Rd 6 Newcastle Jets Vs Brisbane gypo killers 14/11/14 k/off 7:40pm AEDST

[hawk]

2014/2015 Hyundai A-League
Season 10 Round 6
Newcastle United Jets FC vs Brisbane Roar FC

When: Saturday 11th November, 2014
Where: Hunter Stadium, 294 Turton Road, New Lambton, NSW
Kickoff: 7.40pm AEDST (gates open when porky says so)
Tickets: Ticketmaster Link
Pre-match: District Park Tennis Club, Cnr Lambton and Curley Rds Broadmeadow from when ever ya feel thirsty

Watch: LIVE on Foxsports 4 and FoxSports 4HD
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Tweet: @newyboys #NTUA #NEWvMVC

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relegation battle. wonder if we'll score first again.

[Stokecityfc]

We love helping other teams get back into form :rof:

[Nou Camp]

if i dont see someone running off montana after kanta plays him feet im going to be really really upset

[Thomas477]

Kew to play at RB on Friday.

Stubbins showing great ambition to have a flank who's combined age is over 70 years.

[MFKS]

Kew to play at RB on Friday.

Stubbins showing great ambition to have a flank who's combined age is over 70 years.

That's probably what he should have done on Saturday when Neville come off
Welsh into CD with Reegz Kew to RB and then put Florist on into CM

Would have made more sense than Gallaway getting on the park

[Thomas477]

You reckon? I would've thought having Regan out there would've been better than a 36 year old. Plus Kew is rock solid in the centre, why would we want to ruin that?

[hawk]

Plus Kew is rock solid in the centre, why would we want to ruin that?

same reason why we dont put griff at the top i guess

[furns]

Jeterpool - any stats? :wink:

[joel31]

The one important stat:
100% winning percentage at Parramatta Stadium in the A-League

[Jeterpool]

Jeterpool - any stats? :wink:

Getting there mate. Been travelling for work this week

[Jeterpool]

2014/15 A-League Round 6 Preview – Newcastle Jets v Brisbane Roar


FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 28 games between the two teams.
Jets Wins – 12, Roar Wins – 9, Drawn – 7


In Newcastle – 13 games
Jets Wins – 3, Roar Wins – 7, Drawn – 5

Average Home A-League crowd – 9914

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 30, Roar – 29

Cards in Fixture
Jets – 66 (60 Yellow, 6 Red), Victory – 43 (39 Yellow, 4 Red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets – DLLDL
Roar – LLLLL

Leading Scorers
Jets – Joel Griffiths 2, Roar – Thomas Broich, Henrique, Mensur Kurtishi, Brandon Borello - 1

Last Result -
Jets 1 (Taggart 59’ pen) – Roar 0 at Suncorp Stadium, A-League, Round 19, 16/01/2014.


FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Bridge 9’, J Griffiths 53’, Bridge 77’) – Roar 0 at Suncorp Stadium, Round 16, Season 2, 07/12/2006.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Roar 5 (Reinaldo 10’, Richter 44’, Brosque 52’, McKay 83’, Murdocca 90+1’), Round 20, Season 1 at Energy Australia Stadium, 26/01/2006.

Leading Scorers in fixture –

Jets – 8 (Joel Griffiths)
Victory – 7 (Reinaldo)


2014/15 SEASON STATISTICS

Appearances

5 Mark Birrighiti, Kew Jaliens, Sam Gallagher, David Carney, Joel Griffiths, Edson Montano, Andrew Hoole,
4 Scott Neville, Taylor Regan, Jacob Pepper, Jeronimo Neumann, Zenon Caravella, Marco Flores
3 James Virgili
2 Jonny Steele, Sam Gallaway, Allan Wesh, Ben Kantarovski



Goals

2 Joel Griffiths
1 Edson Montano, Kew Jaliens, Jeronimo Neumann



Assists

1 Joel Griffiths, Scott Neville, Jacob Pepper, Taylor Regan



Yellow Cards

2 Taylor Regan, Jeronimo Neumann, Jacob Pepper, Marcos Flores, Edson Montano,
1 Jonny Steele, Kew Jaliens, David Carney, Allan Welsh



Red Cards

None


COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Phil Stubbins - 0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses
Mike Mulvey - 0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Phil Stubbins - 0 Matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 loss = -% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 17 matches (9 wins, 3 drawn and 5 losses = 53% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 wins, 4 drawn, 1 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = 100% win ratio)
Craig Deans - 0 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = -% win ratio)

Brisbane Roar Coach Record – Mike Mulvey 0% win ratio (0 win, 1 drawn, 4 loss).


KEY FACTS:

The Jets completed a clean sweep against Brisbane last year, winning all 3 matches.
The Jets haven’t conceded a goal against Brisbane in 231 minutes of football and have kept 4 clean sheets in 5 matches.
Brisbane has scored one goal in 350 minutes against Mark Birighitti.
The last home match was the first, and only, time the Jets have come from behind at half time to win. This was the only appearance of Puddle for the team.
In 28 matches, the victorious team has won by 1 goal on 16 occasions. The most common score line being 1-0, which has occurred 9 times.
Joel Griffiths is on a current scoring streak of 7 matches in a row against the Roar. He missed the final meeting last year due to suspension.
The Jets have never beaten Brisbane at home on a Friday night. The 2 previous matches resulted in a draw and loss.
Should he feature this weekend, Billy Celeski will be the 117th player to appear for Newcastle in the A-League.
The Jets haven’t scored a first half goal against the Roar at home in the last 2 seasons.
The Jets have received at least one booking in every match against Brisbane at home.
Joel Griffiths has scored in every match against the Roar at home, except one – his frist.
7 of the 10 red cards in this fixture have been shown at Hunter Stadium.
This weekend could be Zenon Caravella’s 30th appearance for the Jets.


THE REFEREE: – Alan Milliner

The W-D-L record under Milliner is 2-2-2. The one match he has refereed at Hunter Stadium was a 2-1 win over the Melbourne Victory.
Milliner has never shown a red card in any Jets fixture. He does, however, quite freely show yellow cards at an average of 4.5 per match.
He has never awarded either team a penalty in a Jets fixture.
Milliner was last week involved in the controversial re-take of a free-kick by Sydney because he had not yet blown his whistle to resume play.
The Jets matches Milliner officiates tend to have plenty of goals, with an average of just under 3 per match scored.
He’s never officiated a Jets v Roar clash.



Jets v Roar Trivia:
1. How many times in this fixture has either team scored more than two goals?

2. Who is the only Jets player to have missed a penalty against the Roar?

3. Keeper Condundrum – Who has kept the most clean sheets in this fixture – Ben Kennedy, Michael Theo or Ante Covic?

[matty]

1. Once in the 07/08 playoffs im pretty sure?
2. Nathan burns last year to go ahead before puddle made the appearance

3. Bk

[leftrightout]

The Jets have only received 2 penalties against the Victory, converting one. The Victory, however, have received 5.

:sup:

[Jeterpool]

The Newcastle Jets have named a 17-man squad for Friday night's clash with Brisbane Roar at Hunter Stadium.

Newcastle Jets squad: 1.Mark BIRIGHITTI (GK), 3.Taylor REGAN, 4.Kew JALIENS (c), 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI, 6.Adrian MADASCHI, 7.Jeronimo NEUMANN, 8.Zenon CARAVELLA, 9.Joel GRIFFITHS, 10.Marcos FLORES, 12.Sam GALLAGHER, 13.Edson MONTANO, 14.Billy CELESKI, 17.James VIRGILI, 18.Allan WELSH, 20.Ben KENNEDY (GK), 21.Sam GALLAWAY, 23.David CARNEY
***one to be omitted***
Ins: 6.Adrian MADASCHI (returns from injury), 14.Billy CELESKI (returns from injury), 17.James VIRGILI (promoted).
Outs: 16.Jacob PEPPER.
Unavailable: 2.Scott NEVILLE (groin - 1 week), 11.Andrew HOOLE (international duty), 15.Josh BARRESI (knee – season), 22.Jonny STEELE (leave of absence).

Deadset disgrace. Pepper one of our best 3 this season.

Something has gone on there, for sure. I really want to know why he's been left out because from his performances on the pitch I agree that it isn't warranted

[Jeterpool]

:sup:

For those who missed it last week mate. Needs to be updated to 3.

[Grimario]

The Newcastle Jets have named a 17-man squad for Friday night's clash with Brisbane Roar at Hunter Stadium.

Newcastle Jets squad: 1.Mark BIRIGHITTI (GK), 3.Taylor REGAN, 4.Kew JALIENS (c), 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI, 6.Adrian MADASCHI, 7.Jeronimo NEUMANN, 8.Zenon CARAVELLA, 9.Joel GRIFFITHS, 10.Marcos FLORES, 12.Sam GALLAGHER, 13.Edson MONTANO, 14.Billy CELESKI, 17.James VIRGILI, 18.Allan WELSH, 20.Ben KENNEDY (GK), 21.Sam GALLAWAY, 23.David CARNEY
***one to be omitted***
Ins: 6.Adrian MADASCHI (returns from injury), 14.Billy CELESKI (returns from injury), 17.James VIRGILI (promoted).
Outs: 16.Jacob PEPPER.
Unavailable: 2.Scott NEVILLE (groin - 1 week), 11.Andrew HOOLE (international duty), 15.Josh BARRESI (knee – season), 22.Jonny STEELE (leave of absence).

Deadset disgrace. Pepper one of our best 3 this season.

[lquiquer]

Something has gone on there, for sure. I really want to know why he's been left out because from his performances on the pitch I agree that it isn't warranted

Maybe Pepper out has got some sort of connection with Steele saga?

[Grimario]

Maybe Pepper out has got some sort of connection with Steele saga?

Wasn't the hot goss that it was Gallaway and Biraz hanging with Steele? Hasn't done their selection any harm.

[lquiquer]

Wasn't the hot goss that it was Gallaway and Biraz hanging with Steele? Hasn't done their selection any harm.

Yeah agree but maybe Pepper and Steele DON'T get on and something happened at training between these 2?

[Jeterpool]

Maybe Pepper out has got some sort of connection with Steele saga?


Wasn't the hot goss that it was Gallaway and Biraz hanging with Steele? Hasn't done their selection any harm.

this was said last week


My source tells me Johnny is causing a few problems within the squad. Most notably with two other young local players. Been given a 2 week "break" by Stubbins.

Funny Virgili and Pepper were omitted from the squad last week.

[q-money]

birraz was doing a paleo diet with steele which is enough grounds for his benching imo

[Grimario]

Yeah agree but maybe Pepper and Steele DON'T get on and something happened at training between these 2?

"U got shit tats, m8"
"Nah m8, u got shitter tats, ah begorrah"
*Steele gets sprayed with Pepper spray*

The end.

[Jeterpool]

"U got shit tats, m8"
"Nah m8, u got shitter tats, ah begorrah"
*Steele gets sprayed with Pepper spray*

The end.

I feel like I was there

[Grimario]

I feel like I was there

Modern day Shakespeare, me.

[outsider]

Jeterpool - any stats? :wink:

Referee Allan Milliner

[WolfMan]

Inb4Herald - "Jets forced to ground Pepper"

[Jeterpool]

Inb4Herald - "Jets forced to ground Pepper"

:roflz:

[Jeterpool]

Referee Allan Milliner

Ugh!

Cheers

[380]

Something has gone on there, for sure. I really want to know why he's been left out because from his performances on the pitch I agree that it isn't warranted

I don't think there is any doubt some serious shit is going on behind the scenes and i am sure some of Stubbins questionable selections and formations or lack thereof are contributing in some way.

If you were a player you would have every right to ask yourself what is the difference between now and under the pubic haired muppet , So far you would have to say nothing.

As for the game itself and the result i think Mulvey will be safe after this weekend, WE have a knack of saving everybody elses bacon except our own.

Roar 3-0

[Jeterpool]

THE REFEREE: – Alan Milliner

The W-D-L record under Milliner is 2-2-2. The one match he has refereed at Hunter Stadium was a 2-1 win over the Melbourne Victory.
Milliner has never shown a red card in any Jets fixture. He does, however, quite freely show yellow cards at an average of 4.5 per match.
He has never awarded either team a penalty in a Jets fixture.
Milliner was last week involved in the controversial re-take of a free-kick by Sydney because he had not yet blown his whistle to resume play.
The Jets matches Milliner officiates tend to have plenty of goals, with an average of just under 3 per match scored.
He’s never officiated a Jets v Roar clash.

[Ranger-86]

Hmm 40 degrees today , I dont like a chance of a cameo performance from A.Puddle... Was keen to get on him for 1st goalscorer aswell.

[hawk]

Hmm 40 degrees today , I dont like a chance of a cameo performance from A.Puddle... Was keen to get on him for 1st goalscorer aswell.

My favourite player is AP.
Carn God, just give us some rain 150 ml would be fine.
ps give me no sign if this is going to happen......thanks

[Grimario]

So, Madaschi and Celeski to both debut tonight?

[howardyou]

So, Madaschi and Celeski to both debut tonight?

Hopefully. We need more steele now that Jeremy Irons has left.

[MFKS]

THE REFEREE: – Alan Milliner

The W-D-L record under Milliner is 2-2-2. The one match he has refereed at Hunter Stadium was a 2-1 win over the Melbourne Victory.
Milliner has never shown a red card in any Jets fixture. He does, however, quite freely show yellow cards at an average of 4.5 per match.
He has never awarded either team a penalty in a Jets fixture.
Milliner was last week involved in the controversial re-take of a free-kick by Sydney because he had not yet blown his whistle to resume play.
The Jets matches Milliner officiates tend to have plenty of goals, with an average of just under 3 per match scored.
He’s never officiated a Jets v Roar clash.


Types this blokes name into Google images to remind myself who this clown is and all you get are pics of this **** booking Jets players
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alan+Milliner+League+Rd+5+Perth+v+Newcastle+c0yTzA yvEbSl.jpghttp://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/01/17/1226804/537820-17fa4f88-7f57-11e3-b5e9-5dbf65914dfa.jpg

[joel31]

So, Madaschi and Celeski to both debut tonight?
according to the website celeski will at least

[plague]

Just letting you know I bet cash money on the Jets to win tonight.
Hahaha sucked in all of em.

[380]

Hmm 40 degrees today , I dont like a chance of a cameo performance from A.Puddle... Was keen to get on him for 1st goalscorer aswell.


maybe if we all go out onto the pitch before the game and piss in that very same spot might help some.

[WolfMan]

Halve a half/full double of Jets/Roar at $29/1

A vain attempt to alleviate any potential heartache from throwing the game away

[plague]

Grass looks nice. I'll miss it when it's gone.

[joel31]

Clear penalty

[joel31]

What a save from Birraz

[Grimario]

Stubbins doesn't have a clue, does he?

[joel31]

Stubbins doesn't have a clue, does he?
We do have a complete lack of penetration

[belchardo]

this match has me on the edge of my seat...

[Ranger-86]

F@ck this is frustrating , how do we expect to score when we have 2 bodies in the final 3rd and they have 6....as long as we win the possession count i spose nothing matters........ Stubby Van Egmond should learn to change or face the same fate as his cousin

[Grimario]

this match has me on the edge of my seat...

Me too. Hanging out for half time so I don't miss any of our shit while I take a piss.

[Ranger-86]

this match has me on the edge of my seat...

You on the toilet??

[belchardo]

Stubbins doesn't have a clue, does he?

highlights of the set up so far:

griff and montano being in the same place at the same time repeatedly
distribution from birra to stubbins wide on the right
the amazing skills of kew getting up and down the wing

seriously, i feel like i could genuinely set out a better line up that he has tonight.

[plague]

Good harf boys.

[plague]

Wait, which team were we?

[belchardo]

silver linings - we didn't concede, birra actually came for a cross in the 6 yard box

[belchardo]

we're also looking ok in the cricket.

[Grimario]

highlights of the set up so far:

griff and montano being in the same place at the same time repeatedly
distribution from birra to stubbins wide on the right
the amazing skills of kew getting up and down the wing

seriously, i feel like i could genuinely set out a better line up that he has tonight.

One of the two young guys that have played a bunch of right back would do a better job than Jaliens. Even gallaway ffs. Okay,that's a bit of a stretch.

Carney and Regan off. Jaliens central, whoever is on the bench to right back, two up top, diamond midfield with Flores at the point.

[belchardo]

....as long as we win the possession count i spose nothing matters........

jets 40%, roar 60%

[belchardo]

One of the two young guys that have played a bunch of right back would do a better job than Jaliens. Even gallaway ffs. Okay,that's a bit of a stretch.

Carney and Regan off. Jaliens central, whoever is on the bench to right back, two up top, diamond midfield with Flores at the point.

jeronimo, flores, welsh, virgili. which one do you want at right back :lulz:

guess you could put BK there.

[Grimario]

Can that, it's Welsh on the bench. ****ing shambles.

[Grimario]

jeronimo, flores, welsh, virgili. which one do you want at right back :lulz:

guess you could put BK there.

Forgot hope was of with young Socceroos, had assumed it was him.

Poor Pepper.

[plague]

we're also looking ok in the cricket.

Cricket was over before it began. We can't defend 450 against these cunce. They'll do 300 with overs to spare.

[joel31]

Zane said we're going to 4-4-2

[Ranger-86]

2 up front.... I just spoofed all over the lounge

[belchardo]

Cricket was over before it began. We can't defend 450 against these cunce. They'll do 300 with overs to spare.

they only bat down to number 5. one more wicket and we'll do it.

[The Dunster]

Stubbins is clueless.

Team is shit.

Welcome to the abortion.

[belchardo]

Zane said we're going to 4-4-2

is that cause griff and montano keep getting in each others way? seems more organised if you say you're doing it deliberately.

[Grimario]

442 as bad as 433. Griff would have tracked that, Caravella nowhere to be seen.

[joel31]

Here it goes again

[plague]

Tough break there. Totally against the run of play.

[Grimario]

Thought that was career ending hamstring tear for Jaliens then.

[belchardo]

Tough break there. Totally against the run of play.

it's alright, we'll bounce back.

:lulzturtle:

[outsider]

So here we go again-why was Jaliens so far out of position-playing shit and never look like getting close to the Roar goal-what excuse is Phil using this week?

[Grimario]

So here we go again-why was Jaliens so far out of position-playing shit and never look like getting close to the Roar goal-what excuse is Phil using this week?

Is it him or Regan at right back? Jaliens is smack bang in the heart of the back line right there.

[belchardo]

So here we go again-why was Jaliens so far out of position-playing shit and never look like getting close to the Roar goal-what excuse is Phil using this week?

http://www.alanpardewsrandomexcusegenerator.com/

[joel31]

Roundabout off. Aytec Genc thinks Virgili is brilliant

[Ranger-86]

Playing at home.. Roar 17 attempts at goal, jets 1

[belchardo]

Is it him or Regan at right back? Jaliens is smack bang in the heart of the back line right there.

Kew. i think we're trying to stay strong in the middle.

[weston]

Edited: Copy and paste fail.... EPICALLY

[belchardo]

top tackle there kanta.

good save though birra.

[joel31]

He saves them to the left
He saves them to the right
Our boy Birraz
He saves them all night

[weston]

Welsh on for Celeski.

He does realise we are 1-0 down. Which means we need to score. Well I think that's what he should be aiming for. Has this changed?

Also love the amount of swearing.

[joel31]

Why welsh?
Should have brought on Flores

[belchardo]

Welsh on for Celeski.

He does realise we are 1-0 down. Which means we need to score. Well I think that's what he should be aiming for. Has this changed?

Also love the amount of swearing.


Why welsh?
Should have brought on Flores

ahahahahaha. you guys crack me up. that kind of tactical naivety is why you're watching at home and stubs is sitting in the plastic chair.

[weston]

Has Tinks stopped paying these cunce? Sure as hell looks like it.

[belchardo]

nice goal, but has kew gone on a "go slow" protest?

[joel31]

I saw it coming.

[Grimario]

Absolutely ****ing disgraceful.

Stubbins out.

[joel31]

Give us the spoon now

[weston]

ahahahahaha. you guys crack me up. that kind of tactical naivety is why you're watching at home and stubs is sitting in the plastic chair.

Was he aiming on keeping the score from blowing out? Looks like he failed at that. Stubbs out.

[joel31]

Grimario in

[plague]

@NewcastleJetsFC The Jets are proud to announce Jacob Pepper as the winner of our player of the year award for season 2014/15.

?

[Grimario]

Regan red coming to ice the cake.

[Grimario]

Grimario in
Bring the lad back home.

[weston]

^ says everything. Season already over.

[belchardo]

Was he aiming on keeping the score from blowing out? Looks like he failed at that. Stubbs out.

#possessionistheonlystatthatmatters

[joel31]

ahahahahaha. you guys crack me up. that kind of tactical naivety is why you're watching at home and stubs is sitting in the plastic chair.
Its not naivity. Against Nix in pre-season Flores came into the centre of midfield and did very well.

A change of structure could have also been a possibility

[weston]

#possessionistheonlystatthatmatters

Think we are losing that also.

Try lowest score wins.

[goaliepersempre]

what the ****... do we want the ball do we want to win it back... no hunger.... absolute pedestrian...

[belchardo]

Its not naivity. Against Nix in pre-season Flores came into the centre of midfield and did very well.

A change of structure could have also been a possibility

don't worry joel, i was being sarcastic.

[belchardo]

what the ****... do we want the ball do we want to win it back... no hunger.... absolute pedestrian...

more like this

http://patkaybites.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/happy-smug-sloth.jpg

[outsider]

Total surrender-just raise the white flag-what a pathetic effort.No doubt Phil will be able to shed light on what is happening

[Grimario]

Hope stubbins enjoys egg on his face. Mind games with the reigning premiership coach backfired in a big way.

It's a bit sad that the worst keeper in the league has been mentioned once all game.

Stubbins out.

[goaliepersempre]

beyond a joke now....

[Grimario]

Think we are losing that also.

Try lowest score wins.

Golf? Disc golf?

[Grimario]

Anyone know where in Adelaide his wife runs her hair salon? Might go have a word to her, get her to convince him to quit.

[Fairgo]

embarrassing!!

[joel31]

Even Griff didn't really seem to care tonight

[belchardo]

Hope stubbins enjoys egg on his face. Mind games with the reigning premiership coach backfired in a big way.

It's a bit sad that the worst keeper in the league has been mentioned once all game.

Stubbins out.

in all honesty i feel sorry for stubbs. he has no money, which meant he signed several pedestrian players and is stuck with several pedestrian players signed by GVE. he also has shit training facilities and shit support staff (looking at you clayton). he's on a hiding to nothing. the only thing he had going for him was the fans, and, well, we're a fickle lot aren't we?

[lquiquer]

Spot on Stubbins
899

[belchardo]

nice no-look header there by welsh.

[plague]

in all honesty i feel sorry for stubbs. he has no money, which meant he signed several pedestrian players and is stuck with several pedestrian players signed by GVE. he also has shit training facilities and shit support staff (looking at you clayton). he's on a hiding to nothing. the only thing he had going for him was the fans, and, well, we're a fickle lot aren't we?

Geez mate, wait til you see the cricket.

[The Dunster]

It's almost like training for the Roar only the witches hats here are blue.

[belchardo]

Geez mate, wait til you see the cricket.

the only hope for the night is tara.

[belchardo]

**** me. 78% of people think carney is our best hope!

[joel31]

We own Parramatta stadium
We'll win next week

[Grimario]

in all honesty i feel sorry for stubbs. he has no money, which meant he signed several pedestrian players and is stuck with several pedestrian players signed by GVE. he also has shit training facilities and shit support staff (looking at you clayton). he's on a hiding to nothing. the only thing he had going for him was the fans, and, well, we're a fickle lot aren't we?

Could put Messi and Ronaldo out there up front and we'd still be awful. Tactically stubbins has no ****ing idea. Shit bench options, shit substitutions, shit squad selection to begin with. And he's clearly come from the school of GVE when it comes to player management, half of the team don't look like they want to be out there at all.

A few Adelaide locals warned me about this :-( called him an old school English scream from the sideline coach.

[Grimario]

the only hope for the night is tara.

She's got some weird nose wrinkle happening when she was doing interviews. Ruined it for me.

[joel31]

Woeful throw

[belchardo]

She's got some weird nose wrinkle happening when she was doing interviews. Ruined it for me.

you want to spit in my beer and ruin that for me as well? :tongue:

[joel31]

Our defence are cones

[belchardo]

It's almost like training for the Roar only the witches hats here are blue.

:whistling:

[outsider]

Our defence are cones

cones defend better than our lot

[belchardo]

kew at right back: NEVER AGAIN!

[joel31]

Feel sorry for Birraz. Not really at fault of any of the goals. Made seem decent saves and looked genuinely upset when we conceded. More phased than most

[Grimario]

you want to spit in my beer and ruin that for me as well? :tongue:

Nah, beer is bad enough without me spitting in it.

[The Dunster]

4-0. The score could be 8-0 though and Middleby and Stubbins will still have their jobs.

Glad I never renewed my membership and commiserations to those that have wasted their hard earned on this shit.

[Thomas477]

I said Kew at RB was going to be a mistake.

Wasn't wrong.

[joel31]

Don't you love how we boot ball forward aimlessly and hope something happens?

[Grimario]

cones defend better than our lot

Can confirm. Have been tackled more often by cones in Fifa than any of this lot tonight.

[belchardo]

LOL, just realised griffo and montano were still on the field. could have had a picnic up front for all the action they got.

[The Dunster]

Can't wait for the after match Presser. Anything other than Stubbins announcing his resignation will not be sufficient as far as I'm concerned.

[joel31]

Welsh had a 35% pass completion rate

[la bazzle]

That was awesome. I'm glad we've found some promising form after our terrible start to the season.
Maybe we are a chance to go back to back! Brisbane 4 LyFe

[Grimario]

4-0. The score could be 8-0 though and Middleby and Stubbins will still have their jobs.

Glad I never renewed my membership and commiserations to those that have wasted their hard earned on this shit.

Glad I moved interstate so I didn't fork out the cash to watch it each home game.

Livid I got foxtel so I do watch it all in glorious high def.

[belchardo]

god, even Tara seems like she can't be arsed.

[belchardo]

Glad I moved interstate so I didn't fork out the cash to watch it each home game.

Livid I got foxtel so I do watch it all in glorious high def.

i did both. non-ticketed membership - $70, foxtel monthly subscription $80 (odd), feeling i get after watching the jets play - priceless

[Grimario]

i did both. non-ticketed membership - $70, foxtel monthly subscription $80 (odd), feeling i get after watching the jets play - priceless

Nah, you're mixing terms up there. Valueless is what you mean.

[belchardo]

Nah, you're mixing terms up their. Valueless is what you mean.

:lulz:

[joel31]

Fozzie criticising man marking

[hawk]

i did both. non-ticketed membership - $70, foxtel monthly subscription $80 (odd), feeling i get after watching the jets play - priceless

lolz

were are putting up the great fight just like in our advertising campaign.

I dont think we need to make any changes, all good.

[joel31]

Regan shouldn't play again this season. He's been a huge liability

[belchardo]

Geez mate, wait til you see the cricket.

back in the game! 6-207, 90 odd off 70 odd balls.

[joel31]

We're already almost a quarter of the way through the season

[Grimario]

What the **** is with people on twitter calling Montano the worst ever Jets import (except for Jardel)?

[The Dunster]

"Don't really know" - That's Phil Stubbins analysis.

Onya Phil.

[joel31]

What the **** is with people on twitter calling Montano the worst ever Jets import (except for Jardel)?
He had no support and almost no supply. What on earth can he do?

[belchardo]

We're already almost a quarter of the way through the season

yes! slightly more than 3/4 of the season to get through then! (gonna need more beer)

[Grimario]

"Don't really know" - That's Phil Stubbins analysis.

Onya Phil.

That was his response? What was the question?!

[The Dunster]

What the **** is with people on twitter calling Montano the worst ever Jets import (except for Jardel)?

One of GVE's multis for sure.

[belchardo]

excellent, according to stubbs we're going to be "honest with ourselves" in the coming week.

i'm feeling much relieved.

[Grimario]

yes! slightly more than 3/4 of the season to get through then! (gonna need more beer)

Found a half a bottle of dry ginger ale to go with my cheap whiskey.

Definitely going to need more before the season is out. What are the odds on WSW losing this weekend and us playing them back into form next weekend?

[belchardo]

pretty sure i can see a hand trying to unpick the montefiore cheese sponsorship from stubbs shirt.

[joel31]

Just what we need with Tinks wanting to walk out
A wooden spoon

[belchardo]

wow, i just agreed with harps! the jets do need to apologise to the fans.

[The Dunster]

That was his response? What was the question?!

Lucy Zelic asked: "What went wrong"

[380]

Get the useless dicks to call AMI so they can learn to harden the f&*k up and start performing.

[lquiquer]

Fozzie criticising man marking

You sure it's not: Non marking?

[Grimario]

Lucy Zelic asked: "What went wrong"

Jesus christ.

[Retro Jet]

Had to watch FTA tonight. One word - Lacklustre.
Retro has seen a lot of sh!t performances and had to endure some pretty lean seasons since I started watching in 1979.
This one is shaping up to be one of the worst.... Toughest time to be a Newie fan.

We can go on about supporting the team, the club etc but was that performance indicative of what Newcastle football is about?
Newie imposters across the board who are no representative of who we are.
Like I said, I've seen many a poor season at National and State League levels but at least in the past you felt the healthy smattering
of locals in those squads actually gave a sh!t.

[MFKS]

I have decided I will not post tonight about the game or the general state of the club.
I have already consulted a solicitor and have been advised to my rights which are to remain silent before I get sued.


So decided to take the moral high road tonight and be the most level headed person on the foz and listen to you blokes do your nuts

Let the madness commence:popcorn:

[Grimario]

in all honesty i feel sorry for stubbs. he has no money, which meant he signed several pedestrian players and is stuck with several pedestrian players signed by GVE. he also has shit training facilities and shit support staff (looking at you clayton). he's on a hiding to nothing. the only thing he had going for him was the fans, and, well, we're a fickle lot aren't we?
Instead of signing a bunch of pedestrian turd from out of state...

Like I said, I've seen many a poor season at National and State League levels but at least in the past you felt the healthy smattering
of locals in those squads actually gave a sh!t.

If we are going to be shit, at least be shit with a bunch of blokes who care when they are losing.

[baldrick]

I have decided I will not post tonight about the game or the general state of the club.
I have already consulted a solicitor and have been advised to my rights which are to remain silent before I get sued.


So decided to take the moral high road tonight and be the most level headed person on the foz and listen to you blokes do your nuts

Let the madness commence:popcorn:


Who are you and how did you hack into MFKS account ?


:p

[borat]

Squad selections were really poor but more alarmingly was how the players on the pitch went about their game. The lack of cohesion was appalling with no idea going forward. It was the type of performance that changing players just won't make a difference. It was that bad

Squad wise

Jaliens - wtf was Stubbins thinking. Then to not select Pepper or Galoway as a fullback option on the bench was plain insanity.

Regan - is not and has never been good enough. Gets targeted by opposition teams and exposed.

Joel Griffiths - stop playing him wide. Just stop it, it doesn't work. Either play him on the point of attack or play 2 striker ( one called Joel and the can be....who really cares who the other is)

Midfield - is so so bad. Every week we are outclassed. Celeski was short of a run tonight but I saw enough to see him coming good. Choose a partner out of Kanta and Caravella to play deep and stop playing Caravella as a 10 ffs. If we play with 1 striker then make it Joel with Flores in behind. If we play with 2 strikers then forget the 10.

[Jeterpool]

I usually try to be a glass half full type person but in this case, I've turned and I'm going full MFKS on you all.

**** me that was terrible! 2 shots! 2 ****ing shots on goal, at home against the team currently occupying last place...well were last before tonight. We set out to try and defend a 0-0 score line.

Kew Jaliens did my head in tonight. The bloke had no discipline what so ever. For the third goal he was at left wing! Our right back was at left wing! Regain gone done up by Henrique but fuxk me dead Jaliens did nothing to help him.

I could clearly tell Madaschi hadn't played for a umpteen weeks. Needs his eyes checked because he kept passing to the ball boys. Only thing is can say is they were wearing blue too.

Why oh why do we persist with 4-3-3. It's not working. And why have frigging foreign players if you aren't going to use them!? Flores has to have done something.

Our movement was crap. We seem scared to even try a pass forward to the box because we'll turn it over. Instead we pass it back and turn it over there.

Our backs were so slow, so why play such a high line? We invited Brisbane to enter our half with zero pressure...why? We hold off Bratten time and time again and let him shoot. Why no pressure?

I'm livid after that. While his distribution was crap, Birraz kept the from being a slaughter. He made some outstanding saves.

And Stubbins was sitting there, arm over the back of the chair and I didn't see him move once. His naivety is costing us. To say he has no idea why things went wrong is infuriating. You're the ****ing coach! It's your job!!!!

I feel most sorry for the crowd. We turn up religiously week after week, even after 4, no 6 years of crap football and we deserve a break. If this were the gypos they'd have folded.

The only positive is that it's an international break and I can't watch liverpool lose this weekend either.

Argh!!

[Tommyjet]

Hard to pick the worst player on the pitch tonight but I've gone with caravella. Zenon was absolutely honkingly awful. He basically played as an extra man for them in midfield, breaking up our plays with aplomb and starting the roar on their attacks and rarely chasing back. Retirement suited u zenon. Honourable mentions to the rest of the team bar celeski. I see him coming good once he blows the rustiness away.

[hausmann]

The only spark for the Jets in the game was that 2 minutes or less that Joel was in the centre, before he was yanked. Phil, you have tried everything else, why not play 442 with Joel at the pointy end?

[redwah]

I usually try to be a glass half full type person but in this case, I've turned and I'm going full MFKS on you all.

**** me that was terrible! 2 shots! 2 ****ing shots on goal, at home against the team currently occupying last place...well were last before tonight. We set out to try and defend a 0-0 score line.

Kew Jaliens did my head in tonight. The bloke had no discipline what so ever. For the third goal he was at left wing! Our right back was at left wing! Regain gone done up by Henrique but fuxk me dead Jaliens did nothing to help him.

I could clearly tell Madaschi hadn't played for a umpteen weeks. Needs his eyes checked because he kept passing to the ball boys. Only thing is can say is they were wearing blue too.

Why oh why do we persist with 4-3-3. It's not working. And why have frigging foreign players if you aren't going to use them!? Flores has to have done something.

Our movement was crap. We seem scared to even try a pass forward to the box because we'll turn it over. Instead we pass it back and turn it over there.

Our backs were so slow, so why play such a high line? We invited Brisbane to enter our half with zero pressure...why? We hold off Bratten time and time again and let him shoot. Why no pressure?

I'm livid after that. While his distribution was crap, Birraz kept the from being a slaughter. He made some outstanding saves.

And Stubbins was sitting there, arm over the back of the chair and I didn't see him move once. His naivety is costing us. To say he has no idea why things went wrong is infuriating. You're the ****ing coach! It's your job!!!!

I feel most sorry for the crowd. We turn up religiously week after week, even after 4, no 6 years of crap football and we deserve a break. If this were the gypos they'd have folded.

The only positive is that it's an international break and I can't watch liverpool lose this weekend either.

Argh!!
Couldn't agree more....why do we continually change line up and not once get it right....I don't know how many on here have coaching badges but to me it seems that there is a vast array of knowledge (I even agreed with the member once in a moment of insanity) but I don't see anywhere where anyone is calling for constant change of line up. So either stubbins and GVE before him know something about the jets players that no one else can see or we are all idiots.

If stubbins continues to play Caravella in any way we will not score another goal this year.

[q-money]

didn't even watch and had a bloody great night.

[MFKS]

didn't even watch and had a bloody great night.
Where the **** is captain obvious when you need him

Of course you had a great night.

Everyone who didn't watch the game ****ing did too

[Jetmaster]

Probably the worst performance I have seen from a Newcastle national league side.....right back to 1977!

Four centre backs in defence, nothing in midfield and insipid attack.

Just put out our best team and let it gel....Edson, Jeronimo and Griff rotating a two man attack, Flores behind, Celeski screening, Kew and Madaschi as the central defence. Build around that....playing guys out of position is so GVE !

[judge]

Wasn't Billy Celeski the missing link. Peter Brady playing right back obviously wasn't . Worst Jets performance since GVE was coach. Only player unavailable was Hooley. Pepps wasn't required, in the words of Toovey there needs to be an investigation.
Probably the worst performance I have seen from a Newcastle national league side.....right back to 1977!

Four centre backs in defence, nothing in midfield and insipid attack.

Just put out our best team and let it gel....Edson, Jeronimo and Griff rotating a two man attack, Flores behind, Celeski screening, Kew and Madaschi as the central defence. Build around that....playing guys out of position is so GVE !

[Thomas477]

As I said when we signed him, Celeski was not the final missing piece we needed. He's for another puzzle altogether, one that results in a successful football club and has Middleby, Palmer, Baartz, Zane, Stubbins, and even Bridges no where ****ing near it! Bring back Con!

[A.J.]

Left after 80 mins, first time I've ever left before full time, and that's including watching The Breakers at Birmingham Gardens. Who got the movie tickets? I hope they choose a shitty movie when they go. ****s

[lquiquer]

From Four Four Two

MARK BIRIGHITTI – 6 Made plenty of great saves in the game and kept the Jets in the game in the first half with a great save from Borello, was unlucky to concede 4, could have been more if it wasn’t for his penalty save from Dimitri Petratos.
SAM GALLAGHER – 5 Very difficult game for the Jets and ordinary defensive performance from all.
ADRIAN MADASCHI – 5 Wasn’t a debut to remember for Madashi and Newcastle’s ordinary defence.
KEW JALIENS (C) – 4.5 Found it difficult to contain Solorzano in the first half, and was out of position on a numerous of occasions, especially for the first goal to Brisbane.
TAYLOR REGAN – 4.5 Allowed Henrique to run at him for the 3rd and 4th goal and was very ordinary in defence
BILLY CELESKI – 5 Playing his first game for Newcastle but lacked any support from his teammates.
BEN KANTAROVSKI – 4.5 Turned over the ball and also gave away a penalty.
ZENON CARAVELLA – 5 Offered nothing in midfield and was substituted early in the second half.
DAVID CARNEY – 7 Looked like the only player who could make something for Newcastle, and was the go to man for the Jets.
JOEL GRIFFITHS – 5 Quiet in the first half, didn’t link well with Montaro turning over the ball.
EDSON MONTANO – 4.5 Didn’t get the ball much in the first half but did well to hold onto it when he had it.

A bit generous with Carney and Birraz kicking game is atrocious

[Grimario]

Just put out our best team and let it gel....Edson, Jeronimo and Griff rotating a two man attack, Flores behind, Celeski screening, Kew and Madaschi as the central defence. Build around that....playing guys out of position is so GVE !

If Neville is fit, he is an automatic starter as well. Pepper too.

Why the **** was Carney on the Fox Sports poll of "Is Carney the Jets go-to man?" If so, we are ****ed because he has been pretty average.

Unless Steele comes back and comes good, **** wingers. Hoole will have to make do being back up fullback because our left side options are awful and Griff is wasted on the the right.

[Grimario]

From Four Four Two

MARK BIRIGHITTI – 6 Made plenty of great saves in the game and kept the Jets in the game in the first half with a great save from Borello, was unlucky to concede 4, could have been more if it wasn’t for his penalty save from Dimitri Petratos.
SAM GALLAGHER – 5 Very difficult game for the Jets and ordinary defensive performance from all.
ADRIAN MADASCHI – 5 Wasn’t a debut to remember for Madashi and Newcastle’s ordinary defence.
KEW JALIENS (C) – 4.5 Found it difficult to contain Solorzano in the first half, and was out of position on a numerous of occasions, especially for the first goal to Brisbane.
TAYLOR REGAN – 4.5 Allowed Henrique to run at him for the 3rd and 4th goal and was very ordinary in defence
BILLY CELESKI – 5 Playing his first game for Newcastle but lacked any support from his teammates.
BEN KANTAROVSKI – 4.5 Turned over the ball and also gave away a penalty.
ZENON CARAVELLA – 5 Offered nothing in midfield and was substituted early in the second half.
DAVID CARNEY – 7 Looked like the only player who could make something for Newcastle, and was the go to man for the Jets.
JOEL GRIFFITHS – 5 Quiet in the first half, didn’t link well with Montaro turning over the ball.
EDSON MONTANO – 4.5 Didn’t get the ball much in the first half but did well to hold onto it when he had it.

A bit generous with Carney and Birraz kicking game is atrocious

How Jaliens, Regan, Caravella or Kanta got anything above a 2 is beyond me.

Honestly no idea what anyone saw in Carney tonight either.
And don't understand why Montano seems to be summarily slated by everyone... got the ball pinged to him from distance, turned with 5 blokes on him and **** all support most of the time.

[Mitchy]

Hope Brisbane win the league from here tbh

[GazFish35]

1 man isolated up front at home against a team yet to win.
Water the pitch against steam known for slick passing.

I've seen it all now.

[GazFish35]

Just put out our best team and let it gel....Edson, Jeronimo and Griff rotating a two man attack, Flores behind, Celeski screening, Kew and Madaschi as the central defence. Build around that....playing guys out of position is so GVE !

This

[Newy]

I usually try to be a glass half full type person but in this case, I've turned and I'm going full MFKS on you all.

**** me that was terrible! 2 shots! 2 ****ing shots on goal, at home against the team currently occupying last place...well were last before tonight. We set out to try and defend a 0-0 score line.

Kew Jaliens did my head in tonight. The bloke had no discipline what so ever. For the third goal he was at left wing! Our right back was at left wing! Regain gone done up by Henrique but fuxk me dead Jaliens did nothing to help him.

I could clearly tell Madaschi hadn't played for a umpteen weeks. Needs his eyes checked because he kept passing to the ball boys. Only thing is can say is they were wearing blue too.

Why oh why do we persist with 4-3-3. It's not working. And why have frigging foreign players if you aren't going to use them!? Flores has to have done something.

Our movement was crap. We seem scared to even try a pass forward to the box because we'll turn it over. Instead we pass it back and turn it over there.

Our backs were so slow, so why play such a high line? We invited Brisbane to enter our half with zero pressure...why? We hold off Bratten time and time again and let him shoot. Why no pressure?

I'm livid after that. While his distribution was crap, Birraz kept the from being a slaughter. He made some outstanding saves.

And Stubbins was sitting there, arm over the back of the chair and I didn't see him move once. His naivety is costing us. To say he has no idea why things went wrong is infuriating. You're the ****ing coach! It's your job!!!!

I feel most sorry for the crowd. We turn up religiously week after week, even after 4, no 6 years of crap football and we deserve a break. If this were the gypos they'd have folded.

The only positive is that it's an international break and I can't watch liverpool lose this weekend either.

Argh!!

It's cos the team hates each other

[Tommyjet]

It's cos the team hates each other

Can certainly sense something very wrong behind the scenes, anyone been to training lately

[MFKS]

These cunce better not be at a coffee shop this week

[Retro Jet]

It's cos the team hates each other


Can certainly sense something very wrong behind the scenes, anyone been to training lately

Who? One of us, the fans or the players??? :tongue:

[JCBT]

It's cos the team hates each other
They will be playing to an empty stadium soon if this shit football continues.

[redwah]

What team? We haven't had the same 11 start a match all season. I ****in hate this shit of changing every week....how the **** are the players supposed to get used to each other.

What the hell was stubbins thinking putting Kew in the fullback role...sheer stupidity.
Why does reagen think he can continue to play 50yard cross field balls when he hasn't hit a red and blue shirt with one yet?
Why does Birraz continue to try to hit the wide guys when he finds the stand each time,yet has 2v2 up front when we are chasing the game? One time Neumann was on his own straight up the guts with no roar player within 30m and Birraz hung onto the ball and found the sideline again.

[baldrick]

I don't think Craig Foz could have called us horrid any more times than he did in the SBS post game show

[sammydog]

I don't think Craig Foz could have called us horrid any more times than he did in the SBS post game show

Not often I agree with him. And I don't with the horrid call, we were far, far worse than horrid.

[380]

They said on fox we were even lucky to end up with 0 next to our name.

[Skirt Boy]

This is how bad we were.

The old man was even screaming after the game telling Stubbins to **** off.

[Bon]

So it would appear that I made the correct decision to go to Sydney and see Doug Stanhope, than to watch the "game"??

[halo se7en]

Can anyone tell me, even if Birraz had actually hit Griffiths ONCE in that first half... what the **** was Griff supposed to do with the ball from that point anyway?? He's hugging the sideline with a roar player barely a metre away and the ball's flying at/over his head. What's the next step? On the odd occasion Birraz miscued it and went down the middle, Montano repeatedly outmuscled his defender, brought the ball down, and then looked for support.. only to see ****ING NONE. **** me Birraz/Stubbins, if something is working KEEP ****ING DOING IT! But no, we decided to start finding touch again in the second half. That's the type of dumb shit that made me want to burn my jersey last night.

[Buddha]

How is Welsh going to change the game? Bring on Flores and give us a hope not try and limit the damage for ****s sake? Poor Monty, great first touch and strength, looks up and it's like he's got Ebola, no teammates anywhere ****ing near him, Jaliens as a RB? Wtf is that shit, WTF Has Peppz done to not even get picked on the bench? Caravella is a waste of time and money, also why substitute the only bloke out there who showed any sort of passion and guts in Griff so early, the bloke runs all day and two foots ****s from the 1st minute and his reward is the hook.

Birraz
Neville. Kew. Madaschi. Gallagher
Celeski
Hoole/Neumann. Carney
Flores
Griff. Monty

That's how it ****ing should be

[redwah]

Can anyone tell me, even if Birraz had actually hit Griffiths ONCE in that first half... what the **** was Griff supposed to do with the ball from that point anyway?? He's hugging the sideline with a roar player barely a metre away and the ball's flying at/over his head. What's the next step? On the odd occasion Birraz miscued it and went down the middle, Montano repeatedly outmuscled his defender, brought the ball down, and then looked for support.. only to see ****ING NONE. **** me Birraz/Stubbins, if something is working KEEP ****ING DOING IT! But no, we decided to start finding touch again in the second half. That's the type of dumb shit that made me want to burn my jersey last night.

Couldn't agree more. No matter how good any ball is anywhere on the park it's the next thing to happen that counts. To many times our players get a decent ball but have little or no option to move it on (or in caravella's case take the wrong option and stifle an attack). They either lose it or play it to someone in a worse position or play some Pass that an Olympic sprinter wouldn't get near.

I honestly don't know what they work on in training...fitness still not up to it, basics aren't there for some of them and tactics are terrible.

[Grimario]

Deadset, woke up with a hangover this morning and vague recollections of the game. Reading all this again makes me realise it wasn't just a bad nightmare, was reality.

[Tommyjet]

How is Welsh going to change the game? Bring on Flores and give us a hope not try and limit the damage for ****s sake? Poor Monty, great first touch and strength, looks up and it's like he's got Ebola, no teammates anywhere ****ing near him, Jaliens as a RB? Wtf is that shit, WTF Has Peppz done to not even get picked on the bench? Caravella is a waste of time and money, also why substitute the only bloke out there who showed any sort of passion and guts in Griff so early, the bloke runs all day and two foots ****s from the 1st minute and his reward is the hook.

Birraz
Neville. Kew. Madaschi. Gallagher
Celeski
Hoole/Neumann. Carney
Flores
Griff. Monty

That's how it ****ing should be

That would basically end up with celeski alone in midfield getting raped.
Personally I'd go same formation but griff replacing caravella and being given licence to roam and occasionally rest up top. Griff could drop and harass the deep playmakers like brattan and also break and supply more help to monty. I feel Flores would reduce the pathetic leg speed we already have but he should be at least getting 20 min especially when we are behind and chasing a game.

[Grimario]

That would basically end up with celeski alone in midfield getting raped.

Agreed. **** off with wingers.

Biraz
Nev - Kew - Mad - Carney (because he won't ever get dropped so we might as well build a tactic around him and assume we have no one defending at left back, ever)
Kanta
Pepper - Celeski
Flores
Griff - Montano

Play narrow, have Pepper/Celeski drop back when defending, let Kanta cover for Carney going forward. Griff/Montano drop either side of Flores when defending so it pretty much becomes a 4-3-3 (or 4-2-4 if you consider Kanta will drop back to cover for Carney who will be at right wing,, left wing, tangled up in the net somewhere, never at left back).

[Jetmaster]

That's pretty close to spot-on Grim, that team, allowed to gel should be solid.

[MFKS]

That would basically end up with celeski alone in midfield getting raped.
Personally I'd go same formation but griff replacing caravella and being given licence to roam and occasionally rest up top. Griff could drop and harass the deep playmakers like brattan and also break and supply more help to monty. I feel Flores would reduce the pathetic leg speed we already have but he should be at least getting 20 min especially when we are behind and chasing a game.

I think one thing our coach actually does need to do is actually work out a role for Griffo that will see him spend as many minutes on the park as possible and also have him in a role where the team will benefit most.

I am pretty certain we don't need to have him running after everything that moves in the opposition line up like we currently do so he is spent energy wise after 60-70mins so I struggle to see what you hope to gain by having him chase DM's all day long

Lets face it he is getting older and doesn't have the energy he once did (thank **** his class and enthusiasm hasn't waned)

If we wanted someone to do the running job we should have kept Zads as chasing everything in sight was his area of expertise.

[belchardo]

replay has just started on fox sports 4 if anybody is feeling masochistic.

[halo se7en]

That would basically end up with celeski alone in midfield getting raped.
Personally I'd go same formation but griff replacing caravella and being given licence to roam and occasionally rest up top. Griff could drop and harass the deep playmakers like brattan and also break and supply more help to monty. I feel Flores would reduce the pathetic leg speed we already have but he should be at least getting 20 min especially when we are behind and chasing a game.

It's still better than the entire midfield getting raped.

[the blue manc]

Attendance was over 10k. Lucky to get 500 next home game.

[the blue manc]

Oh and another thing,what was the go with the ground announcer screaming like a banshee. The countdown to kick off was terrible and the rest of the rubbish he went on with.

[MFKS]

replay has just started on fox sports 4 if anybody is feeling masochistic.
The first half upset me more due to the lack of intent and I wanted to go home at HT so didn't want to watch that again but decided to watch the second half.

First thing talk about the togetherness of the players. 1-0 down Birraz saves the pen and sparks the crowd and gives the team hope yet barely gets 2 blokes to give him a pat on the back. Why isn't he mobbed??

Secondly the sheer amount of aimless misplaced passes were mind blowing. These blokes tested for colour blindness or what??

Thirdly the lack of pressing was a ****ing disgrace. On the rare occasions they did one bloke would put in and the blokes around him would not follow up at all and waste the effort

Fourthly Jaliens was ****ing honking.

Blows his stack at the penalty to get a yellow for dissent and pushes the refs patience on other occasions

First goal ran out of the RB spot into the CD spot and opened up the space for Stefanutto run into and lay on the ball. Why??

Third goal we were actually attacking and for some reason the bloke was in the penalty box when we lost the ball. Considering it wasn't a set piece the question has to be asked why the bloke is going the Hollywood play. He then proceeded to run to the left wing spot instead of getting back towards the defence and left his man free to carve Reegz up

Fourth Goal Montano coughs up the ball with a heavy touch. Jaliens just jogs back and couldn't be arsed getting back in a hurry to help his team out and then as soon as it hits the net Birraz and Reegz are venting frustration. What does the captain do?? Turns around walks back to half way and goes and stands on the wing. Couldn't give a flying ****. The body language was ****ing compelling

Strip the bloke of the captaincy and give it so someone who ****ing leads FFS

The general ****ing malaise and lack of intent and intensity from all of them was a ****ing disgrace. Did they do a double training sesssion in the 40C heat earlier in the day??

[Grimario]

Aloisi on Matchday Saturday just did some analysis... basically said "If Stubbins is talking about lack of effort, that's him saying he doesn't want to say he got done tactically on the pitch".

[MFKS]

Aloisi on Matchday Saturday just did some analysis... basically said "If Stubbins is talking about lack of effort, that's him saying he doesn't want to say he got done tactically on the pitch".

Aloisi is in no position to talk.

The bloke can't coach a choko vine over a dunny wall himself.

Phil may be in denial about many things but he is bang on the effort from the players was not up to scratch last night

[The Dunster]

Aloisi on Matchday Saturday just did some analysis... basically said "If Stubbins is talking about lack of effort, that's him saying he doesn't want to say he got done tactically on the pitch".

In: Aloisi

Out: Stubbins

[Grimario]

Aloisi is in no position to talk.

The bloke can't coach a choko vine over a dunny wall himself.

Phil may be in denial about many things but he is bang on the effort from the players was not up to scratch last night

Aloisi's point was that effort or not, the players didn't seem to have a clue what was expected of them. Striker would press, midfield would drop off. One side of midfield would press, striker and other side of mid would drop off. Then he talked about the shambolic organising of the backline, suggested Stubbins dropped it with team selection and expecting a guy that has been out with injury for his entire time at the club to be the answer to everything whilst playing an old bloke out of position was the complete opposite of a tactical masterstroke.

[belchardo]

http://www.a-league.com.au/video/newcastle-jets-press-conference/1045248

presser if you're feeling good

[lquiquer]

Fourthly Jaliens was ****ing honking.

Blows his stack at the penalty to get a yellow for dissent and pushes the refs patience on other occasions

First goal ran out of the RB spot into the CD spot and opened up the space for Stefanutto run into and lay on the ball. Why??

Third goal we were actually attacking and for some reason the bloke was in the penalty box when we lost the ball. Considering it wasn't a set piece the question has to be asked why the bloke is going the Hollywood play. He then proceeded to run to the left wing spot instead of getting back towards the defence and left his man free to carve Reegz up

Fourth Goal Montano coughs up the ball with a heavy touch. Jaliens just jogs back and couldn't be arsed getting back in a hurry to help his team out and then as soon as it hits the net Birraz and Reegz are venting frustration. What does the captain do?? Turns around walks back to half way and goes and stands on the wing. Couldn't give a flying ****. The body language was ****ing compelling

Strip the bloke of the captaincy and give it so someone who ****ing leads FFS


Even Gallaway would have done a better job......:facepalm:

[MFKS]

Even Gallaway would have done a better job......:facepalm:

Unfortunately those blokes were that bad last night Gallaway has to be a big show of walking into the team next week and no **** would have cause to blow up.

Thats how bad we are

[Jetmaster]

Oh and another thing,what was the go with the ground announcer screaming like a banshee. The countdown to kick off was terrible and the rest of the rubbish he went on with.

Agreed - felt like being at a Gypo game. We don't need that rubbish.

[MFKS]

Agreed - felt like being at a Gypo game.

Walking out of the ground last night reminded me of the feeling of desolation I get everytime I leave Shittounge.

Ohh your talking about the ground announcer:sigh:

[Frodo]

I had a massive rant typed out but i deleted it and decided to tell everyone that after i left, after the 2nd goal, i went to Wests and got an amazing Steak from the Chophouse at Wests. It improved my mood so much that i didn't even feel the need to come back and take a piss on the gate of the stadium... as is the thing to in these situations so I've been told.

Hopefully this experience is burnt into Stubbs memory as his worst performance as a coach and he picks a simple, well balanced team next week and stops all this chopping and changing.

[Grimario]

Hopefully this experience is burnt into Stubbs memory as his worst performance as a coach and he picks a simple, well balanced team next week and stops all this chopping and changing.

Ha. We have to play Wanderers in to form next weekend then host the scum who will likely still only have the win against us as their last victory. Definite losses there... and then Nix home, Perth away before we likely get molested 30-0 by Adelaide the weekend before Christmas.

[Frodo]

Ha. We have to play Wanderers in to form next weekend then host the scum who will likely still only have the win against us as their last victory. Definite losses there... and then Nix home, Perth away before we likely get molested 30-0 by Adelaide the weekend before Christmas.

But if he puts out our best team and we lose i won't feel as bad. I don't mind being beaten as long as we put in the effort and are beaten by a better side. Not losing because we played even worse than the other team.

[MFKS]

I don't mind being beaten as long as we put in the effort and are beaten by a better side

Not having a pop at you Frodo but it is ****ing disgraceful our fans feel this way. We should never mind being beaten at all. It is the shite this club dishes up that gives cause for people to accept being beaten.

We need to change our way of thinking and stop accepting defeat as a perfectly normal thing and hate losing. Whilst the expectation is there to disappoint we will continue to do so

[Thomas477]

Not having a pop at you Frodo but it is ****ing disgraceful our fans feel this way. We should never mind being beaten at all. It is the shite this club dishes up that gives cause for people to accept being beaten.

We need to change our way of thinking and stop accepting defeat as a perfectly normal thing and hate losing. Whilst the expectation is there to disappoint we will continue to do so

Totally agree with the member here. The club needs a fundamental culture change, starting at the top.

[hawk]

Totally agree with the member here. The club needs a fundamental culture change, starting at the top.

culture or personnel?

[Jeterpool]

culture or personnel?

If those personnel are capable of affecting a culture change, then only the culture.

[Jetmaster]

It's entirely a cultural thing - like I said before, you could buy the whole Chelsea team for the Jets and they would still struggle.

[Grimario]

Totally agree with the member here. The club needs a fundamental culture change, starting at the top.

The problem isn't that we lose it's that very few seem to care if they lose. Jets are a part check, assuming they are being paid, and at the end of the day most of the guys are mercenaries who will jump ship to more money in a heartbeat. What Frodo is saying is that if you stuck 11 locals representing their hometown on the pitch, their would be a bit of pride in the shirt, a bit of desire to win, not just collect your coin and repeat next weekend.

[Jeterpool]

The problem isn't that we lose it's that very few seem to care if they lose. Jets are a part check, assuming they are being paid, and at the end of the day most of the guys are mercenaries who will jump ship to more money in a heartbeat. What Frodo is saying is that if you stuck 11 locals representing their hometown on the pitch, their would be a bit of pride in the shirt, a bit of desire to win, not just collect your coin and repeat next weekend.

It's all seemed to go down hill since we lost Tsatsimas.

[Thomas477]

The problem isn't that we lose it's that very few seem to care if they lose. Jets are a part check, assuming they are being paid, and at the end of the day most of the guys are mercenaries who will jump ship to more money in a heartbeat. What Frodo is saying is that if you stuck 11 locals representing their hometown on the pitch, their would be a bit of pride in the shirt, a bit of desire to win, not just collect your coin and repeat next weekend.

If the locals aren't good enough, **** em. Would much prefer to have a winning for once, as opposed to a bunch of locals who at least tried, as if trying matters for anything above under 6s.

This whole "at least they tried" thing, as the member said, is a load of crap. Look at the successful clubs in both the a-league and around the world. They expect to win, the fans expect them to, and if they don't, people aren't happy. But with us, it's a case of oh well, they tried, as if they're a bunch of under 6s! It's not good enough to just try as a professional club in a somewhat even competition! They need to want to, and expect to, win. Our club doesn't because we're happy if they try. I am not anymore.

[Grimario]

If the locals aren't good enough, **** em. Would much prefer to have a winning for once, as opposed to a bunch of locals who at least tried, as if trying matters for anything above under 6s.

Are you paying attention? We have a bunch of overpaid underperforming non locals... Where exactly is the winning in that? It's working really really well.

[Jeterpool]

Funny enough I make some notes on some matches to jog my memory. The last time I wrote "one of the worst performances I've seen" was when we played Heart in Melbourne and GvE got sacked. Fortunately I can't really remember it now - were we worse this weekend passed than that match in Melbourne?

[Frodo]

If the locals aren't good enough, **** em. Would much prefer to have a winning for once, as opposed to a bunch of locals who at least tried, as if trying matters for anything above under 6s.

This whole "at least they tried" thing, as the member said, is a load of crap. Look at the successful clubs in both the a-league and around the world. They expect to win, the fans expect them to, and if they don't, people aren't happy. But with us, it's a case of oh well, they tried, as if they're a bunch of under 6s! It's not good enough to just try as a professional club in a somewhat even competition! They need to want to, and expect to, win. Our club doesn't because we're happy if they try. I am not anymore.

Both of you and Grimario make good points. I think that we don't have enough desire and tenacity to win across the entire club. Whether that's because of too many mercenaries or because we have too many locals that aren't good enough i don't know.

All of these issues seem to come from the fact that we don't have any direction. We don't know which way we want to play as a team, we don't know what type of players we want to sign, we don't know what the owner situation is, we don't know if the FFA wants us to stay in the A League...

We need a reshuffle from the top to the bottom, get a 'culture' in place that this is a serious football club and not just a bunch of hicks that will show up no matter what the performance, and get some sort of stability around the place. If we can put 10000 in the stands when we play like this imagine what would happen if we were playing in the ACL or at least the finals?

Gallop was in the stands this weekend surely this was at least an eye opener for him that things are not well. That article that Dillon this week was spot on.

[cobra23]

This is the last thing i am writing in this thread... the jets are ****ed.

[Ranger-86]

If the locals aren't good enough, **** em. Would much prefer to have a winning for once, as opposed to a bunch of locals who at least tried, as if trying matters for anything above under 6s.

This whole "at least they tried" thing, as the member said, is a load of crap. Look at the successful clubs in both the a-league and around the world. They expect to win, the fans expect them to, and if they don't, people aren't happy. But with us, it's a case of oh well, they tried, as if they're a bunch of under 6s! It's not good enough to just try as a professional club in a somewhat even competition! They need to want to, and expect to, win. Our club doesn't because we're happy if they try. I am not anymore.

I have to agree , I think the exact same point has been made numerous times the last few years time and time again.

Your a fool if you want a team of
Locals who are sub par and lose all the time but are happy that they tried.This idiotic attitude of 'oh but he is so newy' has to stop.

We carry so much shite baggage just for the sake that they are local, we have had the same players for the last few years and we cant even make the top 6 in a 10 team comp but we dont seem to get the point we need to drop the baggage and have a mass cleanout.

In my opinion The only locals worth keeping atm is Griff, pepper and maybe hoole.Kanta has had his form
Bursts but we have used him for years and finished no where, BK is the longest serving number 2 GK in a-league history , maybe get another GK to push birraz, Regan and Virgili have proved time and time again that they are just not up to a-league standard and to be honest Id be suprised if they got a gig anywhere else but here.

In the short term we need to drop this shit 'pick a local because he will try' attitude , have a player cleanout and start fresh with a competitive side. In the long term we got to look at the whole youth setup from coaching and pathways to the top. We cannot continue churning out sub par locals and expect to develop a winning culture.

[Tommyjet]

We are lacking 2 main components first and foremost (also other tactical/skill issues but ill start with these two)
1) speed- that would have to be the slowest team we have ever put out. Need more leg speed in midfield and wide defence mainly.
2) a hard-nosed aggressive captain who isn't afraid to put the wind up underperformaning teammates and also put the bit between the teeth and lead by example. As much a kew is great, he isn't the leader we need.

On Friday night I found myself for the first time ever wishing one Rubens zadkovich was out there. I slapped myself and the thought was still there. I asked wife to slap me but refused to infront of so many people. But seriously speed and aggressive leadership. He had it despite his other many flaws

[Frodo]

I have to agree , I think the exact same point has been made numerous times the last few years time and time again.

Your a fool if you want a team of
Locals who are sub par and lose all the time but are happy that they tried.This idiotic attitude of 'oh but he is so newy' has to stop.

We carry so much shite baggage just for the sake that they are local, we have had the same players for the last few years and we cant even make the top 6 in a 10 team comp but we dont seem to get the point we need to drop the baggage and have a mass cleanout.

In my opinion The only locals worth keeping atm is Griff, pepper and maybe hoole.Kanta has had his form
Bursts but we have used him for years and finished no where, BK is the longest serving number 2 GK in a-league history , maybe get another GK to push birraz, Regan and Virgili have proved time and time again that they are just not up to a-league standard and to be honest Id be suprised if they got a gig anywhere else but here.

In the short term we need to drop this shit 'pick a local because he will try' attitude , have a player cleanout and start fresh with a competitive side. In the long term we got to look at the whole youth setup from coaching and pathways to the top. We cannot continue churning out sub par locals and expect to develop a winning culture.

Our problem isn't sub par locals. It's not even bad players that are causing these performances. As someone stated earlier, in an over the top way, if you were to bring the strongest 11 players from the HAL to this club right now it wouldn't guarantee we would win games. We have deeply ingrained problems at this club that need to be fixed before we can have any success. But, whilst that is happening above their heads i'd at least want the players to put in the effort on the pitch so that the fans have a reason to turn up.

The main problem with what is being said is that in order to succeed we need better players... but we need to succeed in order to attract better players. It's a vicious cycle.

Can we just turn this around and start discussing how brilliant Brisbane were? Title Favourites, Henrique for the Ballon 'Dor, Mulvey is a tactical Genius, Franjic and Berisha were overrated and won't do anything at their next teams??? ROFL :lulz:

[Grimario]

Can we just turn this around and start discussing how brilliant Brisbane were? Title Favourites, Henrique for the Ballon 'Dor, Mulvey is a tactical Genius, Franjic and Berisha were overrated and won't do anything at their next teams??? ROFL :lulz:

I miss the days when we had Heskey and he was in the running for the Barn d'Or every year.

[Nou Camp]

players have been saying for a while now that training has been utter shite!!! Phil has no idea
since Phil took over they have only done 30 mins worth of tactics work and that was a video session the day before the perth FFA cup game
they watched an AC milan game from a few years ago where they sat back played 4-5-1 and got the team on the counter attack, 10 mins into the FFA game Phil changed to 442
Thats been the extent of our tatical training for 6 months

confidence is at a all time low and aint getting better anytime soon

[Tommyjet]

players have been saying for a while now that training has been utter shite!!! Phil has no idea
since Phil took over they have only done 30 mins worth of tactics work and that was a video session the day before the perth FFA cup game
they watched an AC milan game from a few years ago where they sat back played 4-5-1 and got the team on the counter attack, 10 mins into the FFA game Phil changed to 442
Thats been the extent of our tatical training for 6 months

confidence is at a all time low and aint getting better anytime soon
Some have been doing extra fitness work too am I right?
The one training session I've been at, clacka ran through the formations and scenarios and it was mainly about getting forward passes happening and less sideways and backwards. Stubbins mainly sat up top and occasionally yelled out a few things. They spent a good hour at it

[Frodo]

players have been saying for a while now that training has been utter shite!!! Phil has no idea
since Phil took over they have only done 30 mins worth of tactics work and that was a video session the day before the perth FFA cup game
they watched an AC milan game from a few years ago where they sat back played 4-5-1 and got the team on the counter attack, 10 mins into the FFA game Phil changed to 442
Thats been the extent of our tatical training for 6 months

confidence is at a all time low and aint getting better anytime soon

Maybe there is a language barrier? All his tactics are in Thai?

[hausmann]

Can't find it now but there was an article where Kevin Muscat blasted the Hunter Stadium surface for not being entirely stable under foot and causing little injuries to Victory players.

It's quite possible that the lacklustre display on Friday was partly due to playing on the newly laid pitch the prior week. Having said that, if this is the case it is simply further evidence of a lack of control, planning and professionalism of Jets hierarchy, particularly the CEO. Robbie should have been putting pressure on Hunter Stadium, particularly through the media, to get the job done quicker. I mean, were they doing nightwork to get it completed? The stadium has its own lighting. The safety and performance of his players should have been in the forefront of the CEO's mind, not a drinking bird toy sitting on his desk.

[hawk]

This is the last thing i am writing in this thread... the jets are ****ed.

Ahh so thats why...munted before the game.

[hawk]

Can't find it now but there was an article where Kevin Muscat blasted the Hunter Stadium surface for not being entirely stable under foot and causing little injuries to Victory players.

It's quite possible that the lacklustre display on Friday was partly due to playing on the newly laid pitch the prior week. Having said that, if this is the case it is simply further evidence of a lack of control, planning and professionalism of Jets hierarchy, particularly the CEO. Robbie should have been putting pressure on Hunter Stadium, particularly through the media, to get the job done quicker. I mean, where they doing nightwork to get it completed? The stadium has its own lighting.

Pretty sure Brisbane played on it as well. That being said, roll n play seems very organised to me as well

[hausmann]

Pretty sure Brisbane played on it as well. That being said, roll n play seems very organised to me as well

The point was that the Jets played on it the prior week as well and it may have turned their legs into bags of cement.

[MFKS]

The point was that the Jets played on it the prior week as well and it may have turned their legs into bags of cement.


That's just more excuses.

Didn't seem to effect Victreewho aimed up for their game V Smurfs

The players had nearly a week for recovery/massage etc


Maybe the issue with their lethargy is they ain't fit enough and they had to do a pile more running in the heat due than was necessary to their shit skills which coughed up the ball incessantly and their shit tactics


THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS AFTER ALL

[hausmann]

That's just more excuses.

Didn't seem to effect Victreewho aimed up for their game V Smurfs

The players had nearly a week for recovery/massage etc


Maybe the issue with their lethargy is they ain't fit enough and they had to do a pile more running in the heat due than was necessary to their shit skills which coughed up the ball incessantly and their shit tactics


THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS AFTER ALL

Not excuses, reasons.

It's important to understand the reasons behind what happens if you are going to fix anything. And as Friday was the worst performance by a Jets team ever, reasons are important.

It is a bit hard to compare the performance of the Jets to the performance of Victory because 6 of their regular first team players were out due to rep duty and injury. They have a lot more depth than we do and would be fitter. I don't know how they played on the weekend but they didn't win either.

[Grimario]

It is a bit hard to compare the performance of the Jets to the performance of Victory because 6 of their regular first team players were out due to rep duty and injury. They have a lot more depth than we do and would be fitter. I don't know how they played on the weekend but they didn't win either.

If their strikers were more clinical, Victree would have been 5-0 up at half time. They dominated Sydney in the first half, completely lopsided and if the ref had given a warranted yellow card to Ryall about 50 seconds in, smurfs would have had a lot more trouble.

[The Dunster]

Due diligence is an investigation of a business or person prior to signing a contract, or an act with a certain standard of care.

It's also beyond the scope of Jets Management.

[hausmann]

If their strikers were more clinical, Victree would have been 5-0 up at half time. They dominated Sydney in the first half, completely lopsided and if the ref had given a warranted yellow card to Ryall about 50 seconds in, smurfs would have had a lot more trouble.

Ok, maybe it wasn't the pitch then.

[plague]

I mean, were they doing nightwork to get it completed?.

I read somewhere that the Sun had it clearly stated in its CBA that it needed a set amount of rest each night between shifts.
This may have hampered progress.

[Thomas477]

Virgilli hasn't scored in over 60 Aleague games. Nuff said really. Longer streak than MacDonald.

[Jeterpool]

Virgilli hasn't scored in over 60 Aleague games. Nuff said really. Longer streak than MacDonald.

I'll pick you up - 53 A-League matches.

[Thomas477]

I'll pick you up - 53 A-League matches.

Thanks Jeterpool :p

But still, chasing the game, and SVE brings on someone who hadn't scored in 53 A-League games! Hardly inspiring.

[Bon]

It has occurred to me that maybe we are using the incorrect model for running the club..
All of these aspirations of getting great results, playing exciting football, attracting talented players (local and foreign), etc etc.. For what?
The incentive rewards of money, love, respect, admiration, pride, integrity, immortality (being remembered as a great team, not living forever like MFKS) seems to get us nowhere..
May I suggest some other possible ways?

The VikingJet Model:
For all the regulars on the foz, you will know what I'm talking about.. A paddlesteamer full of gambling, booze and strippers/hookers/saucy wenches, with free pickup/drop off to The Argyle and as many pingers as they can shelf.. No win, no try, no heart on field? No access to VJ's floating island of debauchery and totally rockin' tits..

The Uday Hussein Model:
For people that don't know, I'll copy and paste straight from wikipedia - "Uday Hussein, was in charge of the Iraqi Olympic Committee and, by extension, the national football team. Under Uday's leadership, motivational lectures to the team included threats to cut off players' legs, while missing practice sessions would lead to a term in prison. A loss brought flogging with electric cable, or a bath in raw sewage."
*Now obviously this is extreme, and I'm not in any way condoning such actions*
But perhaps a revised version, "motivational lectures to the team included threats to 'Clockwork Orange' players eyes open and forced to watch 10 hours straight of Glee/Friends/Kardashians/the-horseshit-performace-they-just-delivered, while missing practice sessions would lead to a term in Windale with SB. A loss brought flogging with the goal netting that they were unable to find for 90 mins, or a bath in Tuggerah Lakes."

The Model Model:

http://eldinamo.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/sha6yk.jpg

I no longer care about results. I didn't even notice results. What the fvck are results???
Just bring a bird of this wazzle-factor out and noone will even notice that a football match apparently took place..
(And for anyone living under a rock, that Is Ronaldo's mrs.. Yet he still manages to stop hanging out of her and play some ok football.. NO EXCUSES!)


Just a few ideas, contemplations, thoughts..
Anything to make being a Jets fan more palatable..

[plague]

You forgot the Kim Jong il model.
No matter what happens we just announce to everyone that we won every game 10-0 and if anyone objects we just kill them.

[Bon]

You forgot the Kim Jong il model.
No matter what happens we just announce to everyone that we won every game 10-0 and if anyone objects we just kill them.

Oh I wasn't limiting it just to those three.. They were just whatever immediately came to mind..
Kim Jong Il model would definitely work, with free safari suits and glasses for all!!!!

[MFKS]

It has occurred to me that maybe we are using the incorrect model for running the club..
All of these aspirations of getting great results, playing exciting football, attracting talented players (local and foreign), etc etc.. For what?
The incentive rewards of money, love, respect, admiration, pride, integrity, immortality (being remembered as a great team, not living forever like MFKS) seems to get us nowhere..
May I suggest some other possible ways?

The VikingJet Model:
For all the regulars on the foz, you will know what I'm talking about.. A paddlesteamer full of gambling, booze and strippers/hookers/saucy wenches, with free pickup/drop off to The Argyle and as many pingers as they can shelf.. No win, no try, no heart on field? No access to VJ's floating island of debauchery and totally rockin' tits..

The Uday Hussein Model:
For people that don't know, I'll copy and paste straight from wikipedia - "Uday Hussein, was in charge of the Iraqi Olympic Committee and, by extension, the national football team. Under Uday's leadership, motivational lectures to the team included threats to cut off players' legs, while missing practice sessions would lead to a term in prison. A loss brought flogging with electric cable, or a bath in raw sewage."
*Now obviously this is extreme, and I'm not in any way condoning such actions*
But perhaps a revised version, "motivational lectures to the team included threats to 'Clockwork Orange' players eyes open and forced to watch 10 hours straight of Glee/Friends/Kardashians/the-horseshit-performace-they-just-delivered, while missing practice sessions would lead to a term in Windale with SB. A loss brought flogging with the goal netting that they were unable to find for 90 mins, or a bath in Tuggerah Lakes."

The Model Model:

http://eldinamo.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/sha6yk.jpg

I no longer care about results. I didn't even notice results. What the fvck are results???
Just bring a bird of this wazzle-factor out and noone will even notice that a football match apparently took place..
(And for anyone living under a rock, that Is Ronaldo's mrs.. Yet he still manages to stop hanging out of her and play some ok football.. NO EXCUSES!)


Just a few ideas, contemplations, thoughts..
Anything to make being a Jets fan more palatable..

Seriously good post Bon but you missed possibly the greatest incentive for positive achievement of all a pool party hosted by SD

[hausmann]

The Jets have not put up a post-match story for this game on either their website or facebook.

I guess that means that the current model being adopted by the club is to censor bad results out of existence.