Squad Cleanout

[pv4]

Alright, so let's play a squad cleanout game. Imagine every single one of our players was off-contract at the end of the season, and we have a week to re-sign who we want, or tell those unwanted to find somewhere else to play. Who makes the cut from the current crop? Disregard the fact that Montano is on loan, or Caravella injury replacement, etc. If you could re-sign any player from the current squad, who would make your cut for next season? And if you are cleaning out players from the current squad, provide a little list as to who you'd like them replaced with (and attempt to be realistic in terms of wages/cap/marquees/etc). Note that this thread isn't an attempted "get rid of em all" etc - have a real go at it. Feel free to write reasoning next to each player. The (V) represents foreign player.

Josh Barresi
Mark Birighitti
Zenon Caravella
David Carney
Billy Celeski
Mitch Cooper
Marcos Flores (V)
Sam Gallagher
Sam Gallaway
Joel Griffiths
Andrew Hoole
Kew Jaliens (V)
Ben Kantarovski
Ben Kennedy
Brandon Lundy
Adrian Madaschi
Edson Montaño (V)
Jerónimo Neumann (V)
Scott Neville
Jacob Pepper
Taylor Regan
John Solari
Jonny Steele (V)
James Virgili
Allan Welsh

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges

[pv4]

Josh Barresi - keep
Mark Birighitti - keep
Zenon Caravella - cut
David Carney - keep
Billy Celeski - keep
Mitch Cooper - keep
Marcos Flores (V) - keep
Sam Gallagher - keep
Sam Gallaway - cut
Joel Griffiths - keep
Andrew Hoole - keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - keep
Ben Kantarovski - keep
Ben Kennedy - keep
Brandon Lundy - keep
Adrian Madaschi - keep
Edson Montaño (V) - keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - keep
Scott Neville - keep
Jacob Pepper - keep
Taylor Regan - keep
John Solari - cut
Jonny Steele (V) - cut
James Virgili - cut
Allan Welsh - keep

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - cut
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - keep (as assistant)
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - cut

[MFKS]

So your of the opinion that there are only 5 blokes in our squad holding us back from reaching our potential and one of them is the Yoof team Goalie???

**** me WLG Your are really stretching it to claim our playing group failures lay SOLELY at the hands of Solari Gallaway Virgili Roundabout and the absent Jonny Steele and replacing them would be all that is required

Looks like an elaborate plot to keep us shit forever to satisfy your Gypo loving fantasies

[pv4]

MFAW - note that I said cut 2/3 of the coaching staff.

I genuinely believe we have a squad capable of good things - if coached appropriately.

What does your list look like?

[Grimario]

Josh Barresi
Mark Birighitti
David Carney
Mitch Cooper
Marcos Flores (V)
Joel Griffiths
Andrew Hoole
Ben Kantarovski
Ben Kennedy
Brandon Lundy
Adrian Madaschi
Edson Montaño (V)
Scott Neville
Jacob Pepper
Taylor Regan
John Solari

Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane

[Frodo]

Josh Barresi - keep
Mark Birighitti - depends on how he acts for the rest of the season. If he disrupts the squad cut him.
Zenon Caravella - cut
David Carney - Either keep him and cut Jeronimo or vice versa
Billy Celeski - keep
Mitch Cooper - keep
Marcos Flores (V) - keep unless he can't find fitness.
Sam Gallagher - keep
Sam Gallaway - cut
Joel Griffiths - keep
Andrew Hoole - keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - keep
Ben Kantarovski - keep
Ben Kennedy - keep
Brandon Lundy - keep
Adrian Madaschi - keep
Edson Montaño (V) - keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - Either keep him and cut Carney or vice versa
Scott Neville - keep
Jacob Pepper - keep
Taylor Regan - keep
John Solari - keep - can't do any damage to the squad.
Jonny Steele (V) - i rate him so i'd love to see him stay but he would have to be cut given the current situation
James Virgili - cut
Allan Welsh - keep

So that's 4 cuts and potentially 3 more depending on how the season pans out.

[sammydog]

MFAW - note that I said cut 2/3 of the coaching staff.

I genuinely believe we have a squad capable of good things - if coached appropriately.

I agree with this. I think we have a squad with potential, but coaching staff that just aren't cutting it.

Who ever does the fitness/sports science stuff would also need to go.

[BodyNovo]

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coveny
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Covic
locals

coach; pappas
assistant; jones
gk coach; young.

[Bon]

Josh Barresi - Keep, had potential before injury the poor bloke..
Mark Birighitti - Not phased by this one, keep or sack..
Zenon Caravella - Keep, just so I can continue to get stuck in to Premy about being his doppleganger..
David Carney - Sack, on your bike ya lazy twat..
Billy Celeski - Keep
Mitch Cooper - Keep
Marcos Flores (V) - Keep (assuming can stay fit and injury free), good ambassador for the club off the pitch..
Sam Gallagher - Keep
Sam Gallaway - GallawAIDS can go..
Joel Griffiths - His name shouldn't even be on this list as it is a given that we keep him..
Andrew Hoole - Keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - Keep. I seriously don't understand the flack he has been copping.. I missed the Brisbane "game" though..
Ben Kantarovski - Keep
Ben Kennedy - What else do we have?
Brandon Lundy - Havent seen enough of, undecided..
Adrian Madaschi - Keep
Edson Montaño (V) - Keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - Keep
Scott Neville - Keep, love ya Nev
Jacob Pepper - Keep
Taylor Regan - Keep
John Solari - Keep
Jonny Steele (V) - SACK and take that cabbage smelling, small-hands Carney with you.
James Virgili - Sack
Allan Welsh - Keep

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - Sack
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - Keep
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - Keep for no reason other than giving pv4 something to blow up about..
Fitness Coach: Sack this prick and get the boys fvcking fit!!!!

[pv4]

As for players I'd like to see brought in, it would look something like:

- Scott Jamieson
- Alex Gersbach
- Connor Chapman
- Scott Galloway
- Isais (I'd take any of the Adelaide visa players tbh - although Carrsuca is too good for this league in general)

The sad thing is, as much as that list is potentially realistic, I can't see any of them with even the faintest hope of us getting them.

[Grimario]

That Chapman bloke was good on the weekend. Shame we can't get a player like him to our club.

Jaliens kept Nix onside for about 70% of their shots at goal. He's past it, would cut him without the slightest bit of sentiment and that's without even considering the abomination of a game he had at right back.

[Skirt Boy]

Josh Barresi=gone
Mark Birighitti=gone
Zenon Caravella=keep
David Carney=gone
Billy Celeski=keep
Mitch Cooper=keep
Marcos Flores (V)=keep
Sam Gallagher=gone
Sam Gallaway=gone
Joel Griffiths=gone
Andrew Hoole=gone
Kew Jaliens (V)keep
Ben Kantarovski=keep
Ben Kennedy=keep
Brandon Lundy=gone
Adrian Madaschi=keep
Edson Montaño (V)=keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V)=keep
Scott Neville=keep
Jacob Pepper=keep
Taylor Regan=keep
John Solari=gone
Jonny Steele (V)=gone
James Virgili =gone
Allan Welsh=gone

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins=gone
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane=gone
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges=promoted to manager.

[Grimario]

:banned2:

[Jeterpool]

Josh Barresi - Keep. We haven't seen what he can do yet.
Mark Birighitti - Keep. But we need a good coach to work with him. Not saying Youngy isn't, but not saying he is either
Zenon Caravella - release
David Carney - release
Billy Celeski - keep
Mitch Cooper - keep
Marcos Flores (V) - keep
Sam Gallagher - keep
Sam Gallaway - release
Joel Griffiths - keep
Andrew Hoole - keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - release
Ben Kantarovski - keep
Ben Kennedy - keep
Brandon Lundy - release
Adrian Madaschi - release
Edson Montaño (V) - keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - release unless we're going to play him up top in a front 2
Scott Neville - keep
Jacob Pepper - keep
Taylor Regan - keep
John Solari - release
Jonny Steele (V) - release
James Virgili - release
Allan Welsh - keep. I really think there is something about him and I think he can be a future Jets captain

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - release
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - release
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - release

[Mark325]

Josh Barresi - Keep (Haven't seen anything from him yet)
Mark Birighitti - Keep (Only if we can get a better coach then Young, if not get rid of him)
Zenon Caravella - Release
David Carney - Release (Assuming he continues to be a dick to the fans)
Billy Celeski - Keep
Mitch Cooper - Keep
Marcos Flores (V) - Keep
Sam Gallagher - Release
Sam Gallaway - Release
Joel Griffiths - Keep
Andrew Hoole - Keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - Release (Normally would say keep but lately he hasn't looked the same)
Ben Kantarovski - Keep
Ben Kennedy - Keep
Brandon Lundy - Keep
Adrian Madaschi - Keep
Edson Montaño (V) - Keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - Release
Scott Neville - Keep
Jacob Pepper - Keep
Taylor Regan - Keep (But god it really is only because he plays for the shirt because I do not rate him as a player)
John Solari - Release
Jonny Steele (V) - Release
James Virgili - Release
Allan Welsh - Keep

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - Release
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - Release
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - Release

I blame the fact that we have consistently had an incompetent coaching staff, not the other way around

[Jetmaster]

Does anyone not realise that the chances of Griff retiring at the end of this season are quite high, unless we have a big finish?

[Grimario]

Does anyone not realise that the chances of Griff retiring at the end of this season are quite high, unless we have a big finish?

Of course... but this is some fantasy shit about who we would cut and keep.

[Hunter403]

Josh Barresi - Keep
Mark Birighitti - Keep
Zenon Caravella - Release
David Carney - Keep
Billy Celeski - Keep
Mitch Cooper - Keep
Marcos Flores (V) - Keep
Sam Gallagher - Release
Sam Gallaway - Release
Joel Griffiths - Keep
Andrew Hoole - Keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - Release
Ben Kantarovski - Keep
Ben Kennedy - Keep
Brandon Lundy - Release
Adrian Madaschi - Keep
Edson Montaño (V) - Keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - Keep
Scott Neville - Keep
Jacob Pepper - Keep
Taylor Regan - Release
John Solari - Release
Jonny Steele (V) - Release
James Virgili - Release
Allan Welsh - Release

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - Release
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane -Keep (as assistant)
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - Release until he gets experience

[pv4]

Does anyone not realise that the chances of Griff retiring at the end of this season are quite high, unless we have a big finish?

All but one of us who has done their list in this thread prays that doesn't happen.

[leftrightout]

Everyone besides Jeterpool keeping Madaschi. Interesting, i think he has been horrible so far!
I do not rate him, but that is purely based on his performances for us only.

[380]

Everyone besides Jeterpool keeping Madaschi. Interesting, i think he has been horrible so far!
I do not rate him, but that is purely based on his performances for us only.

Agree. Good talker but got about as much mobility as Tarago had.


Seen B doubles turn around quicker.

[Nou Camp]

Everyone besides Jeterpool keeping Madaschi. Interesting, i think he has been horrible so far!
I do not rate him, but that is purely based on his performances for us only.

i agree
is good in the air but ive ships in the harbour turn quicker than him

[The Dunster]

Montaño, Neville and possibly Hoole are the only players in our squad that would be in demand from other clubs.
The rest are either too old, too injured, proven failures, or are merely squad quality easily replaced by others without the mental scarring this lot have been subjected to by poor management and coaching.

[Jeterpool]

Montaño, Neville and possibly Hoole are the only players in our squad that would be in demand from other clubs.
The rest are either too old, too injured, proven failures, or are merely squad quality easily replaced by others without the mental scarring this lot have been subjected to by poor management and coaching.

This I agree with. Is it a coincidence we have conceded 4 goals each time Neville has been out? He's one of the better right backs in the league. Hoole has the bit of "x-factor" around him. Pepper might pick up a gig somewhere because he has the Jordan Henderson run all day type about him.

We need more pace in our team. Last year Taggart created more space for our midfield because his pace forced teams to sit back further than they are last year. For the same reason it's why I'm letting madaschi go. We do however need a big bloke to go up against a Janko or Keogh type player but look at the mould of the A-League striker. They're average height, sort of strong but very quick and nippy. Having ships, to quote Nou Camp, at the back isn't going to help with that. I'm keeping Regan and Pepper for the squad - you need guys who can come on and fill a position.

[pv4]

Mother Theresa - both Jacob Pepper and James Virgili are 22 or 23 years old. Are you happy to classify that as "youth" still?

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Josh Barresi - Keep
Mark Birighitti - Keep (if he shows some effort to get back in the side)
Zenon Caravella - out
David Carney - Keep
Billy Celeski - Keep
Mitch Cooper - Keep
Marcos Flores (V) - Keep
Sam Gallagher - out
Sam Gallaway - out
Joel Griffiths - keep (if he doesnt retire)
Andrew Hoole - Keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - out
Ben Kantarovski - Keep
Ben Kennedy - keep
Brandon Lundy - Keep
Adrian Madaschi - out
Edson Montaño (V) - Keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - Keep
Scott Neville - Keep
Jacob Pepper - Keep
Taylor Regan - keep (newy boy)
John Solari - Keep
Jonny Steele (V) - out
James Virgili - out
Allan Welsh - keep (only young and may progress)

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - out
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane -keep
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - out

[MFKS]

Josh Barrels KEEP
Mark Birighitti KEEP
Zenon Caravella CENTRELINK
David Carney KEEP
Billy Celeski KEEP
Mitch Cooper KEEP
Marcos Flores (V) KEEP
Sam Gallagher CENTRELINK
Sam Galloway CENTRELINK
Joel Griffiths KEEP
Andrew Hole KEEP
Kew Jaliens (V) RELEASE
Ben Kantarovski CENTRELINK
Ben Kennedy CENTRELINK
Brandon Lundy KEEP
Adrian Malachi UNDECIDED
Edson Montaño (V) KEEP
Jerónimo Neumann (V) CENTRELINK
Scott Neville CENTRELINK
Jacob Pepper KEEP
Taylor Regan CENTRELINK
John Solari KEEP
Jonny Steele (V) CENTRELINK
James Virgil CENTRELINK
Allan Welsh UNDECIDED

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins CENTRELINK
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane KEEP
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges DEPORTED

COME AT ME

[plague]

Mark Birighitti - Keep
Joel Griffiths - out
Ben Kennedy - out


I think we need a arab owner, as my opinion, a lot need to be chopped.
9 senior players
6 youth
8 NEW specialised players- especially looking in defence, and 1 quality striker, and 1 quality keeper

and smarter fans it seems.....

You do realise that as a troll, your milkshake brings about 1% of the boys to the yard compared to the Member.

[Skirt Boy]

Joel Griffiths - out



Oi ****. **** off with the hating on the Griff. That's my job.

[Jeterpool]

Oi ****. **** off with the hating on the Griff. That's my job.

I believe that requires disciplinary action.

[WolfMan]

Josh Barresi - worth keeping around, haven't seen him aside from a youtube vid
Mark Birighitti - cut. Not worth the money we are paying him IMHO
Zenon Caravella - cut. Can't handle his negative play. I'm sure he's a lovely guy though
David Carney - still living off the goal against Ghana in a game that doesn't count. Cut
Billy Celeski - Like what I've seen in a Jets jersey, hope his injury isn't too serious
Mitch Cooper - very forward-thinking midfielder. Like the cut of his gib
Marcos Flores (V) - Classy, hope he doesn't spend more time on the physio's table than on the pitch though
Sam Gallagher - like his style, could be something decent with a good coaching team
Sam Gallaway - cut. Enough said
Joel Griffiths - One of the few who play with real heart.
Andrew Hoole - Hopefully he gets more starts, tearing it up
Kew Jaliens (V) - Solid as a rock
Ben Kantarovski - Seems to be coming into some form lately
Ben Kennedy - worthy local lad
Brandon Lundy - don't know, never seen him play
Adrian Madaschi - Forming a good partnership with Kew
Edson Montaño (V) - Undecided here. He holds the ball up well, and I'm sure he would be banging them away with half-decent service which we aren't providing. Worth a Visa spot? I'd say cut to be cautious
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - Hasn't looked a patch on his Adelaide form i=since he arrived. Perhaps that's why they deemed him surplus to requirements? Cut, free up another Visa spot
Scott Neville - Like his forward runs, and isn't too bad a defender
Jacob Pepper - Another who I'd like to see given more starts with Kanta in the middle
Taylor Regan - Keep, passionate beyond belief and a tireless worker. Could be very serviceable in a few positions
John Solari - Still don't know how he got a contract. Cut
Jonny Steele (V) - Cut. Talented but comes with excess baggage as it would seem
James Virgili - Cut Outside, oh wait that's his signature move. Get rid
Allan Welsh - Seems another good prospect, handy to have off the bench in the middle of the park

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - Cut. Have seen enough.
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - Keep. Have seen enough
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - Cut. Get him off the books already

[lquiquer]

Josh Barresi KEEP
Mark Birighitti RELEASE
Zenon Caravella RELEASE
David Carney RELEASE
Billy Celeski UNDECIDED
Mitch Cooper KEEP
Marcos Flores (V) KEEP
Sam Gallagher RELEASE
Sam Gallaway RELEASE
Joel Griffiths KEEP
Andrew Hoole KEEP
Kew Jaliens (V) KEEP
Ben Kantarovski RELEASE
Ben Kennedy RELEASE
Brandon Lundy UNDECIDED
Adrian Madaschi UNDECIDED
Edson Montaño (V) UNDECIDED
Jerónimo Neumann (V) RELEASE
Scott Neville KEEP
Jacob Pepper KEEP
Taylor Regan RELEASE
John Solari KEEP
Jonny Steele (V) RELEASE
James Virgili RELEASE
Allan Welsh UNDECIDED

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins RELEASE
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane RELEASE
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges 5 SAWYERS

[Premy]

Josh Barresi - cut
Mark Birighitt - cut
Zenon Caravella - cut
David Carney - keep
Billy Celeski - keep
Mitch Cooper - keep
Marcos Flores (V) - keep
Sam Gallagher - keep
Sam Gallaway - cut
Joel Griffiths - keep
Andrew Hoole - keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - keep
Ben Kantarovski - keep
Ben Kennedy - keep
Brandon Lundy - keep
Adrian Madaschi - keep
Edson Montaño (V) - keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - cut
Scott Neville - keep
Jacob Pepper - keep
Taylor Regan - keep
John Solari - cut
Jonny Steele (V) - cut
James Virgili - cut
Allan Welsh - keep

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - cut
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - keep (as assistant)
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - cut

8- players cut

Sign:
Mike Mulvey

Nick Cowburn
Michael Kantarovski
Danny Ireland
Richie Porta
James Holland (Aus Marquee and Captain)
Brad Smith (On Loan)

Starting IX:
---------------Kennedy-------------------
Neville---Kantarovski---Madaschi---Smith
---------Holland(C)---Celeski-------------
Hoole-----------Flores-------------Carney
-----------------Porta---------------------
Bench:
Ireland
Jaliens
Pepper
Montaño
Griffiths

[boz-monaut]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saKRZEMqdis

[Tommyjet]

Josh Barresi - worth keeping around, haven't seen him aside from a youtube vid
Mark Birighitti - cut. Not worth the money we are paying him IMHO
Zenon Caravella - cut. Can't handle his negative play. I'm sure he's a lovely guy though
David Carney - still living off the goal against Ghana in a game that doesn't count. Cut
Billy Celeski - Like what I've seen in a Jets jersey, hope his injury isn't too serious
Mitch Cooper - very forward-thinking midfielder. Like the cut of his gib
Marcos Flores (V) - Classy, hope he doesn't spend more time on the physio's table than on the pitch though
Sam Gallagher - like his style, could be something decent with a good coaching team
Sam Gallaway - cut. Enough said
Joel Griffiths - One of the few who play with real heart.
Andrew Hoole - Hopefully he gets more starts, tearing it up
Kew Jaliens (V) - Solid as a rock
Ben Kantarovski - Seems to be coming into some form lately
Ben Kennedy - worthy local lad
Brandon Lundy - don't know, never seen him play
Adrian Madaschi - Forming a good partnership with Kew
Edson Montaño (V) - Undecided here. He holds the ball up well, and I'm sure he would be banging them away with half-decent service which we aren't providing. Worth a Visa spot? I'd say cut to be cautious
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - Hasn't looked a patch on his Adelaide form i=since he arrived. Perhaps that's why they deemed him surplus to requirements? Cut, free up another Visa spot
Scott Neville - Like his forward runs, and isn't too bad a defender
Jacob Pepper - Another who I'd like to see given more starts with Kanta in the middle
Taylor Regan - Keep, passionate beyond belief and a tireless worker. Could be very serviceable in a few positions
John Solari - Still don't know how he got a contract. Cut
Jonny Steele (V) - Cut. Talented but comes with excess baggage as it would seem
James Virgili - Cut Outside, oh wait that's his signature move. Get rid
Allan Welsh - Seems another good prospect, handy to have off the bench in the middle of the park

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - Cut. Have seen enough.
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - Keep. Have seen enough
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - Cut. Get him off the books already

Can't be bothered so ill just agree with all this except kew. Unfortunately I get the feeling kew is gonna fade away quality wise this season and retire. I'd throw him a coaching position though. Buy a younger faster cb to partner madaschi.

[plague]

Joel Griffiths - keep
Ben Kennedy - keep

Thoughts this was the best post on the Foz all day.


Sign:
James Holland (Aus Marquee and Captain)

and then I saw this and it became the greatest post in the history of everything.

Bring him home Tinks.

[MFKS]

Got to love the people on here who have decided that the youngest kid in the squad Brandon Lundy despite not having played for the Jets in the HAL is not worthy of being kept on after this year.

Got to seriously question the IQ of people who wish to purge a young local kid who hasn't had his chance yet when most would have barely even seen him play



Over the last year his game has come on in leaps and bounds from what I have seen and we are gonna have an exciting local HAL player very soon to cheer on despite what some of you dimwits think

[Tommyjet]

Got to love the people on here who have decided that the youngest kid in the squad Brandon Lundy despite not having played for the Jets in the HAL is not worthy of being kept on after this year.

Got to seriously question the IQ of people who wish to purge a young local kid who hasn't had his chance yet when most would have barely even seen him play



Over the last year his game has come on in leaps and bounds from what I have seen and we are gonna have an exciting local HAL player very soon to cheer on despite what some of you dimwits think

I agree. The one thing jets management need to be doing is developing a core group of young players for the future. We have lost so many young players over the last few years that we end up with a squad with little understanding of each other. Obviously some wont make it but Lundy,cooper, cowburn, welsh, Michael kantarovski, pappas? And others are the sort of players that need to be here for 5-6 years to develop the nucleus of the squad. Then bring in the quality foreigners and occasionally returning socceroo to compliment the existing squad.

[steve136]

Josh Barresi - keep
Mark Birighitti keep
Zenon Caravella - releasre
David Carney - release
Billy Celeski - release
Mitch Cooper - keep
Marcos Flores (V) - release
Sam Gallagher - release
Sam Gallaway - release
Joel Griffiths - keep
Andrew Hoole - keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - release
Ben Kantarovski - keep
Ben Kennedy - keep
Brandon Lundy - release
Adrian Madaschi - release
Edson Montaño (V) - release
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - release
Scott Neville - keep
Jacob Pepper - keep
Taylor Regan - release
John Solari - release
Jonny Steele (V) -release
James Virgili - release
Allan Welsh - release

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - release
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - release
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - release

[pv4]

Everyone is doing well with the keep/cut but slim-to-no people have posted thoughts on realistic targets if we did replace however many we want to.

Any thoughts on who you'd bring in to replace the guys you've cut?

[Tommyjet]

Everyone is doing well with the keep/cut but slim-to-no people have posted thoughts on realistic targets if we did replace however many we want to.

Any thoughts on who you'd bring in to replace the guys you've cut?

Dylan murnane
Nigel boogaard (controversial I know)
Luke devere
Devante clut (love the name)
Scott macdonald
The rest : new set of foreigners, couple of returning Aussies abroad

[Grimario]

Everyone is doing well with the keep/cut but slim-to-no people have posted thoughts on realistic targets if we did replace however many we want to.

Any thoughts on who you'd bring in to replace the guys you've cut?

Basket case club. Only realistic signings are NPL players.

[Mark325]

Everyone is doing well with the keep/cut but slim-to-no people have posted thoughts on realistic targets if we did replace however many we want to.

Any thoughts on who you'd bring in to replace the guys you've cut?

In terms of foreigners, I would rather we search too find players like Berisha, Broich, Finkler and Carussca. In the confines of my squad I have two foreigners, so sign 3 foreigners (1 LB, a DM/CM and another striker). In terms of other players, we normally sign pretty solid youth players so target some of the better guys in that area, guys like Kale, Brendan Cholakian is a beast young player and maybe 1 other. Look for a big aussie marquee to round out the squad then I'd say

[plague]

plague
i didnt know you were so adverse to rnb.
maybe the 1% milkshake is what you like from boys
read your own posts before refering anyone else as a troll you goose

yeah cool cool.
nah really that makes no real sense.
besides, i thought anyone would take it as a compliment to come second to the good Member.
guess I wont be so generous with my compliments in future.
good day.

[pv4]

In terms of foreigners, I would rather we search too find players like Berisha, Broich, Finkler and Carussca.

Where do you find these guys though?

[Captain Obvious]

Where do you find these guys though?

overseas.

[Mark325]

Where do you find these guys though?

Same way they were found too come over here, people within the club do their research and do some scouting all across the globe to find the players we need

[hawk]

yeah cool cool.
nah really that makes no real sense.
besides, i thought anyone would take it as a compliment to come second to the good Member.
guess I wont be so generous with my compliments in future.
good day.

lulz

http://i.qkme.me/3r01rw.jpg

[cobra23]

overseas.

:lulz:

[pv4]

Same way they were found too come over here, people within the club do their research and do some scouting all across the globe to find the players we need

That would mean we need the right people doing the research.

Brisbane had Rado, who talked to Dario, about Broich and Berisha.
Josep had worked with Carrusca before (I think?).
Not entirely sure Finkler's story.

But it seems to mostly come down to the links the coach has as to whether the visa players pay off or not.

I would have thought Stubbins would have seen, and been able to negotiate for, some decent players from Thailand. I know he tried with Paartalu, but I would have figured he would have had a bigger list than that. Not sure where the Montano link came from, but Steele was obviously a Carney and Cahill recommendation.

So after taking that into consideration, what coach would you put in charge to then get these players like Broich, Berisha, etc?

[Mark325]

So after taking that into consideration, what coach would you put in charge to then get these players like Broich, Berisha, etc?

The obvious coach is Mike Mulvey, outside of that though I couldn't tell you.

However, I look at leagues like the MLS, and I see pacey as **** CB/LB/RB's like Wynne, Opara, Beasley and Yedlin who are all at least in my opinion guys who would be staying at level playing field in terms of their career if they were to come over to the a-league who could tear up. I look at Wynne, who is quick like you wouldn't believe, and you match him up with Madaschi who is solid, and that is a good connection in theory.
You look to places like the Ivory Coast, a bunch of talented players, and again quick players which is something the jets sorely lack and I believe some of those players wouldn't look out of place in the a-league. It really is just a matter of having guys travel overseas in the off-season and doing some recruitment which is mixed in, at least too me with finding a good aus marquee like a James Holland and getting some of the best young talent and honing their skills like a Kale Bradbery

[Premy]

James Holland he goes alright
There is this aussie playing in Austria think his name is James Holland
What about that James Holland bloke that use to play with us
Maybe James Holland would be a good Aus Marque
We need some Midfield steel how about James Holland
Oh and don't forget James Holland

[My2BobsWorth]

I would be surprised if Kew even sees this season out, and Bridgey will be promoted to head coach and become Bridgey the white.

[goaliepersempre]

Where do you find these guys though?

employ me over here :)

[Grimario]

I would be surprised if Kew even sees this season out, and Bridgey will be promoted to head coach and become Bridgey the white.

Well, it at least rhymes with white.

[MFKS]

Well, it at least rhymes with white.

Also rhymes with Bridgey is shite

[Grimario]

Also rhymes with Bridgey is shite

Think you forgot to log into Captain Oblivious, member.

[joel31]

Same way they were found too come over here, people within the club do their research and do some scouting all across the globe to find the players we need
I don't think you realise that all club doesn't have a scouting network

[Mark325]

I don't think you realise that all club doesn't have a scouting network

The first part of what I said is still relevant, maybe not all of the second part. In some way these relatively unknown foreigners made their way over here through people within the club. How well we do talent scouting wise in overseas markets is fully dependent on the dream coach we get in this scenario. I named mulvey but I also don't really know any coaches that are or aren't available that make sense so I went with the simple pick. Again, it's a similar situation though where the club does research too find the best guy possible

[Premy]

The first part of what I said is still relevant, maybe not all of the second part. In some way these relatively unknown foreigners made their way over here through people within the club. How well we do talent scouting wise in overseas markets is fully dependent on the dream coach we get in this scenario. I named mulvey but I also don't really know any coaches that are or aren't available that make sense so I went with the simple pick. Again, it's a similar situation though where the club does research too find the best guy possible
Actually of the blokes you mentioned.
Brioch, fell into the wrong crowd in Germany and got in some strife off the field. His agent suggested a new start away from Germany and Europe and began to shop him out. He fell on Brisbanes door step.

Berisha, played along side of Dario Vidosic and was recommended to Rado by Dario, hardly a scouting network.

Finkler, was recommended by Fernando Rech to give the A-League a go Finklers agent then reached out to Victory.

Carrusca, of the lot he was one that seems Adelaide found him, he was hardly an unknown but having played for Galatasary and Estudiantes.

[pv4]

I was under the impression Broich had played with, and was recommended by, Dario too. But I was wrong.

Fernando Rech - haven't heard that name in ages! Good to know that former HAL players are still keeping the network up.

[Skirt Boy]

Everyone is doing well with the keep/cut but slim-to-no people have posted thoughts on realistic targets if we did replace however many we want to.

Any thoughts on who you'd bring in to replace the guys you've cut?

Bring Jobe back other then that anybody we bring has got to be better then the lot we currently have.

[goaliepersempre]

Broich and Dario where team mates...

i dont know if you have but there is a really good movie made about thomas... It is really good to gain an insight on the man....

never really bad crowd he basically was too smart for his own good... plus injuries...

[Premy]

Broich and Dario where team mates...

i dont know if you have but there is a really good movie made about thomas... It is really good to gain an insight on the man....

never really bad crowd he basically was too smart for his own good... plus injuries...What's it called? Is it in German or English?

I remember reading a while back that Australia was fresh start and chance to get away from his troubles back home.

[goaliepersempre]

Tom meets Zizou

http://www.tommeetszizou.com/en/index.htmlhttp://

yeah it has english and german, i cant remember exactly..

but yeah like you said it was to get away from the football world in the bundesliga.

[Premy]

Cheers

[WolfMan]

What's it called? Is it in German or English?

I remember reading a while back that Australia was fresh start and chance to get away from his troubles back home.

Tom meets zizou

EDIT: too slow

[joel31]

Josh Barresi - keep
Mark Birighitti - keep
Zenon Caravella - cut
David Carney - cut
Billy Celeski - keep
Mitch Cooper - keep
Marcos Flores (V) - cut
Sam Gallagher - cut
Sam Gallaway - cut
Joel Griffiths -keep
Andrew Hoole - keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - keep
Ben Kantarovski - keep
Ben Kennedy - keep
Brandon Lundy - keep
Adrian Madaschi - cut unless he improves
Edson Montaño (V) - keep
Jerónimo Neumann (V) - keep
Scott Neville - keep
Jacob Pepper - keep
Taylor Regan - cut
John Solari - cut
Jonny Steele (V) - cut
James Virgili -cut
Allan Welsh - cut

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - cut
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane -keep
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - cut

[joel31]

I don't think the players, coaches, management staff and office staff realise that we are the ones that keep them in a job. If the fans stopped turning up the club would be folded and all working at the club would have a very hard time to find an A-League club to work at again

[Premy]

Tom meets zizou

EDIT: too slow

Cheers anyway, just to show I carry no grudges and we can move on.

[Mark325]

2nd go round;
Josh Barresi - keep (Haven't seen anything from him)
Mark Birighitti - Release (Wants too leave, let him)
Zenon Caravella - Release
David Carney - Keep (Can do good stuff, probably put too much hate on him honestly)
Billy Celeski - Keep
Mitch Cooper - Keep
Marcos Flores (V) - Release (Would love too keep him but I feel our visa spot can be used better elsewhere)
Sam Gallagher - Release
Sam Gallaway - Release
Joel Griffiths - Release
Andrew Hoole - Keep
Kew Jaliens (V) - Release (Doesn't offer what he used too)
Ben Kantarovski - Keep
Ben Kennedy - Keep (Only as second keeper though, sign someone significantly better)
Brandon Lundy - Keep
Adrian Madaschi - Keep (With a good, fast, young CB paired with him we could have a solid CB pairing)
Edson Montaño (V) - Keep (Has skill, just can't fully show because of shitty service and terrible playing style)
Jerónimo Neumann (V) Keep (Showed today, he has so much talent and we aren't letting him show it)
Scott Neville - Keep
Jacob Pepper - Keep
Taylor Regan - Keep
John Solari - Release
Jonny Steele (V) - Release
James Virgili - Release
Allan Welsh - Release

Head Coach: Phil Stubbins - Release
Assistant Coach: Clayton Zane - Release
Assistant Coach: Michael Bridges - Release

[Thomas477]

This is assuming Montano would want to come back, yeah? He's only on a loan remember.

[steve136]

Release - Robbie Middleby and Phil Stubbins. Nothing else matters until this is done.

[hawk]

January transfer window in 1 day.

So lets sit back a watch nothing happen :shock:

[MFKS]

As if any self respecting player would want to play for a shit coach like Stubbins??

Career suicide

[GazFish35]

Stubbins really is out of his depth.

I say get a ford focus from klosters and fill it, 3 in the boot, drive them all done to Sydney and drop at Apia, let em play state league.

[The Dunster]

We are a work in progress and we are building for the future.

[pv4]

January transfer window in 1 day.

So lets sit back a watch nothing happen :shock:

I thought the transfer window started Jan 5. Could be wrong.

[pv4]

Is anyone of the belief that we need a new CB?

Judging from preseason and his time before us, I was a big fan of Madaschi. But I'm not as confident on him anymore. He seems to never, ever want the ball. He'll pass it and get furious, and seemingly scared, if/when he gets it back. To be fair against my argument, him and Welsh played passybacks A LOT last night v City. But I'm just not as confident on Madaschi now, as I was before.

And I've heard a few people now say that they think Madaschi and Kew don't work well together.

Regan I still feel is not up to it.

Do we need a new CB?

What is Josh Mitchell ( :wub: ) up to?

[q-money]

they all stink

[Thomas477]

Get Ljubo back. Or failing that, I hear Lucash Neill is a free agent,

[Tommyjet]

Is anyone of the belief that we need a new CB?

Judging from preseason and his time before us, I was a big fan of Madaschi. But I'm not as confident on him anymore. He seems to never, ever want the ball. He'll pass it and get furious, and seemingly scared, if/when he gets it back. To be fair against my argument, him and Welsh played passybacks A LOT last night v City. But I'm just not as confident on Madaschi now, as I was before.

And I've heard a few people now say that they think Madaschi and Kew don't work well together.

Regan I still feel is not up to it.

Do we need a new CB?

What is Josh Mitchell ( :wub: ) up to?

I was very happy when we signed madaschi too. Even tho it was brief, his time at heart before taking off to Japan was impressive.
Mobility wise and command-wise kew and madaschi simply don't work. When trying to explain this to people, I tell them about the Ljubo and topors partnership, arguably the best we have had. Ljubo, the commanding, vocal leader and topor, the obedient, athletic mobile partner.
Kew and madaschi are both the less mobile leader and IMO clash style wise. There is talk about Daniel Mullen signing with us. If this is true than stick him next to either of kew or madaschi and see what happens. Welsh is also another option to stay there next to kew.
Regs is like bk and virgili for me. Looks the goods for 2 or 3 games when they first get put in each season but then the cracks start to appear and the consistency is simply not there. Will it ever be? That's the big question with a lot of our local players it seems unfortunately.

[joel31]

Get Ljubo back. Or failing that, I hear Lucash Neill is a free agent,
Neill as player / coach

[MFKS]

Is anyone of the belief that we need a new CB?

Judging from preseason and his time before us, I was a big fan of Madaschi. But I'm not as confident on him anymore. He seems to never, ever want the ball. He'll pass it and get furious, and seemingly scared, if/when he gets it back. To be fair against my argument, him and Welsh played passybacks A LOT last night v City. But I'm just not as confident on Madaschi now, as I was before.

And I've heard a few people now say that they think Madaschi and Kew don't work well together.

Regan I still feel is not up to it.

Do we need a new CB?

What is Josh Mitchell ( :wub: ) up to?

We need some CM's more than anything else

Only a clown would think Kanta and Roundabout will win games regularly at HAL level

[GazFish35]

Neill as player / coach

Never. Ever. Ever.

[Premy]

We need some CM's more than anything else

Only a clown would think Kanta and Roundabout will win games regularly at HAL level

Hammer, Nailhead hit it.

Edit: I still have faith that Kanta will produce the goods if given the right midfield partner. Is that Celiski? I'm not sure.
Whilst he hasn't been great I feel most of it has come down to having to do to much.

[Premy]

Kanta is class in winning the ball and playing the simple pass.
His game is let down when he tries to force a pass or creating an attacking opportunity. You watch his game when he has time on the ball he forces a pass that is not on by either playing to someone in traffic or looking for the cross field Hollywood ball which looks great when it comes of but only finds its target one in ten times.

He needs to work on his decision making even when he has time he seems to look rushed. I only hope someone around him has pointed it out to him so he can work on it, you know a intellectual person employed by the club to improve the players performance, just not sure we have one of those.

[Tommyjet]

Kanta is class in winning the ball and playing the simple pass.
His game is let down when he tries to force a pass or creating an attacking opportunity. You watch his game when he has time on the ball he forces a pass that is not on by either playing to someone in traffic or looking for the cross field Hollywood ball which looks great when it comes of but only finds its target one in ten times.

He needs to work on his decision making even when he has time he seems to look rushed. I only hope someone around him has pointed it out to him so he can work on it, you know a intellectual person employed by the club to improve the players performance, just not sure we have one of those.


Hammer, nail, hit it.

We need a mercurial midfielder like a skoko who can pull the strings and allow kanta to just focus on running around tackling people. Kanta has done pretty good this season at nullifying the effects of finkler and carrusca in the games we have played against them. Caravella simply lacks class, positional awareness and any resemblance of a passing game unless it is headed backwards. I'm not sure celeski is the answer and I reckon pepper is a better option than the muppet currently lining up next to kanta.

[belchardo]

alright, which one of you is Tinkler?

[lquiquer]

Be prepared to sell your jets shirts, and invest in a new club for next year, like all Newcastle sporting teams in the past- this is exactly how it transpired before they closed for ever.
doom and gloom- is now evident.

You CANT Sell Jets shirts......you can only give them away

[Jetmaster]

your right- however
get Griff to sign each shirt and MFKS will buy the lot-

Then he can't resell - each one would be spunked over.

[My2BobsWorth]

Then he can't resell - each one would be spunked over.

Then Q would buy the lot.

[q-money]

hey what i do in my bedroom is my business pal

[hawk]

You CANT Sell Jets shirts......you can only give them away


your right- however
get Griff to sign each shirt and MFKS will buy the lot-


Then he can't resell - each one would be spunked over.


Then Q would buy the lot.

another champagne moment.

foz>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>home game

[Grimario]

Virgili has just signed a new 3 year contract.

sauce: he is out for the rest of the season injured so long term contract is guaranteed.

[JetsFan23]

Wouldn't be surprised if there's no injury and he's been told to look for a club in China. No goals in 55+ games for a forward, just not up to it, though either are current management. Ahhh the life of a Jets fan

[Jeterpool]

Bump.

Makes for some interesting reading given the current circumstances

[Blackmac79]

hahahaha

[Premy]

:bump:

Ok so thought I would spark this up again.

Realistic signing I would like to see.
Richard Porta
Brad Smith
Kale Bradbury

New signings if Tinks splashed a bit of cash or we get a new rich owner.
Estaban Cambiaso
James Holland

[Hunter403]

:bump:

Ok so thought I would spark this up again.

Realistic signing I would like to see.
Richard Porta
Brad Smith
Kale Bradbury

New signings if Tinks splashed a bit of cash or we get a new rich owner.
Estaban Cambiaso
James Holland

Nah, none of them would play for us unless a shed load of money was thrown about and we all know that Tinkler isn't about to do that.

[Premy]

Nah, none of them would play for us unless a shed load of money was thrown about and we all know that Tinkler isn't about to do that.

I think Porta, Smith and Bradbury would be relatively cheap.
Porta, 32 chance to finish his career in Aus wouldn't demand to much coin, I wouldn't imagine his on big dollars in Ecuador so the wage may not be to dissimilar.
Smith, chance for regular 1st team football, could possibly get a loan deal.
Bradbury, park football or a professional contract?

As to Cambiaso and Holland yes I agree they would demand marquee wages.

[parksey]

doesn't matter who we sign as long as we have the coach we do

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

doesn't matter who we sign as long as we have the coach we do

This

[Grimario]

doesn't matter who we sign as long as we have the coach we do

Agreed.

Should sign Chipperfield as our next boss. At least he knows how to park a bus.

[Nou Camp]

Agreed.

Should sign Chipperfield as our next boss. At least he knows how to park a bus.

I would take a coach whos only experience is playing fifa, championship or football manager

[Grimario]

I would take a coach whos only experience is playing fifa, championship or football manager

I've played Football Manager at the highest levels... where do I apply?

Full disclosure... I am pretty shit at FIFA.

[De-Champ]

I have a coaches licence fully accredited by the FFA.
I have driven the players around on many occasions.

[joel31]

I won the World Cup with Australia on FM. I think I win

[Grimario]

I won the World Cup with Australia on FM. I think I win

I did it with San Marino. In your face.

And you rated our squad as the best in the league with Biraz, Neville, Steele, Carney, Madaschi and a bunch of others I am forgetting as amazing Europe level superstars.

[Nou Camp]

I took Plymouth from div 3 to the treble
and 17 straight la ligas with barca (before there was messi and Ronaldinho)
ahhh might have to fire up the old CM when I get home
I think Phil should start playing

[Mark325]

I'd say sign
Scott McDonald
Richard Porta
Danny Ireland
Kale Bradbery
Brendan Cholokian
Massimo Murdocca
Cam Watson
Unlikely but Pablo Sanchez

[joel31]

I did it with San Marino. In your face.

And you rated our squad as the best in the league with Biraz, Neville, Steele, Carney, Madaschi and a bunch of others I am forgetting as amazing Europe level superstars.
Wow
Screenshot?
How many years did that take?

[Premy]

I'd say sign
Scott McDonald
Richard Porta
Danny Ireland
Kale Bradbery
Brendan Cholokian
Massimo Murdocca
Cam Watson
Unlikely but Pablo Sanchez
Finally someone who adds some context to the discussion.

Murdocca and Watson, I wouldn't mind if at the right price, A-League quality and would add depth.
Cholakian, haven't seen any youth league for some time. How's his form?
Ireland and Bradbury, I agree wouldn't brake the bank and good squadies.
Porta, HELLS YES
McDonald, nah pass I think his well pass his best.
Sanchez, Didn't he just sign an extension with Adelaide? Although I would take in a heartbeat.

[Mark325]

Finally someone who adds some context to the discussion.

Murdocca and Watson, I wouldn't mind if at the right price, A-League quality and would add depth.
Cholakian, haven't seen any youth league for some time. How's his form?
Ireland and Bradbury, I agree wouldn't brake the bank and good squadies.
Porta, HELLS YES
McDonald, nah pass I think his well pass his best.
Sanchez, Didn't he just sign an extension with Adelaide? Although I would take in a heartbeat.

Cholokian seems to be in good form, I put him in the same category as Bradbery and Ireland. Wouldn't break bank and a better squad player with more potential then some of our lot
Personally think McDonald at CAM has seen him revitalised a bit which is why I choose him
From what I've gathered him and the dude they grabbed recently from Real both haven't sign extensions so I'd be on that quick.

[Mark325]

So for me my overall squad would be

Birraz
Neville
Regan
Kanta
Josh Barresi
Jason Pepper
Mitch Cooper
Ben Kennedy
Daniel Mullen
Lee Ki Je
Brandon Lundy
Radivan
Boogard
Enver (Serbian guy we're signing)
Scott McDonald
Richard Porta
Bradbery
Ireland
Cholokian
Watson
Murdocca
Pablo Sanchez

That puts us at the 22 so sign up another foreigner to hit the limit

[MFKS]

Think you are missing a couple

Virgili Sam Gallagher and Cowburn are dead certainties to get new contracts

[Premy]

With the uncertainty surrounding Phoenix and them only being able to offer players a contract until the end of next season how long will it be until other clubs start picking the carcass.

Personally I want us to try to get Burns & Reira.
Dangle the carrot of a 3 year deal in front of them to secure their future and think we could be half a chance to secure them.

[belchardo]

With the uncertainty surrounding Phoenix and them only being able to offer players a contract until the end of next season how long will it be until other clubs start picking the carcass.

Personally I want us to try to get Burns & Reira.
Dangle the carrot of a 3 year deal in front of them to secure their future and think we could be half a chance to secure them.

what's the uncertainty?

[Maito Mitch]

God I hope we don't sign Burns. I don't want to see his career ruined, he's just coming good

[Premy]

what's the uncertainty?

Phoenix only have an A-League license until the end of the 2015-16 season. FFA need AFC and FIFA approval to renew it and a decision doesn't look any closer to being made.

[westjet]

Phoenix only have an A-League license until the end of the 2015-16 season. FFA need AFC and FIFA approval to renew it and a decision doesn't look any closer to being made.

Dont think there is any real uncertainty. Pretty sure they just extended Merricks contract by 3 years.

[Premy]

Dont think there is any real uncertainty. Pretty sure they just extended Merricks contract by 3 years.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/clock-ticking-phoenix-says-league-boss

If that's not uncertainty then I don't know what is.

[westjet]

Both parties saying it will be sorted and then talking about a possible relocation in the future. Not signed off but sounds as though there is going to be no issue with them staying.

[Premy]

Both parties saying it will be sorted and then talking about a possible relocation in the future. Not signed off but sounds as though there is going to be no issue with them staying.

Thing is it's not up to FFA or NZF.
Blatter is hardly in any position to step on AFC toes with the election coming up, if Wellington qualify for the ACL that will ruffle even more feathers at the AFC. This is far from as simple as you think and has politics written all over it.

[Thomas477]

Thing is it's not up to FFA or NZF.
Blatter is hardly in any position to step on AFC toes with the election coming up, if Wellington qualify for the ACL that will ruffle even more feathers at the AFC. This is far from as simple as you think and has politics written all over it.

They can't qualify for the champions league, premy. They actually did a few years back, but they're not allowed to because they're an ofc club playing in afc. Same thing if they win the FFA cup, they don't qualify.