James Virgili

[pv4]

What are your thoughts on him?

[pv4]

Enters the field of play and Perth score their winner a minute later - coincidence?

[sammydog]

Can you blame a player from the attacking third for the goals?

[MFKS]

Can you blame a player from the attacking third for the goals?
FFS WLG at least try blaming BK Gallaway or Birraz and stick to the usual suspects

[Scourge]

Should never have been renewed... Not good enough to be in the Aleague... Always runs to the right, is predictable as heck...

No offence to the guy, is a local player, but with all the younger guys waiting in the wings, he is a waste of a squad spot...

[Thomas477]

Crap, but that suits the ambition of the club. Existing is good enough.

[pv4]

FFS WLG at least try blaming BK Gallaway or Birraz and stick to the usual suspects

I haven't blamed anyone for anything.

[plague]

5 star thread.
Seems like a nice bloke.
Sign him up Stubbs.

[joel31]

Nice guy but not A-League level

[Hunter403]

Virgin. Still hasn't scored

[Jetmaster]

Unless he does something miraculous, like score a goal, we shan't see him next season.

[hawk]

Unless he does something miraculous, like score a goal, we shan't see him next season.

we keep blokes like that. 5y contract

[380]

NPL at best on a good day, Not on his own though, The imposter from Coffs also falls into this category.

[The Dunster]

You haven't seen much of him then.
Chilli owns defenders at NPL level. He's plenty good enough to play A-league but for reasons unknown he's not been able to make the transition.

[Jeterpool]

What are your thoughts on him?

I think it's a big year for James. He is off contract at the end of the year and he needs to start producing some goods to earn a new deal, in my opinion. 1 assist and 0 goals from 50+ appearances is not what we're looking for from someone in his position.

At youth level he can utilise his biggest asset, which is his speed. Unfortunately at HAL level it doesn't work. Defenders are more experienced and stronger than James and have worked out that every time he goes to his right.

If he is to cut it at HAL level, he may need to reconsider his role as a RW. Perhaps a RB would be better suited to him?

[380]

You haven't seen much of him then.
Chilli owns defenders at NPL level. He's plenty good enough to play A-league but for reasons unknown he's not been able to make the transition.


Seen enough to know he may very well own defenders in NPL but has failed at HAL. Not the first to be unable to make the step up and will not be the last.

How many other clubs would line up for his services if he was available ?. IMO none would so that tells me all i need to know.

[pv4]

How many other clubs would line up for his services if he was available ?. IMO none would so that tells me all i need to know.

Do others agree with this?

[Jeterpool]

Do others agree with this?

Clubs need squaddies. Look at Hoffman - showed a little bit of promise and got a gig with Heart. He changed his position and now is a regular.

I think he'd get picked up by a club.

[MFKS]

The blokes the victim of a lack of confidence and shit coaching at this level. Gets in the team from good form in the NYL and doesn't carve it up and it is straight out the door every ****ing time.

Also feel he is poorly utilised and we should particularly when playing away or leading play him as a striker trying to beat the offside trap. If he gets running and there is space and the ball is played reasonably well he will run away from blokes 99 times out of a hundred. He could well be a great asset to us with counter attacking play if utilised correctly

[GazFish35]

Wonder what big Punxstawney Phil thinks of him?

[borat]

The blokes the victim of a lack of confidence and shit coaching at this level. Gets in the team from good form in the NYL and doesn't carve it up and it is straight out the door every ****ing time.

Also feel he is poorly utilised and we should particularly when playing away or leading play him as a striker trying to beat the offside trap. If he gets running and there is space and the ball is played reasonably well he will run away from blokes 99 times out of a hundred. He could well be a great asset to us with counter attacking play if utilised correctly

Seriously this is the lamest excuse I have ever seen.

Despite numerous opportunities to prove himself, Chilli is found wanting every single time.

The only mistake Chillis coaches have made is to continually select Chilli and sign Chilli. How we don't learn from making this same mistake over and over is the real question

[MFKS]

Seriously this is the lamest excuse I have ever seen.

Despite numerous opportunities to prove himself, Chilli is found wanting every single time.

The only mistake Chillis coaches have made is to continually select Chilli and sign Chilli. How we don't learn from making this same mistake over and over is the real question

So I take it you consider and opportunity as 60 mins in the starting line up to only get subbed off cause he hasn't scored or carved it up and not be seen again for another 4-18 games??

Until the bloke is given an extended run in the side to settle in bit hard to say he can't hack it at this level.

Those who reckon he is just an NPL player only are full of shit. He ****ing killed it at that level with the Jets Yoof a couple of years ago and would kill it again.

The bloke has not had an extended settled run in the side without the coach making him a scapegoat every time he doesn't play like he is Messi

[BodyNovo]

So I take it you consider and opportunity as 60 mins in the starting line up to only get subbed off cause he hasn't scored or carved it up and not be seen again for another 4-18 games??

Until the bloke is given an extended run in the side to settle in bit hard to say he can't hack it at this level.

Those who reckon he is just an NPL player only are full of shit. He ****ing killed it at that level with the Jets Yoof a couple of years ago and would kill it again.

The bloke has not had an extended settled run in the side without the coach making him a scapegoat every time he doesn't play like he is Messi

agree

He has never been given a run in the first team. Would love to see what his longest run in the starting eleven was.

Give him 5 games in the starting eleven and I bet we would see a different player

+ newy boy❤️

[belchardo]

Give me 5 games in the starting 11 and I'd get better too. Still doesn't mean I'd be any good.

He's been there for 3 managers now? Even if it's only 2, there appears to be a pattern that coaches don't rate him that highly.

[MFKS]

Give me 5 games in the starting 11 and I'd get better too. Still doesn't mean I'd be any good.

He's been there for 3 managers now? Even if it's only 2, there appears to be a pattern that coaches don't rate him that highly.

Considering the standard of the coaches he has had though makes how they rate him irrelevant.

Remember the same clowns can't get us to win games and every player we release becomes a star elsewhere (Topor Labi Abbas Elrich etc) So exactly what are their credentials to make the judgement he can't play??


Hardly compelling evidence that the bloke can not play

[pv4]

He has never been given a run in the first team. Would love to see what his longest run in the starting eleven was.

Paging Mr StatsMan - do you have this information?

[Jeterpool]

It looks like he got a run of 6 starts between 14/12/12 and 12/1/13. He came on at the 70 and 60 minute mark the 2 weeks before and he played 90 minutes in each of those matches. He then made another start and 5 substitute appearances in the 6 matches following that as well.

So I'd say he was involved in 14 games straight

And do I need to now create a multi called Mr Statsman?

[pv4]

It looks like he got a run of 6 starts between 14/12/12 and 12/1/13. He came on at the 70 and 60 minute mark the 2 weeks before and he played 90 minutes in each of those matches. He then made another start and 5 substitute appearances in the 6 matches following that as well.

So I'd say he was involved in 14 games straight

And do I need to now create a multi called Mr Statsman?

I wonder why he was dropped after 14 straight games. Or did that run of games see out the season?

[pv4]

If he is to cut it at HAL level, he may need to reconsider his role as a RW. Perhaps a RB would be better suited to him?

Does anyone else think similar?

MFAW mentioned putting him as a ST.

What position do people see Virgili most likely to "make it" at HAL level?

[Grimario]

Does anyone else think similar?

MFAW mentioned putting him as a ST.

What position do people see Virgili most likely to "make it" at HAL level?

Ball boy.

[Jeterpool]

I wonder why he was dropped after 14 straight games. Or did that run of games see out the season?

We were talking about a streak of games. He played additional games following that.

[380]

Does anyone else think similar?

MFAW mentioned putting him as a ST.

What position do people see Virgili most likely to "make it" at HAL level?



Orange Peeler

[joel31]

not a striker can't finish
i could see him as a winger, if he adapts his game to become less predictable and improves his passing, crossing and finishing
His pace would help him at right back if he learnt to defend

[Nou Camp]

seems to be stuck in the middle of some sorts
plays youth does really well and you think he could play a league easy, plays a league but doesnt look right

if it were a big competition in europe his the player youd send out on loan to a half decent team for 1 or 2 years to build and play regular competitive games

[Thomas477]

Orange Peeler

Plastic chair.

[380]

Plastic chair.


Under GVE he would be at great risk of having the shit kicked out of him as a plastic chair ?. I like it

[Thomas477]

Under GVE he would be at great risk of having the shit kicked out of him as a plastic chair ?. I like it

:lulz:

[The Dunster]

not a striker can't finish

I don't think you have seen enough of him. Virgilli has scored goals for the youth teams and for the Jets in trial games as well.

Saying Virgilli can't finish based on his A-league record is like saying Scott Macdonald can't finish based on his Socceroos stats.

I look forward to Chilli banging in a few and proving the doubters wrong.

[parksey]

play him up front against a tiring defence

[MFKS]

play him up front against a tiring defence
Great Minds think alike!!!!!!:sup:

[plague]

I wonder why he was dropped after 14 straight games. Or did that run of games see out the season?

I guess the same thinking that saw BK get dropped after a string of games (that were arguably our best run of games last season).

Ergo: coaches just do shit because coaches.

[MFKS]

I guess the same thinking that saw BK get dropped after a string of games (that were arguably our best run of games last season).

Ergo: coaches just do shit because coaches.

BK got dropped cause we got a new coach who saw that Birraz was the better keeper and acted accordingly :grin:

[Thomas477]

+1, and you forget that bk played in our abortion of a FFA cup 'run'.

[plague]

BK got dropped cause we got a new coach who saw that Birraz was the better keeper and acted accordingly :grin:

So the same coaching staff have the same opinion of Virgilli yet you take the opposite viewpoint.

If you posted half as much you'd make twice as much sense.

[MFKS]

So the same coaching staff have the same opinion of Virgilli yet you take the opposite viewpoint.

If you posted half as much you'd make twice as much sense.
My view point tends to fluctuate on the direction the wind blows from

Just not missing the opportunity here to drop the truth bomb for the BK Fanbois:tongue:

[Premy]

I'm not quite a BK fanboi, I just don't understand why Brizza doesn't cope the same blasting for arguably bigger F ups. I feel the BK bashers look at Birraz with rose color glasses on because BK is the only other option.

I hope that made sense.

[GazFish35]

Who are the bk fanboi's?

Deadset there's twos camps on this whol argument.

Camp1
Birraz is god who's shit smells like rose tea and BK stands for butterfingers katasrophy.

Camp2
Both keepers are solid in some aspects, weak in others, on the whole Birraz probably pips BK but on his day BK can pip Birraz, let's treat them both to the same level of scrutiny.




Oh, and Covic should have held that 'save of the century'

[hawk]

geez i thought this was the keepers thread

[pv4]

geez i thought this was the keepers thread

I did name it "James Virgili" in the hope that it became a BKvsBiraz thread. Job well done.

[The Dunster]

BK got dropped cause we got a new coach who saw that Birraz was the better keeper and acted accordingly :grin:

Is this the same bloke that thinks Griffo is a Right Midfielder ?

[BodyNovo]

Who are the bk fanboi's?

Deadset there's twos camps on this whol argument.

Camp1
Birraz is god who's shit smells like rose tea and BK stands for butterfingers katasrophy.

Camp2
Both keepers are solid in some aspects, weak in others, on the whole Birraz probably pips BK but on his day BK can pip Birraz, let's treat them both to the same level of scrutiny.




Oh, and Covic should have held that 'save of the century'

i'm a bk fanboi

[plague]

I love everybody.
Except Middleby.
**** Middleby.

[Jeterpool]

If he is to cut it at HAL level, he may need to reconsider his role as a RW. Perhaps a RB would be better suited to him?

Member isn't the only visionary. Granted he was more a wing back.

Played really well today

[parksey]

the king

[Hunter403]

Best game he has played in ages. Positioninally needs to learn but his speed was a positive factor. Give Stubbins his due: he got that right.

[The Dunster]

After watching Chilli work his magic in youth league and in the State league comp for the Jets youth I was very happy that others finally got to see just how good this kid can be.

The big question is will we be able to play with a back three to accommodate him ?

[hawk]

Give Stubbins his due: he got that right.

he got lucky

[Tommyjet]

After watching Chilli work his magic in youth league and in the State league comp for the Jets youth I was very happy that others finally got to see just how good this kid can be.

The big question is will we be able to play with a back three to accommodate him ?

If we can against Adelaide we can do it against any one that plays a 433 or a 4231. Not sure how it would go against Sydney when they switch to a 442. I know it would work, but they need to work on there positioning and marking.

[redwah]

Probably helps having a coach tell him to run forward, use his speed and cross it into the box....unlike The last coach who thought it a good idea to tell his players how shit they were*


*an assumption ( he couldn't have possibly be telling them anything else)