HAL 14/15 round 5 - the others

[belchardo]

Hate sydney but the variety at free kicks is impressive.

Not sure why that goal didnt stand.

[belchardo]

I HATE ognenovski. It's visceral. Will never like the guy when he's on the football field.

[Thomas477]

From what I've seen, that should have stood, I'm 95% sure that the ref has to hold the whistle above his head and point to it to signify that the FK will be taken on the whistle. Again, from what I've seen, Milner didn't do it, hence the goal should have stood.

[MFKS]

From what I've seen, that should have stood, I'm 95% sure that the ref has to hold the whistle above his head and point to it to signify that the FK will be taken on the whistle. Again, from what I've seen, Milner didn't do it, hence the goal should have stood.

Despite being right about everything you said all I can say it is still special when bad shit like this happens to Sydney cause they usually don't get ****ed over like everyone else.

Look forward to Arnie doing his nut in the presser

[GazFish35]

Deadset Ryall must have thought goodwin was 15 trying to get him to go down like that.

[Thomas477]

Despite being right about everything you said all I can say it is still special when bad shit like this happens to Sydney cause they usually don't get ****ed over like everyone else.

Look forward to Arnie doing his nut in the presser

Oh, I totally agree Member.

And gaz :wub:

[hawk]

has adelaide signed up the Cosby kids, some specimens going on.

[GazFish35]

I HATE ognenovski. It's visceral. Will never like the guy when he's on the football field.

It's amazing when we started in the AFC and the socceroos were on the receiving end the media were up in arms about the gamesmanship used by our opposition. Now, one of their mates do it and it's almost admired.

[Premy]

From what I've seen, that should have stood, I'm 95% sure that the ref has to hold the whistle above his head and point to it to signify that the FK will be taken on the whistle. Again, from what I've seen, Milner didn't do it, hence the goal should have stood.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if the Keeper has a hand on the post and he is setting his wall then you are not allowed to take the kick. In this situation it's a moot point as Galekovic was not on his post but I'm just looking for clarification.

[MFKS]

It's amazing when we started in the AFC and the socceroos were on the receiving end the media were up in arms about the gamesmanship used by our opposition. Now, one of their mates do it and it's almost admired.
2 years straight of fapping over ADP taking a dive will do it

[goaliepersempre]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if the Keeper has a hand on the post and he is setting his wall then you are not allowed to take the kick. In this situation it's a moot point as Galekovic was not on his post but I'm just looking for clarification.

the man that makes the decision is the referee. basically you dont have to blow your whistle for every freekick that is taken. however generally when in a dangerous goal scoring opportunity the ref can slow game down and then as pv4 indicate the freekick is to be taken on the whistle, held above the head (ofcourse in low legs you can just say on the whistle) but at higher levels its holding the whistle above ones head so everyone can see this is the case. it is still a little gray area with each referee having there own interpretation, each referee association and each federation etc etc etc. I havent seen this situation so cant comment on that exact example.

[Thomas477]

From the Laws of the Game:


Use of whistle
The whistle is needed to:
• start play (1st, 2nd half), after a goal
• stop play:
– for a free kick or penalty kick
– if the match is suspended or abandoned
– when a period of play has ended due to the expiration of time
• restart play for:
– free kicks when the appropriate distance is required
– penalty kicks
• restart play after it has been stopped due to:
– the issue of a yellow or red card for misconduct
– injury
– substitution
The whistle is NOT needed to:
• stop play for:
– a goal kick, corner kick or throw-in
– agoal
• restart play from:
– a free kick, goal kick, corner kick, throw-in
A whistle which is used too frequently unnecessarily will have less impact when it is needed. When a discretionary whistle is needed to start play, the referee should clearly announce to the players that the restart may not occur until after that signal.


So Milner was in his rights to deny it, but it was poor refereeing.

[weston]

Refereeing for that free kick was shit. As rudan said. He watched the ball go into the net before he blew he whistle. He should of known when the ball was kicked whether it was taken early or not no matter if it went into the net or row z. If he had time to turn his head and watch the ball go in, he had time to put the whistle in his mouth and blow it. Also poor for not stating the play had to wait for the whistle (point to whistle above head).

[plague]

Despite being right about everything you said all I can say it is still special when bad shit like this happens to Sydney cause they usually don't get ****ed over like everyone else.

Look forward to Arnie doing his nut in the presser

This.
Anyone who doesn't love Alan Miliner is a bum.
Australian of the year.

[plague]

has adelaide signed up the Cosby kids, some specimens going on.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/wwe-4.gif?w=400&h=226

[plague]

So Milner was in his rights to deny it, but it was poor refereeing.

No, he got the decision right. Therefore it was good refereeing.

[plague]

Legit though all Members' bullshit aside Tarek has been outstanding for them.
Goodwin was one of their best tonight too.

Yeah nah but GVE in and all that.

[belchardo]

Early claim for miss of the season last night by an adelaide player late on.

[MFKS]

Early claim for miss of the season last night by an adelaide player late on.
Marcelo Carrusco that would have been. Should have buried it to be fair but that one Mabil done a couple of weeks ago V Perth has him covered.

Not really concerned cause I am pretty certain some Jets player will top it before Rd 27 is done

[belchardo]

Adelaide v sydney - 16015
Wellington v wsw - 7008
Australia v south africa - "poor" - can't find the crowd figure, but it didn't look like too many were there.

[MFKS]

Adelaide v sydney - 16015
Wellington v wsw - 7008
Australia v south africa - "poor" - can't find the crowd figure, but it didn't look like too many were there.
Besides having plenty of time for cricket personally I am not overtly concerned with inroads into this code. They unlike a couple of the other oval shaped ball games played in winter are not as insular about their game v our game.

Could have a bit to do with the fact they actually have some form of international presence and are not paranoid about our code getting stronger.

Anyway their crowd is not surprising coz that Tinpot cricket stuff they were playing hasn't exactly been well promoted for this series V Saffas

[Premy]

Adelaide v sydney - 16015
Wellington v wsw - 7008
Australia v south africa - "poor" - can't find the crowd figure, but it didn't look like too many were there.

http://www.austadiums.com/sport/sport.php?sid=7
21,415 at the Cricket.

[Thomas477]

No, he got the decision right. Therefore it was good refereeing.

Just because he got the decision right, doesn't mean it was good refereeing. There's a difference between just getting the laws of the game right, which he did, and good refereeing, which includes getting the calls right, but also communication to the players, positioning etc.

[MFKS]

Just because he got the decision right, doesn't mean it was good refereeing. There's a difference between just getting the laws of the game right, which he did, and good refereeing, which includes getting the calls right, but also communication to the players, positioning etc.

Can you enlighten me where the bit is in the rule book that the referee HAS TO communicate with the players.

I am struggling to find it???

[GazFish35]

That's because that's not what Thomas said.

[baldrick]

Can you enlighten me where the bit is in the rule book that the referee HAS TO communicate with the players.

I am struggling to find it???


Right here. Last section on use of whistle.

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[Thomas477]

Can you enlighten me where the bit is in the rule book that the referee HAS TO communicate with the players.

I am struggling to find it???

As baldrick pointed out, I just copied and pasted in one of my earlier posts.

But as I said, it was the correct decision, but not good refereeing.

[MFKS]

As baldrick pointed out, I just copied and pasted in one of my earlier posts.

But as I said, it was the correct decision, but not good refereeing.

It's all on how you interpret it.

As Plague said the decision was made on the result of where the ball went. If Galekovic caught it or it went out for a goal kick I bet Milner says play on.

When it went in the decision he made was altered when he realised he would have issues making it out of Adelaide alive.

Other thing I would like to point out is a free kick is a reward for the non infringing team (Sydney) to have possession of the ball for the rule infringement and exactly how are they being rewarded by not being able to take it when they like just so Adelaide (the infringing team) are busy DELAYING THE GAME by organising a wall??

There is nothing written in the rule book at all that says the ref HAS TO allow the defending team TIME to set up a wall to make the attacking teams chances of scoring less

[baldrick]

Be interesting to know if the referee/assistant referee headsets are recorded too

[plague]

Do we know for sure that the ref didn't tell the players to wait for the whistle?
Players are saying one thing but we all know sockah players are a bunch of cheating diving cunce.

[Thomas477]

It's all on how you interpret it.

As Plague said the decision was made on the result of where the ball went. If Galekovic caught it or it went out for a goal kick I bet Milner says play on.

When it went in the decision he made was altered when he realised he would have issues making it out of Adelaide alive.

Other thing I would like to point out is a free kick is a reward for the non infringing team (Sydney) to have possession of the ball for the rule infringement and exactly how are they being rewarded by not being able to take it when they like just so Adelaide (the infringing team) are busy DELAYING THE GAME by organising a wall??

There is nothing written in the rule book at all that says the ref HAS TO allow the defending team TIME to set up a wall to make the attacking teams chances of scoring less

I agree, this is why I said it was the correct decision, but not good refereeing. Milner should've blown it up much sooner, and probably would've let it go if it missed, sort of you wanna take it before I'm ready, if you stuff up I won't save you.

I can't find a quote, but I'm sure for a 'formal' free kick, the ref just needs to set the 10 yards out, and not wait for the wall to be set. If sydney wanted to take it quick, they should've asked the ref if they could, like Fowler did a few years ago.

[MFKS]

I agree, this is why I said it was the correct decision, but not good refereeing. Milner should've blown it up much sooner, and probably would've let it go if it missed, sort of you wanna take it before I'm ready, if you stuff up I won't save you.

I can't find a quote, but I'm sure for a 'formal' free kick, the ref just needs to set the 10 yards out, and not wait for the wall to be set. If sydney wanted to take it quick, they should've asked the ref if they could, like Fowler did a few years ago.
Emphasis is that as they are the team with possession they should be able to as soon as they have the ball stationary on the correct spot. that is all they are required to do.

This shit about waiting for a whistle is a ****ing joke. It is the defending teams responsibility to retreat 10 yards. If the attacking team wishes to restart play they should be able to at their discretion and not at the pillock with the whistle who may or may not decide to enforce this waiting policy. It should also be the defedning sides responsibility to clear the 10 yards ASAP and not procrastinate with this shit as they shouldn't have any rights at this point in time

[Thomas477]

You're saying that Member, but the rules are crystal clear on this, the attacking team has to wait for the whistle. It's in the rules, twice stated in this thread. Ref actually applied these rules correctly for once.

The advantage should be the attacking team, yes, but the rules state that in this case, they had to wait for the whistle, even if the ref didn't indicate. Hence why I'm saying it was poor refereeing, but the correct decision.

[Grimario]

The lols. Brisbane are a shambles.

[belchardo]

So did james brown ever put in a cross like that for us?

[lquiquer]

Prob nope but remember a beautiful backheel assist

[lquiquer]

The lols. Brisbane are a shambles.

Till Friday 7.30

[belchardo]

Till Friday 7.30

7:40

[Retro Jet]

Prob nope but remember a beautiful backheel assist

Yeah...that's about all I remember from him too.

Also, Brisbane's season will start next week. We'll show them how.
Will be a real test of our sh!tness....or theirs.

[Jeterpool]

nice free kick from Marinkovic

[GazFish35]

nice free kick from Marinkovic

Shame there was no-one there to see it.

[Jeterpool]

Shame there was no-one there to see it.

:lulzturtle: