View Full Version : vote for 2015–16 manager for Newcastle Football Entity
boz-monaut
24-05-2015, 09:45 AM
no owner, no name, no colours, no Griff (yet)
so who should be running the show?
vote now
Tommyjet
24-05-2015, 09:46 AM
I'm changing my mind to John aloisi
Only one man to lead us and he is not even there.
FfS where is Griff??
boz-monaut
24-05-2015, 10:05 AM
leadership and management are two separate things
stopper2
24-05-2015, 10:55 AM
No Jean Paul de Marigny, considering he resigned from Victory and his name was mentioned in the Herald yesterday, I would put him as one of the favourites.
Couscous
24-05-2015, 11:24 AM
GVE's not a poll option, so I can't vote.
I do not trust any of those people cept slobs in the list who hang around football fields. We need a coach
WolfMan
24-05-2015, 11:45 AM
Voted for Jones - but none of the options fill me with confidence. I do like how we played much better after Jones came on board last season, and also his pivotal role in the Championship season. That is why he receives my vote
GazFish35
24-05-2015, 01:22 PM
Anyone voting for Stubbins will not be banned.
you'll be dealt with by q-mun and his bike chain.
militiamon
24-05-2015, 01:58 PM
Papas numero uno.
2nd tier: Milicic, Rudan, Mulvey
3rd tier: Okon, Vidmar
4th tier: Zane, Aloisi, Jones
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And then when every other human being is dead on the planet, including our entire team of players, Stubbins would probably be ok for the job.
No Jean Paul de Marigny, considering he resigned from Victory and his name was mentioned in the Herald yesterday, I would put him as one of the favourites.
JPM I reckon has it in the bag.
SSMI connexions
lquiquer
24-05-2015, 04:15 PM
Miron is not on the list?
slobsy
24-05-2015, 04:21 PM
Stubbins
stopper2
24-05-2015, 06:41 PM
JPM I reckon has it in the bag.
SSMI connexions
JPM Head coach and Papas Assistant coach?
leftrightout
24-05-2015, 07:10 PM
Whats the deal with the love for Papas around here? Is he really proven or is it just some fantasy people have on here that he will be some kind of undiscovered genius.
I just don't know a lot about him other than that a lot on here seem to think he is the special one
stopper2
24-05-2015, 07:30 PM
Whats the deal with the love for Papas around here? Is he really proven or is it just some fantasy people have on here that he will be some kind of undiscovered genius.
I just don't know a lot about him other than that a lot on here seem to think he is the special one
This is his coaching history.....
2010–2011 Oakleigh Cannons
2010–2011 Australia U17 (assistant)
2011–2012 Newcastle Jets (assistant)
2012 India U23
2012–2013 Pailan Arrows
2013–2015 Dempo
2014 FC Goa (Assistant)
Seriously guys pushing for Papas I think you are all in some fantasy land if you think this is the coach to take over from Stubbins.....still relatively inexperienced and untried at a decent level. Maybe Assistant but not head coach.
JP de Marigny on the other hand has been around for a lot longer and been involved with winning titles at Sydney United (NSW NPL) and of course most recently with Victory.....
2003–04 Marconi Stallions
2005–06 Newcastle Jets (Asst.)
2006 Sydney United FC
2007 NSWIS
2007 Australian Under-17 Joeys
2010–2013 Sydney United FC
2013–2013 Marconi Stallions
2013– Melbourne Victory (Asst.)
Be careful what you wish for!
This is his coaching history.....
2010–2011 Oakleigh Cannons
2010–2011 Australia U17 (assistant)
2011–2012 Newcastle Jets (assistant)
2012 India U23
2012–2013 Pailan Arrows
2013–2015 Dempo
2014 FC Goa (Assistant)
Seriously guys pushing for Papas I think you are all in some fantasy land if you think this is the coach to take over from Stubbins.....still relatively inexperienced and untried at a decent level. Maybe Assistant but not head coach.
JP de Marigny on the other hand has been around for a lot longer and been involved with winning titles at Sydney United (NSW NPL) and of course most recently with Victory.....
2003–04 Marconi Stallions
2005–06 Newcastle Jets (Asst.)
2006 Sydney United FC
2007 NSWIS
2007 Australian Under-17 Joeys
2010–2013 Sydney United FC
2013–2013 Marconi Stallions
2013– Melbourne Victory (Asst.)
Be careful what you wish for!
Be down to he fact Pappas plays good football and has done the hard yards. He has wanted to be a football coach and has had no assistance from the establishment who basically laughed in his face when he rocked up at he AIS wanting a gig.
The bloke can coach and although being a bit left field appeals to a fantasy.
He may not have the runs on the board others have had but opportunity has not ben handed to him on a plate like others
lquiquer
24-05-2015, 07:54 PM
Be down to he fact Pappas plays good football and has done the hard yards. He has wanted to be a football coach and has had no assistance from the establishment who basically laughed in his face when he rocked up at he AIS wanting a gig.
The bloke can coach and although being a bit left field appeals to a fantasy.
He may not have the runs on the board others have had but opportunity has not ben handed to him on a plate like others
As much as I would prefer a coach with A-League experience it worked for GVE in 07 and 08....So it's not a must I guess and they all have to have a start at one stage..
lquiquer
24-05-2015, 07:55 PM
^^ maybe I'm still traumatised with Muppet and lack of experience at HAL level??!!!!
^^ maybe I'm still traumatised with Muppet and lack of experience at HAL level??!!!!
Difference with Muppet and Pappas is even if Pappas got us a wooden spoon we would do it in some style trying to play good football.
Muppet on the other hand has never played exciting football
GVE's not a poll option, so I can't vote.
To vote for yourself would be the total sum of 1
lquiquer
24-05-2015, 08:13 PM
Someone voted for Stubbins...!!??? Please explain :shock:
stopper2
24-05-2015, 08:27 PM
Be down to he fact Pappas plays good football and has done the hard yards. He has wanted to be a football coach and has had no assistance from the establishment who basically laughed in his face when he rocked up at he AIS wanting a gig.
The bloke can coach and although being a bit left field appeals to a fantasy.
He may not have the runs on the board others have had but opportunity has not ben handed to him on a plate like others
Fair enough Member, personally I am just so glad that Muppet will most likely be gone and lets face it not one of the above candidates could do worse than him and be so egotistical so as to literally bring a club to it's knees just so he can keep his job.
stopper2
24-05-2015, 08:28 PM
Someone voted for Stubbins...!!??? Please explain :shock:
Maybe it was Alivodic? LOL
Thomas477
24-05-2015, 08:30 PM
Someone voted for Stubbins...!!??? Please explain :shock:
Manchester City fan, nuff said really.
Jeterpool
24-05-2015, 08:43 PM
Maybe it was Phil so he could experience what it's like to not come last
Maybe it was Phil so he could experience what it's like to not come last
To many jokes about Mrs Stubbins right there
lquiquer
24-05-2015, 09:04 PM
Manchester City fan, nuff said really.
And a Hull reject for sure?????
stopper2
25-05-2015, 04:31 PM
Seems a few have already made up their mind about Papas but the more I think about it the more I like the idea of Milicic being the new boss.
Been around for quite a few years predominantly in an assistant role but has already tasted success at Sydney United (1st season), with WSW and most importantly has been under Ange's influence the past 18 months or so where he was involved with the Socceroos successful Asian Cup campaign.
Both at Heart and WSW he was involved with setting a squad up from scratch and although this is not the case at the Jets, we are in many ways going to be starting over again next year after the heart of our squad was ripped out by the Muppet.
Other boxes that he ticks are that fact that he was a quality striker in his day which means his mindset more than likely will be to go out and win games rather than say an ex-defender like GVE who was much more defensive-minded.
The fact that he played here for a year in the first season also is a plus as he already has a bit of a feel and understanding of the place, which always helps in settling in.
Whether he still would prefer to work under Ange with the Socceroos is the big sticking point but I think he would be up there with one of the best options at this stage.
His coaching experience:
2009 Sydney United
2010–2012 Melbourne Heart (Ass. Manager)
2012– Western Sydney Wanderers (Ass. Manager)
2014– Australia (Ass. Manager)
Hunter403
27-05-2015, 12:28 AM
Apparently Harry Kewell wants a coaching job. Couldn't be worse than the Muppet!
Apparently Harry Kewell wants a coaching job. Couldn't be worse than the Muppet!
Bringing Kewell in would definitely see Michael Bridges back in the club, and we'd see even more of our best promising young players feel ostricized and move elsewhere because of it.
WolfMan
27-05-2015, 06:15 AM
So we get rid of someone with little experience as a manager, and bring in someone with zero experience? No thanks
Grimario
27-05-2015, 12:21 PM
Plenty of mail re who will coach @NewcastleJetsFC. Strongest Mark Rudan, Ufuk Talay assistant. Nothing confirmed. @newcastleherald
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leftrightout
27-05-2015, 01:03 PM
So we get rid of someone with little experience as a manager, and bring in someone with zero experience? No thanks
I want a coach with experience too but it seems like we aren't going to get one. If this is the case, i reckon Rudan would be the best of the inexperienced.
Plus i quite often find myself agreeing with his analysis of the game on fox, hopefully i agree with what he does coaching wise
plague
27-05-2015, 01:06 PM
If Rudan wasn't on the telly then what's his ****ing achievements?
Coached a state league team?
Tops.
Stubbins 2.0
Good luck with that bloke.
If Rudan wasn't on the telly then what's his ****ing achievements?
Smokes Bungers
Hopefully see him revive the old skool tradition of managers sucking down 100 ciggies a game whilst leaning on the side of these new found benches so everytime the cameras pan to him it is looks like someone just ripped pyro
Gee I miss the old skool Italian games when even the players on the bench were having bungers
q-money
27-05-2015, 01:32 PM
paul okon is trash fam
Nou Camp
27-05-2015, 01:41 PM
If Rudan wasn't on the telly then what's his ****ing achievements?
Coached a state league team?
Tops.
Stubbins 2.0
Good luck with that bloke.
what are the actual achievements of anyone we are being linked with?
not just coaching roles (ie coached a team in Thailand)
Rudan has struggled with Utd.
Aurelio Vidmar in the mix?
plague
27-05-2015, 01:58 PM
what are the actual achievements of anyone we are being linked with?
not just coaching roles (ie coached a team in Thailand)
Exactly my point tho.
Blokes carrying on like we're signing Klopp.
Rudan is just as big a pile of turd as the rest.
Hopefully they cast the net a bit wider than the bloke on the telly.
Jeterpool
27-05-2015, 02:00 PM
Rudan has struggled with Utd.
Aurelio Vidmar in the mix?
He ruled himself out yesterday.
He ruled himself out yesterday.
I don't think any of those candidates are up to it.
Another season of mediocrity beckons.
stopper2
27-05-2015, 02:50 PM
I don't think any of those candidates are up to it.
Another season of mediocrity beckons.
Exactly
Quote: "I don't 'think' any of those candidates are up to it" .....You are just making a pre-conception based on what you "think".
How about we all just lay off, chill out, let the new coach come in, give him time to settle into the role and maybe 10 games into the new season start making judgements on what we "think" based on actual!!!
Exactly
Quote: "I don't 'think' any of those candidates are up to it" .....You are just making a pre-conception based on what you "think".
How about we all just lay off, chill out, let the new coach come in, give him time to settle into the role and maybe 10 games into the new season start making judgements on what we "think" based on actual!!!
nah I'd rather have an opinion now
cobra23
27-05-2015, 03:02 PM
Exactly my point tho.
Blokes carrying on like we're signing Klopp.
Rudan is just as big a pile of turd as the rest.
Hopefully they cast the net a bit wider than the bloke on the telly.
Settle Down mate,
We can only pick from whats on the poll.
Settle Down mate,
We can only pick from whats on the poll.
Which is why Slobs is the obvious (and best) option.. :blush:
plague
27-05-2015, 04:00 PM
Settle Down mate,
We can only pick from whats on the poll.
Which is why anyone who doesn't vote for Slobs is a bum.
leftrightout
27-05-2015, 04:36 PM
Hopefully they cast the net a bit wider than the bloke on the telly.
But look at Ange, he is now the national team coach and national hero!
:popcorn:
plague
27-05-2015, 06:23 PM
But look at Ange, he is now the national team coach and national hero!
:popcorn:
wot?
Grimario
31-05-2015, 06:17 PM
Val Migliaccio @Val61
Confirmed: Damian Mori was interviewed for the vacant @NewcastleJetsFC position.
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Tommyjet
31-05-2015, 07:04 PM
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As much as I liked mori as a player and am sure he'd make a decent coach, I don't think many fans would be happy with another unproven coach with ties to Adelaide.
As much as I liked mori as a player and am sure he'd make a decent coach, I don't think many fans would be happy with another unproven coach with ties to Adelaide.
Bloke has been coaching Adelaide City in Sth Australia for a fair few years now.
They even turfed WSW out if the FFA Cup
stopper2
31-05-2015, 08:48 PM
As much as I liked mori as a player and am sure he'd make a decent coach, I don't think many fans would be happy with another unproven coach with ties to Adelaide.
Proven or unproven, really nothing is guaranteed. Of the "proven" coaches out there, who is actually available anyway? This is the reality of the situation and fans have to be reasonable and get their heads around this fact. There is no experienced coach available out there at the present time with a proven record of success.
We just need to hope that FFA with the aid of Ange's expertise have done their due diligence in picking a coach who is up to the challenge of rejuvenating this club and basically setting up the right structure and platform in place that will set it up for the future.
Whoever the new coach is, we all have to as supporters be fair and open minded and not make any pre-conceived judgements on their ability. That would be counter-productive to what the club is trying to achieve at this point in time after the turmoil of the past 6 months.
The old term of giving someone a "fair-go" applies to whoever the new Jets coach will be whether it is Rudan, or Papas, or Okon or Mori or whoever, I will be giving them 100% support in getting this club back on track.
militiamon
31-05-2015, 09:15 PM
stopper is right.
There are lots of great coaches going around at the moment who would have been seen as "unproven" or inexperienced when they were first appointed (Muscat, Popovic). On the other hand, if they are proven then they will usually have been sacked from somewhere at some point (Arnold, Ange). This is all just part of the nature of appointing a coach, there's usually a lot of guesswork involved.
I will even say that appointing Stubbins last season was a good decision (albeit an uninspired one compared to say Gombau at Adelaide).
Where we went wrong was not giving him the boot faster when it turned out he was barely fit to coach an All Age team.
Tommyjet
31-05-2015, 09:56 PM
Bloke has been coaching Adelaide City in Sth Australia for a fair few years now.
They even turfed WSW out if the FFA Cup
I know all about his coaching prowess and I'm not saying I wouldn't be happy with him as head coach, just stating that the average joe jets fan would gets a sense of deja vu with stubbins
BodyNovo
31-05-2015, 09:59 PM
I know all about his coaching prowess and I'm not saying I wouldn't be happy with him as head coach, just stating that the average joe jets fan would gets a sense of deja vu with stubbins
unless they turf some bloke out of europe or asia with a decent record, any coach signing is going to have deja vu with it unfortunately
thats why they have got to get it right, the FFA can't afford to pick a stubbins.
it wouldn't bother me if they took another 2 weeks to pick the coach as long as they get it right.
Tommyjet
31-05-2015, 10:05 PM
Proven or unproven, really nothing is guaranteed. Of the "proven" coaches out there, who is actually available anyway? This is the reality of the situation and fans have to be reasonable and get their heads around this fact. There is no experienced coach available out there at the present time with a proven record of success.
We just need to hope that FFA with the aid of Ange's expertise have done their due diligence in picking a coach who is up to the challenge of rejuvenating this club and basically setting up the right structure and platform in place that will set it up for the future.
Whoever the new coach is, we all have to as supporters be fair and open minded and not make any pre-conceived judgements on their ability. That would be counter-productive to what the club is trying to achieve at this point in time after the turmoil of the past 6 months.
The old term of giving someone a "fair-go" applies to whoever the new Jets coach will be whether it is Rudan, or Papas, or Okon or Mori or whoever, I will be giving them 100% support in getting this club back on track.
I'm as open minded and optimistic as they come and I believe the due dilligence is being pretty thorough. If the FFA were after a quick fix they would of appointed Zane or jones etc last week. All the prospective candidates are reasonably similar in terms of experience. I hope they are interviewing all the 'unproven' ones and the choose the one most 'champing at the bit' for the position.
plague
01-06-2015, 12:23 AM
Serious though why aren't we just asking Gombeau if any of his Spanish mates like to surf?
Rudan reportedly had one of the biggest budgets in the NSWPL but is currently running 9th and copped a flogging on the weekend.
How many times someone appears on Fox should not be a determining factor in the appointment, nor should it be based upon how well they speak on the Tele.
Mori has done well in SA, but again he is with a big fish in a small pond.
We're basically starting from scratch so someone like Miron Bleiberg wouldn't be a bad option, as he has set up clubs from scratch in the past and is possibly on shakey ground at Oakleigh in the VPL.
Could have sworn Miron quit recently and it had nothing to do with the club he was at but more so his family were in QLd and he wasn't
q-money
01-06-2015, 05:59 PM
Rudan reportedly had one of the biggest budgets in the NSWPL but is currently running 9th and copped a flogging on the weekend.
copped a floggin' yes - but aren't they running 4th?
http://i.imgur.com/UKyGVhY.png
croatia fans are pretty happy with him as well i thought?
Jetmaster
01-06-2015, 06:05 PM
1096
Available....do it...
Tommyjet
01-06-2015, 06:08 PM
Wonder if the poll was re-done, how different it would be today.
anyone read his answers? lulz
Position: Hard bastard
Hates: foreign nancy boy poofters playing in our league
1096
Available....do it...
parksey
01-06-2015, 07:13 PM
'mon blacktown
Rudan reportedly had one of the biggest budgets in the NSWPL but is currently running 9th and copped a flogging on the weekend.
How many times someone appears on Fox should not be a determining factor in the appointment, nor should it be based upon how well they speak on the Tele.
Mori has done well in SA, but again he is with a big fish in a small pond.
We're basically starting from scratch so someone like Miron Bleiberg wouldn't be a bad option, as he has set up clubs from scratch in the past and is possibly on shakey ground at Oakleigh in the VPL.
So there are 3 other coaches who are better in NSW prem. Yeah, get rudan, ffs
Mori would poison his opponents for a win, maybe
Rudan reportedly had one of the biggest budgets in the NSWPL but is currently running 9th and copped a flogging on the weekend.
How many times someone appears on Fox should not be a determining factor in the appointment, nor should it be based upon how well they speak on the Tele.
Mori has done well in SA, but again he is with a big fish in a small pond.
We're basically starting from scratch so someone like Miron Bleiberg wouldn't be a bad option, as he has set up clubs from scratch in the past and is possibly on shakey ground at Oakleigh in the VPL.
So there are 3 other coaches who are better in NSW prem. Yeah, get rudan, ffs
Mori would poison his opponents for a win, maybe
stopper2
01-06-2015, 09:15 PM
Wonder if the poll was re-done, how different it would be today.
Well I originally voted for Milicic but it looks very unlikely that he will leave his assistant Socceroo position under Ange at this stage.
I think time is of the essence now and hopefully a decision is made by the end of this week. Then we can get onto the next important stage of signing new players.
the awesome part about the stubbins/tinkler saga is that there is absolutely **** all expectation from the general community. you can't do worse than what we did last season. a less extreme example of this lack of expectation is the fergie/moyes/van gaal transition. moyes wasn't that shit of a manager but because he was coming after literally the best of all time he got crucified. LVG comes in with the fans thinking 'pls top 4 will do' and he's sorted, people love him. this lack of expectation means there's a pretty good chance for the club to take a slight gamble on an 'unproven' because there's no way you're doing as worse as phil '7-0' stubbins.
Head coaches
Ian Crook (2001–04)
Richard Money (1 January 2005 – 31 December 2005)
Nick Theodorakopoulos (2006)
Gary van Egmond (2006–09)
Branko Čulina (1 January 2009 – 4 October 2011)
Craig Deans (interim) (3 October 2011 – 20 October 2011)
Gary van Egmond (20 October 2011 – 20 January 2014)
Clayton Zane (interim) (20 January 2014 – 5 May 2014)
Phil Stubbins (5 May 2014 - 26 May 2015)
Shouldnt be hard for the next coach to improve on this lot. Stabbins was here for a 13 months, felt like 3yrs.
plague
02-06-2015, 12:22 PM
The wireless just said decision by end of the week.
Rudan hot fav.
Nou Camp
02-06-2015, 01:22 PM
experienced a league and NSL coach Branko Culina got sacked from the rockdale suns a few weeks ago for not winning a game and they have gone a good record since he was sacked
Jeterpool
05-06-2015, 09:34 AM
Fabio Cannavaro parted ways with Guangzhou Evergrande
joel31
05-06-2015, 11:56 AM
Fabio Cannavaro parted ways with Guangzhou Evergrande
Get him Gallop
Grimario
05-06-2015, 12:34 PM
Get him Gallop
Isn't Gallop currently in NY meeting with owners of NYRB? Newcastle Red Bulljets, coming soon.
joel31
05-06-2015, 12:47 PM
Isn't Gallop currently in NY meeting with owners of NYRB? Newcastle Red Bulljets, coming soon.
source
WolfMan
05-06-2015, 12:48 PM
He's at MLS HQ in NY (enough acronyms?)
Source is a selfie he posted.
plague
07-06-2015, 02:01 PM
What about the bloke the Roar just rissoled?
Didn't he go reluctantly and actually want to stay in Oz and coach?
Seems as qualified (if not more) than some of the Pelicans we're talking to.
Mark325
07-06-2015, 02:35 PM
What about the bloke the Roar just rissoled?
Didn't he go reluctantly and actually want to stay in Oz and coach?
Seems as qualified (if not more) than some of the Pelicans we're talking to.
Does anyone know what Frans record was at Brisbane? Seemed like a quality coach, especially in comparison to rudan
Grimario
08-06-2015, 09:25 PM
Gatty is saying Mori is the new Jets coach.
Retro Jet
08-06-2015, 09:39 PM
Gatty is saying Mori is the new Jets coach.
Damian 'who ate all the pies' Mori. Did he ever get that wedding ring off his finger?
copped a floggin' yes - but aren't they running 4th?
http://i.imgur.com/UKyGVhY.png
croatia fans are pretty happy with him as well i thought?
OMFG...just realised I've been to 11 of those 12 clubs home grounds following various incarnations
(and abominations) of National and State league competitions.
The good times are here and NOW lads and lassies. Enjoy them!
lquiquer
09-06-2015, 07:06 AM
Gatty is saying Mori is the new Jets coach.
God help us
Tommyjet
09-06-2015, 08:57 AM
God help us
Not saying your wrong but why? What don't know about mori? Me I know very little about his coaching prowess
God help us
Just been in touch with God.
We have too many atheist fans.:rof:
Message back is we are on our own :brrr:
Tommyjet
09-06-2015, 09:40 AM
Just been in touch with God.
We have too many atheist fans.:rof:
Message back is we are on our own :brrr:
Good
Grimario
09-06-2015, 09:47 AM
God help us
The same guy that told me Nubbins would be a massive failure and would lose the dressing room has said Mori will be a huge success or huge failure no middle ground. He doesn't suffer fools and has an enormous ego.
Thomas477
09-06-2015, 10:22 AM
He doesn't suffer fools and has an enormous ego.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing though. Look at some of the most successful managers in the world over the past 10 years, SAF, Mourinho, Pep, Klupp etc, they have strong wills and impose themselves on the club. If Mori can get the respect of the players and then impose himself on the club, it will be a good thing. It will also mean that those who aren't putting in the effort, both on field and off field staff, will be out on their arse ASAP.
Tommyjet
09-06-2015, 10:22 AM
The same guy that told me Nubbins would be a massive failure and would lose the dressing room has said Mori will be a huge success or huge failure no middle ground. He doesn't suffer fools and has an enormous ego.
Someone told me he is a bit like Arnold in a way. Comes across as arrogant to media and other fans but as long as u are putting in for the team and not mouthing back at him then he'll have your back.
Some Adelaide fans on 442 forum have said he cherry picked the best young talent from the competition but hasn't done that well last couple of seasons.
Wilso8948
09-06-2015, 10:54 AM
To be honest if all the ownership and off field stuff is sorted then I think anyone who comes in will be able to improve on where we have been. Even if they are putting in a half assed go. Need to fix from the top and the rest will eventually follow
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing though. Look at some of the most successful managers in the world over the past 10 years, SAF, Mourinho, Pep, Klupp etc, they have strong wills and impose themselves on the club. If Mori can get the respect of the players and then impose himself on the club, it will be a good thing. It will also mean that those who aren't putting in the effort, both on field and off field staff, will be out on their arse ASAP.
Having a strong will arrogance and desire to impose yourself are fine if you have the respect of your players and the ability to back it up.
Being an arrogant fool who your players don't respect and are unable to back it up on the park hasn't worked out for our last two managers.
Other thing that does shit me is all these clowns who seem to think just cause Ange ripped the guts out of the Roar and rebuilt and had great success that they are capable of doing it or better yet justified to do it. Yes it worked for Ange and he has got great rewards and adulation for doing so.
Reality is it doesn't work all the time and the consequences for failure are pretty extreme.
plague
09-06-2015, 11:23 AM
Yep. y'all wanna be rebuilding with Broich and Berisha, not Gibbs and Galloway.
Couscous
09-06-2015, 12:56 PM
The same guy that told me Nubbins would be a massive failure and would lose the dressing room has said Mori will be a huge success or huge failure no middle ground. He doesn't suffer fools and has an enormous ego.
Sounds like a title-winning coach, given the GVE precedent.
Jeterpool
09-06-2015, 01:07 PM
Having a strong will arrogance and desire to impose yourself are fine if you have the respect of your players and the ability to back it up.
Being an arrogant fool who your players don't respect and are unable to back it up on the park hasn't worked out for our last two managers.
Other thing that does shit me is all these clowns who seem to think just cause Ange ripped the guts out of the Roar and rebuilt and had great success that they are capable of doing it or better yet justified to do it. Yes it worked for Ange and he has got great rewards and adulation for doing so.
Reality is it doesn't work all the time and the consequences for failure are pretty extreme.
Ange didn't rip the guts out of Victory, did he? Horses for courses I guess.
lil_masi
11-06-2015, 12:41 PM
Pascoe is back as acting football operations manager. 6wks apparently. Not happy!!
BodyNovo
11-06-2015, 12:43 PM
i'm not to stressed, if they intend to get the right bloke in charge
but i am a little worried that the new bloke will have the its not my squad excuse.
wish they had gone for jones instead of pascoe though
q-money
11-06-2015, 12:47 PM
the cancer remains
Jeterpool
11-06-2015, 01:06 PM
Pascoe is back as acting football operations manager. 6wks apparently. Not happy!!
That's a backroom staff role I think. that's the role De Luca left to return to Melbourne.
stopper2
11-06-2015, 01:12 PM
Pascoe is back as acting football operations manager. 6wks apparently. Not happy!!
So wrong that Pascoe can still have any involvement with the club, even if it is in an "acting" role.
When his colleagues, Zane, Packer and Young were shafted he without seemingly a second thought stepped in to be Muppet's right hand man because he saw it as an opportunity to further his career, not because it was the best thing to do for the club.
anfield
11-06-2015, 01:18 PM
I would still go for mark jones, Clayton Zane or Mark Crittenden from Blacktown city.
No rudan or Mori, havnt got the runs on the board at NPL Level.
Liverpools former assistants Colin Pascoe or Mike Marsh would be more then capable if interested.
mother theresa
11-06-2015, 04:33 PM
the cancer remains
300% correct q-money- as soon as we think the tables have turned for the good with all booted and FFA stepping in, this happens.
Maybe Stubbins as Techincal Director,
Now i am convinced nothing will change, maybe threason why Pepper and Neville rejected offer!
300% correct q-money- as soon as we think the tables have turned for the good with all booted and FFA stepping in, this happens.
Maybe Stubbins as Techincal Director,
Now i am convinced nothing will change, maybe threason why Pepper and Neville rejected offer!
Bang on MT.
This is a ****ing joke
Bloke has achieved nothing in his time at the club and it seems his best talent is to constantly get himself into stronger positions.
Reminds me a lot of My2Flogs Best Mate
Grimario
11-06-2015, 08:12 PM
I would still go for mark jones, Clayton Zane or Mark Crittenden from Blacktown city.
No rudan or Mori, havnt got the runs on the board at NPL Level.
Liverpools former assistants Colin Pascoe or Mike Marsh would be more then capable if interested.
Mori has ten years in charge of Adelaide City, won the league FIVE times and the state cup competition a few times. Even beat WSW in the FFA cup. If that's not runs on the board then we might as well **** everyone else off and put Miron, Gaz or Kossie in charge.
stopper2
11-06-2015, 09:08 PM
Bang on MT.
This is a ****ing joke
Bloke has achieved nothing in his time at the club and it seems his best talent is to constantly get himself into stronger positions.
Reminds me a lot of My2Flogs Best Mate
Am I being paranoid but anyone else find it conicidental that Pascoe is announced as Acting Football Manager just a couple of days after the players renewed their contracts with FFA??? All irelevant now but I just wonder how many would have signed if the announcement was made last Thusday.
Anyway, I'm not 100% sure on this but Pascoe has been head of Hunter Sports football for what 5 years? Plus has been involved with the Jets Youth for 3 years or so.
How many players have gone through the Hunter Sports/Jets Youth system and on to become A League players for the Jets???
1/ Taylor Regan, but he attended HSH years ago I think well before Pascoe's time
2/ Radovan Pavicevic, he was "identified" in Sydney (like so many others) by Pascoe and came to HSH when he was already 17 I believe.....so hardly a product but has hardly proven himself as an A League player after just a handful of games.
Anyone else???
Now this is the bloke Murphy/FFA have entrusted with the role as Acting Football Manager for I believe the next 2-3 months......GOD HELP US!!!
stopper2
11-06-2015, 09:08 PM
Mori has ten years in charge of Adelaide City, won the league FIVE times and the state cup competition a few times. Even beat WSW in the FFA cup. If that's not runs on the board then we might as well **** everyone else off and put Miron, Gaz or Kossie in charge.
Well said Grimario!
Mori has ten years in charge of Adelaide City, won the league FIVE times and the state cup competition a few times. Even beat WSW in the FFA cup. If that's not runs on the board then we might as well **** everyone else off and put Miron, Gaz or Kossie in charge.
You really should be committed for suggesting we give GVE the job
Worst post ever that
OmeletteDuFromage
11-06-2015, 09:38 PM
honestly reckon gaz with a proper board and staff would be brilliant
Grimario
11-06-2015, 09:38 PM
You really should be committed for suggesting we give GVE the job
Worst post ever that
That's entirely the point of the post.
Some bloke trying to say we shouldn't give a promising up and coming coach a go because he ONLY has ten years state league experience. Popa had zero first team managerial experience, only assistant before WSW. The bloke that just won the league had **** all experience as well.
I don't give a **** who we go for as long at its not Gaz or Stubbins. Or Kossie.
furns
11-06-2015, 09:52 PM
Miron Miron Miron
seldom
11-06-2015, 10:00 PM
Still trying to work out how Stubbins has 2 votes on the poll. One from himself sure, but I have it on good authority his Mrs went Slobs.
Jeterpool
11-06-2015, 10:30 PM
Still trying to work out how Stubbins has 2 votes on the poll. One from himself sure, but I have it on good authority his Mrs went Slobs.
It's his 1 fan
That's entirely the point of the post.
Some bloke trying to say we shouldn't give a promising up and coming coach a go because he ONLY has ten years state league experience. Popa had zero first team managerial experience, only assistant before WSW. The bloke that just won the league had **** all experience as well.
I don't give a **** who we go for as long at its not Gaz or Stubbins. Or Kossie.
Yeah Yeah you put your colours on the mast with your GVE post.
Not the dumbest thing to ever appear on the foz but still a clanger
No time for back tracking now :tongue:
plague
13-06-2015, 09:53 AM
Scott Miller who?
Dun nuffin.
Too Anglo for Craig Fosters liking.
Disgrace.
stopper2
14-06-2015, 11:27 AM
The big problem as to why we haven't got a coach yet is because of FFA.
Rudan would have been here by now if he had a guarantee in the contract of when new ownership takes over that either:
a) he would still have a job
b) he would be payed out if the new ownership wanted to replace him
Not many people in any job situation would sign a contract as the FFA has stipulated for the Jets coaching position....and would you blame them?
Mori as a candidate seems to have gone quiet the last few days and I wouldn't be surprised that he has the same concerns as Rudan.
FFA really need to sort this contract shit out otherwise it could all get very embarrasing when training resumes next week and there is still no Head coach.
anfield
14-06-2015, 12:53 PM
Mori has ten years in charge of Adelaide City, won the league FIVE times and the state cup competition a few times. Even beat WSW in the FFA cup. If that's not runs on the board then we might as well **** everyone else off and put Miron, Gaz or Kossie in charge.
Im sorry Grimario, I dont really agree with your view. Runs on the board , means runs on the board. Mori/adelaide city have NO CURRENT runs on the board. What have they done lately other then beating WSW in the FFA cup? Another game in FFA cup perhaps.
At the end of the day statistics show Mori/adelaide city hasnt won a major or minor premiership since 2009. That year they finished the regular season in 5th. Its not since 2008 have mori/adelaide city won a minor premiership. That year they won the major as well.
But of late not much. This year they are coming 7th and last year they came 6th. Hardly great statistics for a candiate for an A league gig. City are one of the big 2-3 teams in SA NPL , they would have the resources to finish near the top of the table each year, like olympic and magic do in NNSW NPL.
At the end of the day, going back to 2008 for his last Minor prem and 2009 for his last title isnt great reading. 2008 was the year the jets won the comp, we know what has happened to them since then. Runs on the board means runs on the board. When was the last time the Australian Test cricket team picked a player with not many current runs on the board?????
Might be worth checking your facts first Grimario?????
Wilso8948
14-06-2015, 01:46 PM
Anfield to replace Watson at 3
Grimario
14-06-2015, 08:01 PM
Im sorry Grimario, I dont really agree with your view. Runs on the board , means runs on the board. Mori/adelaide city have NO CURRENT runs on the board. What have they done lately other then beating WSW in the FFA cup? Another game in FFA cup perhaps.
At the end of the day statistics show Mori/adelaide city hasnt won a major or minor premiership since 2009. That year they finished the regular season in 5th. Its not since 2008 have mori/adelaide city won a minor premiership. That year they won the major as well.
But of late not much. This year they are coming 7th and last year they came 6th. Hardly great statistics for a candiate for an A league gig. City are one of the big 2-3 teams in SA NPL , they would have the resources to finish near the top of the table each year, like olympic and magic do in NNSW NPL.
At the end of the day, going back to 2008 for his last Minor prem and 2009 for his last title isnt great reading. 2008 was the year the jets won the comp, we know what has happened to them since then. Runs on the board means runs on the board. When was the last time the Australian Test cricket team picked a player with not many current runs on the board?????
Might be worth checking your facts first Grimario?????
Where did anyone mention current runs on the board until you in this post?
By all means, let's get some assistant coach no one except the deluded Liverpool faithful have heard from a club that has won **** all in decades.
Much better option.
anfield
14-06-2015, 08:09 PM
Where did anyone mention current runs on the board until you in this post?
By all means, let's get some assistant coach no one except the deluded Liverpool faithful have heard from a club that has won **** all in decades.
Much better option.
I love your comedy. If the herald is right then thats the way jets are looking with miller. EPL experience far outweighs HAL or NPL.
anfield
14-06-2015, 08:11 PM
Anfield to replace Watson at 3
Have been known to go ok with the willow. No 3 for aussies, no way. Not watson anymore, but a bloke called steve smith. Some player.
Wilso8948
14-06-2015, 08:49 PM
Have been known to go ok with the willow. No 3 for aussies, no way. Not watson anymore, but a bloke called steve smith. Some player.
But they're still pickin watto with no current runs on the board..
Where did anyone mention current runs on the board until you in this post?
By all means, let's get some assistant coach no one except the deluded Liverpool faithful have heard from a club that has won **** all in decades.
Much better option.
who's deluded ya muppet. not me :p
Jeterpool
14-06-2015, 09:16 PM
Where did anyone mention current runs on the board until you in this post?
By all means, let's get some assistant coach no one except the deluded Liverpool faithful have heard from a club that has won **** all in decades.
Much better option.
Oi. I don't bag disc golf....often
The Camel
15-06-2015, 04:24 PM
Thinking about the new coaching role, I think Miller may be the best candidate for us. Based on the assumption the FFA are not going to install an experienced overseas coach, and instead of recycling a Kozzie or Frank they will offer the role to a young up and comer. The club has been run unprofessionally compared to others in the league for quite a while, the new coach has a massive job on their hands, not only with player recruitment and coaching but rebuilding the coaching set up, training methods, backroom staff etc. Someone like Rudan or Mori coming from a semi professional background, whilst perhaps maybe being good at working with the players day to day, might not have the know how and experience to know what is needed to rebuild the club, whereas Miller coming from a far more professional environment in the UK will have experience and knowledge of what gaps exist at the jets and what needs to be implemented so at least the set up can be akin to a professional environment. Coupled with his tertiary studies in sports science etc, he may be the man to lay a platform for a more professional set up that future coaches of the club can then utilise.
stopper2
15-06-2015, 04:49 PM
Thinking about the new coaching role, I think Miller may be the best candidate for us. Based on the assumption the FFA are not going to install an experienced overseas coach, and instead of recycling a Kozzie or Frank they will offer the role to a young up and comer. The club has been run unprofessionally compared to others in the league for quite a while, the new coach has a massive job on their hands, not only with player recruitment and coaching but rebuilding the coaching set up, training methods, backroom staff etc. Someone like Rudan or Mori coming from a semi professional background, whilst perhaps maybe being good at working with the players day to day, might not have the know how and experience to know what is needed to rebuild the club, whereas Miller coming from a far more professional environment in the UK will have experience and knowledge of what gaps exist at the jets and what needs to be implemented so at least the set up can be akin to a professional environment. Coupled with his tertiary studies in sports science etc, he may be the man to lay a platform for a more professional set up that future coaches of the club can then utilise.
I agree, nothing is guaranteed but there is no argument that Miller has been exposed to a higher level of professionalism than both Mori and Rudan...and it has not just been 2-3 years. You would think being involved with Fulham for over 6 years would have put him in good stad as to what is required at this level, both in footballing terms and the whole structure and operations of the football club as a whole.
The sticking point is will he accept the contract put forth by FFA, that both Rudan and Mori have seemingly rejected?
Seriously if we don't get Miller, time is running out and who is left? Might as well just offer it to Jones, whom I have no doubts will do a good job anyway.
joel31
15-06-2015, 07:44 PM
I agree, nothing is guaranteed but there is no argument that Miller has been exposed to a higher level of professionalism than both Mori and Rudan...and it has not just been 2-3 years. You would think being involved with Fulham for over 6 years would have put him in good stad as to what is required at this level, both in footballing terms and the whole structure and operations of the football club as a whole.
The sticking point is will he accept the contract put forth by FFA, that both Rudan and Mori have seemingly rejected?
Seriously if we don't get Miller, time is running out and who is left? Might as well just offer it to Jones, whom I have no doubts will do a good job anyway.
Why do you get the impression that both Rudan and Mori rejected offers?
I think we have exhausted the search. Time to choose a bastard so recruitment can begin. carn
The Postman
16-06-2015, 12:47 AM
Why do you get the impression that both Rudan and Mori rejected offers?
Rumour was that part of the deal included a 'All Newcastle' support staff and no guarantee if/when a new owner comes in.
Can see why Rudan and possibly Mori baulked at coming.
anfield
16-06-2015, 10:40 AM
Lets just sign miller and get on with it.
Mark325
16-06-2015, 10:56 AM
Lets just sign miller and get on with it.
That's it, Miller is clearly the most qualified and we've gotta start getting a squad together.
BodyNovo
16-06-2015, 12:06 PM
lets just sign papas and be done with it
belchardo
16-06-2015, 12:33 PM
i reckon they'll announce the new coach at the community forum.
Jeterpool
16-06-2015, 12:43 PM
i reckon they'll announce the new coach at the community forum.
I think it might happen Thursday night! It's an interesting theory though.
i reckon they'll announce the new coach at the community forum.
I have heard from a good sauce the coach announcement will be tomorrow
Tommyjet
16-06-2015, 04:56 PM
I have heard from a good sauce the coach announcement will be tomorrow
The suspense is killing me
The suspense is killing me
I have know idea who so don't press me on it.
Info came from a highly reliable sauce who has solid connections to the club.
lil_masi
16-06-2015, 05:14 PM
http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/sport/dundee-united/dundee-united-chairman-s-deal-for-aussie-club-newcastle-jets-close-1.884190
Story dated 16/06/2015
Details of Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson’s involvement in plans to save a beleaguered Australian club could become clearer later this week.
For months now, Thompson has been linked with a rescue mission to resurrect the Hyundai A League outfit Newcastle Jets.
They are being run by Aussie football authorities after their owner, mining magnate Nathan Tinkler, was stripped of his football licence last month because of unpaid debts.
Since then, Thompson is understood to have been in detailed discussion to help get the Jets back on their feet.
While that’s been happening, Football Federation Australia have been ploughing ahead with work to make sure there is a team in place for next season.
They’ve appointed a head coach and re-signed most of last year’s squad.
But they need help with the running of the club in the long term and view Thompson’s experience with United as an important part of that. What they don’t appear to be looking for is a new outright owner.
They’ve been carrying out a series of meetings with the football community in Newcastle in a bid to get them involved in what would effectively be a reborn club.
On Wednesday, they plan to hold a final community forum to seek the views of the various interested parties.
It’s in the days after that details of the new structure could be announced.
Confidentially agreements mean Thompson cannot comment but he has repeatedly stressed United will remain his No 1 priority.
To that end, he has been in close contact with manager Jackie McNamara, despite him being on a break last week, in a bid to get done as much of the Tangerines’ transfer business as possible in time for the players reporting back for pre-season training early next month.
United are in the market for a goalkeeper, a centre-half and, with the news Calum Butcher is on the verge of returning south, a midfielder.
Ideally, gaffer Jackie McNamara would like his new faces in by the time United head to the Netherlands on July 9 for a week-long stay and games against Vitesse Arnhem the following day and FC Utrecht on July 16.
joel31
16-06-2015, 07:45 PM
http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/sport/dundee-united/dundee-united-chairman-s-deal-for-aussie-club-newcastle-jets-close-1.884190
Story dated 16/06/2015
They’ve appointed a head coach and re-signed most of last year’s squad.
Have we?
WolfMan
16-06-2015, 07:48 PM
Have we?
I think that's in reference to the appointment of Pascoe as interim Football Operations Manager or some such
Tommyjet
16-06-2015, 10:59 PM
Kossie saying miller and I've heard elsewhere miller with jean Paul de marigny assistant.
Jeterpool
17-06-2015, 08:28 AM
Kossie saying miller and I've heard elsewhere miller with jean Paul de marigny assistant.
Sounds like an interesting team.
The Camel
17-06-2015, 10:36 AM
Kossie saying miller and I've heard elsewhere miller with jean Paul de marigny assistant.
I would be happy with that
joel31
17-06-2015, 10:40 AM
I would be happy with that
same
leftrightout
17-06-2015, 07:53 PM
Just said on NBN news that the FFA are due to make a major announcement about the jets tomorrow. They suggested that it will be the coaching announcement.
Just said on NBN news that the FFA are due to make a major announcement about the jets tomorrow. They suggested that it will be the coaching announcement.
**** the coaching announcement.
I am hoping they have made a player signing.
Hope to hear the words "Newcastle Jets are pleased to welcome Joel Griffiths back to Newy"
Anything other than that or an announcement to say they have sacked Pascoe then they can get ****ed.
Nothing more I need to hear than those two things
furns
17-06-2015, 08:18 PM
Ok I am going to say that pretty much means Miller has the job - given he was over in the middle east and that would give him time to get back and be present for the unveiling
Tommyjet
17-06-2015, 08:48 PM
You'd imagine that, if miller is installed and mark jones thrown in there somewhere, we'd have to have one of the fittest squads in the league come opening round. Just think back to the first half of last season where we got to 60 min in and it was complete physical capitulation.
stopper2
17-06-2015, 09:06 PM
You'd imagine that, if miller is installed and mark jones thrown in there somewhere, we'd have to have one of the fittest squads in the league come opening round. Just think back to the first half of last season where we got to 60 min in and it was complete physical capitulation.
Straight swap of Jones for Pascoe and It's Happy Days for everyone and I suppose Griff just to keep old Member happy!!!
Straight swap of Jones for Pascoe and It's Happy Days for everyone and I suppose Griff just to keep old Member happy!!!
Griff comes back and I won't be the only one happy.
Newy will rejoice.
Two goals at the moment.
Return Griff to his throne
Remove Pascoe
stopper2
17-06-2015, 09:44 PM
Griff comes back and I won't be the only one happy.
Newy will rejoice.
Two goals at the moment.
Return Griff to his throne
Remove Pascoe
I would love Griff to come back so that he can be a part of our resurgence as a club and to get the send-off he so rightly deserves but big question is how will his knee hold up after the operation?
Tommyjet
17-06-2015, 09:53 PM
I would love Griff to come back so that he can be a part of our resurgence as a club and to get the send-off he so rightly deserves but big question is how will his knee hold up after the operation?
That'll be up to new coach and medical team.
Griff's experience will be much needed if his legs are up to it. I love the man but we can't just have him back as a token gesture to some of the fans and so he gets his rightful send off.
In saying that, he'll more than likely recover ahead of schedule, offer to play for free, get fit as f$&k if his fav assistant coach jones is involved and then proceed to score the winner in all of our derby games next season.
I would love Griff to come back so that he can be a part of our resurgence as a club and to get the send-off he so rightly deserves but big question is how will his knee hold up after the operation?
NEVER right off a Champion
Wilso8948
17-06-2015, 10:51 PM
FB suggesting Miller
FORMER Fulham assistant Scott Miller will be announced as coach of the Newcastle Jets on Thursday.
The 33-year-old Australian and championship-winning Melbourne Victory assistant coach John-Paul de Marigny will be unveiled by Football Federation Australia at a noon press conference at Hunter Stadium.
De Marigny will be the senior assistant coach.
Both have signed two-year contracts.
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The Newcastle Herald understands that home-grown coaches Mark Jones and Clayton Zane are being considered for positions on the support staff.
Miller, at 33, will become the youngest head coach in the history of the A-League.
He has a UEFA Alicence as well as sports science and psychology degrees and was head coach of the under-21 side at Fulham, where former Jets golden boot Adam Taggart now plays.
Miller joined the Premier League and now Championship club in 2007 and was a member of Ange Postecoglou’s backroom staff at the Socceroos in 2013.
Postecoglou headed the FFA coaching panel in charge of appointing the new Jets coach.
Initially a strength and conditioning coach, Miller has filled a variety of roles at Craven Cottage and has worked under current England boss Roy Hodgson, Mark Hughes, Martin Jol, Rene Muelensteen and Felix Magath.
De Marigny, 51, returns for a second stint in Newcastle.
He coached the Jets for their inaugural game, a World Club Challenge qualifier against Central Coast, before assisting Englishman Richard Money in the maiden season of the A-League.
De Marigny joined Victory in 2013 as an assistant for Kevin Muscat’s first season in charge.
He spent two years in the Victorian capital and was instrumental in the Victory’s 2014-15 championship success.
The Jets have been without a coach since Phil Stubbins was let go after Football Federation Australia took over the club from Nathan Tinkler last month.
Fox Sports analyst Mark Rudan and former Socceroos striker Damian Mori had been linked to the position.
The Jets assemble for pre-season training on Monday and have 13 senior players on the roster.
Miller and De Marigny are expected to join Jets chief executive Mitchell Murphy and A-League boss Damien De Bohun at a members forum at Newcastle Panthers on Thursday night.
The forum follows a meeting of business leaders last week.
‘‘The No.1 emphasis of the forum is for us is to listen, not preach,’’ Murphy said.
‘‘We want to hear what they’ve got to say and answer the members’ questions.
‘‘We want to engage in conversation on a variety of topics that we expect to come up, and do a lot of listening.
‘‘At the end of the day this is a new beginning for the club and it’s a wonderful opportunity to set the right foundation.
‘‘The backbone of the club is the membership base.
‘‘It’s going to be an easier journey with them totally engaged and feeling like they’re an integral part of what our future plans are.’’
Jimmy Gardiner all over it now
JetRift
18-06-2015, 08:54 AM
Jimmy Gardiner all over it now
Finally! A young bloke who knows his stuff and has respect for the players. Pretty stoked on Jean-Paul as well. Hopefully Clacka gets a gig in the setup too.
Jeterpool
18-06-2015, 09:10 AM
It'll be a welcome back to JPDM, the coach of our first ever competitive match.
Tommyjet
18-06-2015, 09:17 AM
Like the sound of it all. Especially happy to see jp in there as a guiding influence
Frodo
18-06-2015, 09:39 AM
Only one thing on my mind...IT'S NOT STUBBINS!!!! I'm so happy right now.
furns
18-06-2015, 11:07 AM
So apparently we were all wrong.
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