Rd 5 Newcastle Jets Vs Melbourne Victory 08/11/14 k/off 5:00pm AEDST

[Jeterpool]

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2014/2015 Hyundai A-League
Season 10 Round 5
Newcastle United Jets FC vs Melbourne Victory FC

When: Saturday 11th November, 2014
Where: Hunter Stadium, 294 Turton Road, New Lambton, NSW
Kickoff: 5pm AEDST (gates open 4pm)
Tickets: Ticketmaster Link
Pre-match: District Park Tennis Club, Cnr Lambton and Curley Rds Broadmeadow from 2pm

Watch: LIVE on Foxsports 4 and FoxSports 4HD
Listen: ABC Newcastle 1233 or ABC Grandstand online
Tweet: @newyboys #NTUA #NEWvMVC

Supporters are reminded that active support is located to Bay 60. Anyone wishing to join Bay 60 for this game needs to hold a Bay 60 Membership or purchase a ticket via ticketmaster or the sales windows behind the Western Stand. People with existing memberships in other areas of the stadium can also swap for a single Bay 60 game ticket at the ticket window behind the Western Stand.

2014/15 A-League Round 5 Preview – Newcastle Jets v Melbourne Victory


FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 27 games between the two teams.
Jets Wins – 12, Victory Wins – 9, Drawn – 6


In Newcastle – 13 games
Jets Wins – 7, Victory Wins – 2, Drawn – 4

Average Home A-League crowd – 10570

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 40, Victory – 40

Cards in Fixture
Jets – 48 (44 Yellow, 4 Red), Victory – 44 (41 Yellow, 3 Red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets – LLDLL
Victory – WLWDW

Leading Scorers
Jets – Edson Montano, Joel Griffiths, Jeronimo Neumann 1, Victory – Besart Berisha - 4

Last Result -
Jets 2 (Taggart 18’, Leijer 22’o.g) – Victory 2 (Milligan 21’, Milligan 86’ pen) at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 26, 05/04/2014 .


FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Bridge 36’, Bridge 48’, Coveny 51’, J Griffiths 73’) – Victory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 21, Season 2, 19/01/2007.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Victory 5 (Hernandez 41’, Thompson 45’, Allsopp 61’, Allsopp 64’, Brebner 90’), Round 3, Season 4 at AAMI Park, 29/08/2008.
Jets 0 – 5 (Rojas 8’, Leijer 15’, Milligan 30’ pen, Milligan 55’ pen, Rojas 66’), Round 23, Season 8, 03/03/2013

Leading Scorers in fixture –

Jets – 4 (Joel Griffiths, Ryan Griffiths, Labinot Haliti and Matthew Thompson)
Victory – 7 (Archie Thompson)


2014/15 SEASON STATISTICS

Appearances

4 Mark Birrighiti, Kew Jaliens, Sam Gallagher, David Carney, Jacob Pepper, Joel Griffiths, Edson Montano, Andrew Hoole, Jeronimo Neumann
3 Scott Neville, Taylor Regan, James Virgili, Zenon Caravella, Marco Flores
2 Jonny Steele,
1 Sam Gallaway, Allan Wesh, Ben Kantarovski



Goals

1 Edson Montano, Joel Griffiths, Jeronimo Neumann



Assists

1 Joel Griffiths, Scott Neville, Jacob Pepper



Yellow Cards

2 Taylor Regan, Jeronimo Neumann, Jacob Pepper
1 Marcos Flores, Jonny Steele, Kew Jaliens, Edson Montano, David Carney



Red Cards

None


COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Phil Stubbins - 0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses
Kevin Muscat - 0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Phil Stubbins - 0 Matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 loss = -% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (10 wins, 2 drawn and 4 losses = 19% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 wins, 2 drawn, 3 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - 0 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = -% win ratio)

Melbourne Victory Coach Record – Kevin Muscat 25% win ratio (1 win, 2 drawn, 1 loss).


KEY FACTS:

The Jets haven’t lost to Melbourne in the last 6 matches in Newcastle. The last loss was in Season 5.
The Jets haven’t kept a clean sheet in the last 11 matches against Melbourne Victory.
The Jets have NEVER been behind at half time at home in this fixture.
The Victory have only scored 3 first half goals in Newcastle.
Nathan Coe hasn’t kept a clean sheet at Hunter Stadium, and only kept 1 clean sheet in 6 appearances against the Jets.
Ben Kennedy has kept 2 clean sheets against Melbourne in 10 appearances, while Mark Birighitti is yet to keep a clean sheet in 5 appearances. Kennedy has conceded an average of 1.5 goals per match, while Birighitti has conceded 2.2 per match.
Jeronimo Neumann became the 52nd A-League scorer for the Newcastle Jets last weekend.
The Jets, on average, score a goal in the first half at home.
Newcastle have never lost at home to the Victory on a Saturday.
Both matches in Newcastle when Kevin Muscat has coached have been drawn.
There has been a Melbourne Victory own goal in their last two visits to Hunter Stadium.
There have been 2 or more goals scored in the last 11 fixtures between these clubs.
The Jets have scored the first goal in the last 3 meetings.
The Jets have only received 2 penalties against the Victory, converting one. The Victory, however, have received 5.
This weekend will be Mark Birighitti’s 50th appearance for the Jets.


Jets v Victory Trivia:
1. Adam, Joel or Ryan – Who has the most bookings, and how many have they had, in this fixture?

2. Who is the only Jets player to have missed a penalty against the Victory?

3. Keeper Condundrum – Who has kept the most clean sheets against the Victory during their time wit h the Jets – Liam Reddy, Ante Covic or Ben Kennedy?

[BodyNovo]

2. zura, (ps jesics goal)

[Thomas477]

Loose 4 nil.

[Mitchy]

2. zura, (ps jesics goal)

What a night

[belchardo]

loose, in a big way.

[parksey]

3. ante covic

[MFKS]

Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches >> 10 wins, 2 drawn and 4 losses

Any chance we can get him to coach the side for this week only??

[Superdylan]

Alot more confident we can get a result in this game.

Being back at home will help with the players confidence I'd like to think. Abit of a daunting task being away from home for the first 4 games.

I'm predicting a 1-1 draw in this fixture. Victory will probably score a late equalizer.

[Rocknerd]

We'll either foul Victory to a stalemate or lose like we did against Nux.
Perhaps our first 5 nil.
We might have a chance if Phil plays everyone in their actual roles instead of all rhese players out of position

[Grimario]

We might have a chance if Phil plays everyone in their actual roles instead of all rhese players out of position

Nah mate, Carney is a nailed on creative attacking midfielder, Pepper is a killer right back and Griff is best right mid in the league.

[belchardo]

will be interesting to see if steele has recovered from his calf injury.

[q-money]

#RIPnewy

[Grimario]

Anything better than a 5-0 is a success this weekend.

[MFKS]

Anything better than a 5-0 is a success this weekend.

That was last weekend.

This weekend anything less than a win is not ****ing good enough.

They are only ****ing Victorians after all

[Couscous]

Usually a difficult game for me, emotionally. But this time I unambiguously want a Jets win. And I want Steele to play, too.

[hawk]

Alot more confident we can get a result in this game.

.

yep, a loss is a result. Although We do have decent stats against rectumry. up 3-0

[pv4]

I got on us to win at $3.30. For no reason whatsoever I'm confident of a result this weekend :rof:

[Hunter403]

Let's have a positive outlook check - yes, I'm positive the Jets will lose

[belchardo]

I'm positive our fans will be left frustrated, bemused and despondent after the game.

[MFKS]

I'm positive our fans will be left frustrated, bemused and despondent after the game.

Umm I thought that was how you felt after watching football??

Happens to me every week

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Hopefully Pepper comes back into the centre of midfield, with Neville back in at RB.

[Blackmac79]

11:40am 2 days before the game and players are sipping lattes at a cafe.


Train you mother ****ers

[Grimario]

11:40am 2 days before the game and players are sipping lattes at a cafe.


Train you mother ****ers

Sports science, mate. Too much training is bad for your something.

[Grimario]

Newcastle Jets squad: 1.Mark BIRIGHITTI (GK), 2.Scott NEVILLE, 3.Taylor REGAN, 4.Kew JALIENS (c), 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI, 7.Jeronimo NEUMANN, 8.Zenon CARAVELLA, 9.Joel GRIFFITHS, 10.Marcos FLORES, 11.Andrew HOOLE, 12.Sam GALLAGHER, 13.Edson MONTANO, 16.Jacob PEPPER, 17.James VIRGILI, 18.Allan WELSH, 20.Ben KENNEDY (GK), 21.Sam GALLAWAY, 23.David CARNEY
***two to be omitted***
Ins: 2.Scott NEVILLE (returns from being rested), 10. Marcos FLORES (returns from being rested).
Outs: Nil.
Unavailable: 14.Billy CELESKI (groin – 1-2 weeks), 15.Josh BARRESI (knee – season), 22. Jonny STEELE (leave of absence).

Read more at http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/jets-name-squad-for-home-opener/35f457mxoyr81asv7q55qpqxk#gOPvyYh8yltbooXi.99

[pv4]

Newcastle Jets squad: 1.Mark BIRIGHITTI (GK), 2.Scott NEVILLE, 3.Taylor REGAN, 4.Kew JALIENS (c), 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI, 7.Jeronimo NEUMANN, 8.Zenon CARAVELLA, 9.Joel GRIFFITHS, 10.Marcos FLORES, 11.Andrew HOOLE, 12.Sam GALLAGHER, 13.Edson MONTANO, 16.Jacob PEPPER, 17.James VIRGILI, 18.Allan WELSH, 20.Ben KENNEDY (GK), 21.Sam GALLAWAY, 23.David CARNEY
***two to be omitted***
Ins: 2.Scott NEVILLE (returns from being rested), 10. Marcos FLORES (returns from being rested).
Outs: Nil.
Unavailable: 14.Billy CELESKI (groin – 1-2 weeks), 15.Josh BARRESI (knee – season), 22. Jonny STEELE (leave of absence).

Read more at http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/jets-name-squad-for-home-opener/35f457mxoyr81asv7q55qpqxk#gOPvyYh8yltbooXi.99

Is Madaschi just not included in the squad at all now?

[lquiquer]

11:40am 2 days before the game and players are sipping lattes at a cafe.
Train you mother ****ers

889

[BodyNovo]

meh none were at argyle last night.

[The Dunster]

Stubbins has said that it is good to have competition between players for positions. But what about coaches ? I mean how ****ing poorly does Stubbins have to do before he gets boned ?

[Mitchy]

meh none were at argyle last night.

Biggest issue here

[Jeterpool]

Is Madaschi just not included in the squad at all now?

Maybe he's declared fit, like Cooper? He's simply omitted.

[furns]

added match details to OP

[outsider]

Strebre Delovski

[Jeterpool]

THE REFEREE: – Strebre Delovski

The W-D-L record under Delovski is 7-3-7. Away from home it is 5-3-4.
The Jets have never beaten the Victory when refereed by Delovski. The record is 0-2-1. Both draws were in Newcastle.
Delovski has awarded the opposition 2 goals in the last 3 matches. He last awarded the Jets a penalty in Season 5 – 11 matches ago.
The Jets have received a total of 32 bookings and 2 straight reds. The opposition have received 25 bookings and 3 reds (2 straight).
Williams has handed out 46 yellow cards for the Jets, at an average of 1.91 per match, while he has booked opposition players 35 times at an average of 1.46 per match.
In all matches officiated by Delovski, the Jets have only conceded 7 goals in the first half, and 15 in the second half.
The Jets have only ever been behind twice at half time in matches he’s officiated. However, when scores are level at half time (7 times), the Jets have lost 6 matches.

[true waterboy]

Im feeling confident for this one.

Saw a few of the team at goldbergs around lunch time.

A team that drinks coffee together is a team that will win together :rof:

[Grimario]

A team that drinks coffee together is a team that will win together :rof:

I would have thought that MV are doing a similar thing but their saying is "a team that trains regularly together instead of wasting half your week sipping soy lattes together, wins together".

They are working on it, bit of a mouthful right now.

[q-money]

burn down dineaway

[MFKS]

Delovski has awarded the opposition 2 goals in the last 3 matches

I knew this bloke was a cheat and this just confirms it

[Jeterpool]

I knew this bloke was a cheat and this just confirms it

:blush: penalties...

[Blackmac79]

THE REFEREE: – Strebre Delovski

The W-D-L record under Delovski is 7-3-7. Away from home it is 5-3-4.
The Jets have never beaten the Victory when refereed by Delovski. The record is 0-2-1. Both draws were in Newcastle.
Delovski has awarded the opposition 2 goals in the last 3 matches. He last awarded the Jets a penalty in Season 5 – 11 matches ago.
The Jets have received a total of 32 bookings and 2 straight reds. The opposition have received 25 bookings and 3 reds (2 straight).
Williams has handed out 46 yellow cards for the Jets, at an average of 1.91 per match, while he has booked opposition players 35 times at an average of 1.46 per match.
In all matches officiated by Delovski, the Jets have only conceded 7 goals in the first half, and 15 in the second half.
The Jets have only ever been behind twice at half time in matches he’s officiated. However, when scores are level at half time (7 times), the Jets have lost 6 matches.


I would love to see your stat keeping system.

I really appreciate this.

[Jeterpool]

I would love to see your stat keeping system.

I really appreciate this.

Mods - I think I'm getting propositioned.

nah, seriously I hope it helps people with their betting.

[plague]

burn down dineaway
Oh you can GO TO HELL WITH THAT ATTITUDE SONNY JIM.

Little know fact that Griff taught Harry how to cook that schnitty to perfection.

Might as well burn down the Eureka Stockade and Bob Hawkes childhood home while you're at it.

[q-money]

the things we love are the first things that must go against the wall in our struggle for revolution

[plague]

the things we love are the first things that must go against the wall in our struggle for revolution

1. Governments.
2. Schools.
3. hospitals.
4. Argyle House.
5. Everything else.



2nd last. Dineaway
Last. Griffs place.

[MFKS]

Game Day

Fire Up Cunce

[WolfMan]

On-call for work, so can't make the match.

Have a tenner on half/full double of draw/victory @ 5.50.

Money in the bank

[furns]

'mon

etc

seriously though, keen as for today. Bringing youngest for her first proper bay 60 experience after bringing the oldest to final game last season.

[The Dunster]

Looking forward to the post match presser when Stubbins assures fans that no wins in 5 games is ok because we are building for the future.

[MFKS]

Actually just like to point out how good is it to be going to the Footy in Newy again:yay::pissup::lulzturtle:

Been far too long

[lquiquer]

Is Pepper injured?

[Jeterpool]

Ryan griffiths spotted bay 59

[Grimario]

Is Pepper injured?

Don't think so, just dropped? Shame, he's been one of our best this year.

[Ranger-86]

Welsh 1st goal, 2.1 to us..... The eternal optimist

[lquiquer]

Don't think so, just dropped? Shame, he's been one of our best this year.
Would rather Pepper on the bench that Gallaway... !!!! Ffs

[Retro Jet]

Wtf is an 'Agricultural' challenge?
2nd time I've heard it this weekend.
Here's an adjective for Fox Commentators: annoying....

[Grimario]

Would rather Pepper on the bench that Gallaway... !!!! Ffs

Would prefer him in ahead of Welsh or Caravella.

[Ranger-86]

Well deserved lead

[Ranger-86]

Lol griff 4got which way to celebrate hahaha

[Retro Jet]

Go on with it now lads....
Watch Musky panic and bring on Archie sooner rather than later lol

[Retro Jet]

And fmd...all too easy chumps.

[Ranger-86]

Scott neville.... Sigh

[steve136]

Gallagher knows he's allowed to pass forward right?
We will find a way to lose this game.

[steve136]

Great defending Regan.
Great goalkeeping Birighitti.
We're so good.

[Grimario]

Great defending Regan.
Great goalkeeping Birighitti.
We're so good.

No way Biraz is at fault for that goal. Hard and low across goal against his momentum... Perfect shot by Berisha.

[steve136]

No way Biraz is at fault for that goal. Hard and low across goal against his momentum... Perfect shot by Berisha.

Mate, it hit the middle of the net. That's embarrassing.

[Grimario]

Mate, it hit the middle of the net. That's embarrassing.

What's your point? It's low, hard across the keeper who is coming off his line. Where it went in the net is irrelevant.

[steve136]

What's your point? It's low, hard across the keeper who is coming off his line. Where it went in the net is irrelevant.
What it means is that his positioning was terrible, giving up way too much of the goal and making it easy.
Not entirely his fault, Regan left his man with way too much space. We clearly have a structural problem in our defence. But still.

[steve136]

Here's a few challenges:
Try to find a goalkeeper with less confidence than Birighitti.
Try to find a defence that gives its opponents more space.
Try to find a player that can kill a counter-attack better than Caravella.
Try to find a player less composed in front of goal that Carney.
Try to find an easier player to dribble around than Galloway.

Good luck.

[Ranger-86]

What it means is that his positioning was terrible, giving up way too much of the goal and making it easy.
Not entirely his fault, Regan left his man with way too much space. We clearly have a structural problem in our defence. But still.

Replayed it on IQ about 10 times , left fullback played berisha on, definitely wasn't offside.Thought our midfield dominated theirs but our fullbacks were woeful and let us down badly going forward and defending , absolutely shocking. Montano deserved MOM kept a mammoth amount of ball with no service for him to have a go on target. Definitely a keeper hope we do all we can to get him next year. I would love to see him an Neumann have a go together upfront.

[matty]

Thought big phil missed a trick at the 60minute mark, having a goal scorer and play maker on the bench. While he had caravella and welsh in the center of the park while kanta was holding. Surely you must ask yourself why play 3 holding mids while we chasing a goal with attacking options on the bench

[Couscous]

:(

[baldrick]

Undefeated at Hunter Stadium after 5 rounds. Nice.

[Blackmac79]

Undefeated at Hunter Stadium after 5 rounds. Nice.

I'm feeling good

[Premy]

Ryan griffiths spotted bay 59

So long as it doesn't break the bank not minimum wage but not much more than minimum,I would be ok with this. Put him on the left side and drop Carney or play him at LB

[380]

With the exception of Monty, Griff and a couple of others if these cunce were playing for dinner they would go hungry. Talk about stage fright when they get in front.

What is it with Regan this season, prick is defending like a bloody girl, bloke needs to seriously start muscling up or piss off.

Jury is till out on Stubbins also me thinks.

[belchardo]

Carney. Is he here for a bloody holiday?

I'm sure he must have a bet going with somebody about how many games he can go with shit crosses, poor defence, non existent tracking, lazy passing and lazy decisions before he gets dropped.

Am i only one who thinks he is not up to scratch?

On another matter, why are our players going down with cramp EVERY SINGLE MATCH???????????

[Jetmaster]

Distinct lack of confidence is apparent...the game was there to be won but we appear very timid sometimes.

And we surely can try two or three up front now and then.

[Hunter403]

1 Not fit enough
2 Not playing it to Carney or Griff early enough
3 Griff is out of position
4 We are generally clueless in the final third
5 We are afraid to shoot
6 We are not good enough to play out from the back
7 Is Stubbins a GVE clone?
8 Still crap but better than we have been.
9 We have a wealth of attacking 'talent' in the squad a and should be more dangerous.

[belchardo]

Definitely agree with 4.

[Thomas477]

Phil Dando was on fire after the game. Was laying into the club with little to no holding back.

Blokes aren't fit enough, that's either the fitness coaches fault, or the fact that the ****s aren't training enough.

Why the **** would you leave one of our best players on the ****ing bench until the 85th minute? Stubbins didn't want to win that game.

That refereeing was honking.

[belchardo]

Still mystified by neville off, gallaway on. Does stubs think Neville is made of glass?

[hausmann]

We seem to be playing without a genuine striker. Montaño is great but he is this year's Heskey without us having this year's Taggart.

[belchardo]

We seem to be playing without a genuine striker. Montaño is great but he is this year's Heskey without us having this year's Taggart.

He got through some work tonight did montano.

[Thomas477]

Ffs, play a 442 diamond

Griff Montano
Flores
Carney Hoole
Kanta/Pepper
Any combination of Gallagher, Regz, Kew, Madaschi and Neville.
Birraz

[lquiquer]

1 Not fit enough
2 Not playing it to Carney or Griff early enough
3 Griff is out of position
4 We are generally clueless in the final third
5 We are afraid to shoot
6 We are not good enough to play out from the back
7 Is Stubbins a GVE clone?
8 Still crap but better than we have been.
9 We have a wealth of attacking 'talent' in the squad a and should be more dangerous.

10. Caravelle not a number 10, too slow to distribute the ball forward

[sammydog]

Ffs, play a 442 diamond

Griff Montano
Flores
Carney Hoole
Kanta/Pepper
Any combination of Gallagher, Regz, Kew, Madaschi and Neville.
Birraz

This is exactly what I have been screaming since round 1.

[Thomas477]

This is exactly what I have been screaming since round 1.

Well I'm jumping on the bandwagon then.

[Jeterpool]

Neville taken off due to injury. Was feeling his groin before his run that lead to the first goal. I'm surprised he wasn't substituted earlier

[MFKS]

i thought I would wait before posting.

These cunce are killing me

Jaliens should be stripped of the captaincy. Scores a goal then runs away from the fans to celebrate. Griff should be ****ing installed ASAP as the bloke has a ****ing clue and done the right thing

As for the game well lets call a spade a spade no way in the world did we deserve to be 2-0 up. The only threat we caused them was from set pieces. They had NFI defending them.

The first 20 mins at home and we can't get a shot on goal and never looked like having one. FFS

Probably cause all the cunce on the park were interested in doing was passing backwards.
Scott Neville had a FK just in front of the Victree bench in the first half and he chose to play it backwards. Not only did he play it back he was constantly looking for an option from Kew Reegz Birraz to receive and wasn't even looking to play it sideways or heaven forbid forward. FFS When the mentality of these cunce is to play the ball backwards at 0-0 at home then there is a ****ing problem.

Add in the constant effort from these blokes to play backwards at all costs and you can see why our striker receives shit ball.
Considering how poor Victree are at crosses I would love to know why our blokes think it is a good idea to get the ball in the corner and then have it back on Half way within 10 seconds. ****ING STUPID

I could swear we are still under some edict to play GVE's way cause all i seen today was the same shit over and over again we have seen for the last few years. FFS Phil be your own ****ing man

The tactix were a disgrace from an attacking sense and Phil showed not to be quick on the up take. For a team that plays like Victree do why the ridiculously high line?? We got punished twice in the first half once they scored the other time they hit the post and were also exposed just after H.T Add in the fact in the second half we had a linesman who seemed to have **** all idea on the offside rule let alone much of a ****ing clue what the rest of the rules were then why ****ing persist?? It was lucky we got way with it.

The substitutions were ****ing poor to. Exactly what if Flores gonna achieve in 10 mins?? 60 Mins into the game the game was there to be won. Would have loved to have seen some positive changes and play 2 up front get Flores on etc. No we go with the same shit. He who dares wins and all that. Have a go you ****ing cunce

Speaking of the same shit where the **** was the Plan B?? All I seen was the same tactic that was struggling to work and we persisted to the ****ing end. FFS Change it up and ask a different ****ing question. You never know the tactic might ****ing work

Feel for Montano who done well. Be interesting to see how the bloke would go having a bit of ****ing support unlike the normal situation where the bloke is fed shit and has to fend for himself.

Griff is ****ing wasted on the ****ing right play the bloke up front and start putting your best XI on the park and start putting your players in their best position and **** this shit set formation off.

Lets just face some facts these cunce will never be able to ****ing play the ****ing thing. The last few years of not making the semis have ****ing proving it. The last few years not winning games have ****ing proven it. FFS Is any **** at the club capable of getting it through their ****ing heads it is time to try something different

Apoligies for the excessive swearing but these cunce are ****ing killing me and I was ****ing worse 3 and a half hours ago

[joel31]

Did anyone notice everytime Carney was in a decent shooting position he took far too long to shoot meaning his chances were lost

[joel31]

Birraz wasn't at fault for the goal, Regan was though. Loving the strength

[Thomas477]

Member, sure you aren't Phil Dando? Making a lot of similar points, all of which makes sense.

But herein lies the problem with our club's management, we're far too happy to just exist, as opposite to trying to be ambitious and change the club like Roar did with Ange, like Victory with Ange, Scum with Arnie, Sydney with Arnie and Adelaide with Gombau. Those clubs with ambition are going good, but not the ones without ambition.

[plague]

My thoughts;
Biraz: good game, didnt really do anything wrong, wasnt at fault for either goal. Only concern is his lack of communication with defenders, but maybe Kew has been put in charge and Biraz just doing his part.
Kew: class.
Reegz: im sick of defending him. if mongs on here cant see that hes a more than capable A-league level player then i cant help you. works well with Kew and most importantly listens and obeys his senior partner.
right back/left back: seemed to sit a bit more. was Nev injured? Gallagher was getting yelled out by Kew most of the 1st half. hope he listens.
Zanon/Kanta/manchild: theres a lot of toil here. i actually dont have a problem with any of their individual efforts. i just think they are all really similar players and not a great deal of spark or attacking instinct there. i think the problem is playing a lot of blokes like that together. theres something about the Manchild that I like.
Griff: stop the fight. best player we've ever had. add me to the list of blokes wanting to see him up front.
Montano: lots of work. got about. someone mentioned Heskey and i think thats a good spot. likes to use his hands a lot to control the ball (got away with a fair few of them). obviously been watching Jimmy Holland videos. respect.
Carney: not sure what people expect from him. i think hes a pretty good player for us, i just think people expect more from him due to his pedigree. the shot in the 2nd half was on target and anyone thinking he should have just run on and hit it first time is tripping. this is the A-League, if you think youre seeing a Bale like performance for your $12 each week then think again.
others: meh.
Ryan Griffiths in the stands. Please tell me he wasnt sitting with Middleby. **** Ryan Griffiths.
Flores: is he fit or not? if so get him on the park. we need a #10. if hes not fit then get him in youth. 10 mins at the end where he comes on and tries the miracle balls doesnt help anyone.

thought we were by far the better team. played some good football. still no wins though.
GVE OUT.

[Thomas477]

On RyGriff, I'm pretty sure he wasn't part of the chairmans club and was a part of a private box.

[plague]

Jaliens should be stripped of the captaincy. Scores a goal then runs away from the fans to celebrate. Griff should be ****ing installed ASAP as the bloke has a ****ing clue and done the right thing


There are more fans in the stadium than Bay 60.

[MFKS]

There are more fans in the stadium than Bay 60.Still ran towards an empty bay of no fans and then couldn't even be arsed running to the fans on the Eastern Stand.

Don't defend a bloke who won't celebrate a goal with his fans FFS:facepalm:

Captain leads by ****ing example and the bloke should be setting the standard....The standard is straight to the fans


Griff showed exactly how a real captain ****ing acts

[q-money]

wuts up with hoole and flores on the bench with yer boy caravella starting? yer wut.

carney smh

[plague]

wuts up with hoole and flores on the bench with yer boy caravella starting? yer wut.

carney smh

Biggest disc-race was no sign of Peppz. Bloke would want to have Ebola or something. Stubs best not be leaving him out just cause.
That shit don't fly round ere.

[BodyNovo]

Carney was ****ing terrible

Big phil needs to work it out

You don't wait until 10 mins to go at home before bringing on your most creative player

[Grimario]

Biggest disc-race was no sign of Peppz. Bloke would want to have Ebola or something. Stubs best not be leaving him out just cause.
That shit don't fly round ere.

If the Steele rumours about getting into a fight with two locals, maybe he was one and has been dropped. Pure speculation, of course. And that's what the foz thrives on.

[Premy]

Still ran towards an empty bay of no fans and then couldn't even be arsed running to the fans on the Eastern Stand.

Don't defend a bloke who won't celebrate a goal with his fans FFS:facepalm:

Captain leads by ****ing example and the bloke should be setting the standard....The standard is straight to the fans


Griff showed exactly how a real captain ****ing acts
Get over yourself, this is the attitude of why people stay away from bay 60. The attitude that you believe you're better fans so the players should celebrate in front of you piss off and keep playing with your member.

[Hunter403]

I thought Carney did well in attack and we seemed more enterprising down the left. My only concern is that he doesn't track back fast enough which, if your left back is that WOFTAM Galloway, is a recipe for disaster.

When the Roundabout goes forward quickly he is value. I noticed yesterday that for a small bloke he wins a lot of tackles and rides their tackles quite well. He needs to be quicker going forward and needs options to be available.

Gallagher, Galloway and Walsh to slow on the ball. Will give Walsh and Gallagher time to improve.

[redwah]

There are more fans in the stadium than Bay 60.

Couldn't agree more. 4 sides around the playing field so fans are everywhere.

[howardyou]

My thoughts:

This formation sucks.
Montano although worked very hard, was isolated for the whole game. I'm not sure if he should've been man of the match. How many shots on target did he have? Griff running off the big man could be quite effective.

Carney was rubbish. I agree with Plague that we may expect too much from him. This bloke couldn't hold down a regular spot at any club. 7 clubs in 5 years.

Caravella and Kanta were okay without providing any great attacking threats. Sitting very deep.
Welsh - okay without being good enough - yet.

Kew & Taylor are forming a quite decent partnership. Nev was pretty okay. Gallagher hasn't impressed me.

Once again we lost a lead.

[Allimpic]

Stubs forced to play grif on the right to accomodate montano...

Probably because the Ffa want every coach to play a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1
Creating Robots...
Get Grif up Top...

Another point

The team hates each other... Johnny Steele at Sawyers boozing up during the game... Birraz rocks up bagging out Kanta for getting the 3 points..way to talk about a team mate... Then didn't even care who could hair was just talking to chicks.
Gallaway is shit yet turns up like he is the boss... They don't care....

Think of the good times when Durante and grif even stu all the boys would hang together and be tight nit...
They all have there seperate congregations...

Telling you...
Middleby
Barrtzz
Have to go... And a culture has to be created... Much like wsw or victory...

[Premy]

Couldn't give to shits they aren't mates.
They aren't getting paid to be mates, they're getting paid to play football together end off.

[Beeen]

Get over yourself, this is the attitude of why people stay away from bay 60. The attitude that you believe you're better fans so the players should celebrate in front of you piss off and keep playing with your member.

:rof: :popcorn:

[Allimpic]

Couldn't give to shits they aren't mates.
They aren't getting paid to be mates, they're getting paid to play football together end off.

How can you create a good culture?

[Premy]

How can you create a good culture?

By winning

[GazFish35]

Get over yourself, this is the attitude of why people stay away from bay 60. The attitude that you believe you're better fans so the players should celebrate in front of you piss off and keep playing with your member.

Please don't think mfks speaks for bay60.
I didn't even see him in 60 yesterday, and the attitude you mention certainly isn't present amongst the 20-30 blokes I stand with.

And before he logs on and argues semantics, he didn't mention bay60 or the expectation that Kew or griff should go to that bay to celebrate.

Please don't tar bay60 with "they think they're better fans" brush. I'm not sure it was ever a fair accusation (though I recognise enough from outside the bay feel this way, so it must in someway be a reality) but is far less so now.


20-30 might actually be 10-15

[Premy]

Please don't think mfks speaks for bay60.
I didn't even see him in 60 yesterday, and the attitude you mention certainly isn't present amongst the 20-30 blokes I stand with.

And before he logs on and argues semantics, he didn't mention bay60 or the expectation that Kew or griff should go to that bay to celebrate.

Please don't tar bay60 with "they think they're better fans" brush. I'm not sure it was ever a fair accusation (though I recognise enough from outside the bay feel this way, so it must in someway be a reality) but is far less so now.


20-30 might actually be 10-15
Apologies for that gaz I do see all the hard work you guys put in to be more inclusive.

I did assume MFKS was talking about bay 60, altough comparing the 2 different celebration my assumbtion seems to be correct. With comments like MFKS it gives off the mantra that he feels superior to all the other fans and when he uses collective nouns it's easy to make the connection I did.

Once again I apologies for putting the squadron in that collective and would use this chance to comend all of you on the efforts you put in week in week out.

[lquiquer]

Just rewind then Kew going towards Eastern stand and everybody happy......

[GazFish35]

Apologies for that gaz I do see all the hard work you guys put in to be more inclusive.

I did assume MFKS was talking about bay 60, altough comparing the 2 different celebration my assumbtion seems to be correct. With comments like MFKS it gives off the mantra that he feels superior to all the other fans and when he uses collective nouns it's easy to make the connection I did.

Once again I apologies for putting the squadron in that collective and would use this chance to comend all of you on the efforts you put in week in week out.

All sweet premy!




I think griff only ran towards bay60 as a few of us had bumped into him earlier in the day.

[q-money]

something we need to talk about is the poor training of the children at the MFKS School for Ball Boys and Girls.

twice late it the second half Melbourne were on a quick break and counter with our lads booting it into the stands only to see one of our own newy ballboys firing it into the hands of your archie Thompsons ricky-tick etc without even dropping the ball, pretending not to hear, holding onto it or even partaking in any kind of skullduggery and packing the pressure on our already puffed out defense

sort it out member ffs

[plague]

Don't know what the Member is banging on about. Berisha went over to Bay 60 to celebrate.
I thought Kew gave a few large ones to the blokes in that corner terrace (who were making a good noise considering there didn't look too many of them).
I love that Griff always goes to bay 60. I love love love that Griff makes blokes go to the travelling fans on away days.
Other than that blokes can go meditate in the centre circle for all I care as long as they score ****ern.

[The Dunster]

Flores used to float past defenders. Now he moves like he has a house brick tied to each boot.

From a guy that was once the best in the league to someone that probably isn't good enough to start for the Jets,the poor bloke must be doing it tough.

[baldrick]

Flores used to float past defenders. Now he moves like he has a house brick tied to each boot.

From a guy that was once the best in the league to someone that probably isn't good enough to start for the Jets,the poor bloke must be doing it tough.

He looks (to me) like someone who is carrying a back injury. He just looks uncomfortable, and as Dunster said moves like he's got bricks for boots.

[Skirt Boy]

I was not out at cricket and won a game of pool at the wackers aye.

[hawk]

Did anyone notice everytime Carney was in a decent shooting position he took far too long to shoot meaning his chances were lost

Carney in the box is a disaster. at the back, can get caught out. everywhere else, pretty good for mine.

[Tommyjet]

Carney in the box is a disaster. at the back, can get caught out. everywhere else, pretty good for mine.

Takes an eternity when the ball comes across his body. I agree about in the box and at the back rubbish. Needs to stay wider sometimes and whip more balls in for monty and griff.

[Jeterpool]

We were very risk averse yesterday. Our first instinct is to play back, which has come from years and years under GvE and to an extent Branko. It's ruined a number of our current crop and will still happen with his involvement in the youth system. couple withis with tediously slow ball movement and it's no wonder we struggle to create anything. The few one-two touches between Griff and Montano tells me a) these blokes know what they're doing and b) there is something of a partnership there.

Where was Pepper yesterday? He is one of the few who hasn't deserved to be dropped.

I agree with all those calling for the diamond formation. Joel is wasted out right.

Also Montano is a beast - Heskey but with more pace and the ability to beat a player.

Kanta did a really good job hanging off Finkler for the majority of the match.

Strebre and his assistants were pretty ordinary yesterday. Strebre blew for everything so no momentum could be gained, and the Western stand linesman was terrible. The number of times Thompson or Barbarouses were offside and he missed it because he wasn't watching or was 10m behind the play was terrible.

[Jeterpool]

Takes an eternity when the ball comes across his body. I agree about in the box and at the back rubbish. Needs to stay wider sometimes and whip more balls in for monty and griff.

Becoming as predictable as Virgili - always fakes cross and cuts back in before shaping up

[Jeterpool]

By winning

as one facet.

[Imyourhero]

Carney was poor once again.
Pepper didnt deserve to be dropped.
Welsh was one of best players last week, should've stayed in middle. Flores needs more time. Play Griff up front

[MFKS]

Get over yourself, this is the attitude of why people stay away from bay 60. The attitude that you believe you're better fans so the players should celebrate in front of you piss off and keep playing with your member.

Where did I say he should run to Bay 60??

What i did say is he should run to the fans.

Reading may help before getting on the high horse


Bloke could have continued running to the eastern stand but didn't
Bloke could have run to the southern hill didn't
Bloke could have run to the western stand didn't
Bloke could have run to the northern hill didn't

Bloke run to an empty bay and couldn't give a ****.

Bloke snubbed the fans at WSW last year when he scored down the end of the away fans.

Once could be deemed an oversight but twice??

[Premy]

Maybe you need to take off your rose colored Griffo glasses, where I was standing sure seemed like Kew celebrated not far from there.

When both of them celebrated with the crowd and one of them celebrates with the squadron and you slam the one that didn't saying he should of celebrated wit the fans. It sure makes you look like an arrogant prick, I'm' not alone in my assumption of what you said as others have seen it the same way I did.

Anyway everyone knew you were goin to come on here and argue semantics just to save face, so please carry on and make yourself look like the fool we all know you to be.

[MFKS]

Maybe you need to take off your rose colored Griffo glasses, where I was standing sure seemed like Kew celebrated not far from there.

When both of them celebrated with the crowd and one of them celebrates with the squadron and you slam the one that didn't saying he should of celebrated wit the fans. It sure makes you look like an arrogant prick, I'm' not alone in my assumption of what you said as others have seen it the same way I did.

Anyway everyone knew you were goin to come on here and argue semantics just to save face, so please carry on and make yourself look like the fool we all know you to be.

I don't need to argue semantics with you at all.

What i wrote is clear as day I have even reiterated it for you so you can see it clearly again

You have gone off half cocked making shit up and running with it. You make as much semantics up as you like on this one to justify whatever you like when the reality is that you haven't read what was there:sup:

[Premy]

There are more fans in the stadium than Bay 60.

Still ran towards an empty bay of no fans and then couldn't even be arsed running to the fans
.

[MFKS]

.

So you now wish to elaborate on the bit where I said he should run to Bay 60 or mentioned Bay 60 at all??

All I mentioned was "the fans" . :facepalm: Your the one who has assumed I was referring to Bay 60 when I never implied shit.

[GazFish35]

Member.... you compared Kew running to open space to griff who ran towards bay60 and said Kew got it wrong and griff got it right.

Climb down off your "I didn't say anything of the sort" high horse.
it's pretty easy to see how people could interpret (rightly or wrongly) what you wrote the way premy did.
I did too at first.

I like the manner in which you're going about this by not arguing semantics too. ;)

[MFKS]

Member.... you compared Kew running to open space to griff who ran towards bay60 and said Kew got it wrong and griff got it right.

Climb down off your "I didn't say anything of the sort" high horse.
it's pretty easy to see how people could interpret (rightly or wrongly) what you wrote the way premy did.
I did too at first.

I like the manner in which you're going about this by not arguing semantics too. ;)

I am just pushing it a little :wink:

Still can't believe Premy reads into what I say like there is some type of hidden cryptic message to be found in it though. The post in question he pulls something from it is pretty obvious that i ain't holding back speaking my mind.

Bloke thinks I have several layers of complexity :facepalm:

[Premy]

So you now wish to elaborate on the bit where I said he should run to Bay 60 or mentioned Bay 60 at all??

All I mentioned was "the fans" . :facepalm: Your the one who has assumed I was referring to Bay 60 when I never implied shit.
I'm merely pointing out you had the chance to clarify yet you didn't deny you weren't talkin about Bay 60 when you had the chance.

[la bazzle]

Carney is ****ing rubbish

[Blackmac79]

Its alright. Players ignored bay60 post match. everyone else got clapped around the ground.

Bay60 hated by players and other fans alike.

[BodyNovo]

Its alright. Players ignored bay60 post match. everyone else got clapped around the ground.

Bay60 hated by players and other fans alike.

lel

[lquiquer]

Its alright. Players ignored bay60 post match. everyone else got clapped around the ground.

Bay60 hated by players and other fans alike.

Berisha likes bay 60

[Blackmac79]

Berisha likes bay 60

60 likes berisha too.

[MFKS]

something we need to talk about is the poor training of the children at the MFKS School for Ball Boys and Girls.

twice late it the second half Melbourne were on a quick break and counter with our lads booting it into the stands only to see one of our own newy ballboys firing it into the hands of your archie Thompsons ricky-tick etc without even dropping the ball, pretending not to hear, holding onto it or even partaking in any kind of skullduggery and packing the pressure on our already puffed out defense

sort it out member ffs


Missed this bit.

Top call Q Man.

The kids doing this should be older than the current lot as half of them look like they are struggling to hold the football as it is so big and have NFI at the basics of ball boy at all.

They done the same thing last year we played Tards gave the ball back at lightening speed for Coe to take a quick GK and 20 seconds later it was in our net as we were sound asleep.

Rather ridiculous thing is our blokes ain't ever interested in a quick throw in anyway most of the time so the kids take their sweet time giving the ball to the player.

On the off chance we are interested in a quick ball the poor kid is running along miles from the action and running in slow motion weighed down by the ball like it is a bag of 20kg spuds .

As soon as our opponent wants it they are on the spot and can't wait to give it to them.


Just another issue to be resolved at our club the employing of ball boys involved in the dark arts of gamesmanship like that kid at Swansea who kicked the other year by was it Hazard??

[plague]

Missed this bit.

Top call Q Man.

The kids doing this should be older than the current lot as half of them look like they are struggling to hold the football as it is so big and have NFI at the basics of ball boy at all.

They done the same thing last year we played Tards gave the ball back at lightening speed for Coe to take a quick GK and 20 seconds later it was in our net as we were sound asleep.

Rather ridiculous thing is our blokes ain't ever interested in a quick throw in anyway most of the time so the kids take their sweet time giving the ball to the player.

On the off chance we are interested in a quick ball the poor kid is running along miles from the action and running in slow motion weighed down by the ball like it is a bag of 20kg spuds .

As soon as our opponent wants it they are on the spot and can't wait to give it to them.


Just another issue to be resolved at our club the employing of ball boys involved in the dark arts of gamesmanship like that kid at Swansea who kicked the other year by was it Hazard??

To be fair our ball boys prob don't recognise any of the players.
If Sam Galloway asked me for a ball I'd want to see some sort of ID before getting off my arse.
Most of our blokes just look like some sort of no talent boy band with shitty knock off Crystal Palace jerseys on.

[Jetmaster]

It is an not thought about area. Overseas ball boys must be a certain age and attending weekly training etc.

Here it is probably the kids of people who work for the Jets who probably get very little advice or training and are just told to catch the ball and throw it to a player.

They are often not looking, slow or jump if a player shouts at them....we should be a little more stringent in choosing these kids.

[pv4]

:rof: this season I had my nephew helping out ballboy my own games and a couple of times I geed him up to purposely give the ball back slower to the opposition. It's not that hard to sort this.

I've also heard stories of Cooks Square, aka Windy Hill, back in the day (70s, 80s) only supplying one solitary ball for games and the home team would try desperately for an early goal, then just thump the ball out down the hill and laugh as an opposition player would be sprinting down the hill to get the game restarted - only for Maitland to intercept the throw-in and clear it straight back down the hill :rof:

In the EPL (and elsewhere), home teams stock different number of balls available to the ball boys depending on the opponents. If they play against a team they think they should beat, they stock heaps of balls so there's higher opportunity to play. If they play a team they don't think they can beat, they stock the bare minimum required by the FA and tell their ballboys to purposely partake in a bit of q-mungus's skullduggery. See Swansea vs Chelsea when Hazard kicked the ballboy for the extreme example of this happening.

Too many people in Newy think that if you're British, you must know and be awesome at football (see: Bridges). I'm amazed that Stubbins, born-n-bred in Hull and just the ultimate football coach because of his accent, hasn't geed up the ballboys for this kind of thing yet.

[plague]

:rof: this season I had my nephew helping out ballboy my own games and a couple of times I geed him up to purposely give the ball back slower to the opposition. It's not that hard to sort this.


Nike, Apple, pv4.
Child exploitation in its purest form.

Shame.


- sent from my iPhone.

[pv4]

Nike, Apple, pv4.
Child exploitation in its purest form.

Shame.


- sent from my iPhone.

http://i.imgur.com/rQ6hkDD.png

[q-money]

:rof:

[Jeterpool]

http://i.imgur.com/rQ6hkDD.png

Same issue here

[WolfMan]

http://i.imgur.com/rQ6hkDD.png

Rep added :roflz:

[Jeterpool]

Jets v Victory Trivia:
1. Adam, Joel or Ryan – Who has the most bookings, and how many have they had, in this fixture?

2. Who is the only Jets player to have missed a penalty against the Victory?

3. Keeper Condundrum – Who has kept the most clean sheets against the Victory during their time wit h the Jets – Liam Reddy, Ante Covic or Ben Kennedy?

1. Joel with 3

2. Edmundo Zura

3. Ante Covic (3)

Thanks for playing

[Grimario]

Ffs.