14/15 HAL Round 16 | Newcastle Jets V Brisbane Roar | Hunter Stadium 06/02/15 KO 1940

[Jeterpool]

2014/15 A-League Round 16 Preview – Newcastle Jets v Brisbane Roar


FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 29 games between the two teams.
Jets Wins – 12, Roar Wins – 10, Drawn – 7


In Newcastle – 14 games
Jets Wins – 3, Roar Wins – 8, Drawn – 5

Average Home A-League crowd – 9933

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 30, Roar – 33

Cards in Fixture
Jets – 69 (63 Yellow, 6 Red), Roar – 44 (40 Yellow, 4 Red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets – LDLLW
Roar – WLDDW

Leading Scorers
Jets – Joel Griffiths, Jeronimo Neumann, Edson Montano 3. Roar – Henrique - 7

Last Result -
Jets 0 – Roar 4 (Henrique, 49’, 72’, 89’, Steve Lustica 66’) at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 5, 08/11/2014.

FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Bridge 9’, J Griffiths 53’, Bridge 77’) – Roar 0 at Suncorp Stadium, Round 16, Season 2, 07/12/2006.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Roar 5 (Reinaldo 10’, Richter 44’, Brosque 52’, McKay 83’, Murdocca 90+1’), Round 20, Season 1 at Energy Australia Stadium, 26/01/2006.

Leading Scorers in fixture –

Jets – 8 (Joel Griffiths)
Roar – 7 (Reinaldo)


2014/15 SEASON STATISTICS

Appearances

15 David Carney, Joel Griffiths, Edson Montano
14 Andrew Hoole
13 Jeronimo Neumann, Kew Jaliens
12 Zenon Caravella, Jacob Pepper
11 Scott Neville
10 Ben Kantarovski, Adrian Madaschi, Allan Wesh
9 Sam Gallagher, Ben Kennedy
8 James Virgili
6 Mark Birrighiti , Marco Flores,
5 Taylor Regan, Sam Gallaway,
4, Billy Celeski,
2 Jonny Steele
1 Nicholas Cowburn, Radovan Pavicevic


Goals

3 Joel Griffiths, Edson Montano, Jeronimo Neumann
1 Kew Jaliens, Marco Flores



Assists

3 David Carney
2 Andrew Hoole
1 Joel Griffiths, Scott Neville, Jacob Pepper, Taylor Regan, Jeronimo Neumann, Adrian Madaschi



Yellow Cards

5 Kew Jaliens
4 Adrian Madaschi
3 Taylor Regan, Jeronimo Neumann, Andrew Hoole, Edson Montano, James Virgili,
2 Jacob Pepper, Marcos Flores, David Carney, Scott Neville Joel Griffiths,
1 Jonny Steele, Allan Welsh, Ben Kantarovski, Sam Gallaway, Mitch Cooper, Zenon Caravella,



Red Cards

1 Kew Jaliens


COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 match
Phil Stubbins - 0 wins, Mike Mulvey - 1 win, 0 drawn,

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Phil Stubbins - 1 Match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = -% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 17 matches (9 wins, 3 drawn and 5 losses = 53% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 wins, 4 drawn, 1 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = 100% win ratio)
Craig Deans - 0 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = -% win ratio)

Brisbane Roar Coach Record – Mike Mulvey 17% win ratio (1 win, 1 drawn, 4 loss).


KEY FACTS:

The last match against Brisbane the Jets conceded 4 second half goals.
Our last match was the most goals we have conceded in a first half.
Kew Jaliens would have been suspended for this match
The Jets haven’t conceded a goal against Brisbane in 231 minutes of football and have kept 4 clean sheets in 5 matches.
In 29 matches, the victorious team has won by 1 goal on 16 occasions. The most common score line being 1-0, which has occurred 9 times.
The Jets have never beaten Brisbane at home on a Friday night.
The Jets haven’t scored a first half goal against the Roar at home in the last 4 matches.
The Jets have received 41 bookings and 1 red card this season. Opposition players have only received 10 bookings this season. This is the worst disciplinary record we have had at this stage of a season.
7 of the 10 red cards in this fixture have been shown at Hunter Stadium.
After 15 rounds, the least number of goals the Jets have scored was in Season 6 (11). However this Season is the most number of goals the Jets have conceded with 35 with the next closest being Season 8 with 28.



Jets v Roar Trivia:
1. Henrique one of 3 players to score a hatrick against the Jets. Who are the other 2?

2. Brisbane were the second team to have scored 4 goals in the second half against the Jets. Who was the first team to do this and who were the four scorers?

3. Who are the 10 Jets players to have lead the team out against the Brisbane/Queensland Roar?

[Hunter403]

1. Henrique one of 3 players to score a hat trick against the Jets. Who are the other 2? Does this include the ones who will likely get a hat trick this week?

[Tommyjet]

1. James Meyer

[leftrightout]

1. Reinaldo?

[Jeterpool]

1. Henrique one of 3 players to score a hat trick against the Jets. Who are the other 2? Does this include the ones who will likely get a hat trick this week?


1. James Meyer

No and No.

[MFKS]

Djite got a hatty for Palmers mob a few years ago

[Jeterpool]

Djite got a hatty for Palmers mob a few years ago

That's one.

I guess the one thing we have going for us is they play Wellington tonight

[Grimario]

Koren got a hatty only a month or so back, didn't he?

[Grimario]

3. Okon, Zelic, North, Thompson, Wheelhouse, Zads, Jaliens. Bridges? Griff? Ryu?

[Grimario]

2. Given that you say "The last match against Bridbane the Jets conceded 4 second half goals." in the trivia bit... is it Bridbane in our last match? Henrique x3, Lustica x1. Or is this worded in such a way that makes it misleading...

[Jeterpool]

Koren got a hatty only a month or so back, didn't he?

He did. That's the two.


3. Okon, Zelic, North, Thompson, Wheelhouse, Zads, Jaliens. Bridges? Griff? Ryu?

1. Zelic - three times
2. Okon - once
3. - ?
4. North - seven
5. Thompson - three
6. Bridges - Once
7. ?
8. Wheelhouse - Four
9. Zads - Five
10. Kew - Once

[Jeterpool]

2. Given that you say "The last match against Bridbane the Jets conceded 4 second half goals." in the trivia bit... is it Bridbane in our last match? Henrique x3, Lustica x1. Or is this worded in such a way that makes it misleading...

Typo, and question fixed. Shouldn't do this stuff during work lunch break.

[Grimario]

Ljubo? He was deputy to Bridges... I think.

[Premy]

He did. That's the two.



1. Zelic - three times
2. Okon - once
3. - ?
4. North - seven
5. Thompson - three
6. Bridges - Once
7. ?
8. Wheelhouse - Four
9. Zads - Five
10. Kew - Once
Covney and Ljubo

[BodyNovo]

carle and ljubo

[BodyNovo]

1. bruce djite (was at the game, it was the game zang zhou or whatever his name was scored)

2. Perth glory season 1. was 1-1 at HT on memory than they went riot and won 5-1. i don't remember all goal scorers but i do know harnwell scored.

[Grimario]

1. bruce djite (was at the game, it was the game zang zhou or whatever his name was scored)

2. Perth glory season 1. was 1-1 at HT on memory than they went riot and won 5-1. i don't remember all goal scorers but i do know harnwell scored.

****, I remember that. Mori scored two. Maybe one of them before the half, the other after? Despotovski probably scored... or had he retired by then?

[Tommyjet]

3. Wehrman?

[Jeterpool]

carle and ljubo

Nice


****, I remember that. Mori scored two. Maybe one of them before the half, the other after? Despotovski probably scored... or had he retired by then?

Ok you're done. You can't play any more. I'll have to remember scorers later. More scored twice - first half. Sekulovski got another. harnwell too. Unsure fifth

[Nou Camp]

so who is actually available for us this Friday?

[Bon]

so who is actually available for us this Friday?

Good question..
Wouldn't they normally have put out the "extended squad list" on facey or wherever for us to check out by now?

[Grimario]

Good question..
Wouldn't they normally have put out the "extended squad list" on facey or wherever for us to check out by now?

Everyone we have on the books is the squad.

***One to be omitted***

[lil_masi]

Everyone we have on the books is the squad.

***One to be omitted***

Reagan announced as capo tomorrow. Captaincy to be rotated until end of season lol wtf

[belchardo]

so who is actually available for us this Friday?

me, but will need to ask the boss to let me off early. can bring own gold jersey.

[Jeterpool]

OK bet's being placed -
will Phil Stubbins stand on the sideline or will he watch from the security of a box?

Will Stubbins show his face before the game? He usually watches the warm up from the side near the tunnel.

Will Tinkler be there?

Will Stubbins react to the fans or just give them the cold shoulder, or clap as GvE used to when we were all abusing him?



My bet:

1. He'll be defiant and watch from the sideline
2. He won't appear before the match
3. If he's as big a fan as he says he is, Tinkler will be there. My guess is he won't.
4. Stubbins will walk out without looking at the crowd.

[Jeterpool]

Reagan announced as capo tomorrow. Captaincy to be rotated until end of season lol wtf

Piss take or serious?

[Bon]

My bet:

1. Sideline
2. Nope
3. I think Tinks actually will be there, not to support the team, but pretty much as a big "fvck you, its my team" to the FFA..
4. Cold shoulder.. Even when Body gets drunk and stuck in to him.. hahaha

[lil_masi]

Piss take or serious?

Serious

[Jeterpool]

Serious

Far out. Under 6 stuff..."Taylor you're captain this week, Scott you're next week. No Andrew you've already had a turn".

I guess that's a result of sacking the leaders of your team.

No qualms with Taylor however, but I'm a little disappointed Mitch Cooper didn't get selected.

[northern_swan]

so who is actually available for us this Friday?

I'll pack my boots just in case.

[lquiquer]

I'll pack my boots just in case.

To kick Stubbins ?

[Grimario]

Good question..
Wouldn't they normally have put out the "extended squad list" on facey or wherever for us to check out by now?

Everyone we have on the books is the squad.

***One to be omitted***

Newcastle Jets squad vs. Brisbane Roar: 1. Jess VANSTRATTAN (Gk), 2. Scott NEVILLE, 3. Taylor REGAN (c), 5. Ben KANTAROVSKI, 8. Zenon CARAVELLA, 10. Travis COOPER, 11. Andrew HOOLE, 12. Sam GALLAGHER, 13. Edson MONTANO, 16. Jacob PEPPER, 18. Allan WELSH, 19. Mitch COOPER, 20. Ben KENNEDY (Gk), 21. Daniel MULLEN, 22. Lee KI-JE (visa pending), 26. Nicholas COWBURN, 27. Radovan PAVICEVIC *one to be omitted*
Ins: 1. Jess VANSTRATTAN (Gk) (new signing), 3. Taylor REGAN (promoted), 10. Travis COOPER (new signing), 19. Mitch COOPER (promoted), 21. Daniel MULLEN (new signing), 22. Lee KI-JE (new signing), 26. Nicholas COWBURN (promoted)

Outs: Mark BIRIGHITTI (Gk) (on loan – AS Varese), 4. Kew JALIENS (omitted), 6. Adrian MADASCHI (omitted), 9. Joel GRIFFITHS (omitted), 14. Billy CELESKI (omitted), 23. David CARNEY (omitted)
Unavailable: 15. Joshua BARRESI (knee – season), 17. James VIRGILI (ankle – 8 weeks)

[northern_swan]

To kick Stubbins ?

If need be

[hawk]

So Reagan couldnt get a game, others piss stubbins off, welcome back to team ahve an armband. and yes u/6s mentality.

Stubbins you are a brown tongueing fraud.

[MFKS]

Why isn't Lundy in the squad???

We are bare bones so give the ****ing kids a go you ****

[Jetmaster]

Tinks to walk on to immense boos but faces the crowd, smiling .....

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/9446/1751755-ted_dibiase01.jpg

[hawk]

Tinks at Newy football? yeah right

[belchardo]

Tinks at Newy football? yeah right

yeah, too many creditors would see him at the game. by the time the game finished his car would be surrounded with debt collectors.

[MFKS]

yeah, too many creditors would see him at the game. by the time the game finished his car would be surrounded with debt collectors.
Also be hit up by process servers requesting he fronts court

[hawk]

We need to lose 7-0 again in the hope of turning the club over.

Carrn reegz & BK let em go through. do it for the boyz and for me. I will pay in drinks

[MFKS]

We need to lose 7-0 again in the hope of turning the club over.

Carrn reegz & BK let em go through. do it for the boyz and for me. I will pay in drinks

Can you imagine the look on Phil's face whilst copping all manner of abuse from the fans these blokes shit all over him making him realise he is doomed

[Jeterpool]

Imagine the gloating from Phil if we win!!

[hawk]

Imagine the gloating from Phil if we win!!

exactly. please no

[MFKS]

Imagine the gloating from Phil if we win!!


The only way we win is our blokes are inspired by the fans and play for them and their shafted team mates. Stubbins management will not help them at all

[lquiquer]

The only way we win is our blokes are inspired by the fans and play for them and their shafted team mates. Stubbins management will not help them at all

Only one way we win that and I think we need rain.....And Puddle !!!

[late_to_the_game]

Why isn't Lundy in the squad???

We are bare bones so give the ****ing kids a go you ****

Rumor is he also told Phil what he thought.....

[hawk]

Rumor is he also told Phil what he thought.....

Big ups Lundy. respect

[mervan]

I read that Van Stratosphere is in for BK is that correct

[lquiquer]

I read that Van Stratosphere is in for BK is that correct

May as well sign Bozza then !!!!!

[MFKS]

Rumor is he also told Phil what he thought.....

Lundy comes across as the type to speak his mind from what I have seen:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[mervan]

Lundy comes across as the type to speak his mind from what I have seen:thumbsup::thumbsup:

That bull dust, you don't even know him, stop it

[MFKS]

That bull dust, you don't even know him, stop it

Never said I did I said he comes across as the type to speak his mind from what I have SEEN

[mervan]

Never said I did I said he comes across as the type to speak his mind from what I have SEEN

Quite the opposite

[WolfMan]

Game day, FIRE UP!!

[Jeterpool]

The only way we win is our blokes are inspired by the fans and play for them and their shafted team mates. Stubbins management will not help them at all

You reckon he'd admit that?

[hausmann]

Imagine the gloating from Phil if we win!!

Listening at his interviews at the moment. He is already talking as if a loss will be a win so long as it is played with the right "mentality".

[pv4]

I got on the winning margin to be 3 or more goals at $4.00. Even when Phil attempts to park the bus majorly, I'm still expecting a solid return here.

[Jeterpool]

Listening at his interviews at the moment. He is already talking as if a loss will be a win so long as it is played with the right "mentality".

Hmmmmm....

Win and we get "see, we were right with what we've done"

Lose and we get "It's been one week, let's give the players time to bed in and get to know each other"

There you go Phil, post match pre-ss conference done. Herald, you can start writing your article now.

[Grimario]

I got on the winning margin to be 3 or more goals at $4.00. Even when Phil attempts to park the bus majorly, I'm still expecting a solid return here.

Phil parks a bus like the ones seen in most post apocalyptic games that have all of the windows knocked out, the doors ripped off and you can just climb through them.

[MFKS]

Listening at his interviews at the moment. He is already talking as if a loss will be a win so long as it is played with the right "mentality".

If his team actually played with a mentality and purpose that would see us win games we wouldn't be in this mess.

Sometimes in football you don't get the results your performance deserves. We have not put in 1 performance all season deserving of a positive result. We have been rewarded accordingly bar one arsey win that on any other night would have seen Adelaide win with their dominance.

If the bloke had of actually knuckled down and chased performances in the first 15 rounds instead of wins we would not be in this predicament. Get the performances right and the wins will eventually take care of themselves. No he chases results and has neglected the area that will see results

[BodyNovo]

If his team actually played with a mentality and purpose that would see us win games we wouldn't be in this mess.

Sometimes in football you don't get the results your performance deserves. We have not put in 1 performance all season deserving of a positive result. We have been rewarded accordingly bar one arsey win that on any other night would have seen Adelaide win with their dominance.

If the bloke had of actually knuckled down and chased performances in the first 15 rounds instead of wins we would not be in this predicament. Get the performances right and the wins will eventually take care of themselves. No he chases results and has neglected the area that will see results

only game this year we truly deserved to win was gypos first round

every other game we have been shit for atleast 45 minutes.

game against adelaide when we done was robbery.

[pv4]

only game this year we truly deserved to win was gypos first round

True, but jeez that was a boring game.

Agreed we didn't deserve the Adelaide game. It was Adelaide's fault they didn't kick into gear until they were down though.

The only time this season I have watched a game and thought that even brief moments were exciting was WSW away, when Flores and Carney just took it up a notch. Other than that, I haven't seen a lot of team performances to warrant even a smile.

[Bon]

I got on the winning margin to be 3 or more goals at $4.00. Even when Phil attempts to park the bus majorly, I'm still expecting a solid return here.

Oh really? Might have to look at getting on this bet this arvo at the Tenzo..

[MFKS]

Oh really? Might have to look at getting on this bet this arvo at the Tenzo..

$4??

I would have taken $2.00

[Nou Camp]

Brisbane paying $1.61??? I thought it would be more like $1.10

[WolfMan]

Work mate got on them at 1.80. Dropped from 1.90 as he submitted his bet though

[My2BobsWorth]

Jets to win.
Tinks to be carried around the stadium by 12 gold coast meter maids dressed in gold, in protest of the gold protest.

[belchardo]

Jets to win.
Tinks to be carried around the stadium by 1200 gold coast meter maids dressed in gold, in protest of the gold protest.

fixed that for you. OHS and all that.

[borat]

Am expecting a line up of

----------------------Kennedy

Neville---------Mullen-------Regan-----Cowburn

------------Pepper---------------Kantarovski
-----------------------Caravella

---M Cooper----------------------------Hoole
------------------------Montano

Res

Van Stratten
Welsh
Lee Ki-Je
T Cooper
Pavecevic

[plague]

Can't be ****ed going.
Good luck to all and sundry.
Caaarrrnnn and all that.

[My2BobsWorth]

fixed that for you. OHS and all that.

He would be tethered to a gold airship to reduce the strain on the girls backs.
The airship would be captained by Bridgey dressed in a gold uniform.

[Blackmac79]

Both jets fans here (me and another bloke) wearing gold.

Tenzo ago go

[weston]

Disappointed. Can't watch. Got a friendly on tonight. I'm massively Devo.

Nah just kidding, I'm not. I'm taping it so I'll live the humiliation a few hours after you guys.

[belchardo]

sorry guys, looks like no Tara

[Grimario]

Stubbins interviewed on pre game. Didn't give a straight answer to a single question.

[Pico]

Stubbins on SBS news interview, I'm now not sure if we are a football team or a removalist company, all I know is we are apparently "moving forward".
I swear I've never heard an interview that had the one catch phrase repeated ad nauseam to every single question. It got to the point where I think he even said it back to back.

[Buddha]

Oh Monty I love you but how did you miss that :(

[Grimario]

That's the best five minutes of football we've played this season.

[Buddha]

What happened to Asian cup dugouts? Or did Tinkler sell them to pay the debts?

[Pico]

What happened to Asian cup dugouts? Or did Tinkler sell them to pay the debts?

They are to be modified down to suit the smaller size HAL squads/staff and distributed to all the clubs, probably in use next season or maybe for the finals when they can sell new obstructed seating to stop people complaining.

[belchardo]

Good to see we can still buy tickets for the asian cup though.

[belchardo]

Loving the new, moving forward, formation. Looks suspiciously like the old, going nowhere, formation. Both look a lot like buses.

[Pico]

Are the buses moving forward though?

Nothing moving forward spells moving forward success moving forward like moving forward 11 moving forward men moving forward in moving forward your moving forward own moving forward half

[belchardo]

Nice cool finish after several roar cock ups.

Victory for stubbins movin forward philosophy.

[Buddha]

I was really hoping we would get destroyed tonight.

[Hunter403]

Great. We scored.
Crap. Stubbins can say "I told you so"

So torn right now

[Pico]

Glacial movements are still faster than our ball movement.
We have pretty much parked the bus all game, great game plan from stubbins.
Very negative when we do have the chance to break quickly.
Still better than against Adelaide but then this Brisbane team is no Adelaide.
Mullen looks to be a great trade for gallaway :yay:
Mitch Cooper :wub:
Really wanted Lee to get some solid minutes as Gallagher is not improving at LB.

[Pico]

Brilliant substitution, leads to a welsh goal you da best stillborn!

[Grimario]

Welsh is a ****ing joke. What a disgraceful substitution it was anyway, on top and Nubbins goes full on negative.

[belchardo]

Stop blaming stubbins, he's already moving forward again and we shouldn't worry about the past. Least that's what stubbins said in the pre-game

[plague]

This is absolutely fantastic.

[Grimario]

I'm watching baseball now. What's happening post match?

[plague]

Any footage of signs/protest? Any sign of Tinks?
Was Stubbins there?

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Welsh is a ****ing joke. What a disgraceful substitution it was anyway, on top and Nubbins goes full on negative.

After the game Stubbins said 'in the last 10 minutes we were really trying to win the game'. He really does think we are muppets doesnt he? He made substitutions to waste time and was seen telling Kennedy to slow down his goal kicks.....Not that positive in my opinion.

We parked he bus and conceded 2 goals. I'm glad Phil is 'thrilled with the performance' though.

[The Dunster]

Vintage Stubbins substituting the two players that were dominating the opposition with a bloke that's never played A-league and another that isn't state league quality.

Stubbins can go **** himself.

[howardyou]

After the game Stubbins said 'in the last 10 minutes we were really trying to win the game'. He really does think we are muppets doesnt he? He made substitutions to waste time and was seen telling Kennedy to slow down his goal kicks.....Not that positive in my opinion.

We parked he bus and conceded 2 goals. I'm glad Phil is 'thrilled with the performance' though.

Does 'parking the bus' at home mean that we took a taxi? I'm confused...

[Grimario]

Vintage Stubbins substituting the two players that were dominating the opposition with a bloke that's never played A-league and another that isn't state league quality.

Stubbins can go **** himself.

Seriously, Welsh's brother must be shagging Stubbins daughter back in Adelaide or something. How the **** he is worthy of a HAL contract is beyond me.

[sammydog]

Who the **** makes a defensive substitution with under a minute to go when you are defending a free kick on the edge of the box.

Way to destabilise the defence and ensure hilarity occurs.

Stubbins is clueless, unless he was trying to throw away the point, then he is a tactical genius.

[the blue manc]

I was at the game, it was the boring half of football I have ever watched. I think they parked the bus when it was nil all. I even cheered when Brisbane scored the second goal.

[hawk]

not quite sure what game i saw but it was good catching up with everyone pregame

[Jeterpool]

Heaps of people stayed back to commiserate with Stubbins on a difficult loss. They all lined the tunnel to wish him all the best but he took a while doing interviews. I yelled to him to hurry up because we all wanted to go home and some nice young bloke having a conversation with a security guard advised me against swearing, so I added a please.

Stubbs must have missed the crowd and decided to walk down the centre tunnel instead. We made sure we told him our feelings however.

Deadset found it hard to support the team tonight. It's not the boys fault. Did anyone else feel really flat? I usually celebrate goals like nothing else but barely managed a clap. This isn't how it's supposed to be. I didn't enjoy the game all. I'm really struggling to associate with this team now because we have no identity. There's no character, no drive, determination, imagination, flair, desperation. I can't ever remember feeling as low as a fan as I do now.

If this is what the football we are being offered "moving forward" then I'm going to catch up on plenty of sleep because that was boring. We'd struggle to create a chance if we were the only bloke in a bar full of chicks.

Also even more yellow card tonight. The discipline in our team is shocking. Was anyone talking to each other out there.

What was with the bloke warming the players up? He looked like he was on work experience or something.

The crowd was a clear sign that things aren't right. But good on the squadron tonight. You put in a great shift.

[plague]

How many was crowd farkern?

[Scourge]

6900ish

[hawk]

Heaps of people stayed back to commiserate with Stubbins on a difficult loss. They all lined the tunnel to wish him all the best but he took a while doing interviews. I yelled to him to hurry up because we all wanted to go home and some nice young bloke having a conversation with a security guard advised me against swearing, so I added a please.

Stubbs must have missed the crowd and decided to walk down the centre tunnel instead. We made sure we told him our feelings however.

Deadset found it hard to support the team tonight. Did anyone else feel really flat? I usually celebrate goals like nothing else but barely managed a clap. This isn't how it's supposed to be. I didn't enjoy the game all. I'm really struggling to associate with this team now because we have no identity. There's no character, no drive, determination, imagination, flair, desperation. I can't ever remember feeling as low as a fan as I do now.

If this is what the football we are being offered "moving forward" then I'm going to catch up on plenty of sleep because that was boring. We'd struggle to create a chance if we were the only bloke in a bar full of chicks.

Also even more yellow card tonight. The discipline in our team is shocking. Was anyone talking to each other out there.

What was with the bloke warming the players up? He looked like he was on work experience or something.

The crowd was a clear sign that things aren't right. But good on the squadron tonight. You put in a great shift.

very well said JP

[pv4]

I got more excited when Roar scored than when we did tbh. When we scored all I could think was "typical jerks".

i legit feel like Nick Hornby in Fever Pitch.

[MFKS]

Can someone explain the thinking behind taken your most experienced defender off when it is 1-1 in injury time and your defending a set piece??
I am confused

Seems rather well thought out that by Stubbins

Not to mention a clear breach of football wisdom about disrupting the team when defending a set piece etc

[sammydog]

Not to mention a clear breach of football wisdom about disrupting the team when defending a set piece etc

This, every coach right down to Juniors, even without a football brain knows you don't make a defensive substitution when you're defending a corner or set piece.

FFS, with 1 min left what was he hoping to achieve anyway?

[Pico]

Welsh used the photos he has of stillborn to get a minimum minutes clause in his contract.

What's the big deal, we are moving forward now scoring goals in injury time, such an improvement with all those new players we signed...oh wait

[weston]

Just watched the game. Master class by Stubbs to bring on his boy Allan Welsh right at the end to slot home the winner. BRILLIANT!!! And we all doubted him and Tinks.

If only Welsh wasn't 45 minutes behind everyone else

[Retro Jet]

Who the **** makes a defensive substitution with under a minute to go when you are defending a free kick on the edge of the box.

Way to destabilise the defence and ensure hilarity occurs.

Stubbins is clueless, unless he was trying to throw away the point, then he is a tactical genius.

Right on sammydog.
I SMS'd our (now) ex Cookers Gaffer having a bitch and moan with a kindred spirit.
Here's what a local 3rd Division coach SMS'd back:-
"You never sub on defensive set plays, corners etc
Not enough time to talk with other players re marking up"

Substitutions 101. There ya go Phil. Try starting at Zone League 3 and work your way up....
:banghead:

[weston]

Right on sammydog.
I SMS'd our (now) ex Cookers Gaffer having a bitch and moan with a kindred spirit.
Here's what a local 3rd Division coach SMS'd back:-
"You never sub on defensive set plays, corners etc
Not enough time to talk with other players re marking up"

Substitutions 101. There ya go Phil. Try starting at Zone League 3 and work your way up....
:banghead:

That's providing he gets there before the kicks taken,

[Retro Jet]

How many was crowd farkern?


6900ish

6994...and every one of us deserves a medal for turning up.
Fair dinkum, if I was a new owner, I'd personally send out some sort of 'thank you'
for every member who's card was scanned tonight.
I said it to a few people tonight: If just about any other club had been through bs and the steady
(and sometimes not so steady) decline that we've had to endure since 2006 + the latest circus act,
they wouldn't be pulling near 7k.
I thought we nearly got away with it tonight. Walsh/oggie:- Last nail in the guys coffin as far as I'm concerned.

[sammydog]

I thought we nearly got away with it tonight. Walsh/oggie:- Last nail in the guys coffin as far as I'm concerned.

I don't rate welsh, but I am not going to blame him for being thrown into the game cold, with 30 seconds to go defending a set piece from a dangerous position.

The substitution had disaster written all over it.

[BodyNovo]

Had a good night drinking ciders with the Membah

Seriously thought jeterpool I tried to rev myself around the jets goal and I still couldn't get excited


I agree the 6900 that rocked up deserved a medal

I feel no connection to this team before besides a few

[Jeterpool]

As I've woken up this morning I still feel no better

[MFKS]

Gee whiz it is gonna be a hard slog not joining the list of plastic fans if we have to keep sitting through that dross.

That would have to be one of the most uninspiring games I have been to in a long time.

Reminded me a lot of the days in the NSL watching the Breakers.

Pile of locals not good enough and a few ring ins not good enough who bust their backside for the most part but at the end of the day the class of the big city team kicked in and they got the points. At least in those days you could except Sth Melburn Melburn Croatia Marconi Olympic etc had more money and superior players as a result. Whats our excuse now.

In a Salary Capped League how can you be so far off the pace??

As for our coach the bloke is a COWARD.

You have got your way and pissed people off. Face them and deal with the fallout and not dodge them.

Gutless effort to not walk past the fans last night. Your players did and had to man up to face the music. Glad to see the"Man" leading from the front avoids the heat like a COWARD

BORN LOSER

[Hunter403]

Fu@k me! What a poor game.

We should be thankful that Brisbane were as weak as Superman with a lump of krypyonite shoved up his butt.

We were slow to the ball and slow to transition.

Hoole man of the match? He had moments but he drifted out of the match for long periods. Thought Kanta was far more involved tonight than he has been and needs to keep this going. Gallagher was useless. Neville was good but his passing was off, Regan and Mullen were solid but Brisbane were weak, Roundabout showed commitment but still doesn't transition fast enough, Pepper was ok, Montano should have better with his chances. Cooper needed to be closer to Montano and was isolated too often.

Stubbins tactical ability and his ability to adjust in the match is beyond pathetic. We go down a goal. Our reaction? Take off Cooper and replace him like for like. How about adjusting your formation to pursue the win! Here's a suggestion: replace Gallagher (who was constantly beaten last night) with Pavicevic and have a go. Hell, he was damned if we lost and he had to win last night to tell his detractors "fu#k you". No, he parked the bus.

Also, who in their right mind takes off a defender with 1 minute to go when defending a set piece???? What insanity is this?? Amateur hour. Is Welsh on match payments only and short of cash this week?

I stayed and spoke to Regan after the match. Told him the booing is not at the players but at management. He was shattered by the result.

Love Stubbins slinking off down the central tunnel. Shows (along with his tactics) that deep down he is timid and weak

[MFKS]

Fu@k me! What a poor game.

We should be thankful that Brisbane were as weak as Superman with a lump of krypyonite shoved up his butt.

We were slow to the ball and slow to transition.

Hoole man of the match? He had moments but he drifted out of the match for long periods. Thought Kanta was far more involved tonight than he has been and needs to keep this going. Gallagher was useless. Neville was good but his passing was off, Regan and Mullen were solid but Brisbane were weak, Roundabout showed commitment but still doesn't transition fast enough, Pepper was ok, Montano should have better with his chances. Cooper needed to be closer to Montano and was isolated too often.

Stubbins tactical ability and his ability to adjust in the match is beyond pathetic. We go down a goal. Our reaction? Take off Cooper and replace him like for like. How about adjusting your formation to pursue the win! Here's a suggestion: replace Gallagher (who was constantly beaten last night) with Pavicevic and have a go. Hell, he was damned if we lost and he had to win last night to tell his detractors "fu#k you". No, he parked the bus.

Also, who in their right mind takes off a defender with 1 minute to go when defending a set piece???? What insanity is this?? Amateur hour. Is Welsh on match payments only and short of cash this week?

I stayed and spoke to Regan after the match. Told him the booing is not at the players but at management. He was shattered by the result.

Love Stubbins slinking off down the central tunnel. Shows (along with his tactics) that deep down he is timid and weak


Good post

I t isn't just Montano/Cooper who are isolated and too far apart all our players are constantly isolated in attack and too far apart.

This is magnified by when we do lose the ball we are too far from one another to press urgently to halt our opponents attack and regain ball.


What was even more bizarre was at 1-1 with 15-20 mins to go he had 2 subs available. Does he actually push for a win and change tactics formations??
No he waits to injury time to throw 2 subs on for what exact purpose other than waste time hold for the draw??

Also the decision to take Hoole off is bizarre considering he actually looks our main threat in attack of creating something

[Raw Boned Youngster]

i agree with all the posts about the late sub etc, but there were some real changes last night. The 4-5-1 was much more organised and players seemed a bit clearer on their roles in the system. In the past there has been complete laziness without the ball and lack of commitment that has completely destroyed the shape of the team . personally, I think the removal of madaschi, who has been terrible, and Jaliens was a huge improvement. For a quality player, Jaliens has been completely ill disciplined this season and some of his brain snaps, especially in terms of his positional play, have been baffling. madaschi is completely over rated and will be no loss on any level.
anyway, the players remained disciplined, played closer together and kept a structure.
I feel for Montano who continues to be used poorly. As a lone gunman up front he was forced to do lots of energy sapping tracking of the Brisbane back 4. Big Phil, and more likely Mark Jones who seemed to have had a fair bit of input, will need to improve the work of his wide men on shutting down the opponemt's wide full backs to relieve Montano's workload. Also, Montano's aerial dominance is one of our strengths- the service/ crossing to him was abysmal.
The real judge of a team's organisation though is what happens on attacking and defensive set plays...
I expect Mark Jones to be named as coach, with Stabbings given another role.

[Pico]

Cooper needed to be closer to Montano and was isolated too often.

Young positive attacking midfielder, let's play him out wide on the right. #stubbinslogic

[MFKS]

Young positive attacking midfielder, let's play him out wide on the right. #stubbinslogic
Leading goal scorer for the club, player of the comp, winning goal in GF, won us a comp on his own etc.

Play him as a right winger and have him spend all game tracking back to cover the fullback yet never ever play him in his correct position where he will score goals for us>> #stubbinslogic

[Beeen]

The stubstitution had disaster written all over it.
.

[Pico]

Leading goal scorer for the club, player of the comp, winning goal in GF, won us a comp on his own etc.

Play him as a right winger and have him spend all game tracking back to cover the fullback yet never ever play him in his correct position where he will score goals for us>> #stubbinslogic

Stillborn is nothing if not consistent.

[GazFish35]

groundhog day


punxatawney Phil

[MFKS]

groundhog day


punxatawney Phil

Should sing that song on the radio that Bill Murray wakes up to each morning in the movie for Mr 6% Winning Record

[joel31]

Just watched the game. A positive performance for some parts but we still don't look great going forward
That set piece defending though was non-existent. How hard is it to clear it away?

[Frodo]

Young positive attacking midfielder, let's play him out wide on the right. #stubbinslogic

You don't watch much World football do you? That's exactly where you play a young attack minded midfielder so they arent a liability for the other midfielders.

Mullen was very good, an improvement on the two that left in my opinion given their form.

I think we need work on overlapping fullbacks so our wingers don't always have to turn around as soon as they get 30m from goal and pass backwards.

Montano should score that 9 times of 10, maybe his head wasn't right.

Brisbane were poor and we played well enough to deserve a draw.

Can't blame Welsh for his Oggie, didn't even have time to look at who is was marking before he had the ball under his feet.

Stubbins said that he had planned on making the sub a few minutes earlier when we were on the attack but surely he knows that can stop the sub until we are ready. Was the 10-20 seconds he would've wasted really be worth the risk of a cold defender running onto the pitch?

Wasn't a great game but it was better than 7-0 so i'll just chew down on this disappointment all week and turn up next week and hope for better.

[GazFish35]

That "we'd already committed to the substitution" line!

Omg.

[MFKS]

That "we'd already committed to the substitution" line!

Omg.

There were some jaffas in the presser



We win together we draw together we lose together.

Can he enlighten us when these wins are coming???




I thought defensively we were solid, structurally solid.

Still let in 2 goals from poor organisation dick head




There were a lot of people unhappy about things it is still fresh blah blah blah that's to be expected and I am big enough to deal with it

Deal with it??? FFS you hid on the field well away from the crowd and then when it got your time to get to the sheds proceeded to dog it up the tunnel and refused to face the fans

[MFKS]

As for that first goal we conceded can the Birraz haters enlighten us as to what BK was doing not coming for a cross 5 yards out???


Birraz would be crucified for that

[GazFish35]

As for that first goal we conceded can the Birraz haters enlighten us as to what BK was doing not coming for a cross 5 yards out???


Birraz would be crucified for that

I'll check it out.

1st guess would be.... Thinking about letting in easy goals so Phil gets tbe punt and griff gets his job back.

[plague]

As for that first goal we conceded can the Birraz haters enlighten us as to what BK was doing not coming for a cross 5 yards out???


Birraz would be crucified for that

I'd say that after seeing Biraz get a free trip to Italy and get away from this shitstorm, BK has gone straight to the Biraz book of cockups.

Seemed to do a fair job of it too.


Van Stratten IN.

[My2BobsWorth]

As for that first goal we conceded can the Birraz haters enlighten us as to what BK was doing not coming for a cross 5 yards out???


Birraz would be crucified for that

For mine he was being fouled by the prick that scored.

[GazFish35]

Happy to say I agree with member, not too happy to say I agree with slater.

Keepers ball.

Mind you, three blokes ducked, and two didn't follow the man.

Bk one of 6 at fault.

At least they're doing things as a team, as phil said, we win, lose, draw, defend poorly at set pieces, make insane substitutions and leave the field down the far tunnel as a team..... That's what he said wasn't it?

[hawk]

Phil parks a bus like the ones seen in most post apocalyptic games that have all of the windows knocked out, the doors ripped off and you can just climb through them.

cant even park a bus. So many gaps

[Jetmaster]

FFS.....it was due to BK it wasn't 3-0 at one stage.

Best Keeper.....BK....forza

[MFKS]

FFS.....it was due to BK it wasn't 3-0 at one stage.

Best Keeper.....BK....forza

Even when he ****s up the BK fanboi's find a positive:blush:

[Jeterpool]

Van Stratten IN.

Who? The bloke training BK? Conflict of interest there...bloke training him also competing for first team place

[hawk]

Even when he ****s up the BK fanboi's find a positive:blush:

Bk hater, no need for it.

[Jeterpool]

Broich awarded the goal. Welsh's blushes spared....officially

[hawk]

Broich awarded the goal. Welsh's blushes spared....officially


What? and deny Stubbins his embarrassment, no way

http://cdn.meme.am/images/1259583.jpg

[Jeterpool]

What? and deny Stubbins his embarrassment, no way

http://cdn.meme.am/images/1259583.jpg

I agree. Bullshit call

[sammydog]

No way was it going in until Welsh expertly diverted it goal bound. Definite own goal.

[Raw Boned Youngster]

great cameo from Welsh

[seldom]

You don't watch much World football do you? That's exactly where you play a young attack minded midfielder so they arent a liability for the other midfielders.

Mullen was very good, an improvement on the two that left in my opinion given their form.

I think we need work on overlapping fullbacks so our wingers don't always have to turn around as soon as they get 30m from goal and pass backwards.

Montano should score that 9 times of 10, maybe his head wasn't right.

Brisbane were poor and we played well enough to deserve a draw.

Can't blame Welsh for his Oggie, didn't even have time to look at who is was marking before he had the ball under his feet.

Stubbins said that he had planned on making the sub a few minutes earlier when we were on the attack but surely he knows that can stop the sub until we are ready. Was the 10-20 seconds he would've wasted really be worth the risk of a cold defender running onto the pitch?

Wasn't a great game but it was better than 7-0 so i'll just chew down on this disappointment all week and turn up next week and hope for better.

Totally agree frodo...can you post more often, been a huge void of football knowledge since VJ went into hiding