its the latter.

On away games, does this mean when we go to the coast we can congregate outside the stadium at the palmtree end and chant from there?

[Pico]

Sorry if this is obvious, but is this saying that it's only members in general, or is this saying you have to buy a membership to Bay 60 specifically to get in?

The way I read it is that you have to purchase a SEASON Ticket in bay 60 to get access, no tickets sold on the day, no having a GA and upgrading a few times a year to join in, you are either all in or all out.

[GazFish35]

The way I read it is that you have to purchase a SEASON Ticket in bay 60 to get access, no tickets sold on the day, no having a GA and upgrading a few times a year to join in, you are either all in or all out.

They do mention "guest passes" and customising for each club........


But it does essentially read that if I have mate who isn't a member he can't get into the active area.

[ToddG NBUnited]

bay 60 is membership'active area' bay 59 is ga, problem sorted.

[Jetmaster]

Sounds like a "security" measure...members can be easily identified if they cause trouble.

Can't see any other reason for it.

[Skirt Boy]

Sounds like a "security" measure...members can be easily identified if they cause trouble.

Can't see any other reason for it.

It's money pure and simple.

People who sit in active areas are more likely to spend money. So make active areas members only and even if people can only get to 2-3 games a year they are still forking out for members...............Thus increasing revenue and bargaining for TV rights.

[furns]

bay 60 is membership'active area' bay 59 is ga, problem sorted.Bay 59 is Silver level mate
No way the Jets will change it to GA unless we fill 60. Which is never going to happen with these measures.

Senior active supporters are discussing these details to form our response both on a Jets level and at an A-League level.
We will post up when we have a clear direction and consensus on this announcement.

[furns]

It's money pure and simple.

People who sit in active areas are more likely to spend money. So make active areas members only and even if people can only get to 2-3 games a year they are still forking out for members...............Thus increasing revenue and bargaining for TV rights.Both are reasons, but the main reason is the one Jetmaster has stated.
Its to crack down on "blowins" that RBB and NTC constantly blame their flares & other incidents on. The incidents will either stop if it is blowins or they continue - they will now have all the details of everyone in the area to allocate blame.

[GazFish35]

It's money pure and simple.

People who sit in active areas are more likely to spend money. So make active areas members only and even if people can only get to 2-3 games a year they are still forking out for members...............Thus increasing revenue and bargaining for TV rights.
People in active areas generally spend less on official merch.

[furns]

People in active areas generally spend less on official merch.Unless you are the RBB - who are against modern football apparently

[GazFish35]

I really love the assumption we are all trouble makers. Why don't they make us wear tracking ankle collars too? I mean if they really were serious about a family friendly atmosphere they would.

[hawk]

there is a solution. By a GA ticket and come in. Security let in WSW fans, they will let in Jets fans

lol secs once let bin laden in.

but there will be a crackdown again now that these sanctions are in just like in 08

[Beeen]

There goes any hope of us southern hillers coming to bay 60.

[Blackmac79]

There goes any hope of us southern hillers coming to bay 60.

It's ok. Don't come to us, we will come to you.

[Grimario]

Well, that's me done. Definitely won't be part of the squadron this season.

[furns]

As usual - Simon Hill stating the case against perfectly
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/aleague-could-take-a-lesson-from-world-cup-fandom-before-implementing-active-zones-plan/story-fnkjl6g2-1226957017790

[furns]

At the very least, I would call for all supporters who think this is a bad idea to hold off buying/renewing memberships until this issue has been sorted.
And I would like to state publicly for the record, the Jets are firmly against this idea. However, as the FFA have mandated this as effectively "law", they have to abide by it as a condition of their licence to participate in the HAL.

It is especially disheartening considering the work that the Squadron FSC committee has put in since the start of last season with the Jets, Police and Stadium to improve the whole active support experience and reputation to make it something that will attract new people and grow the area.

[NUGUNS]

Went to Charlton v Blackpool last year and sat with the Blackpool supporters.

The part of the stadium that we were in had security and police blocking all access to the rest of the stadium, you went in one way and out the same way.

On entrance I was patted down twice and segregation of fans outside the stadium start a few hundred metres down the road.

While I admit this was overkill it prevented circumstances of outsiders entering the opposing team supporter group and causing a ruckess.


It seems to be a few bad eggs ruin it for the rest.

[Jetmaster]

I know it means putting some guys slightly out of pocket, but why not all purchase tickets for the first game in GA on the hill in protest.....and leave Bay 60 empty?

[Thomas477]

I know it means putting some guys slightly out of pocket, but why not all purchase tickets for the first game in GA on the hill in protest.....and leave Bay 60 empty?

If you could do that across the whole of the league, it would send a message. No point only a few groups doing it, needs to be everyone, including the scum from Gosford (not that anyone could tell they were empty any way)

[Blackmac79]

Membership renewal came in the mail today. Going to call in the morning to cancel my bay60 membership.

[GazFish35]

I rang and spoke to brook. She was great.
Clubs hands really are tied by FFA dickheads.

They do appear to be working on some ways to sell tickets within the guidelines, but that will still allow growth.



Can't see them working though, not in newy. We need to have a set up where the numbers in the bays not only fluctuate week to week, but during the game.

[Blackmac79]

You cancel your bay60 gav?