Rd 10 Perth Glory v Newcastle Jets 12/12/14 k/off 9:45pm AEDST

[Jeterpool]

http://www.newcastlefootball.net/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/perthglory-e1414805962812.gif VS http://www.newcastlefootball.net/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/newcastlejets-e1413532183814.gif

2014/2015 Hyundai A-League
Season 10 Round 10
Perth Glory FC vs Newcastle United Jets FC

When: Friday 12th December, 2014
Where: NIB Stadium, 310 Pier St, Perth, WA
Kickoff: 945pm AEDST (645pm local time)
Watch: LIVE on Foxsports 4 and FoxSports 4HD
Listen: ABC Perth 720AM or ABC Grandstand Digital online/ABC Radio mobile app
Tweet: @newyboys #PERvNEW #NTUA

2014/15 A-League Round 10 Preview – Perth Glory v Newcastle Jets


FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 28 games between the two teams.
Jets Wins – 6, Glory Wins – 16, Drawn – 6


In Perth – 14 games
Jets Wins – 1, Glory Wins – 9, Drawn – 4

Average Away A-League crowd – 8431

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 30, Glory – 51

Cards in Fixture
Jets – 55 (54 Yellow, 1 Red), Glory – 46 (43 Yellow, 3 Red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets – LDDLD
Glory – WDWWW

Leading Scorers
Jets – Joel Griffiths 3, Glory – Andy Keogh 6

Last Result -
Jets 1 (Neumann 74’) – Glory 2 (Maclaren 76, 77’) at nib Stadium, A-League Round 4, 1/11/2014.

FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Haliti 13’, Brockie 54’, Petrovski 68’Penalty, Petrovski 69’) – Glory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Midweek Round 1, Season 6, 10/02/2011.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 (Parisi 71’) – Glory 5 (Mori 33’, Harnwell 46’, Despotovski 52’, Mori 62’, Sekulovski 81’), Round 7, Season 1 at Energy Australia Stadium, 08/10/2005.

Leading Scorers in fixture –

Jets – 6 (Joel Griffiths)
Glory – 7 (Jamie Harnwell)


2014/15 SEASON STATISTICS

Appearances

9 Kew Jaliens, David Carney, Joel Griffiths, Edson Montano
8 Andrew Hoole, Jeronimo Neumann
7 Sam Gallagher
6 Mark Birrighiti , Zenon Caravella, Marco Flores, Jacob Pepper, Scott Neville
5 Taylor Regan, Allan Wesh
4 James Virgili, Sam Gallaway, Ben Kantarovsk,i Adrian Madaschi, Billy Celeski
3 Ben Kennedy
2 Jonny Steele
1 Nicholas Cowburn


Goals

3 Joel Griffiths
2 Edson Montano
1 Kew Jaliens, Jeronimo Neumann, Marco Flores



Assists

2 David Carney
1 Joel Griffiths, Scott Neville, Jacob Pepper, Taylor Regan, Andrew Hoole



Yellow Cards

3 Taylor Regan, Kew Jaliens, Jeronimo Neumann
2 Jacob Pepper, Marcos Flores, Edson Montano, Adrian Madaschi,
1 Jonny Steele, David Carney, Allan Welsh, Ben Kantarovski, Sam Gallaway,



Red Cards

None


COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 2 matches
Phil Stubbins - 0 wins, Kenny Lowe - 2 wins, 0 drawn,

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Phil Stubbins - 1 Matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = -% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (3 wins, 6 drawn and 7 losses = 19% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 4 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - 0 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = -% win ratio)

Perth Glory Coach Record – Kenny Lowe 100% win ratio (3 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses)

KEY FACTS:

Perth is currently on an 8-match undefeated streak.
The Jets current streak in Perth is 13 matches winless. The Jets have lost the last 8 matches in Perth.
The Jets are currently on the second longest winless streak in their history. It currently stands at 9 matches while the record is 11 matches without a win.
Last week was the first time 25 matches the Jets have lost when leading at half time.
The Jets haven’t kept a clean sheet in 9 matches. The current record is 18 matches between Season 7 and 8.
The Jets haven’t kept a clean sheet in 10 matches in Perth.
This season is not the leanest for goals scored at the corresponding stage. The worst was Season 6 when we had scored only 5. It is, however, our worst defensive record at this stage.
The Jets have only scored 4 goals in the last 4 matches in Perth but have conceded 10.
The Jets only win in Perth was on a Friday night.
The Jets have scored 9 second half goals in Perth.
The Jets haven’t scored more than 1 goal away from home this season.
This season the Jets have conceded 10 goals in the last 20 minutes (70 minutes+) and 9 in the 70 minutes prior to that.
Ben Kantarovski made his 90th appearance and Joel Griffiths his 70th last weekend.
Joel Griffiths scored his 30th A-League goal for the club last weekend.
The Jets last clean sheet in Perth was back in Season 3, Round 1. The clean sheet was kept by Ante Covic.
Ken Lowe has a 100% win record against the Jets, winning all 3 matches in charge.
All 4 players dismissed in this match have been given straight red cards. There hasn’t been a player dismissed for two bookable offences.
Michael Thwaite the player who has received the most yellow cards in this fixture with 4.
The current Glory player who has scored the most A-League goals against the Jets is Chris Harold with 3.

[Jeterpool]

Jets v Glory Trivia:

1. How many penalties has Joel Griffiths scored for the Jets in his legendary career?

2. Who are the two players to have scored an own goal in this fixture?

3. Who was the first player booked in this fixture?

[MFKS]

Jets v Glory Trivia:

1. How many penalties has Joel Griffiths scored for the Jets?

2. Who are the two players to have scored an own goal in this fixture?

3. Who was the first player booked in this fixture?

Question 1 Is that Against Perth Only or in Griffs legendary career against all comers???

Question 2 I know for absolute certain one of them is definitely Durante

[Jeterpool]

Question 1 Is that Against Perth Only or in Griffs legendary career against all comers???

Question 2 I know for absolute certain one of them is definitely Durante

Question 1, his legendary career.

Question 2, no comment :woo:

Also, I'm waiting for you to pick a few gem stats out of this week's edition. I found them and had your response in mind!

[pv4]

Did Tiago score an OG the day he scored a legit goal too? Something tells me yes..

[Jeterpool]

Did Tiago score an OG the day he scored a legit goal too? Something tells me yes..

Something tells me no.

[leftrightout]

Question 2 I know for absolute certain one of them is definitely Durante

One of the greatest you will see... still the best goal Dura has ever scored!

[belchardo]

who did kanta score his oggie against?

anyway, I'm optimistic that we will perform even worse than last weekend.

[WolfMan]

I'm on the 2-0 tip, with Perth having the FFA Cup Final to think about a few days later, they'll rest Keogh at Half Time and we won't cop a hiding. They'll still do it at a canter (Kanta?) though

[Jeterpool]

who did kanta score his oggie against?

anyway, I'm optimistic that we will perform even worse than last weekend.

Nobody said the other player was a Jet

[Jeterpool]

Maybe the anger is subsiding, but we could do something. No pressure, playing away from home, nobody expect you to win, FFA Cup final ahead. This could be the weekend! Honestly, a victory over CCM was the weekend we needed to do it.

[WolfMan]

I've still got the Wellington game on IQ box if you want to refresh your memory…

[MFKS]

Maybe the anger is subsiding, but we could do something. No pressure, playing away from home, nobody expect you to win, FFA Cup final ahead. This could be the weekend! Honestly, a victory over CCM was the weekend we needed to do it.

I am pretty happy to engage in a monetary bet if you feel this way??

As for your stats you may as well enlighten us as I ain't seeing anything as we are shit v Perth and your stats are confirming it


Ps as for Kanta's og it was v Heart and their first ever goal

[plague]

Maybe the anger is subsiding, but we could do something. No pressure, playing away from home, nobody expect you to win, FFA Cup final ahead. This could be the weekend! Honestly, a victory over CCM was the weekend we needed to do it.
Go home.
You're drunk.

[Jeterpool]

I am pretty happy to engage in a monetary bet if you feel this way??

As for your stats you may as well enlighten us as I ain't seeing anything as we are shit v Perth and your stats are confirming it


Ps as for Kanta's og it was v Heart and their first ever goal

Nah I'm good thanks. Not that confident.

I thought the streak info would be something you'd fancy.

[furns]

match details added

[Beeen]

1. ??
2. Durante
3. Harnwell

[hawk]

wow, checkout how many key facts JP statto has in. you forgot that Perths players have a combined total of more boot studs.

great effort tho

[Premy]

who did kanta score his oggie against?

anyway, I'm optimistic that we will perform even worse than last weekend.
I'm pretty sure that was Heart and if I'm not mistaken it could have been Hearts first goal

Edit: Member beat me

[lquiquer]

Hope team travelling to Perth today?
@NewcastleJetsFC: The Newcastle Jets have named a 16-man squad for Friday night's clash with Perth Glory at nib Stadium http://t.co/6mNv4ZGYNd #PERvNEW #NTUA

[MFKS]

Why do we name a squad early??

Why not just name the entire 23man squad and keep the actual team/squad under wraps from the public until the last minute.

[belchardo]

Why do we name a squad early??

Why not just name the entire 23man squad and keep the actual team/squad under wraps from the public until the last minute.

it's pretty obvious who's going to be playing when only 16 players get on the plane... (remember, not a dollar more being spent than necessary. bad luck if one pulls a muscle on the flight)

[outsider]

Referee Kris Griffiths-Jones

[joel31]

Gallaway in but he doesn't even make us worse these days

[Superdylan]

This is going to be painful too watch

Too painful IMO.

[MFKS]

More importantly Perth paying $1.40 to win the game

Paying better value to win the second half at $1.75 with our fitness woes and failures late on that looks good value.

Also Griff is paying $5 to score anytime in game and $12 to score 1st goal.

Best value though is $2.75 for us to get the spoon. As long is there is no Melburn Storm salary cap rort from some club almost guaranteed

[belchardo]

going to be a tough match tomorrow night...for me to watch that is.

late game
no beer
early morning run on saturday

should just headbutt the wall until i pass out, would be less painful.

[goaliepersempre]

this will be a 0 pointer with 4 goals scored...

[MFKS]

Apparently Griff is leading the attack and will be played as the 9 in his CORRECT position

FINALLY :woo:

[joel31]

Apparently Griff is leading the attack and will be played as the 9 in his CORRECT position

FINALLY :woo:
source

[MFKS]

source


After his goal in last week’s 3-1 loss to Wellington last week, veteran Joel Griffiths is expected to lead Newcastle’s attack, with Ecuardorian Edson Montano to come off the bench.

Jammed in the bottom of Stubbins weekly dribble to the Herald that we are together they players are committed and working hard and all the other PR bullshit they spit out each week to try and convince gullible idiots Rome isn't burning whilst Middleby Fiddles. No need to post that shite

[Jeterpool]

Cooper to play in behind?

[belchardo]

Apparently Griff is leading the attack and will be played as the 9 in his CORRECT position

FINALLY :woo:

question is - was Montano dropped for his training bust up, or is this a formation change?

[Grimario]

After tonight's game, Dundee United are definitely going to buy Tinkler out. They love things well battered.

[MFKS]

question is - was Montano dropped for his training bust up, or is this a formation change?

Formation change??

We have not changed our formation all season bar during the Roar game when Stubbins finally put 2 up front and even then the second striker was still withdrawn a little.
We persist in this 4-3-3 the only difference with it is that due to our ineptness it is often a 4-5-1 as the wide attackers are pinned back defending due to our ineptness leaving our central striker ridiculously isolated

[Tommyjet]

Picture has Caravella in a discussion with griff, kanta and Stubbs. If roundabout starts, especially instead of pepper, ill be switching over to something else.

[MFKS]

Picture has Caravella in a discussion with griff, kanta and Stubbs. If roundabout starts, especially instead of pepper, ill be switching over to something else.

The treatment of Pepper this season has been a ****ing disgrace. Dropped from the side for **** knows what reason after alright performances and then left out for weeks as inept ****s continued to **** up.

Seriously who comes up with this shit

[Grimario]

Has Pepper played an away game yet? It's possible that he clashes with Cinnamon.

[MFKS]

Has Pepper played an away game yet? It's possible that he clashes with Cinnamon.

Played the first 4

From memory last week was his first home game

[Jeterpool]

Has Pepper played an away game yet? It's possible that he clashes with Cinnamon.

Played the first 4, all away from home

[Grimario]

Played the first 4, all away from home

Thanks, bad joke killer.

[Nou Camp]

think someone has slipped something in my water
im actually thinking we can jag a win....

[Jeterpool]

think someone has slipped something in my water
im actually thinking we can jag a win....

I'm with you....something about tonight...I dunno.

[Jeterpool]

Thanks, bad joke killer.

Pleasure :brrr:

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

I'm with you....something about tonight...I dunno.

I said the same thing last week. It didn't work out so well, so I'm not game to say it again....

[Jeterpool]

I said the same thing last week. It didn't work out so well, so I'm not game to say it again....

They've been written off this week and added to the fact they aren't playing in front of the home fans (which SHOULDN'T be an advantage mind you) means they maybe, just maybe will rock up.

I wonder if they've been doing any late-night sessions to try and get their bodies ready for the time difference?

[weston]

Didn't realise we play tonight. I can't watch as I'm going to my sister inlaws 21st. Now I have 2 reasons to drink tonight.

[WolfMan]

Montano was rested for our first trip to Perth, yeh? I mean, he came off the bench.

That worked out well for us…

[My2BobsWorth]

Jets 2-0. Zad 2 o/g. Accidental of course.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Tinkler there watching :|

[belchardo]

Fk me! Tinks is at the game!!!!!!!!!

[Wilso8948]

And BK wearing orange......

[belchardo]

Ref must have picked yellow first.

[Wilso8948]

Na I think he's just giving a shout out to our new owners

[belchardo]

Caravan kills his first attack of the night

[Scourge]

He probably thought the beer and pie deal was this weekend and thought he'd grab a few before ditching us

[pv4]

Anyone got a stream link?

[westjet]

Anyone got a stream link?

http://www.wiziwig.tv/

[MFKS]

Kanta 8 touches 8 cough ups

[westjet]

How the **** is that not offside!

[goaliepersempre]

and theres the goal....

[belchardo]

Unbelievable work from the assistant. Great tracking from whoever was marking Garcia

[evolution]

That's bullshit... De Silva was involved in active play, should have been pulled up. F#@k!

[Bremsstrahlung]

Hmmm, Ball going straight to De Silva (miles offside), Neville sticks out a boot before it reaches him, and pops it up to Garcia (onside).
Commentators banging on that it was a poor decision...
1-0 Perth.

[MFKS]

Gallagher is worse than Gallaway

[goaliepersempre]

we are rubbish...

[goaliepersempre]

eh you can give it or you cannot he was some way behind neville..... in anycase.. shit clearance from neville and the kews moments later...... these are pro footballers ffs.....

so much more movement by perth and movement with purpose...

[goaliepersempre]

FFS carney and then clearance out for a corner.... ARGH

[Wilso8948]

Gallagher is absolute puss

[The Dunster]

I'm now listening to the game on radio for fear of kicking a hole in my TV and Foxtel box

[MFKS]

Gallagher is absolute puss

You could take him off now and put Galloway on and no one would be unhappy

[belchardo]

2 from 2 attack kills for caravan

[goaliepersempre]

You could take him off now and put Galloway on and no one would be unhappy

how bad it is when it comes to statements like this.... but its true :(

[Footyhead]

Tinkler in the stands

[The Dunster]

Stubbins is a tactical genius. How much does he have on Perth for the win ?

[evolution]

When are we going to stop pretending that Kantarovski is a competent footballer?

[Wilso8948]

Stubbins is a tactical genius. How much does he have on Perth for the win ?
They were the first leg picked in my weekend multi

[pv4]

http://www.wiziwig.tv/

Cheers pal.

Most exciting part of the game so far was seeing Tinks in the stands :rof:

[The Dunster]

Gallagher ------------------- FFS get him off

[MFKS]

How the **** is that a free kick???

[belchardo]

Madaschi and Kew just does not work

[goaliepersempre]

914

tinks in the stand lol

[Footyhead]

Is Kew wearing a hairnet ?

[joel31]

griff should've scored that

[goaliepersempre]

damnit stream died

[joel31]

not bad carney

[joel31]

damnit stream died
http://www.soccer2all.net/index.php?channel=3

[WolfMan]

You could take him off now and put Galloway on and no one would be unhappy

Sad indictment, but totally agree. Initially thought Gallagher was far better, but he has come back down to earth in my mind.

[MFKS]

griff should've scored that
What you talking about?? Was a perfectly weighted lay off to some **** clearly not on his level of ability

[goaliepersempre]

our service is rubbish.... cheers got another good one up now re the stream joel31

[leftrightout]

Gallagher is worse than Gallaway

The guy is an awful footballer! The ony reason I knew we had a left back was because he gave the ball away everytime. He is none existent in defence, way out of position!
Commentators stats said it all, he has 10 a-league appearances, only 1 win and that was for victory when he got sent off very early in the game!

[Footyhead]

Just wait for the Jets unfitness to kick in at the 70min mark... Should end up about 4-0

[pv4]

Does anyone remember the last full game you were thoroughly impressed by our team? Was it the wellington at home game?

[joel31]

whats he doing

[joel31]

if he placed that in the corner then 1-1

[MFKS]

Ffs you ranga.

Go find some kids to swear at

[Footyhead]

f u c k me, someone must be paying these CUNCE to lose

[pv4]

It's actually lucky that Carney didn't score. I'm pretty sure Bridges accidentally left the stopwatch at home. Could have been a coaching disaster.

[goaliepersempre]

we have almost zero explosive power and are too slow..... pace, decisions etc etc

[belchardo]

Why go inside then into the crowd?

:banghead:

[late_to_the_game]

Why Pepper off, watch the Perth midfield open us up now......

I would have yanked Caravan.

[goaliepersempre]

Rubezzzzz

[goaliepersempre]

game over...... griff of... :(

[evolution]

Griff subbed, time to turn off the TV.

[Footyhead]

Why go inside then into the crowd?

:banghead:

Cos he NEVER passes forward, must always be within his rear 180D peripheral

[pv4]

Madaschi has soft tissue injury after the 70th minute every single game.

Exactly what are our physios and sports scientists doing

[The Dunster]

Kew out next week

[belchardo]

Far out.

[Retro Jet]

No matter how long these purple shits are in a football competition in this country, their supporters will forever continue to be the most unoriginal and boring turds that Oz can spew up.
Shit supporters = Zero NT games to the West.

[evolution]

Fark that was bad Kew...

[belchardo]

Looked like Kew was sick of playing this shit and decided to give himself an early shower and a week off. Gives him more time to work on his hairdo.

[MFKS]

These ****s in purple not allowed to get cards or something???

[belchardo]

Shot

[The Dunster]

Perth 2 - Shit Cunce 0

[MFKS]

I take it roundabout gets an assist for that??

[pv4]

Looooooool Zenon

[Footyhead]

Caravella is shit, loses the ball, spins on the spot with no direction, dribbles it out past the sideline

[Retro Jet]

Jeterpool...wanna give some stats on A-League shitness that we're accelerating towards plz?

[belchardo]

Feel sorry for the 4 jets fans that made the effort to go to the match tonight.

Feel more sorry for the 9000 that make the effort next week.

[belchardo]

Just needs an injury time oggie to round things off nicely

[Wilso8948]

Feel sorry for the 4 jets fans that made the effort to go to the match tonight.

Feel more sorry for the 9000 that make the effort next week.

What about us douchebags that stay up till midnight to watch this shit then will still waste our time going next week

[Footyhead]

Nice save BK

[Tommyjet]

Have been better in second half but we are still seriously painful to watch

[pv4]

Wish they would have scored from that - BK looked distinctly poor at not coming out enough, and then the slip when he got chipped.

More goals shipped - time to give Biraz a run again.

[goaliepersempre]

thank **** that shower of shite is over....

[belchardo]

Sigh. Look forward to reading the rage in the morning.

[Frodo]

Wish they would have scored from that - BK looked distinctly poor at not coming out enough, and then the slip when he got chipped.

More goals shipped - time to give Biraz a run again.

Stupid comment.

[cymonster]

Anyone see the jets player that looked like he threw a couple of punches towards a Perth player

[ToddG NBUnited]

Kew just missed the ball and then slipped is all.

[Grimario]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp47z1BDXD1qdqhxjo1_500.gif

[pv4]

Stupid comment.

I just want both keepers held to the same standard of judgement. Biraz was doing as well if not better than BK when he got dropped.

[MFKS]

Carney -

I think it needs to get worse and I think it will before it gets better.
Something to look forward to

[pv4]

Kew just missed the ball and then slipped is all.

Yep that's what it seemed to me. Instant remorse and everything too.

[Grimario]

Anyone see the jets player that looked like he threw a couple of punches towards a Perth player

Gallagher right towards the end at Rostyn Griffiths?

[goaliepersempre]

I just want both keepers held to the same standard of judgement. Biraz was doing as well if not better than BK when he got dropped.

agreed....

[The Dunster]

Gallagher punching Risdon is the only thing he did right tonight

[Frodo]

We were horrible again.. whatever... but Perth don't look anywhere near the best team in the HAL. They didn't offer too much for 60 minutes and actually gave our guys some confidence. Once we handed it to them i think they did everything they needed to do to earn 3 points but i wasn't impressed by them at all.

First goal was a cracker of an offside. Would love to hear them explain that one to Stubbs after the game.

Adelaide will be hurting after their loss this week, next week should be a good exhibition in attacking football.

[WolfMan]

Yep that's what it seemed to me. Instant remorse and everything too.

Never intentional, but still deserved the red. Unlucky but ugly

[The Dunster]

I just want both keepers held to the same standard of judgement. Biraz was doing as well if not better than BK when he got dropped.

You constantly run BK down regardless of how he plays you gypo kunt.
Biraz was dropped not because of his last game but for the season of shit before it.
He had plenty of chances to impress and he simply has not.

[Frodo]

Gallagher punching Risdon is the only thing he did right tonight

I wasn't sure if thats what id seen. Pretty stoked that he stood up to him, i think he stood on Gallagher's ankle. Sam couldn't pass a ball but he made a goal line clearance and made some hard tackles. Tried to win some points back.

[cymonster]

Mark ruden is going on about how Kew tackle is him saying he doesn't want to be there. Did he watch the same tackle

[The Dunster]

The entire team could be dropped because there is little if anything positive to come from this game.

[Frodo]

The entire team could be dropped because there is little if anything positive to come from this game.

We didn't lose because of fitness/effort this time. It was ineptitude in attack and then our defence crumbled. I'm afraid Carney (and Griff a little bit) are most to blame for this loss. That and everyone who couldn't make a good cross/pass inside the box everytime we got up top.

[The Dunster]

We didn't lose because of fitness/effort this time. It was ineptitude in attack and then our defence crumbled. I'm afraid Carney (and Griff a little bit) are most to blame for this loss. That and everyone who couldn't make a good cross/pass inside the box everytime we got up top.

Agreed. While I don't think Stubbins is doing a good job I'm now starting to wonder if anyone could get this lot firing?

[Mitchy]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ZN8wGIxBI

[lquiquer]

And now we have to endure 7 days of intense bullshit promotion of next week game 10 year anniversary ...... More crap talk and more lies from management, coaches, players on how they have to stick together....,blah blah blah we got goals in us and everything is going to be ok........ Oh it's so painful ...... !!!

[Retro Jet]

And now we have to endure 7 days of intense bullshit promotion of next week game 10 year anniversary ...... More crap talk and more lies from management, coaches, players on how they have to stick together....,blah blah blah we got goals in us and everything is going to be ok........ Oh it's so painful ...... !!!

Maybe Adelaide will sign Carl Veart as a cameo....just for the occasion. Old Kent will score.

[lquiquer]

Carney
"I think it needs to get worse and I think it will before it gets better"
^^^ Scary........ So the message is : we keep loosing till new management comes in, new coach, viva la revolution, new Presidente, new players and then we start again....... Says it all.....

[GazFish35]

Wish they would have scored from that - BK looked distinctly poor at not coming out enough, and then the slip when he got chipped.

More goals shipped - time to give Biraz a run again.

"Shipping" goals is a back 5 unit issue. And we've been shipping goals al season, no matt the keeper.

Both goals tonight were not goalkeeping errors.

If you want both keepers held to the same standards go for it.

Birraz showed a distinct weakness in one area of his game, that opposing teams were starting to capitalise on, and it was costing us goals and points. Few of the goals we have "shipped" since the change have been from goalkeeping errors.

If birraz has worked on his aerial dominance of the space between his line and the defence, get him back, once BK starts constantly making an error that opposing teams capitalise on.

[Boss]

If only watched the first half but pepper and Kanta were ****ing terrible as per usual, absolutely diabolical. Can't control a ball or pass, it's that ****ed. Can't believe it's taking management this long to see. Again, they weren't the only shit ****s out there but **** me they were bad and the reason we get run over in midfield yet again. Barely a forward pass that went to a human being in a green shirt. Centre midfielders? Get ****ed.

[weston]

Perth... woooo **** yeh!!!! Top of the table.

All seriousness... Kew <3

Haven't even seen any of the highlights but whatever he did I hope it was worth it. Tinks can get farked.

[Retro Jet]

Perth... woooo **** yeh!!!! Top of the table.

All seriousness... Kew <3

Haven't even seen any of the highlights but whatever he did I hope it was worth it. Tinks can get farked.

Perf on top?...This League is shit.

[weston]

Perf on top?...This League is shit.

Haven't seen shit from the game. I'm drunk at a 21st. Pretty sure we were shit though. As usual.

[Pico]

Missed the game decided to have a good night at the pub instead, did we win, and by win I obviously mean did we not lose by 3 goals?

[Blackmac79]

I think I care too much.

[WolfMan]

I'm on the 2-0 tip, with Perth having the FFA Cup Final to think about a few days later, they'll rest Keogh at Half Time and we won't cop a hiding. They'll still do it at a canter (Kanta?) though

7/1. shame I only had a fiver on it

[hawk]

No confidence, disorganised, No belief and its no wonder all other aspects fall apart.

You can heap shit on the players ad nauseam but our biggest let down is stiil coaching & management and all actions they aer supposed to be doing to provide a competitive team.

From big cancer gut tinks who has left the club souless, amateur fkwit that calls himself a manager who cant be sacked quick enough, and a coaching staff that is under manned.

[furns]

Problem was purely a lack of creativity and poor passing. Can't blame Griffo, he was feeding on scraps all night.
Gallagher was going too far forward at every opportunity and usually when Neville was pushed forward also. If he isn't quick enough to get back and cover when possession is lost, he shouldn't push forward in the first place.
Really hope Coops regains match fitness quickly, because he needs to start when Flores doesn't.

[furns]

Oh and a midfield three of caravan, peppz and Kanta doesn't work. Any two of those with either Flores or Coops.

[lquiquer]

Phil Stubbins (:wacko:) is adament @NewcastleJetsFC are headed in the right direction - http://ffaus.co/1yGPdJ8 #PERvNEW

And what direction would that be? ...... Wooden spoon :thumbsup:

[hawk]

Just watching game. So Carney misses a close range shot, tells it how it is and now apparently is the worst in the world.

That'll do me. He is nowhere near the worst in our squad.

If it gets worse then more the chance changes will occur sooner. So I hope it gets way worse.

[Grimario]

Phil Stubbins (:wacko:) is adament @NewcastleJetsFC are headed in the right direction - http://ffaus.co/1yGPdJ8 #PERvNEW

And what direction would that be? ...... Wooden spoon :thumbsup:

Being misquoted. What he said was that when the team head back to Newcastle on their flight they will be heading in a direction that is right on the map.

[MFKS]

Mark ruden is going on about how Kew tackle is him saying he doesn't want to be there. Did he watch the same tackle

The tackle was a disgrace from a seasoned professional. Even if he got the ball he still would have put his studs through Jamieson legs and most likely still been sent

The bloke left his teammates high and dry for the last 10mins, let the coaches down, let the already suffering supporters down and sealed our fate last night.

For a bloke who has had a seasoned career it was pretty poor form and the perfect example of why he should never have been made captain. In times of trouble captains lead from the front inspiring their teammates.

Not ours. He is more interested in getting the first shower and his choice of seat on the bus


Sympathy for him is none **** him

[Beeen]

never a more surer result in world sport.

**** off tinks.

[plague]

Only saw highlights.
First goal seemed like poor communication from BK and defender. BK has to wear that one.
2nd goal phwooaaarrr, proper hit that.
Kews tackle was embarrassing. Sign of a bloke that didn't want to be there.
As for Harper, jeez Louise even if he's singling us out he's not exactly wrong is he?
We're ****ing horrid.

[plague]

By the way took the &1.70 on Perth. Chicken feed but ended up covering a few of the Hope estate pilsners I went through yesterday.

[Grimario]

First goal seemed like poor communication from BK and defender. BK has to wear that one.


How so? I'm no BK fanboi but that goal is hardly his fault. Neville only went for the ball because he had a player goal side who was miles offside, definitely influencing play. Robbed.

But we were shit and Perf were certainties regardless.

[The Dunster]

The tackle was a disgrace from a seasoned professional. Even if he got the ball he still would have put his studs through Jamieson legs and most likely still been sent

The bloke left his teammates high and dry for the last 10mins, let the coaches down, let the already suffering supporters down and sealed our fate last night.

For a bloke who has had a seasoned career it was pretty poor form and the perfect example of why he should never have been made captain. In times of trouble captains lead from the front inspiring their teammates.

Not ours. He is more interested in getting the first shower and his choice of seat on the bus


Sympathy for him is none **** him

Given that nobody had their season ended from the tackle there's not much evidence to support your conspiracy theory.

Last week you were critical of Montano and yet not a word about Griffo's performance last night.

The entire team is poor in one way or another and from what I'm seeing now the fans are getting just as poor / frustrated as well [myself included].

[MFKS]

Given that nobody had their season ended from the tackle there's not much evidence to support your conspiracy theory.

Last week you were critical of Montano and yet not a word about Griffo's performance last night.

The entire team is poor in one way or another and from what I'm seeing now the fans are getting just as poor / frustrated as well [myself included].
What shit you smoking??

Where was I critical of Montano last week??

Conspiracy theory?? WTF

Just cause no one had their leg broken/season ended there is no place for those type of tackles. What is even worse is those that try and justify tackles of these nature as not being that bad. You go to ground with force and lead with your studs then deal with the consequences.

[Jeterpool]

I decided to watch the match this morning because I was out last night and got through 50 odd minutes before I headed out. I saw something in the team during that time that makes me think there could perhaps be something in this side.
I thought caravella played ok. He did alright in the ball retention side of the playmaker but lacked any incision in forward passing.

I decided to watch how Perth moved the ball though midfield when compared to us. I we spread the pitch. Our wingers and defenders both hug the touch. Why? Perth seemed to tuck the wingers in a bit to create extra midfield bodies. Perth also play with one holder. We haven't done that since season 3 with musialik. Also Perth pass the ball and move it quickly. We regularly decide to take on players, dribbling it past 5 or 6 before thinking of laying it off. Quick ball movement will break teams down. We had a good little spell before the carney 1:1 because the ball was moved quickly.

Finally, our shape and coverage defensively is woeful. We need to piss Steele off already and use that spot for a proper left back.

Anyway, we had patches in the match. Not our worst performance by any stretch but still it's another loss and we have another two tough matches ahead. I'm betting we will write a new, unwanted, record win,Ess streak

[plague]

How so? I'm no BK fanboi but that goal is hardly his fault.

From the limited highlights I saw it looked like he half came out and that Neville then went across him. Got a bit stuck in no mans land once the rebound went to whatshisface.

I like BK and think he's the better keeper at the moment but I would have thought the same thing if Biraz was in goals. As I said it looked like a communication problem.

Happy to be corrected tho as I was pretty hungover this morn.

[The Dunster]

Perth player was offside and interfering with play. Had he not been there the ball would have been cleaned up by our defender,

[joel31]

I'm sick of Phil's we're on the right path, rosy bullshit

I'd rather if he was just honest with us and identified some of the areas of error publicly than telling us we're heading in the right direction when clearly we're not

[joel31]

Also he says the slight edge to possession is a positive.

Possession means nothing when you don't know what to do with it

Phil out

[MFKS]

I'm sick of Phil's we're on the right path, rosy bullshit

I'd rather if he was just honest with us and identified some of the areas of error publicly than telling us we're heading in the right direction when clearly we're not

We are heading in the right direction though.

Phil's HAL record is that weak a win will see his stats improve out of sight.

The funny thing with Stubbins is the only way is actually up with him so we may as well persist

[GazFish35]

His repeated "on the right path" statements are a little Groundhog Day joke I'm so glad he's slipping into press conferences.

Well played Punxatawney!

[Grimario]

Perth player was offside and interfering with play. Had he not been there the ball would have been cleaned up by our defender,

Had he not been there, Neville might have left the pass for BK to clean up.

[Grimario]

also he says the slight edge to possession is a positive.

Possession means nothing when you don't know what to do with it

phil out

gvev2

[pv4]

I decided to watch the match this morning because I was out last night and got through 50 odd minutes before I headed out. I saw something in the team during that time that makes me think there could perhaps be something in this side.
I thought caravella played ok. He did alright in the ball retention side of the playmaker but lacked any incision in forward passing.

I decided to watch how Perth moved the ball though midfield when compared to us. I we spread the pitch. Our wingers and defenders both hug the touch. Why? Perth seemed to tuck the wingers in a bit to create extra midfield bodies. Perth also play with one holder. We haven't done that since season 3 with musialik. Also Perth pass the ball and move it quickly. We regularly decide to take on players, dribbling it past 5 or 6 before thinking of laying it off. Quick ball movement will break teams down. We had a good little spell before the carney 1:1 because the ball was moved quickly.

Finally, our shape and coverage defensively is woeful. We need to piss Steele off already and use that spot for a proper left back.

Anyway, we had patches in the match. Not our worst performance by any stretch but still it's another loss and we have another two tough matches ahead. I'm betting we will write a new, unwanted, record win,Ess streak

I think that we dribble at players because we have slim options to pass to. You're right in the wingers hugging the touchline - I noticed it a lot in the recent F3 Derby. It was the most GVE-style game I remember us playing in a long time. Our team has a frustrating lack of mobility and I think interest whilst holding possession.

[joel31]

Also why Stubbin's persists with inverted wingers baffles me. Neither Carney nor Hoole is great at shooting. They are not being played the ball into great positions to cut inside or attack the half spaces. I can think of a few occasions where we had a chance for a cutback in or near the box but due to their onefootedness they cut onto their preferred foot and by that time the opportunity is gone

[joel31]

gvev2
I prefer us under GVE to this rubbish

[joel31]

The reason why are possession is useless and we can't create much is because we have 0 off the ball movement. We are very static. If Stubbins' has any tactical knowledge at all surely he would promote off the ball movement because that is how you break a team down.

[Grimario]

Inside forwards makes more sense if they shoot, agreed. It almost makes a bit of sense on the right as well as Neville is decent going forward. It's absolutely mind boggling on the left though, Gallagher gets forward often but is awful and doesn't have Gallaway's pace to get back.

It would work better if both Hoole and Carney weren't entirely one footed. Completely one dimensional, stop and cut inside. Meh. At least go around the player a few times and hit a cross.

[MFKS]

Inside forwards makes more sense if they shoot, agreed. It almost makes a bit of sense on the right as well as Neville is decent going forward. It's absolutely mind boggling on the left though, Gallagher gets forward often but is awful and doesn't have Gallaway's pace to get back.

It would work better if both Hoole and Carney weren't entirely one footed. Completely one dimensional, stop and cut inside. Meh. At least go around the player a few times and hit a cross.

One of the best example of inverted wingers Ribery and Robbins. Both primarily one footed but both go inside or outside unlike our pair who want to go inside everytime

[Grimario]

One of the best example of inverted wingers Ribery and Robbins. Both primarily one footed but both go inside or outside unlike our pair who want to go inside everytime

Yep. No one expects our lot to be half that good but ****s sake, if you do the same thing 100% of the time, you make the defenders job really easy.

For all the shit that a few on here give Awer Mabil, he takes people on and cuts back inside which immediately makes him a ****load better than our lot.

[joel31]

What do you guys think of Madaschi?
I know hes coming back from injury but I haven't been impressed with him in recent weeks

[joel31]

Also i reckon Jeronimo would be good on the wing, cutting it because he is a decent crosser and he can actually finish.

[lquiquer]

I prefer us under GVE to this rubbish

New thread: GVE IN..... :slap:

[lquiquer]

Also he says the slight edge to possession is a positive.

Possession means nothing when you don't know what to do with it

Phil out
We all know possession without penetration is masturbation

[Grimario]

We all know possession without penetration is masturbation

And talking is just masturbating without the mess.

[Tommyjet]

What do you guys think of Madaschi?
I know hes coming back from injury but I haven't been impressed with him in recent weeks

I think he'd be better with someone next to him who is younger and faster and that he can boss. Kew and madaschi clash because they are both trying to be the senior partner. Think back to easily our best cb partnership, topor and Ljubo. Ljubo was the bossy senior partner and topor the athletic guy who did what he was told.

All madaschi needs is someone like chapman

[hawk]

I prefer us under GVE to this rubbish

I know this is probs sarcasm but in case.....NEVER are we going there again. over.

[outsider]

Fark that was bad Kew...

Probably thought that he was at training

[pv4]

Probably thought that he was at training

Outsider - what is your interpretation of Perths first goal? Offside for you?

[Grimario]

I know this is probs sarcasm but in case.....NEVER are we going there again. over.

We can probably borrow and slightly alter the Perth motto this year to go with this sentiment.

#NEVERGVEIN

[parksey]

Agreed. While I don't think Stubbins is doing a good job I'm now starting to wonder if anyone could get this lot firing?

i think it's pretty clear that the reason this lot isn't firing is because they're being coached by a complete failure, whom has lost the confidence of every player in the squad.

[My2BobsWorth]

May as well go for the record now, or have we already got it.

[Mark325]

May as well go for the record now, or have we already got it.

Just gotta go 5 more rounds and we've done better then Heart last season

[hawk]

I think we have the mentality and coach to achieve it.

[MFKS]

I think we have the mentality and coach to achieve it.

I reckon we are that inept we won't even be able to do that.

We will choke and beat someone with the glory in sight

[borat]

I think that we dribble at players because we have slim options to pass to. You're right in the wingers hugging the touchline - I noticed it a lot in the recent F3 Derby. It was the most GVE-style game I remember us playing in a long time. Our team has a frustrating lack of mobility and I think interest whilst holding possession.

If you compare our play to just about any other team in the comp we are in slow motion. Ball movement, passing, dribbling everything. And I don't see it improving under Stubbins. I totally disagree about GVE style, there were plenty of games where our ball movement under GVE was the quickest it has ever been. It was the constant fear of losing possession and turning back that killed us under GVE, that and a stubbornly rigged formation.

I am all for letting a new manager have time to settle his team, but the mistakes Stubbins has made in recruitment have killed our season and doesn't leave me with any optimism that we can or will avoid the spoon.

[borat]

And the 1st Perth goal was as clear an example of influencing the play and offside that you will ever see.

[cobra23]

true, just realised it was not a good post... DELETED

[Jeterpool]

Jets v Glory Trivia:

1. How many penalties has Joel Griffiths scored for the Jets in his legendary career?

2. Who are the two players to have scored an own goal in this fixture?

3. Who was the first player booked in this fixture?

1. 5 penalties

2. Jamie Coyne and Andrew Durante

3. Ned Zelic