Russia 2018 World Cup - AFC Qualifiers

[MFKS]

Don't forget boys

The frustration your feeling watching this tonight


Don't forget 27 weeks of Bert Boogaard and the boys is coming


THIS IS NOTHING

[plague]

This is a Leckie Masterclass behold the wizardry.

[hawk]

bet NZ could break them down

[MFKS]

Finally

[hawk]

Saudis will win

[MFKS]

The goalkeeper is on the take

FMD

[StannyCFCJET]

Don't forget boys

The frustration your feeling watching this tonight


Don't forget 27 weeks of Bert Boogaard and the boys is coming


THIS IS NOTHING

Why u do dis?

[Jeterpool]

Does Leckie look awkward in everything he Does?

[StannyCFCJET]

****ing Joke. This system needs to die. Imagine playing a WC team with the space we leave

[MFKS]

That what happens when your mids don't track back at all

[StannyCFCJET]

That what happens when your mids don't track back at all

Mooy needs runners around him. Cant play two luxury players in Rogic and Mooy in the same game

[plague]

Good finish tho

[Imyourhero]

bet NZ could break them down

No joke I actually enjoyed watching NZ in the confeds cup, they'd do us i reckon.

[MFKS]

Leckie could have just sent us to the WC

[StannyCFCJET]

Leckie could have just sent us to the WC

Don't we need over four goals?

[goaliepersempre]

Don't we need over four goals?

If saudis win (which they will) yes

[MFKS]

Don't we need over four goals?

If the result stays 2-1

Saudis have to Beat Japan

Draw ain't good enough

[StannyCFCJET]

If the result stays 2-1

Saudis have to Beat Japan

Draw ain't good enough

Hopefully Japan don't take it easy

[Jetmaster]

Japan wont have any interest...when are the playoffs boys?

[MFKS]

Japan wont have any interest...when are the playoffs boys?

Next month

[Retro Jet]

The goalkeeper is on the take

FMD

I picked it in the 23rd minute when one of the black ants was carded for time wasting taking a throw in.
Rolling around in a nothing game for them. Every foul they milked it.
These kents have been thrown a bone from the head choppers to park the bus...100%

Should have been a cricket score. We were our own worst enemy tonight.

Tashkent anyone?

[Jeterpool]

We've been our on worst enemy a little longer than just tonight, to be fair.

[sorefootballer]

Don't think I have been this sad about the team winning ever before. Who is going to watch the game later this morning?

[MFKS]

Don't think I have been this sad about the team winning ever before. Who is going to watch the game later this morning?

Not worth it

Just tape the ****er

Sleep and watch it tomorrow if you can be arsed

[Retro Jet]

Don't think I have been this sad about the team winning ever before. Who is going to watch the game later this morning?

I am...off to bed now.
Can't help myself. Going to suffer either way with the result.
We don't deserve to go to a World Cup playing like this.

[plague]

man o man im a big Troisi fanboy but jeez he was honking tonight.

to be fair though starting Cahill over him was a joke.

its over, Tims done. time* to move on.













*it was actually time after the Asian Cup but lets not go back there

[sorefootballer]

Day off tomorrow so I'll probably watch it.
I don't have any blank tapes left for the vcr, don't want to lose all the memories of the golden years by taping over.

[Jetmaster]

Bozza not pulling any punches.

#angeout

[sorefootballer]

Yeah you can see Timmy is slowing down and just a step behind the others. Don't get me wrong his heart is in it... But that only counts for so much.

[sammydog]

Bozza not pulling any punches.

#angeout

Bozza pretty much nailed it on this one.

[hawk]

turned it off. too frustrating. hoped we got beat 6-1. Carn back packers

[Retro Jet]

What's the bet these pricks win on a grubby penalty or at least try hard for one?
Japan certainly not showing signs of lying down.

[Retro Jet]

1-0...Damascus
or some other hell hole in that pat of the world.

[Jeterpool]

Looks like we face Syria

[belchardo]

honking. got what we deserve.

players get more match payments and bonuses, ffa get more games, foxtel get more games - everybody wins!

[belchardo]

at least malaysia isnt too far.

games on 5 and 10 October.

[Wilso8948]

Surely we beat Syria over two legs. The games against USA/Honduras/Panama is where the danger is at.

lol Syria will beat us..

[MFKS]

See the funny thing with all this is all the people blowing up at Ange and the players

The reality is the ****s who are responsible for this are the FFA

Ange actually coached us to the FFA endorsed curriculum last night

Just look at the KPIs in possession and field position and shots at goal etc

The players done what they have been coached to do which is play this way

It the failings of the Dutch Mango Suckers and their coaching gameplans that are to blame and the dumb ****s at FFA who buy it hook line and sinker

We have actually turned out back on what advantages we have such as height physical aggression etc and now refuse to use these tactics to our advantage as we want to try and play this style of football that some Dutch failure believes in

[plague]

Looks like we face Syria

Are you Syrias?

[plague]

Further to Members point, the Dutch aren't going to the World Cup either.

[Jeterpool]

Are you Syrias?

I see what you did there

It was funny.

[MFKS]

On another note

5 wins
4 draws
1 loss

We actually are pretty stiff to miss out directly

Considering the Saudis lost 3 times
Sth Korea lost 3 times
Japan lost twice

They all qualified

Matter of fact that record we have would have seen us qualify last time and the time before comfortably

Just little unlucky to miss out on GD

[baldrick]

On another note

5 wins
4 draws
1 loss

We actually are pretty stiff to miss out directly

Considering the Saudis lost 3 times
Sth Korea lost 3 times
Japan lost twice

They all qualified

Matter of fact that record we have would have seen us qualify last time and the time before comfortably

Just little unlucky to miss out on GD

Thought I'd let The Member know, his account has been hacked.

Someone's posting positives from it.

[Retro Jet]

On another note

5 wins
4 draws
1 loss

We actually are pretty stiff to miss out directly

Considering the Saudis lost 3 times
Sth Korea lost 3 times
Japan lost twice

They all qualified

Matter of fact that record we have would have seen us qualify last time and the time before comfortably

Just little unlucky to miss out on GD

Yeah. It's the two draws away to the two bottom placed teams hurt the most.
Iraq beat Thailand 4-0 at 'home' ffs.

Seremban District...outside KL. They're been getting crowds between 4-5k.
2-2 at the Azadi is not to be sneezed at either.
The roller coaster continues....

[Jetmaster]

"Luck" doesn't cost you over 10 games that sorts it out fairly.

This has been coming and to be honest, I think it is a slap in the face we need.

Thailand got 2 points in 10 games! They scores only 6 goals and 3 were against us. That's where we blew it.

[lquiquer]

If we get pass Syria..... Honduras worries me most. They take their football seriously in that part of the world, very hostile environment there, maybe even worse than Uruguay . From Wiki: "The Football War (Spanish: La guerra del fútbol), also known as the Soccer War or 100 Hour War, was a brief war fought between El Salvador and Honduras in 1969. Existing tensions between the two countries coincided with rioting during a 1970 FIFA World Cup qualifier. The war began on 14 July 1969, when the Salvadoran military launched an attack against Honduras."

[MFKS]

Thought I'd let The Member know, his account has been hacked.

Someone's posting positives from it.

Just over reading every pea brain on Twitter hammering Ange saying that his formation was the issue last night

We had 45 shots at goal
It wasn't like the formation of a back 3 saw us struggle to play

Struggle to score Yes but that down to execution of skills the resolution of the Thai defence and luck

But every pea brain is going off on Twitter missing what the real issues are here

It ain't Ange and it ain't the players efforts last night or over the last year

It is the systematic failings of the FFA in the last dozen years that have led us to this point

They the issues that need addressing


Also on another note we ain't out of the WC

2 legged ties v Syria
2 legged ties V Honduras/ Panama are nothing to be petrified about

[lquiquer]

well could be USA....Honduras leading them 1-0 at the moment!!!

[plague]

I see what you did there

It was funny.

I was contemplating doing a bunch of AFC puns but Iran away from the idea pretty quickly.

[plague]

How good are the Matilda's though.......

[Macca]

"Luck" doesn't cost you over 10 games that sorts it out fairly.

This has been coming and to be honest, I think it is a slap in the face we need.

Thailand got 2 points in 10 games! They scores only 6 goals and 3 were against us. That's where we blew it.

Not having seen the table, that's surprising to me. I was pretty impressed with the Thai's last night. Their scrambling in defence in a dead rubber for them was pretty unreal, and I was not at all surprised when they scored - they looked threatening many times going forward, and we struggled to contain their attacking players who all had plenty of flair and good technique. Not to mention some extremely lucky refereeing for us, Sainsbury should have been sent off and Degenek got nutmegged but was deemed to have completed a fair tackle.

Mooy was the standout last night, he was behind probably 80% of our threatening situations by providing key passes. No idea why Cahill started in the deeper role, where he can still contribute is in the box poaching goals.

Anyone know if the qualifiers will be on free to air?

[pv4]

I was contemplating doing a bunch of AFC puns but Iran away from the idea pretty quickly.

i tried to think of more to add to this but i'm at a laos

[Bremsstrahlung]

Thailand did well. They were launching themselves at everything that looked like a shot. As everyone has said, the draw in Thailand looks pretty embarrassing now.
Confident we can beat both Syria and Panama (assuming they beat Trinidad). If we can't, then I think we have squandered enough chances.

I sometimes wish we played top 20 opposition more. Much better to watch being the underdog. They've raised our hopes over the years. Made us think we were a powerhouse in Asia.

[plague]

How many more qualifies do the Central Americans have? Have they announced grounds/dates for Syria game yet?

[plague]

i tried to think of more to add to this but i'm at a laos

Oman that was a terrible one.

[plague]

Why don't Kuwait a bit and I'll think of some more.

[Wilso8948]

Thailand did well. They were launching themselves at everything that looked like a shot. As everyone has said, the draw in Thailand looks pretty embarrassing now.
Confident we can beat both Syria and Panama (assuming they beat Trinidad). If we can't, then I think we have squandered enough chances.

I sometimes wish we played top 20 opposition more. Much better to watch being the underdog. They've raised our hopes over the years. Made us think we were a powerhouse in Asia.

If Panama beat Trinidad then we play the USA.

[lquiquer]

Away 5/10
Home 10/10

Honduras - USA 1-1
2 games left for USA and Honduras both on 9 points, Panama on 7 points playing today v Trinidad at home
USA: Panama (Home) and Trinidad (Away)
Honduras: Costa Rica (Away), Mexico (Home)
Panama: USA (Away), Costa Rica (Home)

[evolution]

How many more qualifies do the Central Americans have? Have they announced grounds/dates for Syria game yet?

USA = 2 games - home vs Panama / away vs Trinidad & Tobago

Honduras = 2 games - away vs Costa Rica / home vs Mexico

Panama = 3 games - home vs Trinidad & Tobago (today) / away vs USA / home vs Costa Rica

[Wilso8948]

Just had a look at the table. If we get past Syria it can only be USA and Honduras now.

[Wilso8948]

Sorry I didn't realise there's still games to play.. carry on..

[lquiquer]

If Panama beat Trinidad then we play the USA.

Not yet son....see above post

[De-Champ]

"Luck" doesn't cost you over 10 games that sorts it out fairly.

This has been coming and to be honest, I think it is a slap in the face we need.

Thailand got 2 points in 10 games! They scores only 6 goals and 3 were against us. That's where we blew it.

Luck can go both ways. In a way we were lucky the game did not finish 2-2. That was a definite penalty for the Thais, possibly a send off as well.

[Giges]

Yeah. It's the two draws away to the two bottom placed teams hurt the most.
Iraq beat Thailand 4-0 at 'home' ffs.

Seremban District...outside KL. They're been getting crowds between 4-5k.
2-2 at the Azadi is not to be sneezed at either.
The roller coaster continues....

Last qualifying campaign there were only 5 teams at the final stage.
This time round there is 6 with Thailand being the 6th team.
Japan & Saudi got 6 points from the Thai’s where we only got 4.
If you there were only 6 teams like last time we would have been ok.

Dead set devastated after seeing the Saudi result this morning…

[MFKS]

Thailand did well. They were launching themselves at everything that looked like a shot. As everyone has said, the draw in Thailand looks pretty embarrassing now.
Confident we can beat both Syria and Panama (assuming they beat Trinidad). If we can't, then I think we have squandered enough chances.

I sometimes wish we played top 20 opposition more. Much better to watch being the underdog. They've raised our hopes over the years. Made us think we were a powerhouse in Asia.

Interesting thing with the belittling of the Thais as being unable to play etc

Look at the way they worked their goal
Look at the way they took their chance

They did what a team is meant to do


They actually a lot better than their 130 ranking or whatever it is and will only improve

Where we failed is to put them to the sword and kill the contest both times we played them

In Bangkok we were on top and Mooy clocked off in defence ok correction did his usual lazy effort and they got a goal out of nowhere and grew in confidence and got themselves into the game

Last night was a ****ing turkey shoot really and we should have been 3-4 up at HT but failed to take any chance

[belchardo]

Oman that was a terrible one.

before we thai ourselves in knots, i'll malay down for a rest.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Wait,
So there's 6 teams in the Central American.
My app has 3 teams in blue (auto qualify- like our group top 2) and the 4th team is purple (like our 3rd place and Euro 2nd place).
Do we play the 3rd team? Or the 4th?

[lquiquer]

Wait,
So there's 6 teams in the Central American.
My app has 3 teams in blue (auto qualify- like our group top 2) and the 4th team is purple (like our 3rd place and Euro 2nd place).
Do we play the 3rd team? Or the 4th?

4th

[Wilso8948]

Interesting thing with the belittling of the Thais as being unable to play etc

Look at the way they worked their goal
Look at the way they took their chance

They did what a team is meant to do


They actually a lot better than their 130 ranking or whatever it is and will only improve

Where we failed is to put them to the sword and kill the contest both times we played them

In Bangkok we were on top and Mooy clocked off in defence ok correction did his usual lazy effort and they got a goal out of nowhere and grew in confidence and got themselves into the game

Last night was a ****ing turkey shoot really and we should have been 3-4 up at HT but failed to take any chance

Give up on your Mooy bashing. Bloke is light years above anything we have in the NT setup and bossed our team last night. Everything came through him.

Direct your anger to someone like Leckie. The most frustrating player in the world to watch. Overrated and does one thing good all game. Countless turnovers, stepping on the fall, heavy touches, poor passing, poor crosses. How he and Kruse continually get in this team is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is that we really have no better options..

[plague]

I'm with Member the Thais were better than us in game 1 and last night actually looked like the team that had something to play for.

We are so ****ing slow in atrack. Both on the counter and when trying to create in a crowded area.

Yet starting Tim Cahill seemed the best option.

The Aussies are where they are because of who they are.

It's been a garbage campaign, from a national team that is declining, not improving.

[lquiquer]

It's been a garbage campaign, from a national team that is declining, not improving.

In saying that yes hasn't been the best campaign but and I think the Member already brushed on the followings:
we only finished 1 point behind Japan
we scored only 1 goal less than Saoudis and conceded only one goal more than Saoudis.
we also got 4 points more than South Korea and only 3 points less than Iran.

[plague]

and the Gypos only scored one goal less than Griff in the '08 GF.

dont matter shit.

'Win all your home games and you're through' - we didn't.

'Get a result away to Japan and we're comfortable' - we didn't.

'Get max points against the minnows' - we didn't.

The team underachieved.

[MFKS]

and the Gypos only scored one goal less than Griff in the '08 GF.

dont matter shit.

'Win all your home games and you're through' - we didn't.

'Get a result away to Japan and we're comfortable' - we didn't.

'Get max points against the minnows' - we didn't.

The team underachieved.

2014
P8
W3
D4
L1

Qualified for Brazil

This time
P10
W5
D4
L1

Didn't qualify


We actually did better this time than under Holger

[MFKS]

Give up on your Mooy bashing. Bloke is light years above anything we have in the NT setup and bossed our team last night. Everything came through him.

Direct your anger to someone like Leckie. The most frustrating player in the world to watch. Overrated and does one thing good all game. Countless turnovers, stepping on the fall, heavy touches, poor passing, poor crosses. How he and Kruse continually get in this team is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is that we really have no better options..

Mooy bashing??

The bloke failed to defend and track his man in Bangkok for the first goal

Only calling reality on it

The bloke for all his attacking efforts is lazy as defensively same as Rogic

Both lazy defensively and we can't carry both of them in the starting XI

[Macca]

For me, I wouldn't be playing Rogic in these games against teams sitting back. He has a decent shot on hi and wants to attack goals, and likes taking people on. That's great if the game's a bit open and there are counter attacking opportunities. His dribbling isn't good enough to get through tight spaces, shown against Japan and Thailand. And his passing isn't quick enough or incisive enough.

Mooy found a lot of good passes around the edge of the 18 and can shoot when required. Luongo showed against Japan he can play the first time stuff needed to create gaps and I think he has better defensive work rate too.
Milligan is probably our best holding midfielder, but not really required until we are playing stronger opposition who will look to contest possession in our own half. He didn't offer much offensively.

[MFKS]

For me, I wouldn't be playing Rogic in these games against teams sitting back. He has a decent shot on hi and wants to attack goals, and likes taking people on. That's great if the game's a bit open and there are counter attacking opportunities. His dribbling isn't good enough to get through tight spaces, shown against Japan and Thailand. And his passing isn't quick enough or incisive enough.

Mooy found a lot of good passes around the edge of the 18 and can shoot when required. Luongo showed against Japan he can play the first time stuff needed to create gaps and I think he has better defensive work rate too.
Milligan is probably our best holding midfielder, but not really required until we are playing stronger opposition who will look to contest possession in our own half. He didn't offer much offensively.

Rogic to me is a last 30 minute player

As the game opens and space is available then sub him on to exploit it

I think we would get greater joy out of it and so would Rogic

Ange needs to stop ****ing around with Milligan and pick him in the one role not change him every second game

[Tommyjet]

More luongo and the ball will get moved forward quicker

[plague]

More luongo and the ball will get moved forward quicker

This.

Why can't Mooy and Luongo be in the guts and play Rogic at 10 instead of Cahill? Put a striker on who can defend up top (which I think Juric does ok at).

The Rogic Mooy Cahill combo is too slow.

[evolution]

Panama 3-0 win against Trinidad and Tobago.

Costa Rica snagged 1-1 draw with Mexico, they are a mere point away from Russia. Current standings:

2nd - Costa Rica - 15 points (+7 GD)
3rd - Panama - 10 points (+2 GD)
4th - USA - 9 points (+1 GD)
5th - Honduras - 9 points (-7 GD)

Panama host USA next round will be a big one. If Panama win that and Honduras lose to Costa Rica they'll qualify for the first time ever.


EDIT: Argentina currently 5th and Chile 6th in the CONMEBOL standings... RIP New Zealand

[Jetmaster]

The knives are out - Slater:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/opinion-robbie-slater-calls-for-change-as-australia-finish-third-in-world-cup-qualifying/news-story/6ee745ff6fd1ea8d479f952aa8cef3d0

Bozza:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/socceroos-v-thailand-video-highlights-bozza-unloads-on-ange-postecoglou/news-story/d4ad13d01c869a66674f27e5b04d10b7

[MFKS]

The knives are out - Slater:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/opinion-robbie-slater-calls-for-change-as-australia-finish-third-in-world-cup-qualifying/news-story/6ee745ff6fd1ea8d479f952aa8cef3d0

Bozza:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/socceroos-v-thailand-video-highlights-bozza-unloads-on-ange-postecoglou/news-story/d4ad13d01c869a66674f27e5b04d10b7

Everyone having a pop today

Look like idiots if we get to Russia via the playoffs considering we a little unlucky last night with the 3 hitting the post 45 shots etc

Then the time to have their crack

Until then it should be measured debate not petty whining as we didn't qualify directly

[hawk]

Everyone having a pop today

Look like idiots if we get to Russia via the playoffs considering we a little unlucky last night with the 3 hitting the post 45 shots etc

Then the time to have their crack

Until then it should be measured debate not petty whining as we didn't qualify directly

Already look like idiots from not being there now.

Wasnt just last night, we drew in thailand, weve been constantly fkd around on formation and system, havent played to simple strengths, players that dont suit positions, kept the dutch gravy setup.

All could have been changed by mks boyfriend impostakuntloo.

[MFKS]

Already look like idiots from not being there now.

Wasnt just last night, we drew in thailand, weve been constantly fkd around on formation and system, havent played to simple strengths, players that dont suit positions, kept the dutch gravy setup.

All could have been changed by mks boyfriend impostakuntloo.

The Dutch mango set up has never played to our strengths and neither has Ange either at Roar or Victree or with the NT

The appointment of him was always going to go this way

He is a firm believer in his methods and his ways so no point being surprised he does things his way

[Jeterpool]

Everyone having a pop today

Look like idiots if we get to Russia via the playoffs considering we a little unlucky last night with the 3 hitting the post 45 shots etc

Then the time to have their crack

Until then it should be measured debate not petty whining as we didn't qualify directly

I agree.

[lquiquer]

Return leg v Syria to be played at ANZ... good move

[MFKS]

Return leg v Syria to be played at ANZ... good move

Socceroos should be banned from playing any important game in Melbourne

We never done a thing good down there

[plague]

Australia $2 to not qualify.
Load up boys and let the bookies pay your way to Russia.

[lquiquer]

Australia $2 to not qualify.
Load up boys and let the bookies pay your way to Russia.

#InAngeWeTrust

[MFKS]

Australia $2 to not qualify.
Load up boys and let the bookies pay your way to Russia.

They were $1.67 yesterday

Don't jump on it just yet

[plague]

Too late, included in a few multis over the weekend.
Even contemplating backing Syria to knock us out first.


Wonder what the conversion rate is from dollars to rubles right now?

[plague]

Syria $4.50 to beat Australia over 2 legs. Not bad in a pretty evenly matched 2 horse race.

[MFKS]

Syria $4.50 to beat Australia over 2 legs. Not bad in a pretty evenly matched 2 horse race.

It handicapped race

Our horse is being weighed down by Ange's ego don't forget

[Wilso8948]

I'd like to think we beat Syria over two legs FFS. I'd be more concerned about the next round.

[MFKS]

I'd like to think we beat Syria over two legs FFS. I'd be more concerned about the next round.

This is Australian Football we are talking about here

Just like Newy Football Aussie football has a long and distinguished history of shooting ourselves in the foot

[Jetmaster]

Version 2.0 coming soon...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWGNPFI-MtE

[Jetmaster]

Return leg v Syria to be played at ANZ... good move

November playoff there too if we get through..

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/anz-stadium-in-sydney-will-host-socceroos-world-cup-qualifiers-in-russia-2018-quest/news-story/adbba804f5db764beb922cdcb8996921

[hawk]

all i want is santo sam & ed anyway

[Retro Jet]

all i want is santo sam & ed anyway

You can have them!
I still have about 90% of shows from 2010 still on my DVD HDD...

[MFKS]

Have heard the Syria away leg will most likely be in the Middle East rather than Kuala Lumpur

To me I think it is a great thing

We have a lot more experience playing in the dry heat in the Gulf

We also struggled physically in November in Bangkok with the pace of the game. Playing 1 month earlier a 2 hour flight closer to the equator I don't think is going to help us with the humidity challenge

The other thing I think that also helps us is that our players are going to be a bit more experienced taking the 13-14 hour journey back to Australia and then playing 4-5 days later

Think the Syrians will be helping us more by playing in the Gulf than KL

[belchardo]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/09/11/socceroos-qualification-hopes-dealt-a-blow-with-surprise-venue-for-syrian-home-match/

story

[hawk]

theyll be seeking asylum more than 3pts

[Bremsstrahlung]

Fifa announced the tickets will be opened up on 14th September I think until 12th October. Doesn't matter if you request things on first day or last day, allocation is random.

Anybody that has done it before?

Idk whether to wait and see if we qualify, because obviously I'd prefer to see Australia play.
Or to apply for one of those stadium only ticket groups and just be in Moscow or st Petersburg.

Anybody planning to go? What's your plan?

[MFKS]

Fifa announced the tickets will be opened up on 14th September I think until 12th October. Doesn't matter if you request things on first day or last day, allocation is random.

Anybody that has done it before?

Idk whether to wait and see if we qualify, because obviously I'd prefer to see Australia play.
Or to apply for one of those stadium only ticket groups and just be in Moscow or st Petersburg.

Anybody planning to go? What's your plan?

Have done it before

Not planning on going

What you want to know??

[plague]

Fifa announced the tickets will be opened up on 14th September I think until 12th October. Doesn't matter if you request things on first day or last day, allocation is random.

Anybody that has done it before?

Idk whether to wait and see if we qualify, because obviously I'd prefer to see Australia play.
Or to apply for one of those stadium only ticket groups and just be in Moscow or st Petersburg.

Anybody planning to go? What's your plan?

currently pre-planning. went on a tour in '06 so tix were included.
never done the ballot.
Member, please provide any input.
im not necessarily fussed whether Aust qualifies. we have a Russian local who is organising an apartment in St Petersburg so will prob just want to go to all possible games in the area.

[MFKS]

currently pre-planning. went on a tour in '06 so tix were included.
never done the ballot.
Member, please provide any input.
im not necessarily fussed whether Aust qualifies. we have a Russian local who is organising an apartment in St Petersburg so will prob just want to go to all possible games in the area.

I can give you a lot of info on this

Probably best I do it in little bits and pieces as I can instead of just doing it in one foul swoop

For a start don't go gung ho making plans until you hear me out on it as I will have some good insight to assist you

[MFKS]

Firstly don't worry about getting tickets

You may not get them straight away but you will source them no drama before the games

Last time out they had a random ballot first up and I got none

Then they had a virtual queue and I got none

Next round was a ballot and I got 3 Aussie games and Honduras v Ecuador and Rd16 which was France V Nigeria although at the time no one knew for certain who it would be

After that they had a few more virtual queues and one of them I got lucky

Got Rd 16 Brazil v Chile although I didn't go **** you fog in Rio
Rd 16 Argentina v Swiss
QF France v Germany

I also at some stage picked up France Honduras ticket

I also traded or negotiated
Iran v Nigeria
Argentina v Belgium QF
Sth Korea v Belgium
England v Costa Rica

So at one stage I was staring down the barrel of nothing and ended up with 13 tickets all up

[MFKS]

As for this first draw

Honestly don't expect to get them

Last time out the majority of tickets at this draw went to the locals rather than foreigners

There will be some tickets issued to foreigners but look at this as a free swing to try and belt a home run

My goal in this would be to maximise your ticket value here

Go for tickets that will be in high demand and give you trade bait so you can get what you want later

I would be looking at going for things like final semi qf tickets

You probably won't get them but if you do you are set

The other thing that may be worthwhile to try is for a team series ticket 5-6-7

A bloke I got the Iran v Nigeria ticket off got the Iran T7 last time out

He didn't give two ****s about Iran but he was more interested in getting the bigger end tickets

He also sussed out that there be minimal demand for Iran getting to the Final and got lucky

Because Iran got eliminated he got tickets to the Rd 16 QF SF and Final involving his group winner which just happened to be Argentina

The venue ones are not the worst if you can Jag them but they really are a mixed bag of shit

[MFKS]

As for your ordering tickets I don't give a **** how many people are traveling in your group always apply for 4 or the maximum

You may only want one for your arse but 3 to trade gives you a lot of bargaining power

Just make sure you have enough room on your credit card to pay for them all if you get lucky

On another note they also allowed posting of tickets to your residence

I didn't take this up . But it is a great way of getting around their 7 ticket limit

So take it up if they do

[MFKS]

The second draw is where you best off applying for Socceroos tickets if they do get there

This is where the bulk of them will be doled out to the Socceroos fans. I would say about 80-90% of Socceroos fans who went to Brazil got there tickets here
Some were unlucky but the vast majority got the good news with this draw

I also waited until the last minute to put this application in

As a result I was able to see the Rd 16 game France v Nigeria game was in low demand and the Honduras v Ecuador game were in low demand

As I bid for them I got them as the odds were in my favour

I would set my stall out to be prepared to watch any game
You may not get to see a Germany v Brazil match up but all games regardless of who is playing are exciting

Basically be prepared to take what you can get

[MFKS]

As for Category tickets

Cat 1
Cat 2
Cat 3

Quite frankly Cat 1 we're at times dissappointing

I had Cat 1 for Socceroos games

I ended up about 25m out from the goal Chile scored twice at on the sideline

In the Holland game I ended up actually about 20 m behind the goal Robben scored in

At the Spain game I ended up about 25 minutes out from the goal Villa scored at on the sideline

So at 1 ain't the greatest seats as they are actually saved for media and sponsors etc

So be prepared to try for the Cat 2-3 seats as well

I actually had a Cat 3 seat at Porto Alegre France v Honduras that was in a better spot than my Cat 1 to see Aussies v Dutch

So your really up to the fate of the gods here

[MFKS]

If any of you are considering going on a tour with Green and Gold Army or Fanatics

Forget it

Book everything yourself

Hotels flights transport etc

Easy to arrange

There is a thing called the internet you know to research things

Getting a group house as Plague is thinking isn't a bad idea if you prepared to live in people's pockets to save a few $$

[MFKS]

If you can actually swing the holiday leave try and stay for the 2nd round at minimum and maybe the QFs if you can

2nd Rd tickets are not the hardest to get and the reality is you be looking at seeing some great teams play as the bigger teams will usually be drawn together now

If it all works out you could go to 4 games in 4 days in the 2nd Rd and 2 QFs in 2 days

[MFKS]

I will leave it there for now


Any questions fire away

[plague]

haha yeah no chance going with fanatics.

having a Russian connection we were going to try and get tickets through them as locals. again, just try and get anything cheapish and available to then trade for better stuff.
my homies are def going im a late addition wont be making any decisions til end of the year anyway when the draw is done and what games will be available.

[MFKS]

Other thing I would add is

Put in applications in your name
In your wife's name
In your parents name

Anyone who is happy to let you slug their credit card as they trust you to fix them up needs to be roped in

The more applications you can put in the better

This is why you want tickets posted as well


Last time I had multiple bank accounts set up with my parents name but my money

As a result when I was in the virtual queue I had numerous devices going

Phone tablet laptop desktop etc

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/sep/14/malaysia-to-host-socceroos-crucial-world-cup-playoff-against-syria

syria game to be played in malaysia after all.

[belchardo]

squad. good to see Goodwin getting a look in.

Mustafa Amini
Aziz Behich
Mark Birighitti
Tim Cahill
Milos Degenek
Alex Gersbach
Craig Goodwin
Jackson Irvine
Mile Jedinak
James Jeggo
Tomi Juric
Matthew Jurman
Robbie Kruse
Mitchell Langerak
Mathew Leckie
Massimo Luongo
Awer Mabil
Jamie Maclaren
Ryan McGowan
Mark Milligan
Aaron Mooy
Josh Risdon
Tom Rogic
Nikita Rukavytsya
Mathew Ryan
Trent Sainsbury
Brad Smith
James Troisi
Daniel Vukovic
Bailey Wright

[Grimario]

Trimmed to 23.

Amini, Behich, Cahill, Degenek, Goodwin, Irvine, Juric, Jurman, Kruse, Langerak, Leckie, Luongo, Milligan, Mooy, Risdon, Rogic, Rukavytska, Ryan, Sainsbury, Smith, Troisi, Vukovic, Wright.\

Birighitti, Gersbach, Jedinak, Jeggo, Mabil, Maclaren, R. McGowan all dropped.

[Imyourhero]

How is Gersbach dropped but Brad Smith still included????

[Bremsstrahlung]

Incriminating photos of Ange...

[StannyCFCJET]

Trimmed to 23.

Amini, Behich, Cahill, Degenek, Goodwin, Irvine, Juric, Jurman, Kruse, Langerak, Leckie, Luongo, Milligan, Mooy, Risdon, Rogic, Rukavytska, Ryan, Sainsbury, Smith, Troisi, Vukovic, Wright.\

Birighitti, Gersbach, Jedinak, Jeggo, Mabil, Maclaren, R. McGowan all dropped.


How did this happen

[Grimario]

Gersbach injured, Maclaren given extra time to settle into new club, Biraz never a chance.

[belchardo]

jedinak dropped. surprises me a bit. reckon he is done for good then?

[MFKS]

jedinak dropped. surprises me a bit. reckon he is done for good then?
He been out injured for Villa

Made an abortive come back but hasn't played since so more of a case of injured still

[plague]

attn: Member.

quick question regarding the WC ticket virtual queue and ballots.

you said you had multiple applications in, if you happen to nail a couple of your applications could you cancel the ones you dont want or did you have to pay for whatever you applied and were successful at?


cheers,
Plague.

[MFKS]

attn: Member.

quick question regarding the WC ticket virtual queue and ballots.

you said you had multiple applications in, if you happen to nail a couple of your applications could you cancel the ones you dont want or did you have to pay for whatever you applied and were successful at?


cheers,
Plague.

If you were this lucky I don't think you really would be but for arguments sake you cracked the big time

I don't think you had the choice.

The lottery was done and they didn't announce the results
You got slugged a debit on your Credit Card

That was how I found out I had tickets

By following my internet banking once others on the net reported getting debited

The email confirmation came a day or so later

The only time they contacted you before payment is if your card bounced or some type of indiscepancy came up I believe

So i don't think you had the choice to cancel


They did though have a portal where you could put up any unwanted tickets back for resale to other punters

FIFA were taking about 10-15% commission though


That being said if you got too many tickets I wouldn't worry about getting rid of them

You will find plenty of takers who will take them from you.

Just don't corner the market in games like Greece V Ivory Coast in Brazil

People were literally giving them away as no one would pay cash for them

Lol

[plague]

legend.

thanks for the info boss.

[plague]

matthew ****ing jerman?

im off to bed.

[hawk]

Carn straya.

im on my death bed here sick as a tony hawk 6 pack. Surely a goal will stop the vom.

https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/CfMAAOSwDrlZiEv7/s-l225.jpg

[Jetmaster]

How consistently shit for the Socceroos are Leckie and Kruse ffs?

[hawk]

fo sho Brem....:rof::shock::(

[belchardo]

nobody finishes as coolly and clinically as leckie :facepalm:

[westjet]

How consistently shit for the Socceroos are Leckie and Kruse ffs?
And yet seem to be the first ones selected each game. So frustrating to watch them.

[plague]

in case you were wondering, we are at peak Leckie already with a handy dose of Kruse.


fold the ffa. we done.

[belchardo]

did milligan insult one of their mothers? they're kicking the shit out of him!

[belchardo]

ref is doing a good job

[belchardo]

ahahaha. leckie assists kruse. good play

[hawk]

clinical. Should always be 1st starters

[Jetmaster]

Leckie was shooting then ffs....will take it though.

[Imyourhero]

Kruse: doesn't go into 50/50s, makes forward runs & then takes his first touch backwards, first touch aids 90% of time, thinks he's Hazard

[Jetmaster]

Gone to sleep after 60 mins again and trying to hold on.

[belchardo]

geez, can't even jump for a cross anymore! soft as...

[Jetmaster]

Deserved a goal no matter how dodgy. I cant see this team qualifying. They are not good enough.

[westjet]

Terrible call by the ref but certainly cant say Syria dont deserve a goal. We look so poor when teams press against us. Comfortable in first half when Syria just stood and watched. Cant contol the ball as soon as they start chasing the game and close down the space. Like watching GVE football.

[Jardelsimage]

Kruse: doesn't go into 50/50s, makes forward runs & then takes his first touch backwards, first touch aids 90% of time, thinks he's Hazard

also doesn't know how to arc his runs into the box, he is shit...goal or not.

[belchardo]

i think last night categorically answered in the negative the question: can leckie play as a defender? as soon as risdon went off we started getting smashed down the right (where leckie was). syria were coming into it before then (probably because every time milligan saw the ball coming towards him he reflexively braced for the impending ankle crunch), but that change made all the difference.

syria did deserve a point.

leckie's two misses and then juric hitting the post twice in 2 seconds basically cost us the two points. we are just not clinical in front of goal. sam kerr would have got all 3.

[Jetmaster]

So (even allowing for injury), that was Kruse' first goal for 2 years. As a forward why does he get the gig without question? How many goals total has he scored in those 2 years? How many games played? As noted above he can't keep onside, his first touch is very poor, he has not been able to deliver telling crosses, he pulls out of 50/50s and waves around and curses the world when he yet again stuffs up. He scored just through being in the right place at the right time from a position where even he couldn't miss.

He and Leckie are talented flat track bullies who certainly do not look world class or confident when they play at this level. They have had enough chances and should we get knocked out on Tuesday they need to be part of the cleanout.

We need winners out there on Tuesday - I'd sooner have Brosque and Timmy up front than those twits.

[MFKS]

Can whinge all you like about Leckie

Bloke is playing and scoring and doing well in the Bundesliga

Based on his level of performance at club level he is in the side as other than Mooy there no one else doing it at his level

Add in the fact he scoring somewhat regularly in the last 12/18 months and Ange has backed him for 4 years then he in the side whilst Ange is there and probably for another 6 months after Ange goes until the next bloke realises he is a clown

Kruse on the other hand has barely ****ing played
No different really to Ange's love in with Brad Smith or the ****ing Gypo in goals

FFS Birraz and BK not even in the squad and they picking this clown

Remember when Schwarzer was keeper and he regularly saved our arses ??
Gypo has made what saves for us in his NT career??

Nothing

[Bremsstrahlung]

1481

[Jetmaster]

I want Leckie to take club form to international level - reminds me of Scott MacDonald.

We lack class - guys like Mooy, Timmy, Milligan, Sainsbury look confident.

Leckie, Kruse, Juric, Rogic et al look like deer in the headlights sometimes wondering where their club form is.

[belchardo]

Can whinge all you like about Leckie

Bloke is playing and scoring and doing well in the Bundesliga

Based on his level of performance at club level he is in the side as other than Mooy there no one else doing it at his level

Add in the fact he scoring somewhat regularly in the last 12/18 months and Ange has backed him for 4 years then he in the side whilst Ange is there and probably for another 6 months after Ange goes until the next bloke realises he is a clown

Kruse on the other hand has barely ****ing played
No different really to Ange's love in with Brad Smith or the ****ing Gypo in goals

FFS Birraz and BK not even in the squad and they picking this clown

Remember when Schwarzer was keeper and he regularly saved our arses ??
Gypo has made what saves for us in his NT career??

Nothing

i honestly can't work out if you're serious or just looking for a bite re ryan.

[The Dunster]

Does Kruse suffer from Asthma or is he just an unfit khunt who should not be playing at this level ? Because he was sucking in the big ones within the first ten mins of the game.

[MFKS]

i honestly can't work out if you're serious or just looking for a bite re ryan.

I am serious about him

Forget his club situation

Performance wise as a Socceroo he turns in 6/10 performances all the time

To be given the no 1 gig when other blokes like Langerak Federici Jones Birraz Vukoshit etc are about and not even have to fight or perform to earn it

Don't forget the bloke barely played in La Liga and still kept getting picked ala Brad Smith

To me he is massively over rated

[Jardelsimage]

Does Kruse suffer from Asthma or is he just an unfit khunt who should not be playing at this level ? Because he was sucking in the big ones within the first ten mins of the game.

what you saying Ange has a big one!!!!

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I am serious about him

Forget his club situation

Performance wise as a Socceroo he turns in 6/10 performances all the time

To be given the no 1 gig when other blokes like Langerak Federici Jones Birraz Vukoshit etc are about and not even have to fight or perform to earn it

Don't forget the bloke barely played in La Liga and still kept getting picked ala Brad Smith

To me he is massively over rated

Ryan made 4-5 quality saves last night.

You can't say he didnt perform or keep us in the game.

[Imyourhero]

I think Ryan has definetly been given gametime too easily for the Socceroos recently but credit wheres its due he was MOTM for me last night.

[plague]

2nd half was trash.
I hate Kruse and Leckie.
We deserve nothing.

Syria were trash too.

[380]

I want Leckie to take club form to international level - reminds me of Scott MacDonald.

We lack class - guys like Mooy, Timmy, Milligan, Sainsbury look confident.

Leckie, Kruse, Juric, Rogic et al look like deer in the headlights sometimes wondering where their club form is.

Whole team are a bunch of Scott MacDonalds, great at club level shit when they put on the green and gold. Team need a colorectal surgeon on the coaching staff to rectify this problem of playing like busted assholes all too often.

[MFKS]

Whole team are a bunch of Scott MacDonalds, great at club level shit when they put on the green and gold. Team need a colorectal surgeon on the coaching staff to rectify this problem of playing like busted assholes all too often.
Or maybe just maybe they are not really that good??

Like look where they playing 1-2 in the EPL 1 Bundesliga and none of them are starring in it with the big fish and the rest in 3rd world leagues

[MFKS]

Yanks just thumped Panama to put them in the box seat for qualification

So assuming they get something in Trinidad and Tobago which they should they be going to Russia and the Aussies be looking at Panama/Honduras if they get by Syria this week

[Bremsstrahlung]

How are Honduras?
I always thought they’d be a dangerous one to come up against but their GD was -9 this morning... that’s a plus for our dodgy attack. Panama has a much more formidable GD but I remember Honduras to be a pretty handy team at the last World Cup.

[MFKS]

How are Honduras?
I always thought they’d be a dangerous one to come up against but their GD was -9 this morning... that’s a plus for our dodgy attack. Panama has a much more formidable GD but I remember Honduras to be a pretty handy team at the last World Cup.

I watched them play Ecuador and France live

They dogged the France game from min 1

Basically accepted defeat

V Ecuador they got a goal and lead which got them in the game but were run down 2-1

They nothing to be scared shitless of

[Retro Jet]

On form it looks like it'll be Panama, assuming we win on Tue.
Cue the Van Halen references.

[MFKS]

Honduras let in a last minute goal to Costa Rica away which has set it up as such

USA on 12 pts playing away at last played Trinidad and Tobago

A win guarantees qualification and a draw will do the same if there not something absurd happening with 7-8 goal turn around on goal difference

Honduras are at home to Mexico
Panama are at home to Costa Rica

Both are on 10 pts
Honduras -7 GD
Panama -2 GD

So probability is on Syria / Australia will end up in Panama in November

[MFKS]

Got tickets for the game but you got to lovee City rail

Right on queue a bit of late night track work is on so another late night visit to bus it between Gosford and Wyong breaking up any chance of some sleep

Useless as per usual

[Retro Jet]

Panama :blush:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcG4SHKp7dY

Geezzz...and I thought our defence was bad. (and slow)
Just a question of how potent our forwards would be, come the moment.

[Jetmaster]

Honduras let in a last minute goal to Costa Rica away which has set it up as such

USA on 12 pts playing away at last played Trinidad and Tobago

A win guarantees qualification and a draw will do the same if there not something absurd happening with 7-8 goal turn around on goal difference

Honduras are at home to Mexico
Panama are at home to Costa Rica

Both are on 10 pts
Honduras -7 GD
Panama -2 GD

So probability is on Syria / Australia will end up in Panama in November

Would love to see Syria v USA just for the logistic lulz.

[Wilso8948]

Would love to see Syria v USA just for the logistic lulz.

This is fantastic.

[goaliepersempre]

Big Games on Tuesday.. aus-syria and then Portugal vs Switzerland...

[MFKS]

Wake up today and the first thought is I hope these useless Gypos Ange insists on selecting don't **** this up tonight

Aussie Football has a way of shooting itself in the foot

It almost feels like time is upon us

[Bremsstrahlung]

Iceland all but through, bar 2 x miracles for Kosovo and ukraine.
Jumping on their band-Vikingship if all goes belly up.

[baldrick]

Iceland all but through

TBH, more excited about this than the Socceroos.

[sorefootballer]

We will win and we will win comfortably

[belchardo]

whatever happened to vikingjet. did he sail off into the sunset in the mythical (and long-promised) paddlesteamer?

[Jetmaster]

Ange yesterday talking like it was his last game - whatever happens tonight he is not the same coach he was a couple of years ago.

Something is broke.

[plague]

Wales and that top-knot wearing clown ain’t coming to Russia.

Eat it, top-knot boy.

[MFKS]

Ange yesterday talking like it was his last game - whatever happens tonight he is not the same coach he was a couple of years ago.

Something is broke.

I think it more context to media asking him the could this be your last game question rather than a condemned man knowing it ending soon

I don't think anything broken as such. I just thinking Ange getting shitted at the constant criticism coming his way on bullshit like formation and 3 at the back

[StannyCFCJET]

I think it more context to media asking him the could this be your last game question rather than a condemned man knowing it ending soon

I don't think anything broken as such. I just thinking Ange getting shitted at the constant criticism coming his way on bullshit like formation and 3 at the back

It's all valid and deserved criticism though

[380]

Ange yesterday talking like it was his last game - whatever happens tonight he is not the same coach he was a couple of years ago.

Something is broke.


Agreed. Bloke has been getting around like he is on his period for the past 12 months.

[Wilso8948]

One of the two Syrian strikers Omar Khribin is out tonight. He looked a constant threat along with the tall no.9 last game. Big loss for them.

[MFKS]

It's all valid and deserved criticism though

No it's not valid and deserved criticism

The formation and the 3 at the back issue is complete and utter shit

The carry on from Joe public who have **** all understanding of the intracacies in football formations has been over the top

Ange no doubt is stubborn and does things HIS way but he has always done that

Our qualification campaign so far yes it disjointed yes it hasn't exactly been smooth sailing but people seem to forget we doing it with some shit **** footballers playing at very average standards professionally and we have to keep doing it with a fossil out thete in Timmy for someone with experience of qualifying for a WC

Our WC campaign is the reflection of poor work by FFA in the last 10 years with their running of the code and the ****wits like Osieck and Verbeek who refused to blood younger players

Ange has been dealt shit cards from day 1
Qualifying for Russia or not we going to be in a much better position for Qatar qualifiers than we ever were for this lot and that will be thanks to Ange

[StannyCFCJET]

No it's not valid and deserved criticism

The formation and the 3 at the back issue is complete and utter shit

The carry on from Joe public who have **** all understanding of the intracacies in football formations has been over the top

Ange no doubt is stubborn and does things HIS way but he has always done that

Our qualification campaign so far yes it disjointed yes it hasn't exactly been smooth sailing but people seem to forget we doing it with some shit **** footballers playing at very average standards professionally and we have to keep doing it with a fossil out thete in Timmy for someone with experience of qualifying for a WC

Our WC campaign is the reflection of poor work by FFA in the last 10 years with their running of the code and the ****wits like Osieck and Verbeek who refused to blood younger players

Ange has been dealt shit cards from day 1
Qualifying for Russia or not we going to be in a much better position for Qatar qualifiers than we ever were for this lot and that will be thanks to Ange

Yes it is. Players arnt comfortable with this system or are played out of position or are picked and played when not match fit. This all comes down to Ange sticking with this system and making his squad/tacical selections.

[Jetmaster]

The world has moved on from the Barcelona ticky tacky and Ange has struggled with the changeover.

We should let them have it at the start and score first - not play the system and be patient, which worked so well against the Thais.....

If Syria score first there won't be much game to watch, just lots of writhing, sniping and kicking balls away.

[MFKS]

Yes it is. Players arnt comfortable with this system or are played out of position or are picked and played when not match fit. This all comes down to Ange sticking with this system and making his squad/tacical selections.

Players aren't ****ing good enough

Could play 4-4-2
Could play 4-3-3
Could play 4-5-1

Could play whatever formation you want
Could play kick and rush
Could play whatever style you want
Could pick 11 different players altogether

Will not escape the fact this is a poorly talented lot of players

But no we will keep blaming Ange

[Jetmaster]

Agree we have shit cattle - but Ange needs to stop trying to make them play like Barca et al as they aren't capable.

[StannyCFCJET]

Agree we have shit cattle - but Ange needs to stop trying to make them play like Barca et al as they aren't capable.

100%

[Wilso8948]

The Memba is talking some sense here. Our 'international' footballers have the touch of a rapist. The system isn't the problem. Nor is the coach.

[PC14]

I think it is important to note, that throughout this campaign, playing this same formation/system, we have only lost 1 game.

Players playing out of position - It's really only been Leckie and it was highlighted last week when he was moved back to the wing back position Ange has persisted playing him.

I'll see if I can find it, but Simon Hill wrote an interesting article post Syria on Thursday. Basically said how Australia, as a footballing nation, might be a little arrogant in their perception of Asian Football. That maybe we underestimate it. He used the A-League as evidence - of the 45 (ish) visa players in the A-League, theirs only a handful, maybe less, that are from our confederation. Made and interesting read and probably isn't too far fetched.

**Meanwhile, it's been reported Mooy has been benched tonight.

[Macca]

I think we definitely are arrogant / entitled that we deserve to be at the world cup. Wales got knocked out of qualifying today - this is a team with Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey, Joe Allen and some other players better than anyone we have playing for us. They recently made the semis of the Euros.

Its also easy to see whenever we play these "minnows" that we should apparently be mopping the floor with in Asia that they usually have players with more technical skill than us, despite the infrastructure advantages we would enjoy over most of them.

Don't get me wrong, I think we should be able to qualify - but its not as if it would be a huge failure to not do so. Most of our current players are not that good, and there will be teams better than us in Europe and South America not qualifying.

[q-money]

mooy on the bench wowee, bold strategy from mr sweaty man

[plague]

mooy on the bench wowee, bold strategy from mr sweaty man

I think this is only due to the fact that Mooy and Rogic are trash together.

Plus if he’s starting Cahill then Rogic is the only bloke capable of scoring for us.

Prob pack the mids with Luoungo Troisi Milligan and hope for a miracle from the 2 bags of walking arthritis up front.


Go team.

[The Dunster]

Syria deserve to go through not Australia. Hopefully the result goes Syrias way tonight and Australian football gets the wake-up call it needs.

[MFKS]

At the ground now

Didn't realise there was this many Syrians in Australia

Loud ****ers two hours before kick off

Drums whistles and even vuvuzuelas

[boz-monaut]

start a 'why are you here when Lavant is burning?' chant

[Imyourhero]

Brad f****ing Smith....

[Jetmaster]

Troisi, Leckie, Kruse, Cahill, Rogic....could go horribly wrong but also could score 3 in the first half if it clicked.

Ange has gone all or bust.

[MFKS]

start a 'why are you here when Lavant is burning?' chant

No if I want to start a chant I start the we are bombing you in the morning one

Because there a pretty good chance the Oz military will be involved in blowing some shit up over there tomorrow morning

At least I be sticking to reality and facts

[MFKS]

How the **** is Timmy playing??


Like seriously the bloke is struggling at HAL level and we starting him in a do or die WCQ??

FMD

[MFKS]

Top work Gypos

[380]

Ange doing his best to make himself available for Wankerers job.

[boz-monaut]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0G17qxAMLzQkVxdu/giphy.gif

[MFKS]

One moreCahill

[StannyCFCJET]

How the **** is Timmy playing??


Like seriously the bloke is struggling at HAL level and we starting him in a do or die WCQ??

FMD

You were saying?

[plague]

i actually feel really sorry for Kruse at the moment.
as punchable as his face is, the bloke is so low on confidence at the moment.
the only thing you can put it down to is his body having betrayed him time and time again, it must just destroy you.

what doesnt help is Cahill screaming at him (and others) no matter what he does. Cahill gave him bucket loads all game then the one time Kruse needed to shoot he tried to tee up Cahill to keep him happy.

im beginning to really despise watching Cahill on this team.

also, this is Leckies best game for as long as i can remember.

Member though is bang on as usual, 1st touch by majority of these blokes is honking.

[Jetmaster]

Somebody please kill this horrible game.

[Grimario]

Dire

[The Dunster]

Soft 2nd yellow for the Syrian lad.

[hawk]

still watching on delay 1-1 and dont care anymore

We are gash on all angles.

Over engineered play, defence flimsy unorganised and no confidence in each other, takes 3 passes to go where a one touch should've gone, we're easy to read in all areas, zero flare, Ange is a one trick pony in too many areas, players simply dont have the class either.

Restart the whole system

[plague]

What’s the Syrian word for ‘awful’?

[plague]

Ernie Merrick has just been named new Socceroos coach.

[380]

Need to make Roy Aussie

[MFKS]

You were saying?

Goals aside why is he on the park??

No movement at all

Kills our attack having an old bloke who don't run

These ****s didn't deserve to win

Shit really

[MFKS]

You know football in Australia is ****ed when the Jets are on top of the A League and the Socceroos are arseing results like that

Drain the ****ing pond

[belchardo]

Over engineered play

this x1000. i don't get why we try all this fancy '28 passes before we shoot' bullshit. you know, sometimes it's best just to kick the shit out of it. zads got it.

[380]

Goals aside why is he on the park??

No movement at all

Kills our attack having an old bloke who don't run

These ****s didn't deserve to win

Shit really

In part i agree with this sentiment and if anything it just goes to show what a sad situation we as a national team find ourselves in when we are relying on a 37 year old to pull us out of the shit time and time again with his nogg'n.

Somehow the Australian team lost its way with blokes leaving Australia to play overseas in the hope of there game going to the next level ie Leckie Kruise etc but they have not improved in the way we need/ed them to. I look at blokes like Nathan Burns and wonder " if only ". I did not have much time for the late Mike Cockerall particularly given he made a career out of giving his opinion but when jets fans dare voice our opinion about his old mate Phil Stumblins all of a sudden giving an opinion was a no no. He did though however put together a very interesting read in regards to Nathan Burns about that next step and being the next Harry of Australian football and by my reckoning and this is IMO but you could also add players like Rukavytska and Vidosic. I know Ruka played tonight but a few years ago he looked like potentially being very handy but he and many others have just not found that next gear. Too many have got lost in o/seas club wilderness and lack of game time has seen them not improve enough or as much as we would like or think they would.

We have exported plenty now from the A League but IMO the improvement to there game is negligble and this is why the national team stinks at the minute. I don't know what is worse sometimes, being made to sit through a Nix game and listening to those commentators or watching the Socceroos rely on a ageing player have to save our asses all too often.

[plague]

you all realise weve gone full circle and are back to being a bunch of handy part time scrappers punching above our weight.

good on the little aussie battler spirit.

just like the good ole days.

[MFKS]

Just watched some highlights back of that Syrian goal

Firstly does Milligan do a good StevieG impersonation or what

Secondly what the **** was Sainsbury doing??

He neither took the bloke with the ball nor took the goal scorer

Amatuer defending really. Yeah I understand he left exposed by Stevie G in front but we had blokes about and no one took anyone
It was actually a 2 v 4 situation and Sainsbury didn't step up and force one offside nor close close the **** down with the ball

The quality of the final ball though was exquisite. How come our blokes can't play passes like that ??

[Wilso8948]

Just watched some highlights back of that Syrian goal

Firstly does Milligan do a good StevieG impersonation or what

Secondly what the **** was Sainsbury doing??

He neither took the bloke with the ball nor took the goal scorer

Amatuer defending really. Yeah I understand he left exposed by Stevie G in front but we had blokes about and no one took anyone
It was actually a 2 v 4 situation and Sainsbury didn't step up and force one offside nor close close the **** down with the ball

The quality of the final ball though was exquisite. How come our blokes can't play passes like that ??

I agree with Sainsbury however bloke was immense for the rest of the game. It can't be understated how much of a quality player the Syrian no.9 Ol Sama or whatever his name is. He was controlled by Sainsbury much more than last week.

Also Degenek tackle in the 118min mark in the box... Holy ****ing shit what a ballsy move. That for me is the highlight of the game.

[Jetmaster]

I don't care if there is a 67 year old on the field if he consistently scores goals. The problem I had was you put Timmy there and didn't play the football to utilise that strength. Too many times they tried to walk the ball in and too many times players like Kruse were in a position to cross but cut back and then passed to Mooy or Rogic.

Just try something different now and then and be more direct, but Ange's mantra is to stick to the system. I recall a game the Roar had against Wellington at home in Ange's last season. Wellington went 1-0 up and at no stage did a Roar player launch in a cross. It always went back to MacKay or Broich, backwards and forwards across the field. It was boring to watch and the gaps they were looking for didn't appear.

The quality of the players we have does not suit the style of game Ange wants.

[Imyourhero]

We're gonna win the league!!

[Imyourhero]

Sorry wrong thread....

[Couscous]

I thought we were great. Our passing was excellent for much of the game, except for the crossing.

Syria played in an extremely compact formation. When good players do that - and the Syrian players are good - it's always hard to score.

We deserved to win easily. In the end, we won tough. Whatever, it was the fair result.

[PC14]

David Davutovic reporting Ange to quit next month, irrespective of qualification.

[Macca]

There was some good passing at times. Too often I felt blokes played a soft sideways pass for no gain instead of fizzing one up the middle to the advanced midfielders, which is when we were able to threaten. The surface seemed a fairly slow, there were quite a lot of underhit and soft passes.

Leckie is actually a good player when he is allowed to play as a winger and take on his man. Also pretty good in the air. He's not a good defender and he's not a good passer, so asking him to stand on the sideline and receive the ball then play it inside over and over is no good.

Majority of the crossing from the left was woeful, mainly Kruse and later Rukavytsa. Kruse was pretty honking to be honest, but could be what senor plague mentioned about confidence and getting backing from teammates.

I don't know if its that the players are not capable or that they've just had it stamped out of them by Ange valuing possession too highly. But we need to take more risks in the final third. Try the little flicks and first time passes. Try taking on the man when its on. Whip a ball in, have a shot etc. We don't need to play direct but if you only ever play a pass that has a 98% chance of success you'll never get anywhere. Troisi is one that did try some invention up there and nearly came off a couple times. And Mooy when he was able to get further up the park.

[MFKS]

I agree with Sainsbury however bloke was immense for the rest of the game. It can't be understated how much of a quality player the Syrian no.9 Ol Sama or whatever his name is. He was controlled by Sainsbury much more than last week.

Also Degenek tackle in the 118min mark in the box... Holy ****ing shit what a ballsy move. That for me is the highlight of the game.
But that really is the problem with Sainsbury

For 89 mins he plays well. But there that 1 cock up in him

The cock up that managers around the world see and then use that as a reason to knock back signing him

Same with the penalty in the first leg. He back there marking no one for a cross into the box in the last 5 mins and Leckie marking the striker.

Amateur mistakes really

[StannyCFCJET]

Ange leaving in November regardless of WC qualification. https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/ange-postecoglou-to-quit-as-socceroos-coach-next-month-even-if-australia-qualify-for-world-cup-report/news-story/3dae448948ff5707871bcf6721ca11d6

[MFKS]

David Davutovic reporting Ange to quit next month, irrespective of qualification.

Coaching WSW is he??

[MFKS]

20 something mins in to CONCACAF games

Honduras 0 Mexico 1
Panama 0 Cost Rica 0
Trinidad and Tobago 1 USA 0

Currently it Panama we playing still as ladder not alter with these results

[MFKS]

HT in CONCACAF games

Honduras 1 Mexico 2
Panama 0 Cost Rica 1
Trinidad and Tobago 2 USA 0

Currently it Panama we playing still as ladder not alter with these results

[MFKS]

60 mins in CONCACAF games

Honduras 3 Mexico 2
Panama 1 Cost Rica 1
Trinidad and Tobago 2 USA 1

Currently it USA we playing

[lquiquer]

In South America I think chile are goooone........ New Zealand - Peru I think

[Premy]

Keep the updates coming member good job.

[MFKS]

In South America I think chile are goooone........ New Zealand - Peru I think

Yep

Chile gone

Funniest thing in the Peru game in the last 2 mins

Colombia through
Peru in a play off

Everyone happy

So Peru play keep ball back and forth across half way with the occasional Colombian getting close enough to make it look like they were not fixing the result

It was ****ing comical watching it

Both teams happy with it Peru though would have qualified direct with a last minute goal but getting the Kiwis is basically being qualified anyway

[MFKS]

70 mins in CONCACAF games

Honduras 3 Mexico 2
Panama 1 Cost Rica 1
Trinidad and Tobago 2 USA 1

Currently it USA we playing

Still thinking be some more twists

[lquiquer]

Breaking news.... Ange to quit in November even if we qualify for Russia....

[StannyCFCJET]

Breaking news.... Ange to quit in November even if we qualify for Russia....

Should sack him now so we can get away with this system that a new coach wont be using

[MFKS]

10 to go

Same same

Yanks have hit the post

[lquiquer]

Gombau In ??

[MFKS]

88 mins

Panama score 2-1

Honduras it is Yanks are out as it stands

[lquiquer]

Panama score

We currently play Honduras..US out

[Jetmaster]

Loving this mornings drama!

Compare this to qualifying for the eggball World Cup!

[lquiquer]

we ****ed

[MFKS]

Should see the two Trinidad goals

Mother of own goals from 15 yards into top corner and a 30 yard belter into the top corner from near sideline

[lquiquer]

Official: Honduras

[MFKS]

FT
USA lose

Panama win

Honduras game is dragging as their fans doing pitch invasions

[MFKS]

FT in the Honduras game

Mexicans screwed the Yanks

Panama qualify

Honduras v Australia

The massive thing is this

The Yanks are one of the best travelling groups for a WC
Obviously have cash and ability to travel. Throw in the Yank sponsors and FIFA's interest in developing the game in USA and this is a massive massive bad day

[PC14]

The Yanks are one of the best travelling groups for a WC
Obviously have cash and ability to travel. Throw in the Yank sponsors and FIFA's interest in developing the game in USA and this is a massive massive bad day

This. It's quite remarkable.

[MFKS]

https://youtu.be/_6HLwSdIClI.
Check out the oggy

[MFKS]

https://youtu.be/OidpCrh0Ouc

Check out the second goal for Honduras

Crossbar keepers head and into the net

Lol

[Mitchy]

Panama score

We currently play Honduras..US out



https://youtu.be/_6HLwSdIClI.
Check out the oggy

Can’t help but laugh with both of them goals