Stubbins = He's Out (pg 47)

[Thomas477]

Same game confirmed my doubts. Looked totally out of control and bereft of ideas.

Can't help but think this bloke is another Rado of sorts, capable asst but not head coach material.

I said all this when we first signed him.

Hell, I created this thread :thumbsup:

But I think Cobra wins things with this gem from when we first signed him:


He better not be a STUBBIN prick

[pv4]

Wasn't the Roar game when he put Kew at RB with Welsh at CB and everyone was like WTF!!!
Half-time comes and he puts Kew in his rightful position but by then yes it was already 3-0 down. I clearly remember people leaving at half-time, was the worst most uninspiring A League game I've ever seen live.

Yep it was the worst game I saw Kew play for us, he looked so out of position at RB. Which I remember thinking was odd, in the sense that he basically only played RB in the Netherlands, according to Patrick Zwaansvijk.

I left around 10 minutes early in that game, there was the QOTSA/NIN gig on that night. Parksey will confirm.

[parksey]

Yeah great gig

[Grimario]

Member, I am going to have something for you to work with over the weekend. Can take it to PM if you prefer to not spoil the surprise...

[MFKS]

Send it by PM then.

At this stage have nothing in the works for next weekend :rof:

[stopper2]

What sort of a coach at this level notifies players via SMS that they are/are not in the playing squad on match day!!!
Yep this has happened this season....oh but there are some that will say that Griffo, Kew and co. were sacked because they were troublemakers, trying to undermine the coach. As the days turn into weeks and the weeks turn into months since the sackings it is becoming more and more apparent that Griffo, Kew and co. were frustrated along with the rest of the players at the total lack of, how would you put it....coaching nous on all aspects.....from a rookie who was well out of his depth at this level. It's apparent that he likes "yes men", once you question his methods or ways....you are gone!!! This is his plan for "moving forward", the way he is "planting the seeds for the future" so that he wants players to not question him or his methods because that undermines and exposes his failings as a coach. From the players who are still left if I could ask them two questions it would be....1) Under coach Stubbins this season how would you rate your development as a footballer? 2)Do you feel he has aided your development so that you feel that you have progressed to the next level?
After all isn't that, apart from getting results, isn't that what a coach is about? It is obvious he has failed in the "results" department and I am willing to bet my house on it that not one player has benefited from his coaching in terms of development either.

[MFKS]

That's interesting have heard the exact same thing where the Muppet was texting players the night before a match and telling them they were in out or whatever.

Seems like the type of thing to install a low morale in the squad as 23 blokes nervously await an SMS on match eve whether they are playing or in the stands

Not so bad if your Sam Gallagher as he probably got lots of good news texts

[Thomas477]

Didn't Tarek complain about GvE doing the same, or similar thing?

[Jetmaster]

Nuh - he had this convo..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3997208-3x4-700x933.jpg

Then was promptly given the flick.

[pv4]

Nuh - he had this convo..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3997208-3x4-700x933.jpg

Then was promptly given the flick.

Tarek needs to get to a charger sooner rather than later.

[stopper2]

Tarek needs to get to a charger sooner rather than later.

Two completely different things. Being notified whether you are in the team or just getting basically a "well done" for a good performance.

If you have been training with the first team squad all week and even announced in the initial 17 or 18 man squad for the weekends match, it should be at the very least common courtesy to receive a phone call from the coach that you have not made the final squad of fifteen and a reason given....not to just receive a ****ing text message. This is all part of the "man-management" part of coaching where the coach is supposed to make every player in the squad feel that they are important and a part of the club, even if they aren't actually playing.
Where a coach doesn't make an effort to sit down and talk with a player and discuss with him where he can impove in order to make the team, and instead just sends a text message that to me is a lazy coach who doesn't give a **** about his players and creating a good, positive team environment where everyone can excel.
Anyone care to argue the point???

[Grimario]

Wasn't the whole thing with tarek that he had that message and then days later found out his contract wasn't being renewed by a single line in a media release?

[stopper2]

Wasn't the whole thing with tarek that he had that message and then days later found out his contract wasn't being renewed by a single line in a media release?

Okay if you want to discuss what happened with Tarek 3 years ago, fair enough go for it but I just thought we have much more serious things happening at the club at the present time to discuss.

[Grimario]

Okay if you want to discuss what happened with Tarek 3 years ago, fair enough go for it but I just thought we have much more serious things happening at the club at the present time to discuss.

Umm.... Weren't you the one who compared the two?

[stopper2]

Umm.... Weren't you the one who compared the two?

No, a few other guys brought up the Tarek/GVE messages, If you go over again what was said I am clearly stating that they are completely different situations and basically there is NO comparison.

[mervan]

What sort of a coach at this level notifies players via SMS that they are/are not in the playing squad on match day!!!
Yep this has happened this season....oh but there are some that will say that Griffo, Kew and co. were sacked because they were troublemakers, trying to undermine the coach. As the days turn into weeks and the weeks turn into months since the sackings it is becoming more and more apparent that Griffo, Kew and co. were frustrated along with the rest of the players at the total lack of, how would you put it....coaching nous on all aspects.....from a rookie who was well out of his depth at this level. It's apparent that he likes "yes men", once you question his methods or ways....you are gone!!! This is his plan for "moving forward", the way he is "planting the seeds for the future" so that he wants players to not question him or his methods because that undermines and exposes his failings as a coach. From the players who are still left if I could ask them two questions it would be....1) Under coach Stubbins this season how would you rate your development as a footballer? 2)Do you feel he has aided your development so that you feel that you have progressed to the next level?
After all isn't that, apart from getting results, isn't that what a coach is about? It is obvious he has failed in the "results" department and I am willing to bet my house on it that not one player has benefited from his coaching in terms of development either.

He's not there to develop players, it's a professional league, he is there to get the best out of an individual that he has signed, has he achieved that, NO.

[stopper2]

He's not there to develop players, it's a professional league, he is there to get the best out of an individual that he has signed, has he achieved that, NO.

"Develop" players or "get the best" out of an individual....very similar things aren't they???

[mervan]

[QUOTE=stopper2;118076]"Develop" players or "get the best" out of an individual....very similar things aren't

Just making a point of difference

[hawk]

Stubbins doesn't know how to develop, improve or organize.

He only knows how to panic, scramble & kiss ass.

[mervan]

Stubbins doesn't know how to develop, improve or organize.

He only knows how to panic, scramble & kiss ass.

That's a given

[MFKS]

Just making a point of difference
Stupidity isn't really a point of difference though

[mervan]

Stupidity isn't really a point of difference though

Thank god for spell check or you would have got that wrong, muppet

[MFKS]

Stepping the campaign up in the off season.

Just booked a trip to Thailand.


Gonna call into Bangkok Glass FC whilst there and find out how they got rid of the Muppet and we can't.



Any chance I can get a tax deduction for this???

[lquiquer]

Stepping the campaign up in the off season.

Just booked a trip to Thailand.


Gonna call into Bangkok Glass FC whilst there and find out how they got rid of the Muppet and we can't.



Any chance I can get a tax deduction for this???
As far as I am concern you are a registered AGENT on the foz so YES..:

[lquiquer]

If we discuss Round about on this thread then sorry Robbo but he is gooone.....Must be that culture thing!!!!!.... #StubbinsOut......... Come to the game Friday ...... And learn the Muppet Show song: Manama dodo dodo dodo do Manama.... Do do do do...... Manamana.....

[lquiquer]

Manamana Doo Doo do do do... Manamana
1078

[MFKS]

Manamana Doo Doo do do do... Manamana
1078

Can't believe that dick head last night. Team under the pump just before half time ball goes out and the dick head kicked it back so they could take a quick throw. Anyone with half a brain gets out of its way and allows his team time to regroup whilst the opponent is looking for a ****ing ball

[Thomas477]

Hey Furns, or any other almighty mods, any chance we could get the thread title changed to "Muppet Out"?

[boz-monaut]

then folks might get confused about which particular Muppet you want out

[belchardo]

Can't believe that dick head last night. Team under the pump just before half time ball goes out and the dick head kicked it back so they could take a quick throw. Anyone with half a brain gets out of its way and allows his team time to regroup whilst the opponent is looking for a ****ing ball

Blew up about the same thing myself.

[WolfMan]

Can't believe that dick head last night. Team under the pump just before half time ball goes out and the dick head kicked it back so they could take a quick throw. Anyone with half a brain gets out of its way and allows his team time to regroup whilst the opponent is looking for a ****ing ball


Blew up about the same thing myself.

Was in the company of my better half, so held my tongue as she wouldn't know why I was so annoyed. But yes, certainly a dumb thing to do. Catch the ball, hang onto it while you bark out a few orders and slowly give the ball back, but don't show off your tekkers when you're under the pump.

[belchardo]

in those kind of situations, you need to ask yourself: "what would kossie do?"

[My2BobsWorth]

Stepping the campaign up in the off season.

Just booked a trip to Thailand.


Gonna call into Bangkok Glass FC whilst there and find out how they got rid of the Muppet and we can't.



Any chance I can get a tax deduction for this???

So now it's the Thai connexion, is that like the Fred Nile connexion. Hope you like spicy prison food, and penis.

[Jeterpool]

So, this whole moving forward thing has really got some legs. Given our position this year we certainly can't go backwards!!

And does anyone else notice when Stubbins talks about next year, he's saying look back in 12 months time and you'll see we're in a better position. We can be 9th and what he's saying will be true!! Lots of smoke and mirrors smooth talking going on here.

[MFKS]

So, this whole moving forward thing has really got some legs. Given our position this year we certainly can't go backwards!!

And does anyone else notice when Stubbins talks about next year, he's saying look back in 12 months time and you'll see we're in a better position. We can be 9th and what he's saying will be true!! Lots of smoke and mirrors smooth talking going on here.

The bloke is just making it up as he is going.

Make no mistake this is not some grand plan that was in the works. A 7-0 hiding and a player revolt were the catalyst for self preservation and this bullshit empty dream of moving forward.

Seriously if Griff Carney Kew were such a problem before we got raped by Adelaide why were they playing every week???

[Raw Boned Youngster]

A lot of older players, past their best, create an illusion around them to sure up their positions/ status.
usually it involves blaming others for the poor performances, rather than any walk into the room of mirrors.
The coach is usually the number one target and it is usually accompanied by creating a pack mentality to convince others to see it the same way.
Happens in all sports and at all levels.
Tinks is a knock about bloke who has seen this sort of stuff in the workplace.
he made a pretty good call on getting rid of the under performing ageing types because he could see through it.

Definitely better off without all the players that were chopped- different reasons for all too.
Stubbins is a terrible coach who prepares poorly organised and tactically inept teams.
But at least this lot have some athleticism, some commitment and have a go and they don't have that negative / divisive self interest serving lot to derail the team further.
We are still a dumb team but at least their is some united spirit now.

[lquiquer]

Stubbins is a terrible coach who prepares poorly organised and tactically inept teams.

So you are saying he is the problem aren't you?

[MFKS]

A lot of older players, past their best, create an illusion around them to sure up their positions/ status.
usually it involves blaming others for the poor performances, rather than any walk into the room of mirrors.
The coach is usually the number one target and it is usually accompanied by creating a pack mentality to convince others to see it the same way.
Happens in all sports and at all levels.
Tinks is a knock about bloke who has seen this sort of stuff in the workplace.
he made a pretty good call on getting rid of the under performing ageing types because he could see through it.

Definitely better off without all the players that were chopped- different reasons for all too.
Stubbins is a terrible coach who prepares poorly organised and tactically inept teams.
But at least this lot have some athleticism, some commitment and have a go and they don't have that negative / divisive self interest serving lot to derail the team further.
We are still a dumb team but at least their is some united spirit now.

Fear is not exactly a spirit

[stopper2]

A lot of older players, past their best, create an illusion around them to sure up their positions/ status.
usually it involves blaming others for the poor performances, rather than any walk into the room of mirrors.
The coach is usually the number one target and it is usually accompanied by creating a pack mentality to convince others to see it the same way.
Happens in all sports and at all levels.
Tinks is a knock about bloke who has seen this sort of stuff in the workplace.
he made a pretty good call on getting rid of the under performing ageing types because he could see through it.

Definitely better off without all the players that were chopped- different reasons for all too.
Stubbins is a terrible coach who prepares poorly organised and tactically inept teams.
But at least this lot have some athleticism, some commitment and have a go and they don't have that negative / divisive self interest serving lot to derail the team further.
We are still a dumb team but at least their is some united spirit now.

Mate apart from......"Stubbins is a terrible coach who prepares poorly organised and tactically inept teams"....which is pretty well common knowledge now.
Most of your comments are based from your observation of someone from the outside looking in without no real knowledge of what happened in January and the months leading up to the cull.

Yeah Tinks "made a pretty good call on getting rid of the under performing ageing types"......we still finished last FFS!

In our last game to avoid the spoon we virtually played a 2nd string Roar side but like you said we now have....."some athleticism, some commitment and have a go"......but we still lost.

Don't buy this illusion that what the club done was the right thing to do because that only feeds their whole propaganda machine of "moving forward" "rebuilding" etc. There is nothing we can do about changing the past but we still don't have to accept that what Stubbins and Tinkler done was right and in the best interests of the club.

Lastly there is nothing united about the spirit of the team, the happenings of the past few months have created a psyche now where each individual is looking out for himself, there is no collective.

[Frodo]

I think we would have finished last even if we hadn't culled those players mid year. I think we would've still missed out on finals football even if we sacked Stubbs.

However Tinks is backing Stubbs until next year, there's nothing we can do that will actually change his mind in the short term, so... i reckon that the cull was good as the team would've just moved further and further backwards with all those people trying to work against each other.

We have definitely been more enjoyable to watch over the last month than the first half of the season and i think a lot of that has come down to some of the young players running themselves around the park with some enthusiasm as well as Alivodic and Lee finding their feet and influencing games.

So if he is staying and is getting a clean slate does anyone actually think he can build at least a slightly competent football team to compete next year? I think we have been ok, so far, in our player retention and the signing of Booger. That's one positive..:thumbsup:

[MFKS]

Only fair I offer praise when it is due.

The decisions made today by Muppet are actually good for the future of the club. Muppet has actually done the right thing in my eyes


As I said yesterday The Serb and Cowburn are the only two we should retain.

Reegz may well be a top bloke and well loved etc but re signing him would be a foolish mistake when we are in the hole we are in. We can't afford to be making decisions on sentiment and misguided local loyalty. We do need to be signing better players than Reegz or we will be in the same spot next season. As for this bullwhip about signing someone as a Squaddie all our blokes should be signed for the future or for now. Not to fill in and be second fiddle to someone

Obviously now we have plenty of space in our squad to rebuild and it is now over to the Muppet to not tuck it up.

PS I still want the Muppet gone

[380]

Thank christ for your post script.

Thought you were wavering there for a moment.

[MFKS]

Thank christ for your post script.

Thought you were wavering there for a moment.

Wavering no way.

My expectations are that we win the league next season. No ****ing about.

Muppet will have the players he wants and if he can't achieve this goal then he should be sacked.

If anyone thinks I am being unrealistic then I couldn't give a ****. What he has put us through this season will only be worth it if he delivers the title next year. If he can't then he GTFO

[plague]

Only fair I offer praise when it is due.

The decisions made today by Muppet are actually good for the future of the club. Muppet has actually done the right thing in my eyes


Look how soft the Member has gone since meeting Stubbins at the airport.

He must have done gone and scared 6 levels of shit right out of you.

You've changed.

[MFKS]

Look how soft the Member has gone since meeting Stubbins at the airport.

He must have done gone and scared 6 levels of shit right out of you.

You've changed.

Scared no.

Me just realistic to know that the Muppet will be here for another 6 months anyway and fark all can be done to change that.

He has 5 Months to learn to Coach
I have 5 Months to prepare banners

Pressure ain't on me at all

[MFKS]

NBN News just said Chilli has been trying for 3 months to speak to Muppet about his future but has been ignored by Muppet.

Really good people skills there

Unfortunately not the only one to be ignored by Muppet and his poor people skills

[lquiquer]

NBN News just said Chilli has been trying for 3 months to speak to Muppet about his future but has been ignored by Muppet.

Really good people skills there

Unfortunately not the only one to be ignored by Muppet and his poor people skills

And also said Regan was told he would be offered a new contract and that even assistant coach was taken by surprise and didn't know he was getting axed!!!!!......Dictatorship mate... dictatorship....!!!!!

[parksey]

yes that was a very damning report

it actually made me feel passionate about the club for the first time in a long time

it was a feeling of hatred but it's a start

[Raw Boned Youngster]

So you are saying he is the problem aren't you?

yes he is a major part of the problem. The reality is the Jets have never had a decent coach who can improve, develop or implement any tactical style.

[Jetmaster]

And also said Regan was told he would be offered a new contract and that even assistant coach was taken by surprise and didn't know he was getting axed!!!!!......Dictatorship mate... dictatorship....!!!!!

Actually told by Tinks he had a contract after the Sydney game - bizarre!

[Raw Boned Youngster]

Fear is not exactly a spirit

I have seen a huge improvement in terms of work off the ball and defensive commitment. Two hallmarks of teams with a Commitment. Didn't see much of that earlier in the season- the laziness and lack of defensive effort going back a couple of months was non existent and very obvious. There has been a lot of positive changes recently. tactically still poor but minus the divisive types.

[WolfMan]

I have seen a huge improvement in terms of work off the ball and defensive commitment. Two hallmarks of teams with a Commitment. Didn't see much of that earlier in the season- the laziness and lack of defensive effort going back a couple of months was non existent and very obvious. There has been a lot of positive changes recently. tactically still poor but minus the divisive types.

Mark Jones.

That is all

[hawk]

I have seen a huge improvement in terms of work off the ball and defensive commitment. Two hallmarks of teams with a Commitment. Didn't see much of that earlier in the season- the laziness and lack of defensive effort going back a couple of months was non existent and very obvious. There has been a lot of positive changes recently. tactically still poor but minus the divisive types.

surrounding yourself with yes men can improve energy but tactics and organization will remain in the toilet under the muppet.

Enjoy your wonderful up coming season.

[MFKS]

Lucy Zelic on Twitter



Multiple sources reveal stubbins previously begged certain players not to take sides within the playing group but then axes them

My oh my The truth is starting to come out

[Tommyjet]

Lucy Zelic on Twitter




My oh my The truth is starting to come out

Give Lucy some leads to look into

[stopper2]

Mark Jones.

That is all

Sometimes less is more! Two words is all we need.....MARK JONES

[stopper2]

Lucy Zelic on Twitter




My oh my The truth is starting to come out

I like how she put "Multiple sources"!!! Love Lucy

[MFKS]

I like how she put "Multiple sources"!!! Love Lucy

You weren't sending her sauce material were you???
:rof:

[Raw Boned Youngster]

surrounding yourself with yes men can improve energy but tactics and organization will remain in the toilet under the muppet.

Enjoy your wonderful up coming season.

What are you prattling on about?
Stubbins is a tactical void so nothing will change in that regard next season.
I made my point clear on him.
My other main point was that there was an improvement in commitment, especially in the areas without the ball, in recent times and after the axing.
What I saw was some poor leadership by the senior players; laziness, ill discipline etc.

I can't recall ever suggesting that next season was going to be some golden summer or anything.
Interestingly, Id be interested to monitor and discuss the input / performance of the axed players for their respective new clubs next season.

[hawk]

What are you prattling on about?
Stubbins is a tactical void so nothing will change in that regard next season.
I made my point clear on him.
My other main point was that there was an improvement in commitment, especially in the areas without the ball, in recent times and after the axing.
What I saw was some poor leadership by the senior players; laziness, ill discipline etc.

I can't recall ever suggesting that next season was going to be some golden summer or anything.
Interestingly, Id be interested to monitor and discuss the input / performance of the axed players for their respective new clubs next season.

prattling ay, but your point is retard. you said nothing about stabbins being sh1t but played him a hero for dropping our best players

the so called bolded crap was due to stabbins.

these guys would be playing nothing like this with another coach. these senior players should have stayed and stubbins knifed.

can you take this package to indo for us

[MFKS]

Give Lucy some leads to look into

I am trying. I just noticed who is on her list of people following her though so will have to tread carefully.

Never know how close she is to others etc

Don't trust women etc

Don't trust anything that bleeds for a week and doesn't die etc.

[Raw Boned Youngster]

prattling ay, but your point is retard. you said nothing about stabbins being sh1t but played him a hero for dropping our best players

the so called bolded crap was due to stabbins.

these guys would be playing nothing like this with another coach. these senior players should have stayed and stubbins knifed.

can you take this package to indo for us

Listen Hawk, you should learn to read before you critique someone's posts...
' Stubbins is a terrible coach you prepares poorly organised and tactically inept teams' was one of my earlier descriptions of Stubbins.
Poor choice of attempted humour too buddy.

[hawk]

Listen Hawk, you should learn to read before you critique someone's posts...
' Stubbins is a terrible coach you prepares poorly organised and tactically inept teams' was one of my earlier descriptions of Stubbins.
Poor choice of attempted humour too buddy.

listen......lulz. wasn't humour champ, see ya

[Raw Boned Youngster]

Keep digging

[hawk]

sure, stubbins out

[380]

Stubbins o/seas trip making more sense now. Has been filming new episodes.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-32651408

[MFKS]

Stubbins o/seas trip making more sense now. Has been filming new episodes.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-32651408

:rof:

[lquiquer]

Stubbins o/seas trip making more sense now. Has been filming new episodes.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-32651408

Manamana....:thumbsup:

[MFKS]

Whilst we are on a roll


BUMP

[OmeletteDuFromage]

The FFA article says players will be offered a contract at the new club. No mention of staff.

[boz-monaut]

once this Muppet is gone I will purchase a new season ticket in one of them fancy seats where you get a waiter and shit

cmon Dundee, clear the decks and shut up and take my money

[MFKS]

The FFA article says players will be offered a contract at the new club. No mention of staff.

Tinkler could have done us all a great favour in sacking him before he went.

Add his wages to the 2million debt to be settled at a creditors meeting where Muppet got 8c in the $$

****

[Thomas477]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Muppet!

[The Camel]

You would have to think any new owner or even the FFA if wanting to sell memberships next season and/or get on the good side of the fans would dismiss the Muppet immediately

[Thomas477]

I don't even think that the ffa would have to terminate his contract. They're setting up a Brad new club which means all positions are vacated,

[plague]

once this Muppet is gone I will purchase a new season ticket in one of them fancy seats where you get a waiter and shit

We'll be careful what you say in this thread as Stubbins will prob end up being that waiter.

[hawk]

We'll be careful what you say in this thread as Stubbins will prob end up being that waiter.

back in his real position.

Calling all new coaching wannabes

[sammydog]

I don't even think that the ffa would have to terminate his contract. They're setting up a Brad new club which means all positions are vacated,

Thats my understanding. Its start from scratch as a new entity with the same name.

They would know the community backlash at stubbins, and FFA know they need to connect with the community. There is no way that he will be retained. He may as well hop on the next bus out of town and never return.

[GazFish35]

I'm guessing.....

Newcastle football operations in no longer the license holder.

Players contracts must be honoured because the PFA argued to protect them.
Managers have no union.

Stubbin's contract with HSG or newcastle jets football operations wouldn't be protected in the same way.



I think phil might be able to spend some more time in the uk visiting friends and family.

[MFKS]

Thats my understanding. Its start from scratch as a new entity with the same name.

They would know the community backlash at stubbins, and FFA know they need to connect with the community. There is no way that he will be retained. He may as well hop on the next bus out of town and never return.

Hopefully he is not even in town. Finding out his demise by viewing the internet would be so ****ing fitting

[mervan]

Hopefully he is not even in town. Finding out his demise by viewing the internet would be so ****ing fitting

Will he be told to play Carney

[GazFish35]

Hopefully he is not even in town. Finding out his demise by viewing the internet would be so ****ing fitting

Would be better via Duct tape and builders plastic tbh.

[WolfMan]

Would be better via Duct tape and builders plastic tbh.

Good thought, but MFKS already made enough banners. And utilised better materials...

[MFKS]

Good thought, but MFKS already made enough banners. And utilised better materials...
????

The best one was done with builders plastic and tape

[boz-monaut]

I assumed the builders plastic and gaff tape was to roll him up and push him off a pier, not make a banner

[lquiquer]

I think phil might be able to spend some more time in the uk visiting friends and family.

A stop over in Thailand on the way back ?

[WolfMan]

????

The best one was done with builders plastic and tape


I assumed the builders plastic and gaff tape was to roll him up and push him off a pier, not make a banner

I was being facetious

[MFKS]

THESE players stood alongside Jets coach Phil Stubbins for a pre-season promotion.

All have since parted ways with the club under Stubbins’ tumultous reign – and the coach himself appears likely to be the next head to roll after Football Federation Australia’s decision to depose owner Nathan Tinkler.

The game’s governing body revoked Tinkler’s A-League licence on Wednesday afternoon, just hours after the one-time billionaire had placed the club into voluntary administration, citing liabilities of $2.7million.

FFA officials travelled to Newcastle on Thursday to begin sifting through the mess Tinkler has left behind and start rebuilding the Jets.

One of the first calls made by the head of A-League, Damien de Bohun, was to advise Stubbins that he and his assistant coaches, Mark Jones and James Pascoe, would initially not be ‘‘coming across’’ to the new Newcastle entity.

Players have been offered identical contracts with the FFA entity, and administrative staff have also been brought across to ensure continuity while their positions are reviewed.













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It is hoped all Jets employees, who were supposed to be paid seven days ago, will receive their wages on Friday.

FFA has not ruled out reappointing Stubbins, but that would appear highly unlikely given his dismal debut season.





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Under the 52-year-old Englishman, the Jets finished last with three wins from 27 games and it seemed players and fans lost faith in his ability.

He was nonetheless backed to the hilt by Tinkler, who insisted he would honour Stubbins’ two-year deal.

That contract is now effectively worthless and Stubbins’ fate is in the hands of the FFA executives who have assumed interim control of the Jets.

FFA chief executive David Gallop said the coaching positions were under review and ‘‘would need to be considered separately’’.

He said it was ‘‘too early to make a decision in relation to them’’.

The Newcastle Herald asked to speak with Stubbins, but he said he would prefer to wait until Monday when he returns from an overseas scouting trip.

But in an interview with FourFourTwo website he said he was ‘‘100 per cent committed’’ to Newcastle.

“I think we’ve now got a chance to rebuild well,’’ he was quoted as saying.

‘‘There’s a lot of good people and things in place at the club that with the addition of a balanced roster and a stabilised day-to-day running can assist the club to gain the gap on finals football.

“I took the entire pre-season with Adelaide United as interim head coach under FFA administration in 2010 and the club went on to finish third that season.”

Former Socceroo David Carney, who spent four months in limbo last season after falling out with Stubbins, indicated he would welcome a change of coaches.

Speaking on Fox Sports, Carney was asked if he was willing to continue playing under Stubbins.

‘‘That’s a difficult one,’’ Carney said. ‘‘He stopped me going to another club and then he sacked me two weeks later or three weeks later. It’s a difficult one to accept, that.’’

Carney, who has another year to run on his Jets contract, said it was ‘‘definitely a relief’’ that FFA had stepped in to remove Tinkler.

‘‘It’s a real good club for the A-League and it’s a good fan base there, so we don’t want to lose them,’’ Carney said. ‘‘It’s important that whoever comes in brings in the right coaching staff and they move forward.’’

Jets midfielder Zenon Caravella, who was released at the end of last season, said he had ‘‘a couple of options’’ but would be more than willing to rejoin Newcastle if required.

‘‘I’d love to come back and play for the Jets next season,’’ Caravella said


Zenon may well be earning himself many fans by exhibiting his character in recent weeks but to me it would be a massive backward step to be giving him a new gig

[Tommyjet]

Zenon may well be earning himself many fans by exhibiting his character in recent weeks but to me it would be a massive backward step to be giving him a new gig

I agree

[belchardo]

as do I. thanks for the service zen, but no thanks.

[cobra23]

love zennon,
Put him in a team with a better coach and players and he will get the job done.

[Mark325]

It's also saying Jones and Pascoe might not be coming over to the new club

I'd be willing to give Zenon the position, but it will only be if we've already filled up the roles with the big names, the guys who will be in the starting 11 and we're just looking to fill spots

[stopper2]

Pretty well 99.9% of supporters are in agrement that the Muppet should go, I am also of the opinion that Pascoe should not be a part of this new era also.
Showed his true character at the time of the sackings of people who he had worked with, especially Zane, when he saw it as an opportunity to promote his own selfish interests, not what was best for the club.
On top of that in his role with Hunter Sports High and the Youth team (how the hell was he allowed to do both these roles!!!) if you had a look at the players that have actually come through this "pathway" in recent years you would have to ask....WHO???
Over the past few years he has been responsible in bringing in numerous kids in particular from Sydney and even interstate....taking up what should be local kids spots..... but apart from Rad who has actually gone on to play A League?

Can't wait to here when Muppet has officially been sacked but sure as hell won't be losing any sleep if his right hand man in this whole torrid chapter, Pascoe goes as well.

[MFKS]

Pretty well 99.9% of supporters are in agrement that the Muppet should go, I am also of the opinion that Pascoe should not be a part of this new era also.
Showed his true character at the time of the sackings of people who he had worked with, especially Zane, when he saw it as an opportunity to promote his own selfish interests, not what was best for the club.
On top of that in his role with Hunter Sports High and the Youth team (how the hell was he allowed to do both these roles!!!) if you had a look at the players that have actually come through this "pathway" in recent years you would have to ask....WHO???
Over the past few years he has been responsible in bringing in numerous kids in particular from Sydney and even interstate....taking up what should be local kids spots..... but apart from Rad who has actually gone on to play A League?

Can't wait to here when Muppet has officially been sacked but sure as hell won't be losing any sleep if his right hand man in this whole torrid chapter, Pascoe goes as well.

Had another one the other week that had come up from Sydney where he had been at WSW and not getting a look in there. Had also spent time at Everton and had come to Newy for an opportunity.

One wonders what exactly he was promised as he was playing in the Yoof team in the NPL until 2 weeks ago where he has since disappeared. May well be injured and haven't heard what happened to him but would not be surprised to find out he has rocked up been promised the earth. Nothing has been delivered and he has turned around and left.

The amount of kids brought into the Yoof team from outside the area who **** off mid season is staggering
Bilic Russell Olsson etc

Whom is responsible for this and why needs to be addressed.



As for Pavicevic have been watching him closely at NPL level in recent weeks and I have to ask serious questions as to how and why he was given a 2 year senior contract.
If he is HAL ready then I have Lionel Messi like talents with the football at my feet.

Cowburn Pappas Michael Kanta should be asking serious questions as to why they haven't been given a deal. Matter of fact 90% of the squad in the NPL team is better than him


Don't even get me started on how Pavicevic got a senior deal and Kale never got anything from the club other than being shit on as I will leave that one well alone

[stopper2]

^^^^
Yep, know exactly where you are coming from mate!
That's why we need a cleanout and in the future we need accountability so people like Pascoe can't just seemingly do want they want.

[borat]

So who should be the new coach? Pretty obvious that Stubbins is gone so no point discussing it any further.

Few names being thrown around

Rudan
De Marignay
Mulvey
Jones

I would be more than happy with Mulvey then let him appoint his own staff

[weston]

I think Mulvey will be a good choice.

[MFKS]

I think Mulvey will be a good choice.

Mulvey??

Same bloke who lost the respect of his players at Brisbane and got sacked??

We not learn anything with GVE and Muppet about appointing coaches who think they are all that??

[hawk]

So who should be the new coach? Pretty obvious that Stubbins is gone so no point discussing it any further.



im not sure who but this kent had better do the job. 1 more idiot is too much

[Tommyjet]

Mulvey??

Same bloke who lost the respect of his players at Brisbane and got sacked??

We not learn anything with GVE and Muppet about appointing coaches who think they are all that??

I agree. Mulvey is too combustible. We need a gaffa that can be both flexible with various player personalities and at the same time provide the necessary discipline.

Mulvey doesn't seem flexible and, like the muppet, known to shun players just because they don't agree.

[joel31]

Someone on Facebook last week pointed out that Jurgen Klopp is available

[borat]

Mulvey??

Same bloke who lost the respect of his players at Brisbane and got sacked??

We not learn anything with GVE and Muppet about appointing coaches who think they are all that??

And you think the coach should be?

I am asking because I thought I might sit back and wait before trashing your opinion without actually putting one forward myself. It's a template you should be very familiar with.

[Raw Boned Youngster]

Mulvey inherited an extremely talented and well coached squad and, despite a short term success, slowly unravelled all of Ange's good work. The Mulvey squad at the end of his tenure was a shambles and very short on cohesion and structure. No way to Mulvey.

[MFKS]

And you think the coach should be?

I am asking because I thought I might sit back and wait before trashing your opinion without actually putting one forward myself. It's a template you should be very familiar with.

I would be chasing Ange Postecoglou Ernie Merrick or Arnold in this country.

I know they have other gigs but they are the only 3 I would consider for our role here.

Everyone else here has either failed and is unemployed or has no experience

My choice though would be to look overseas

Won't happen though.

We will get an assistant at another HAL club or someone like Okon Vidmar Milicic etc already on the FFA payroll

[stopper2]

Whoever we get all I ask for as a supporter is that in the decision process we get a coach who is a true mentor, almost like a father figure to his players......one who the players want to play for week in week out.
One who doesn't play "favourites" but picks the best XI available every week and knows how to get the best out of his players and doesn't blame others when things are not working but takes full responsibility.
One who says things with meaning and substance and shows transparency so that supporters are not treated like mushrooms in the dark.
One who inspires confidence in his players to realise their true potential.
One who brings back honesty and integrity to the role so that supporters can believe in him and trust him.
Most importantly, one who knows how to instill a winning mentality and winning culture in the club and the players!

Having said all that I've read it back and it pretty well sums up everything that Stubbins is NOT!
Feel free if anyone wants to add anything else.

[WolfMan]

I'd like to wind back the clock and get Merrick when we had the chance. Absolutely baffling why we didn't throw everything at him

[plague]

FFS Member.
You talk about all other candidates being losers but then include Gypo Arnie in your wish list FULLY AWARE that the bloke has yet to register a win in any A-League game in his entire career.

Between him and wanting to sign a bunch of their players you are hell bent on white anting the joint before we even get started again.

and you call yourself a superfan.

Shame on you.

[furns]

Papas IN

[Hunter403]

Rudan would be worth a look if we are considering a "fresh" face. Zane might even get a hearing if the FFA decides to go "Newy". Jones, if he doesn't get it now then he never will.

Of the other possibles the all are on par in my view. Would love to see us find a Gombau somewhere but I doubt we will go overseas.

[hawk]

I hear a lot about this papas bloke but he hasn't really impressed yet. Stubbins 2.0
Played - wins
Australia Oakleigh Cannons 28 15
India Pailan Arrows 26 6
India Dempo 41 16

[Pico]

If the new coach was to come from the existing FFA ranks I think the best option would be Ante Milicic, followed by Tony Vidmar. If they are looking at rookie coaches I still think Arthur Papas has done more than say a Mark Rudan has, so I wouldn't mind seeing him get his chance.

[Jeterpool]

Rickie Herbert's name was mentioned by the Herald late last year

[boz-monaut]

I think we need to come up with a list of eight options, I'll start a new thread with a poll

Slobs has his certificates and so is a serious option

[plague]

I think we need to come up with a list of eight options, I'll start a new thread with a poll

Slobs has his certificates and so is a serious option

Make this poll.
Put Stubbins as one of the options.
If anyone votes for him ban the **** out of them for eternity.

[Tommyjet]

I doubt the FFA will be looking overseas for a coach

[boz-monaut]

Make this poll.
Put Stubbins as one of the options.
If anyone votes for him ban the **** out of them for eternity.

I was going to put him as an option but I don't think that is a possibility

[lquiquer]

I personally wouldn't mind Aloisi.......He already has HAL experience and left Heart well respected......it didn't work for him there but it's not to say it wouldn't work here. I like the way he analyses games......

[stopper2]

I personally wouldn't mind Aloisi.......He already has HAL experience and left Heart well respected......it didn't work for him there but it's not to say it wouldn't work here. I like the way he analyses games......

I initially thought, no not Aloisi but didn't Ange have a break from coaching after an ordinary tenure as Youth Socceroos coach and then came back with a bang at Roar.
The main thing with a coach is that they learn by their mistakes and are flexible in their approach (something GVE failed to do).
If Aloisi learnt from his experience in his time at Heart and has become a better coach because of it, then yes he should at least be considered (definitely not the favourite) because from his time at the Heart he very much looks like he is 100% there for his players (which is a total change from Muppet)

[Jeterpool]

Aloisi would also have contacts in Spain, Italy and England

[boz-monaut]

the list so far:

Phil Stubbins
Ante Milicic
Tony Vidmar
Arthur Papas
Paul Okon
Mark Rudan
Mike Mulvey
John Aloisi
Slobs

[stopper2]

the list so far:

Phil Stubbins
Ante Milicic
Tony Vidmar
Arthur Papas
Paul Okon
Mark Rudan
Mike Mulvey
John Aloisi

+ Mark Jones
Reckon he will come into consideration too?

[boz-monaut]

Jones would be a pretty uninspiring option - but here's the updated list

Phil Stubbins
Ante Milicic
Tony Vidmar
Arthur Papas
Paul Okon
Mark Rudan
Mike Mulvey
John Aloisi
Mark Jones
Slobs

[MFKS]

I hear a lot about this papas bloke but he hasn't really impressed yet. Stubbins 2.0
Played - wins
Australia Oakleigh Cannons 28 15
India Pailan Arrows 26 6
India Dempo 41 16


Not a Stubbins at all.

He may not have a great winning record but his team played good football when he was here.

His efforts at getting them to play 4-3-3 and comparing it to GVE's effort were chalk and cheese

Bloke may not bring the wins we want but we would play with some style

[Thomas477]

I'd chuck GvE in there as well.

[foti68]

Jones would be a pretty uninspiring option - but here's the updated list

Phil Stubbins
Ante Milicic
Tony Vidmar
Arthur Papas
Paul Okon
Mark Rudan
Mike Mulvey
John Aloisi
Mark Jones
Slobs

What about Zane??

[stopper2]

^^^^
I would say the chances of Zane being Head coach are very very slim while GVE's are virtually non-existent

[lquiquer]

Not a Stubbins at all.

He may not have a great winning record but his team played good football when he was here.

His efforts at getting them to play 4-3-3 and comparing it to GVE's effort were chalk and cheese

Bloke may not bring the wins we want but we would play with some style

The problem here is to play good stylish football you need technically good players all over the park..... and it has been a limitation for a long time at the Jets. If you can't put 5 passes together then it's always going to be difficult....

[Couscous]

GVE's are virtually non-existent

He'd be an excellent coach in a well-managed club. He kept the Jets semi-competitive under HSG-imposed stresses that are still not widely known.

[MFKS]

He'd be an excellent coach in a well-managed club. He kept the Jets semi-competitive under HSG-imposed stresses that are still not widely known.
Don't test the truth of what happened.

Tinkler ****ed us over the last season. Before that he gave plenty of latitude and money to the club.

There was no reason not to be successful in the early Tinkler years

[Tommyjet]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/alivodic-backs-stubbins-stay

It appears one of your banners is false member

[Thomas477]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/alivodic-backs-stubbins-stay

It appears one of your banners is false member

Alivodic out!

[lquiquer]

He still thinks if he says something bad about Stubbins he might have to go to play in the sandpit with Carney......Can someone explain to him the reign of terror is over / The dictator is on the verge to get the boot (Hopefully)!!

[stopper2]

Alivodic out!

My opinion of Alivodic has dropped markedly now.
This has been a big problem and a factor in the failings and dramas that went on this season.
Individuals doing and saying things just to promote their own selfish interests, not what is best for the club.
Yes, Alivodic is entitled to his opinion but would he have the same high opinion of Stubbins in private?
Alivodic is just concerned now for his own position in the club because under Stubbins he is probably safe in the knowledge that he is guaranteed a starting XI spot, Stubbins goes, new coach comes in and as we all know with a new coach, positions are always up for grabs.
Give me a Caravella any day over this Alivodic.....shown his true colours!

[WolfMan]

My opinion of Alivodic has dropped markedly now.
This has been a big problem and a factor in the failings and dramas that went on this season.
Individuals doing and saying things just to promote their own selfish interests, not what is best for the club.
Yes, Alivodic is entitled to his opinion but would he have the same high opinion of Stubbins in private?
Alivodic is just concerned now for his own position in the club because under Stubbins he is probably safe in the knowledge that he is guaranteed a starting XI spot, Stubbins goes, new coach comes in and as we all know with a new coach, positions are always up for grabs.
Give me a Caravella any day over this Alivodic.....shown his true colours!

Let's not get crazy - a lot of what he has "said" could have been taken wildly out of context or lost in translation.

I agree, his best course was to stay quiet until this all sorts itself out. He hasn't done that, but he probably doesn't mean to come across as a brown-nose

[MFKS]

Alivodic out!

Now we can see why we got this bloke and were baffled why a player of his talent came here and wanted to stay

Not that intelligent

Good player but not that smart between the ears

[lquiquer]

Jonny steele tweet to 442 regarding the Serbian's comment......:roflz::roflz::roflz::roflz:

FourFourTwo Oz retweeted
jonny steele ‏@jonnysteele22 3h3 hours ago
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[GazFish35]

Not biting the hand that feeds him.

The only players to speak out against him since the recent developments have been carney and griff.

If I were in alivodic's position I'd be keeping quiet, but if I did say anything I'd be making sure the still current manager can't misconstrue what I say and think I called him a muppet.

When the new gaffer gets announced, go to town.

[lquiquer]

@JamesGardiner42: Phil Stubbins says why he and staff deserve to keep jobs at @NewcastleJetsFC in @newcastleherald tomorrow. @SMHsport @newyboys....... FFS Muppet is really desperate !!!!!

[MFKS]

@JamesGardiner42: Phil Stubbins says why he and staff deserve to keep jobs at @NewcastleJetsFC in @newcastleherald tomorrow. @SMHsport @newyboys....... FFS Muppet is really desperate !!!!!

Lquiquer Remember this

Every Dog has his day.

We will be barking soon enough:thumbsup:

[MFKS]

PHIL Stubbins has implored Football Federation Australia to review the coaching set-up at the Newcastle Jets.

The Jets coach is in limbo after returning on Sunday from a scouting trip to Europe and is desperate to complete a two-year deal he ‘‘signed in good faith’’.

The FFA took control of the Jets last Wednesday after Nathan Tinkler had his A-League licence stripped.

Unlike the players, the contracts of Stubbins and support staff James Pascoe, Mark Jones and Jess Vanstrattan were not carried over by the FFA.

Their positions are now under scrutiny.

‘‘I hope that they do exactly what they say they will do and have a review,’’ he told the Herald from Adelaide, where his wife has a business. ‘‘In fact, I implore them.





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‘‘The coaching staff and myself would certainly welcome this outcome and perhaps, with transparency and dialogue, it will paint a positive picture to the one currently in the minds of many.

‘‘I honestly feel we can turn things around significantly if given the opportunity, especially after making so many tough decisions throughout the course of the campaign. The bottom line is that there are many things learnt from my first season with the Jets.

‘‘I simply request the chance to see through a two-year deal that I signed in good faith.’’

A decision is expected by the end of the week.

“FFA is looking at the needs of the new club from a technical, sports science, management and elite development point of view,’’ head of the A-League Damien de Bohun said.


“The coaches from the old club have not come across at this stage.

‘‘We plan to make an announcement on the process in the next few days.”

Under Stubbins, the Jets recorded three wins in 27 games to finish on 17 points, the worst haul in club history, and collected the wooden spoon.

‘‘I take ownership of my own role in the poor season,’’ Stubbins said. ‘‘More than anyone, I have empathy with the fans and what they have endured over the last five seasons. I take responsibility for my part in that.

‘‘When I came into the position, I made some mistakes with some signings.

‘‘Contrary to popular belief, last season’s roster was not assembled all of my own free will. I should have done things more my way.’’

The flashpoint was a 7-0 loss to Adelaide at Coopers Stadium on January 24.

That humiliating defeat sparked a week of blood-letting in which five senior players were sacked and the coaching staff, aside from Stubbins, departed.

The Jets were on eight points with one win at the time.

Pascoe, Jones and Vanstrattan were appointed and Daniel Mullen, Lee Ki-je and Enver Alivodic were added to the roster.

The Jets picked up nine points in the final 12 rounds, highlighted by wins over a second-string Wanderers and eventual champions Melbourne Victory.

A further nine players, headed by Edson Montano, Zenon Caravella and home-grown duo Taylor Regan and James Virgili, were let go at the end of the campaign.

Lee, Alivodic and Mullen have extended their deals. Nigel Boogaard, Andy Brennan and Themba Muata-Marlow are new faces.

‘‘The club now has a very solid foundation from which to build on,’’ Stubbins said.

‘‘We are on the right track with the age and profile demographic of the squad and I’m very confident that with the addition of the players that I have scouted in Europe this group is closer to success.

‘‘Ernie Merrick finished second last with both Wellington and Melbourne Victory in his opening campaigns, as did Ange Postecoglou at Brisbane Roar and Kenny Lowe at Perth. You need time when sweeping change needs to be made.’’

David Carney, who spent four months in limbo last season after falling out with Stubbins, has indicated he would welcome a change of coaches.

Caravella has also been highly critical of Stubbins.

Their view is in contrast to that of Alivodic and Mullen, who have this week come out in support of the embattled coach.

‘‘It seems that most of the people speaking out have been the ones that have been released or have angst at not playing,’’ Stubbins said.

‘‘The football environment is actually a very good one.’’

The governing body has offered players like-for-like contracts to the deals they were on at the Jets.

All bar keeper Mark Birighitti, who has been on loan at Italian Serie B club Varese, are expected to accept.

There was speculation on Monday that Birighitti, who is now a free agent, would join Perth as a replacement for Danny Vukovic.

However, the 24-year-old gloveman told the Herald last night that his preference was to stay in Europe.


Is that the first time Muppet has ever taken any responsibility publically for the failings of his reign???

When he is 100-1 to keep his job with his neck on the chopping board the honesty flows

No thanks

I believe Centrelink opens at 9am

[380]

Is that the first time Muppet has ever taken any responsibility publically for the failings of his reign???

When he is 100-1 to keep his job with his neck on the chopping board the honesty flows

No thanks

I believe Centrelink opens at 9am

Stubbins would have difficulty just meeting the minimum mutual obligation requirements of Centrelink with his reduced abilities.

[GazFish35]

Who is Themba muata-Marlow?

[MFKS]

Who is Themba muata-Marlow?

Sydney FC Yoof team player.

[Blackmac79]

As I said on the Herald comments.

When he says "Finish what I started", he means the entire destruction of the Jets as a club right?

[Jeterpool]

As I said on the Herald comments.

When he says "Finish what I started", he means the entire destruction of the Jets as a club right?

I pretty much just said the exact same thing...there's still 14 contracts to terminate.

Great minds and all that Blackmac

[boz-monaut]

that'll do Phil, that'll do...

[lquiquer]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/05/24/mullen-happy-jets-boss-stubbins-get-another-chance
Next Boogaard.....

[sammydog]

I find it completely astounding that he somehow expects his contract to be honoured, even though he completely disregarded the contracts of 5 players and 3 staff? I'm sure if asked those players also felt they were up to the job and wanted to stay and finish it.

Not sure if its arrogance or stupidity. Why should the muppet be treated differently.

You made your bed Phil, now lay in it.

To be honest, I would be amazed if the FFA went anywhere near him.

[Mark325]

I know it makes sense that he just left since he was on loan but that was the first time I'd seen or heard that Montano was leaving

Problem with Phil is this, if he had just simply come last place and gotten us the wooden spoon, I could be persuaded to give him another chance cause as he has said, many coaches that take reign have a dodgy first season and clean it up in the second. In his defence, we were playing some quality football seasons end and getting close results and two of our three wins came in that back half, you've gotta think with a better team like we started with we could have done even better playing that style.

But, he completely ravaged our club, took tinkler's side, defended the late payments, acted like an ass to the fans who deserved more then propaganda and lied to the players. As a result, he doesn't deserve the chance and I, along with everyone else want him out

[q-money]

who are these pricks ffs

[MFKS]

In his defence, we were playing some quality football seasons end and getting close results and two of our three wins came in that back half, you've gotta think with a better team like we started with we could have done even better playing that style.

I fully dispute this.

We were not playing quality football at seasons end. We jagged a win against a Yoof side and arsed a game against a side who were well off the mark that night.

We tended to drag teams down to bad performances when they played us.

We were a long way off the pace at the end of the season even if we had made some steps to bridge the gap.

[boz-monaut]

judging by Stubbins delusional view of the world he's probably waiting by the phone for Pérez to give him a call about the recently vacated spot at Real Madrid

[Mark325]

I fully dispute this.

We were not playing quality football at seasons end. We jagged a win against a Yoof side and arsed a game against a side who were well off the mark that night.

We tended to drag teams down to bad performances when they played us.

We were a long way off the pace at the end of the season even if we had made some steps to bridge the gap.

I completely worded what I wanted to say wrong, quality should've been replaced by better football. Near the end of the season we weren't getting thrashed, however you can dispute that stubbins had no part in that and it was more to do with Jones

[stopper2]

I fully dispute this.

We were not playing quality football at seasons end. We jagged a win against a Yoof side and arsed a game against a side who were well off the mark that night.

We tended to drag teams down to bad performances when they played us.

We were a long way off the pace at the end of the season even if we had made some steps to bridge the gap.

Thought our defensive structure had improved but like many were saying from David Lowe to Andy Harper, this had a lot to do with the influence of Mark Jones.

People also seem to conveniently forget that before the sackings we also had some decent performances, most notably the last minute loss to Victory.

To put into perspective the last round against Roar's Youth side to avoid the spoon and we put in such an insipid performance that summed up our whole season for me.

Lets not try to blur reality and make out that Stubbins turned the season around after January, we are just giving him recognition when he deserves the opposite.

[MFKS]

For some reason the Newy Herald had disabled comments on the article about Muppet's pleas for mercy.

Poor moderator was getting swamped.:rof:

[stopper2]

For some reason the Newy Herald had disabled comments on the article about Muppet's pleas for mercy.

Poor moderator was getting swamped.:rof:

I noticed that too, it was already up to 36 comments earlier. Reckon they could be heading for a new record!
Everyone venting their rage on the Muppet.

[la bazzle]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/05/24/mullen-happy-jets-boss-stubbins-get-another-chance
Next Boogaard.....

What a shit stain. "Stubbsy". All about the supporters? What a crock of shit. Mullen out. The new Gallaway for me

[boz-monaut]

bloke would rightfully be unemployed if 'Stubbsypoos' hadn't offered him a job

get rid of him

[boz-monaut]

the longer this drags on the more of these clowns will come out of hiding and back this dickhead

plus the more the deluded Muppet might think he will get to keep his job

nothing from the Stubbins era is worth saving - it should be wiped from history

[lquiquer]

What a shit stain. "Stubbsy". All about the supporters? What a crock of shit. Mullen out. The new Gallaway for me

Worse than Gallaway..... Even Gallaway would have scored that goal in Brisbane!!.. Hum maybe??

[stopper2]

What a shit stain. "Stubbsy". All about the supporters? What a crock of shit. Mullen out. The new Gallaway for me

Try as Mullen and Alivodic might, their opinions on Stubbsy are gong to mean jackshit after FFA complete their review....if it is done properly taking into account everyone involved at the club. Funny how the two players who have backed him have only recently come to the club. Both were not there in the months beforehand to witness the deterioration in the relationship between Stubbins and his players and the reasons behind it all.
Can understand you being sympathetic to Stubbsy Daniel, as he gave you a second chance here at the club, plus the leadership group and probably made promises to you for next season.....but please be smarter and keep these opinions to yourself....not doing yourself any favours!

[MFKS]

What a shit stain. "Stubbsy". All about the supporters? What a crock of shit. Mullen out. The new Gallaway for me

You deadest need to watch Pavicevic close up. He has the title all sewn up

Gallaway is a much superior player to him in everyway

[Jetmaster]

Ain't over till it's over.....Stubbsy still has fans around the country, especially in coaching circles. He will no doubt get to plead his case to the review panel and I don't know if they will take supporter feelings into account, unless they include it under community engagement.

Even though Voldemort is dead, Snape still lives....

[belchardo]

Ain't over till it's over.....Stubbsy still has fans around the country, especially in coaching circles. He will no doubt get to plead his case to the review panel and I don't know if they will take supporter feelings into account, unless they include it under community engagement.

Even though Voldemort is dead, Snape still lives....

wasn't snape eventually one of the good guys?

Malfoy's your man in that analogy IMO.

[Jetmaster]

wasn't snape eventually one of the good guys?

Malfoy's your man in that analogy IMO.

Nuh - Malfoy didn't die, and it was revealed that Snape (Stubbs) deep down loved and protected Harry Potter (Griff) even though he treated him like excrement all his life. Sacrificed himself for the greater good and was annointed a hero posthumously, allowing Harry/Griff to rise as the chosen one.

[parksey]

Ain't over till it's over.....Stubbsy still has fans around the country, especially in coaching circles. He will no doubt get to plead his case to the review panel and I don't know if they will take supporter feelings into account, unless they include it under community engagement.

Even though Voldemort is dead, Snape still lives....

spolier alert******



snape was a hero

[plague]

spolier alert******



snape was a hero

will always be Hans Gruber.

[plague]

Stubbsy still has fans around the country, especially in coaching circles.

Of course coaches are gonna back him.
He makes them look good.

Kenny Lowe is dead set Guardiola compared to that peanut.

[MFKS]

will always be Hans Gruber.

So if snape is Hans Gruber then that must make me John McLean.

Yippe. Ki Yay Mother****er

[plague]

So if snape is Hans Gruber then that must make me John McLean.


Steady on pal.
Why don't you just concentrate on being the MFKS first.
There's still a fair bit of work to be done there.

[lil_masi]

Stubbins officially gone!!!! Press release by the FFA. New coach to pick his coaching staff

[Grimario]

Yewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RoOwSKI7M

[Grimario]

Had a week off work.
Tinkler collapses.
FFA revokes license.
Run an amazing DG tournament.
Stubbins gets the boot.

This is possibly the greatest 7 days in my life.

[MFKS]

We Done It :lulzturtle:

That banner ****ing worked

[Mitchy]

Glorious

[margie]

break out the champagne

[plague]

Don't **** with Griff.

[q-money]

thanks member

[Grimario]

http://i.imgur.com/XX5WwTT.png

[boz-monaut]

Beethoven'sPastoralSymphony.mp3

[The Postman]

Huzzah

[Blackmac79]

****ity brilliant

[Jeterpool]

"We done it!"

[MFKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_tupPBtWQ

[380]

“But this decision is also driven by the desire in the Newcastle football community for a new beginning with the new club.”
Read more at http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/newcastle-jets-to-seek-new-head-coach/xpn5lahu3oo31rnx1akh1vl9v#0olSVPHG7L1ZOJWs.99

This sums it up for me.

Members vindication.

[redwah]

Break out the plastic flags (or is that fans, member) the masses can now do as they pledged and renew their memberships with the muppet and the fat controller gone.....onwards and upwards Jets.

[Bon]

Finally moving forward!!!

[pv4]

Will renew my membership now. Good stuff.

[Mark325]

Get in son

Now we've just gotta hope for a quality new coach along with a quality new owner and we may actually get some shit done for once

[Jeterpool]

Will renew my membership now. Good stuff.

Need to think about a proper scoreline

[Nelson Bay Road]

great news!!!

[MFKS]

Break out the plastic flags (or is that fans, member) the masses can now do as they pledged and renew their memberships with the muppet and the fat controller gone.....onwards and upwards Jets.

I just about had it all coming together with Stubbins and Tinker's reign of disaster cutting memberships so I could work out who these real fans and the plastic fans are.

Now I am ****ed trying to work out who the plastic ones are in the soon to be 10k+ crowds

[MFKS]

:lulzturtle:Usually our club is surrounded by controversy disaster bad press etc each off season.

This though would have to be the best off season ever.

Tinker gone
Muppet gone

In one week Doom and Gloom is lifted and 10000 fans look forward to 2015-16 with some excitement.

**** yeah

[Jeterpool]

What are we all going to complain about now? Who do we want out?

This feels wrong

[Imyourhero]

In all seriousness who do with think they'll appoint?

[weston]

:lulzturtle:Usually our club is surrounded by controversy disaster bad press etc each off season.

This though would have to be the best off season ever.

Tinker gone
Muppet gone

In one week Doom and Gloom is lifted and 10000 fans look forward to 2015-16 with some excitement.

**** yeah

We also dodged the Aloisi bullett. That has to be a good thing right?

[MFKS]

In all seriousness who do with think they'll appoint?

Jean Paul De Marigny

Is aligned to Ange Postecoglou's management firm.
That's where it will be done. Jobs for the boys etc

On another note so to is Arthur Pappas

[lquiquer]

We Done It :lulzturtle:

That banner ****ing worked

Sure did.....Great work Membah :thumbsup::woo:

[mervan]

Sure did.....Great work Membah :thumbsup::woo:

Best day of the year so far.

Happy to see pascoe gone as well, start with a clean slate.

Mark jones still has something to add, disappointed with this one.

gVE out and were done

[militiamon]

Newy, time to lay down your AKs, we did it.

[380]

Best day of the year so far.

Happy to see pascoe gone as well, start with a clean slate.

Mark jones still has something to add, disappointed with this one.

gVE out and were done

I wouldn't give up hope just yet on Jones. The way i read the " at this stage " part of the presser meant the door may still be open to him. We could do a lot worse than find a role for him. gets the job done without any BS or ego IMO.

[plague]

lets be clear though i still hate everything and everyone associated with this club.

[plague]

fix the beer and i might get a ticket though

[halo se7en]

I wouldn't give up hope just yet on Jones. The way i read the " at this stage " part of the presser meant the door may still be open to him. We could do a lot worse than find a role for him. gets the job done without any BS or ego IMO.

I agree... I think the "at this stage" basically meant "we'll see whether the new gaffer wants to keep you, or bring in his own crew"

[pv4]

I wouldn't give up hope just yet on Jones. The way i read the " at this stage " part of the presser meant the door may still be open to him. We could do a lot worse than find a role for him. gets the job done without any BS or ego IMO.

For the record I love Jones but this is the first time I've seen anyone of the belief he doesn't have an ego :rof:

[pv4]

Need to think about a proper scoreline

:rof: I done it!!

[The Camel]

For the record I love Jones but this is the first time I've seen anyone of the belief he doesn't have an ego :rof:

Agreed. Jones has one of the biggest egos in Newcastle. Decent number 2 though.

[plague]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/e53c8b5121411288a5ce32ab10c40f3b/tumblr_mwuul8XtwT1qdlh1io1_400.gif

And that's the end of the Stubbins era.

Close thread.

[lquiquer]

After 48 pages of StubbinsOut starting on 14/11/2014 the Muppet is finally gone!!!... It took 48 pages on the foz!!!! + few banners (thank you Member)

[furns]

I thought I had jinxed it with that 442 article on Friday and he would survive http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/jets-fans-want-stubbins-out

Thank Griff for that
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/cc/ccdb9c1bdc8c745ae389fd40950de56c0da8fd353a66724250 f3e5b8e6ac9207.jpg

[GazFish35]

Punxatawney didn't see his shadow!

Spring has sprung!

Go **** over another club.

[hawk]

and there was much rejoicing...for a while anyway until we realise that there's still a big hill to climb....ah stuff it, still rejoice.

[la bazzle]

1094

[la bazzle]

Can't wait to be a plastic fan again like the good old days. Prawn sandwiches Boz?

[snake]

Can't wait to be a plastic fan again like the good old days. Prawn sandwiches Boz?

miss u :wub:

[boz-monaut]

I can taste the thousand island dressing already
sitting out last season was the best decision ever

[la bazzle]

miss u :wub:

I can't wait for the reunion in bay 1 and to pick it again


I can taste the thousand island dressing already
sitting out last season was the best decision ever

Best thing you've done for the club since your last rage quit

[boz-monaut]

the entire season was a ragequit

probably my second most sucessfull ever

[Pico]

Newy, time to lay down your AKs, we did it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/271246-3x2-940x627.jpg

[redwah]

I just about had it all coming together with Stubbins and Tinker's reign of disaster cutting memberships so I could work out who these real fans and the plastic fans are.

Now I am ****ed trying to work out who the plastic ones are in the soon to be 10k+ crowds
Oh well, looks like you'll have to share your club with the hangers on.....that or just hang out at nesbitt park and truly support your local club.

[sammydog]

Ohhh, poor Dez Geraldi got burnt by GVE and now thinks Stubbins should be given more of a chance.

This reads more as a man with sour grapes against a club backing someone from his former club. Nothing balanced in here, except the GVE comments.



On the 29th of December 2009 I turned up to Newcastle Jets training facility after we had agreed to a short term deal, I was to sign for 6 months over the period of the Asian Champions League as the team was short on troops. I recall the original conversation when I was contacted by the club, my concern was that i was not match fit and needed a good 6-8 weeks of work under my belt. This was not an issue as there was some time before the Champions league kicked off.

A mutual friend drove me up to Newcastle and we left quite early in the morning to arrive in time for the teams training session, once I had arrived he spoke with a number of club staff and bid farewell. I was advised a club person would be waiting for me after training to take me to the hotel that had been arranged.
This is where I got my first taste of the Newcastle Jets and Garry Van Egmond, what a disaster!

Fortunately I had a few mates playing at the Jets and with their assistance I managed to get some training apparel, I had to scrounge for some strapping tape and strapped myself prior to training, not a real drama but I’d been at clubs like Adelaide United where these things don’t happen, players arrive on trial and they are given a full training kit, jacket, and any treatment needed prior or post training is taken care of by club doctor or physio. Either way this was not an issue for me personally, I didn’t mind strapping my ankle or wearing odd sized training gear, it just seemed unprofessional and generally when the back end is a mess its a reflection of the total operation.

Training was tough, an intense session and the boys had a real blow out, it was New Year’s Eve the next day so the club gave the boys a 2 day holiday, I guess Garry wanted to give the team a nice solid hit out before the 2 day lay off. I remember looking at poor old Spencer Prior during the session, veins were bulging out his neck and the heat was near unbearable… No doubt I battled through the session but I was happy to do the work and get some k’s into my legs.
Garry didn’t say two words to me that morning, we shook hands on arrival and then we were into it.

After training I was a little unsure who to speak to, I started to get a little concerned as the playing group were leaving the training ground, I was waiting for one of the coaching staff or club staff to take me to the hotel but even they were taking off without looking back. I asked a few guys where I was staying but no one knew anything, the next minute I’m left standing in the driveway of the training facility all alone with just my suitcase, everyone had gone and I had no idea what to do.

After about half an hour Kaz Petafta drove past, obviously it was a little strange to see me standing on the side of the road with a suitcase, he stopped and offered me a lift, the thing was I didn’t know where to go, we went to grab a bite to eat and bumped into Mark Milligan and Justin Pasfield, two good friends of mine, I was relieved to see them, once I had explained what had happened they started calling Craig Deans and a couple of club staff, Craig said he would organise something and that he would be in touch within an hour. Milsy just threw my suitcase in his car and took me to his place to relax for the afternoon, we had a swim down the beach and just lazed around the apartment waiting for someone to call or come and pick me up. Around 10pm I figured no one was calling, nor were they coming to pick me up, I crashed in Milsy’s spare room and slept like a baby.

I woke up on New Years Eve to a message from Garry Van Egmond, he was sorry to inform I was no longer required and wished me all the best. Probably not ideal news to wake up to but I figured I’d call him back to get some sort of explanation, of course he would not answer my calls nor did he ever return them.
I was now stuck in Newcastle on New Years Eve. Between Mark and Justin we managed to get a hold of Craig Deans, his solution to get me home was to throw me on a train back to wollongong. Luckily for Craig when he picked me up to take me to the train station he had his kids in the car because had they not have been there I may have told him exactly how I felt. To top off the most humiliating 2 days of my life Craig then tried to hand over a $20 note for my train ride home. Needless to say I declined and left the car without a word. Of course the train schedules were all over the place due to the New Years celebrations so 3 changeovers and 8 hours it took me to get home.

I’m experienced enough to realise the reason behind Van Egmonds decision not to sign me, I’m also experienced enough to know that how Garry and the Jets treated me over the two days was a disgrace to say the least!
Football is a matter of opinion and I understand that, I’m a realist, I was released by Adelaide United for no other reason than I wasn’t good enough to be there, I had my oportunities and never took them. I was also given the respect by Aurelio who pulled me aside to personally advise of his decision. I don’t hold any ill feelings toward Aurelio or the club.

However…. In this case with the Jets, the way I was treated was unacceptable and it is my opinion that Garry Van Egmond is a coward, put his coaching ability aside, as a person he is a coward. What would I have done if I didn’t know any of the players? What if I had no phone or no money? I was left to fend for myself by a club I had just agreed to sign with!

My reason for sharing this story is to give my view on what was already a very unprofessional operation, the recent sacking of Phil Stubbins gave me reason to voice my thoughts and I feel that Phil had the right intentions and had the right idea, it was just unfortunate his Boss and Jets owner Nathank Tinkler was trigger happy.
Through past discussions with some good friends who played in Newcastle my opinion is that the Newcastle Jets had developed an unprofessional culture, this culture has just evolved and players were there only for what they had done in the past, not for what they were producing at the time of incident. Joel Griffiths comes to mind, without a doubt one of the best strikers to play in the A-league, David Carney played 50 odd games for the Socceroos, Billy Celevski played over 100 games in the A-League and won the competition with Victory, one of the best midfielders I’ve played with, and we can’t forget Marcos Flores! These guys have a CV to die for.
Where were they on the 14th of November 2014?

They were all at hunter stadium, on the park, getting beat 4-0 by Brisbane Roar, a fortnight later they were back at hunter getting a 3-1 drumming by Wellington. Let’s be realistic here, on paper the Jets had a good squad, but clearly these guys were not playing to their standards. During the trying times these guys should have been the first to stand up and be counted… They went missing!

Sure the administration has plenty to answer in regards to players contracts being torn up or sacking players halfway through a two year deal but if Nathan Tinkler Asked me in December who I’d let go, these guys would have been on my list. Do I agree with the decisions Nathan Made and the way he went about his affairs? No, but I don’t feel that Phil Stubbins is to blame for the poor business decisions made by the Jets owners. I’m sure Phil was asked what he felt needed to happen to turn things around at the club, my guess is that he wanted a change in culture. Remove the old timber for stronger foundations, of course as we all know it’s a very tough thing to do because a player like Joel Griffiths was a club legend. Well if my boss asks me tomorrow what I would change in my workplace I would happily tell him, if he then goes and makes the changes the next day is that my fault? Sure Phil had to then back Tinklers actions but who wouldn’t, Joel Griffiths wasn’t writing Phil’s cheque every week, Tinkler was. (or maybe wasn’t at times)

I know Phil Stubbins well, I worked under him, in fact he may have been involved in my release from Adelaide United as he was Aurelio’s assistant, he never done me any personal favours so I’m not tooting his horn but what I will say is that he is about as knowledgeable and passionate as they come, a guy who was approachable at any time and a bloody good coach in my eyes, the game needs more people like Phil and I hope he is not lost to the A-League, I believe he made his choices for the good of the game and that meant russeling a few feathers, the poor treatment of the players involved is in the hands of the administration. The media are quick to jump on any negativity and in this case they cost Phil his job, I would have liked to see the FFA give Phil an opportunity to fulfil his commitment of change in the club, goodness they need it!

[militiamon]

Lol umm so his logic is that these four players were playing in a couple of games which we lost, and so therefore everything is their fault. Wonder if it every occurred to him that Stubbins is a dud coach and the result was his fault because he can't coach for shit.

Evidence: nearly all of the players the club let got last season went on to play successful roles in other teams. Yes, rookie Ernie Merrick signing Griff because Wellington forced the signing on to him.

Other lol part of that was at the end was where he said that it was the media's fault for Stubbins being sacked. Nah, I think that might have to do with the fact he won 3 games all season ffs.

[plague]

How epic would it have been to see Deans handing over a lobster with his screaming kids in the back of the car.

Stories like this are starting to make me fall in love with the Jets again.

[stopper2]

On Dez Giraldi, yeah good on him for sharing his experience with GVE but find it annoying when he has an opinion on Stubbins' tenure at the Jets and what happened without obviously speaking to any of the players. Calls GVE a coward, well I can think of nothing more cowardly then a coach sending a player a text message the night before a match to tell him that he is not in the match day squad.....that is just one snippet of the man, I'm sure there are many others.

[Buddha]

Spotted him at Honeysuckle Hotel with Jones and Vanstratten tonight, not only Is he clueless at being a coach, he's clueless at Trivia too.

[Jeterpool]

I'm over him now, to be honest hey.

Moving on...

[boz-monaut]

is it too late to grab our pitchforks and rush the Honeysuckle Hotel?

I'm not content with him being sacked and financially compromised, I want him run out of town

[furns]

Get him to ragequit the Hunter?

[stopper2]

I know it's all in the past now and been done and dusted for well over a week but I still think Stubbins got off lightly in the local media as compared to Tinkler.
Carney's whole career was put in limbo for months, others like Griffo and Kew were forced to move elsewhere while their young families remained in Newcastle, Celeski also with his wife expecting a child was also in limbo for weeks with his future uncertain, local lad Virgili being kept in the dark for 3 months on his future while injured and then being told he would not be re-signed, Neil Young having settled in Newcastle was forced back to re-locate to Perth. etc etc. These are all human beings who along with their families were affected by a person who placed his own self-interest above those of everyone elses, yet no one in the aftermath seemingly gives a toss in the media. Even when the decision was made to sack Stubbins and Jets supporters wanted to vent their opinions on The Herald website in relation to the news, The Herald chose to close the site down because of "defamatory" comments....couldn't they just have chosen not to include those "defamatory" comments?
The past few months in particular a lot of rumours and innuendo were flying around the Hunter about what was really going on at the Jets and in fairness to Stubbins it probably wasn't appropriate to discuss this at length in the media while he was still at the club. Now he is gone, for many there are still questions that remain unanswered; Carney, Griffo and Caravella are but a few who have touched on the whole sorry saga under Stubbins' reign but for the many others who suffered and who were unfairly treated there is still much to be told I believe.

[Jeterpool]

I know it's all in the past now and been done and dusted for well over a week but I still think Stubbins got off lightly in the local media as compared to Tinkler.
Carney's whole career was put in limbo for months, others like Griffo and Kew were forced to move elsewhere while their young families remained in Newcastle, Celeski also with his wife expecting a child was also in limbo for weeks with his future uncertain, local lad Virgili being kept in the dark for 3 months on his future while injured and then being told he would not be re-signed, Neil Young having settled in Newcastle was forced back to re-locate to Perth. etc etc. These are all human beings who along with their families were affected by a person who placed his own self-interest above those of everyone elses, yet no one in the aftermath seemingly gives a toss in the media. Even when the decision was made to sack Stubbins and Jets supporters wanted to vent their opinions on The Herald website in relation to the news, The Herald chose to close the site down because of "defamatory" comments....couldn't they just have chosen not to include those "defamatory" comments?
The past few months in particular a lot of rumours and innuendo were flying around the Hunter about what was really going on at the Jets and in fairness to Stubbins it probably wasn't appropriate to discuss this at length in the media while he was still at the club. Now he is gone, for many there are still questions that remain unanswered; Carney, Griffo and Caravella are but a few who have touched on the whole sorry saga under Stubbins' reign but for the many others who suffered and who were unfairly treated there is still much to be told I believe.

And what will the media now having a go at Stubbins achieve? The only reason it needs to be brought up is if these people feel they have an entitlement to compensation.

He's gone. It's time we all moved on and focus our efforts on making things better for the future, not dredging up and focusing on the past..

[stopper2]

And what will the media now having a go at Stubbins achieve? The only reason it needs to be brought up is if these people feel they have an entitlement to compensation.

He's gone. It's time we all moved on and focus our efforts on making things better for the future, not dredging up and focusing on the past..

Fair enough that's your opinion and I'm sure many would agree with you and I do to a certain extent.
Thing is that in particular the five sacked players were tainted with the "troublemakers" brush and I just feel that their side of the side of story hasn't truly been heard yet (and that of course depends on whether they want to discuss it anyway).

In the end the fact that Stubbins' career as an A League coach is most probably dead ad buried is probably consolation enough for the many that he effected in his time here.

[Jetmaster]

Whether right or wrong the boss is entitled to make decisions he sees fit. And I do get the vibe that the famous five were not 100% guilt free angels either.

[380]

Fair enough that's your opinion and I'm sure many would agree with you and I do to a certain extent.
Thing is that in particular the five sacked players were tainted with the "troublemakers" brush and I just feel that their side of the side of story hasn't truly been heard yet (and that of course depends on whether they want to discuss it anyway).

In the end the fact that Stubbins' career as an A League coach is most probably dead ad buried is probably consolation enough for the many that he effected in his time here.


I don't think the media could do any better a job on him that he has not done to himself IMO. People in " the game " associated with clubs in this league will be more than aware of his shortcomings he clearly demonstrated here in Newy in regards to his treatment off the field of those around him.

The mere fact that the muppet will most likely have to move again to some third rate B League o/seas to get a first team gig is punishment enough, No more missing NYL games and training days to get his end wet back in S.A at the drop of a hat as he will be too far away.

He brought a fair bit upon himself and even if he does jag a role as an asst somewhere here Aust i will be the first to offer our esteemed member a hand in making a banner to let the bloke know we outlasted him and is arrogent bullshit attitude to those who refused to buy his repeated crap.

[MFKS]

He brought a fair bit upon himself and even if he does jag a role as an asst somewhere here Aust i will be the first to offer our esteemed member a hand in making a banner to let the bloke know we outlasted him and is arrogent bullshit attitude to those who refused to buy his repeated crap.
The banner will be done within days of him getting a gig somewhere and the stars aligning and ready to rock n roll

If Muppet comes back to Newy the only help I will need is having someone post my bail money for me.
Job will be yours if you want it


I will be getting dragged out of the stadium every step of the way as the abuse flying over the fence will be at a level someone will want me gone.

PS The other thing is I will be also getting my moneys worth and stringing it out :rof:

[MFKS]

Heard at the WE that back in the day when Branko got the arse and Tinkler had enthusiasm for the club (well some) that the clubs first choice to Branko replace was not GVE.

The clubs first choice was sounded out and a deal could not be done for whatever reason and the club moved on and signed GVE.



Bloke in question was none other than Muppet.

Yep We could have had Muppet Managing us in 2011 if things had of panned out differently.

Needless to say second time around the club got their MAN and boy was that a great decision

[De-Champ]

Heard at the WE that back in the day when Branko got the arse and Tinkler had enthusiasm for the club (well some) that the clubs first choice to Branko replace was not GVE.

The clubs first choice was sounded out and a deal could not be done for whatever reason and the club moved on and signed GVE.



Bloke in question was none other than Muppet.

Yep We could have had Muppet Managing us in 2011 if things had of panned out differently.

Needless to say second time around the club got their MAN and boy was that a great decision

which one was worse?

[Footyhead]

Anyone know what the Muppet is doing now ? Is he still in this town ?... sorry just saw earlier post he's doing the trivia rounds !!

[Grimario]

Anyone know what the Muppet is doing now ? Is he still in this town ?

Hopefully they couldn't afford to fly him home and he's stuck in England.

[stopper2]

Anyone know what the Muppet is doing now ? Is he still in this town ?... sorry just saw earlier post he's doing the trivia rounds !!

Maybe ask Pascoe, he was after all his right hand man for the last few months of the season!!!

[lquiquer]

Poor kids.....@johnnyddavidson: Phil Stubbins goes back to school https://t.co/hMkYYz9XvE @rawprawn25 @behindthegamepd @newyboys @nfhistory @ZadsLads @aaronkearneyaus

[380]

Scar the kids for life that experience will.

[lquiquer]

Moving forward kids

[BodyNovo]

tinks didn't become a major sponsor of Adelaide high did he?

[Grimario]

Look at this absolute shit.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/phil-stubbins-bounces-back-from-newcastle-jets-crash/story-fnii0g1d-1227588292000?sv=17128fa0c3ff30c639f73083f89961d8

Stubbins was the fall guy!
None of the players he punted have got contracts now so that's somehow proof that he was right? **** off, Kew went straight into finals football and Griff would have been golden boot and JW Medal again with Nix if he didn't do his knee.

**** off Val, you father of a shit goalkeeper.

[BodyNovo]

that was a painful ****ing read

[Grimario]

It's basically an article with Val sticking his nose as far up Nubbins arse as he possibly can.

Ridiculous.

[MFKS]

What a load of shit.

The bloke had his chance to build a side last pre season chose not to so and it ****ing imploded.

If he was still here yeah we may have done better this year

It would be hard not to.


Where the **** were his signings he made last year??

Madaschi Celevski Jeronimo Flores Montano etc. They all left.

[boz-monaut]

how is this even an argument?

Stubbins was/is an absolute failure - there's no way you can take anything positive out of his record with us, I mean look at it

it's like a crazy person telling you they're a hedgehog - you usually just give them a mirror and a few pictures of hedgehogs and let them work it out

give Stubbins his win/loss record, articles about how shit he was, the combined hatred of everyone involved in football in Australia, a few pictures of cunce and a mirror and he'll eventually work it out

[lquiquer]

Muppet coach. Muppet writer......Both Manamana

[Thomas477]

There is one positive to come out of Muppets reign, Miller.