Rd 2 Melbourne City Vs Newcastle Jets 19/10/14 k/off 3:00pm AEDST

[belchardo]

think this will be a pretty convincing win to melbourne. hope we put in a good showing.


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2014/2015 Hyundai A-League
Season 10 Round 2
Melbourne City FC vs Newcastle United Jets FC

When: Sunday 19th October, 2014
Where: AAMI Park, Olympic Boulevard, Melbourne, VIC
Kickoff: 3pm AEDST (gates open 2pm)
Tickets: http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/Show.aspx?sh=MCITY0215
Prematch: Beer DeLuxe, Federation Square, Melbourne from 11am
Watch: LIVE on Foxsports 1 and FoxSports 1HD
Listen: ABC Grandstand Digital online or ABC Radio App
Tweet: @newyboys #MCYvNEW #NTUA

If you are unable to travel to the game in Melbourne, please come down to the District Park Tennis Club in Broadmeadow and watch the game LIVE. The Tenzo is our permanent venue for both home AND away Newcastle Jets fixtures.
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[furns]

Paging Jeterpool

[plague]

Doomed.
GVE to drop Pepps to youth league after such a strong game.

[Jeterpool]

Paging Jeterpool

Tonight mate

[parksey]

anyone else going to this one?

[Jeterpool]

2014/15 A-League Round 2 Preview – Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets


FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 12 games between the two teams.
Jets Wins – 6, City Wins – 4, Drawn – 2


In Melbourne – 5 games
Jets Wins – 1, City Wins – 3, Drawn – 1

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 20, City – 17

Cards in Fixture
Jets – 40 (39 Yellow, 1 Red), City – 20 (19 Yellow, 1 Red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets – LL
City – DL

Leading Scorers
Jets – N/A, City – David Villa 1

Last Result -
Jets 1 (Taggart 54’) – Heart 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 22.


FIXTURE RECORDS
Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Brockie 23’, R. Griffiths 47’, Bridges 76’) – Heart 0, Round 19, Season 7 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Heart 3 (Fred 66’, Dugandzic 73’, Behich 85’), Round 6, Season 7 at AAMI Park, 12/11/2011.

Leading Scorers in fixture –

Jets – 6 (Ryan Griffiths)
City – 5 (Mate Dugandzic)

Average Away A-League crowd – 5296

COACHING
Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches


Newcastle Jets Coaching Records –

Phil Stubbins - 0 Matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = -% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
Richard Money – 0 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 loss = -% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 0 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = -% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Craig Deans -1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = 100% win ratio)


KEY FACTS:

There has never been a scoreless game in this fixture.
The Jets have kept 4 clean sheets. Each of these clean sheets has been the final meeting between each of the games.
The Jets have scored 3 goals in the first meeting between these clubs in the last 3 seasons.
Both Mark Birrighitti and Andrew Redmayne have been opposing goalkeepers in the last 5 meetings.
Ben Kantarovski has scored the only own goal in this fixture.
The last Jets haven’t won in Melbourne against the Heart in the last 3 seasons. Their only win was after going down to 10 men after 10 minutes when Jobe Wheelhouse was sent off.
The last meeting between the two clubs, a 3-1 loss, was the last match of Gary Van Egmond’s second tenure.
The Jets have won a second round match once, lost twice and drawn 6 times in 9 seasons of the A-League.
Phil Stubbins will be the 7th Jets Coach.
Gary Van Egmond is the only Jets coach to have won their second fixture in charge. Gary won his second match during both stints with the club.
The Jets have never completed this fixture without a player receiving a booking. Our average over the last 5 meetings is 4 per match.


Jets v City Trivia:
1. Four players have scored doubles (or more) in this fixture. Who are they?

2. Who are the five Jets players who were Visa players when they scored in this fixture?

3. Who has scored the fastest goal in this fixture?

[Jeterpool]

I'm unsure what to do with City, all.

Should I keep their records with the Heart? Treat them as two different teams?

I keep the Brisbane Roar and Queensland Roar together.

Interested in your thoughts!

[furns]

They are the same team. Like roar all that changed was part of the name

[A.J.]

2014/15 A-League Round 2 Preview – Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets




Jets v City Trivia:
1. Four players have scored doubles (or more) in this fixture. Who are they?

2. Who are the five Jets players who were Visa players when they scored in this fixture?

3. Who has scored the fastest goal in this fixture?

1) Taggz, R Griff, Dugandzic....can't think of the 4th

2) Bridges, Jeffers, Brockie, Byun, Heskey

3) I remember we gave away a penalty in the first few minutes down there.....Dugandzic?

[pv4]

Keep the Heart history for City I say Jpool.

In answer to question 1, I'm confident Richard Garcia scored a double against us once.

[Jeterpool]

1) Taggz, R Griff, Dugandzic....can't think of the 4th

2) Bridges, Jeffers, Brockie, Byun, Heskey

3) I remember we gave away a penalty in the first few minutes down there.....Dugandzic?

Pretty close with those! I'll save the answers for Friday.


Keep the Heart history for City I say Jpool.

I think I will. My logic was the same as Furns - they've simply had a name change like the Roar - albeit a bigger name change.


In answer to question 1, I'm confident Richard Garcia scored a double against us once.

Quite possibly...see above

[leftrightout]

Jets v City Trivia:
1. Four players have scored doubles (or more) in this fixture. Who are they?

2. Who are the five Jets players who were Visa players when they scored in this fixture?

3. Who has scored the fastest goal in this fixture?

Pretty sure it was Garcia who scored the fastest goal after about 50 seconds?
They then went 2-0 after about 5 minutes after a penalty but the match ended in a draw.
It was either 2-2 or 3-3 cant quite remember

[Grimario]

The Newcastle Jets have named an extended 18-man squad to take on David Villa and Melbourne City at AAMI Park on Sunday.
Newcastle Jets squad: 1.Mark BIRIGHITTI (GK), 2.Scott NEVILLE, 3.Taylor REGAN, 4.Kew JALIENS (c), 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI, 7.Jeronimo NEUMANN, 8.Zenon CARAVELLA, 9.Joel GRIFFITHS, 10.Marcos FLORES, 11.Andrew HOOLE, 12.Sam GALLAGHER, 13.Edson MONTANO, 16.Jacob PEPPER, 17.James VIRGILI, 20.Ben KENNEDY (GK), 21.Sam GALLAWAY, 22.Jonny STEELE, 23.David CARNEY
***two to be omitted***
Ins: 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI (return from injury), 21.Sam GALLAWAY (promoted).
Outs: Nil
Unavailable: 6.Adrian MADASCHI (calf– 1-2 weeks), 14.Billy CELESKI (groin – 5-7 weeks), 15.Josh BARRESI (knee – season), 19.Mitch COOPER (knee – 5-7 weeks)

[MFKS]

Gee whiz

Gallaway In is a HUGE worry

[WolfMan]

Never fear - Two to be omitted. Gallaway will be one of them

[joel31]

Hopefully Kanta starts and Regan moves to the bench

**Note this is not a dig at Regan but he is not a midfielder

[belchardo]

don't agree joel. when was the last time kanta played? I honestly can't remember.

for me, regan and pepper start, kanta on with between 15-30 minutes to go.

gallaway and virgili to be omitted.

[joel31]

Regan will be exposed in midfield eventually

[belchardo]

don't really disagree, but so will an unfit kanta.

[cobra23]

don't really disagree, but so will an unfit kanta.

Caravella to start over regan,

[hausmann]

gallaway and virgili to be omitted.

I think it will be Gallaway and Hoole. I think Virgilli probably did enough with his shot on goal and set up of Steele to go.

[plague]

Regan will be exposed in midfield eventually

So then he'll be like 90% of our organisation.

[Grimario]

Regan will be exposed in midfield eventually

Should wear longer shorts.

[Jeterpool]

1) Taggz, R Griff, Dugandzic....can't think of the 4th

2) Bridges, Jeffers, Brockie, Byun, Heskey

3) I remember we gave away a penalty in the first few minutes down there.....Dugandzic?

1) - Yes that is three of the 4

2) Well done!!

3) Not Dugandzic. That was the second goal of the game




In answer to question 1, I'm confident Richard Garcia scored a double against us once.

And there is the 4th.


Pretty sure it was Garcia who scored the fastest goal after about 50 seconds?
They then went 2-0 after about 5 minutes after a penalty but the match ended in a draw.
It was either 2-2 or 3-3 cant quite remember

really well done! It ended 3-3.

NF.net gets a 100% mark this week

[Grimario]

Griff not training today... has ingrown toenail.

[Premy]

Griff not training today... has ingrown toenail.
You going to the game tonight Grim? What's the buzz like down there ATM?

[Grimario]

You going to the game tonight Grim? What's the buzz like down there ATM?

Football fans that I know are pretty pumped. They have street stalls set up, whole bunch of food carts and what not getting ready for the masses of fans. Expecting 30-35k, so should be epic.

And no, not going.

[Jeterpool]

The Referee: – Jarred Gillett

The Jets overall W-D-L record under Gillett is 3-3-8. Away from home we’ve only ever won once.
The one Jets v Heart fixture he referred was a 3-3 draw in Season 8 in which he awarded 2 penalties.
In 14 Jets matches officiated, Gillett has awarded 9 penalties.
On average, the Jets have received more bookings per game (2.28) than their opposition (1.57) under Gillett.
Taylor Regan is the only Jets player to have been dismissed under Gillett.
The Jets have failed to score in the last 4 matches Gillett has officiated, but have conceded 11.
The last Sunday match he officiated was a 5-0 loss to Melbourne Victory at AAMI Park.

[MFKS]

The Referee: – Jarred Gillett

The Jets overall W-D-L record under Gillett is 3-3-8. Away from home we’ve only ever won once.
The one Jets v Heart fixture he referred was a 3-3 draw in Season 8 in which he awarded 2 penalties.
In 14 Jets matches officiated, Gillett has awarded 9 penalties.
On average, the Jets have received more bookings per game (2.28) than their opposition (1.57) under Gillett.
Taylor Regan is the only Jets player to have been dismissed under Gillett.
The Jets have failed to score in the last 4 matches Gillett has officiated, but have conceded 11.
The last Sunday match he officiated was a 5-0 loss to Melbourne Victory at AAMI Park.
So what slim hopes we had have just been right royally ****ed now.

What price are Heart paying for the win???

[belchardo]

Football fans that I know are pretty pumped. They have street stalls set up, whole bunch of food carts and what not getting ready for the masses of fans. Expecting 30-35k, so should be epic.

And no, not going.

35K tonight,
45K tomorrow night

surely we should crack 100K crowd figure this weekend.

[MFKS]

Football fans that I know are pretty pumped. They have street stalls set up, whole bunch of food carts and what not getting ready for the masses of fans. Expecting 30-35k, so should be epic.

And no, not going.

Disc Golf??

[Grimario]

Disc Golf??

Is awesome.

What's the question?

[leftrightout]

35K tonight,
45K tomorrow night

surely we should crack 100K crowd figure this weekend.

They are hoping for over 15,000 at city vs jets as well so should do it fairly comfortable.

[MFKS]

Weather Report is apparently 28 C for Sunday???

Surely a typo does it ever get that hot down there??

Can see a pile of Newy's finest in shorts and t shirts freezing their nuts off in an Antarctic Breeze

[furns]

Match details added to OP

[furns]

REMINDER to travelling Newcastle Supporters:

We have organised Beer DeLuxe as a pregame venue for ALL Jets supporters, this Sunday from 11am. Please find us downstairs in the beer garden, grab a drink and say gday.
Under 18's under supervision are allowed anywhere inside the venue and beer garden, so its suitable for everyone who is travelling.
The venue has also kindly offered all supporters (of drinking age)
$6 schooners of Thunder Rd Globe Lager.

We will march as one from Fed Square at 215pm to AAMI Park which will take approx 20 mins.

If you are coming to Melbourne, please RSVP to the event on the Squadron Novocastria FB page.

[hawk]

We have a good team that plays hard and is well organised. We'll go well

tip 1-3

is it too late for a "villa is up the Duff" banner?

[the blue manc]

Only early, but looking good. Looking strong at the back.

[Rocky]

15 in, haven't conceded, don't look completely shit, Steele impressing with his defensive duties, Williams looking dangerous.

[Rocky]

Roffman still a shite forward

[Ranger-86]

I dont mind us playing counter attacking football as this situation dictates it, but christ if we are going to do it our transition needs to be crisp and with , right now its very slow and sluggish , i can tell you now we will need a goal to get something out of this

[weston]

Our crossing stinks

[GazFish35]

Watching on a dodgy stream and no sound..... We look solid slowing them at the top if our defensive third but wide open everywhere else.

Henny penny shirt backs look weird.

[belchardo]

Steele is rapidly firming in my mind as the laziest player we have ever had. He's got a 2 minute work ethic, after that its lots of head throwing, standing still and dumb, lazy decisions.

Are we even playing with a midfield?

[Ranger-86]

Steele Very dissapointing last game and this game so far

[GazFish35]

I think the midfield have been told to help the backline defend and the frontline get ahead of the ball. Seems Phil phorgot to tell them to be midfielders too.

[Rocky]

Birrazzzz <3

[Mark325]

we need a formation change big time, Montano as the only forward is not working.

[belchardo]

What I like about birra: diving for that header (assume he thought "I've got a steel capped face, it's gonna hurt him more than me")
What drives me nuts about birra: three crosses drifting across the goal mouth straight over his head and not even making an attempt for it!

[belchardo]

General defence is pretty appalling, but our scramble defence is amazing.

[belchardo]

Is BK injured? Solari is on the bench. (Not calling for birra to be subbed, just wondering what's up with BK)

[NewyTy]

BK played in the youth game yesterday. Not sure why as Solari's normally the youth goalkeeper.

[baldrick]

What drives me nuts about birra: three crosses drifting across the goal mouth straight over his head and not even making an attempt for it!

His goal kicks are terrible

[belchardo]

Best. Kick. Off. Ever.

:slap: :thumbsup: :banghead:

[the blue manc]

BK played in the youth game yesterday. Not sure why as Solari's normally the youth goalkeeper.

BK has an ear problem.Cant fly,played youth yesterday.

[belchardo]

Another classic effort from Steele.

[belchardo]

Caravella for regan? Completely baffling to me. Defensive midfield doesn't seem to be the issue to me.

[Rocky]

Had some good moments but our passing is woeful.

[NewyTy]

BK has an ear problem.Cant fly,played youth yesterday.

Fair enough. It was good to see him get a game.

[weston]

We are getting left open in our own left back position. Carney goes forward and takes his time getting back.

[belchardo]

What position is carney playing? Have we changed to a back three or something? He seems to be anywhere he wants to be when we need him in defence!

[Rocky]

Whos commentating along with Harps? He's right on Villa's dick that's for sure.
Neville playing well today.

[GazFish35]

I'm a glass half full kinda guy.

I'm liking this cautious defensive approach. Stubbins is using his cattle.

With GVE in charge we'd have won more corners but be down 3-0 not up by 1!

[Ranger-86]

Mantano > zura

[Retro Jet]

Woot fkn woot!!!!!
Account opened.
We might scumbag a draw here lol
Please, no Mitch Puke moments Jets

[GazFish35]

And **** me drunk.... An import scored for us!

[belchardo]

Montano! Took me 4 replays to realise it wasn't an own goal! Great work from griff, great finish from edson.

[Imyourhero]

My favourite part was griffo telling him to run to the fans

[NewyTy]

Looked good in the last twenty or so minutes. Will be tough to hang on.

[belchardo]

whos commentating along with Harps? He's right on Villa's dick that's for sure.
Neville playing well today.

Cockerill. Villa = del piero V2.0

[Retro Jet]

Carn Jeronimo...run at the phuckers!

[Rocky]

Steele is making a fan of me. I'm actually liking the look of our squad at the moment, we're looking both more threatening and more solid than last year.

[Retro Jet]

Stuff me...not even on taget from...how far out?

Btw, have we learnt to park a bus yet?

Answer: NOPE!

[Rocky]

We never do it easy

[plague]

Jets.

[the blue manc]

brown to score the winner

[plague]

Geronimo and Caravella not to score the winner.

[Premy]

Fuc.king Caravella.

[plague]

By the way I'll see some of you lads over in the Biraz thread soon so you can explain how that ball went under his arm.

[Rocky]

By the way I'll see some of you lads over in the Biraz thread soon so you can explain how that ball went under his arm.

It didnt did it? Pretty sure the replay showed him getting a glove to it.

[Retro Jet]

Glad we didn't cough up 3pts to this Rent-a-team but fook me, had the chances to kill it off.
Better things to come. Wouldn't be surprised if weez nix da 3 points over the Ditch

[Retro Jet]

Geronimo and Caravella not to score the winner.

:lol::lol:

[Mark325]

I would say conditioning hurt us in the end, our guys were banged up and struggling to keep up

[NewyTy]

Disappointed not to steal a win but was impressed with Scott Neville's before he cramped up. Handled things very well. Good to see Steele step up a bit in the second half. They took a lot of pressure from City and worked hard to earn a draw. Better things to come.

[q-money]

Steeles first half was terrible, improved in the second

caravella and jeronimo tho...smh

jeronimo should have buried that, I could have ffs

[leftrightout]

Steeles first half was terrible, improved in the second

caravella and jeronimo tho...smh

jeronimo should have buried that, I could have ffs

Besides the obvious miss, i thought caravelle was good when he came on. We really did start keeping the ball when coming out from the back a lot more and there were very few, if any, circles performed!

I dare say he will start there next week.

How bloody good is Peppers work rate, his fitness looks miles above the rest of our squad. Didn't he have shoulder surgery in off season too? So he wouldn't have even had full pre season. If he can be consistent at this level, he will play every game he is fit!

[q-money]

cant fault his effort but we have to bury those chances. Jeronimo, ****ing hell. Last year that would have been top corner and burnt a hole in the net

griff-flores-montano was sexy time for that goal so more of that pls

birraz :oops:

[Premy]

It didnt did it? Pretty sure the replay showed him getting a glove to it.
A firm glove, IMO he got enough hand to it to be able to push it wide, should have been stronger and done better.

[Ranger-86]

A snap strike from a world class player and recent workd cup goal scorer. Not much more he could do , seen plenty of keepers get done by villa in my time and no way was birraz effort worse than any other keeper.

Sometimes the strike is to good,

[Rocky]

A firm glove, IMO he got enough hand to it to be able to push it wide, should have been stronger and done better.

Will confess to being a fan of the bloke but I don't know if there's really too much he could have done, the shot was low, hard and curling away from his hand. I'll make sure to pass on to Stubbins he needs to invest in some more training equipment http://www.complete-strength-training.com/images/improve-grip-strength-hand-grippers.jpg

[hawk]

Steeles first half was terrible, improved in the second

caravella and jeronimo tho...smh


has big trouble with distribution but effort makes up.
Caravello had another great start with heaps of pass n move into space which settled us on the ball. biraz better,
Griff, Kew, Nev, carney, montello all good

Did very well on the whole against a team that will be tipped for the title.

[sammydog]

has big trouble with distribution but effort makes up.
Caravello had another great start with heaps of pass n move into space which settled us on the ball. biraz better,
Griff, Kew, Nev, carney, montello all good

Did very well on the whole against a team that will be tipped for the title.

Caravello changed us for the better when he came on, should start next match. Just needs to work on his shin technique in front of goal.

The passage of play between flores, griff and montano for the goal was great. Positive signs there that those three should work well together.

Defensively I thought we looked solid as well. Only thing really lacking today appeared to be fitness. We just seemed to be flat, then towards the end cramps set in. Coaching staff need to fix that quick.

[Premy]

Thought Montano was brilliant today but if I was to be critical, that ball he laid of to Jeronimo was fantastic and Jeronimo should have buried it but I would like to see Montano back him self from that range.
I know super critical but I couldn't help but think bury it before Newman came into the shot.

[Premy]

A snap strike from a world class player and recent workd cup goal scorer. Not much more he could do , seen plenty of keepers get done by villa in my time and no way was birraz effort worse than any other keeper.

Sometimes the strike is to good,

Will confess to being a fan of the bloke but I don't know if there's really too much he could have done, the shot was low, hard and curling away from his hand. I'll make sure to pass on to Stubbins he needs to invest in some more training equipment http://www.complete-strength-training.com/images/improve-grip-strength-hand-grippers.jpg

Maybe you're both right but after seeing replays I feel he really could have done better and if you want to play at that level "could have done better" is not good enough.

[GazFish35]

A snap strike from a world class player and recent workd cup goal scorer. Not much more he could do , seen plenty of keepers get done by villa in my time and no way was birraz effort worse than any other keeper.

Sometimes the strike is to good,


Was bk afforded the same considerations when delPierdive curled one past him?

Not making comment on birraz (haven't seen replay and stream wasn't clear) or on anyone holding this view, just interesting as an example of the two different standards we as a collective group of fans seem to hold our keepers to.

[GazFish35]

Thought Montano was brilliant today but if I was to be critical, that ball he laid of to Jeronimo was fantastic and Jeronimo should have buried it but I would like to see Montano back him self from that range.
I know super critical but I couldn't help but think bury it before Newman came into the shot.

Given the outcome I don't think Montana passing to jeronimo instead of shooting will be a problem again!

[Ranger-86]

Was bk afforded the same considerations when delPierdive curled one past him?

Not making comment on birraz (haven't seen replay and stream wasn't clear) or on anyone holding this view, just interesting as an example of the two different standards we as a collective group of fans seem to hold our keepers to.

Del peiro wasnt a snap strike ????

He had an eternity to get angles right
This goal was well closer than that freekick.

But thats in the past

[belchardo]

Ball came around the back of kew as well, think he would have seen it late.

[plague]

Del peiro wasnt a snap strike ????

He had an eternity to get angles right
This goal was well closer than that freekick.

But thats in the past
Oh my good lawd that's the best worst explanation ever.

Tbf though he did dive so Thomas will be happy bout that.

Can't believe there's not a Solari out thread already.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

caravella can get ****ed

http://puu.sh/cidEv/1c705b5e69.png

[GazFish35]

Del peiro wasnt a snap strike ????

He had an eternity to get angles right
This goal was well closer than that freekick.

But thats in the past

It could be argued birraz got his angles wrong on this one too but my point was more about Bk also conceding a goal against a world class player ..... A dead ball specialist etc etc.




Just seen the replay, if birraz gets his arse dragged through a barbed wire fence backwards for that then caravella and Neumann should be running 10 laps (of Stockton beach) before and after training.

Great goal, not bad keeping. Though he would be gutted getting so much on it....





Assuming he's now phased by such things. ;)

[Jeterpool]

A few observations from me on today's game.

We need to improve our communication at the back. I saw Neville head the ball out for a corner at least 3 times when a word from his keeper could have resulted in a chest down of the ball, safely to Birraz. He was under no pressure each of these times. Gallagher did the same - booting it out for a corner when he could have shielded it out.

What was the go with our substitute bench - Virgilli and Hoole play the same position yet both were on the bench. This was an issue I had with the previous manager so I hope that's not going on again.

I'll reiterate again - Carney is LAZY. I saw a number of times, especially in the first half, his forward forays left us exposed at the back. For as poor as he can be, at least when he gives it away Gallaway is determined to get it back.

Nice header from Montano. Well done mate.

Regan and Pepper put in a great midfield shift. Jaliens, Neville and Gallagher did well too. Birraz had a better game.

And finally, Caravella :blush:

[belchardo]

Silver lining - we've got more points than Brisbane

[plague]

So are we all clear now on the novel idea of playing Pepper in his best position?

Oh, so we all knew that, just not our ex manager.
Cool cool. Carry on lads.

[Mark325]

And finally, Caravella :blush:

For my money, I would say Jeronimo's shot is more inexcusable then Zenon's.

Up until the miss I thought Zenon did a good job and I'd say has earned a starting spot over Regan. That's not bashing Regan who I thought did better this game but I think Zenon did better and you're definitely not gonna take off Pepper.

[GazFish35]

Silver lining - we've got more points than Brisbane

And the hooligan hoops

[plague]

For my money, I would say Jeronimo's shot is more inexcusable then Zenon's.

Oh man some people on here.

[Mark325]

Oh man some people on here.

For me, you're more likely to mis-calculate the shot zenon had. Geronimo's shot, especially when you consider he is a striker who's expectation it was when he came on the pitch was to score a goal, what he did was downright stupidity. He had to have know from the get go that he was recieving that pass, between when it left Montano's boot and hit his he had so much time to line the shot up and figure out what course of action to take, but he still somehow ****ed it up beyond belief. Most probably won't agree, and maybe I felt that way because when zenon missed we were winning and when geronimo did we weren't.

[Jeterpool]

For my money, I would say Jeronimo's shot is more inexcusable then Zenon's.

Up until the miss I thought Zenon did a good job and I'd say has earned a starting spot over Regan. That's not bashing Regan who I thought did better this game but I think Zenon did better and you're definitely not gonna take off Pepper.

Both should have been buried

[Mark325]

Both should have been buried

Not saying they shouldn't have, the original post only seemingly blamed caravella when for my money that isn't fair

[Couscous]

Did very well on the whole against a team that will be tipped for the title.

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[plague]

For me, you're more likely to mis-calculate the shot zenon had. Geronimo's shot, especially when you consider he is a striker who's expectation it was when he came on the pitch was to score a goal, what he did was downright stupidity. He had to have know from the get go that he was recieving that pass, between when it left Montano's boot and hit his he had so much time to line the shot up and figure out what course of action to take, but he still somehow ****ed it up beyond belief. Most probably won't agree, and maybe I felt that way because when zenon missed we were winning and when geronimo did we weren't.
I think your criticism of Geronimo is spot on.
But still, Caravella was 3 yards out.

Griff nails both of them 100 times out of 100.
(Cue Captain Obvious).

[baldrick]

For me, you're more likely to mis-calculate the shot zenon had. Geronimo's shot, especially when you consider he is a striker who's expectation it was when he came on the pitch was to score a goal, what he did was downright stupidity. He had to have know from the get go that he was recieving that pass, between when it left Montano's boot and hit his he had so much time to line the shot up and figure out what course of action to take, but he still somehow ****ed it up beyond belief. Most probably won't agree, and maybe I felt that way because when zenon missed we were winning and when geronimo did we weren't.


Both will feature on Santo, Sam & Ed's "How's the misses ?" prominently this week

[380]

So are we all clear now on the novel idea of playing Pepper in his best position?

Oh, so we all knew that, just not our ex manager.
Cool cool. Carry on lads.


Was there ever any doubt, Only one pubic haired wannabe thought differently.

Thank christ he is a thing of the past.

[Thomas477]

Both should have been buried

This.

[Jeterpool]

Not saying they shouldn't have, the original post only seemingly blamed caravella when for my money that isn't fair

Fair enough. I guess I thought Caravella's miss was more costly, probably for the reasons you mentioned above upon reflection.

[belchardo]

Both will feature on Santo, Sam & Ed's "How's the misses ?" prominently this week

along with paartalu's shot.

[Superdylan]

I thought we were lucky to get a result out of that melbourne were all over us in the first half.

The buzz when we scored was pretty good but. Much slipperiness in the away bay afterwards :rof::rof:

[hausmann]

we got a point and showed some promising attacking play in the second half. Media is reporting it as if David Villa won the game for City but in reality they scraped a draw.

I think Montaño is very industrious at the point of attack. He seems to be asserting himself a bit more with each game. I'm glad he scored yesterday because I don't want to think the Griff is being wasted on the right. it's good to know he can find the back of the net, as well as perform all the distribution work and pressing etc.

[hausmann]

Overall, they are still a work in progress. I think this squad has the potential to be really competitive this year. All depends on the ability of the coaching staff to work on eliminating the errors (such as cheap turnover of the ball) and developing the good aspects that are already in place, rewarding players for effort etc.

[belchardo]

was really impressed with montano.

[Premy]

How long is Celeski out for? If him and Pepper form a good partnership I could see us making the finals.

[lquiquer]

How long is Celeski out for? If him and Pepper form a good partnership I could see us making the finals.
Pretty sure I read 6-7 weeks

[Skirt Boy]

Pretty sure I read 6-8 weeks

Fixed.

[cobra23]

Montano was impressive, he is very neat on the ball and if he can get a little fitter he/we can do some damage..
other than the goal miss caravella played tidy and composed,what we lacked in the first half. he will start over regan next week.
griff was griff. if he dont score he will setup.

[Jeterpool]

Pretty sure I read 6-7 weeks

The commentary during the game said end of the month. Who really knows

[Mark325]

When Regan went off did Pepper drop back into DM? Because surely Caravella wasn't playing there

[MFKS]

Did the Ear bashing Harper copped from our b ay when doing the pre match preview in front of us come through on the telecast??

Zappers and the crew were pissing themselves laughing as Harper copped a roasting

"Hey Andy tell the viewers about how you missed those penalties"

[cobra23]

When Regan went off did Pepper drop back into DM? Because surely Caravella wasn't playing there

So whats your point. Caravella was more comfortable all the ball than regan was, regardless where he played.
it should only be 1 of the 2 regan or pepper on the park in the mid position.. and at the moment pepper is doing a better job. caravella should be playing the other spot until celeski is back and then look at options from there.

[belchardo]

Did the Ear bashing Harper copped from our b ay when doing the pre match preview in front of us come through on the telecast??

Zappers and the crew were pissing themselves laughing as Harper copped a roasting

"Hey Andy tell the viewers about how you missed those penalties"

didn't hear what the crowd was calling, but they did mention the "andy harper fan club"

[leftrightout]

The commentary during the game said end of the month. Who really knows

Yeah the commentary said the jets were expecting to have everyone back training by the end of this month.

[Grimario]

So whats your point. Caravella was more comfortable all the ball than regan was, regardless where he played.
it should only be 1 of the 2 regan or pepper on the park in the mid position.. and at the moment pepper is doing a better job. caravella should be playing the other spot until celeski is back and then look at options from there.

I think his point is that they are two different roles regardless of being the same position.


IMO, Regan wasn't as bad as I imagined he was going to be (didn't see last week). He does the simple stuff that Kanta SHOULD be doing instead of trying his hollywood passes to nobody/opposition.

[belchardo]

regan is really impressing me in mid. Jobe 2.0. just gets stuck in, does what he needs to do and covers well.

[pv4]

God I miss Jobe

[sammydog]

regan is really impressing me in mid. Jobe 2.0. just gets stuck in, does what he needs to do and covers well.

Both Regan and Pepper are impressing me. Both have really stepped up which is great. Once Caravella came on though, I think we looked to be a better team. Big call for Stubbins next week to decide which one goes to the bench as they have all put a pretty good case forward to start.

[MFKS]

regan is really impressing me in mid. Jobe 2.0. just gets stuck in, does what he needs to do and covers well.
Defensively he will always go good in that aspect.

What though does concern me is far to often the ball ends up at his feet and he needs to play the first pass to start an attack. This area is not his strongest suit.

On another note how ****ing good is Pepper looking in CM??
If only GVE hadn't of wasted 2 years trying to turn him into a fullback


Some things that did impress me was the resolve of the side. We didn't have the best game in a scintillating performance but gritted our teeth and soldiered on and took a lead and if we hadn't of butchered a couple of chances we win the game.

That is exactly how we need to play on the road. Keep it tight sit and absorb then push forward and hammer on the counter. It is only early days but the signs are we are turning some type of corner.

Also we seem to have more and more blokes buying into the Newy thing. Griff is schooling the blokes well. Directs Montana to the away bay after scoring. Gives the away support a round of applause when getting subbed off.

Steele although frustrating some of you blokes with his touches actually does look like he gives a **** and wants to be here emphasised by the fist pumps to the crowd and enthusiasm he is trying to generate. Marcos also seems to get what Newy is

The team effort to get their arses over to the away bay quickly and thank their fans was also good.
It actually felt real and had genuine two way meaning and not like they were going through the motions.

Promising Signs

[Rocknerd]

Loved the match, was enjoyable. Newcastle proving that they still need to have more than a 1 goal lead to win matches though. I predicted less than 27 points total for the season, if we can continue to improve and not play any worse than we did against the Gypos, we'll be good for maybe 10 more points.
#forever7th

[leftrightout]

Defensively he will always go good in that aspect.

What though does concern me is far to often the ball ends up at his feet and he needs to play the first pass to start an attack. This area is not his strongest suit.

On another note how ****ing good is Pepper looking in CM??
If only GVE hadn't of wasted 2 years trying to turn him into a fullback


Some things that did impress me was the resolve of the side. We didn't have the best game in a scintillating performance but gritted our teeth and soldiered on and took a lead and if we hadn't of butchered a couple of chances we win the game.

That is exactly how we need to play on the road. Keep it tight sit and absorb then push forward and hammer on the counter. It is only early days but the signs are we are turning some type of corner.

Also we seem to have more and more blokes buying into the Newy thing. Griff is schooling the blokes well. Directs Montana to the away bay after scoring. Gives the away support a round of applause when getting subbed off.

Steele although frustrating some of you blokes with his touches actually does look like he gives a **** and wants to be here emphasised by the fist pumps to the crowd and enthusiasm he is trying to generate. Marcos also seems to get what Newy is

The team effort to get their arses over to the away bay quickly and thank their fans was also good.
It actually felt real and had genuine two way meaning and not like they were going through the motions.

Promising Signs

Good to hear they got over to see the fans again. Last week they walked over to clap and i noticed Kew actually signaled for all player to get right over to the fans at the fence.
It goes a long way in bonding a team with its fans and with that can bring some kind of togetherness that has been missing for a while now.

[sammydog]

Good to hear they got over to see the fans again. Last week they walked over to clap and i noticed Kew actually signaled for all player to get right over to the fans at the fence.
It goes a long way in bonding a team with its fans and with that can bring some kind of togetherness that has been missing for a while now.

That really is something we have missed for a long time. You watch other teams score and the players are straight into the fence. We always seem to hang back, if thats changing then thats another promising sign and will go along way to having the fans connect with the players on the pitch.

[pv4]

How good is it to have someone on the wing who can actually cross, I love it.

Steele put in a couple of decent crosses, first that comes to memory is what seemed too floating to Jeronimo that turned into Caravella's sitter.

And Griff with the assist for the goal - phwoar.

[MFKS]

Griff led the way and all bar Montana and Flores were there right behind him and they soon joined in.

Montana even gave his shirt away. Went and grabbed the bib from Flores and slipped it on and looked back to the bench to make sure no one was watching and gave the shirt away to some blokes in Ecuador shirts

The good thing with it was that it was also reasonably quick after FT. The handshakes had barely been done with the Heart players and they were on their way over. They didn't huddle about on the pitch wondering what to do they charged over and even did not look sheepish about it like they were going through the motions.

As I said it all appeared genuine

[lquiquer]

He sure did but the question is: Will he be told not to do that again?
Wasn't there an issue in season 2 when some of our players threw their shirt into the crowd?
868

[GazFish35]

He sure did but the question is: Will he be told not to do that again?
Wasn't there an issue in season 2 when some of our players threw their shirt into the crowd?
868


That was with con paying the bills.
Now we have........

[Mark325]

Only thing that needs to change next week is a bit of a re-shuffling of players. I feel like the 4-5-1 we played wasn't quite ideal for our squad, with 4-2-3-1 being the more likely option. Something like this for next week would make more sense to me:

Birraz
Neville - Jaliens - Gallagher - Carney
Pepper - Caravella
Griff - Flores - Steele
Montano

Subs: Solari, Regan, Kanta, Hoole, Geronimo

[Beeen]

Carney was brilliant. His first 7 or 8 touches of the ball were successfully played to Melbourne City players. 'Onya Dave

[MFKS]

Only thing that needs to change next week is a bit of a re-shuffling of players. I feel like the 4-5-1 we played wasn't quite ideal for our squad, with 4-2-3-1 being the more likely option. Something like this for next week would make more sense to me:

Birraz
Neville - Jaliens - Gallagher - Carney
Pepper - Caravella
Griff - Flores - Steele
Montano

Subs: Solari, Regan, Kanta, Hoole, Geronimo

Not wishing to cause an argument here but isn't the formation thing a load of complete shite anyway??

4-2-3-1 quickly becomes 4-5-1 when you are under the pump and also goes to 4-2-1-3 when you have the ascendancy.

I beg to differ about the 4-5-1 not being ideal for our squad. When we are playing away from home we should have the express intention of parking the bus making life hard for our opponent and hitting on the counter. It nearly worked for us quite well yesterday. History shows last season when we did that to Brisbane Adelaide WSW away we were quite successful at it.

Reality is playing that way will
a keep us in more games
b get better results long term

[Mark325]

Not wishing to cause an argument here but isn't the formation thing a load of complete shite anyway??

4-2-3-1 quickly becomes 4-5-1 when you are under the pump and also goes to 4-2-1-3 when you have the ascendancy.

I beg to differ about the 4-5-1 not being ideal for our squad. When we are playing away from home we should have the express intention of parking the bus making life hard for our opponent and hitting on the counter. It nearly worked for us quite well yesterday. History shows last season when we did that to Brisbane Adelaide WSW away we were quite successful at it.

Reality is playing that way will
a keep us in more games
b get better results long term

May not be wrong honestly, I was thinking more about guys like griff being a bit further up the park as a RW then he would be at RM. In saying that you're park the bus philosophy I guess does make sense for us. I more harp on shit like formations because I just love thinking about different ways our squad can line-up. As sad as it seems stuff like that if more for my own amusement of making them then anything else

[MFKS]

May not be wrong honestly, I was thinking more about guys like griff being a bit further up the park as a RW then he would be at RM. In saying that you're park the bus philosophy I guess does make sense for us. I more harp on shit like formations because I just love thinking about different ways our squad can line-up. As sad as it seems stuff like that if more for my own amusement of making them then anything else

Unfortunately the days of playing 2 genuine strikers seems a thing of the past. The modern tactic is one up front and having blokes overload midfield to try and rush forward and play into the space left by only having one bloke in the front line. Unfortunately the days of the 4-4-2 are basically extinct and may never return until someone reinvents the wheel how the game is played.

Agree Griff is wasted playing Right Mid Would love to see him played up front and would love to see us play 2 up front.

Thing with it is that until either Hooley or Virgili step up he is still our best option at Right Mid

Did notice at the airport last night that Hooley though was hanging with the Griff and absorbing the Great Ones wisdom so the future is looking bright

[Imyourhero]

Hoole Hoole Goole Groole Grile Grife Griff

[borat]

I thought Stubbins made a couple of tactical mistakes with his line up, particularly in the first half.

Having watched the MC v SFC game in rd 1 it was obvious that MC would dominate possession and we would need to press at the right moments. Therefore this was not the game to start Flores who is still considerably short of a run. The days of Griff being a RW are surely over and IMO he struggled defensively which killed his attack.

I would have kept Griff at AM, Flores on the bench and Hoole at RW.

Regan didn't do too badly if you consider the work he had to do. Caravella should take that position but I doubt he was fit enough against City.

Gallagher has been very impressive and I can see Madaschi struggling to get this spot back.

Montano also looks the goods and may well start all year

[borat]

I would also like to see Steele and Carney swap positions. Carney is a more effective crosser of the ball and I can see Montano benefitting from his service.

Carney also doesn't have the legs he used to so Steele ends up covering for him for large parts of the game anyway.

[Hunter403]

I would also like to see Steele and Carney swap positions. Carney is a more effective crosser of the ball and I can see Montano benefitting from his service.


Carney also doesn't have the legs he used to so Steele ends up covering for him for large parts of the game anyway.

The only problem I see with that is that Steele is either overly aggressive or a little clumsy in the tackle and gives away a few free kicks. Not so bad up field but asking for trouble in back third.

Agree with Borat on playing Griff wide. He's better in the thick of the action.

[Couscous]

I think Borat is wise.

[WolfMan]

Gallagher has been very impressive and I can see Madaschi struggling to get this spot back.



Was just voicing this yesterday after watching the replay.

At worst, Madaschi should only come off the bench until he is more match-fit. Pretty hard to justify giving Gallagher the hook when he has been sound at the back.

[MFKS]

Can see one of them playing left back and the other CD to free Carney forward as a possible option

[MFKS]

Just watched the game again and couple of things that I noticed.

Our left side is our biggest strength and weakness.

We are getting some quality play down that side from time to time but far too many times both Steele and Carney got both caught up the field and it was left to Gallagher to play both left back and CD

I also noticed that far too often our left back was in advanced positions for **** knows what reason. When Caravella missed the sitter Carney was right behind it and in the box. Considering the move was quickly put together from the moment we won the ball and Caravella butchered the chance the reason for Carney being there is baffling as he ain't holding his position to be around the 6yard box at this time

FFS I lost count of the amount of times Steele gave the ball away needlessly but it was defo in double figures.

Montano looks a great pick up. Considering he got **** all ball for the vast part of the game the quality when he got it stood out.

The bloke also got through a power of running defensively that may not have been noticed. I am gonna go out on a limb and say we need to make this blokes move permanent NOW

The refereeing is still shit. Would love to know how we have 8 yellows this season and our opponents have 0

Last week Montgomery 4 fouls no yellow
This week Williams 3 fouls no yellow.
Our blokes get yellow for sweet **** all

Why Villa wasn't booked for his blatant dive in the box is disgraceful when the prick Gillette kept booking us for petty shit at free kicks

[Serd1]

We were out played, but almost snuck away with the point....
The effort was there all game, they just out passed us...

[Jeterpool]

Phoenix v Jets preview: Sunday 26 October, 2014

By JAMES GARDINER
Oct. 24, 2014, 10:30 a.m.

► The Lowedown blog: As it happened with David Lowe

PHOENIX v JETS


Westpac Stadium, Sunday 26 October, 3pm.

PAST TWO STARTS

Phoenix: Won Mariners 2-1 (A), Lost Glory 2-1 (H)

Jets: Drew City 1-1 (A), Lost Mariners 1-0 (A)

Referee: Chris Beath TV: Fox Sports 1

TAB: Championship – Phoenix $21 Jets $17

Wooden spoon – Phoenix $3.50 Jets $4.25

This game – Phoenix $2.05 Draw $3.40 Jets $3.30

Michael McGlinchey for the Phoenix in action.
Michael McGlinchey for the Phoenix in action.

PHOENIX1 Glen Moss (GK), 2 Manny Muscat, 4 Roly Bonevacia, 5 Michael Boxall, 7 Kenny Cunningham, 8 Alex Rodriguez, 9 Nathan Burns, 10 Michael McGlinchey, 11 Jeremy Brockie, 13 Albert Riera, 16 Louis Fenton, 17 Vince Lia, 18 Ben Sigmund, 19 Tom Doyle, 20 Lewis Italiano (GK), 21 Roy Krishna, 22 Andrew Durante (c), 23 Matthew Ridenton (two to be omitted) INS: 21 Roy Krishna (promoted), 23 Matthew Ridenton (promoted) OUTS: Nil UNAVAILABLE: Nil

JETS1 Mark Birighitti (GK), 2 Scott Neville, 3 Taylor Regan, 4 Kew Jaliens (c), 5 Ben Kantarovski, 7 Jeronimo Neumann, 8 Zenon Caravella, 9 Joel Griffiths, 10 Marcos Flores, 11 Andrew Hoole, 12 Sam Gallagher, 13 Edson Montaño, 16 Jacob Pepper, 17 James Virgili, 20 Ben Kennedy (GK), 21 Sam Gallaway, 22 Jonny Steele, 23 David Carney (two to be omitted) INS: 5 Ben Kantarovski (promoted), 20 Ben Kennedy (GK) (illness), 21 Sam Gallaway (promoted) OUTS: 30 John Solari (GK) UNAVAILABLE: 6 Adrian Madaschi (calf– 1-2 weeks), 14 Billy Celeski (groin – 4-6 weeks), 15 Josh Barresi (knee – season), 19 Mitch Cooper (knee – 4-6 weeks)

Picture: Max Mason-Hubers
Picture: Max Mason-Hubers

BOTTOM LINE

Wellington have the wood on the Jets, winning 13 of 22 contests.

At home they have been even more dominant, taking maximum points in eight out of 12 games.

The Jets’ most recent win in New Zealand was in February 2013.

The last two games have produced five goals.

The Jets won 5-0 at home in March and were beaten 3-2 away in February.

Phoenix’s 2-1 win over the Mariners ended a five-game losing streak and was their first win in eight games.

The Kiwis have lost three straight at home.

They have never lost four in a row.

TO WIN: Jets

nf.net preview > Herald. :tongue: :whistling:

[hawk]

FFS I lost count of the amount of times Steele gave the ball away needlessly but it was defo in double figures.

pretty hard not to notice this the 1st time. Tries hard though and could improve.