Best Jets Lineup for Season 14/15

[sneaky]

My suggestion

Birraz
nev.........madaschi/regs...Kew.......Carney
.............celeski............kanta.............
griff.................flores................steele
.......................jeronimo..................

[Grimario]

Unless Kanta sorts himself out, I don't think he is in the starting line up at all.

Steele on the left of the midfield 3, Montano up front with Jeronimo and Griff as wide forwards.

[Premy]

----------------------BK-----------------------
Scotty---Kew---Taylor-Madaschi
Hoole--------Steele-----------Carney
-----------------Flores-----------------------
-------Griff-----------Neumann----------

[Mark325]

4-4-2 Diamond

----------------------Birraz------------------
Neville---Kew---Madaschi---Carney----------
---------------------Kanta------------------
--------Celeski---------------Steele--------
-----------------Flores-----------------------
-------Griff-----------Neumann-----

Subs: Kennedy, Regan, Hoole, Goodwin, Montano

[Grimario]

If we've signed Montano and aren't starting him, Stubbins needs to be taken out back and shot.


Phasers Set To Not
3pointO - Aliens - Mad Ascii - Bon's Missus Fling
Blagoja - Polo - Jonny Steele (so cool he doesn't need a nickname)
Griff - Hannah - Hello, Newman

[MFKS]

Playing 3 at the back

3-5-2 hoole and goowin have the engines to play wing back so lets go for it


----------------------birraz---------------------------

-----------jaliens--- reagan---- madaschi--------

hoole----------------------------------goodwin

-----------celevski-carney- flores--------------

--------------griffo-montana----------------------

bench

neville steele kanta geronimo solari



gallagay sacked
gallashit sacked

[Jetmaster]

Whenever we play three at the back it turns ugly....remember Topor being brutally exposed against the Griff laden Beijing?

[q-money]

it's always an unmitigated disaster, we are simply not technically good enough, fit enough or smart enough to play three at the back

if big phil can pull it off i will eat hammas beard

[Bon]

if big phil can pull it off i will eat hammas beard

:lulzturtle:

[Premy]

Playing 3 at the back

3-5-2 hoole and goowin have the engines to play wing back so lets go for it


----------------------birraz---------------------------

-----------jaliens--- reagan---- madaschi--------

hoole----------------------------------goodwin

-----------celevski-carney- flores--------------

--------------griffo-montana----------------------

bench

neville steele kanta geronimo solari



gallagay sacked
gallashit sacked

Actually don't mind the look of that, I wonder if Scotty can cross with his left. Would be tempted to try 3.0 on the left wing rather than see RowZZ get the best service in the league from goodwin.

[q-money]

who's going to do the work in mfkc's zdenek zeman mega goalz formation

we will get dog-fingered in the midfield

[MFKS]

who's going to do the work in mfkc's zdenek zeman mega goalz formation

we will get dog-fingered in the midfield

We get dog fingered on the scoreboard and the League table anyway so why does it matter???:rof:

[GazFish35]

----------------------BK-----------------------
Scotty---Kew---Taylor-Madaschi
Hoole--------Steele-----------Carney
-----------------Flores-----------------------
-------Griff-----------Neumann----------

this for game 1 then replace BK with Birraz after the derby

[MFKS]

this for game 1 then replace BK with Birraz after the derby???

Intrigued.

Why drop BK after the derby??

[parksey]

--------------------birraz
neville------kew-----madaschi-----carney
------------celeski-----steele
--------------------flores
--------griff-------------------jeronimo
------------------montero

[Grimario]

If we've signed Montano and aren't starting him, Stubbins needs to be taken out back and shot.

Phasers Set To Not
3pointO - Aliens - Mad Ascii - Bon's Missus Fling
Blagoja - Polo - Jonny Steele (so cool he doesn't need a nickname)
Griff - Hannah - Hello, Newman

--------------------birraz
neville------kew-----madaschi-----carney
------------celeski-----steele
--------------------flores
--------griff-------------------jeronimo
------------------montero


My lineup has been endorsed by parksey. This makes me happy.

[leftrightout]

--------------------birraz
neville------kew-----madaschi-----carney
------------celeski-----steele
--------------------flores
--------griff-------------------jeronimo
------------------montero

Yeh, like the look of this. That front 4 with carney and neville getting forward, we might do alright!

[Jeterpool]

--------------------birraz
neville------kew-----madaschi-----carney
------------celeski-----steele
--------------------flores
--------griff-------------------jeronimo
------------------montero




My lineup has been endorsed by parksey. This makes me happy.


Yeh, like the look of this. That front 4 with carney and neville getting forward, we might do alright!

+1 more endorsement.

[furns]

Stop putting Carney at LB ffs
He has been shit whenever he was put there for club or socceroos. Play him on the lift wing where he is actually good.

[Grimario]

Stop putting Carney at LB ffs
He has been shit whenever he was put there for club or socceroos. Play him on the lift wing where he is actually good.

Cool, let's put Sam The Liability Gallaway, Craig GVE Ruined Me Goodwin or Sam Too Shit For Indonesia Gallagher there instead....

[Premy]

Cool, let's put Sam The Liability Gallaway, Craig GVE Ruined Me Goodwin or Sam Too Shit For Indonesia Gallagher there instead....
What about Madaschi?

[Jeterpool]

What about Madaschi?

That depends on what Stubbins expects from his fullbacks. If he expects them to play high up the field and be involved in the attack, I'm not sure if that's our best option. I'm willing to be proven wrong because I've never focused on watching madaschi play much. Does he have the pace to push forward and track back for 70+ minutes?

[Grimario]

If we are playing Madaschi at left back, god help us all.

[MFKS]

So I put down my side and INTENTIONALLY fail to put BK in there at ALL.

Thought I would get some response from the BK fapping fanbois but no everyone else is too focussed on 3 at the back to see it :rof:

[The Postman]

----------BK/Biraz----------
Neville Mads Kew Goodwin
-------Celeski Steele-------
----Griff Flores Carney-----
---------Jeronimo-----------

Pretty much gets our Best 11 players on the pitch, can make the case for Reegs and Kanta in there also, but with those 2 and Hannah on the bench we would have good cover for almost every spot.

[Pier67]

Playing 3 at the back

3-5-2 hoole and goowin have the engines to play wing back so lets go for it


----------------------birraz---------------------------

-----------jaliens--- reagan---- madaschi--------

hoole----------------------------------goodwin

-----------celevski-carney- flores--------------

--------------griffo-montana----------------------

bench

neville steele kanta geronimo solari



gallagay sacked
gallashit sacked

This makes good sense, except for Goodwin, he won't play unless we get injuries

[Thomas477]

And MFKS, since when has carney been a ****ing centre attacking mid? Swap Carney and Flores and it's fine, bar Celeski, chuck geroooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnimo in there instead.

[stopper2]

All of the above are good line-ups with some interesting takes on what is our best formation. I think most people will agree with me that our key players this season will be Jaliens, Celeski, Flores, Jeronimo and Griffo. If these 5 can stay fit and healthy for the majority of the season I can't see why we can't finish in the top half as we have in my opinion our best balanced squad since we won the GF back in '08. With other experienced heads like Carney and Steele balanced with the youth and exuberance of Hoole and Goodwin providing great support.

[Jeterpool]

All of the above are good line-ups with some interesting takes on what is our best formation. I think most people will agree with me that our key players this season will be Jaliens, Celeski, Flores, Jeronimo and Griffo. If these 5 can stay fit and healthy for the majority of the season I can't see why we can't finish in the top half as we have in my opinion our best balanced squad since we won the GF back in '08. With other experienced heads like Carney and Steele balanced with the youth and exuberance of Hoole and Goodwin providing great support.

Great post

[Pier67]

Goodwin won't be in calculations now, thank god

[MFKS]

Goodwin won't be in calculations now, thank god

Yeah but now that means that Gallaway has firmed in as a favourite to play:sigh:

[Mark325]

Playing 3 at the back

3-5-2 hoole and goowin have the engines to play wing back so lets go for it


----------------------birraz---------------------------

-----------jaliens--- reagan---- madaschi--------

hoole----------------------------------goodwin

-----------celevski-carney- flores--------------

--------------griffo-montana----------------------

bench

neville steele kanta geronimo solari



gallagay sacked
gallashit sacked


Yeah but now that means that Gallaway has firmed in as a favourite to play:sigh:

Your squad, minus goodwin could still work out with some re-shuffling quite easily honestly.
Option 1 is to test either Hoole or Neville on the left side, more likely Neville.
Option 2, apparently Steele used to dabble in the LB's so you could chuck him at the backs.
Option 3, you swap Flores and Carney, put Carney in LB and move Steele into that position.

Either way you still have pretty close to the squad you intended, which looks quite good honestly.

[MFKS]

Your squad, minus goodwin could still work out with some re-shuffling quite easily honestly.
Option 1 is to test either Hoole or Neville on the left side, more likely Neville.
Option 2, apparently Steele used to dabble in the LB's so you could chuck him at the backs.
Option 3, you swap Flores and Carney, put Carney in LB and move Steele into that position.

Either way you still have pretty close to the squad you intended, which looks quite good honestly.

Carney does not have the engine to play as a wing back

Add in the bloke defensively is piss poor and we would be better off putting him in an attacking role.

As for my side Goodwins removal has ****ed it as an option as we don't now have a serious option on the left side to play 90 mins getting up and back.

Back to the drawing board

[Mark325]

Carney does not have the engine to play as a wing back

Add in the bloke defensively is piss poor and we would be better off putting him in an attacking role.

As for my side Goodwins removal has ****ed it as an option as we don't now have a serious option on the left side to play 90 mins getting up and back.

Back to the drawing board

Option 2 and 3 aren't great, I personally feel that if Neville or Hoole could cross with their left they would be better then most any of our players on the left side that can play LB

[MFKS]

Option 2 and 3 aren't great, I personally feel that if Neville or Hoole could cross with their left they would be better then most any of our players on the left side that can play LB

Neville struggled to cross with his right most weeks in his first season here.

[Mark325]

Neville struggled to cross with his right most weeks in his first season here.

Performed well in his small amount of time playing last season, plus even if we weren't playing a 5-3-2 you take into consideration the quality of our left backs
Carney (better attacking)
Steele (Better attacking)
Gallaway (Shit)
Gallagher (Shit)

Knowing one of those 4 are in consideration for our starting 11 LB, I would say the smart play would be to try out Neville or Hoole on the left side with the other being our RB.

[plague]

----------------------birraz---------------------------

-----------jaliens--- reagan---- madaschi--------

hoole----------------------------------goodwin

-----------celevski-carney- flores--------------

--------------griffo-montana----------------------

bench

neville steele kanta geronimo solari


Oh, don't you go thinking I didn't see that Member.
Well played sir.


By the way how's he going in youth?{insert shitkhunt emoticon here}

[The Postman]

So barring injury it seems we are a 4-2-3-1 once again.

GK - Biraz / BK
RB - Nev / Hoole
CB - Kew / Reegs / Walsh
CB - Mads / Gallagher
LB - Carney / Gallaway
CM - Kanta / Pepper
CM - Celeski
RAM - Griff / Chilli
CAM - Flores / Coops / Barresi
LAM - Steele / Lundy
ST - Jeronimo / Hannah

Still a big hole at CM next to Celeski, hopefully out of the players they are talking to there is a CM among them.

[Premy]

So barring injury it seems we are a 4-2-3-1 once again.

GK - Biraz / BK
RB - Nev / Hoole
CB - Kew / Reegs / Walsh
CB - Mads / Gallagher
LB - Carney / Gallaway
CM - Kanta / Pepper
CM - Celeski
RAM - Griff / Chilli
CAM - Flores / Coops / Barresi
LAM - Steele / Lundy
ST - Jeronimo / Hannah

Still a big hole at CM next to Celeski, hopefully out of the players they are talking to there is a CM among them.
Think you'll find that front 3 will have a lot of movement in it, Jeronimo will regularly show up on the left battling Steele for his position and probably play CAM in Flores absence, Griff will stake his claim to play at the point or along side Montano/Jeronimo and Hoole will be pushing to play further up the park.

[Mark325]

So barring injury it seems we are a 4-2-3-1 once again.

GK - Biraz / BK
RB - Nev / Hoole
CB - Kew / Reegs / Walsh
CB - Mads / Gallagher
LB - Carney / Gallaway
CM - Kanta / Pepper
CM - Celeski
RAM - Griff / Chilli
CAM - Flores / Coops / Barresi
LAM - Steele / Lundy
ST - Jeronimo / Hannah

Still a big hole at CM next to Celeski, hopefully out of the players they are talking to there is a CM among them.

It's a solid team but personally I think a 4-4-2 or -4-3-1-2 would look better personally.

GK - Birraz
RB - Nev
CB - Kew
CB - Gallagher
LB - Carney
RM - Celeski
CM - Hoole
LM - Steele
CAM - Flores
ST - Griff
ST - Montano

Subs: Kennedy, Madaschi, Pepper/Kanta, Virgili, Jeronimo

[joel31]

It's a solid team but personally I think a 4-4-2 or -4-3-1-2 would look better personally.

GK - Birraz
RB - Nev
CB - Kew
CB - Gallagher
LB - Carney
RM - Celeski
CM - Hoole
LM - Steele
CAM - Flores
ST - Griff
ST - Montano

Subs: Kennedy, Madaschi, Pepper/Kanta, Virgili, Jeronimo
why hoole in the centre and celeski out wide?

[leftrightout]

4-3-1-2 would work better to start with because of our player issues. This way you really only need one natural central midfielder and Flores sitting in front.

[pv4]

---------------Biraz---------------
Neville--Madaschi--Kew--Carney
--------Celeski----Steele---------
Griff---------Flores-------Jeronimo
--------------Montano--------------

[Jeterpool]

---------------Biraz---------------
Neville--Madaschi--Kew--Carney
--------Celeski----Steele---------
Griff---------Flores-------Jeronimo
--------------Montano--------------

With Pepper starting for Celeski round 1, yes. That wouldn't leave a great bench for impact.

[Grimario]

With Pepper starting for Celeski round 1, yes. That wouldn't leave a great bench for impact.

I think the secret to football is winning games before you have to go to your bench for impact.

We're wooden spoon favourite, surely?

[MFKS]

We're wooden spoon favourite, surely?
Anyone who thinks other wise is in some massive de nile

[Jeterpool]

I think the secret to football is winning games before you have to go to your bench for impact.

We're wooden spoon favourite, surely?

Not necessarily but I understand where you are coming from. It's a squad game and we use 14 players per match 95% of the time. We need something off the bench and we are looking alright if/when we can get over our injuries.

[pv4]

Not necessarily but I understand where you are coming from. It's a squad game and we use 14 players per match 95% of the time. We need something off the bench and we are looking alright if/when we can get over our injuries.

Hence why it makes no sense to play Regan in the starting lineup.

Firstly, he's bench quality at best for any position.

Secondly, he could fill in across the entire backline plus CM/CDM at a pinch.

Why we would waste such a potentially vital substitute (particularly when both Mads and Kew have been sidelined at some point in preseason due to injury) to a starting position that is so vital, and he be so far very underwhelming in, when we could play similar to my proposed lineup but with Peppz replacing the injured Celeski, makes zero sense to me.

[joel31]

Please no Reegz in midfield, hes not good enough technically to play there

[Mark325]

I would assume it's not his prefered position but has Kanta ever played as a RB or CB?

[Grimario]

I would assume it's not his prefered position but has Kanta ever played as a RB or CB?

Kanta played CB in his first year.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Kanta played CB in his first year.

and was much better there than he is in midfield.

[Premy]

Anyone who thinks other wise is in some massive de nile
I prefer de cockle creek

[hausmann]

Personally, I'm quite excited by the attacking options we have assembled this season. Should be some entertainment up front if they can get the ball.

The main thing that concerned me from the (very limited) footage I've seen of the pre-season was how they got the ball through midfield. It seemed that whenever a Jets player got the ball close to the sideline 10m either side of halfway they were very isolated, sometimes because the ball got there before the support players and sometimes because almost everyone was going forward and away from the person with the ball. These are those tiki taka situations where you like to see a team play through midfield in triangles. CCM were doing it well in Mudgee against us and looked so much more patient and composed in bringing the ball out.

With Sydney FC getting their act together under Arnold and Melbourne City getting an makeover we have two further rivals who were quite ordinary last season but have upped their professionalism, I think it will be another lean season if Stubbins can't get them working as a cohesive unit. But at least I think it will be entertaining.

[borat]

Hence why it makes no sense to play Regan in the starting lineup.

Firstly, he's bench quality at best for any position.

Secondly, he could fill in across the entire backline plus CM/CDM at a pinch.

Why we would waste such a potentially vital substitute (particularly when both Mads and Kew have been sidelined at some point in preseason due to injury) to a starting position that is so vital, and he be so far very underwhelming in, when we could play similar to my proposed lineup but with Peppz replacing the injured Celeski, makes zero sense to me.
So not having seen the last couple of pre-season games, I am assuming that to play 2 CDMs we are playing a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 formation?

Judging by the players we signed/let go I would think Stubbins initially wanted to play a midfield diamond with 1 CDM but has since realised we don't have the cattle to pull this off defensively so has now reverted to 2 x CDMs.

Plus if Stubbins is committed to playing Flores at CAM I can understand the logic behind 2 x CDMs. It's only that we are already short in this position combined with injuries = Regan at CDM.

[Grimario]

So... we don't have the cattle for a midfield diamond... but we don't have the cattle for two CDM either, yet we are going to opt for that?

Honestly, does Stubbins know what he is doing? So far, most signs point to no.

[Tommyjet]

Long ball, avoid midfield. Play a 7-0-3, long balls for edson to bring down for griff and jeronimo

[Grimario]

People will agree that I am an optimistic guy... :lulz:

But I have never been more pessimistic going into a new season than I am for this one.

[Bon]

People will agree that I am an optimistic guy... :lulz:

But I have never been more pessimistic going into a new season than I am for this one.

I think it might be the glimmer of hope that we seemed to have about 2 months ago, when everything appeared to be going in the right direction..
Now we are back on track for the absolute joke that has become all too familiar over the years..

When is Parkesy going to save us?

[Grimario]

Everything going smoothly, getting our recruitment done early. Sign a few promising players, some quality where we have lacked it in the past.

Then publically go on about signing a player who would be a coup, miss out on him and instead sign a guy who goes in for surgery right after signing for us. Also throw in the loss of a former hugely promising left winger/wingback who was pretty much destroyed by the previous manager leaving us horribly under strength at leftback (gallaway, ffs).

We're just a complete ****ing shambles of a club. Disgraceful.

[borat]

So... we don't have the cattle for a midfield diamond... but we don't have the cattle for two CDM either, yet we are going to opt for that?

Honestly, does Stubbins know what he is doing? So far, most signs point to no.
We don't have the cattle for a midfield diamond, not in numbers but in quality. A singular CDM will need to be a workhorse to screen an unfit Flores and a magician to direct the play under pressure as the surrounding players just aren't good enough at the moment compared to our opposition. Look at how we were repeatedly over run in Townsville.

So once you make the decision to change shape and go with 2 CDMs our depth is lacking in that position.

Both our first choice CDMs have been injured all preseason, that rarely ever happens and we are signing another which will leave Regan as 5th choice.

Signing an unfit Celeski was clearly a mistake unless he miraculously injured himself in the first week of training.

[Grimario]

We don't have the cattle for a midfield diamond, not in numbers but in quality. A singular CDM will need to be a workhorse to screen an unfit Flores and a magician to direct the play under pressure as the surrounding players just aren't good enough at the moment compared to our opposition. Look at how we were repeatedly over run in Townsville.

So once you make the decision to change shape and go with 2 CDMs our depth is lacking in that position.

Both our first choice CDMs have been injured all preseason, that rarely ever happens and we are signing another which will leave Regan as 5th choice.

Signing an unfit Celeski was clearly a mistake unless he miraculously injured himself in the first week of training.

So... our players are too shit to play one CDM but just the right level of shit to stink up the field with two of them?

Like I said, shambles of a club.

[Mark325]

I personally still do believe that we could pull out at the least a top 6 finish this year.
Up front we have Griff who is a former golden boot, Jeronimo who netted shitloads at Adelaide despite being used mostly as an impact player and from what we've seen of Montano once he gets some better conditioning he could very well be the same.
In the mids we have Flores as attacking mid, established players like Steele, Celeski and possibly Carney, both quality, young guns like Pepper and Hoole who when in their right positions are some of the better young guys in the league and if they sort out their consistency issues I do believe that both Kanta and Virgili can bring a lot to the table.
In the backs we have Neville who I personally rate quite highly at RB, with guys like Hoole and Pepper to cover, Jaliens and a combination of Madaschi/Regan/Gallagher all three of which I think are at the very least capable, with LB being the only position in the whole team that's iffy.
Finally in goals we've got Birraz, who when on is one of the best keepers in the league.

[Tommyjet]

Anyone know what the jets have said in regards to how long celeski is out?

[Premy]

Anyone know what the jets have said in regards to how long celeski is out?

4-6 weeks

[joel31]

I personally still do believe that we could pull out at the least a top 6 finish this year.
Up front we have Griff who is a former golden boot, Jeronimo who netted shitloads at Adelaide despite being used mostly as an impact player and from what we've seen of Montano once he gets some better conditioning he could very well be the same.
In the mids we have Flores as attacking mid, established players like Steele, Celeski and possibly Carney, both quality, young guns like Pepper and Hoole who when in their right positions are some of the better young guys in the league and if they sort out their consistency issues I do believe that both Kanta and Virgili can bring a lot to the table.
In the backs we have Neville who I personally rate quite highly at RB, with guys like Hoole and Pepper to cover, Jaliens and a combination of Madaschi/Regan/Gallagher all three of which I think are at the very least capable, with LB being the only position in the whole team that's iffy.
Finally in goals we've got Birraz, who when on is one of the best keepers in the league.
We might score a fair amount but I get the feeling we will concede even more

We will finish 7th again

[borat]

So... our players are too shit to play one CDM but just the right level of shit to stink up the field with two of them?

Like I said, shambles of a club.

We have an attacking lineup that requires 2 CDMs to screen. The concept is not that revolutionary.

How Stubbins has come to that conclusion has been messy to watch. But conversely he could have just kept all the existing players and just blamed GVE & Zane all year.

[MFKS]

I personally still do believe that we could pull out at the least a top 6 finish this year.
Up front we have Griff who is a former golden boot, Jeronimo who netted shitloads at Adelaide despite being used mostly as an impact player and from what we've seen of Montano once he gets some better conditioning he could very well be the same.
In the mids we have Flores as attacking mid, established players like Steele, Celeski and possibly Carney, both quality, young guns like Pepper and Hoole who when in their right positions are some of the better young guys in the league and if they sort out their consistency issues I do believe that both Kanta and Virgili can bring a lot to the table.
In the backs we have Neville who I personally rate quite highly at RB, with guys like Hoole and Pepper to cover, Jaliens and a combination of Madaschi/Regan/Gallagher all three of which I think are at the very least capable, with LB being the only position in the whole team that's iffy.
Finally in goals we've got Birraz, who when on is one of the best keepers in the league.

I could right a counter argument as to why we will finish with the spoon as we are shit.

I won't and will let you enjoy the happy pills you are on.


I am not gonna be disappointed with my club this season.

You on the other hand may well be

[hausmann]

All will be well. We've got the Griff.

[borat]

I see no reason to be any less optimistic about the season ahead when we signed this squad.

The facts are we signed Flores to create the chances for Griff & Jeronimo knowing he would be injured for all the preseason. Then we panic because the team isn't creating anything.

It's likely to get worse still playing away for the first 4 games.

If we had an owner who gave a toss at how this club is run then maybe we wouldn't have to gamble on injured players coming good.

[joel31]

Mark, I was once optimistic about Jets results like you and then I joined nf.net

[MFKS]

Mark, I was once optimistic about Jets results like you and then I joined nf.net

its got nothing to do with joining here.

Go watch the side play regularly and they suck the optimism out of you.

They can beat the best side in the League one day and then lose for 1 month straight against shit sides.

Look at last years results
3 from 3 V Roar
Wins away against Victree and Wankerers

All great efforts

Yet can't beat Perth/Sydney once FFS

Lets not even mention how well they aimed up in the F3 Derbys either

[furns]

You miserable bastards know GVE is gone right?
People wonder why newbies don't hang around ffs

[MFKS]

You miserable bastards know GVE is gone right?
People wonder why newbies don't hang around ffs

No he hasn't. He may not be ****ing our first team up at present but he does have a big influence on who may line up in our first team one day.

On another note Furns when can I start the Stubbins Out thread???
I get the feeling there may be a few keen to join the cause soon!!!!

[GazFish35]

I personally still do believe that we could pull out at the least a top 6 finish this year.
Up front we have Griff who is a former golden boot, Jeronimo who netted shitloads at Adelaide despite being used mostly as an impact player and from what we've seen of Montano once he gets some better conditioning he could very well be the same.
In the mids we have Flores as attacking mid, established players like Steele, Celeski and possibly Carney, both quality, young guns like Pepper and Hoole who when in their right positions are some of the better young guys in the league and if they sort out their consistency issues I do believe that both Kanta and Virgili can bring a lot to the table.
In the backs we have Neville who I personally rate quite highly at RB, with guys like Hoole and Pepper to cover, Jaliens and a combination of Madaschi/Regan/Gallagher all three of which I think are at the very least capable, with LB being the only position in the whole team that's iffy.
Finally in goals we've got Birraz, who when on is one of the best keepers in the league.

I'm with you.
We can nab 6th

[Tommyjet]

You miserable bastards know GVE is gone right?
People wonder why newbies don't hang around ffs

Speaking of that wanker. My wife was speaking to jobe's aunty the other day and she confirmed jobe was forced out of the club by gve. She said jobe was basically bullied until he lost the passion to play anymore. Now that wanker is in charge of bringing through the next generation of jets. No wonder optimism is at an all time low.

[MFKS]

Speaking of that wanker. My wife was speaking to jobe's aunty the other day and she confirmed jobe was forced out of the club by gve. She said jobe was basically bullied until he lost the passion to play anymore. Now that wanker is in charge of bringing through the next generation of jets. No wonder optimism is at an all time low.
I could tell you a few stories about some of the kids playing EJ. I will leave it alone though.

All I will say is he isn't in attendance for all their training sessions games and for some reason they are much happier when he ain't there!!!!

[joel31]

I could tell you a few stories about some of the kids playing EJ. I will leave it alone though.

All I will say is he isn't in attendance for all their training sessions games and for some reason they are much happier when he ain't there!!!!
tell us these stories

[furns]

Don't bother. Much like the local forum, there will be no passing off rumors and chinese whispers as fact.

[GazFish35]

Don't bother. Much like the local forum, there will be no passing off rumors and chinese whispers as fact.

You haven't been in the local forum for a while have you?

[Mark325]

I could right a counter argument as to why we will finish with the spoon as we are shit.

I won't and will let you enjoy the happy pills you are on.


I am not gonna be disappointed with my club this season.

You on the other hand may well be

Trust me, I can definitely see the other possible outcome of this season which is us getting our asses handed to us on a mostly regular basis minus the odd occasional game. Not to be a dick, because I do understand where you are coming from on this and I can understand being what I assume is older then me (I'm 18 if that helps) and having been through many more seasons with this club that actually feeling optimistic could be difficult, but for my money that gives you no real right to be a ****. Like I get it, you're shtick is to be an irritating prick who feels the need to mostly, not always but mostly shit on everything and everyone. Credit to you, sometimes I completely agree with you, as do others on here I'm sure, but the those times are outweighed by the increasing amount of times you're an asshole. Apologies, but it is irritating and I understand this is a forum where opinions are meant to go, but sometimes you'd be better keeping it to yourself.


Mark, I was once optimistic about Jets results like you and then I joined nf.net

The guys on here will never drain my optimism. My favorite band is linkin park, if I were to join a forum and read a load of reviews for their newest album saying it was the worst album ever made, I would still have optimism about it and look forward to it. May sound like I'm trying to be overly positive on a season that in the eyes of most is over before it's started but I see no reason to, with the mentality some of you have it suprises me that you actually have the energy to come on here, bitch about most every aspect of the club yet still go to the games or watch them or even follow the club in any way.

[plague]

My favorite band is linkin park,

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/vutsov-dance.gif

[GazFish35]

for my money that gives you no real right to be a ****. Like I get it, you're shtick is to be an irritating prick who feels the need to mostly, not always but mostly shit on everything and everyone. Credit to you, sometimes I completely agree with you, as do others on here I'm sure, but the those times are outweighed by the increasing amount of times you're an asshole. Apologies, but it is irritating and I understand this is a forum where opinions are meant to go, but sometimes you'd be better keeping it to yourself.

http://cdn.meme.li/i/ev2h7.jpg

[Mark325]

with the mentality some of you have it suprises me that you actually have the energy to come on here, bitch about most every aspect of the club yet still go to the games or watch them or even follow the club in any way.

Can I just say, don't take that line out of context. I truly do respect all of you guys on here who keep this thing running, who are the reason I actually do contribute on here even if my opinion is terrible sometimes and the reason I go to every home game and make the NSW away trips. Don't take that as a shot or me being disrespectful to you guys who are the reason this is all here.

[Jeterpool]

The guys on here will never drain my optimism. My favorite band is linkin park, if I were to join a forum and read a load of reviews for their newest album saying it was the worst album ever made, I would still have optimism about it and look forward to it. May sound like I'm trying to be overly positive on a season that in the eyes of most is over before it's started but I see no reason to, with the mentality some of you have it suprises me that you actually have the energy to come on here, bitch about most every aspect of the club yet still go to the games or watch them or even follow the club in any way.

I'm actually with you Mark. I am more optimistic this season than I have been for probably 3 years. We have a better balance of youth and experience. We have some good quality players that have played for Australia and other international teams. We have a proper #10!!!

Yeah we wanted to get Paartalu but we didn't. Sometimes you simply can't compete with the offers. I think that had Melbourne City lured Frank Lampard here we would have got Paartalu.

If we fail to make the top 6 again, I will be very disappointed but I'll pick myself up for the next season again. But we have to be realistic - we have been the least successful side over the last 4 season.

Game 1 is going to be a big marker for the season. I want to see how Stubbins and these boys get fired up for the derby at a place where we haven't won since season 2 (if I remember my stats correctly).

[pv4]

You miserable bastards know GVE is gone right?
People wonder why newbies don't hang around ffs

Who wonders this? You keep bringing it up, but I am yet to see anyone talk about it otherwise.

If the team is performing shit, like it has for the best part of 6 years now, there's not too much to talk about. The newbies you're referring to probably come here to say "man, that was diabolical tonight. Bridges turned over the ball 100 times and Virgili doesn't even look interested in contributing" but they find that 2 or 3 of the regulars on here have already said it, and they needn't say any more.

I know a lot of people who read the posts on this forum but don't contribute because there's nothing new they can actually bring to the table - because we're so bad.

If we're all happy and optimistic, the foz seems like a giant wankfest that puts people off. If we're miserable so and so's, that puts people off.

And tbth - if the newbies you're referring to are one of the 107 people on the Jerks facebook who always like the comment saying "omg we should organise a day to get Bridgey in a quiet room and we'll all give him a gobbie" then I'm genuinely glad that they're not hanging around.

[MFKS]

Trust me, I can definitely see the other possible outcome of this season which is us getting our asses handed to us on a mostly regular basis minus the odd occasional game. Not to be a dick, because I do understand where you are coming from on this and I can understand being what I assume is older then me (I'm 18 if that helps) and having been through many more seasons with this club that actually feeling optimistic could be difficult, but for my money that gives you no real right to be a ****. Like I get it, you're shtick is to be an irritating prick who feels the need to mostly, not always but mostly shit on everything and everyone. Credit to you, sometimes I completely agree with you, as do others on here I'm sure, but the those times are outweighed by the increasing amount of times you're an asshole. Apologies, but it is irritating and I understand this is a forum where opinions are meant to go, but sometimes you'd be better keeping it to yourself.



The guys on here will never drain my optimism. My favorite band is linkin park, if I were to join a forum and read a load of reviews for their newest album saying it was the worst album ever made, I would still have optimism about it and look forward to it. May sound like I'm trying to be overly positive on a season that in the eyes of most is over before it's started but I see no reason to, with the mentality some of you have it suprises me that you actually have the energy to come on here, bitch about most every aspect of the club yet still go to the games or watch them or even follow the club in any way.


Can I just say, don't take that line out of context. I truly do respect all of you guys on here who keep this thing running, who are the reason I actually do contribute on here even if my opinion is terrible sometimes and the reason I go to every home game and make the NSW away trips. Don't take that as a shot or me being disrespectful to you guys who are the reason this is all here.

I am one confused bloke.:thumbsup:

One minute you are calling me an asshole and the next minute you are telling us you ain't taking a shot or being disrespectful.
One minute you are telling me to keep it to myself and then you are giving me credit for something

Quite frankly I ain't the slightest bit offended if you are taking a shot. Just stick your ground on where you stand please cause I have NFI :sup:

[MFKS]

Who wonders this? You keep bringing it up, but I am yet to see anyone talk about it otherwise.

If the team is performing shit, like it has for the best part of 6 years now, there's not too much to talk about. The newbies you're referring to probably come here to say "man, that was diabolical tonight. Bridges turned over the ball 100 times and Virgili doesn't even look interested in contributing" but they find that 2 or 3 of the regulars on here have already said it, and they needn't say any more.

I know a lot of people who read the posts on this forum but don't contribute because there's nothing new they can actually bring to the table - because we're so bad.

If we're all happy and optimistic, the foz seems like a giant wankfest that puts people off. If we're miserable so and so's, that puts people off.

And tbth - if the newbies you're referring to are one of the 107 people on the Jerks facebook who always like the comment saying "omg we should organise a day to get Bridgey in a quiet room and we'll all give him a gobbie" then I'm genuinely glad that they're not hanging around.

WLG May I just add that if people don't stick around here cause they do not like other peoples opinions cause they do not agree then why exactly are they wanted here??

All they would bring to the table is an extra tug for a circle jerk of agreement anyway.

The Foz is a place for opinion some people need to take the rose coloured glasses off and accept others will have alternate opinions than they do

[hausmann]

We might score a fair amount but I get the feeling we will concede even more

I personally prefer watching a game where we lose 2-3 to a game we lose 0-1.

The last few seasons have been so drab and there was little entertainment in how the goals were constructed. Hopefully a bit of sparkle on the pitch this year will liven everyone up.

One thing Stubbins has done well is bring in a lot of goal scorers. When your attack is one dimensional it is much easier to defend. A more potent attach might take the pressure off our defence.

[pv4]

One thing Stubbins has done well is bring in a lot of goal scorers. When your attack is one dimensional it is much easier to defend. A more potent attach might take the pressure off our defence.

Decent thought.

You look at who he has brought in attacking-wise, and they're all players who have confidence and maturity on the ball.

When Virgili is given the ball, 9 times out of 10 you can guarentee he will turn over possession before you can count to 5.

But look at when Griff played RM last season, and we actually had someone who was mature enough on the ball to hold onto possession.

A big problem we've had, and a lot of teams have in the world, is the defence and midfielders work really hard on playing out, but the ball gets instantly turned over when it reaches the top third players.

This is why I like Hoole way, way more than Virgili - Hoole actually holds onto the ball, and when he's pressured he won't just try and kick the ball through the defender, lose it, and refuse to chase back (like Virgili does) but he'll try and shield it and hold onto the ball.

Montano looks good at holding play up - his problem will be he looks super unfit. Particularly afternoon games, he won't last much longer than 60minutes. He'll be a lot better in the night games. Griff is obviously Griff, he'll be brilliant. And Jeronimo has shown his class already in this league. Flores too.

[hausmann]

And Carney. In the highlights of the Young Socceroos game he made a charge into the box and basically just stopped and held the ball up, didn't lose possession. If he permanently replaces Gallaway it will go a long way to stopping these kind of transition problems.

[plague]

Who wonders this? You keep bringing it up, but I am yet to see anyone talk about it otherwise.

If the team is performing shit, like it has for the best part of 6 years now, there's not too much to talk about. The newbies you're referring to probably come here to say "man, that was diabolical tonight. Bridges turned over the ball 100 times and Virgili doesn't even look interested in contributing" but they find that 2 or 3 of the regulars on here have already said it, and they needn't say any more.

I know a lot of people who read the posts on this forum but don't contribute because there's nothing new they can actually bring to the table - because we're so bad.

If we're all happy and optimistic, the foz seems like a giant wankfest that puts people off. If we're miserable so and so's, that puts people off.

And tbth - if the newbies you're referring to are one of the 107 people on the Jerks facebook who always like the comment saying "omg we should organise a day to get Bridgey in a quiet room and we'll all give him a gobbie" then I'm genuinely glad that they're not hanging around.

This is just a fantastic post to start the day on.
5 stars.
Well in.

[plague]

I am one confused bloke.:thumbsup:

One minute you are calling me an asshole and the next minute you are telling us you ain't taking a shot or being disrespectful.
One minute you are telling me to keep it to myself and then you are giving me credit for something

Quite frankly I ain't the slightest bit offended if you are taking a shot. Just stick your ground on where you stand please cause I have NFI :sup:

What's the confusing part?

In summary:
You can be an asshole at times.
Other times not so much.
That's why we love you.

[GazFish35]

some people need to take the rose coloured glasses off and accept others will have alternate opinions than they do

.

[pv4]

And Carney. In the highlights of the Young Socceroos game he made a charge into the box and basically just stopped and held the ball up, didn't lose possession. If he permanently replaces Gallaway it will go a long way to stopping these kind of transition problems.

You're dead right.

Gallaway is a solid defender, and incredible athlete, but when it comes to actually having the ball he is beyond diabolical. His go-to move seems to be push it past the defender, and just keep running the ball until he runs it out. I reckon he would have done it at least 3 times in the Mudgee game the other week.

Last season when we had Carney and Griff on the flanks, sure we lost a bit of pace, but man did we retain the ball in important areas.

It was no coincidence that Josh Mitchell started playing absolutely amazing once we had guys higher up who wouldn't just turn the ball over for fun.

[hausmann]

Okay, well how is this for an optimistic post. Here are the things that I like about the upcoming season, apart from the attacking players mentioned above:

- Jets admin seem to have lost a bit of their pride/arrogance which has been a hindrance to me connecting to the club for the last few seasons.
- Supporter forum to start this year
- We are getting a new state of the art pitch for our stadium
- Membership renewals still very decent for the club
- We have the Asian Cup to look forward to and games are actually being played in Newcastle
- David Gallop is a strong leader for the game in general
- The A-League itself has never been stronger, and appears to be secure. This was not always the case for most of recent history.
- While uncertain, we may land a new owner with professional football pedigree this year
- The football being played in the A-League is about a million times better than in was 10 years ago.
- Love my seat in the stadium and hope my sons show a bit more interest in going this year.
- The team have 4 games away to begin to gel before they play at Hunter Stadium.
- The long wait is finally over. (when the FFA adopt my apertura clausura idea I won't have to wait so long)

That's the base I'm starting from for this season. It's glass half full. Would prefer it to be 3/4 full but its not worth complaining about.

[Tommyjet]

I don't think there is much chance of us winning the first few and setting the pace for the rest of the competition, especially with us away from home because of the re-turfing. I think Our best bet is to focus on a tight defensive lineup and when the ball gets forward hope for some brilliance from griff, jeronimo. As it stands I would bench montano and Flores for the first 4-6 rounds and gradually build up their game time until they are 100% fit and cohesive with the team (more so montano ofcourse). This would coincide with the return to fitness of celeski (a vitally important player this season it think given the state of our midfield) and kanta. Basically to start the season I rather see 5 nil all draws than get wiped off the park trying to play through teams that seem far in advance to us in fitness (especially with key players) and cohesion. Hopefully we can pick up someone like Watson or kalmar to help pepper out in midfield until celeski is fit.

Then, barring more injuries to key players, once we have a squad full of fit players start to play the attractive football stubbins obviously wants to play.
I know the initial part doesn't sound pretty but with the tough start to the season away for 6 rds or so, I'd rather us build into the season than go out there all guns blazing without the fit key players you need to play attractive winning football.

[Jeterpool]

The Foz is a place for opinion some people need to take the rose coloured glasses off and accept others will have alternate opinions than they do

I agree in essence with what you say. Debate is healthy provided it doesn't get personal, which in this part of the forum it rarely does. Without differing opinions it's hard to debate, because we're all talking aout the same thing.

[Grimario]

I agree in essence with what you say. Debate is healthy provided it doesn't get personal, which in this part of the forum it rarely does. Without differing opinions it's hard to debate, because we're all talking aout the same thing.

Your opinion is dumb, you stupid poopoohead.

[BodyNovo]

go the jetties

[Mark325]

I am one confused bloke.:thumbsup:

One minute you are calling me an asshole and the next minute you are telling us you ain't taking a shot or being disrespectful.
One minute you are telling me to keep it to myself and then you are giving me credit for something

Quite frankly I ain't the slightest bit offended if you are taking a shot. Just stick your ground on where you stand please cause I have NFI :sup:

I didn't really expect guys to be offended but I assume I'm close to one of the younger guys on here so I don't want to give off an impression of not being appreciative. No one may have been bothered by that at all, but I still felt the need to clarify that I respect everyone on here.
More what I was trying to say is that you have moments of being an asshole is all, like I said there are moments where you're actually talking football and not shit that I actually do find myself agreeing with completely or to some degree with what you say. What I wish is that some of those shitting on others happened less then you're obvious knowledge of football is all. Hope that clarifies it a bit for ya

[MFKS]

Mr Fish for an educated man you are not wrong often but this time you are


I think you will find I am the strongest advocate for alternate opinion.

I am always looking out for alternate opinion to mine as it is the cornerstone that allows me the opportunity to run my mouth.


Just because I may not agree with someone's opinion don't confuse that with me not accepting of their right to an alternate view to me

[borat]

Don't write off Rd 1 just yet lads. We have had a horrible pre-season but things seem to be improving slowly with wins against the Nix and Young Socceroos.

Compare this to the gypos who were towelled 5-1 by the young Socceroos and last night put out a close to full strength line up to be flogged by Sydney Olympic 3-1

[GazFish35]

it is the cornerstone that allows me the opportunity to run my mouth.


Exactly. You're not interested in other peoples opinions, all you want is wall to bounce your opinions off.

Any decent debate/discussion usually involves both sides listening to and taking on board others opinions and coming to a mutual and more enlightened understanding of the complexity of any given issue. It's not simply seeing who can shout the loudest.

You're not interested in debate/discussions, you just want shouting competitions. Trouble is, you've been shouting about the same stuff for so long people have stopped listening.

GVE has an ego and is no good working with kids.
RM is out of his depth running the club.

Anything new to ad?

[hausmann]

What the team really needs in confidence. It's something the supporters can help provide or can take away.

Granted under GVE there were not many opportunities to give the team confidence, because their play was so stifling it really took the joy out of watching football.

Hopefully, with a bit of freedom of expression the support will get behind the team and build them up.

[Jeterpool]

What the team really needs in confidence. It's something the supporters can help provide or can take away.

Granted under GVE there were not many opportunities to give the team confidence, because their play was so stifling it really took the joy out of watching football.

Hopefully, with a bit of freedom of expression the support will get behind the team and build them up.

I agree. They've got the fresh start with a new coach, new ideas, new methods and now they need us to show up and get behind them.

[MFKS]

Exactly. You're not interested in other peoples opinions, all you want is wall to bounce your opinions off.

Any decent debate/discussion usually involves both sides listening to and taking on board others opinions and coming to a mutual and more enlightened understanding of the complexity of any given issue. It's not simply seeing who can shout the loudest.

You're not interested in debate/discussions, you just want shouting competitions. Trouble is, you've been shouting about the same stuff for so long people have stopped listening.

GVE has an ego and is no good working with kids.
RM is out of his depth running the club.

Anything new to ad?
:rof: Seriously am pissing myself laughing. What brought that on??

You obviously have some type of axe to grind with me. Stop beating around the bush and say what you want to say

[Grimario]

:rof: Seriously am pissing myself laughing. What brought that on??

You obviously have some type of axe to grind with me. Stop beating around the bush and say what you want to say

Look Member, I think there is a pretty obvious thing that Gaz is trying to say here. I think many others have tried to say it in the past and none will just come out and put it bluntly.




You should play disc golf.

http://nswdiscgolf.com/courses/

Find a course near you!

[Jeterpool]

Look Member, I think there is a pretty obvious thing that Gaz is trying to say here. I think many others have tried to say it in the past and none will just come out and put it bluntly.




You should play disc golf.

http://nswdiscgolf.com/courses/

Find a course near you!

Mods...please send this back to the appropriate forum :gent:

[Grimario]

Mods...please send this back to the appropriate forum :gent:

Sorry, I'll go back to the topic.

Member, you are a dick. Stop being such a dick.


That's about the current topic, right?

[plague]

To be fair to the Member re: Middleby and GVE. His continued rant is justified in that those two Pelicans are still in their jobs running a reign of terror ISIS would be proud of.

If people didn't continue the struggle for change then chicks wouldn't get the vote and they wouldn't have made all those extra Star Wars movies.
Ok they are bad examples but you get my point.

But he can still be an asshole at times.

[joel31]

- Supporter forum to start this year
whens this?

[Jeterpool]

Sorry, I'll go back to the topic.

Member, you are a dick. Stop being such a dick.


That's about the current topic, right?

That about sums up the last page, yeah.

[Jeterpool]

whens this?

Members forum application closed yesterday. Club has committed to a quarterly meeting with the 4 chosen representatives

[joel31]

we shouldn't be worried about away games. We are better away than at home anyway

[joel31]

Members forum application closed yesterday. Club has committed to a quarterly meeting with the 4 chosen representatives
I thought he meant a public one. I knew about this. Its only for membership issues but its a start

[GazFish35]

You obviously have some type of axe to grind with me. Stop beating around the bush and say what you want to say

No axe to grind
No beating around the bush.
I've said what I think. But if you need it made clearer....

You're not interested in debates or discussions or considering others points of view might be relevant, you just want to say the same thing over and over again and for all your longwinded posts you actually contribute very little.

[MFKS]

No axe to grind
No beating around the bush.
I've said what I think. But if you need it made clearer....

You're not interested in debates or discussions or considering others points of view might be relevant, you just want to say the same thing over and over again and for all your longwinded posts you actually contribute very little.

So after considering your point of view and its relevance as you requested I will keep this brief as i know how you don't like me to make long winded posts but I think you are wrong.


For an educated man I am surprised you are that certain you are right that you have me pegged
You think I ain't interested in debate/discussion you are seriously missing a lot and are not really paying attention to much going on.

[GazFish35]

So after considering your point of view and its relevance as you requested (no request was made, i just called you out on your BS) I will keep this brief as i know how you don't like me to make long winded posts (make as long a long winded post as you like, would just be nice if you contributed something new every now and again, I love long posts, I'm prone to them myself.) but I think you are wrong.


For an educated man (patronising flattery will get you nowhere, I'm no more educated than 25% of the country) I am surprised you are that certain you are right that you have me pegged (certain? No. Just expressing my opinion, always open to other possibilities)
You think I ain't interested in debate/discussion you are seriously missing a lot and are not really paying attention to much going on.(maybe you're right, I do tend to tune in and out of your repetitive BS, but most of what I read from you is forcefully worded myopic stuff and when people call you on it you argue somantics)


Happy to be wrong, will wait for evidence either way.

[MFKS]

Ok Mr Fish I can continue this with you as long as you like. See I am open to debate. Only problem here is the subject matter is limited and I ain't passionate enough about what we are discussing to care much.

Short and large of it is you don't like me and I am of the opinion that I really couldn't care less either way ???

Are we in agreement??


On another note what the hell are somantics??

I even looked it up in a dictionary as I was not sure but was not able to find it as I though it must have been one of the words used by people in the top 25% educated in the country to belittle a mere mortal like me and make me feel dumb.

Even Funk and Wagnalls had NFI about it.

I could assume that you were using the term semantics but it would be rather arrogant of oneself to make their own interpretation of the written word of someone else so I won't be that guy

[GazFish35]

Ok Mr Fish I can continue this with you as long as you like. See I am open to debate. Only problem here is the subject matter is limited and I ain't passionate enough about what we are discussing to care much.

Short and large of it is you don't like me (never met you, how can I not like you?) and I am of the opinion that I really couldn't care less either way ???

Are we in agreement??


On another note what the hell are somantics?? (Fantastic response, pick up on a typo and run with it)

I even looked it up in a dictionary as I was not sure but was not able to find it as I though it must have been one of the words used by people in the top 25% educated in the country to belittle a mere mortal like me and make me feel dumb. (You brought up education, I'm playing it down, it's your issue if your perception of my level education makes you feel anything about yourself)

Even Funk and Wagnalls had NFI about it.

I could assume that you were using the term semantics but it would be rather arrogant of oneself to make their own interpretation of the written word of someone else so I won't be that guy (stick with arrogant passive aggression, you don't do sarcasm well)

Evidence appears to be mounting. I think I'll do everyone a favour and put you back on my ignore list and give everyone a break. I'll check back in a month or so and see if you've moved on from the same old arguments.

[MFKS]

Evidence appears to be mounting. I think I'll do everyone a favour and put you back on my ignore list and give everyone a break. I'll check back in a month or so and see if you've moved on from the same old arguments.

So the old taking the bat and ball and going home routine??


Considering you have accused me of being narrow minded not interested in others opinions etc it would be a fitting response for me to prove your theory by actually putting you on my ignore list would it not??
Somehow you are accusing me of being narrow minded not open to alternate view yet you are putting me on the ignore list.

Seems like some ironic hypocrisy there which for some reason you hadn't actually noticed or couldn't have been your goal in this to make yourself look narrow minded

As for your point about me running with a typo. Well I may have run with it and for that I apoligise.

It was a serious question as to what you were referring to with the Somantic bit and as I am prone to get long winded and waffle on I have then proceeded to waffle on and get long winded and have thus proved your point that I get long winded and waffle on so I will admit you got me there.

>> LOOK I have just done this :thumbsup: Any decent debate/discussion usually involves both sides listening to and taking on board others opinions and coming to a mutual and more enlightened understanding of the complexity of any given issue.

[GazFish35]

So the old taking the bat and ball and going home routine??

some might view it like this. I don't. I just think people might want a break from me biting at the BS you post and the antagonistic nature of your rebuttals when people call you out. So the easiest way for me to stop biting is to not read your posts. I'm not closed to your view on anything, just the repetitive nature of it and the BS you spin when you say you want others opinions, when clearly all you really want is an argument, this series of perhaps further demonstrates this

Considering you have accused me of being narrow minded not interested in others opinions etc it would be a fitting response for me to prove your theory by actually putting you on my ignore list would it not?? do as you want, I'm not looking to score points
Somehow you are accusing me of being narrow minded not open to alternate view yet you are putting me on the ignore list.

I just call you on your BS... this would suggest I do actually read your posts and think about what you write! My intention to take some time off from your waffle and check back to see if you really are as repetitive and full of BS as I feel.... I see it as me taking a step back to allow your future posts to demonstrate if my assessment of your contribution is accurate without the influence of me biting

Seems like some ironic hypocrisy there which for some reason you hadn't actually noticed or couldn't have been your goal in this to make yourself look narrow minded i had noticed but decided to take a view that being seen to be narrow minded by people on here is less important to me than acting on my convictions to (as mentioned above) take a step back and reassess, I figure a month might let the dust settle mind provide a more accurate picture

As for your point about me running with a typo. Well I may have run with it and for that I apoligise.

It was a serious question as to what you were referring to with the Somantic bit and as I am prone to get long winded and waffle on I have then proceeded to waffle on and get long winded and have thus proved your point that I get long winded and waffle on so I will admit you got me there.

my point about semantics was that when someone points out a flaw in your argument you often appear to distract from and derail the original discussion and turn the issue into one of word choice.... Something you did with my typo for example.

>> LOOK I have just done this :thumbsup: Any decent debate/discussion usually involves both sides listening to and taking on board others opinions and coming to a mutual and more enlightened understanding of the complexity of any given issue.

its not hard is it? Can I suggest you try it more often? And we might end up with more decent discussion on here and less shouting matches

Read you in a month

except in the ultimate tipster thread ;)



BOT

------ birraz ------
Neville Kew regs hoole
----- pepper ------
Griff----------- carney
------- Flores --------
------- Jeronimo ------

[furns]

So the old taking the bat and ball and going home routine??


Considering you have accused me of being narrow minded not interested in others opinions etc it would be a fitting response for me to prove your theory by actually putting you on my ignore list would it not??
Somehow you are accusing me of being narrow minded not open to alternate view yet you are putting me on the ignore list.

Seems like some ironic hypocrisy there which for some reason you hadn't actually noticed or couldn't have been your goal in this to make yourself look narrow minded

As for your point about me running with a typo. Well I may have run with it and for that I apoligise.

It was a serious question as to what you were referring to with the Somantic bit and as I am prone to get long winded and waffle on I have then proceeded to waffle on and get long winded and have thus proved your point that I get long winded and waffle on so I will admit you got me there.

>> LOOK I have just done this :thumbsup: Any decent debate/discussion usually involves both sides listening to and taking on board others opinions and coming to a mutual and more enlightened understanding of the complexity of any given issue.
You do realise that getting into an argument with an admin is fraught with danger for your ability to be able to post in this forum right?
You were given some advice and feedback, suggest you take it on board.

Moving on..........

[GazFish35]

Lol Furns! No ban threat necessary, happy for the discussion to happen.

[Premy]

------ birraz ------
Neville Kew regs hoole
----- pepper ------
Griff----------- carney
------- Flores --------
------- Jeronimo ------
Are we starting with 10 or did Bravo or Hannah get sent off.

Sorry someone had to be that guy, I thought why not me.


edit: whoops, sorry premy, I hit "edit" instead of "quote"

[GazFish35]

Are we starting with 10 or did Bravo or Hannah get sent off.

Sorry someone had to be that guy, I thought why not me.




Ha! Good spot, but Hannah up next to Jeronimo

------ birraz ------
Neville Kew regs hoole
----- pepper ------
Griff----------- carney
------- Flores --------
---Hannah Jeronimo ------

My theory is pepper can become a decent DM, carney can help defensively, griff can help start things and we should just focus on scoring more than them.

[redwah]

So after considering your point of view and its relevance as you requested I will keep this brief as i know how you don't like me to make long winded posts but I think you are wrong.


For an educated man I am surprised you are that certain you are right that you have me pegged
You think I ain't interested in debate/discussion you are seriously missing a lot and are not really paying attention to much going on.

I think the first 36 words of your post sum up Gaz's argument spot on.

[plague]

I think the first 36 words of your post sum up Gaz's argument spot on.

I think the last two words of your post are spot on.

[GazFish35]

I think the last two words of your post are spot on.

I think you're spot on.

[Grimario]

It could just be the mega dose of oxy that I'm on, but I'm feeling momentarily optimistic. If our best eleven can play most of our games, we'll make the top 6. If Neville has a start to the season like he did last year, he'll be at the Asian cup with Biraz. Flores feeding Griff and Steele on the flanks or in behind to Jeronimo will get us plenty of goals and the back 4 of Nev Kew Ado Carney is, on paper, absolutely fantastic. Three European experienced internationals and a future national squad player with a future national keeper behind them.

We'll live and die on injuries and our managers ability to respond to changes in games, something that Zane was lacking in a few games we threw away last season.

[Jeterpool]

As a matter of interest, how do people really think we will do for the first 4 away games? Where will we be on the table for the first home game?

We have the gypos, City, Wellington and Perth.

I think we will get a draw in our first 2 games, beat the Nix and lose to Perth - 5 points from 9. However, given our history against the Mariners, Nix and Perth and the hype around City because it will be their first home game, it could well be 0. I really hope it isn't - I don't expect it to be.

[pv4]

I can definitely seeing it being 0 from 12 points, easily.

We never do well in Gosford, and we'll be lucky to get a draw.

City are a fresh side but with some world-class players in their team. I feel like their defence is average though, so if we can somehow lump 6 players behind the ball to stifle their attacks and then hit on the counter, we could be up for a close match there.

I feel like Wellington a bit, but moreso Perth are highly underrated going into this season. Particularly at their respective home grounds, they'll be tough to take points from.

I predict 0-2 points after the first 4 games, and I expect 35-55 calls for Bridges to take over as coach in that time from the facebook public.

[plague]

I can definitely seeing it being 0 from 12 points, easily.

We never do well in Gosford, and we'll be lucky to get a draw.

City are a fresh side but with some world-class players in their team. I feel like their defence is average though, so if we can somehow lump 6 players behind the ball to stifle their attacks and then hit on the counter, we could be up for a close match there.

I feel like Wellington a bit, but moreso Perth are highly underrated going into this season. Particularly at their respective home grounds, they'll be tough to take points from.

I predict 0-2 points after the first 4 games, and I expect 35-55 calls for Bridges to take over as coach in that time from the facebook public.

1 point.
Prob chair the coach off the pitch when we get it too.

HashtagDoomed

[Jeterpool]

I can definitely seeing it being 0 from 12 points, easily.

We never do well in Gosford, and we'll be lucky to get a draw.

City are a fresh side but with some world-class players in their team. I feel like their defence is average though, so if we can somehow lump 6 players behind the ball to stifle their attacks and then hit on the counter, we could be up for a close match there.

I feel like Wellington a bit, but moreso Perth are highly underrated going into this season. Particularly at their respective home grounds, they'll be tough to take points from.

I predict 0-2 points after the first 4 games, and I expect 35-55 calls for Bridges to take over as coach in that time from the facebook public.

I'd really like to think that if we lose the 4 first games people won't be calling for Stubbin's head but I realise I'm kidding myself.

[parksey]

i've got a feeling that we're going to win this weekend

[Bon]

i've got a feeling that we're going to win this weekend

I hope you arent being sarcastic Parksey..
Cause I actually do think we might shock a few people this weekend..

[joel31]

As a matter of interest, how do people really think we will do for the first 4 away games? Where will we be on the table for the first home game?

We have the gypos, City, Wellington and Perth.

I think we will get a draw in our first 2 games, beat the Nix and lose to Perth - 5 points from 9. However, given our history against the Mariners, Nix and Perth and the hype around City because it will be their first home game, it could well be 0. I really hope it isn't - I don't expect it to be.
3/4 teams of those will be outside the top 6 with us. The ones who'll make it will be City.

[Fairgo]

As a matter of interest, how do people really think we will do for the first 4 away games? Where will we be on the table for the first home game?

We have the gypos, City, Wellington and Perth.

I think we will get a draw in our first 2 games, beat the Nix and lose to Perth - 5 points from 9. However, given our history against the Mariners, Nix and Perth and the hype around City because it will be their first home game, it could well be 0. I really hope it isn't - I don't expect it to be.

I am thinking we could possibly get 7-9 from 12, then from there we will be halted. Bring it on!! Go Jets!!

[Beeen]

3/4 teams of those will be outside the top 6 with us. The ones who'll make it will be City.

I'm not so sure about City. I reckon they will go to shit once Villa leaves. Their defence is pretty suspect.

[pv4]

1 point.
Prob chair the coach off the pitch when we get it too.

HashtagDoomed

Are you a psychic m8

[pv4]

So now that the four rounds are over, how do yall feel about your initial predictions in regards to points from the first four games now?

[plague]

So now that the four rounds are over, how do yall feel about your initial predictions in regards to points from the first four games now?

Pretty ****ing satisfied to be fair.

[Grimario]

It could just be the mega dose of oxy that I'm on, but I'm feeling momentarily optimistic. If our best eleven can play most of our games, we'll make the top 6. If Neville has a start to the season like he did last year, he'll be at the Asian cup with Biraz. Flores feeding Griff and Steele on the flanks or in behind to Jeronimo will get us plenty of goals and the back 4 of Nev Kew Ado Carney is, on paper, absolutely fantastic. Three European experienced internationals and a future national squad player with a future national keeper behind them.

We'll live and die on injuries and our managers ability to respond to changes in games, something that Zane was lacking in a few games we threw away last season.

Was definitely the oxy talking.

We are shit.

[Thomas477]

Pretty ****ing satisfied to be fair.

+1, very happy to have got 1 point from a possible 12. Wasn't expecting that tbh.

[sammydog]

Id love for us to just go back to a 4-4-2 to settle things down and provide a bit more structure to the middle of the park.

[MFKS]

Id love for us to just go back to a 4-4-2 to settle things down and provide a bit more structure to the middle of the park.

The rather ironic thing is that we can't play with the 4-5-1 we have been playing with the 3 in the centre and the way forward you believe for us is to play 4-4-2 and 2 in the middle???

The reason the 4-4-2 may work for us will be when Griff is restored to his rightful position and not sacrificed on the wing and we for once have 2 up front and will have **** all to do with structure in the middle of the park as you put it