jerks v heart 2.0

[BodyNovo]

"furns rubbish followed by jeterpools cool shit here"

no ****ing idea why this is on at 5pm on a non public holiday at 5pm

unlucky like some peasants i only got the public holidays off and work 8-5

surely playing the game at 7.30 would have been more suited.

city starting to play some decent football, will probably jag it knowing us but.

[Tommyjet]

Crowd figure will be interesting. How many have gone away? How many are working? How many staying at home to watch the cricket?
Optimistic jerks 2-1, mooy stunner followed by a remarkable own goal by chapman and then a very dodgy penalty converted by monty. Extremely dour contest otherwise.

[plague]

Doomed.
Cricket score again.
As you were.

[pv4]

"furns rubbish followed by jeterpools cool shit here"

no ****ing idea why this is on at 5pm on a non public holiday at 5pm

unlucky like some peasants i only got the public holidays off and work 8-5

surely playing the game at 7.30 would have been more suited.

city starting to play some decent football, will probably jag it knowing us but.

Are you coming to games again?

Agree the timing is off for a non public holiday. On a public holiday or weekend, leaving home at 3:30-4:30 for a 5 game is fine. On a working day, it creates all kinds of hassle.

Like Tommyjet said - the crowd figure will be very interesting. I'm anticipating 5k - I have no idea if that would be considered optimistic or pessimistic.

[BodyNovo]

Are you coming to games again?

Agree the timing is off for a non public holiday. On a public holiday or weekend, leaving home at 3:30-4:30 for a 5 game is fine. On a working day, it creates all kinds of hassle.

Like Tommyjet said - the crowd figure will be very interesting. I'm anticipating 5k - I have no idea if that would be considered optimistic or pessimistic.

na not coming but just pointing out for the working plebs.

[steve136]

We will play rubbish defensive football and concede a goal that some will argue was BK's fault in the 89th minute to lose 0-1.

[Superdylan]

"furns rubbish followed by jeterpools cool shit here"

no ****ing idea why this is on at 5pm on a non public holiday at 5pm

unlucky like some peasants i only got the public holidays off and work 8-5

surely playing the game at 7.30 would have been more suited.

city starting to play some decent football, will probably jag it knowing us but.

Because not everyone works Monday-friday bodedawg. 5pm games are better anyways, earlier start for the day more time to enjoy a couple drinks afterwards. I myself have to work Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night & Saturday night this week (yep missing the gong away).

Looking forward to this one, Our record against the heart at home hasnt been too bad in recent seasons so I'm thinking we can get a 1 or 2-0 win here.

[A.J.]

Are you coming to games again?

Agree the timing is off for a non public holiday. On a public holiday or weekend, leaving home at 3:30-4:30 for a 5 game is fine. On a working day, it creates all kinds of hassle.

Like Tommyjet said - the crowd figure will be very interesting. I'm anticipating 5k - I have no idea if that would be considered optimistic or pessimistic.

Yeah it's kind of frustrating, I'm lucky enough to have slightly flexible working hours (and be walking distance to the stadium) but I'll have to start at 6:30am tomorrow to give myself enough time to get there for kick off. I think 5k sounds about right

[Thomas477]

Wonder if Middleby will blame the poor crowds on the timing (which I'm sure he would have a say in) or results (he signed Stubbs)? Either way, we won't reach 5 figures in crowd.

Looking forward to watching Mooy, Koran and Duff play.

[GazFish35]

Wonder if Middleby will blame the poor crowds on the timing (which I'm sure he would have a say in) or results (he signed Stubbs)? Either way, we won't reach 5 figures in crowd.

Looking forward to watching Mooy, Koran and Duff play.


You reckon a club CEO has any sway over fox scheduling, for a midweek fixture?

[MFKS]

You reckon a club CEO has any sway over fox scheduling, for a midweek fixture?

He has no sway over anything.

That's the problem.

The bloke can't influence anything

[plague]

Wonder if Middleby will blame the poor crowds on the timing (which I'm sure he would have a say in) or results (he signed Stubbs)? Either way, we won't reach 5 figures in crowd.

Looking forward to watching Mooy, Koran and Duff play.

This is an all time record for you.
Most 'straws clutched at' in one day.

Congrats.

[Thomas477]

He has no sway over anything.

That's the problem.

The bloke can't influence anything

:thumbsup:

Nail on the head here. I'm sure all the clubs were consulted at the start of the season and asked what your preferred day and times were (why we got so many sunday games in the past). A competent ceo would have requested that the game get pushed back by an hour or two. Given this isn't a catchup game, Middleby would've seen it months ago. You reckon Pignata would cop this?

But it doesn't matter either way, we won't reach 10,000 and we'll lose. Middleby will make another plea and/or an apology for fans to stick with this abomination of a "club". How we're not last is beyond me.

Plague: What straws am I clutching here? With a likely poor atttendence tomorrow, I was wondering what Robbie would say the cause is. All clubs receive a draft draw early before its finalised, so why couldn't Robbie request the game to be played later? And Robbie did sign Stubbs, didn't he?

[pv4]

What I will give Thomas is surely some heads should have been raised when the BR game is getting shown at 8pm, and it isn't uncommon for HAL games to be exactly 2 hours apart. There's no reason, on the outlook, that our game couldn't have kicked off at 6 rather than 5.

Regardless of what has been done so far, I'll be surprised if the FFA don't learn their lesson when they see a poor turnout for it.

[plague]

You reckon Pignata would cop this?


The same Pignata who's club has been booted from their stadium for 7 weeks and now has to play at Woolongong?

Yeah, I'd say he would have copped it.

[GazFish35]

:thumbsup:

Nail on the head here. I'm sure all the clubs were consulted at the start of the season and asked what your preferred day and times were (why we got so many sunday games in the past). A competent ceo would have requested that the game get pushed back by an hour or two. Given this isn't a catchup game, Middleby would've seen it months ago. You reckon Pignata would cop this?

But it doesn't matter either way, we won't reach 10,000 and we'll lose. Middleby will make another plea and/or an apology for fans to stick with this abomination of a "club". How we're not last is beyond me.

Plague: What straws am I clutching here? With a likely poor atttendence tomorrow, I was wondering what Robbie would say the cause is. All clubs receive a draft draw early before its finalised, so why couldn't Robbie request the game to be played later? And Robbie did sign Stubbs, didn't he?

It's the blind assumption that he didn't.
The Brisbane v sydney game will get better ratings, so it gets the prime spot.
If our game kicks off at 6 fox potentially lose audience they don't get back when everyone switches over to ch10 at 7pm for the cricket. So they run our game at 5, santo for 1hr and then get the game between town capital city teams on at 8.

The jets have been chasing family friendly kickoff times for many years. And given the shit dished up on the field and the crowds we are still getting an argument could be made that it is working.

Granted a 6 kickoff means blokes at work can get to the game more readily..... but 5pm while the kids are on holidays, and a lot of workplaces are still closed down, there may well have been a trade off from a later kickoff to getting Friday night game at some other point of the season.

I know of at least 8 families heading down to game from up north simply because it's a5pm kickoff and the kids are holidays.


Rip him a new one all you want when there's evidence he's ****ed up (there's plenty of them to choose from) but to suggest he probably didn't even try to adjust the kickoff time, when we know two fifths of feckall about the sway tv has or the target market the club is chasing, or the ins and outs of that decision is ludicrous. There well maybe considerable data to suggest there's more people wanting a 5pm game time than any other.... Fox might have wanted a 3pm game for all we know.

Assuming the worst in people with no evidence seems to be the newcastle way.

[GazFish35]

Bk not training today according to twitter.

[borat]

So, squad discussion. Mitch Hughes from NBN says to expect squad changes for this game after today's training.

I am thinking Kew for Madaschi is a possibility. Griffo definitely needs a rest so a swap with Neuman seems likely. A change in the midfield might freshen the team with Kanta or Caravan to swap for Carney or Cooper.

Also saying Kennedy did not train today so maybe Birraz gets a farewell game.

[Grimario]

So, squad discussion. Mitch Hughes from NBN says to expect squad changes for this game after today's training.

I am thinking Kew for Madaschi is a possibility. Griffo definitely needs a rest so a swap with Neuman seems likely. A change in the midfield might freshen the team with Kanta or Caravan to swap for Carney or Cooper.

Also saying Kennedy did not train today so maybe Birraz gets a farewell game.

Isn't Captain Kew out for another game? Or has he already missed 3 games now?

Would like to see Cooper get a start... and is Lundy as good as joel31 rates him in FM?

[MFKS]

Rip him a new one all you want when there's evidence he's ****ed up (there's plenty of them to choose from) but to suggest he probably didn't even try to adjust the kickoff time, when we know two fifths of feckall about the sway tv has or the target market the club is chasing, or the ins and outs of that decision is ludicrous. There well maybe considerable data to suggest there's more people wanting a 5pm game time than any other.... Fox might have wanted a 3pm game for all we know.

Assuming the worst in people with no evidence seems to be the newcastle way.

What evidence can you actually provide the bloke actually knows what he is doing??

It ain't a case of us wanting to kick the bloke cause we are struggling.

We have been progressively getting worse under this blokes alleged leadership in the last 4 years.

We are beyond the point of assuming the worst with no evidence. We are calling him incompetent based on 4 years of complete shite that is getting worse under his watch.

We had a game at this time of year a few years back where we had the 1 entire round in the day thing and we had a similarly shit time and the crowd suffered.

Surely that is enough evidence that this KO time is not suitable for our supporters and a competent CEO would be going into bat for his supporters who pay their money to support this club and have to alter their work plans to take in a home game or miss out cause we have a kick off on a midweek fixture at an hour of the day that isn't suitable to the vast majority of people who work a standard hours day.

All good and well people from up north coming down for the day but don't **** over the loyal fans who live in the Newy region who actually continue to support this shower of shite Middleby runs in spite of the shite he serves up

[Thomas477]

But it's all Tinkler's fault! It's not like the ceo of our club is running it, that's crazy!

[GazFish35]

What evidence can you actually provide the bloke actually knows what he is doing??

It ain't a case of us wanting to kick the bloke cause we are struggling.

We have been progressively getting worse under this blokes alleged leadership in the last 4 years.

We are beyond the point of assuming the worst with no evidence. We are calling him incompetent based on 4 years of complete shite that is getting worse under his watch.

We had a game at this time of year a few years back where we had the 1 entire round in the day thing and we had a similarly shit time and the crowd suffered.

Surely that is enough evidence that this KO time is not suitable for our supporters and a competent CEO would be going into bat for his supporters who pay their money to support this club and have to alter their work plans to take in a home game or miss out cause we have a kick off on a midweek fixture at an hour of the day that isn't suitable to the vast majority of people who work a standard hours day.

All good and well people from up north coming down for the day but don't **** over the loyal fans who live in the Newy region who actually continue to support this shower of shite Middleby runs in spite of the shite he serves up

I'm not arguing there isn't a mounting pile of evidence to suggest he's out of his depth.

I'm arguing you can't add this kickoff time to that pile without knowing the mechanisms behind the decision.
For all we know fox could have wanted it at 4:15, or when the draw comes out he's argued for 10 other changes and this one was one he had to concede.


If you want to mount a case of examples of his incompetence and poor decisions at least do it with examples based on some knowledge about the factors influencing a decision.

FFS laLiga games kickoff at 10pm because TV stations at so. You think fox give a **** what any CEO wants.

The families travelling down from up here were just one example of how a 5pm kickoff might actually help some people get to the game.

[GazFish35]

What evidence can you actually provide the bloke actually knows what he is doing??



For the record! None, but I've never claimed I do, just suggesting anything in the "evidence against" column should hold a little water. I even suggested in my previous post that I recognise there's a mounting pile of evidence to support your (and others claims)



As a man of faith I though you'd understand the possibility of believing in something with little evidence.

[MFKS]

I'm not arguing there isn't a mounting pile of evidence to suggest he's out of his depth.

I'm arguing you can't add this kickoff time to that pile without knowing the mechanisms behind the decision.
For all we know fox could have wanted it at 4:15, or when the draw comes out he's argued for 10 other changes and this one was one he had to concede.


If you want to mount a case of examples of his incompetence and poor decisions at least do it with examples based on some knowledge about the factors influencing a decision.

FFS laLiga games kickoff at 10pm because TV stations at so. You think fox give a **** what any CEO wants.

The families travelling down from up here were just one example of how a 5pm kickoff might actually help some people get to the game.

Public perception is a wonderful thing.

Whilst Middleby says or does nothing on little subjects like this says a lot about peoples perceptions of him.

At least posture to the press and get the message out regularly to the punters you are trying to do this and that regardless of it is working or not.
At least people then think he is trying. Even if he is posturing behind closed doors without success get the story out there. FFS He has some degree of control over his clubs website/ Facebook page/ Ability to call some tosser from the Newy herald with a scoop etc


The bloke is epically failing at this game also.

He wants blokes like me off his case at least give me some bullshit from time to time that you actually are trying to deal with issues that see our club disadvantaged and not letting it go through on the public record as unopposed.

Bloke is that poor at this he actually does nothing to negate the blame being directed at himself

[MFKS]

For the record! None, but I've never claimed I do, just suggesting anything in the "evidence against" column should hold a little water. I even suggested in my previous post that I recognise there's a mounting pile of evidence to support your (and others claims)



As a man of faith I though you'd understand the possibility of believing in something with little evidence.

Nice troll 6/10 I give it :roflz:

[la bazzle]

As a man of faith I though you'd understand the possibility of believing in something with little evidence.

:lulzturtle:

[GazFish35]

Nice troll 6/10 I give it :roflz:

Thanks, I've never heard you give anyone wrap without a backhanded compliment.

I'll take 6/10.

It'd be better than birraz's ratio of dealing competently with balls into the box!

[MFKS]

Thanks, I've never heard you give anyone wrap without a backhanded compliment.

I'll take 6/10.

It'd be better than birraz's ratio of dealing competently with balls into the box!

I am only giving 3/10 for that effort :facepalm: Feel that you could do much better

[Couscous]

In which match thread should I post uninformed, uninteresting comments?

[GazFish35]

In which match thread should I post uninformed, uninteresting comments?

This one.

[plague]

I am only giving 3/10 for that effort :facepalm: Feel that you could do much better

Looks like I need to give Mr Fish a masterclass. Leave it to me Member.

By the way Mr Fish had a great point about La Liga. Their TV station dictates to Barca and Madrid exactly when they are kicking off, usually on 2-3 weeks notice and at ridiculous timeslots (as mentioned). All of which to cater to the worldwide market, not the local fans. and the clubs get pretty much FA input. (look it up, its a big issue in Spain at the moment).
Why does the TV station get to do that to the 2 biggest clubs in the world?
cause they pay the bills bitchez.
get used to the way the world works.

Great isnt it.

[MFKS]

Looks like I need to give Mr Fish a masterclass. Leave it to me Member.

By the way Mr Fish had a great point about La Liga. Their TV station dictates to Barca and Madrid exactly when they are kicking off, usually on 2-3 weeks notice and at ridiculous timeslots (as mentioned). All of which to cater to the worldwide market, not the local fans. and the clubs get pretty much FA input. (look it up, its a big issue in Spain at the moment).
Why does the TV station get to do that to the 2 biggest clubs in the world?
cause they pay the bills bitchez.
get used to the way the world works.

Great isnt it.

your points are noted but as you said they are the two biggest clubs in the world and TV provides them the money to pay Missi CR7 Iniesta Bale their exorbitant wages.

Foxtel on the other hand have two of the shittest clubs in the HAL playing at 5:00 pm on a weekday which lets face it wouldn't get great ratings if it was given the best spot ever. They also pay peanuts so we have blokes like Gallaway Gallagher and Roundabout playing for us.

Our CEO has grounds for telling TV to **** off here and put it on at a reasonable hour where viewers and punters are not hampered.
FFS even Foxtel ratings will even be down with anyone who is neutral and who is batshit enough who wants to watch this game will most likely still be at work.

This is a situation where neither Foxtel or Jets actually are winning on

[hawk]

no ****ing idea why this is on at 5pm on a non public holiday at 5pm

Most of our games are this, big dog town we are. We still get 11k at 7.30pm kick offs.

Management, get off the sausage and fix this

[MFKS]

Most of our games are this, big dog town we are. We still get 11k at 7.30pm kick offs.

Management, get off the sausage and fix this

It is rather pertinent to note that for some reason Jets Gypos have a massive disproportion of home game 5pm ko on Saturday arvo compared to the other teams. Wonder how many Roar Victree Wankers Smurfs get and reckon between the 4 of them they would be lucky to match Gypos or jets tally singularly.

Why our glorious CEO wants to play home games at any other time than night time is beyond me. We always draw well at 7:30pm Friday/Saturday night in spite of how shit we are

[GazFish35]

your points are noted but as you said they are the two biggest clubs in the world and TV provides them the money to pay Missi CR7 Iniesta Bale their exorbitant wages.

Foxtel on the other hand have two of the shittest clubs in the HAL playing at 5:00 pm on a weekday which lets face it wouldn't get great ratings if it was given the best spot ever. They also pay peanuts so we have blokes like Gallaway Gallagher and Roundabout playing for us.

Our CEO has grounds for telling TV to **** off here and put it on at a reasonable hour where viewers and punters are not hampered.
FFS even Foxtel ratings will even be down with anyone who is neutral and who is batshit enough who wants to watch this game will most likely still be at work.

This is a situation where neither Foxtel or Jets actually are winning on

Santo sam and ed will outrate our game, fox say jump, clubs ask how high, how often and for how long.

Doesn't matter if fox pay peanuts and we get gallaway, while barca and real get messi and statue dude. TV pays the bills, just our bills are smaller, they still need to be paid.


And to your post above, regional teams don't rate on TV, so we get 5pm kickoff times.
Big city clubs get prime time games as they rate higher.

I'd be surprised to if the 5pm games aren't cheaper, less light tower use, less security needed due to lower levels of intoxication from drinking all afternoon and evening.

[hawk]

Santo sam and ed will outrate our game, fox say jump.

gee i would hope so


Doesn't matter if fox pay peanuts and we get gallaway

is there a monkey joke in there? :whistling:

[MFKS]

Santo sam and ed will outrate our game, fox say jump, clubs ask how high, how often and for how long.

Doesn't matter if fox pay peanuts and we get gallaway, while barca and real get messi and statue dude. TV pays the bills, just our bills are smaller, they still need to be paid.


And to your post above, regional teams don't rate on TV, so we get 5pm kickoff times.
Big city clubs get prime time games as they rate higher.

I'd be surprised to if the 5pm games aren't cheaper, less light tower use, less security needed due to lower levels of intoxication from drinking all afternoon and evening.

I understand the alleged reasoning behind big city teams getting the favourable treatment.

Just another example of discrimination towards regional Australia and them getting screwed over for the big smoke again and again.

[Grimario]

Shame this game is on so early, really.

I've organised for my second trip to outdoor cinema but unfortunately it doesn't start till 8:30pm. Might have to watch this shitfest.

[Thomas477]

Don't do it to yourself Grim!

[goaliepersempre]

**** modern football!!!!!!! stupid foxtel and a leagues 18 games in 18 days or whatever

[pv4]

Is BK or Biraz starting?

GazFish said the other day BK had missed training.

[Thomas477]

Guess we'll find out in an hour or so.

[My2BobsWorth]

Is BK or Biraz starting?

GazFish said the other day BK had missed training.

Don't they have a newsagent at the caravan park.

[joel31]

BK to start. I get the feeling Birraz will seek a move in January and will never play for the club again

[Ranger-86]

We are at home. As a fan is it wrong to expect upbeat attacking football and not boring defensive counter attacking crap.

[plague]

Have we conceded yet?

[weston]

Have we conceded yet?

Yes

[Grimario]

Yep.

Shambolic. Welsh out. Stubbins out for even picking him with kew available.

Ffs.

[plague]

Oh that's fantastic. Stuck at work with only the Foz for coverage.

[Grimario]

Oh that's fantastic. Stuck at work with only the Foz for coverage.

Welsh tripped Duff, penalty to mooy. Bk dived the wrong way, useless.

[plague]

Mrs Plague says it was a penalty? Is that correct? If so was it a good call.



Most important did BK dive?

[Grimario]

Oh that's fantastic. Stuck at work with only the Foz for coverage.

Koren goal too. Madaschi **** up, goal. Bk dived, missed it, useless.

[weston]

2-0 9 mins

[plague]

Oh wow Mrs Plagues texts are not encouraging. 2-0 now?
Jeez we suck.
Everyone out.

[Grimario]

At least Brown hasn't scored yet.

[Ranger-86]

Really shits me that i worked outside in the 36 degree heat, looking forward to having a few
Beers and watching my local team on tv and hoping for a win, instead get dished up this rubbish.

[weston]

At least Brown hasn't scored yet.

Just wait

[weston]

Really shits me that i worked outside in the 36 degree heat, looking forward to having a few
Beers and watching my local team on tv and hoping for a win, instead get dished up this rubbish.

May need more beer

[Grimario]

Just wait

I put that there specifically so I could quote myself later in the game and say OH WELL.

[Grimario]

Griff the Redeemer almost scores from FK, flappy flaps it just wide.

[Grimario]

FAO plague
Hoole is looking good, cross jitsu eluding griff. Hoole then beats three defenders but heavy last touch, ball out.

Virgili yellow, late tackle on Brown.

[Grimario]

FAO plague
Corner for city, Kisnorbo passes back to Duff who shoots and scores. Bk dived, got a hand to it but sift,weak, useless.

Three blot.

[plague]

Mrs Plague is about to leave the stadium. She's had enough. Plague Jnr is nonplussed, he's only 5 so he knows nothing other than them being shit.

I'm laughing too much to care.

[plague]

Hope they get booed off the ****ing park at the half.
Useless ****s.

[plague]

Can someone please let me know that the Member is ok.

[BodyNovo]

How goods air conditioning and the cricket but

Poor sods at hunter stadium

[Grimario]

How goods air conditioning and the cricket but

Poor sods at hunter stadium

How's the cricket going?

[Grimario]

FAO plague
Hoole has been fouled about six million times. Wins a FK, takes it and for some reason, Madaschi stops his run when he could have had an unopposed header. Bk wasn't in picture, useless. Lucien Lavadour has looked decent in goal for city.

[la bazzle]

phil dando dropping massive truth bombs... brilliant

[Grimario]

phil dando dropping massive truth bombs... brilliant

What did he have to say?

4 at the back now, kew on for virgili.

[weston]

good to see we aren't trying to claw our way back into the game.

[weston]

keeper drops the ball and its a foul. ffs, I hate this fouling the goalkeeper bullshit.

[la bazzle]

What did he have to say?

4 at the back now, kew on for virgili.

Essentially no where near good enough. Way behind all other teams. Too slow no where near other players. Thoroughly deserve wooden spoon. Need a complete overhaul. Deserve to get booed. Will never bet on them again. Sounds furious with the rubbish he's seeing.

[Grimario]

keeper drops the ball and its a foul. ffs, I hate this fouling the goalkeeper bullshit.

Apart from that, he's having a good game with the whistle.

[Grimario]

Essentially no where near good enough. Way behind all other teams. Too slow no where near other players. Thoroughly deserve wooden spoon. Need a complete overhaul. Deserve to get booed. Will never bet on them again. Sounds furious with the rubbish he's seeing.

Legend.

[Grimario]

Don't do it to yourself Grim!

Should have listened.

[lquiquer]

What did he have to say?

4 at the back now, kew on for virgili.

R we 3 nil up???

[Grimario]

R we 3 nil up???

It's a new half, rtreating it like it's 0-0.

[plague]

Made it home into the aircon at Plague Manor. Watching the cricket. I have beer.
Many thanks for the updates Grimario. Can't wait for Mrs Plague to get home with all the details of the game.

[Grimario]

Madaschi off, Jeronimo on. Carney to left back.

Bk with a great save, useless.

[Grimario]

4 blot.

Good to see left back absolutely nowhere in picture there.

[Mark325]

On a positive, at least we were never winning this game so we didn't throw

[la bazzle]

lololol "the jets are so poor theyre incapable of doing anything, this is diabolical"

[plague]

Last 4-0 result we sacked the keeper even though none of it was his fault.
In fairness BK needs to go for this.
I, for one, am looking forward to the John Solari era.

[WolfMan]

Riddle me this - we go to a stock-standard back 4 and the score remains 3-0. Within minutes of sacrificing Madaschi for Jeronimo, the lead is up to 4.

It's not rocket surgery, Phillip

[Grimario]

Pepper for Neville? What system is he playing now?

Oh, back to 442.

[la bazzle]

Pepper for Neville? What system is he playing now?

Oh, back to 442.

4-0-0

[la bazzle]

We're back babayyyyyy

[Grimario]

Get in, Monty

[Grimario]

Nice hatty

[la bazzle]

they're back babayyyy

[weston]

We're back babayyyyyy

say what?

[Mark325]

And the comeback is back off

[Hunter403]

4 nil and I have walked out. Crap of highest order. Tactically inept manager that at 3 nil sits on his butt and says nothing and does nothing. Our very own Sgt Schultz.

Huge banner next game demanding Middleby and Stubbins out.

[WolfMan]

Anyone blames BK for that 5th goal needs their head read

[Grimario]

Wasn't covering his near post, useless by bk.

[la bazzle]

Anyone blames BK for that 5th goal needs their head read

Did he dive?

[WolfMan]

Wasn't covering his near post, useless by bk.

Brilliant

[hawk]

"paper mache defence" :wacko:

[WolfMan]

There's at least adhesion involved in papier-mâché

The Jets would make a terrible piñata

[la bazzle]

We're back babayyyyy

[Mark325]

and the comeback is back on lads

[Grimario]

Didn't hold onto that pile driver from distance, bk, useless.

[Jeterpool]

We'd lose against the ****ing bye

[Hunter403]

Beyond bad. Beyond belief.

[plague]

Before y'all start getting yer tin hats on I think the 5-2 result is a little misleading.
We won possession stats 54-46.
Corners 8-3.
Just sounds like we were a tad unlucky.

[Hunter403]

Before y'all start getting yer tin hats on I think the 5-2 result is a little misleading.
We won possession stats 54-46.
Corners 8-3.
Just sounds like we were a tad unlucky.

Are really GVE in disguise?

[plague]

What was the crowd figure?

[foti68]

What was the crowd figure?
9900 and some

[goaliepersempre]

Now we can be behind the 5-2 jokes..... Ffs are we spurs!!!!

[foti68]

Before y'all start getting yer tin hats on I think the 5-2 result is a little misleading.
We won possession stats 54-46.
Corners 8-3.
Just sounds like we were a tad unlucky.

At Half time we had 37-63 % the damage was already done

[lquiquer]

3-0 down at home against City, any coach in their right mind would make changes after 20 minutes

[lquiquer]

Before y'all start getting yer tin hats on I think the 5-2 result is a little misleading.
We won possession stats 54-46.
Corners 8-3.
Just sounds like we were a tad unlucky.

I don't buy a membership to do arithmetic. I only care about 1 number: 3 (Points)

[plague]

At Half time we had 37-63 % the damage was already done

Shame the game goes for 90mins mate.
We had more of the ball, as many shots, and more corners.
All signs point to an unlucky day at the office.

[lquiquer]

Has Griff offered a refund yet?..... We might get a discount on home loans

[the blue manc]

was the game on the comedy channel? because what i watched today it should have been.

[Wilso8948]

Not saying he's our saviour.. But.. Isn't it sad knowing we've got these clowns managing our team when mike mulvey is sitting on his ass up north wondering how the **** he can't get a gig in the A league

[snake]

9900 and some

was that the announcement? 6k tops, imo.

[lquiquer]

Not saying he's our saviour.. But.. Isn't it sad knowing we've got these clowns managing our team when mike mulvey is sitting on his ass up north wondering how the **** he can't get a gig in the A league

No dineros m8

[Buddha]

Not saying he's our saviour.. But.. Isn't it sad knowing we've got these clowns managing our team when mike mulvey is sitting on his ass up north wondering how the **** he can't get a gig in the A league

Because he inherited a good team and when tried to play the way he wanted to, failed miserably, I don't see him doing any better here than what is currently going on

Plus he managed to lose to us 3 times last season, you must be absolutely rancid to lose to us

[MFKS]

BK to start. I get the feeling Birraz will seek a move in January and will never play for the club again

I get the feeling Birraz will be starting Saturday

Great work from BK on the second goal. :lulzturtle:

Great work from BK on the 3rd goal :lulzturtle:

BK should be back riding the pine Saturday :lulzturtle:

[MFKS]

Can someone please let me know that the Member is ok.

I am fine Plague

I was actually cheering every time Heart scored.

Sees my Middleby Out dream coming closer to reality.

Was actually upset that Heart didn't score more. They were inept also and it says a lot that they scored 5 yet rarely pushed or tried for the ten that were on offer

[Buddha]

I get the feeling Birraz will be starting Saturday

Great work from BK on the second goal. :lulzturtle:

Great work from BK on the 3rd goal :lulzturtle:

BK should be back riding the pine Saturday :lulzturtle:
Bit harsh for the second goal member

[Wilso8948]

Because he inherited a good team and when tried to play the way he wanted to, failed miserably, I don't see him doing any better here than what is currently going on

Plus he managed to lose to us 3 times last season, you must be absolutely rancid to lose to us

Yeh you're right.. Probably just sent the team out and said "righto chaps go win the league".

Would shit on anything we've got presently.

But the argument is void anyway until we get a new owner. Just was throwing my two bobs in

[foti68]

I get the feeling Birraz will be starting Saturday

Great work from BK on the second goal. :lulzturtle:

Great work from BK on the 3rd goal :lulzturtle:

BK should be back riding the pine Saturday :lulzturtle:

I was talking to Birazz last week and he implied to me that he was told to look elsewhere as his services were no longer required.

[MFKS]

Bit harsh for the second goal member

Neither covered the near post and left a giant gap. Also hesitated and should have been out to close down Koran the second it was diverted.

You want to list Birraz failings in great detail the time has arrived for BK to cop it

3rd goal complete lack of command of the area. Allowed a free header 4 metres out Kisnorbo ****ed it up before diverted to Duff

Also great save in the second half to parry a shot straight back to the penalty spot. Surprisingly it Didn't end up in the net cause that is where shit like that deserves to :whistling:

[Buddha]

It's a shame we are so shit because Montano is an absolute beast, if he were in a team that were actually decent he would have a ton of goals by now.

[Thomas477]

Bit harsh for the second goal member

He stopped then kept on coming. I reckon if he had come full boar, he may have got to it.

[Couscous]

My only consolation is that the forum remains the same. Whatever the result, whether it be a freak win or dogsh|t like today, I know this place will be discussing the keeper's merits.

I see the forum as a comforting blanket, a warm bosum or perhaps an internet version of the foetal position.

[Jetmaster]

You want to list Birraz failings in great detail the time has arrived for BK to cop it

3rd goal complete lack of command of the area. Allowed a free header 4 metres out Kisnorbo ****ed it up before diverted to Duff

Tiring - Birraz is leaving in January and will probably never play for the Jest again. Even allowing for one or two judgement errors, BK still doesn't look like the flapping cat on a hot tin roof Birraz became.

And he has yet to concede a "howler".

[Ranger-86]

Keeper tends to be number one topic when you have the worst defense in the comp.Would rather winge about all the goals our forwards keep missing.

[Xander]

Time to promote the Jaffas.

[steve136]

BK is pathetic. But so are the 10 guys in front of him. Should bring back Biraz, he had cooler hair.

[Jetmaster]

BK is pathetic. But so are the 10 guys in front of him. Should bring back Biraz, he had cooler hair.

HSG can't afford any more mirrors !

[Buddha]

He stopped then kept on coming. I reckon if he had come full boar, he may have got to it.

I'd back Koren, never realised how small and how much of a whippet he is till today, if he did come full bore who's to say Koren touches it past him and does the Greg Louganis and gets BK sent off.

[MFKS]

I'd back Koren, never realised how small and how much of a whippet he is till today, if he did come full bore who's to say Koren touches it past him and does the Greg Louganis and gets BK sent off.

Whether Koren would have scored or not is irrelevant.

BK needed to do everything he could to close him down and make himself as big as he could. He failed dramatically and left a huge hole on the near post to slot in.

BK failed in the basics of goalkeeping and made it easy for a player of Korens talent.

[Tommyjet]

Whether Koren would have scored or not is irrelevant.

BK needed to do everything he could to close him down and make himself as big as he could. He failed dramatically and left a huge hole on the near post to slot in.

BK failed in the basics of goalkeeping and made it easy for a player of Korens talent.

Seriously bud, the whole team was diabolical. How about we talk about caravella's need to pass backwards when he has other options or even despite trying hard, hoole's desperate need to flop every time he is confronted rather than going in with the play.

Seriously, picking on the goalkeeper when the defence and midfield is completely shite is utterly pointless and patheticly repetitive.

[plague]

Seriously bud, the whole team was diabolical. How about we talk about caravella's need to pass backwards when he has other options or even despite trying hard, hoole's desperate need to flop every time he is confronted rather than going in with the play.

Seriously, picking on the goalkeeper when the defence and midfield is completely shite is utterly pointless and patheticly repetitive.

I'll say it again.
54-46 possession.
We had plenty of the ball.
On another day we might have gotten something out of it.

[hawk]

I was talking to Birazz last week and he implied to me that he was told to look elsewhere as his services were no longer required.

or....could it be to save face from wanting an earlier transfer

[plague]

How long is Biraz under contract for?

[Thomas477]

I'll say it again.
54-46 possession.
We had plenty of the ball.
On another day we might have gotten something out of it.

Having 90% percent of our 54% possession in our own half doesn't mean shit all. GvE's biggest issue was that we did exactly the same thing! He was hounded for it! If we had the majority of possession in their half, then I would agree with you, but we didn't. We just held it in our own half and hoped for the best.

Tbh, I think the most telling thing was about half the people around bay 55 clapping when they got their fourth and/or fifth, I can't remember.

[plague]

Just saw the highlights.
I have BK at fault for all 5 Heart goals as well as both the Jets ones.
7 goals in one game is a disgrace.
BK out.

[plague]

Having 90% percent of our 54% possession in our own half doesn't mean shit all. GvE's biggest issue was that we did exactly the same thing! He was hounded for it! If we had the majority of possession in their half, then I would agree with you, but we didn't. We just held it in our own half and hoped for the best.

Tbh, I think the most telling thing was about half the people around bay 55 clapping when they got their fourth and/or fifth, I can't remember.

So you bag me about using percentages in my argument then go right ahead and use percentages in your own.
Can't have it both ways mate.

[Thomas477]

So you bag me about using percentages in my argument then go right ahead and use percentages in your own.
Can't have it both ways mate.

Wasn't bagging out your using percentages, just pointing out that the possession stat didn't mean much if the majority of our possession was in our own half.

But on another note, did anyone else notice how far Velaphi was constantly off his line?

[MFKS]

I also did like how Jeronimo decided to artificially boost our shots at goal stat by shooting from kickoff in a vain attempt to catch Tando out

[Buddha]

I'll say it again.
54-46 possession.
We had plenty of the ball.
On another day we might have gotten something out of it.
The difference being is that City played the correct tactic against us, sit and wait for the inevitable **** up and ineptitude of our defenders

They scored 4 counter attacking goals and one penalty. If we were more direct in our play and use Montys strength in the air a lot more by whipping crosses in we would have definitely gotten something out of it

[GazFish35]

I blame terry venables.

[pv4]

How long is Biraz under contract for?

Until end of 15/16.

[pv4]

Don't they have a newsagent at the caravan park.

How cute is it that I have my own shadow.

[pv4]

Like Tommyjet said - the crowd figure will be very interesting. I'm anticipating 5k - I have no idea if that would be considered optimistic or pessimistic.

I was all kinds of wrong on the crowd prediction.

I feel sorry for the extra 4.9k that showed up.

snake - that crowd was pretty similar to the other crowds we've had this year, that all were stated around that 9-10k mark. I think the Western Stand is deceiving and has more people in it that it looks, because the hills aren't exactly packed and the SunStand (aka Eastern) has a lot of seats.

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Would like to put my opinion on 2 topics. 1 - Who I'd retain at the club from last nights squad. 2 - How/who I'd play based on who is currently on the books at the club.

Last night.
BK - gone
Neville - give a chance
Madaschi - gone
Welsh - gone
Hoole - give a chance
Virgili - gone
Kantarovski - gone
Caravella - give chance
Carney - give chance
Griffiths - keep
Montano - keep

Bench
Birra - gone
Kew - give chance
Neumann - keep
Pepper - keep

I'm happy to explain a couple of those above that draw strong opinions. Caravella, in a decent footballing side (which we would welcome) is an asset as his work rate and ability to keep the ball moving is very good. Yes, he does go backward and sideways too much but we are incorrectly expecting him to be a creator in this shambolic setup. It's not his game. Carney I think could be massive for this club if he wants to be here! His versatility and quality on the ball would be important in a decent side footballing side (again assuming). Kew - many love him but take the blinkers off and watch his positional play, sometimes its nothing short of awful. I think he has become a favourite here maybe because of a distinct lack of others for fans to gravitate to. Kantarovski - I've pushed him out the door because I think he needs it. I nearly wrote "kid" there and there lays the problem, he's not a kid anymore and his game hasn't gone to the next level and a change may be all he needs to fulfil his potential.

Provided fit, the 4231 for next game assuming all fit;
Scolari
Neville. Kanta. Kew. Carney.
Pepper. Caravella
Neumann Flores Griffiths
Montano
The only pair that gave me anything to think about were Celeski and Hoole.

Thoughts anyone?

[WolfMan]

Solari is terrible. If he started yesterday, it would have been double figures on 1 side of the scoreboard

[Thomas477]

I'll second that. You think Biraz is bad in the air, wait until you see Scolari.

[BodyNovo]

Just fold the club

[lquiquer]

Can't believe Stubbins used the "short turn around" excuse..... Sorry should say CAN believe he used that excuse..... Was more expecting the hot conditions excuse, but then it was also hot for city......

[Rocknerd]

Just fold the cluband then we can all join the RBB

[Thomas477]

Can't believe Stubbins used the "short turn around" excuse..... Sorry should say CAN believe he used that excuse..... Was more expecting the hot conditions excuse, but then it was also hot for city......

Called it. But the question needs to be asked then, what about the other 11 blokes who didn't play the full 90 on boxing day? Why would we use our squad to help in such situations?

[joel31]

If Birraz trial rumour is true and he leaves soon. BK will be playing in the Gong member

[Hunter403]

Short turn around? Team off the pace? Deal with it Phil!!!! Other managers did!!!!

Simply put, City had obviously watched the videos of our last two games (if we don't have a VCR I can dig one up) and tore us apart in the first 10 minutes down the flanks. Blind Phil should have acted then and reverted to a back 4, hauling the Virgin off and getting Kew on the field. That would have created
BK
Neville Kew Dash Training cone Welsh
Carney Kanta Roundabout Hoole
Griff Beast

But no. Phil did NOTHING.

My team for Smurfs
BK
Neville Kew Dash Pepper
Carney Kanta Hoole
Flores
Beast Jeronimo

If Flores isn't fit enough use Roundabout or Griff when he runs out of steam
I really think Pepper is not the answer at left back but he will give his all and is better than Gallagher, Galloway and Welsh. Do we have a youth player worth blooding here? After all, the season is gone.

[BodyNovo]

Cowburn?

[borat]

The blame for this debacle has to be laid at Stubbins feet. 2 hard fought games leading up to this fixture was always going to leave the team tired. Only Stubbins sees how they perform at training and that should have been the guide as to shuffling the starting side to freshen them up or sticking with the same.

Conceding 28 goals this year is the problem, 7 more than anyone else. Until the defence can be sorted we are wasting our time.

I would revert back to the 3-5-2 as this was the best we have defended all season. But we need more from our strikers and therefore I would bench Joel for Jerinimo or Cooper. One of our strikers has to be constantly harassing the defence and putting pressure on the ball.

All the criticism of Welsh is completely unwarranted.
It's the kids first season as a professional and first run of games in the starting side. You have to expect a bad game and it's Stubbins's job to see that coming and rest him. Not throw Welsh to the wolves and play 3 back to back games in 7 days.

[Grimario]

Called it. But the question needs to be asked then, what about the other 11 blokes who didn't play the full 90 on boxing day? Why would we use our squad to help in such situations?

What about Gallagher and Gallaway at the back? If he was going to park the bus in Melbourne and pray for a draw (anyone who says we were unlucky is kidding themselves... 60-40 possession, 15 shots to 4), he could have done it with the dregs and left the first choice fresh for last night. To use short turn around as an excuse is ****ing ridiculous... especially when he didn't come out and go "We only beat Adelaide because they had a short turn around since Cup Final".

**** him off, the sooner the better. **** the whole lot of them off from owner to board and all the coaching staff.

[R Ramjet]

We are slow on the ball ....
We are slow off the ball .....
We play so much slower than the other teams ......
Why the f*ck are we so slow at everything

[My2BobsWorth]

If we don't get rid of Griffiths and Montano, nothing will change.

[q-money]

happy new year bridgey

[My2BobsWorth]

Thanks Member

[Thomas477]

Thanks Member

Since when has q been the member?

[My2BobsWorth]

You are so out of the loop

[MFKS]

You are so out of the loop

Your not even on the same loop as anyone here

WTF you thanking me for???