SQUAD FOR 2015/16 SEASON - no Griff, no party

[Frodo]

So with Regan and Gallagher gone how many players do we have again?

[Jeterpool]

So with Regan and Gallagher gone how many players do we have again?

With decisions still to be made, who played this year or still have a contract..

Mark Birighitti
Ben Kennedy
Ben Kantarovski
Jacob Pepper
James Virgili
Scott Neville
Edson Montano
David Carney
Mitch Cooper
Allan Welsh
Radovan Pavicevic
Daniel Mullen
Ki-Je Lee
Nick Cowburn
Enver Alivodic
Max Burgess
Brandon Lundy
Braedyn Crowley
Michael Kantarovski
Travis Cooper

But could be, given rumours and those who are apparently close to signing, may not be retained, or those who may be seeking a release....

Ben Kennedy
Ben Kantarovski
Jacob Pepper
Mitch Cooper
Radovan Pavicevic
Daniel Mullen
Ki-Je Lee
Enver Alivodic
Nigel Boogaard

[Jeterpool]

New thread needed or title change

[plague]

Welsh Solari and Travis Copper gone too.
Cowburn offered a new deal

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Welsh Solari and Travis Copper gone too.
Cowburn offered a new deal

Cowburn's is a youth contract.

[lil_masi]

Why is there no announcement on Virgilli? Surely hes gone too

[GazFish35]

Will migrate some posts from old squad thread to this one, then close the old one..... its a little old.



Newcastle Jets can today detail a number of squad changes ahead of the Hyundai A-League 2015/16 season.

Defender Taylor Regan, utility Sam Gallagher, and goalkeeper John Solari have been informed that they will not be re-signed by the Club for next campaign.

26-year-old Regan has played his entire professional career with the Jets having formerly skippered the Club’s Foxtel National Youth League team. Regan played 68 times for Newcastle in the Hyundai A-League.

Gallagher, 23, joined the Jets ahead of the 2014/15 campaign from Vietnamese side Hanoi T&T. He made a total of 19 appearances for the Club throughout Hyundai A-League season ten.

21-year-old Solari linked with the Jets in 2013 from South Australian Premier League outfit White City. While he never appeared for the Club in the Hyundai A-League, Solari featured regularly for Newcastle’s Foxtel National Youth League side and provided dependable back up to Ben Kennedy and Mark Birighitti during his time in the Hunter.

Newcastle Jets can also disclose that Allan Welsh (16 appearances this season) and Travis Cooper (two appearances this season) have been informed that at this point they will not be re-signed by the Club. Jets management may seek to re-engage with Welsh, Cooper, or both, depending on various factors.

Utility Nick Cowburn (10 appearances this season) has been offered a youth deal. The Club is committed to retaining the Toronto junior.

“We’d love Nick Cowburn to stay at the club however with Scott Neville and Jacob Pepper contracted and able to fulfil the right back role, at this point we need to work within our salary cap and squad size parameters,” Newcastle Jets Head Coach Phil Stubbins explained. “We will remain in open dialogue with Nick.”

Max Burgess (five appearances this season) remains in discussions with the Club.

Ecuadorian attacker Edson Montaño remains under consideration by Club management. Montaño was on-loan to the Jets throughout the 2014/15 season from SC Barcelona in his homeland. Discussions with his loan club and local agent will transpire in due course.

Stubbins added: “Today the coaching staff had to deliver some tough decisions to some great people. We certainly wish each of the guys that are leaving the club the very best in their respective futures.”

“We are well advanced with our plans to recruit some top quality players to join home grown products Ben Kennedy, Ben Kantarovski, Jacob Pepper, and the returning Nigel Boogaard in our pursuit to bring success to the Newcastle Jets.”

The Club is in negotiations with Enver Alivodić to retain his services

Read more at http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/newcastle-jets-outline-squad-changes/llzee4hvjwqh14ake9xys7hu1#Ui7xDy6XOHSKoA4S.99

[Jetmaster]

The off-field circus begins.

[GazFish35]

new thread needed or title change

sorted

[BodyNovo]

didn't we establish at the start of the year that pepper is not a RB

i reckon neville will be on his way nonetheless

[Frodo]

“We’d love Nick Cowburn to stay at the club however with Scott Neville and Jacob Pepper contracted and able to fulfil the right back role, at this point we need to work within our salary cap and squad size parameters,” Newcastle Jets Head Coach Phil Stubbins explained. “We will remain in open dialogue with Nick.”

This has always been a massive problem within this club. Instead of having a decent back up player for a specific position we decide to play someone who can do a job there and save our spots. How hard is it to have 2 left backs and 2 right backs in a 23 man squad??

This goes every position. Stubbins must just think that all forwards can play across the front, all defenders can play across the back and midfielders can play anywhere.. Sounds like U/14s football... wait, that's probably setting the bar too high for old Stubby & Chubby!

[380]

Clearly Neville's stance earlier on is the motive behind the quote " We will remain in open dialogue with Nick.”

[Xander]

Time to get updating!

Transfermrkt.co.uk (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/newcastle-united-jets/startseite/verein/***1/saison_id/2014#subnavi)

Might be time to go shopping for some other talent on here.

[tomo]

Hey guys...
Ive been reading a few of your threads pretty much everyday for the past 12 months, so have decided to sign up so i can join in on occasions!

Just wanted to say that the decision to axe gallagher, welsh and solari is great. Cleans out some players that arent upto a-league standard imo. But with solari being released, is that an indication that stubbins is banking on a birighitti return, or is there another gk in the pipeline?? Anyones better than BK!

[lil_masi]

Hey guys...
Ive been reading a few of your threads pretty much everyday for the past 12 months, so have decided to sign up so i can join in on occasions!

Just wanted to say that the decision to axe gallagher, welsh and solari is great. Cleans out some players that arent upto a-league standard imo. But with solari being released, is that an indication that stubbins is banking on a birighitti return, or is there another gk in the pipeline?? Anyones better than BK!

Doubt birra will come back. I'd like us to sign michael Turnbull. Signed with Victory as an injury replacement. 34 (not that old for a keeper). Alot of experience.

[BodyNovo]

danny ireland

local boy and was running round with coventry 2 seasons ago.

[380]

danny ireland

local boy and was running round with coventry 2 seasons ago.

How many starts ?. I think the mascot spent more time on the pitch.

[parksey]

get langerak

[BodyNovo]

How many starts ?. I think the mascot spent more time on the pitch.

don't think he got many, but training with a championship team and dominating the past 2 seasons in the NPL are worth something imo

would be cheap and reliable imo

[Grimario]

Put your hands together for Stubbins (not your) Newcastle Jets!


Shambles.

[tomo]

Turnbull would be a handy signing, but cant see stubbins dropping BK for him. He seems to see something in him that i definately cant.

Do u go and use a visa spot and chase a keeper? Its hard to find a keeper of someone like galekovic's quality sitting here in aus, or willing to come back home for that matter

[The Postman]

Only offering Cowbie a youth deal? Does the club think they can hide him away in the Youth Team for another season when there is legitimite interest from other clubs that are a much better position than the Jets!

[MFKS]

Only offering Cowbie a youth deal? Does the club think they can hide him away in the Youth Team for another season when there is legitimite interest from other clubs that are a much better position than the Jets!

More for accounting reasons.

They can put him on one of them and he stays out of the cap and they have to have so many anyway and with Solaris going that frees one up now

[plague]

Hey guys...
Ive been reading a few of your threads pretty much everyday for the past 12 months, so have decided to sign up so i can join in on occasions!

Anyones better than BK!

Look at this guy.
Straight in spitting hot fire.

Get in son!!!!!

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Pretty disappointed with Regan leaving, he is a decent squad player. Id be equally disheartened if Cowburn got a full contract elsewhere because we dont want specialist fullbacks and would rather utilities play there (maybe that's why we conceded so many goals).
And i have no doubt we wont sign any quality and be forced to 're-engage' with Cooper and Welsh.

[The Postman]

And i have no doubt we wont sign any quality and be forced to 're-engage' with Cooper and Welsh.

If I were Travis or Welsh, why would I want to come back here when they have been basically told "You are the back up plan". Unless no other club would give them a chance, I can see someone taking a punt on Travis though, there might be something there.

[The Postman]

==Squad==
1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
2. Scott Neville - 15/16
3.
4.
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Josh Baressi - 15/16
16. Jacob Pepper - 15/16
17.
18.
19. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21. Daniel Mullen - 17/18
22. Lee Ki-Je - 17/18
23. David Carney - 15/16

##. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18

24.
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16
26.
27. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17

==Off Contract==
Enver Alivodic
Nick Cowburn
Braedyn Crowley
Michael Kantarvoski
Max Burgess

==Rumoured==
Andy Brennan
Themba Muata-Marlow
Jamie McLaren
Zac Anderson

[The Postman]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/newcastle-jets-outline-squad-changes/llzee4hvjwqh14ake9xys7hu1

Virgili gone also, has been added to the article

[joel31]

Surely Regan should've been kept as back-up at least. He wouldn't have been on much

[Premy]

Turnbull would be a handy signing, but cant see stubbins dropping BK for him. He seems to see something in him that i definately cant.

Do u go and use a visa spot and chase a keeper? Its hard to find a keeper of someone like galekovic's quality sitting here in aus, or willing to come back home for that matter
Brad Jones is off contract at Seasons end with Liverpool.

[MFKS]

Surely Regan should've been kept as back-up at least. He wouldn't have been on much

FMD

We are coming 10th and people want to stay there by signing back ups:deadhorse:

[snake]

^^union rep m8. tinks hates unions.

[Premy]

==Off Contract==
Enver Alivodic- At the right price.

Nick Cowburn- Priority, lock this kid down and give him a 3 year deal

Braedyn Crowley- Pass

Michael Kantarvoski- Local, give him a year on not much money to see if he can progress further.

Max Burgess- Looked promising keep him around in pre-season if other options fall threw.

[lquiquer]

Mr Postman you forgot to mention Hanna in your list.......^^^

[joel31]

FMD

We are coming 10th and people want to stay there by signing back ups:deadhorse:
our centre of defence wasn't our main problem in the latter half of last season

[joel31]

I hope the state league players we are linked with are not like the ones we signed last year. I can see the cycle of Stubbins signing not good enough state leaguers continuing

[Thomas477]

Look at this guy.
Straight in spitting hot fire.

Get in son!!!!!

:lulzturtle: I like this guy!

[MFKS]

our centre of defence wasn't our main problem in the latter half of last season

We lost how many games in the back end of the season??

Our defence is a big problem

[lquiquer]

Just did a quick google search (Took me no more than 5 minutes). Just typed Germany U21 national team. Pick the 2006 squad (These players are 31 now). Just picked 3 forwards out of the squad......Patrick Helmes / Stefan Kiebling / Christian Eigler and I look at their career. It became clear to me they should be the kind of marquee we should target. Obviously you can look at Spain / Holland / Italy / France.......You can also look at their 2008 squad (33 now) or even 2004 squad (29 now).....and surely we should be able to find a Broitch or a Berisha....

[tomo]

How do i add someone elses post in my msg? Im struggling 😕

Cant see Brad Jones wanting to come to the Jets. He'd be more inclined to goto the Paxton Swampdonkeys than the Jets

[Beeen]

If Tinks really cared about this town, he'd go for Paul Pogba.

[The Postman]

Mr Postman you forgot to mention Hanna in your list.......^^^

I couldn't find any on his contract with Barcelona SC, so unless he is out of contract with them he has to go back home.

2 options

Jets could try and get him on loan again
or
Pay a transfer fee lol

[Thomas477]

How do i add someone elses post in my msg? Im struggling 😕

Cant see Brad Jones wanting to come to the Jets. He'd be more inclined to goto the Paxton Swampdonkeys than the Jets

Hit the reply with quote button beneath each post.

[tomo]

Hit the reply with quote button beneath each post.


Like this?

[lquiquer]

Like this?

:thumbsup:

[parksey]

that andy brennan guy looks like he's got something about him; quick, good touch on the ball, nice range of passing and some creativity.

admittedly that's judging from his youtube highlights package.

[WolfMan]

To be honest - with the exception of Regan, I haven't got much to say about the axings.

If Phil brings in some further talent at the right price, he may just be on to something. Proof is in the pudding though, so time will tell and a stitch in time saves 9.

[joel31]

Just did a quick google search (Took me no more than 5 minutes). Just typed Germany U21 national team. Pick the 2006 squad (These players are 31 now). Just picked 3 forwards out of the squad......Patrick Helmes / Stefan Kiebling / Christian Eigler and I look at their career. It became clear to me they should be the kind of marquee we should target. Obviously you can look at Spain / Holland / Italy / France.......You can also look at their 2008 squad (33 now) or even 2004 squad (29 now).....and surely we should be able to find a Broitch or a Berisha....
Kiessling is a starting striker at Bayer

[Mark325]

To be honest - with the exception of Regan, I haven't got much to say about the axings.

If Phil brings in some further talent at the right price, he may just be on to something. Proof is in the pudding though, so time will tell and a stitch in time saves 9.

I thought very much the same, alot of those guys didn't offer much of anything and are all mostly easily replaceable. Only guy who I think we could regret is Travis Cooper but at the same time we've got Radivan who I'd like to see us use a bit more.

Only thing now is bringing in better players to replace them, cause if we just end up with a similar lot then there was really no point

[lquiquer]

Kiessling is a starting striker at Bayer

Fair enough he might have a couple of more years in the bundesliga (As I said it was quite random search I did)......and look at Janko, he was a starting striker at Trabzonspor, Twente and Red bull S..........Kiessling played for Germany 6 times, Janko 45 times for Austria (Still does and I think captain) and same age......

[borat]

The thing with Travis Cooper is he looked ok in the 2 short cameo's he had at the back end of the season.

But if it took him 8-9 weeks to crack a bench spot in this side tells me he either trained like rubbish or Stubbins doesn't rate him.

[borat]

There are decent wraps on this Muata-Marlow kid. Will be interesting to see how he performs.

[MFKS]

There are decent wraps on this Muata-Marlow kid. Will be interesting to see how he performs.

Decent ratings yet Arnie who has no dramas putting kids in the team Mat Ryan Gersbach etc would not play him even though he had a defensive crisis???

[borat]

Decent ratings yet Arnie who has no dramas putting kids in the team Mat Ryan Gersbach etc would not play him even though he had a defensive crisis???

Yes....not everyone pours fuel on a fire.

Both Calver and Muata-Marlow were the SFC NYL CB pairing. Both are meant to be very tidy players but Arnie preferred Calver for the 1 CB position they have available.

[lquiquer]

Muppet thinks he knows but reality is ...... :facepalm:.... we are doomed.............

[MFKS]

Muppet thinks he knows but reality is ...... :facepalm:.... we are doomed.............

No we aren't

Stubbins is a dead duck.

Tinkler will turn on him sooner or later when he realises he is full of shit and made him look like a fool

You can guarantee it

[lquiquer]

No we aren't

Stubbins is a dead duck.

Tinkler will turn on him sooner or later when he realises he is full of shit and made him look like a fool

You can guarantee it

Maybe but at the start of next season only desperados will play for Muppet!!!,,,,,, Then Tinks sees the light, got no idea what to do and we start rebuilding... :banghead: again

[plague]

this is the bloke we should be signing.
currently playing in front of a bunch of drunks and some brown cows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1HRkwPbP-o

heaven help we looked outside of Sydney reserves and Gosford dole queues.

Stubbins out.

[lquiquer]

this is the bloke we should be signing.
currently playing in front of a bunch of drunks and some brown cows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1HRkwPbP-o

heaven help we looked outside of Sydney reserves and Gosford dole queues.

Stubbins out.

Yeah but apparently HAL is tough / physical and they don't let you do shit like that!!...Ask Ribeiro.......The new bloke form South Melbourne is maybe in for a reality check / shock, however he might turned out to be a Zizou!!?... But wait how come Victory haven't signed him yet?

[lquiquer]

5 left and prob soon 4 when Neville goes....and only 2 seasons ago (Last year)!!!!

1088

[MFKS]

5 left and prob soon 4 when Neville goes....and only 2 seasons ago (Last year)!!!!

1088

6
BK
Kanta
Pepper
Mitch Cooper
Neville

And Our Best Goal Keeper is still a Jets Player

My boy Birraz

[Premy]

5 left and prob soon 4 when Neville goes....and only 2 seasons ago (Last year)!!!!

1088who the hell is that between Pepper and Regan?

[MFKS]

who the hell is that between Pepper and Regan?

??? Reegz in Middle Row on the left and Pepper is in top row towards the right.????
Be a bit more specific

[pv4]

who the hell is that between Pepper and Regan?

Are you thinking between Pepper and Hoole? If so it is Joey Gibbs.

[tomo]

this is the bloke we should be signing.
currently playing in front of a bunch of drunks and some brown cows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1HRkwPbP-o

heaven help we looked outside of Sydney reserves and Gosford dole queues.

Stubbins out.

Seen footage of this guy a few years ago. He'd carve up in the a-league!

[lquiquer]

??? Reegz in Middle Row on the left and Pepper is in top row towards the right.????
Be a bit more specific
lel .... now that's funny... :roflz:

[Premy]

Yeah my bad Regz on the mind.
PV4 got it for me :facepalm:

[Premy]

-------------------------Ireland------------------------
?????--------Regz---Mitchell--Thompson
Virgili---Wheelhouse--Musialik----?????
-------------Griffiths--Bradbury-----------------

[sammydog]

Right now, with the way the club has treated players (sackings, late payment, unpaid super) on top of the ATO taking the FFA TV money, and Tinkler being the owner, our squad next year will be mostly made up of players from the various State Leagues desperate to get into the aleague.

We will just be moving forward along the downward spiral.

[The Postman]

-------------------------Ireland------------------------
?????--------Regz---Mitchell--Thompson
Virgili---Wheelhouse--Musialik----?????
-------------Griffiths--Bradbury-----------------

2016 NPL All Stars?

[Premy]

2016 NPL All Stars?
Something along those lines, Decent NPL side.
I still genuinely believe Newcastle should have a Club in the NSW NPL, but that a conversation for a different thread.

[Retro Jet]

The off-field circus begins.

T'was one of my comments straight after the whistle at Suncorp last Friday.
"I told you so..." but...we all knew something like this was on the cards.

[tomo]

Does anyone know what Diego Forlans contract status is in Japan? I think he'd have more than enough left in the tank to be a great marquee

[Jeterpool]

There's very little connexion with the team after yesterday's goings on.

[Jeterpool]

Does anyone know what Diego Forlans contract status is in Japan? I think he'd have more than enough left in the tank to be a great marquee

I'm a bit put off by strikers as marquees. I'd prefer the marquee in a creative role because it's something we have been lacking since Nick Carle and there has been more success with visa players in that role over the years. I'm thinking of Fred, Flores, Hernandez, Broich and Ono.

[MFKS]

There's very little connexion with the team after yesterday's goings on.

Can't imagine those people to be too happy with 3 loyal soldiers who backed Muppet to the hilt in his time of need getting the arse.

Can see this getting uglier.

[Jeterpool]

I've had a look through the history books and looked at the annual squad turnover between each season. This only takes into account players who have played a game for us, so the likes of Tando Velaphi, John Solari, Ben McNamara, Jason Culina aren't included. Once they played a game, they were counted in the squad. The players released or leaving the club at the end of each season (when compared to who started) is as follows

S1 = 12 players
S2 = 9 players
S3 = 12 player
S4 = 13 players
S5 = 11 players
S6 = 10 players
S7 = 10 players
S8 = 8 players
S9 = 13 player
S10 = 22 players * (this includes players who are currently re-negotiating so number may reduce).

If we look at the two seasons where the fewest changes occurred, we all know what happened in Season 3, while just missing out on the finals in Season 9 it was our highest ever season points tally.

By my count we may have 15 spots to fill on the roster. And while I agree with many that a cleanout was needed after years of mediocrity (disregarding the appalling manner in which some of these "partings" have occurred) it's perhaps too much too soon. Where are we going to locate 15 players who can form a team and be of a standard which can compete? We're a hard sell at the moment to any player, and if some of the media reports are correct about reneging on promises we're going to be even less attractive.

I'm fearing for us next season because after what we all thought was our last major change in Season 8 with the likes of Taggart, Brillante, Cooper coming on board, it takes at least a season for the squad to gel.

[stopper2]

I've had a look through the history books and looked at the annual squad turnover between each season. This only takes into account players who have played a game for us, so the likes of Tando Velaphi, John Solari, Ben McNamara, Jason Culina aren't included. Once they played a game, they were counted in the squad. The players released or leaving the club at the end of each season (when compared to who started) is as follows

S1 = 12 players
S2 = 9 players
S3 = 12 player
S4 = 13 players
S5 = 11 players
S6 = 10 players
S7 = 10 players
S8 = 8 players
S9 = 13 player
S10 = 22 players * (this includes players who are currently re-negotiating so number may reduce).

If we look at the two seasons where the fewest changes occurred, we all know what happened in Season 3, while just missing out on the finals in Season 9 it was our highest ever season points tally.

By my count we may have 15 spots to fill on the roster. And while I agree with many that a cleanout was needed after years of mediocrity (disregarding the appalling manner in which some of these "partings" have occurred) it's perhaps too much too soon. Where are we going to locate 15 players who can form a team and be of a standard which can compete? We're a hard sell at the moment to any player, and if some of the media reports are correct about reneging on promises we're going to be even less attractive.

I'm fearing for us next season because after what we all thought was our last major change in Season 8 with the likes of Taggart, Brillante, Cooper coming on board, it takes at least a season for the squad to gel.

Very interesting Jeterpool, that would have taken a bit of time to compile, well done for your efforts.
Overall it's been fairly constant, ranging between 8 and 13 but this season is definitely unprecedented not only for our club, but the A League as a whole and probably in Aussie sport in any code!

[GazFish35]

Club Values
* Hard Work
* Respect
* Community
* Commitment
* Success
* Youth Development

Read more at http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/about/about-us/b0ohcwntbnff1fbp840nt7ny4#PvHhvlLz8k6ROkxG.99


would love to know how their actions reflect respectful behaviour

[pv4]

Rumours of Takahagi coming to us. Is quality. Stubbins will surely misuse him, just like he did Flores.

[Tommyjet]

Rumours of Takahagi coming to us. Is quality. Stubbins will surely misuse him, just like he did Flores.
Source?

[q-money]

probs try and turn him into a right back

[pv4]

Source?

It was mentioned on ATB - the WSW podcast. Some of those guys have some decent connections, so I never discount any rumours they hear.

[MFKS]

It was mentioned on ATB - the WSW podcast. Some of those guys have some decent connections, so I never discount any rumours they hear.

They talk much about their little skirmish with the cops on Saturday??

What BS excuse they running this time for their misbehaviour???

[pv4]

They talk much about their little skirmish with the cops on Saturday??

What BS excuse they running this time for their misbehaviour???

They talked a lot about it.

They made no excuses, but put a lot of the blame on the actions of the police.

I did though get a chuckle when they said "the supposed RBB members" about the dudes who were chanting "RBB ole ole ole, RBB ole, RBB ole ole" in the cops face in that video outside the stadium :rof: :oops:

Personally, I reckon both sides were in the wrong.

[Tommyjet]

It was mentioned on ATB - the WSW podcast. Some of those guys have some decent connections, so I never discount any rumours they hear.
Takahagi seemed better for them when he sat a bit deeper rather than behind the striker.

[pv4]

Takahagi seemed better for them when he sat a bit deeper rather than behind the striker.

I've honestly found the complete opposite. I find him the typical X-factor number 10.

[lil_masi]

South Hobart have an interview on their website with Andy Brennan about signing a 2yr deal with the Jets. They're ahead of the jets

[MFKS]

They talked a lot about it.

They made no excuses, but put a lot of the blame on the actions of the police.

I did though get a chuckle when they said "the supposed RBB members" about the dudes who were chanting "RBB ole ole ole, RBB ole, RBB ole ole" in the cops face in that video outside the stadium :rof: :oops:

Personally, I reckon both sides were in the wrong.

Totally disagree with the Police are in the wrong there.

They get a couple of hundred halfwits who they have told to move on advance on two of them in an aggressive intimidatory manner then the halfwits will get some response from the Police.
Not exactly rocket science.

You wish to piss the police off like that then don't moan about the consequences.

The whole issue is a problem caused by Wankers fans anyway tolerating the halfwits amongst them with the flares and detonators

[pv4]

I think the police were wrong in:
- not following protocol laid out before the season by the club, league, police, etc about how they would wait until half/full time to apprehend/charge/ban the people confirmed by CCTV, and barged into the bay.
- the 180degree spray they did in the bay, which had innocent people (inc women and children) in there.
- the carry-on by the policeman in the outside-of-stadium video AFTER he sprayed the pack of dudes, with the pretend crying, waving, etc.
- the police report saying no one had been put into hospital because of the incidents, which was a blatant lie.

I think the RBB were in the wrong for a list that is probably twice that length, don't get me wrong, but I thought I'd just put it out there that both sides of the story dealt with this extremely poorly.

[q-money]

hard to feel sorry for these bozos tbh

[Bon]

South Hobart have an interview on their website with Andy Brennan about signing a 2yr deal with the Jets. They're ahead of the jets

Yeah, Jets just officially announced it on facey then..

[Tommyjet]

I've honestly found the complete opposite. I find him the typical X-factor number 10.

He played the last 5 or so of his games next to a holding mid, they used kalmar, bridge and haliti as no10.

Not saying he isn't a good no10 at all, just that he generally played as a deep playmaker type for most of his time at wankerers

[pv4]

He played the last 5 or so of his games next to a holding mid, they used kalmar, bridge and haliti as no10

I still think he's best used as a typical X-factor 10 though, and where he'd be best used for us if we were to sign him.

[lil_masi]

I still think he's best used as a typical X-factor 10 though, and where he'd be best used for us if we were to sign him.

Agree. That is his preferred position where he's played his entire career. Dont think his defence is to the standard to play deeper

[Tommyjet]

I still think he's best used as a typical X-factor 10 though, and where he'd be best used for us if we were to sign him.

I think we'll play duel no10's next season so may well be a good option. We did it in the last couple of games in the last 10/15 min with Hoole and burgess.

[The Postman]

So 2 year deals for Brennan, Boogaard, Mullen and Ki-Je, meaning their contracts runs to the end of the 16/17 season right? Not the 17/18 season.

I think I've got the years messed up on the squad list

1 - 2015/2016
2 - 2016/2017

Was going off an old list where Boogaard was down under the 17/18 season...

[Jeterpool]

So 2 year deals for Brennan, Boogaard, Mullen and Ki-Je, meaning their contracts runs to the end of the 16/17 season right? Not the 17/18 season.

I think I've got the years messed up on the squad list

1 - 2015/2016
2 - 2016/2017

Was going off an old list where Boogaard was down under the 17/18 season...

I think Boogaard is a 3 year deal.

[The Postman]

I think Boogaard is a 3 year deal.

Ahh that would explain where I messed up

[The Postman]

UPDATED

==Squad==
1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
2. Scott Neville - 15/16
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
7. Enver Alivodic - 15/16
15. Josh Baressi - 15/16
16. Jacob Pepper - 15/16
19. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
22. Lee Ki-Je - 16/17
23. David Carney - 15/16
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16
27. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
##. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
##. Andy Brennan - 16/17

==Off Contract==
13. Edson Montano
26. Nick Cowburn
28. Braedyn Crowley
29. Michael Kantarvoski
31. Max Burgess

==Rumoured==
Themba Muata-Marlow
Jamie McLaren
Zac Anderson
Peter Crouch
Yojiro Takahagi
Rostyn Griffiths
Mickael Tavares
Bernie Ibini-Isei
Dexter Rosales

[pv4]

^ Off contract list should include Montano as we're reportedly still in negotiations with him.

Rumoured list should also contain Peter Crouch, Yojiro Takahagi, Rostyn Griffiths (because I made it up, and also because I saw him in a picture with Kanta and Neville the other day) and Mickael Tavares. Oh and Bernie Ibini-Isei.

[Jeterpool]

And Dexter Rosales.

[A.J.]

It was mentioned on ATB - the WSW podcast. Some of those guys have some decent connections, so I never discount any rumours they hear.

I went to South America with one of the ATB guys. Good bloke. Dunno legitimacy of info though

[Bon]

Decided to pretend to be a Jets recruiter for a minute..
Went on to youtube..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXVaUK2XMD0

[leftrightout]

Decided to pretend to be a Jets recruiter for a minute..
Went on to youtube..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXVaUK2XMD0

Looks pretty tidy doesn't he!
Big and fast and seems to have a decent touch. Certainly one of the best videos I've seen from a state league player.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Pretty excited after that video, looks quality. Sadly.

Stubbins out

[tomo]

Alivodic only a 1 year deal??

[leftrightout]

Brennan confirmed on Herald website.

[joel31]

And Dexter Rosales.
lol

[GazFish35]

Alivodic only a 1 year deal??

hes not stupid. would you lock yourself into anything longer?

[plague]

Baltimore/Parramatta:
No justice, no peace.

[lil_masi]

Alivodic only a 1 year deal??

If it was his choice then fair enough. If the club only gave him 1 yr id be disappointed

[stopper2]

If it was his choice then fair enough. If the club only gave him 1 yr id be disappointed

Disappointed.....but not surprised!

[tomo]

hes not stupid. would you lock yourself into anything longer?

Maybe he's just leaving the door open for a move to sydney or city the year after

[foti68]

Jack Duncan could well be back next year

[lquiquer]

Jack Duncan could well be back next year

Or Matt Nash

[hawk]

[QUOTE=Bon;120012]Decided to pretend to be a Jets recruiter for a minute..
Went on to youtube..

this guy would carve zpl up, his hog runs mightn't be so hot in Aleague

[Jeterpool]

Or Matt Nash

Foti has been on the money before.

[Retro Jet]

Brennan confirmed on Herald website.


NMH
Brennan trained with the Jets a fortnight ago, having been identified by coach Phil Stubbins at the end of last state league season.

Playing for South Hobart, Brennan scored 25 goals in the Tasmania national premier league to finish as the competition’s second highest goal-getter, and won the league’s best and fairest award.

“He is a player that we’ve identified could turn into a very good player in the A-League,’’ Stubbins said in a statement.

2nd highest goal-getter (wot an ugly term...).
Really? So why didn't we get the phucker with the most then? lol

22yo? Worth a try.

[De-Champ]

Should try and get Di Natale, proven goal scorer in a mediocre team.
He is leaving Udinese, MLS teams are looking at him, why not the Jets

[Beeen]

Would be an awesome signing. We're more likely to go for that huge striker (forget his name) that used to/still does?? play for wycombe wanderers as our marquee. Get the egg ball fans coming to games.

[Jeterpool]

One of the questions on the Jets Members survey was "what do you expect from the club"

What are people's expectations on performance next year?

- A-League (Grand final winners/premiers/Semis/Top 6/better than 10th)

FFA Cup (Winners/Semis/Quarter finals/Round 16/Round 32)


For me, I expect us to make Quarter Finals of FFA cup and Reach the Top 6 next year.

[Tommyjet]

One of the questions on the Jets Members survey was "what do you expect from the club"

What are people's expectations on performance next year?

- A-League (Grand final winners/premiers/Semis/Top 6/better than 10th)

FFA Cup (Winners/Semis/Quarter finals/Round 16/Round 32)


For me, I expect us to make Quarter Finals of FFA cup and Reach the Top 6 next year.

That's what I put too, I expect significant improvement, not unimaginable improvement

[Tommyjet]

For those keen to look for potential foreign players I suggest u look on transfermarket.com, got to menu and look in the available section. More than enough quality players coming out if contract

[MFKS]

One of the questions on the Jets Members survey was "what do you expect from the club"

What are people's expectations on performance next year?

- A-League (Grand final winners/premiers/Semis/Top 6/better than 10th)

FFA Cup (Winners/Semis/Quarter finals/Round 16/Round 32)


For me, I expect us to make Quarter Finals of FFA cup and Reach the Top 6 next year.



Muppet Tinkler and co have treated us like shit due to their petty vendettas and their Moving Forward Bullshit

I am setting my expectations where they need to be to justify the level of shit we have endured and then the needless butthurt inflicted.

I expect us to win the HAL.

If they can achieve that then and ONLY then the hurt is worth while.
If they can't then the hurt has been needlessly inflicted by ****S as we would have been rebuilding anyway and could have done so without their slash and burn philosophy alienating people because of their ****ing EGOS

[Frodo]

I honestly think we will struggle again next year but i will accept it if they once and for all sort out all the bullshit within the club.
-Tinks either goes away or starts running us like a decent HAL club. (pay on time, proper coaching and training, improved youth facilities/pathways)
-Stubbins gets his squad how he wants and builds a team that goes out every week and busts their asses off trying to win the game. I think finals football should be a minimum requirement to keep his job.
-No more massive turn over of players. Maybe 5-8 movements at the end of the season and 1-2 players brought in mid season if we have injuries.

Give me that next year and i'll probably still find something to whinge about... if i'm being honest.

[The Dunster]

http://thisevilempire.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fonzie3.gif

[tomo]

One of the questions on the Jets Members survey was "what do you expect from the club"

What are people's expectations on performance next year?

- A-League (Grand final winners/premiers/Semis/Top 6/better than 10th)

FFA Cup (Winners/Semis/Quarter finals/Round 16/Round 32)


For me, I expect us to make Quarter Finals of FFA cup and Reach the Top 6 next year.

Im with u on that one... Quarters and Top 6

[plague]

Im with u on that one... Quarters and Top 6

Nope.

By saying we want to get to the quarters of the FFA cup you are saying to Stubbins that's its ok to get knocked out.

So then when we do get dusted in the first round he'll come out and say "we have achieved our goal before we had planned. Sure signs we are moving forward".

I'm with Member, win or get the **** out.

[Grimario]

It's a salary capped league. If our aim isn't to win every year, the people in charge can **** off.

[weston]

I'm ok with Stubbins getting knocked out.....

[GazFish35]

That question was worded horribly.
Many were IMO.

What do I expect?
I expect us to finish last again

What do I expect my club to aim for.
To win the ****ing thing everything year. Salary cap etc etc

[hawk]

http://thisevilempire.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fonzie3.gif

lol, yes we have jumped it.


That question was worded horribly.
Many were IMO.

What do I expect?
I expect us to finish last again

What do I expect my club to aim for.
To win the ****ing thing everything year. Salary cap etc etc

that's how I read it as well. expect bottom 2 finish with the current inept leaders

[tomo]

Nope.

By saying we want to get to the quarters of the FFA cup you are saying to Stubbins that's its ok to get knocked out.

So then when we do get dusted in the first round he'll come out and say "we have achieved our goal before we had planned. Sure signs we are moving forward".

I'm with Member, win or get the **** out.

Minimum expectation.... Top 6 and quarters. Anything less is massive failure! And stubbins should go

[stopper2]

If all Members were fair dinkum about this survey than the feedback for the club should be pretty bloody well damning on all fronts for the club. They probably don't take too much notice on Social media as they probably think...."oh that's just a minority". Once they get all the results in and tabulate all the data, just hope they are shitting bricks about the prospect of having less than 5,000 members. The thing is will it worry Tinkler, with him you just don't know whether that would concern him or whether that is what he actually wants!

[Hunter403]

Gave them a serve over man management, the price of beer (important!) my hatred of our initiation Knights strip (bring back the GOLD), the lies and the inept coaching.

Also said FFA 1/4 finals and top 6 finish

[tomo]

Tinks should sign van der vaart 👍

[MFKS]

If all Members were fair dinkum about this survey than the feedback for the club should be pretty bloody well damning on all fronts for the club. They probably don't take too much notice on Social media as they probably think...."oh that's just a minority". Once they get all the results in and tabulate all the data, just hope they are shitting bricks about the prospect of having less than 5,000 members. The thing is will it worry Tinkler, with him you just don't know whether that would concern him or whether that is what he actually wants!

Tabulating the data???

As if they have the staff to go through and read the emails let alone take notes on any good ideas coming through and then have the ability to act on them

[Jetmaster]

It's a survey, just a token members "feedback" gesture - you would be lucky to get a 10% response rate and much of the feedback, especially overly negative will be ignored.

You could put "I would like to buy Messi for the Jets with my own money" and there would be no response.

[Jeterpool]

It's a survey, just a token members "feedback" gesture - you would be lucky to get a 10% response rate and much of the feedback, especially overly negative will be ignored.

You could put "I would like to buy Messi for the Jets with my own money" and there would be no response.

I've dealt with the membership team as part of the sub-committee and I don't get the impression they would ignore constructive feedback or negative feedback. They aren't oblivious to the what's gone on. The question is whether they are able to make changes and influence based on this feedback higher up the Jets organisational structure.

[snake]

you can say all you want in a survey, the jerks simply don't have the backroom staff to make use of it, and they're shedding more all the time.

if you want to make a point they'll notice, then call up and cancel your auto-renew payment option.

loyalty has no place in it. your dollars don't support the players. the club loses money hand over fist with wvery game they host. you're "contributions" of what, $10-20 per game, mean nothing.

anything less than cancelling and you're an enabler of the shit they're dishing up. newy needs less sheep.

[q-money]

listen to snake

[boz-monaut]

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/snake-money-12655017.jpg

[plague]

anything less than cancelling and you're an enabler of the shit they're dishing up. newy needs less sheep.

http://i2.wp.com/www.brobible.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/USA.gif?resize=480%2C270
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/fresh-prince-dj-jazzy-jeff.gif?w=694

[Frodo]

Just had a bit of look at players coming off contract on Transfermarkt, and by that i mean i was at my desk "working" very hard if my boss asks...

Luciano Becchio is off contract from the Championship. I know he is 31 but i think someone coming from the Championship, if competitive, would be a step above most players in our league.

Where would you guys class the HAL level on the scale of English leagues, or some of the lower leagues around Europe?

[lil_masi]

Zac Anderson has just been cut by the Mariners. Hopefully we pick him up. Syd Fc after him as well.

Cernak released also. Hope we dont sign him

[MFKS]

Just had a bit of look at players coming off contract on Transfermarkt, and by that i mean i was at my desk "working" very hard if my boss asks...

Luciano Becchio is off contract from the Championship. I know he is 31 but i think someone coming from the Championship, if competitive, would be a step above most players in our league.

Where would you guys class the HAL level on the scale of English leagues, or some of the lower leagues around Europe?

Second Division.

Everyone forgets they play 46 game seasons plus cup ties in shit conditions for most of the year.

Put those blokes on a week to week preparation and they would kick the shit out of HAL sides.

Don't forget we have Mass Luongo playing League 1 and Bailey Wright Playing League 1 also.

[MFKS]

Zac Anderson has just been cut by the Mariners. Hopefully we pick him up. Syd Fc after him as well.

Cernak released also. Hope we dont sign him

Yep we really are struggling when people are HOPING we pick up Gypo Rejects

[De-Champ]

Second Division.

Everyone forgets they play 46 game seasons plus cup ties in shit conditions for most of the year.

Put those blokes on a week to week preparation and they would kick the shit out of HAL sides.

Don't forget we have Mass Luongo playing League 1 and Bailey Wright Playing League 1 also.

We also have Jedinak in the EPL

[Nou Camp]

Where would you guys class the HAL level on the scale of English leagues, or some of the lower leagues around Europe?

I think a league teams would struggle week to week in league 2

[plague]

I think a league teams would struggle week to week in league 2

The travel would really affect them.

[parksey]

lol

[hawk]

Yep we really are struggling when people are HOPING we pick up Gypo Rejects

if we were struggling we'd have someone trying to improve us. We are happy where we are at.

[tomo]

if we were struggling we'd have someone trying to improve us. We are happy where we are at.

We're not struggling... We won a trophy this year...

[Jeterpool]

I've had a look through the history books and looked at the annual squad turnover between each season. This only takes into account players who have played a game for us, so the likes of Tando Velaphi, John Solari, Ben McNamara, Jason Culina aren't included. Once they played a game, they were counted in the squad. The players released or leaving the club at the end of each season (when compared to who started) is as follows

S1 = 12 players
S2 = 9 players
S3 = 12 player
S4 = 13 players
S5 = 11 players
S6 = 10 players
S7 = 10 players
S8 = 8 players
S9 = 13 player
S10 = 22 players * (this includes players who are currently re-negotiating so number may reduce).

If we look at the two seasons where the fewest changes occurred, we all know what happened in Season 3, while just missing out on the finals in Season 9 it was our highest ever season points tally.

By my count we may have 15 spots to fill on the roster. And while I agree with many that a cleanout was needed after years of mediocrity (disregarding the appalling manner in which some of these "partings" have occurred) it's perhaps too much too soon. Where are we going to locate 15 players who can form a team and be of a standard which can compete? We're a hard sell at the moment to any player, and if some of the media reports are correct about reneging on promises we're going to be even less attractive.

I'm fearing for us next season because after what we all thought was our last major change in Season 8 with the likes of Taggart, Brillante, Cooper coming on board, it takes at least a season for the squad to gel.

Dear Herald. What topic would you like me to bring up next week so you can write about it?

[boz-monaut]

do an article on crowds and how crowd takings have declined since Stubbins came on board

continue the current trends into next season for both season ticket holders and game day crowds, and show that by the end of next season, with Stubbins still in place, crowds will not only be lower than the number of season ticket holders, they will will drop below zero

e.g. last season we had 10,003 members

crowds went from 11,884 in the first game against Victory to 4,162 in the second to last game against Perth

that means 5,841 with tickets didn't bother to turn up

if, as seems likely from talk about the town and straw polls on this website, we get fewer than 5,000 season ticket holders next season - we may well get a crowd for the next game of –841

I'm sure you can use your fancy statistical analysis to firm up these numbers but you can't ignore these trends

[militiamon]

lol boz :rof:

statistics :yap:

[Jeterpool]

do an article on crowds and how crowd takings have declined since Stubbins came on board

continue the current trends into next season for both season ticket holders and game day crowds, and show that by the end of next season, with Stubbins still in place, crowds will not only be lower than the number of season ticket holders, they will will drop below zero

e.g. last season we had 10,003 members

crowds went from 11,884 in the first game against Victory to 4,162 in the second to last game against Perth

that means 5,841 with tickets didn't bother to turn up

if, as seems likely from talk about the town and straw polls on this website, we get fewer than 5,000 season ticket holders next season - we may well get a crowd for the next game of –841

I'm sure you can use your fancy statistical analysis to firm up these numbers but you can't ignore these trends

:gent: please. Nothing fancy in what I do

[furns]

Would be great to have some different content to post up on the front page.
Jeterpool and anyone else who would like to write regular articles feel free to contact me so I can sort you access.

[Wilso8948]

Apparently front runners with Perth to sign Bulut. Personal opinion.. Would take.

[MFKS]

Have heard today that Nick Cowburn was not offered a Yoof contract where he would get his 45-50k a year and be part of the senior squad for next season training FT as has been widely believed to be from reports in the media this week

Have heard he is being offered a Yoof contract i.e. The same one the rest of our yoof team is on ie $100 a week and match payments for HAL appearances

If true a ****ing disgrace from these clowns

[Maito Mitch]

Apparently front runners with Perth to sign Bulut. Personal opinion.. Would take.

This club gets more hatable all the time

[Wilso8948]

This club gets more hatable all the time
Least it'd actually make each game interesting. Even though he's a bit of a clown he's at least entertaining and would be good for a laugh

[borat]

Have heard today that Nick Cowburn was not offered a Yoof contract where he would get his 45-50k a year and be part of the senior squad for next season training FT as has been widely believed to be from reports in the media this week

Have heard he is being offered a Yoof contract i.e. The same one the rest of our yoof team is on ie $100 a week and match payments for HAL appearances

If true a ****ing disgrace from these clowns
Yes it's a disgrace.....except that Nick is too old for a full time NYL contract. Those contracts are 2 years in length and the recipient needs to be no older than 20 in the second year.

If as reported he has a letter of intent for a standard HAL contract from next year then he is getting the best deal he can get bar an immediate full time contract.

[GazFish35]

The club list respect commitment and community in its values.

Bulut?

[borat]

The club list respect commitment and community in its values.

Bulut?

So does the Brothers for Life so no problem😜

[The Postman]

Yes it's a disgrace.....except that Nick is too old for a full time NYL contract. Those contracts are 2 years in length and the recipient needs to be no older than 20 in the second year.

If as reported he has a letter of intent for a standard HAL contract from next year then he is getting the best deal he can get bar an immediate full time contract.

What kind of contract is Brandon Lundy on? He is under contract until the of the 15/16 season.

[borat]

What kind of contract is Brandon Lundy on? He is under contract until the of the 15/16 season.
Lundy is confirmed on a NYL full time contract and most likely Pavecevic as well

[MFKS]

Lundy is confirmed on a NYL full time contract and most likely Pavecevic as well

Lundy is on a NYL contract

I was told to today Pavicevic is on a full contract.

We have 2 spot available for NYL deals

Whether Cowburn is too old is irrelevant. 10 appearances and 12 vacant squad spots says he should get a deal. Not be expected to live on peanuts and be used by the club as they see fit.

What's to say next year the blokes making him these promises are still here to keep their end of the bargain or are even prepared to keep their promise being they can't be trusted??

Basically they are treating him like a chump and giving him no reward for his efforts.

#SlaveLabour

[The Postman]

Lundy is on a NYL contract

I was told to today Pavicevic is on a full contract.

We have 2 spot available for NYL deals

Whether Cowburn is too old is irrelevant. 10 appearances and 12 vacant squad spots says he should get a deal. Not be expected to live on peanuts and be used by the club as they see fit.

What's to say next year the blokes making him these promises are still here to keep their end of the bargain or are even prepared to keep their promise being they can't be trusted??

Basically they are treating him like a chump and giving him no reward for his efforts.

#SlaveLabour

No offence to Rad Pav but if he is full time then so should Cowbie, I couldn't blame him for leaving this circus.

[borat]

Yep that's the one. Going into his 2nd year next season. There is no obligation by the club to confirm this type of contract, often they say they have just signed a full time contract, but Lundy confirmed this himself and so did the Jets when he signed on. The Herald has published stories describing Lundy on an apprentice contract.

Pavecevic will be on one too given the 2 year deal for a youth player. It means nothing that they permanently train with the HAL squad, it's just another type of contract but one that garuantees min HAL wage (50k or there abouts this year).

[mervan]

Yep that's the one. Going into his 2nd year next season. There is no obligation by the club to confirm this type of contract, often they say they have just signed a full time contract, but Lundy confirmed this himself and so did the Jets when he signed on. The Herald has published stories describing Lundy on an apprentice contract.

Pavecevic will be on one too given the 2 year deal for a youth player. It means nothing that they permanently train with the HAL squad, it's just another type of contract but one that garuantees min HAL wage (50k or there abouts this year).

$50k? What's the poverty line, why would you bother

[Fairgo]

$50k? What's the poverty line, why would you bother

I laugh at this there is so many kids out here chasing there dream $50k at 19 is huge when the behind the scenes work is put in which not many bloggers appreciate. It is easy too opt out and go to NPL to earn a few extra dollars short term. 90% of theses kids will not proceed but will be lead to believe there is hope only to see the disgrace of a club that continue to promote or give opportunity to outsiders.

[The Postman]

One more name to add to the list of guys that won't sign with the Jets - Corey Gameiro

Apparently next in line when Stubbins misses out on Bernie and Mclaren

[seldom]

One more name to add to the list of guys that won't sign with the Jets - Corey Gameiro

Apparently next in line when Stubbins misses out on Bernie and Mclaren

Pfft...Don't need them...We've signed the 2nd leading scorer from the Tasmanian all age comp.

[The Postman]

Pfft...Don't need them...We've signed the 2nd leading scorer from the Tasmanian all age comp.

You are right, Stubbins is assembling a solid mid table NPL team

[MFKS]

$50k? What's the poverty line, why would you bother
So you would prefer the club pay a kid $100 a week with the sacrifices he has to make with social life and employment opportunities and expect him to continue playing in the Yoofs and then they get him to fill in with the HAL when they see fit??

Lets remember the kid has played 10 times this season so they rate him enough to do a job but then on the other hand can't be arsed giving him the security of a deal.

Sure that will make the kid feel right at home when he goes to training busting his arse for peanuts and his teammates are getting paid 10 to 20 times more than him for the same effort and have some security for their lives.

Maybe we should put all our players on one of these Youth contracts then and open up a cotton farm FFS

[borat]

The standard NYL contract earns about 5k from recollection. Does anyone know if the NYL team additionally earn more for playing in the NPL outside of the NYL season? I am assuming they do.

[hawk]

$50k? What's the poverty line, why would you bother

Most people earn this at a drudge job. spose you pay this in tax?

[MFKS]

Most people earn this at a drudge job. spose you pay this in tax?

Hold on he is probably the type who wipes his arse with $20's and blows his nose with $50's

[boz-monaut]

when you consider that you career is over not long after your 30th birthday, $50k is quite shit

the only blokes who'd chose this as a career would have to have very few other options

[MFKS]

when you consider that you career is over not long after your 30th birthday, $50k is quite shit

the only blokes who'd chose this as a career would have to have very few other options

50k is the minimum money for the blokes at the bottom end of a HAL squad.

The blokes higher up get more and then your good players do pretty well.

Add in the opportunity to travel overseas like Taggz and Beard and earn some serious coin if you do well.

Sure there are a lot of failures but those that do succeed can live quite comfortably. Those who do make a career out of being a HAL player ain't exactly eating 3 for $1 home brand noodles their career.

Sure there are plenty of jobs in the world paying more than 50k but to say these blokes are skint is wrong.

[The Dunster]

$50k a year is a pretty good deal for doing something you enjoy like playing football.
There is also no law saying former players can't get another career / job when their playing days are over either.
Very few people get to retire at 30 years of age regardless of their profession - I don't see why footballers should be any different.
Certain trades are short term as well given fatigue and injuries - but you don't see brickies and so on whining like most pro athletes about the short length of their careers.

[boz-monaut]

pretty much every other job has better job security and longevity

you'd have to be utterly brilliant or an idiot incapable of a profession to try your luck as a professional footballer

[Fairgo]

The standard NYL contract earns about 5k from recollection. Does anyone know if the NYL team additionally earn more for playing in the NPL outside of the NYL season? I am assuming they do.

So what I have been told they get $200pw during NYL (ffa regulated across the board) and $100pw during NPL but the outsiders get extra not sure how much I think $150 maybe $200 during NPL to offset living away from home. If they sit on the bench or play in ALeague they get an extra match payment of $550 or there about not sure of exact payment.

[mervan]

when you consider that you career is over not long after your 30th birthday, $50k is quite shit

the only blokes who'd chose this as a career would have to have very few other options

That is my point, but the member being the muppit he is continues his personal attack, must feel threatened

[Tommyjet]

NEWCASTLE have stepped up their pursuit of Sydney striker Bernie Ibini, as the Sky Blues work through their efforts to squeeze a host of stars into the salary cap.

Ibini’s loan spell with Sydney from Chinese club Shanghai Dongya finishes at the end of the season and the Jets have made him one of their priority targets as coach Phil Stubbins continues a wholesale overhaul of his squad.

Ibini scores stunner0:36
Though Ibini has a longstanding relationship with Sydney coach Graham Arnold, there remains uncertainty over what deal the Sky Blues can offer in the face of competing pay demands from the likes of Milos Dimitrijevic, Mickael Tavares and Jacques Faty.

It’s also unclear whether a loan fee would be payable for Ibini, who signed a three-year deal with Shanghai in June 2013 but was loaned back to the Mariners in January 2014, and then to Sydney later last year. Under new A-League rules, most loan fees are included in the salary cap, but both Sydney and the Jets are hopeful Shanghai will agree to release Ibini from the last year of his contract.

Sydney FC star Bernie Ibini is being targeted by Newcastle. Picture: Mark Evans
Sydney FC star Bernie Ibini is being targeted by Newcastle. Picture: Mark EvansSource: News Corp Australia
Though pay talks are ongoing with several players, Sydney’s focus this week is their semi-final with Adelaide on Saturday night, a place in the grand final awaiting the winner.


Foxsports article.

But it’s believed the Jets are ready to make Ibini a substantial offer as Stubbins looks to establish a first-choice forward line for next season.

Meanwhile Perth have emerged as a potential destination for defender Zac Anderson, who left the Mariners last week. Though a move up the F3 to the Jets remains a possibility, Stubbins already has Daniel Mullen and Nigel Boogaard signed for next year, while Sydney FC’s priority is to secure Jacques Faty for next season at the completion of his injury replacement contract.

[pv4]

Have heard today that Nick Cowburn was not offered a Yoof contract where he would get his 45-50k a year and be part of the senior squad for next season training FT as has been widely believed to be from reports in the media this week

Have heard he is being offered a Yoof contract i.e. The same one the rest of our yoof team is on ie $100 a week and match payments for HAL appearances

If true a ****ing disgrace from these clowns

Nick can play across the backline. Has been in our system for years. Has proven he is up to HAL level with his run of games this season. Is local. Can cross, which is extremely rare for a HAL player.

If he isn't worth a squad spot at minimum wage, I don't know what is.

[Jeterpool]

Nick can play across the backline. Has been in our system for years. Has proven he is up to HAL level with his run of games this season. Is local. Can cross, which is extremely rare for a HAL player.

If he isn't worth a squad spot at minimum wage, I don't know what is.

Someone who can play anywhere across the field, can't cross and comes from Sydney

[The Dunster]

If Ibini is the answer the question must be "how can we drive away the few fans we have left".

[borat]

Ibini would be the best Aust Marquee in the HAL if we signed him. A current Socceroo in his prime who isn't looking to play OS due to his family issues. Sign a decent central striker to play as a foil and it's a win win combination.

On the Cowburn situation it's an interesting gamble the Jets are taking. If no other club offers Nick a HAL deal then the Jets offer of a guaranteed deal the following season will be his best offer. And we get a handy backup outside the top 23.

Although Nick will be able to sign for any club during the NYL season. NYL contracts do not lock the player down from a pro deal.

[plague]

Ibini would be the best Aust Marquee in the HAL if we signed him. A current Socceroo in his prime who isn't looking to play OS due to his family issues.

Oh man, the off season sure has started with a bang.

I gotta get in shape if I'm gonna compete with some of you this winter.

[MFKS]

Oh man, the off season sure has started with a bang.

I gotta get in shape if I'm gonna compete with some of you this winter.

http://www.staffingagencyphoenix.com/files/2012/11/A-Game-Interview.jpg

[borat]

Oh man, the off season sure has started with a bang.

I gotta get in shape if I'm gonna compete with some of you this winter.
Name any better...............(yeah didn't think so)

[plague]

Name any better...............(yeah didn't think so)

Stu Musialik.

Boom.

Thanks again,
Plague.

[pv4]

Name any better...............(yeah didn't think so)

I'd rather Bresciano or Holman as Australian Marquee to Ibini.

Hell, I'd even rather Bulut.

[pv4]

^ actually, I'd love Bulut at our club. Even if we had to pay him Australian Marquee wages. The guy is a winner, and is an absolutely amazing player.

I don't see him being a realistic option, because I think he has his heart set on a European move, but man could he win us some games.

He doesn't fit into Phil's yes-men philosophy though.

[BodyNovo]

wilkshire and jimmy holland spring to mind

would play wilkshire in the centre of the park as well.

[BodyNovo]

ibini is not an australian marquee, hoole is better than him imo

i'm with pv4 in taking bulut

i would take macclaren, bulut, juric, and even babalj before i took ibini

[borat]

I'd rather Bresciano or Holman as Australian Marquee to Ibini.

Hell, I'd even rather Bulut.
Bresciano and Holman....sigh...why not Viduka or H is still available I hear.

Both would be expensive geriatric failures and just the type of marquee we usually sign.

Of the younger Socceroos, Jimmy Holland or Tagz would be better but I highly doubt either would consider returning to the HAL. Maybe Bozanic might consider a return.

Of players already here Franjic is an option and Mooy is locked down already. Ibini is a realistic option who is available, and a good player to boot, in a position we need to fill.

[plague]

Ibini is a realistic option who is available ......,,,in a position we need to fill.

I didn't know he could coach.

[pv4]

Bresciano and Holman....sigh...why not Viduka or H is still available I hear.

Both would be expensive geriatric failures and just the type of marquee we usually sign.

Of the younger Socceroos, Jimmy Holland or Tagz would be better but I highly doubt either would consider returning to the HAL. Maybe Bozanic might consider a return.

Of players already here Franjic is an option and Mooy is locked down already. Ibini is a realistic option who is available, and a good player to boot, in a position we need to fill.

You want your marquee to bring a lot to the team, and hopefully sell some shirts while they're at it. Holman and Bresciano would do both, to an extent. Bresciano would sell more shirts. Let's not forget only a couple of months ago Bresciano was still playing for the national team. He'd be amazing if he came back.

None of the guys you've mentioned would be worthy of marquee wages. If they did choose to come back to the HAL, no one would be sane in paying them over 300k and all of them should be under the cap.

It is commonly known that Ibini can't stand the lifestyle in China, and has done just about everything he can to be back in Australia since he came to that realisation. And I fully expect the smart clubs to lowball offers to him, because they know if he keeps saying no then eventually he will have exhausted all his options at home. If anyone pays him marquee wages, they're idiots. Particularly when you take into account he's pretty inconsistent, and is more of an athlete than a footballer.

[borat]

I didn't know he could coach.haha I will pay that

[borat]

You want your marquee to bring a lot to the team, and hopefully sell some shirts while they're at it. Holman and Bresciano would do both, to an extent. Bresciano would sell more shirts. Let's not forget only a couple of months ago Bresciano was still playing for the national team. He'd be amazing if he came back.

None of the guys you've mentioned would be worthy of marquee wages. If they did choose to come back to the HAL, no one would be sane in paying them over 300k and all of them should be under the cap.

It is commonly known that Ibini can't stand the lifestyle in China, and has done just about everything he can to be back in Australia since he came to that realisation. And I fully expect the smart clubs to lowball offers to him, because they know if he keeps saying no then eventually he will have exhausted all his options at home. If anyone pays him marquee wages, they're idiots. Particularly when you take into account he's pretty inconsistent, and is more of an athlete than a footballer.

Well i respect your opinion but can't disagree anymore. I couldn't give a toss about selling shirts and doubt very much the Jets make anything substantial from the sales. This club has a history of signing deadbeat marquees looking for a retirement cheque. For once I would like to see them sign a marquee player on the up rather than crocked and a foot in retirement. No one said they should be paid 300k although I would suggest Jimmy could command it. But all would be your top paid Aust player which means all qualify for marquee.

Your conments about what is "commonly known" about Ibini's return to the HAL are rather puzzling considering he returned because his father was diagnosed with a serious/terminal illness which is why Shanghai agreed to the loan back to Sydney. And why there are only 4 clubs who can compete for his signature.

[Jeterpool]

Regardless of the debate, the FFA would have to decide if Ibini qualifies as an Australian Marquee.

I don't think he'd satisfy the criteria.

[Frodo]

If anyone pays him marquee wages, they're idiots. Particularly when you take into account he's pretty inconsistent, and is more of an athlete than a footballer.

Therefore he will definitely be our Australian Marquee!

[pv4]

Regardless of the debate, the FFA would have to decide if Ibini qualifies as an Australian Marquee.

I don't think he'd satisfy the criteria.

Given that he has recently had a call up to the national team, I think he would qualify if a club pushed it enough. Also if we take the eg of the FFA allowing Thwaite to be considered an Australian Marquee for Perth, I can't see them not allowing Ibini to be one also.

Borat - if we're paying any of those guys 300k or less, there's no point in "wasting" our marquee spot on them, and we should be signing a legitimate marquee. Clubs all over the league pay 200-300k for many squad players. Most visa players are on 200-300k. We should be able to sign one or two of the 300k guys AND get an actual marquee.

FWIW Ibini's story is he despised China basically the moment he was moved in there. He was desperate to get his contract torn up, or a loan move, but his club said no. Until his father got sick, and they allowed it. He has never had any interest in moving back to China - regardless of family situation. He hates it there, and every agent knows it.

[MFKS]

You guys can fap off over big name Aussie marquees.

Have it on good authority a player agent was asked by Jets to sound out a big name Aussie player he has on his books

Player agents response was to Jets he wasn't even gonna ask his man about Jets as he thought player would sack him on the spot


Make no mistake about it amongst any decent Australian player Newcastle Jets name is currently turd

[Frodo]

Make no mistake about it amongst any decent Australian player Newcastle Jets name is currently turd

How many years has it been since our name DIDN'T mean Turd? Tinks is just talking himself up with this marquee bullshit. We won't have any marquees for the next few years and we will be run on basic funding for the foreseeable future. He just doesn't have enough money and doesn't care enough.

[boz-monaut]

it's actually good in some ways that the club is openly talking up who they'll sign

so when your Peter Crouch and 'big name Australian marquee' bullshit falls flat on it's face time and time again we can all laugh at this useles bastard's incompetence in every aspect of running a club

[furns]

Ibini would be the best Aust Marquee in the HAL if we signed him. A current Socceroo in his prime who isn't looking to play OS due to his family issues. Sign a decent central striker to play as a foil and it's a win win combination.

On the Cowburn situation it's an interesting gamble the Jets are taking. If no other club offers Nick a HAL deal then the Jets offer of a guaranteed deal the following season will be his best offer. And we get a handy backup outside the top 23.

Although Nick will be able to sign for any club during the NYL season. NYL contracts do not lock the player down from a pro deal.

Just ask Reegz about how that guaranteed deal for next season is going. If I was Cowburn, and dealing with these jerks, I would be doing what is best for him.
Like Hoole did.

[Grimario]

Just ask Reegz about how that guaranteed deal for next season is going. If I was Cowburn, and dealing with these jerks, I would be doing what is best for him.
Like Hoole did.

Wait... weren't you the one who wished Hoole did both his ACL's and never played football again?

[parksey]

ibini is not an australian marquee, hoole is better than him imo

i'm with pv4 in taking bulut

i would take macclaren, bulut, juric, and even babalj before i took ibini

come on, ibini is easily better than hoole

totally different player to the other guys but i rate him above all of them except maybe bulut and juric on his day.

[furns]

Wait... weren't you the one who wished Hoole did both his ACL's and never played football again?
Nope. I am on record that is a shame he is leaving but understandable under the current administration.

[380]

Would take Ibini but NOT as Oz Marquee or having to throw stupid amounts of money to get him.

I liken him to Kwasnik, Unless he gets his daily kiss and cuddle from Arnie and told how important he is he will perform like a busted ass.

[Blackmac79]

Wait... weren't you the one who wished Hoole did both his ACL's and never played football again?

Was me

[hawk]

Nope. I am on record that is a shame he is leaving but understandable under the current administration.

And I said he was a cvnt for leaving. albeit a sensible one...

[boz-monaut]

I actually think any player who stays is a cünt

seriously, why would they stay if there were any other option?

[tomo]

Thoughts on bringing Fabian Barbiero back to the A-League??

[hawk]

tinks and coaches are temporary so at some point there has to be a stand where some players of quality decide to arrive/stay in spite of the current regime in the hope of building us back into somewhat of a decent team.

If this doesn't happen then newy can just fk off and adore eggball and that's what a lot of cunce seem to want.

[Bon]

If this doesn't happen then newy can just fk off and adore eggball and that's what a lot of cunce seems to want.

You are correct, although I prefer the term "handegg".. :thumbsup:

[Jetmaster]

Not as many eggball freaks these days in Newy - their demographic is older and dozens are falling off the perch each year.

We missed a golden opportunity in 2008.

[Grimario]

Nope. I am on record that is a shame he is leaving but understandable under the current administration.
So you'd understand if I jumped ship to Adelaide given it's now my home and the current administration etc?

Was me
And you'd hope I tear an elbow tendon playing disc golf?

[Jeterpool]

I'm already bored with the off season

[Grimario]

I'm already bored with the off season

I've been bored with the off season since early January.

[MFKS]

I reckon its great.

Not having to worry about watching us get beaten for the next 5 months is literally the best thing to happen to the club since the day Griff came back.

Living day to day through the ineptness of Muppet and Mr Burns driving our club into the ground is taking it out of us all.

5 months of relief :brrr:

[Tommyjet]

I reckon its great.

Not having to worry about watching us get beaten for the next 5 months is literally the best thing to happen to the club since the day Griff came back.

Living day to day through the ineptness of Muppet and Mr Burns driving our club into the ground is taking it out of us all.

5 months of relief :brrr:

It's a preseason involving the jets. We never have a totally quiet offseason.

This is surely the calm before another storm.

[MFKS]

It's a preseason involving the jets. We never have a totally quiet offseason.

This is surely the calm before another storm.

Actually I think last off season was probably our most drama free effort ever. Barely much of an issue at all.

Think once the season rolled around we made up for it though.

Bring on the Drama I say

[Tommyjet]

Actually I think last off season was probably our most drama free effort ever. Barely much of an issue at all.

Think once the season rolled around we made up for it though.

Bring on the Drama I say

We are suckers for punishment

[Blackmac79]

I reckon its great.

Not having to worry about watching us get beaten for the next 5 months is literally the best thing to happen to the club since the day Griff came back.

Living day to day through the ineptness of Muppet and Mr Burns driving our club into the ground is taking it out of us all.

5 months of relief :brrr:

Cup is in June. 1 and a bit months to see us get knocked out

[lquiquer]

Cup is in June. 1 and a bit months to see us get knocked out

Round of 32?.... When in june?..... By the way we will play either WSW , CCM , Perth, Brisbane or City....

[Jeterpool]

Round of 32?.... When in june?..... By the way we will play either WSW , CCM , Perth, Brisbane or City....

Is that serious or just a statement on our luck?

[lquiquer]

Is that serious or just a statement on our luck?

Hoping for CCM in Gosford but not in June, I'm away for almost 4 weeks....

[BodyNovo]

imagine an F3 Derby for the Cup in Gosford that would be fukin unreal.

will most likely get Perth and lose 2-0 again but.

[MFKS]

Is that serious or just a statement on our luck?

According to how it was done last year the Top 4 get a bye from playing HAL sides first up and the bottom 6 HAL sides have to play one another first. All to do with the way it is rigged so one NPL side makes the semis etc.
That's how we got Perth Adelaide got Nix and Smurfs got Heart as these were the bottom 6 HAL sides from the season before when Roar beat WSW in the GF

So unless the FFA have changed it we will be in a pot of 6 which will be Roar Heart Glory Wankers Gypos and us

[q-money]

need the gypos in this badly

[Jeterpool]

According to how it was done last year the Top 4 get a bye from playing HAL sides first up and the bottom 6 HAL sides have to play one another first. All to do with the way it is rigged so one NPL side makes the semis etc.
That's how we got Perth Adelaide got Nix and Smurfs got Heart as these were the bottom 6 HAL sides from the season before when Roar beat WSW in the GF

So unless the FFA have changed it we will be in a pot of 6 which will be Roar Heart Glory Wankers Gypos and us

Thankyou.

[MFKS]

need the gypos in this badly

No we ****ing don't its the last team we need

Lose and the embarrassment of losing to those ****s

Win and it gives credence to Muppets Moving Backwards philosophy regardless of whether it is warranted or not.


No win situation for us

[q-money]

if only by your reaction i think it's justified

get us the gypos

[BodyNovo]

if only by your reaction i think it's justified

get us the gypos

make it happen.

[lquiquer]

No we ****ing don't its the last team we need

Lose and the embarrassment of losing to those ****s

Win and it gives credence to Muppets Moving Backwards philosophy regardless of whether it is warranted or not.


No win situation for us

If we win then get your banner out: King for a day, fool for a lifetime

[leftrightout]

I don't understand how we can possibly enter the FFA cup do we even have 11 contracted players? haha

[Grimario]

Football Injury Time ‏@FBInjuryTime 38m38 minutes ago
.@vitorsaba is close to signing with @NewcastleJetsFC or @SydneyFc with two offers on the table.

@JasonTeixeira2 @vitorsaba @NewcastleJetsFC @SydneyFC verbal offer. Jets have made formal offer

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[MFKS]

if only by your reaction i think it's justified

get us the gypos

But I am at the stage I want to keep losing just to prove those ****s are wrong and I am right

No point dropping games to those Gypsy ****s just to spite me

[tomo]

.

Saba could be a good signing if he pulls his head in...

[Grimario]

Saba could be a good signing if he pulls his head in...

I can't see him rocking up and being a yes man.

[Blackmac79]

Saturday and sunday the 20/21 June is the round of 32

This is according to the NPL draw which has that weekend off for the games. Just looked it up, that must be northerns qualifying games.

Round of 32 is late July. My apologies.

Gosford away in July!

[tomo]

I can't see him rocking up and being a yes man.

Me either. But stubbins will only be there for the first 7 rounds anyway

[tomo]

And that would leave only one visa spot left if montano's staying!

So stubbins is really just on a holiday while he's making the rest of the squad train!

Does an OS MQ count in the 5 visa spots? Or are they completely exempt?

[Jeterpool]

And that would leave only one visa spot left if montano's staying!

So stubbins is really just on a holiday while he's making the rest of the squad train!

Does an OS MQ count in the 5 visa spots? Or are they completely exempt?

No, they count.