2015 NEW FM League thread

[Zico]

Why the hell newfm clubs are putting money in westons pocket is beyond me
Crawl back into your hole in the ground blister dick.

[q-money]

gentlemen, please

[ForeverRed]

Crawl back into your hole in the ground blister dick.

Please explain

[front2]

lucky I did not post my other three picks.

[MFKS]

Crawl back into your hole in the ground blister dick.
:wtf:
Zico

Costs nothing to be nice

[rijid]

Noticed that all four Premiership winners, didn't win a Grand Final. Makes me think it's a bit of a farce.
My two bob's worth - Play a post season competition for all clubs.

For example in a 10 team comp :
Week 1, bottom 4 teams play off leaving 8.
Then play Quarters/Semis, Finals etc.

This keeps all clubs interested at least one week longer.

[MFKS]

Noticed that all four Premiership winners, didn't win a Grand Final. Makes me think it's a bit of a farce.
My two bob's worth - Play a post season competition for all clubs.

For example in a 10 team comp :
Week 1, bottom 4 teams play off leaving 8.
Then play Quarters/Semis, Finals etc.

This keeps all clubs interested at least one week longer.

Was done like that in the mid 90's

Every team in the 10 team NBN comp made the semis.

No fairer either way.

One year we finished 7th played like busted arses all season and made the GF.
The team we played was No 4 if I remember right so 3 teams better than the highest rank GF qualifier were not there despite doing more over the season

[Dontknowmuch]

Noticed that all four Premiership winners, didn't win a Grand Final. Makes me think it's a bit of a farce.
My two bob's worth - Play a post season competition for all clubs.

For example in a 10 team comp :
Week 1, bottom 4 teams play off leaving 8.
Then play Quarters/Semis, Finals etc.

This keeps all clubs interested at least one week longer.

The premiership is the one that counts, although being involved in a grand final is always exiting the GF winner is not a true reflection of who the best team is. The cumalitive results of the whole season is the true indicator. I'm sure Valentine after winning 3 premierships and no GF's are more than happy with there season. Maybe we should have no Final series and instead have play offs for promotion relegation etc, works elsewhere, as well we could just have 1st playing against 2nd in a grand final home and away.

[rijid]

The premiership is the one that counts, although being involved in a grand final is always exiting the GF winner is not a true reflection of who the best team is. The cumalitive results of the whole season is the true indicator. I'm sure Valentine after winning 3 premierships and no GF's are more than happy with there season. Maybe we should have no Final series and instead have play offs for promotion relegation etc, works elsewhere, as well we could just have 1st playing against 2nd in a grand final home and away.

While promotion/relegation is in play (well promotion anyway), then the premiership is still important. I don't want to see the "Thugby Sleaze" situation where the Grand Final is everything.
Amazing that footballers at all level will "stack" teams to win a GF. Definitely not suggesting that anyone in NewFM did that.

I don't care if the best two teams don't make the GF. Look at FA cup etc. I just like to keep clubs interested all the way.

[NewyTy]

While promotion/relegation is in play (well promotion anyway), then the premiership is still important. I don't want to see the "Thugby Sleaze" situation where the Grand Final is everything.
Amazing that footballers at all level will "stack" teams to win a GF. Definitely not suggesting that anyone in NewFM did that.

I don't care if the best two teams don't make the GF. Look at FA cup etc. I just like to keep clubs interested all the way.

Should add a 12th team and have a 24 week first past the post season. Being Australian though you'll find the Grand Final will always outrank the Premiership. Just the way this country works. To be the best team over 22 weeks is better than jagging a couple of wins together in my opinion.

[LongSufferingFan]

Who is coaching Lakes next year?

Word on the street is Lakes signed a new coach last night.
Don't know who but supposedly a big name.

[Ker-Plunk]

wonder if last name is walker ?

[GO AWAY]

wonder if last name is walker ?

......................or Baillie ??

[supasub]

......................or Baillie ??

If it's Scott than you can expect all the EX stags players to leave.

[The Postman]

If it's Scott than you can expect all the EX stags players to leave.

Probably a few ex Stags at Singo that wouldn't mind playing closer to home though

[The General]

Probably a few ex Stags at Singo that wouldn't mind playing closer to home though
Is that a big name??

[seldom]

Probably a few ex Stags at Singo that wouldn't mind playing closer to home though

As long as Lakes have the same coin to splash round

[fan atic]

Why the hell newfm clubs are putting money in westons pocket is beyond me

word has it lakes applied to nnswf to hold it at mac queries field but was rejected.

[supasub]

word has it lakes applied to nnswf to hold it at mac queries field but was rejected.

Where is the best field in the NEWFM for the GF to even be held at?

[rijid]

Where is the best field in the NEWFM for the GF to even be held at?

IMHO:

1. Toronto (haven't been there for a while but the ground/atmosphere is good and they need the money)
2. Lake Macquarie (played O/35 Finals there last Friday and the surface was good)
3. Valentine (all a bit old but still very functional)
4. The Gardens (as long as it isn't a night game and the dogs are in their kennels ;-)

[ForeverRed]

West wallsend

[Zico]

West wallsend
I like Westy as a club but it's not a GF venue.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Probably a few ex Stags at Singo that wouldn't mind playing closer to home though

maybe those players might not get the wages now?

[Dontknowmuch]

Rumour has it Cooks Hill have a new coach for next year.

[The Postman]

Rumour has it Cooks Hill have a new coach for next year.

It's no rumour, they will be a team to watch next season.

[Newsfeed]

Rumour has it Cooks Hill have a new coach for next year.

+ have signed a couple npl players with first grade experience I heard.

[football_macigian23]

It's no rumour, they will be a team to watch next season.

Have heard Blake Glennie is coaching them

[NewyTy]

Have heard Blake Glennie is coaching them

You have heard right. Cookers have a new assistant and a new coach for 23's as well. I don't know who but Blake has names down that he wants to bring to the club and he has been present at out 17's/19's finals series matches as well. Have spoken to him and the assistant and seems like the club has serious ambitions for 2016 and beyond which is great to see. I'm a firm believer that all New-FM teams should be aiming for success and the ones that are right with the status quo (not naming them but two in particular) really will be left behind if they don't pull the finger out.

[football_macigian23]

You have heard right. Cookers have a new assistant and a new coach for 23's as well. I don't know who but Blake has names down that he wants to bring to the club and he has been present at out 17's/19's finals series matches as well. Have spoken to him and the assistant and seems like the club has serious ambitions for 2016 and beyond which is great to see. I'm a firm believer that all New-FM teams should be aiming for success and the ones that are right with the status quo (not naming them but two in particular) really will be left behind if they don't pull the finger out.

Max Sovechles (Rocky's brother) is the new 23s coach for next year. He coached Adamstown 19s or 22s can't remember

[NewyTy]

Max Sovechles (Rocky's brother) is the new 23s coach for next year. He coached Adamstown 19s or 22s can't remember

Pretty sure it was A'town 19's he coached. I'm only new over the last two years into the Cookers camp so don't know Max but have heard the club's very happy to have him back and it'll certainly be good to have a specialist 23's coach rather than the system we had this year with the captain/coach or whatever they had going (bench was always fairly quiet). Hoping he gives the younger guys a chance in 23's. I know the pitch is getting work done on it and the club seem ambitious so definitely agree that Cooks Hill will be a club to watch in 2016 and beyond. I think there'll be more teams fighting for finals next year than there were this season.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Pretty sure it was A'town 19's he coached. I'm only new over the last two years into the Cookers camp so don't know Max but have heard the club's very happy to have him back and it'll certainly be good to have a specialist 23's coach rather than the system we had this year with the captain/coach or whatever they had going (bench was always fairly quiet). Hoping he gives the younger guys a chance in 23's. I know the pitch is getting work done on it and the club seem ambitious so definitely agree that Cooks Hill will be a club to watch in 2016 and beyond. I think there'll be more teams fighting for finals next year than there were this season.

The club is going forward in a big way, exciting times ahead at cooks hill

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Strong reports that Riley (ranga) is signing from jaffas, waiting for confirmation on player wage demands

[The Postman]

Strong reports that Riley (ranga) is signing from jaffas, waiting for confirmation on player wage demands

To Cooks Hill? Putting together a nice little side.

Not sure if they would like you posting about something like that before it happens, unless you are the mystery assistant coach.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Hopefully they can gel and show there full potential....

Just a little rumour I heard floating around

The mystery assistant? Not sure about that apparently it is fairly well known, coached the 22s at stags last year??

[Dontknowmuch]

You have heard right. Cookers have a new assistant and a new coach for 23's as well. I don't know who but Blake has names down that he wants to bring to the club and he has been present at out 17's/19's finals series matches as well. Have spoken to him and the assistant and seems like the club has serious ambitions for 2016 and beyond which is great to see. I'm a firm believer that all New-FM teams should be aiming for success and the ones that are right with the status quo (not naming them but two in particular) really will be left behind if they don't pull the finger out.

What happened to Spink?

[Retro Jet]

What happened to Spink?

Just so this is official:-
Warren has moved on to doing another role in the club, more involved with our Juniors.
I believe Blake and Warren will be working together with Junior programs in the club.

Warren spoke well at the Presentation last night about the future of the club
and we're happy to have him on board.
On that note. It was an honour to be MC with Warren and Joel in the room together.

[ForeverRed]

Anthony Richards coaching lakes

[terryk]

Any word on coaching staff and players for South Cardiff for next year? I haven't read much about their player retention for next year?

[sancho_theswan]

Any word on coaching staff and players for South Cardiff for next year? I haven't read much about their player retention for next year?

Please don't attempt to have NEWFM shut down as well.

[Thomas477]

Please don't attempt to have NEWFM shut down as well.

Obviously he's a bit bored.

I'll grab some popcorn :popcorn:

[boz-monaut]

let's not behave like dickheads

otherwise you can take the off season off

[Bremsstrahlung]

Any word on coaching staff and players for South Cardiff for next year? I haven't read much about their player retention for next year?

Mate, can you just tell us why you hate Southy so much? Every single post, aimed at southy or FR?
Talk about personal vendetta.

[cobra23]

Mate, can you just tell us why you hate Southy so much? Every single post, aimed at southy or FR?
Talk about personal vendetta.

Can you tell us why forevered hates magic so much?, nearly every negative post by him is aimed at magic.
talk about personal vendetta. :popcorn:

[GO AWAY]

Please don't attempt to have NEWFM shut down as well.

Before they start with all their petty shit, calling each other names and throwing sticks....... you have got yourselves a very good coach down at sandy park sancho

[Bremsstrahlung]

Can you tell us why forevered hates magic so much?, nearly every negative post by him is aimed at magic.
talk about personal vendetta. :popcorn:

He hates all other clubs equally.

[Dontknowmuch]

From reading The Herald 3 have gone to Weston, 2 to Adamstown, 1 to Kahibah assuming there all 1st graders that would be a big blow to there campaign to regain there place in NPL.

[The Postman]

From reading The Herald 3 have gone to Weston, 2 to Adamstown, 1 to Kahibah assuming there all 1st graders that would be a big blow to there campaign to regain there place in NPL.

As well as 1 to Magic and 1 to Hamilton

[terryk]

Had a coach been confirmed? What happens to the NPL kids now those teams will be disbanded?

[The Postman]

Andrew Clark is now head coach, the guy that played for the Mariners and was with the Jets as a trainer for about 5 minutes. Think was 19s coach this year.

I assume would enter teams in A grade. If they are serious about going straight back up it wouldn't make much sense to disband their junior teams for a season and then have to recruit more players for the following year.

[winner]

As well as 1 to Magic and 1 to Hamilton
Which players have gone to Magic and Hamilton postman

[The Postman]

Jarryd Johnson - Magic
Tom Pullin (GK) - Hamilton

[onlooker]

Andrew Clark is now head coach, the guy that played for the Mariners and was with the Jets as a trainer for about 5 minutes. Think was 19s coach this year.

I assume would enter teams in A grade. If they are serious about going straight back up it wouldn't make much sense to disband their junior teams for a season and then have to recruit more players for the following year.
Think you mean Andrew Packer, Andrew Clark I believe is still working along side Graham Arnold at Sydney FC

[MFKS]

Had a coach been confirmed? What happens to the NPL kids now those teams will be disbanded?

Its a good point. Be good to see the NPL Youth expanded to include the relegated NPL clubs. Little point seeing a club have to set up the yoof teams and then have to disband cause the first grade side is pants.

End of day better comp at NPL youth level breeds better standards of players for NPL and New FM in the future.

Went and watched some New FM this year and the contrast between NPL and NewFM is way too big

[GO AWAY]

Its a good point. Be good to see the NPL Youth expanded to include the relegated NPL clubs. Little point seeing a club have to set up the yoof teams and then have to disband cause the first grade side is pants.

End of day better comp at NPL youth level breeds better standards of players for NPL and New FM in the future.

Went and watched some New FM this year and the contrast between NPL and NewFM is way too big

Some kids 17/18/19 choose to play NewFM because they are playing " First Grade " or similar, and have a warped theory it is better for them then playing U19/22 at NPL level, i agree, the gap between NPL and Newfm is massive.

[EH9]

Went and watched some New FM this year and the contrast between NPL and NewFM is way too big

Why do you think the gap is so big?

[tucker's daughter]

Why do you think the gap is so big?

Because nnsw stuffed it up with this U/22s. Should still be reserve grade in npl and newfm.

[Dontknowmuch]

How do you formulate the gap as massive, what information is there to go off other than opinions and FFA cup games which are no real guide. I believe the top 4 or 5 sides would be a little behind NPL but definetley no massive gap. The main different between the 2 is depth. Valentine's best 11 this year would compete with bottom 4 of NPL the gap is not massive, the pay scale is though.

[late_to_the_game]

How are the FFA cup games not a guide?

Adamstown vs Valentine looked like a pretty big gap on the day....

[hamburgler]

Some kids 17/18/19 choose to play NewFM because they are playing " First Grade " or similar, and have a warped theory it is better for them then playing U19/22 at NPL level, i agree, the gap between NPL and Newfm is massive.

Agreed GA. I personally know of 3 17yo's who have trialled the last 2 years at one or more NPL clubs and have not been selected for NPL. Yet all 3 have played 19s, 23s and one has made his first grade New FM debut this year off the bench.

To me that says there is a big gap between the two comps

[De-Champ]

Agreed GA. I personally know of 3 17yo's who have trialled the last 2 years at one or more NPL clubs and have not been selected for NPL. Yet all 3 have played 19s, 23s and one has made his first grade New FM debut this year off the bench.

To me that says there is a big gap between the two comps

That is a pretty small sample. Not doubting there is a gap though.

[Dontknowmuch]

Didnt Adamstown beat Weston 6 nil in an FFA cup game.

FFA cup games are no guide, not all teams treat the games the same don't prepare as they would for a normal game and are generally at the start of the season.

Best X1 v Best X1 there is a gap but not massive.

[MFKS]

How do you formulate the gap as massive, what information is there to go off other than opinions and FFA cup games which are no real guide. I believe the top 4 or 5 sides would be a little behind NPL but definetley no massive gap. The main different between the 2 is depth. Valentine's best 11 this year would compete with bottom 4 of NPL the gap is not massive, the pay scale is though.

My eyesight.

Next season go watch some NPL games and then go watch some New FM games.

What you see will indicate that there is a massive gap in standards.

Sure as shit some of the blokes playing NEW FM can make it at NPL level. But the general standard is well below what it should be.

Sure Valo and Lakes etc may make a fist of it against the bottom NPL teams but that is some of the time.

The rest of the time they are gonna be the weak patsies being led to the slaughter they were in recent times in the NBN and getting beaten by the rest of the comp

[Imyourhero]

Obviously there's a gap. If every team was competitive and similar in skill we'd have a comp of 20 teams. There is separate divisions for a reason, and for the majority, the best players flock to the highest competition. It's just life. It also doesn't change the validity of the fun and entertainment for lower divisions. I don't really understand what everyone is making a fuss about here.

[Dontknowmuch]

I agree theres is a gap and there always will be. But the gap even at youth level is getting smaller.

The strength of the top clubs in NewFM is increasing as we all hope I'm sure. With the game growing at such a massive rate and the empahasis on improving coaching at all levels, along with the fact that its almost becoming a 12 month sport there will be quality players in big numbers in the coming years that will make this gap even smaller, which will keep all current NPL clubs on their toes and give NNSW plenty of options to expand the top competition. I just hope it doesn't breed having to pay more for players and this simingly non existant points system kicks in so all clubs can survive in the top league.

[Premy]

Stop the presses..

Shock horror there is a gap in quality from 1st division to 2nd division, no one seen this coming as evidence points towards 1st division clubs having better players then 2nd division clubs.


This happens all around the world in football at all different levels.
Move on to the next controversy.

[Dontknowmuch]

I'm not ready to move on yet, I'm still looking for the evidence that the gap is massive.

Or we do all agree it is not.

[De-Champ]

I'm not ready to move on yet, I'm still looking for the evidence that the gap is massive.

Or we do all agree it is not.

It's massive.... MFKS said so.

[GO AWAY]

It's massive.... MFKS said so.

Its big

[The Postman]

Going on the FFA Cup as that is pretty much the only cross competition games we have.

Magic who were arguably at pre season considered to be the best in NPL best Westy who were arguably the worst in NewFM by a dozen goals or so.

So yeah a fairly large gap

[monz6]

Going on the FFA Cup as that is pretty much the only cross competition games we have.

Magic who were arguably at pre season considered to be the best in NPL best Westy who were arguably the worst in NewFM by a dozen goals or so.

So yeah a fairly large gap

weren't westy on top of the ladder after first seven rounds? wouldntve been worst team in newfm at that time. i know thats how they ended but if we are saying magic were best in preseason we can't be calling westy the worst

[The Postman]

weren't westy on top of the ladder after first seven rounds? wouldntve been worst team in newfm at that time. i know thats how they ended but if we are saying magic were best in preseason we can't be calling westy the worst

Finished last in 2014, I believe there were some key injuries for them at the time too.

[monz6]

Finished last in 2014, I believe there were some key injuries for them at the time too.

yes, you're right actually

[Football lover]

Any player movements that people have herd about for 2016 Newfm Comp?

[Imyourhero]

Most I've heard Jamie Subat from Weston to Thornton.
Surely Southy with fair bit of a new squad I'd imagine.
Anthony Richards to coach Lakes, what happened to the old coach?

[ForeverRed]

His the TD at azzurri

[EH9]

Any player movements that people have herd about for 2016 Newfm Comp?

Corey Fletcher and Steve Rospigliosi to Lakes

[GO AWAY]

Wallsend
Lakes
Singleton
Thornton
Cessnock
Belswans
Cooks Hill
Toronto

Argument sake for 2016

[The Postman]

Corey Fletcher and Steve Rospigliosi to Lakes

They added Matthew Grey from Southy and Owen Kemp from Cessnock today.

[The Postman]

I've also heard they are planning to add Luke Alexander and a few others next week. If all true, Lakes could be the team to beat.

Are other newfm teams recruiting as much as the likes of cookers and lakes??

And another one today - Donga And Joe Holt from CCB.

Quite strange to see a team finish 2nd recruit so heavily, but when promotion is a must it makes sense.

[GO AWAY]

And another one today - Donga And Joe Holt from CCB.

Quite strange to see a team finish 2nd recruit so heavily, but when promotion is a must it makes sense.

Donga ?

[The Postman]

Donga ?

Jason Donnelly, last played at Jaffas

[GO AWAY]

Bit quiet in here, whats happening on the signing front , Cooks Hill and Lakes look most aggressive

[The Postman]

Wallsend have signed

The Kepreotes brothers from Hamilton
Cam Hughes from Edgy
Tim Davies from the Stags

2 horse race already

[The Cookaburra Kid]

2 horses and a little horse, a little horse that still needs milk and to learn how to jump. a horse that next season can race the top 2 mentioned above :)

[GO AWAY]

Wallsend have signed

The Kepreotes brothers from Hamilton
Cam Hughes from Edgy
Tim Davies from the Stags

2 horse race already

Geez cameron Hughes going to busy, he has now signed for Azzuri, Cookers and Wallsend lol

[The Postman]

2 horses and a little horse, a little horse that still needs milk and to learn how to jump. a horse that next season can race the top 2 mentioned above :)

This young little Zebra should do well next season, seems to be great set up out there.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

the club is building well and giving the opportunity to all players to impress the new head coach, who do you/or who you playing for next year? assumed you are a current player in the NEWFM

[Old Boy]

Are there going to be any promotions into the NEW-FM comp for next season from the ZPL? What is NNSW timetable for other clubs to come in?

[LongSufferingFan]

Are there going to be any promotions into the NEW-FM comp for next season from the ZPL? What is NNSW timetable for other clubs to come in?

NewFM will be the same format and teams as this year.
I would expect that 2017 will see a revamped NewFM comp along with a revamped NPL as the rules are currently under review by NNSWF now for 2017.
Who knows what NNSWF will do - could be a 12 team NPL and 12 team NewFM by then.

[The Postman]

the club is building well and giving the opportunity to all players to impress the new head coach, who do you/or who you playing for next year? assumed you are a current player in the NEWFM

Wouldn't exactly call what I do playing lol only park soccer for me nowadays. A fan of all (most) of the clubs in NewFM and want to see them do well and become more professional across the board.

[NearlyALegend]

So whats the league shaping up like. I know its early but is it gunna be tight or a blow out

[The Postman]

So whats the league shaping up like. I know its early but is it gunna be tight or a blow out

Top 2 will be tight, Southy is the big unknown, otherwise the remaining 8/9 teams will be very close. I think the points between 3rd and 11th will be closer than ever next season.

[mefa1984]

Hi everyone,

Just a quick question? What are the restrictions for over age players in the U23s in NewFM? How many are you allowed?

Cheers

[The Postman]

Hi everyone,

Just a quick question? What are the restrictions for over age players in the U23s in NewFM? How many are you allowed?

Cheers

6 total on Team Sheet, regardless of starting/bench/GK

[mefa1984]

6 total on Team Sheet, regardless of starting/bench/GK

cheers postman

[GO AWAY]

6 total on Team Sheet, regardless of starting/bench/GK

So " Under 23s " can have more " over 23s " players on the field then they do have ones that are actually " u23 " ??? haha

[GO AWAY]

Anything exciting happening at the Stags ?

[The Cookaburra Kid]

have heard a few rumours circulating in town GO AWAY that they have splashed the cash this season, not sure on how etc though

[Football lover]

Anything exciting happening at the Stags ?



Scott Bailie no longer the coach at singo

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Scott Bailie no longer the coach at singo

Are the stags looking for the former boss to come back?

[The Postman]

have heard a few rumours circulating in town GO AWAY that they have splashed the cash this season, not sure on how etc though

Haven't heard any "name" players that have signed up, but they must have recruited some players because I'm led to believe there will be a fair amount of player turnover once again next season.

[seldom]

Are the stags looking for the former boss to come back?

Surely not

[The Postman]

Scott Bailie no longer the coach at singo

Reason why?

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Haven't heard any "name" players that have signed up, but they must have recruited some players because I'm led to believe there will be a fair amount of player turnover once again next season.

I heard there was a few internal issues going on with the club, hopefully all these issues can be sorted and the stags can get back on the pitch and be somewhat competitive, hopefully no fundraising was intended to pay for players?

[Imyourhero]

So not much news from Southy? Will they have a new look team?
Lakes gearing up to be frontrunners ,Wallsend will be aiming for promotion too I'd imagine but Lakes seem the most promising. Really suprised by the lack of info around southy though, you'd think they'd want to bounce back straight away.

[Stanley]

So not much news from Southy? Will they have a new look team?
Lakes gearing up to be frontrunners ,Wallsend will be aiming for promotion too I'd imagine but Lakes seem the most promising. Really suprised by the lack of info around southy though, you'd think they'd want to bounce back straight away.

With Forever Brad oops red retired and an exodus of players don't expect too much

[ForeverRed]

With Forever Brad oops red retired and an exodus of players don't expect too much
Sorry to deflate your ego Stanley but everyone knows who I am, can you give us something more unique

[GO AWAY]

Scott Bailie no longer the coach at singo

No surprise

[GO AWAY]

I heard there was a few internal issues going on with the club, hopefully all these issues can be sorted and the stags can get back on the pitch and be somewhat competitive, hopefully no fundraising was intended to pay for players?

Not sure of any internal issues although i may be wrong

Michael Baillie to Thornton and Tim Davies to Wallsend, Nathan White not there, was just hopnig they would have some name players coming.

Love to see the stags up the top or thereabouts of Newfm again.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Not sure of any internal issues although i may be wrong

Michael Baillie to Thornton and Tim Davies to Wallsend, Nathan White not there, was just hopnig they would have some name players coming.

Love to see the stags up the top or thereabouts of Newfm again.


Hmmm some big losses by the sounds of it? any ideas on how many they had turn up at the trials?

its been a few years now for the stags, maybe its time to look internally and rebuild the youth?

Nathan White whos that? the youngish guy in 23s?

You have connections with stags GO AWAY?

[GO AWAY]

Hmmm some big losses by the sounds of it? any ideas on how many they had turn up at the trials?

its been a few years now for the stags, maybe its time to look internally and rebuild the youth?

Nathan White whos that? the youngish guy in 23s?

You have connections with stags GO AWAY?

Not no more mate unfortunately, living on the east side of the lake these days, so cant commit much, but they are my old local team and would love to see them go well

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Not no more mate unfortunately, living on the east side of the lake these days, so cant commit much, but they are my old local team and would love to see them go well



maybe they need a few old heads to go back and help out? maybe the current regime isn't pushing the club forward enough..... around the traps always hearing of the internal issues with players etc

[prawnhead]

Not no more mate unfortunately, living on the east side of the lake these days, so cant commit much, but they are my old local team and would love to see them go well

I remember the days of Stagforlife - he was a character and loved the Stags :)

[GO AWAY]

I remember the days of Stagforlife - he was a character and loved the Stags :)

Stagforlife was a trouble maker :)
Old heads that are there are fine, just either use to running a junior club or a club the way it was run 30years ago, unfortunately, you cant run clubs in the top two tiers like that anymore.

[prawnhead]

Stagforlife was a trouble maker :)
Old heads that are there are fine, just either use to running a junior club or a club the way it was run 30years ago, unfortunately, you cant run clubs in the top two tiers like that anymore.

I always admired his passion for the Stags :). Still think that a club in the top league needs representation out in that western area of the Lake. Hopefully one day the Stags can step up.

[GO AWAY]

I always admired his passion for the Stags :). Still think that a club in the top league needs representation out in that western area of the Lake. Hopefully one day the Stags can step up.

Especially with a heap of Toronto Juniors around the 17-19yo bracket playing NPL seniors already at clubs like Olympic, Lambton, Azzuri, Valentine others at Kahibah and Lakes ant toronto juniors established at clubs like Wheelhouse, Cowburn ( both ), Bowling ( ret ), Remington ( westlakes ), chiefy, mcpherson, edwards etc etc im sure theres a heap more but unfortunately the way it is at the moment they have to travel in town way.
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[The Cookaburra Kid]

Especially with a heap of Toronto Juniors around the 17-19yo bracket playing NPL seniors already at clubs like Olympic, Lambton, Azzuri, Valentine others at Kahibah and Lakes ant toronto juniors established at clubs like Wheelhouse, Cowburn ( both ), Bowling ( ret ), Remington ( westlakes ), chiefy, mcpherson, edwards etc etc im sure theres a heap more but unfortunately the way it is at the moment they have to travel in town way.
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which is understandable, every kid wants to win, if the local club isn't going in the right direction why wouldn't they leave? I'M sure you are well aware of these reasons GO AWAY, as you have passion for the stags, maybe its time to speak up and tell the a few home truths?

There is some talent running around in the 17s this year that people have noticed and spoken about, lets hope they can fend of interest from other clubs.

maybe its time for change? If a president or committee sacks the manager he initially appointed, maybe he should go as well?

[The Postman]

Especially with a heap of Toronto Juniors around the 17-19yo bracket playing NPL seniors already at clubs like Olympic, Lambton, Azzuri, Valentine others at Kahibah and Lakes ant toronto juniors established at clubs like Wheelhouse, Cowburn ( both ), Bowling ( ret ), Remington ( westlakes ), chiefy, mcpherson, edwards etc etc im sure theres a heap more but unfortunately the way it is at the moment they have to travel in town way.
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Hmmm

GK - Tom Pullin
RB - Ben Hay
CB - Nick Cowburn
CB - Carl Thornton
LB - Liam Thornton
DM - Peter McPherson
DM - Jobe Wheelhouse
RAM - Luke Remington
CAM - Blake Glennie
LAM - Daniel Minors
ST - Jason Cowburn

Coached by Graham Jones and Chris Bowling

Not to mention the dozens of local kids playing NPL 19s/22s in town.

One can dream...

[Imyourhero]

When does the draw usually get released to clubs?

[EH9]

When does the draw usually get released to clubs?

Next week.

[magician]

Hmmm

GK - Tom Pullin
RB - Ben Hay
CB - Nick Cowburn
CB - Carl Thornton
LB - Liam Thornton
DM - Peter McPherson
DM - Jobe Wheelhouse
RAM - Luke Remington
CAM - Blake Glennie
LAM - Daniel Minors
ST - Jason Cowburn

Coached by Graham Jones and Chris Bowling

Not to mention the dozens of local kids playing NPL 19s/22s in town.

One can dream...

Brad waters lived out that way aswel

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Hmmm

GK - Tom Pullin
RB - Ben Hay
CB - Nick Cowburn
CB - Carl Thornton
LB - Liam Thornton
DM - Peter McPherson
DM - Jobe Wheelhouse
RAM - Luke Remington
CAM - Blake Glennie
LAM - Daniel Minors
ST - Jason Cowburn

Coached by Graham Jones and Chris Bowling

Not to mention the dozens of local kids playing NPL 19s/22s in town.

One can dream...




not a bad side on paper? wonder if they could afford to get those players back? heard there current squad is on high wage demands for a club that isn't performing? surely this must be looked at....

one of the best managers once said- we had a good side on paper, unfortunately the game is played on grass

[GO AWAY]

not a bad side on paper? wonder if they could afford to get those players back? heard there current squad is on high wage demands for a club that isn't performing? surely this must be looked at....

one of the best managers once said- we had a good side on paper, unfortunately the game is played on grass

Couldnt afford to get many back, trust me, need to build a culture where elite kids want to play there for their local club, unfortunately the next tier of kids coming from U16D isnt going to be the future of the stags, with a few exceptions now and again of course.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Couldnt afford to get many back, trust me, need to build a culture where elite kids want to play there for their local club, unfortunately the next tier of kids coming from U16D isnt going to be the future of the stags, with a few exceptions now and again of course.

what can be done though GO AWAY, surely the disappointing results must kick them into gear, the jnrs and snrs need to sit down and have a good hard look at themselves, from reports they don't get on at all? any reason for this?

its sad times for a club when people just sit there and watch the club decline

[GO AWAY]

what can be done though GO AWAY, surely the disappointing results must kick them into gear, the jnrs and snrs need to sit down and have a good hard look at themselves, from reports they don't get on at all? any reason for this?

its sad times for a club when people just sit there and watch the club decline

Mate, years ago when halpo was there, they took in the Morisett and Westlakes clubs as feeder clubs, done coaching clinics, had " a " graded nominate teams at each of the three clubs in U13-14-15, had coach the coaches nights with the Juniors, in which halpo coached drills to aspiring junior coaches, unfortunately when halpo left plus some other board members, it all stopped. The club had the right ideas back then but deferring opinions and a few uuum uuum other people joining the club has seen it in decline ever since, what it needs is someone " like back then " go to the meetings, get fully on board and get it up to where it should be. Wont take one person, it will take 10-20, but needs ONE person to do the recruiting. No good people talking the talk and then going in half hearted. You either want the club to excel or you dont.....

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Mate, years ago when halpo was there, they took in the Morisett and Westlakes clubs as feeder clubs, done coaching clinics, had " a " graded nominate teams at each of the three clubs in U13-14-15, had coach the coaches nights with the Juniors, in which halpo coached drills to aspiring junior coaches, unfortunately when halpo left plus some other board members, it all stopped. The club had the right ideas back then but deferring opinions and a few uuum uuum other people joining the club has seen it in decline ever since, what it needs is someone " like back then " go to the meetings, get fully on board and get it up to where it should be. Wont take one person, it will take 10-20, but needs ONE person to do the recruiting. No good people talking the talk and then going in half hearted. You either want the club to excel or you dont.....



yeah mate halpo and a few others done good for the club and people who didn't understand football drove a few key people out, the stags use to be a decent club, Bull was running the show at one point and was doing a good job.... Seems like a family affair at present?

Maybe they need to go back and sit down with certain people or ask for help? surely there is people willing to help, its alarming when people that have coached there or offered to help get turned down and then you see them excel at other clubs!

[winner]

yeah mate halpo and a few others done good for the club and people who didn't understand football drove a few key people out, the stags use to be a decent club, Bull was running the show at one point and was doing a good job.... Seems like a family affair at present?

Maybe they need to go back and sit down with certain people or ask for help? surely there is people willing to help, its alarming when people that have coached there or offered to help get turned down and then you see them excel at other clubs!

Who do you see from there as having excelled at other clubs in recent times cookaburra? Not being sarcastic here, am interested in your response

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Who do you see from there as having excelled at other clubs in recent times cookaburra? Not being sarcastic here, am interested in your response


was talking about players and coaches, the names can go on from what has come through Toronto as mentioned above from the Postman- I remember Jim Foley coaching out there also?

would you like any other players that have come out of Toronto- Bowling? Rudder? Metcalfe- use to score for fun



was more questioning why the let them go, or simply fall through the cracks?

[GO AWAY]

was talking about players and coaches, the names can go on from what has come through Toronto as mentioned above from the Postman- I remember Jim Foley coaching out there also?

would you like any other players that have come out of Toronto- Bowling? Rudder? Metcalfe- use to score for fun





was more questioning why the let them go, or simply fall through the cracks?

Aaaaaaaah Ricki Metcalfe, could play, i know he was from Toronto, but i think came through Magic Juniors ???

Mcbreen was there as well but Edgy Junior ??

Troy Halpin, Steve Eagleton ........... biggest injustice of them all, losing eags

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Aaaaaaaah Ricki Metcalfe, could play, i know he was from Toronto, but i think came through Magic Juniors ???

Mcbreen was there as well but Edgy Junior ??

Troy Halpin, Steve Eagleton ........... biggest injustice of them all, losing eags



couldn't agree with you more GO AWAY!!! Ricki was top shelf, is he still running around at all, wouldn't mind him lacing the boots up at Cooks Hill for a cameo performance

[GO AWAY]

couldn't agree with you more GO AWAY!!! Ricki was top shelf, is he still running around at all, wouldn't mind him lacing the boots up at Cooks Hill for a cameo performance

You seem to be very passionate about the gold and blue mate, maybe you should get the ball rolling

[The Cookaburra Kid]

You seem to be very passionate about the gold and blue mate, maybe you should get the ball rolling


seems as though there has been many failed attempts before? there is plenty of passion around the time from what I've heard

[The Postman]

I will just respond to all the previous posts in one shot.

- Firstly how can the Juniors compete when rival clubs are paying the Rego of 15 year olds to play in an A Grade competition. Which is a whole separate issue in itself.

- The issues of the Juniors and the Seniors, I am struggling to see a time when both clubs will have any kind of positive relationship. I'm not laying blame to anyone in particular but some change needs to happen soon, petty grudges need to be forgotten or otherwise Morriset will soon take its place in the top leagues.

- I can assure you there are many talented kids playing at the Juniors and Seniors that love the Stags and want to play First Grade one day and there are just as many that love the club playing in town. The difference is the patience to wait for the club to finally come good, some kids leave at the first sign of interest from NPL clubs, others wait it out but eventually leave because nothing changes in the Seniors.

- The rumours of the Stags paying overs on guys for next year could be true, I don't know any of the people they have signed. But from what I've been told by the some of the 2015 playing group they are still waiting for their cheques for this season.

- As a supporter it is tough because every year there is a new coach with a whole new team of guys with some you have never heard of. They are keeping the coach this year but with a host of players leaving the club once again we are back at square one.

- A lot of the players of all ages who are leaving are local juniors who have come on in the last 2/3 years but for one reason or another they have had enough and are leaving. Talent isn't the issue either - Wallsend, Lakes, Edgeworth and Cooks Hill are the clubs some of the guys are going to.

- One can only speculate as to what the real issues are at the club. Even local coaches like Graham Jones now at Belswans have come and gone and the young 23s coach from this year has followed another local Chiefy to Cooks Hill First Grade.

- I don't know what talking on here will even accomplish but they will at least get my $5 entry plus a couple cans of drink every home game next year.

[football_macigian23]

I will just respond to all the previous posts in one shot.

- Firstly how can the Juniors compete when rival clubs are paying the Rego of 15 year olds to play in an A Grade competition. Which is a whole separate issue in itself.


Who is paying U15 year olds rego? That's insane and completely wrong!

[LongSufferingFan]

Who is paying U15 year olds rego? That's insane and completely wrong!

I agree. Postman if your going to make statements like that you need to name the Club. Having a kid in that age group I can state I have not heard of such a thing. I would be disgusted as well if true and the club should be named and shamed.

[football_macigian23]

I agree. Postman if your going to make statements like that you need to name the Club. Having a kid in that age group I can state I have not heard of such a thing. I would be disgusted as well if true and the club should be named and shamed.

We wonder why our 1st graders demand lots of money when U15s are getting their rego paid.. What a joke

If it is true, the club needs to have a good look at themselves and realise no other club in Newcastle would even think about paying kids registration costs

[Why Blue]

Who is paying U15 year olds rego? That's insane and completely wrong!

School yard chat could confirm this, one I know of with a 2nd that I suspect, worse in my opinion is talk from club that kid will play 1st grade in 2016......reality is that both these kids struggled this year in NPL U15 and I know one couldn't get an U17 spot, suspect same for the other

Club is inner city new fm, happily putting squads on wed page

But as I have stated before this shit goes on, is it parent or club driven ???? I suspect parent. I know that not one new fm club approached me looking for my son to play with them, so I suspect if I wanted this I would need to approach ???? Much better to tell grand parents that johnny is playing first grade...........lol

[Premy]

You lot are kidding right.
Any Club paying Kids rego and can comfortably afford it they should be congratulated not condemned. I would much rather see Kids getting to play for free rather than hearing stories of former hacks and premadonnas getting paid $800-$1000 per game.

[NewyTy]

School yard chat could confirm this, one I know of with a 2nd that I suspect, worse in my opinion is talk from club that kid will play 1st grade in 2016......reality is that both these kids struggled this year in NPL U15 and I know one couldn't get an U17 spot, suspect same for the other

Club is inner city new fm, happily putting squads on wed page

But as I have stated before this shit goes on, is it parent or club driven ???? I suspect parent. I know that not one new fm club approached me looking for my son to play with them, so I suspect if I wanted this I would need to approach ???? Much better to tell grand parents that johnny is playing first grade...........lol

Inner city NewFM club with squad on their website? I wonder just which club that might be??? Could be the same club that took a former NPL Youth player last year and allowed him to star in their first grade squad. I'm indifferent to the idea of paying 15-17 yr olds but I don't feel like clubs should be bagged out for doing so. These young guys may have struggled in NPL but could find their feet in NewFM and re-build their confidence and that I applaud. IMO, it's good for the league that some younger players might be playing first grade next season.

[Imyourhero]

Any news on the draw for next season?

[The Cookaburra Kid]

School yard chat could confirm this, one I know of with a 2nd that I suspect, worse in my opinion is talk from club that kid will play 1st grade in 2016......reality is that both these kids struggled this year in NPL U15 and I know one couldn't get an U17 spot, suspect same for the other

Club is inner city new fm, happily putting squads on wed page

But as I have stated before this shit goes on, is it parent or club driven ???? I suspect parent. I know that not one new fm club approached me looking for my son to play with them, so I suspect if I wanted this I would need to approach ???? Much better to tell grand parents that johnny is playing first grade...........lol



the squad on the website? generally list all players that are potentially in the top 30, doesn't define what grade they will be playing, as you said some of those 15 year old could end up in the 17s and 19s with a pathway/aim to cut the mustard in first grade

[EH9]

Any news on the draw for next season?

Draw released today apparently.

[GO AWAY]

Whos coaching singleton ? Have heard Baillie has gone from yet another club, bet the club payed big money for some players and still couldnt make the semis in two years, wonder if they have any money left, i heard they made a big big offer / play for goodchild. Dan Bartlett has gone to Kahibah

[curious_fan]

DRAFT draw was issued last night as it usually has a few tweaks made over the next few weeks as final details are made by clubs.

120512051206120612071208

FFA Cup Dates are also set down as:

Round 1 Sat/Sun 20/21st Feb and
Round 2 Sat/Sun 27/28th Feb

[NewyTy]

DRAFT draw was issued last night as it usually has a few tweaks made over the next few weeks as final details are made by clubs.

120512051206120612071208

FFA Cup Dates are also set down as:

Round 1 Sat/Sun 20/21st Feb and
Round 2 Sat/Sun 27/28th Feb

Great work but there's two pages uploaded twice. Rd 5-8 and 13-16 are missing. Looks as though the Easter Weekend will be good. Any idea why Westy's home games are all at 4pm?

[Dontknowmuch]

its not a bad idea, gives the committee a chance to sleep in no 9am ko's for them

[NewyTy]

its not a bad idea, gives the committee a chance to sleep in no 9am ko's for them

Now it makes sense to me. Maybe more teams should look at the idea as trying to get to Singleton at 9:15am isn't the greatest thing in the world.

[Imyourhero]

Now it makes sense to me. Maybe more teams should look at the idea as trying to get to Singleton at 9:15am isn't the greatest thing in the world.

What about singo getting to newy every fortnight?

[NewyTy]

What about singo getting to newy every fortnight?

You make a good point. Part and parcel of playing for them I guess. They start with a few away games too which will be tough.

[Mitchy]

Bye is silly

Promote Bero

[The Postman]

So with the likelihood that in 2017 all NewFM clubs will have to be able to meet the NPL criterial or face the axe.

What clubs are in trouble?

What is even included in the criteria? Enclosed ground, juniors, money situation?

[De-Champ]

Wait and see

[Zico]

So with the likelihood that in 2017 all NewFM clubs will have to be able to meet the NPL criterial or face the axe.

What clubs are in trouble?

What is even included in the criteria? Enclosed ground, juniors, money situation?
If they do stick to the plan then it will most likely be the end of current promotion / relegation format (I can see a 3 -5 year license handed out then reapply) and also the end of the NEWFM in it's current structure.
I actually think it will be a great step forward for the game if this does occur as having promotion / relegation in this current format doesn't work, how can we have the current format when only 3 clubs can be promoted from NEWFM and the possibility that no relegation if the Jets come last? Poor format.
12 Team NPL is the way to go.

[curious_fan]

Great work but there's two pages uploaded twice. Rd 5-8 and 13-16 are missing. Looks as though the Easter Weekend will be good. Any idea why Westy's home games are all at 4pm?

Sorry, was posting inbetween boss walking past. 12101211 Pages 2 & 4 now attached

[curious_fan]

The information to be presented dealt with some recommendations Zico:

Licences were suggested at 3 years which I believe means if you dont have a licence starting 2017 then you can apply at any stage but wont be eligible to be invited into NewFm until 2020 but I might be wrong there.

Promotion/Relegation between NPL & NewFm to remain (albeit Jets can not be demoted that is as I understand an FFA directive) but will be based on a club championship format yet to be decided.

Only clubs with an NPL Licence will be allowed in NewFM, so every club will be eligible for promotion (or you wont be in NewFM).

How many teams in a competition will depend on approved NPL Licence numbers, and it has been said even holding an NPL Licence does not guarantee a spot in those comps, nor is there a guarantee NewFM will exist if insufficient numbers gain their NPL Licence. They listed a few pages of possible scenarios based on various possible licence holding numbers but basically no one will know until around Oct 2016 how many clubs will be in a position to play NPL/NewFM.

Ground Criteria as I understood was to be reviewed by Northern and hopefully presented next Tuesday but has not yet been released. FFA themselves do not give clear guidance on Ground/Facility criteria that I have ever found, issues like Player Races need reviewing as at some grounds it is actually a design issue because of placement of canteens and referees rooms. Imagine Singleton here....... how do you build a player race all the way to their referees room? Belswans how do you build one and still allow easy access to canteen?

Lighting SHOULD have been a concern for Northern many years ago but again clubs can not just front $150K in a year so that will be an interesting call. The standard across NewFM generally with lighting is exceptionally poor.

I think ground criteria may become quite basic at a compulsory level - Fenced Ground, Ticket Box, Dressing shed and referees rooms standards, first aid standards, duty officer numbers, scoreboard and a few others. Then a list of preferable items will be wanted to decide between clubs if needed - covered dug outs (not just seats on the sideline), player race, 100 Lux plus lighting etc

I think for some clubs the immediate issue to deal with is the additional junior sides they must have in place for 2017. It will mean being proactive in the junior community and also some serious diplomacy with surrounding junior clubs that may see it as "stealing" their players. But it also brings too huge issues into play - Volunteer numbers and ground availability.

How do Wallsend deal with not being able to access The Gardens on a Sat? Do you play games every Sunday expecting volunteers never to have a weekend off? Do you move them to another ground (not even sure Northern would consider this option)? DO you start at 8am and play seven games straight and finish 1st grade at 10pm that night?

Or can Toronto get approval for an additional 2 days a month access for games with league in charge of the ground?

What impact does losing Kahibah No 1 for an entire Sat every 2 weeks mean for the juniors sides?

It quickly becomes more than just about finding 15 players for each age. And that doesnt even consider the changes needed for clubs now suddenly needing C Licenced caches, a B Licence Technical Director, all juniors coaches needing particular levels as minimums. It is a huge issues for every club because suddenly they are forced to compete for a limited number of people who are qualified (and actually decent at the job).

To all Club Presidents in NewFM........ good luck this season, glad Im not you.

[Goatscheese]

If they do stick to the plan then it will most likely be the end of current promotion / relegation format (I can see a 3 -5 year license handed out then reapply) and also the end of the NEWFM in it's current structure.

If they make it that all NEWFM clubs must have the same standards as NPL clubs then it makes the promotion/relegation format work better, certainly ensures that the club that is finishing top gets promoted (excepting the issue with the Jets)

[Zico]

If they make it that all NEWFM clubs must have the same standards as NPL clubs then it makes the promotion/relegation format work better, certainly ensures that the club that is finishing top gets promoted (excepting the issue with the Jets)
That's exactly what I was getting at.

[Goatscheese]

That's exactly what I was getting at.

Oh thought you were supporting the idea of ending promotion/relegation.

[Retro Jet]

If they make it that all NEWFM clubs must have the same standards as NPL clubs then it makes the promotion/relegation format work better, certainly ensures that the club that is finishing top gets promoted (excepting the issue with the Jets)

All this certainly widens the gap between ZPL and NewFM too.
I love it. It's certainly got us motivated.

He not busy being born is busy dying.
R Zimmerman

[front2]

Being a former Cookers player I really think some people posting on this thread should be a bit more transparent with their comments and not make ridiculous statements because of being uninformed.. Pinocchio comes to mind. Get on with your own short falls and man up. Ffs put your efforts into getting your own backyard tidy.

[MFKS]

That should be the aim big time

The NPL and New FM should be bigger standard than the ZPL and forever getting wider

[Zico]

Oh thought you were supporting the idea of ending promotion/relegation.
In the current format I am for scrapping promotion / relegation as it doesn't work.
I think that there are a few options for promotion and relegation but like you said, until all clubs are up to standard then it shouldn't be considered.

[GO AWAY]

The information to be presented dealt with some recommendations Zico:

Licences were suggested at 3 years which I believe means if you dont have a licence starting 2017 then you can apply at any stage but wont be eligible to be invited into NewFm until 2020 but I might be wrong there.

Promotion/Relegation between NPL & NewFm to remain (albeit Jets can not be demoted that is as I understand an FFA directive) but will be based on a club championship format yet to be decided.

Only clubs with an NPL Licence will be allowed in NewFM, so every club will be eligible for promotion (or you wont be in NewFM).

How many teams in a competition will depend on approved NPL Licence numbers, and it has been said even holding an NPL Licence does not guarantee a spot in those comps, nor is there a guarantee NewFM will exist if insufficient numbers gain their NPL Licence. They listed a few pages of possible scenarios based on various possible licence holding numbers but basically no one will know until around Oct 2016 how many clubs will be in a position to play NPL/NewFM.

Ground Criteria as I understood was to be reviewed by Northern and hopefully presented next Tuesday but has not yet been released. FFA themselves do not give clear guidance on Ground/Facility criteria that I have ever found, issues like Player Races need reviewing as at some grounds it is actually a design issue because of placement of canteens and referees rooms. Imagine Singleton here....... how do you build a player race all the way to their referees room? Belswans how do you build one and still allow easy access to canteen?

Lighting SHOULD have been a concern for Northern many years ago but again clubs can not just front $150K in a year so that will be an interesting call. The standard across NewFM generally with lighting is exceptionally poor.

I think ground criteria may become quite basic at a compulsory level - Fenced Ground, Ticket Box, Dressing shed and referees rooms standards, first aid standards, duty officer numbers, scoreboard and a few others. Then a list of preferable items will be wanted to decide between clubs if needed - covered dug outs (not just seats on the sideline), player race, 100 Lux plus lighting etc

I think for some clubs the immediate issue to deal with is the additional junior sides they must have in place for 2017. It will mean being proactive in the junior community and also some serious diplomacy with surrounding junior clubs that may see it as "stealing" their players. But it also brings too huge issues into play - Volunteer numbers and ground availability.

How do Wallsend deal with not being able to access The Gardens on a Sat? Do you play games every Sunday expecting volunteers never to have a weekend off? Do you move them to another ground (not even sure Northern would consider this option)? DO you start at 8am and play seven games straight and finish 1st grade at 10pm that night?

Or can Toronto get approval for an additional 2 days a month access for games with league in charge of the ground?

What impact does losing Kahibah No 1 for an entire Sat every 2 weeks mean for the juniors sides?

It quickly becomes more than just about finding 15 players for each age. And that doesnt even consider the changes needed for clubs now suddenly needing C Licenced caches, a B Licence Technical Director, all juniors coaches needing particular levels as minimums. It is a huge issues for every club because suddenly they are forced to compete for a limited number of people who are qualified (and actually decent at the job).

To all Club Presidents in NewFM........ good luck this season, glad Im not you.

Just on Toronto ..... League is NOT in control of the ground, there is a Toronto Ovals Board which if the soccer fraternity was focused and forward enough, they can have the same amount of people on the board as the scorps, the problem is, the deciding vote on the ground usage is usually determined by the CEO of Toronto Workers Club who is a big scorps supporter, both in $$$$ and in general. If the stags want more control of Lyall Peacock Oval they have to be aggressive, get seats on the ovals board and get in the workers clubs good books like we were years ago. Lyall Peacock is honestly now just as good a ground as ANY in newfm or NPL, oversowing of the ground, new canteen facilities, new toilket facilities which are at the " old main entrance " with new turnstiles etc, loads of in ground parking etc etc......... stags board need to push these facilities to the Workies and get some bigger soccer matches out there .......... or make NNSW aware of how good it is out there now.......... get off your $$#%^% boys

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Just on Toronto ..... League is NOT in control of the ground, there is a Toronto Ovals Board which if the soccer fraternity was focused and forward enough, they can have the same amount of people on the board as the scorps, the problem is, the deciding vote on the ground usage is usually determined by the CEO of Toronto Workers Club who is a big scorps supporter, both in $$$$ and in general. If the stags want more control of Lyall Peacock Oval they have to be aggressive, get seats on the ovals board and get in the workers clubs good books like we were years ago. Lyall Peacock is honestly now just as good a ground as ANY in newfm or NPL, oversowing of the ground, new canteen facilities, new toilket facilities which are at the " old main entrance " with new turnstiles etc, loads of in ground parking etc etc......... stags board need to push these facilities to the Workies and get some bigger soccer matches out there .......... or make NNSW aware of how good it is out there now.......... get off your $$#%^% boys


last season when I was out there, the ground was in very good shape and heard good things about the facilities and pitch all season...

GO AWAY, they may need you to get on the ovals board and push the club in the right direction? sniff a coup in place?

[GO AWAY]

last season when I was out there, the ground was in very good shape and heard good things about the facilities and pitch all season...

GO AWAY, they may need you to get on the ovals board and push the club in the right direction? sniff a coup in place?

Not a chance sorry...

[De-Champ]

Just on Toronto ..... League is NOT in control of the ground, there is a Toronto Ovals Board which if the soccer fraternity was focused and forward enough, they can have the same amount of people on the board as the scorps, the problem is, the deciding vote on the ground usage is usually determined by the CEO of Toronto Workers Club who is a big scorps supporter, both in $$$$ and in general. If the stags want more control of Lyall Peacock Oval they have to be aggressive, get seats on the ovals board and get in the workers clubs good books like we were years ago. Lyall Peacock is honestly now just as good a ground as ANY in newfm or NPL, oversowing of the ground, new canteen facilities, new toilket facilities which are at the " old main entrance " with new turnstiles etc, loads of in ground parking etc etc......... stags board need to push these facilities to the Workies and get some bigger soccer matches out there .......... or make NNSW aware of how good it is out there now.......... get off your $$#%^% boys

If only it was that simple.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

If only it was that simple.

always the case, seems simple but requires the efforts of many....... times like that people need to get together and get the club moving forward

[GO AWAY]

If only it was that simple.

It can be easy, id suggest, someone from Toronto Awaba contact David Eland or Nisbet ( if he is still there ) and put forward a case for some games to maybe puched to Lyall Peacock through the summer, league is a winter sport, these days there are more options then the Football facility or Magic Park

[De-Champ]

It can be easy, id suggest, someone from Toronto Awaba contact David Eland or Nisbet ( if he is still there ) and put forward a case for some games to maybe puched to Lyall Peacock through the summer, league is a winter sport, these days there are more options then the Football facility or Magic Park

And if the answer is no....which it probably would be..... not that simple.

[The Postman]

And if the answer is no....which it probably would be..... not that simple.

So better not try then...Give ambitious people with a plan a go and who knows what could happen.

[GO AWAY]

So better not try then...Give ambitious people with a plan a go and who knows what could happen.

Good to hear, something is happening out there by the sounds of it Postman, by the way, how is the recruiting going for the stags for 2016, are they looking ok / given they have lost Baillie, Davies, White to name a few ?

[The Postman]

Good to hear, something is happening out there by the sounds of it Postman, by the way, how is the recruiting going for the stags for 2016, are they looking ok / given they have lost Baillie, Davies, White to name a few ?

Unfortunately don't know of anything happening.

Just a had peak at their website
D.March
C.Blomfield
?
?
O.Mostyn
L.Jovcevski
C.Prebble
B.Redman
?
N.Roberts
H.Jensen
J.Cowie
?
?
?
?
D.Cheetham
A.Davis
C.Brown
?
T.Amos
S.Hamisi
M.Clarke
T.Stone
D.Williams
?
W.Cadden
I.Roberts
?
?
?
?

[GO AWAY]

So two genuine first graders i can see ??? Mostyn and Redman ???

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Unfortunately don't know of anything happening.

Just a had peak at their website
D.March
C.Blomfield
?
?
O.Mostyn
L.Jovcevski
C.Prebble
B.Redman
?
N.Roberts
H.Jensen
J.Cowie
?
?
?
?
D.Cheetham
A.Davis
C.Brown
?
T.Amos
S.Hamisi
M.Clarke
T.Stone
D.Williams
?
W.Cadden
I.Roberts
?
?
?
?


remember watching the stags twice last night and only can remember 4 names? Roberts, L.Jovcevski, Mostyn and Redman

I heard along the grapevine that Mostyn and Redman wasn't playing? any news postman

[The Cookaburra Kid]

So two genuine first graders i can see ??? Mostyn and Redman ???



nick Roberts scored a few goals for them last year?

[The Postman]

remember watching the stags twice last night and only can remember 4 names? Roberts, L.Jovcevski, Mostyn and Redman

I heard along the grapevine that Mostyn and Redman wasn't playing? any news postman

Owen is not returning, massive loss.

[EH9]

I was led to believe that Reddo was not playing either.

[football_macigian23]

How did it all go tonight?

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Owen is not returning, massive loss.


Owen will be a massive loss if its true, clear standout the two times I seen him and highly regarded around the comp.... has he been poached or getting off the sinking ship? obvs didn't get offered the big money the younger ones have been promised

[curious_fan]

How did it all go tonight?

If your referring to the club meeting it mostly went over with surprising ease. The move from 22's to 20's was a point of contention with some NPL clubs and the concept of promotion/regulation based on a club championship was good in concept but now may exclude the very youngest teams.

A lot will hinge on late 2016 when those NewFm willing and able to apply for NPL Licences are assessed, the final number of NPL Licences clubs will determine competition numbers, if promotion/relegation will even exist, if there will be a second tier (Eland apparently did flag a third option of NewFm but with no availability for promotion during the 3 year licence period).


personally I like the idea of spreading some of those talented 21/22's guy around other clubs either in lower NPL or NEwFM sides. Stop some clubs hoarding players on the "chance"they may get some 1st Grade time.

I am a little confused about the claim that an u14 team would be pressured towards the end of a season unduly because the club may be regulated. With 1st Grade being weighted so heavily (50% plus) blame will still lay with the senior sides so the only place such pressure would appear was from the club committee itself in which case they should be publically named and shamed for doing so. Make all the teams feel pat of a club by contributing to the clubs eventual successes.

It is going to be very curious as to if any NewFm clubs aside from Lakes and Sth Cardiff (who already hold NPL Licences) can step up or if we will have two comps with no link between them. Or indeed as Eland pointed out Northern just have a single NPL Comp and then it drops to ID Football.

[football_macigian23]

If your referring to the club meeting it mostly went over with surprising ease. The move from 22's to 20's was a point of contention with some NPL clubs and the concept of promotion/regulation based on a club championship was good in concept but now may exclude the very youngest teams.

A lot will hinge on late 2016 when those NewFm willing and able to apply for NPL Licences are assessed, the final number of NPL Licences clubs will determine competition numbers, if promotion/relegation will even exist, if there will be a second tier (Eland apparently did flag a third option of NewFm but with no availability for promotion during the 3 year licence period).


personally I like the idea of spreading some of those talented 21/22's guy around other clubs either in lower NPL or NEwFM sides. Stop some clubs hoarding players on the "chance"they may get some 1st Grade time.

I am a little confused about the claim that an u14 team would be pressured towards the end of a season unduly because the club may be regulated. With 1st Grade being weighted so heavily (50% plus) blame will still lay with the senior sides so the only place such pressure would appear was from the club committee itself in which case they should be publically named and shamed for doing so. Make all the teams feel pat of a club by contributing to the clubs eventual successes.

It is going to be very curious as to if any NewFm clubs aside from Lakes and Sth Cardiff (who already hold NPL Licences) can step up or if we will have two comps with no link between them. Or indeed as Eland pointed out Northern just have a single NPL Comp and then it drops to ID Football.

Will be very interesting either way! What was the feel about bringing 13s up into the NewFM?

[curious_fan]

Will be very interesting either way! What was the feel about bringing 13s up into the NewFM?

I was told it just didn't get commented on, so I am not sure if that's a positive response or a negative one haha..... prob more just accepting a reality that its going to happen and clubs need to deal with it. Certainly is interesting in terms of clubs planning and finding all those extra volunteers.

[The Postman]

So at the moment with only Lakes and Southy able to meet the NPL criteria what do NNSW do, because at the moment the current promotion/relegation model doesn't work.

1. Promote Lakes and Southy and scrap the NewFM completely moving the other 9 teams into a revamped Zone League system, effectively killing promotion and relegation to the NPL.

2. After the conclusion of next season leave whatever teams are left in NewFM and say to them "You have 3 years to get your club up to NPL standard or you will be back to the ZPL". Not the most ideal scenario, possibly punishing a club that is NPL ready by not allowing them promotion to NPL for 3 years.

3. Drop whatever teams from NewFM that don't or can't meet NPL criteria to ZPL and have a smaller NPL2 division with clubs either already meeting the criteria or have a plan in place to meet it within 3 years.

4. Ease up on the criteria and have promotion/relegation flowing through all 6 divisions with ease.

Will be very interesting to what ever solution they choose next year.

[goaliepersempre]

im still an avid believer that both competitions NPL and Newfm have suffered re no more reserve grade football... (yes you have the exceptions of players..) but where is the club feel! ( I guess some clubs have addressed that with there having All Age Teams.. (but it just seems to me they just want to follow and have the comp like in Sydney) but the difference is the pool of players resources etc...

yes in areas there has been a boost in some playing standards, but so to has the money sky rocketed what people get paid!...


making things professional is great and show it should! but dont loose the club and club feelings!....as the way it keeps going the pressure on club volunteers gets harder and harder each year!!


there should be promotion relegation across the entire format from NPL to what zl3 is it?

from the top league in switzerland to the bottom, we have to apply each year for a licence for a specific competition.. ( it happens to even those in professional football, relegated although not being last because of issues like finance etc.. special circumstances are given to some clubs re facilities but must be improved in a specific time frame... ( I.e if plans are lodged and are just waiting to be approved and built etc re a grandstand or or or)

this whole thing of 3 year licenses and etc seems alot like we are looking at an american style sporting world!


football clubs need to be just that! from juniors to senior and veteran football.. ive seen many a club that had a thriving club base get ruined! re new inforced measures!..

plus the feel of games, (like mitchy) I remember back in the day Loving but also hating going to bero.. you always knew you where in for a good game.. them know exactly how to play on that field and the side of the ground full of supporters...

WE dont want it to get to a point where its just pitch must be so wide so big (every single ground) next they will say everyone on artificial turf so there is no unfair bias and and clinical statistical boring approach to football (re at times the irritating national curriculum)


sorry bit of a rant! i wish everyone a good 2016...

[GO AWAY]

So at the moment with only Lakes and Southy able to meet the NPL criteria what do NNSW do, because at the moment the current promotion/relegation model doesn't work.

1. Promote Lakes and Southy and scrap the NewFM completely moving the other 9 teams into a revamped Zone League system, effectively killing promotion and relegation to the NPL.

2. After the conclusion of next season leave whatever teams are left in NewFM and say to them "You have 3 years to get your club up to NPL standard or you will be back to the ZPL". Not the most ideal scenario, possibly punishing a club that is NPL ready by not allowing them promotion to NPL for 3 years.

3. Drop whatever teams from NewFM that don't or can't meet NPL criteria to ZPL and have a smaller NPL2 division with clubs either already meeting the criteria or have a plan in place to meet it within 3 years.

4. Ease up on the criteria and have promotion/relegation flowing through all 6 divisions with ease.

Will be very interesting to what ever solution they choose next year.

Ease up on the criteria, promotion / relegation through all divisions.

As a matter of interest, why do Toronto Awaba not meet criteria ? They did in 2008 ?? When they were promoted above Azzuri and Lakes

[The Postman]

Ease up on the criteria, promotion / relegation through all divisions.

As a matter of interest, why do Toronto Awaba not meet criteria ? They did in 2008 ?? When they were promoted above Azzuri and Lakes

Money issues and ground requirements I would hazard a guess

[GO AWAY]

Money issues and ground requirements I would hazard a guess

Best ground in Newfm and up there with NPL grounds

[The Postman]

Best ground in Newfm and up there with NPL grounds

Oh yes no debating that fact but it's the other factors - lighting, the players race from sheds to field and the dugouts. Plus having to share with the Footy.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Oh yes no debating that fact but it's the other factors - lighting, the players race from sheds to field and the dugouts. Plus having to share with the Footy.


the player race? wasn't that fixed and is now level? use to have to walk up towards the ground from the sheds... dugouts aren't that bad I've seen far worse

maybe it just needs to be pushed

[EH9]

Why do we need player's races anyway! Such an out-dated idea and really impractical for most clubs. If someone wants to get to a ref or player they are more likely to jump over the thigh high fence that surrounds the playing surface.

[curious_fan]

A majority of the remaining NewFm clubs don't currently hold NPL Licences for two major but common reasons:

1. They have never applied (as many have never seen the need)

2. Many did not have the junior sides under their club entity.


Most clubs have issues to resolve, all clubs will need to decide if they have the desire and means to resolve them. The applications cover 10 areas from memory and each one is important. The ground is only 1 of those but for many its the easiest to visualise. Finance, committee experience, youth, coaches education, forward planning etc all come into consideration.

The challenge now is for everyone on the forum, esp the NewFM forum, to get off their backsides and go and ask what they can do to help the club remain in NewFM because there is a real risk it wont exist in 2017 is too many clubs cant achieve that level. Too many people in football want others to make sure their clubs survive but make far too little effort themselves for the club that gave them the chance to play.

[ForeverRed]

Hardly any players give back anymore, very frustrating

[Zico]

Hardly any players give back anymore, very frustrating
Maybe the club culture and the feeling within the club is the reason for this? This is as much a committee issue as a player issue, get the players who fit the culture and have a committee attitude that promotes the correct attitude that there is no us and them and you will have the players on board.

[NearlyALegend]

Is it time for next seasons thread?

[boz-monaut]

I set them up as soon after 1 January as can I get around to it

[The Postman]

Toronto still has not paid their players, really feeling for a few of the guys with young kids who could probably use the extra money this time of year.

[seldom]

Toronto still has not paid their players, really feeling for a few of the guys with young kids who could probably use the extra money this time of year.

Terrible

[MFKS]

Toronto still has not paid their players, really feeling for a few of the guys with young kids who could probably use the extra money this time of year.

Just another example of why blokes at this level shouldn't be being paid.

If a club cant afford to be paying players by December what the **** are they doing promising to be paying players at all??

Money that should be going to fund juniors and develop the code in this region and strengthen clubs in general is being wasted paying for blokes end of season trips to Bali and Xmas presents

FMD

[Zico]

Just another example of why blokes at this level shouldn't be being paid.

If a club cant afford to be paying players by December what the **** are they doing promising to be paying players at all??

Money that should be going to fund juniors and develop the code in this region and strengthen clubs in general is being wasted paying for blokes end of season trips to Bali and Xmas presents

FMD

I think players deserve to be paid but the amount is what needs to be questioned. I will also add this, what sort of a fu@cked up club and officials offer money to players that they have no intent of coming good on.

This is a classic for me how NNSWF are slowly but surely going to weed out the grubs in our game. Hopefully the fed step in and send Awaba back to the ID's and promote a club with morales.

[MFKS]

I think players deserve to be paid but the amount is what needs to be questioned. I will also add this, what sort of a fu@cked up club and officials offer money to players that they have no intent of coming good on.

This is a classic for me how NNSWF are slowly but surely going to weed out the grubs in our game. Hopefully the fed step in and send Awaba back to the ID's and promote a club with morales.

Your right about the NNSWF needing to act to deal with clubs like this. Reality is you and I know **** all will happen as per usual from them

As for the amount players should be being paid??

Well this is 2nd division in 6th largest federation in Australia.

After you throw into the equation that NSW and Vic Feds have probably 2-3 divisions as strong as NBN then NEWFM would have to be ranked 20th-30th league in strength in this country.

How can anyone justify paying blokes at this level??


I am sure in bonafide passionate football countries blokes playing in the 20th-30th tier in Scotland Italy Belgium Argentina Chile Turkey Spain etc ain't getting paid for their efforts

How can a country with a football history and limited passion like Australia has justify it when all they are doing is pissing away the one resource in $$$$ that gives us the opportunities to catch up to the elite nations ??

[EH9]

I think players deserve to be paid but the amount is what needs to be questioned. I will also add this, what sort of a fu@cked up club and officials offer money to players that they have no intent of coming good on.

This is a classic for me how NNSWF are slowly but surely going to weed out the grubs in our game. Hopefully the fed step in and send Awaba back to the ID's and promote a club with morales.

The same club that a few months ago advertised on Facebook for donations so they can purchase strips for next season

[Zico]

The same club that a few months ago advertised on Facebook for donations so they can purchase strips for next season
Yeah I found that laughable when I read the that on Facebook.

[EH9]

Yeah I found that laughable when I read the that on Facebook.

You add that to the issue with player payments and the 'discipline' for holding trials outside of the window allocated you would think that some form of sanction would be forthcoming.

[seldom]

And yet they wonder why decent coaches and players don't stay....They're kidding themselves .

[NewyTy]

Seems like this is turning into a crisis situation for the club. Morisset's ground improvements and what not will cause worry as well. I still think it should be a 12 team league, hate the bye. Haven't seen it mentioned on here yet but Singleton have installed David Willoughby as their head coach. Will be interesting to see what they can achieve under him.

[hawk]

Morisset's ground improvements and what not will cause worry as well. I still think it should be a 12 team league, hate the bye.

Im not sure if we can accommodate 12 teams and all be competitive. we cant yet fill 10 competitive teams in 2nds.

[seldom]

Seems like this is turning into a crisis situation for the club. Morisset's ground improvements and what not will cause worry as well. I still think it should be a 12 team league, hate the bye. Haven't seen it mentioned on here yet but Singleton have installed David Willoughby as their head coach. Will be interesting to see what they can achieve under him.

Who's David Willoughby ?

[NewyTy]

Who's David Willoughby ?

Former Hunter Valley technical director and has had some experience around local football. He got a write-up in the local paper up there: http://www.singletonargus.com.au/story/3527168/striking-challenge/?cs=1660

[Zico]

Who's David Willoughby ?
He didn't have the best wrap from his time at Hunter so it will be interesting to see how he goes stepping up to Seniors.

[The Cookaburra Kid]

Any news on clubs planning trials??

[GO AWAY]

I think players deserve to be paid but the amount is what needs to be questioned. I will also add this, what sort of a fu@cked up club and officials offer money to players that they have no intent of coming good on.



This is a classic for me how NNSWF are slowly but surely going to weed out the grubs in our game. Hopefully the fed step in and send Awaba back to the ID's and promote a club with morales.


A club with morals ? Who you kidding mate, Toronto Awaba obviously must be going through a hard time, it's not the club that's the issue, it must be the people running it ?

Please don't tarnish the club who had produced so many good local players and had some greats play for them, players that use to play for the club and not the money, a club who has won state cups against big boys in the day like Adamstown, Wallsend etc etc

How bout the football community including nnsw help the club out, give them advice, whatever, but no good naming the club on here postman, and no good calling the club / admin grubs mfks, 1923 this club was born and it won't die because the local community won't help out , and it won't die because the newcastle community have a bee in their bonnet over toronto awaba ...... Not good players not payed ( if true ) but there must be a solution ffs

[hawk]

***ending this topic right here***

anything else Newfm going on?

[GO AWAY]

To all the critics who are happy to bag the once great club " toronto awaba ' their AGM is tomorrow night, you are more then welcome to chuck your money in and become a voice where it matters , " not on a forum behind a keyboard " , you ARE more then welcome.

To the people who pull me aside in the street, via text, via FB asking can i help ??? Hope to see you ALL at the AGM, ONE PERSON CANT FIX THE CLUB, BUT MANY COULD..

remember my parents saying once " buy the worst house in the best street, not the best house in the worst street " this applies to awaba, if someone would like to help run the place, we will see you tomorrow night ........... cheers

[sancho_theswan]

I think players deserve to be paid but the amount is what needs to be questioned.

All this talk about paying players has started to make me think…. Should players be paid???? Should anyone be paid???? Why do players and coaches get paid???
Well from a historical stand point I guess they always have.
Who are the players who get paid??? I think the majority (although not all) would be those who had to “pay” a lot when younger because they had bit of talent and some would have even fallen into the “elite” sportsman bracket! So maybe they are getting a return on the monies outlaid when a junior? If there was no return on the money then maybe some would move codes, change sports – I wouldn’t like to see that happen.
Coaches get paid certainly but again this is mostly a return for the time and money they now personally have to devote for a “certificate” for accreditation.

I support Zico on this which is funny because we generally have differing views on a lot of things.

MFKS – you bang on a lot about low standards and poor competitions, I think the standard would probably be lower without payments….. Just saying!

[curious_fan]

All this talk about paying players has started to make me think…. Should players be paid???? Should anyone be paid???? Why do players and coaches get paid???
Well from a historical stand point I guess they always have.
Who are the players who get paid??? I think the majority (although not all) would be those who had to “pay” a lot when younger because they had bit of talent and some would have even fallen into the “elite” sportsman bracket! So maybe they are getting a return on the monies outlaid when a junior? If there was no return on the money then maybe some would move codes, change sports – I wouldn’t like to see that happen.
Coaches get paid certainly but again this is mostly a return for the time and money they now personally have to devote for a “certificate” for accreditation.

I support Zico on this which is funny because we generally have differing views on a lot of things.

MFKS – you bang on a lot about low standards and poor competitions, I think the standard would probably be lower without payments….. Just saying!

Seeing the AGM Financial for West Wallsend they paid zero for their coaching staff for this season and again for next season (which shows they are finding people willing to help the club out of their troubles) and they paid zero to players last year and will be doing so again in 2016, even more impressive was First Grade players paying their registration along with their 17's guys. So there are players willing given, as many have mentioned, the right atmosphere and culture, the issue is the time it takes to rebuild that from the low point a club can find itself in.

I am truely hoping many clubs see the NPL challenge laid down by Northern and do look at restructuring player payments, coaching, junior involvement and the local community in general

[Retro Jet]

All this talk about paying players has started to make me think…. Should players be paid???? Should anyone be paid???? Why do players and coaches get paid???
Well from a historical stand point I guess they always have.
Who are the players who get paid??? I think the majority (although not all) would be those who had to “pay” a lot when younger because they had bit of talent and some would have even fallen into the “elite” sportsman bracket! So maybe they are getting a return on the monies outlaid when a junior? If there was no return on the money then maybe some would move codes, change sports – I wouldn’t like to see that happen.
Coaches get paid certainly but again this is mostly a return for the time and money they now personally have to devote for a “certificate” for accreditation.

I support Zico on this which is funny because we generally have differing views on a lot of things.

MFKS – you bang on a lot about low standards and poor competitions, I think the standard would probably be lower without payments….. Just saying!

A ball park figure I heard of for one player in NewFM - $500 per match? A lot of that money could go towards maybe LED lighting upgrade for example or amenities...even paying for coaching Certificates.
The list of options is endless. It's really starting to lose the plot.
I wonder how much (on a sliding scale) your John Macquaries, Mark Jones', Darren Stewart's etc were being paid back in those days for their local clubs?

[De-Champ]

A ball park figure I heard of for one player in NewFM - $500 per match? A lot of that money could go towards maybe LED lighting upgrade for example or amenities...even paying for coaching Certificates.
The list of options is endless. It's really starting to lose the plot.
I wonder how much (on a sliding scale) your John Macquaries, Mark Jones', Darren Stewart's etc were being paid back in those days for their local clubs?

That is the crux of the matter YOU HEARD....how much was he actually paid???

[MFKS]

That is the crux of the matter YOU HEARD....how much was he actually paid???

You keep focusing on the it is only rumour part how much he was paid.

You are still missing the point.


We all know blokes are getting paid in this comp and we all know some are well paid. the exact figure doesn't matter

Ridiculous amounts of money are being squandered to pay players to run around in Newys 2nd tier comp.


Money that should be invested into clubs and juniors is squandered to pay some bloke who is not even in the top 100 players in the region

[LongSufferingFan]

I agree with De-Champ.
Everyone says that NewFM players are getting paid too much - but are they???
No-one can provide a name or an amount to prove it.

We DO know that many NewFM clubs spend little or no money (eg Westy) on player payments.
Clubs might pay first grade regos and a token win bonus for most players - I am ok with that.
If a player earns $1,000 to $2,000 per year ($50 to $100 per week) in player payments that would probably cover his petrol costs to get to and from training twice a week.

If there are players that are getting paid big $ in NewFM then it will be the minority and will only be in a select few clubs (probably with the big junior bases - think Valo, Cooks Hill and Kahibah would be my guess).

Happy to be shot down but do it with some facts not a I HEARD.....

[Zico]

I agree with De-Champ.
Everyone says that NewFM players are getting paid too much - but are they???
No-one can provide a name or an amount to prove it.

We DO know that many NewFM clubs spend little or no money (eg Westy) on player payments.
Clubs might pay first grade regos and a token win bonus for most players - I am ok with that.
If a player earns $1,000 to $2,000 per year ($50 to $100 per week) in player payments that would probably cover his petrol costs to get to and from training twice a week.

If there are players that are getting paid big $ in NewFM then it will be the minority and will only be in a select few clubs (probably with the big junior bases - think Valo, Cooks Hill and Kahibah would be my guess).

Happy to be shot down but do it with some facts not a I HEARD.....
Add Lakes onto the big spenders list.

[Premy]

I agree with De-Champ.
Everyone says that NewFM players are getting paid too much - but are they???
No-one can provide a name or an amount to prove it.

We DO know that many NewFM clubs spend little or no money (eg Westy) on player payments.
Clubs might pay first grade regos and a token win bonus for most players - I am ok with that.
If a player earns $1,000 to $2,000 per year ($50 to $100 per week) in player payments that would probably cover his petrol costs to get to and from training twice a week.

If there are players that are getting paid big $ in NewFM then it will be the minority and will only be in a select few clubs (probably with the big junior bases - think Valo, Cooks Hill and Kahibah would be my guess).

Happy to be shot down but do it with some facts not a I HEARD.....
I'm not naming names or Clubs but I know there are people in NewFM on $100 appearance and $300 a win. That's at least $2000 grand a year, now would I be crazy to think that 10 of his team mates are on the same coin? No...
So that's $22,000 with out a win, over 5 years thats $110,000 minimum. What would $110,000 worth of upgrades to facilities get you?

Edit: Clubs need to look at the big picture and stop lining the pokets of former hacks or a never was. No problem with Clubs covering rego if they can afford but defending player payments in NewFM means you're part of the problem.

[q-money]

I That's at least $2000 grand a year

fk m8 i better get playin' NEWFM ricky tick at 2 million a year

[Premy]

fk m8 i better get playin' NEWFM ricky tick at 2 million a year

Best part of this that I edited my post and still didn't pick up this :banghead:

[GO AWAY]

Great to hear the Toronto Awaba AGM went down a treat, with a young president, and a exuberant committee full of business owners, have heard all positions filled and a committee of about ten blokes. Time to turn the club back in the right direction.

Better still, no executive committee have sons playing at the club as far as i am aware.

Lots of work to do, but heading in the right direction

[Premy]

Great to hear the Toronto Awaba AGM went down a treat, with a young president, and a exuberant committee full of business owners, have heard all positions filled and a committee of about ten blokes. Time to turn the club back in the right direction.

Better still, no executive committee have sons playing at the club as far as i am aware.

Lots of work to do, but heading in the right direction
Fantastic news, a strong Toronto Awaba can only be good for football in Newcastle.

[Goatscheese]

I'm not naming names or Clubs but I know there are people in NewFM on $100 appearance and $300 a win. That's at least $2000 grand a year, now would I be crazy to think that 10 of his team mates are on the same coin? No...
So that's $22,000 with out a win, over 5 years thats $110,000 minimum. What would $110,000 worth of upgrades to facilities get you?

Yes you would be crazy to think all players are paid the same, some are paid an appearance fee plus the win money while some only get win money.

[sancho_theswan]

Found this item on the BelSwans site today....some work in the pipelines I gather.
Just keep clear of my nest will ya's!!!!!!!

Belmont Swansea United Football Club - kicking goals off the park!
The Member for Swansea – Yasmin Catley MP announced mid-week that the Belswans were successful in obtaining grant funding in the 2015 Community Building Partnerships program.
This is fantastic news for the club and the allocated funding will assist in facility infrastructure improvements at Blacksmiths Oval.
There will certainly be a different look at the ground in the near future with tiered seating pods, retaining walls and concrete paths to provide for spectator comfort and enhance the look of the facility all on the agenda.
The Member for Swansea – Yasmin Catley MP met with Belswans Club Secretary Brad Paul at Blacksmiths Oval to see first hand what the club had planned for future developments.

[EH9]

Found this item on the BelSwans site today....some work in the pipelines I gather.
Just keep clear of my nest will ya's!!!!!!!

Belmont Swansea United Football Club - kicking goals off the park!
The Member for Swansea – Yasmin Catley MP announced mid-week that the Belswans were successful in obtaining grant funding in the 2015 Community Building Partnerships program.
This is fantastic news for the club and the allocated funding will assist in facility infrastructure improvements at Blacksmiths Oval.
There will certainly be a different look at the ground in the near future with tiered seating pods, retaining walls and concrete paths to provide for spectator comfort and enhance the look of the facility all on the agenda.
The Member for Swansea – Yasmin Catley MP met with Belswans Club Secretary Brad Paul at Blacksmiths Oval to see first hand what the club had planned for future developments.

Good to hear! Well done to all the Belswans people for being proactive.

[GO AWAY]

Found this item on the BelSwans site today....some work in the pipelines I gather.
Just keep clear of my nest will ya's!!!!!!!

Belmont Swansea United Football Club - kicking goals off the park!
The Member for Swansea – Yasmin Catley MP announced mid-week that the Belswans were successful in obtaining grant funding in the 2015 Community Building Partnerships program.
This is fantastic news for the club and the allocated funding will assist in facility infrastructure improvements at Blacksmiths Oval.
There will certainly be a different look at the ground in the near future with tiered seating pods, retaining walls and concrete paths to provide for spectator comfort and enhance the look of the facility all on the agenda.
The Member for Swansea – Yasmin Catley MP met with Belswans Club Secretary Brad Paul at Blacksmiths Oval to see first hand what the club had planned for future developments.

Meanwhile the club secretarys son joins magic ???

[Bremsstrahlung]

Who cares?
People complain when committee members Sons play for the same club. Complain when they leave.

[sancho_theswan]

Meanwhile the club secretarys son joins magic ???

What does this mean??? Don't get it.

[sancho_theswan]

Meanwhile the club secretarys son joins magic ???

Maybe what you meant to say was "Meanwhile the secretarys son has returned to magic after 3 years travelling and working away"?????

[hawk]

concrete paths to provide for spectator comfort

The Member for Swansea – "What have you done for me Catley" MP met with Belswans Club Secretary Brad Paul at Blacksmiths Oval to see first hand what the club had planned for future developments.

geez what was there before rusty nails

[Goatscheese]

What does this mean??? Don't get it.

It means the son of Belmont Swansea's secretary has joined magic. Not much to get

[sancho_theswan]

geez what was there before rusty nails

Nope... just sand!!!

[sancho_theswan]

It means the son of Belmont Swansea's secretary has joined magic. Not much to get

that's right... it has nothing to do with anything!

[sancho_theswan]

It means the son of Belmont Swansea's secretary has joined magic. Not much to get

Yes... I can interpret the statement but thanks for spelling it out.
Just don't get where "Go Away" was "coming from".

[Football lover]

Anybody have any links to either new fm or npl draws for 2016. They are almost done by this stage of the yr for the upcoming season? Cheers

[Imyourhero]

Look back through the last couple of pages mate, somebody posted newfm fixtures

[Football lover]

Look back through the last couple of pages mate, somebody posted newfm fixtures



I was under the impression that it was only a draft? All good I'm sure I'll see it soon enough.

[Imyourhero]

Probably good enough to go by for now, probably see venue changes rather than times or fixture changes

[curious_fan]

Probably good enough to go by for now, probably see venue changes rather than times or fixture changes

Nothing further has been released from the earlier post, there may be a tinkering here or there but if its not released by now I think you can safely say its 99% right.