15/16 HAL Round 03 | Newcastle Jets vs Melbourne Victory | Friday 23/10/15 ko 740pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 15/16 Round 3 Preview - Newcastle Jets v Melbourne Victory

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2015/2016 Hyundai A-League
Season 11 Round 3
Newcastle United Jets FC vs Melbourne Victory

When: Friday 23rd October, 2015
Where: Hunter Stadium, 294 Turton Road, New Lambton, NSW
Kickoff: 740pm AEDST (gates open 640pm)
Tickets: Ticketmaster Link (http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/newcastle-jets-v-melbourne-victory-newcastle-new-south-wales-23-10-2015/event/13004F30BF5C6E3B?artistid=10***46&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=11&tm_link=artist_msg-0_13004F30BF5C6E3B)

Watch: LIVE on Foxsports 4 and FoxSports 4HD
Listen: ABC Newcastle 1233 or ABC Grandstand online
Tweet: @newyboys #NTUA #NEWvMVC

Active support is located in Bay 60. Anyone wishing to enter Bay 60 needs to hold a Bay 60 membership or a valid ticket. If you are already a Jets Member go to Members Services at Western Stand to be issued a gameday Bay 60 ticket. For non-members you can purchase a Bay 60 ticket via ticketmaster or the dedicated Bay 60 ticket window at the Western Stand entrance.

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 30 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 13, Victory Wins - 10, Drawn - 7


In Newcastle – 14 matches.
Jets Wins - 7, Victory Wins - 2, Drawn - 5
In Melbourne - 16
Jets Wins - 6, Victory Wins - 8, Drawn - 2

Average Home A-League Crowd – 10664
Average Away A-League Crowd - 18348

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 43, Victory - 43
In Newcastle -
Jets – 26, Victory - 18

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 16, Victory - 12

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 57 (53 yellow, 4 red), Victory 47 (44 yellow, 3 red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets - LWL (3 points from last 6)
Victory - WWWDW (4 points from last 6)

Leading Scorers
Jets - David Carney, Milos Trifunovic (1)
Victory – Besart Berisha, Fahid Ben Khalfallah & Kosta Barbarouses (1)

Last Result -
Jets 1 (Montano 54') – Victory 0 at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 25, 10/04/2015.

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 10 Round 25

Newcastle JetsMelbourne Victory
Ben KennedyLawrence Thomas
Nick CowburnNicholas Ansell
Taylor ReganMark Milligan
Daniel MullenDaniel Georgievski
Ki-Je LeeMatthieu Delpierre
Enver AlivodicLeigh Broxham
Jacob PepperGuilherme Finkler
Allan WelshFahid Ben Khalfallah
Mitch CooperCarl Valeri
Edson MontanoBesart Berisha
Andrew HooleArchie Thompson



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Bridge 36’, Bridge 48’, Coveny 51’, J Griffiths 73’) – Victory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 21, Season 2006/07, 19/01/2007.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Victory 5 (Hernandez 41’, Thompson 50’, Allsopp 61’, Allsopp 64’, Brebner 90’), Round 3, Season 2008/09 at AAMI Park, 29/08/2008.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (5)
Victory - Archie Thompson (7)



2015/16 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubstitute AppearancesSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed - Second BookableStraight Red
1Mark Birighitti220116900000
2Daniel Mullen220018000000
3Jason Hoffman220018000000
4Nigel Boogaard11007700010
5Ben Kantarovski211011800200
6Cameron Watson220115200000
7Enver Alivodic220018000100
8Mateo Poljak220018000100
9Milos Trifunovic220117910000
10Leonardo Vitor Santiago220216000000
11Labinot Haliti21112400000
12Andy Brennan0000000000
13Ki-Je Lee11009001000
14Mitch Cooper20201200000
15Themba Muata-Marlow0000000000
16Lachlan Jackson0000000000
17Radovan Pavicevic0000000000
20Ben Kennedy10101100000
23David Carney220018011100
24Nick Cowburn0000000000
25Brandon Lundy10107500000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Scott Miller - 0 wins, Kevin Muscat - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (10 wins, 2 drawn and 4 losses = 63% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 wins, 2 drawn, 3 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)

Melbourne Victory Coach Record – Kevin Muscat 29% win ratio (2 wins, 3 drawn, 2 losses)




KEY FACTS:

General

The last Jets are 7 games, or more than 6 years, undefeated against Melbourne Victory in Newcastle. The last loss was 18/10/09.
Most goals in this fixture are scored in the second half, with 58% of the Jets, and 62% of the Victory's goals coming after half time.
The Jets have scored the first goal against the Victory 5 times in the last 6 meetings.
Newcastle have 4-3-2 Win-Draw-Loss record against the Victory on a Friday night.
Newcastle have won 3 and lost 7 of their last 10 Friday night games.



Players

The player to captain the Jets will be the 5th different captain to lead the club against the Victory in the last 5 games.
In the last match between these teams, Edson Montano scored the Jets 300th A-League goal
In Season 2009/10, Labinot Haliti scored in 3 consecutive matches against the Victory.



Coaches

With Kevin Muscat in charge, the 3 matches at Hunter Stadium have ended in draws (1-1, 2-2 and 2-2)
The team leading at helf time has only ever lost once in this fixture. While a draw at half time has only ever remained a draw twice.
The team scoring first has only ever lost 3 times in this fixture - Jets once and Victory twice.

[Jeterpool]

Mods - please fix title. Sorry

[furns]

Sorted

[plague]

Doomed.
Fold the club.
Not bothering to go.


All the best though lads.

[plague]

Although lifetime Jets have won 100% of their games vs Victory when Plague is watching interstate drunk at a casino (Heskeys goal fest a few years back).

Might be an omen.......

[Grimario]

First Jets game of the season, woooo.

[BodyNovo]

Friday night games at turton road are legit the best and we only have one of the ****ers

[Grimario]

Friday night games at turton road are legit the best and we only have one of the ****ers

I know. How excited do you think I am getting to go to the only one? Then all I get to see is away trips to Hindmarsh.

[MFKS]

I know. How excited do you think I am getting to go to the only one? Then all I get to see is away trips to Hindmarsh.

If only the rest of us were blessed with your fortune and only had to watch 3 times a season

You a very lucky man

[Superdylan]

Friday night games at turton road are legit the best and we only have one of the ****ers

Incorrect. We have Adelaide at home on a Friday night aswell. Agreed they are good but my preference is Saturday early games.

[hawk]

Friday night games at turton road are legit the best and we only have one of the ****ers
This

it is only 2 which is stubbins level disgrace

[MFKS]

This

it is only 2 which is stubbins level disgrace

We should be thankful we got two.


The FFA are trying to build interest in the comp and get more money for TV rights.



How the hell do you expect them to do that with putting the dross we serve up on TV??

As if Joe Public who has a little interest in the HAL is gonna be getting excited watching us play when every other team in the comp offers more in appeal???


Reality is no one wants to watch us.
Our football has been shit on the eye for 5-6 years now

[outsider]

Referee Strebre Delovski

[furns]

added match details to OP

[Imyourhero]

Looks like the puddle is shaping up to be Haliti's injury replacement.

[q-money]

welcome home sweet prince

[The Dunster]

Melbourne Victory look unbeatable. Therefore, I'm tipping the Jets.

[MFKS]

Jeterpool it has been awhile since we walked home from Stade de Newy with 3 points in the bag.

What exactly is our current run since we last won a home game.

Seems like forever since we won a ****ing game in Newy

[Jeterpool]

Jeterpool it has been awhile since we walked home from Stade de Newy with 3 points in the bag.

What exactly is our current run since we last won a home game.

Seems like forever since we won a ****ing game in Newy

Think it was Adelaide last year

[Blackmac79]

When was the last time we scored at home. Feels like ages since we even celebrated properly.

[Jeterpool]

When was the last time we scored at home. Feels like ages since we even celebrated properly.

3-4 v Sydney last year

[The Postman]

Bk
Hoff Kanta Boogs Mullen
Poljak Watson
Carney Leo Enver
Milos

Or Watson to LB and Kanta into CM, but with Kanta playing there last week I have a feeling he will be back there again.

[rhysd]

Jackson into LB and restore Mullen and boogs to cb

Kanta to come into the midfield with Watson at 3 on DM rotation

[Nou Camp]

BK
hoff boog mullen Watson
kanta poljak
leo enver carney
milos

or if they want Watson fresh to replace a mid

bk
cowburn boogg mullen Hoffman
poljak kanta
leo enver carney
milos

[380]

Jackson into LB and restore Mullen and boogs to cb

Kanta to come into the midfield with Watson at 3 on DM rotation


We would be better off if Watson did not make it to the stadium altogether, Is a donkey.

[The Dunster]

We would be better off if Watson did not make it to the stadium altogether, Is a donkey.

I'm nominating 380 to give the team a motivational speech before the game.

[380]

If i had that much clout around the place Watson would be back in a state league somewhere.

Couldn't keep up with me in race and i am pushing half a century, Couldn't disposess my 13 yr old daughter of the ball and she has never played the game and he can't complete a pass to save himself.

He is one of those breeds not unlike so many we have had in the past, One of those that should be paying us to play not the other way around.

Other than that piece of negative shite i actually think we can get the points tonight. Jets 2-1.

[belchardo]

think we'll get crunched. 3-0 to tards.

[Grimario]

I haven't been to a game in nearly two years... Knowing we're so shit, why am I nervous? Is this how I used to feel years ago when I didn't expect us to lose automatically?

[q-money]

rofl mate cheer up

[Grimario]

rofl mate cheer up

So you're suggesting I stay home? :p

[MFKS]

Had a first class **** of a day.

Good news is in a couple of hours time these blokes get to complete the abomination of a day.

FMD

[borat]

--------------------BK

Hoffman---Mullen-----Boogs-----Jackson

----Watson-------Poljak-----Kanta

Alivodic---------------------------Leonardo
------------------Trifanovic


Res
Tuxford
Muata-Marlow
Carney
Cooper
Pavecevic

[rhysd]

Carney on bench is a big yell

[MFKS]

Carney on bench is a big yell

Old man. Probably playing 2 games has killed him

[joel31]

yeah this milos bloke is useless

[belchardo]

Leonardo is improving each game. Milos' decision making is questionable. Not too sure about jackson, but will give him more time (until I deliver my completely irrelevant opinion).

Defence is just hanging on.

[weston]

Not a lot going forward

[weston]

I've seen people sent off for less than that

[belchardo]

Flipping heck. Milos could have 3 by now!

[belchardo]

Jackson did alright in the end.

[belchardo]

Nìiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[belchardo]

Now don't ****ing concede!

[Thomas477]

I don't reckon Carney meant to slice it that much, but you need that type of luck to score.

[Thomas477]

Also, what's this shit about Carney's Crew?

[belchardo]

Fookin yeah!

[joel31]

That was great

[weston]

3 points... Wooohoooo

[boz-monaut]

looks like I picked the wrong week to not get back to Newcastle in time

[plague]

Although lifetime Jets have won 100% of their games vs Victory when Plague is watching interstate drunk at a casino (Heskeys goal fest a few years back).

Might be an omen.......

Greetings from Jupiters casino on the Gold Coast Boiz.

Enjoy the win.

[joel31]

BK was good

[belchardo]

Greetings from Jupiters casino on the Gold Coast Boiz.

Enjoy the win.

You should take more for the team.

[Grimario]

100% record at games I've gone to since moving to Adelaide.

****ing woooooooooo

[plague]

You should take more for the team.

Noted.

[borat]

I don't reckon Carney meant to slice it that much, but you need that type of luck to score.

Seriously? He absolutely meant to hit it exactly like that

[baldrick]

Fvck yeah !

[Jeterpool]

I haven't been to a game in nearly two years... Knowing we're so shit, why am I nervous? Is this how I used to feel years ago when I didn't expect us to lose automatically?

Can you come every week?


Old man. Probably playing 2 games has killed him

:rof:


100% record at games I've gone to since moving to Adelaide.

****ing woooooooooo

Again, please come every week. ha ha. And go to the away Adelaide games too.

So much to like about that game. We rode our luck at times and the first half could have been 3-3 by the time they went to the sheds.

Victory offered a little bit less in the second half but we dug in. There is a real spirit about this team and that was a much better performance than last week.

They all did really well and they looked like they really gave a s***.

Well done squadron. Not heard you that loud in AGES and the crowd too. We were all really into the match and behind the team. Best atmosphere for a very long time.

[parksey]

Jackson did alright in the end.

he was honking

[belchardo]

he was honking

Yet did enough when it mattered.

[snake]

was that no. 22?

[ForeverRed]

5 all would have been a fair result, what about berisha walking off without shaking hands, what a flog

[Liam26]

I wouldn't write Milos off yet. Yeah he missed plenty of sitters but isn't it a positive he had plenty of sitters? He ran and worked all night. On another day he might have scored 3 of them.

[q-money]

i am livid with milos, but when was the last time we had a big unit like the rainmaker get into spots like him? go on big milos ya ledge

still fuming at him, however, as he would have won me a shit ton of cash if he put any of his first half goals away - but he is the real deal

[sammydog]

I wouldn't write Milos off yet. Yeah he missed plenty of sitters but isn't it a positive he had plenty of sitters? He ran and worked all night. On another day he might have scored 3 of them.

I agree, missed some sitters, but I have a feeling he will click soon and be a great pickup for us.

[Retro Jet]

You know, on nights like this I always take a few moments to revel in the misery of
some other bharstards that are suffering....for a change.
Tards foz, page 10 onwards - Post #161 is where I place the goal comments onwards.
http://www.melbournevictory.net/showthread.php?61880-Week-3-Newcastle-v-Melbourne-Victory-Hunter-Stadium-Fri-23-10-K-O-7-40PM&p=3686235#post3686235

Long live Carney the spud!
:brrr:

[q-money]

feed the beast and he will score

[Retro Jet]

The fact that the goal pwned Vuk-a-beotch isn't lost on me either.

Long live Carney the spud...again!
:brrr:
:brrr:

[The Dunster]

I'm enjoying the meltdown on the Tards Forum. They are attributing the loss down to bad refereeing and goal keeper error.

Drawing a very long bow indeed. Too many lazy khunts in the midfield being caught out by Kanta and Poljak was what lost them the game.

Finkler is a deadest waste of space if he is forced to compete for the ball. Bloke has a heart the size of a pea.

With respect to big Milos I reckon he did a ton of work tonight and I am more than happy to give him time. The battle is getting into scoring positions and he's doing that with ease.

I will not be surprised when he scores a double or better in coming weeks.

[Boss]

he was honking

Disagree. Thought he did extremely well when left one on one with barbs and co. Made some clean tackles and held his own imo.

[rhysd]

Cowburn. We is he not a first contracted player?! Someone will pick him up for sure if we don't act.

Milos is a weapon; will score many goals.

Leonardo is awesome to watch. Melbourne were shitting bricks every time he got the ball.

Good to see that muscats real tackle efforts came out! Poljak nearly lost his ankle last night.

[Jeterpool]

You know, on nights like this I always take a few moments to revel in the misery of
some other bharstards that are suffering....for a change.
Tards foz, page 10 onwards - Post #161 is where I place the goal comments onwards.
http://www.melbournevictory.net/showthread.php?61880-Week-3-Newcastle-v-Melbourne-Victory-Hunter-Stadium-Fri-23-10-K-O-7-40PM&p=3686235#post3686235

Long live Carney the spud!
:brrr:

Ha ha that's the best read I've had in ages. Many more blow ups than here.

[joel31]

Season is ova. Boys are cooked. Kev out. Bes out. Demolish AAMI Park. Hire Mehmet Durakovic.
One of my favourite

[Frodo]

Victory Foz is full of Lolz.


To me a massive change from last week was the 'out-ball' from defence into Leonardo. We couldn't get out last week but this week we had some sort of transition.. it made us look competent. When he does manage to beat the first man we were straight on the attack.

Poljak beside Kanta seems to work pretty well too. Poljak has the legs to get up and down, however he is either too scared to force the pass or he's been told to just give it one of the 3 attacking mids. (not a bad idea to be honest.)

Milosh the poor stupid a$$faced legend... haha. I guess i'd rather have a striker who is missing opportunities than a striker who doesn't get any chances. I can see him get a hat-trick at some point this season, if that first one goes in so does the second and third...

Also, i'm gonna claim that we have one of the best back-lines in the league this year. We don't seem to allow the ball into our 6 yard box much at all. 2 DMs is working great at making us hard to break down, and we don't anyone good enough to shield by themselves, so 2 DMs all season for me.

[Jeterpool]

http://www.melbournevictory.net/showthread.php?61880-Week-3-Newcastle-v-Melbourne-Victory-Hunter-Stadium-Fri-23-10-K-O-7-40PM&p=3685489#post3685489

Despite what he says, couscous isn't supporting us anymore. See post 23

[Scourge]

Not sure what the Jackson hate was about, bloke kept barbarouses quiet all night.

My only concern would be him over committing to a player who was a tad less predictable, as every time he tackled barbarouses, he picked his dominant foot and stepped in front of it... Someone who's willing to step off their weak foot and has a bit of pace will be his true test.

[parksey]

Disagree. Thought he did extremely well when left one on one with barbs and co. Made some clean tackles and held his own imo.

he should have cost us one or two goals in the first half with his hesitancy. he dawdled on the ball too and looked like he was shitting himself. fair enough he's only young and would have been nervous, but he didn't have a good game at all. barbs skipped past him at will.

cowburn came on and showed him how it's done.

[Liam26]

I feel like I am going to have a heart attack just reading victory's forum :S

They are so stressed

[parksey]

how bad was victory's midfield btw

[Liam26]

"Get ******. Fold all the clubs, fold the leage, ban soccer in Australia, censor SBS's the world game and champions league games. Im done, im going to watch the Phantom menace"

[Couscous]

http://www.melbournevictory.net/showthread.php?61880-Week-3-Newcastle-v-Melbourne-Victory-Hunter-Stadium-Fri-23-10-K-O-7-40PM&p=3685489#post3685489

Despite what he says, couscous isn't supporting us anymore. See post 23

Reasonable grounds. There was no good reason for ditching the cinnamon.

[halo se7en]

I'm enjoying the meltdown on the Tards Forum. They are attributing the loss down to bad refereeing and goal keeper error.

Drawing a very long bow indeed. Too many lazy khunts in the midfield being caught out by Kanta and Poljak was what lost them the game.

Finkler is a deadest waste of space if he is forced to compete for the ball. Bloke has a heart the size of a pea.

With respect to big Milos I reckon he did a ton of work tonight and I am more than happy to give him time. The battle is getting into scoring positions and he's doing that with ease.

I will not be surprised when he scores a double or better in coming weeks.

:rof: bad refereeing? I agree - Mullen's yellow inside 3 minutes was an absolute joke. Having a CB sit on a yellow for a full 90 minutes is asking for trouble yet MV didn't even try and take advantage of it.

[halo se7en]

Unfortunately I couldn't make it to the game last night... on the upside, I did get to see Carney's interview at the end and then give Lucy Zelic a kiss on the cheek after he was done and she clearly wasn't expecting it. Carney's confidence is obviously through the roof :rof:

[Tommyjet]

he should have cost us one or two goals in the first half with his hesitancy. he dawdled on the ball too and looked like he was shitting himself. fair enough he's only young and would have been nervous, but he didn't have a good game at all. barbs skipped past him at will.

cowburn came on and showed him how it's done.

Obviously I wasn't at the same game

[furns]

Had a first class **** of a day.

Good news is in a couple of hours time these blokes get to complete the abomination of a day.

FMD

:sup:

[Grimario]

Obviously I wasn't at the same game

Yeah, I thought he was excellent. Cowburn was good but committed to the tackle and missed a few times. Jackson was more than happy to basically jockey back and nip the ball when Kosta inevitably ****ed up. The only times I remember him looking shaky is when we lost the ball fairly deep in our own midfield.

[belchardo]

for a midfielder playing for the first time in defence, he was good enough for me.

[hawk]

I wouldn't write Milos off yet. Yeah he missed plenty of sitters but isn't it a positive he had plenty of sitters?

I'd be pissed working my ass off in mids for a front man to do that. not hitting the target is donkeys. not good enough on that aspect.

that intercept he took off Broxom was pretty classy. He did quite a job in other areas though

[Grimario]

for a midfielder playing for the first time in defence, he was good enough for me.

He's a centre back... That's where he played last year when he scored against us, wasn't it?

[joel31]

for a midfielder playing for the first time in defence, he was good enough for me.
Wasn't he centre back at roar?

[joel31]

I'd be pissed working my ass off in mids for a front man to do that. not hitting the target is donkeys. not good enough on that aspect.
Agree 100%

[hawk]

watching the replay our defensive style and going forward is much more organised compared to the last few yrs. yeah there were some lapses but big improvement even with a fairly new squad

[belchardo]

He's a centre back... That's where he played last year when he scored against us, wasn't it?


Wasn't he centre back at roar?

OK, swear on the commentary they said centre mid, but i'll take your words for it. little less impressed then, but still held his own in my opinion.

[borat]

he should have cost us one or two goals in the first half with his hesitancy. he dawdled on the ball too and looked like he was shitting himself. fair enough he's only young and would have been nervous, but he didn't have a good game at all. barbs skipped past him at will.

cowburn came on and showed him how it's done.

Seriously you are waching a different game. Jackson had Barborouses in his pocket all game. In the past 2 weeks Barborouses has been attacking at will and last night Jackson kept him quiet. Got round him once from memory. Not bad for a 20yr old in his 3rd A-League game coming back from a quad strain

[hawk]

Miller getting our bad news bears to match melbourne. good stuff

[militiamon]

Leonardo is a bit of a flog hey. Of all our recent playmaker imports he is the worst I reckon.

Trifunovic, I'm hoping you lot are right when you're saying he'll come good (has been the case in the past with A-League strikers), but fmd he has been honking so far. Unfortunately his nearest replacement is miles away, so fingers crossed the foz is proved right once more.

[militiamon]

Also BK was a champ, some of those saves were sensual. Where are the 5 pages of discussion about that this week?

Actually our whole defence is looking hella strong this year. Hate Boogard though.

[Beeen]

Hoist up the john b sail

[GazFish35]

Interesting to know boogs' reasoning for not staying to celebrate with the corner last night, BK clearly telling him to.

I suppose one bloke knows what it meant to everyone in the crowd, and one not yet aware of how much lag nights win meant.

[Jeterpool]

Reasonable grounds. There was no good reason for ditching the cinnamon.

And Griff doesn't play for us anymore either but we haven't abandoned our support - and that's something which would warrant it

[Mark325]

It seems like a lot of things are coming together for us this season, we have two in form goalkeepers although I think Birraz should come back in the squad when he returns, a really good defensive line, which wasn't even at full strength considering lee is out. Poljak and kanta both do really well in the mid, kanta is looking better then ever and poljak is looking solid. Only thing is we need a better substitute or another guy to contend for a starting spot then cam watson. Carney and Enver are killing it down the wing, Leonardo is starting to settle and looking the goods, and hopefully milos starts to pull through and finish his chances cause he had at least three chances on the weekend he should've buried. Get an injury replacement for haliti, try and sign a mid-season mid if possible and everything will be looking good for is moving forward I reckon

[Premy]

Attention Scotty
Cowburn and Jackson > Hoffman.

I've tried to give the Hoff a chance but we have better options for Rb then him, only time until Scotty makes the change IMO.

[WolfMan]

I've been one of his biggest detractors, but you can't say Hoffman hasn't done well for us at RB so far.

Deserves to keep his position until that changes

[Tommyjet]

I've been one of his biggest detractors, but you can't say Hoffman hasn't done well for us at RB so far.

Deserves to keep his position until that changes

I've noticed many jets fans simply never shake their bias against certain players. Hoffman and Kanta seem to cop it the most, even when they have a blinder. I personally prefer to keep an open mind

[WolfMan]

Fair play to Carney for the goal etc. but I feel like his woeful Set Pieces are being lost in the haze.

No Jets player had any chance of getting on the end of any set piece from my recollection. Terrible

[rhysd]

You mongs. Hoff was close to best on pitch. Wish I knew what game you guys watch.

[The Dunster]

Attention Scotty
Cowburn and Jackson > Hoffman.

I've tried to give the Hoff a chance but we have better options for Rb then him, only time until Scotty makes the change IMO.

Hoffman has been fantastic for us in all three games. You need to show him some love.

[Premy]

I've been open to having him back and would love to see him succeed, maybe I've paid more attention to his failures and sort comings the I have to the good work his done.

IMO him and Enver have turned over possession often and far to cheaply also in dangerous positions, I can't recall many occasions of Hoffman getting forward and providing an option in attack and he seems to want to force the impossible ball rather than play the simple options.

[stopper2]

I've noticed many jets fans simply never shake their bias against certain players. Hoffman and Kanta seem to cop it the most, even when they have a blinder. I personally prefer to keep an open mind

You could add BK too.
Hoff hasn't done too much wrong in our first 3 games and should have had a goal to his name too. I see a player who is 100% committed, Kanta too had one of his best games for a while yesterday and should start again next week in CM. So keep trolling away negative nobodies because it pretty much looks they will be mainstays of the side this season.

[The Dunster]

Leonardo is a bit of a flog hey. Of all our recent playmaker imports he is the worst I reckon.

I was not aware we have actually had any playmaker imports recently at the Jets unless we go back to / include Song.

[380]

I have been one of the Hoffs biggest baggers in the past , he has however been very good for us the first three rounds.

Kanta also showing glimpses again of what we all know he is capable of.

All IMO of course

And Watson is still a donkey.

[joel31]

I was not aware we have actually had any playmaker imports recently at the Jets unless we go back to / include Song.
Flores

[borat]

Ribiero

[borat]

I've been open to having him back and would love to see him succeed, maybe I've paid more attention to his failures and sort comings the I have to the good work his done.

IMO him and Enver have turned over possession often and far to cheaply also in dangerous positions, I can't recall many occasions of Hoffman getting forward and providing an option in attack and he seems to want to force the impossible ball rather than play the simple options.
Last night was probably his worst of Hoffman's 3 games so far, but otherwise he has been outstanding

[Jeterpool]

Flores

Vigs

[hawk]

Had a 2nd look at the game this morn. hoffs 1st half was good. his 2nd half was terrible. some of the mistakes he made put us dire situations.

[militiamon]

I was not aware we have actually had any playmaker imports recently at the Jets unless we go back to / include Song.


Flores


Ribiero

Cheers boiz.

I reckon he's worse than Ribeiro, and we know he's worse than Flores, who is probably one of the most talented guys to have played for the Jets. Most talented for me is the aforementioned Vigs.

[halo se7en]

Cheers boiz.

I reckon he's worse than Ribeiro, and we know he's worse than Flores, who is probably one of the most talented guys to have played for the Jets. Most talented for me is the aforementioned Vigs.

Worse than Ribiero? Are you taking the piss? I barely remember him even taking the field. Leonardo last night was fantastic - won a lot of free kicks that released pressure and gave the defenders a breather. Was always a step ahead of Trif with his thinking and passing and if those two can connect we've got a lot to look forward to. Leo knows how to hold the ball off opponents and then with a swift move get around them. He lost it a few times trying to take people on but if we want someone who always plays the safe backward option, we can just bring Caravella back.

[plague]

Cheers boiz.

I reckon he's worse than Ribeiro, and we know he's worse than Flores, who is probably one of the most talented guys to have played for the Jets. Most talented for me is the aforementioned Vigs.

Vigs Sean Rooney and Griff are immortals of our club.

[q-money]

rofl worse than riberio, one pete c clearly smoking the crack

[GazFish35]

rofl worse than riberio, one pete c clearly smoking the crack

Maybe Pete is still smitten with that bird on riberio's youtube video

[sammydog]

Worse than Ribiero? Are you taking the piss? I barely remember him even taking the field. Leonardo last night was fantastic - won a lot of free kicks that released pressure and gave the defenders a breather. Was always a step ahead of Trif with his thinking and passing and if those two can connect we've got a lot to look forward to. Leo knows how to hold the ball off opponents and then with a swift move get around them. He lost it a few times trying to take people on but if we want someone who always plays the safe backward option, we can just bring Caravella back.

For a while there I thought I was alone in thinking he had a good game. Ran out of legs at the end, but I thought he was solid up until then.

[The Dunster]

Flores

You need to be on the park first. We hardly saw him

[The Dunster]

Cheers boiz.

I reckon he's worse than Ribeiro, and we know he's worse than Flores, who is probably one of the most talented guys to have played for the Jets. Most talented for me is the aforementioned Vigs.

Ribeiro hardly played a game and before he came to the Jets he'd hardly done anywhere near what Leonardo had.

Flores again played **** all for us and is now playing 2nd tier US football.

Agree about Vigs though. Can't believe I forgot about him. He was magnificient

[joel31]

He seems to have good skill just needs to get on the ball more in the right areas

[stopper2]

Ribeiro hardly played a game and before he came to the Jets he'd hardly done anywhere near what Leonardo had.

Flores again played **** all for us and is now playing 2nd tier US football.

Agree about Vigs though. Can't believe I forgot about him. He was magnificient

Leonardo is clearly better than Ribeiro who was hardly sighted and yes Vigs was quality, was a shame he was just getting into a groove when he done his ACL on the infamous Hunter stadium turf.

[Bon]

Maybe Pete is still smitten with that bird on riberio's youtube video

HAHAHA..
I remember her..

[hawk]

Leo is doing ok and getting fitter each week

[Hunter403]

From what I have seen of Leonardo, I think that once his fitness improves he will be huge for us. Did you notice how long it took MV to start knocking him down every time he got the ball? Ok, I know there were a few "milking" attempts, but it seems that he was a target. Give him a chance; we've been screaming out for a 10 and maybe, just maybe, we've found one.

[parksey]

Obviously I wasn't at the same game


Seriously you are waching a different game. Jackson had Barborouses in his pocket all game. In the past 2 weeks Barborouses has been attacking at will and last night Jackson kept him quiet. Got round him once from memory. Not bad for a 20yr old in his 3rd A-League game coming back from a quad strain

i was sitting right in front of him for the first half and he was atrocious. barbarouses danced past him a few times, one time he stood and watched while barbarouses ran onto a loose ball, skipped past him and then got a a shot saved sharply by bk. then there was the time he lost barbs when they played a ball over the top; luckily boogard recovered to save the day.

got caught on the ball a few times trying to dribble out from defence. his passing was bad too, i think he kicked the ball straight out about 3 times.

didn't see much of him second half, and haven't watched the replay, so i'll concede that he may have improved in the second half.

[parksey]

also leonardo is great.

[Nou Camp]

best game ive seen us play for a long time
scramble defence was excellent, great to see rather than the usual ball watching of previous years
Khalfallah, berisha, Barbarouses & finkler all kept very quiet

who got the fox sports 321?

[plague]

who got the fox sports 321?

Del Piero

[RAM]

Barbarouses made mince meat of Jackson, which game were you ****s watching ffs :rof: :rof: :rof:

[Nou Camp]

Barbarouses made mince meat of Jackson, which game were you ****s watching ffs :rof: :rof: :rof:

went past Jackson a couple of times and did what? nothing, cover defence shut him down quick

[Bon]

Yeah I gotta say that I thought Jackson did pretty well (this is only going off the drunken haze of what I remember - perhaps re-watching the game in the sober light of day may tell a different story)..
I mean, Jackson looked nervous at times, but overall I think he did really well keeping Barbarouses out of it, took the ball off him a few times when he tried to cut in.. Barbarouses looked pretty poor..

[Jeterpool]

Sounding more and more like Jackson is the foz's new BK.

[Grimario]

Sounding more and more like Jackson is the foz's new BK.

BK is still the new BK.

Was shit on Friday night, didn't know a thing about half of his saves. Just lucky that Victory were kicking straight at him.


:gent:

[la bazzle]

also leonardo is great.

Glad to give you positive rep for this

[RAM]

went past Jackson a couple of times and did what? nothing, cover defence shut him down quick

still went past him very easily, don't know how the cover defence cleaning up Jackson's mess makes Jackson himself pass the grade

we were just lucky not to be punished

to me it seemed like every time it went down that flank they were in behind us, with Jackson providing all the defensive pressure and tackling ability of a witches hat

[The Dunster]

still went past him very easily, don't know how the cover defence cleaning up Jackson's mess makes Jackson himself pass the grade

we were just lucky not to be punished

to me it seemed like every time it went down that flank they were in behind us, with Jackson providing all the defensive pressure and tackling ability of a witches hat

I was really concerned when we lost Sam Gallaway that we wouldn't have anyone to blame for shit regardless if it was their fault or not.
Thankfully the club has for once done something for the fans and signed Jackson as the clubs whipping boy.:gent:

[Nou Camp]

still went past him very easily, don't know how the cover defence cleaning up Jackson's mess makes Jackson himself pass the grade

we were just lucky not to be punished

to me it seemed like every time it went down that flank they were in behind us, with Jackson providing all the defensive pressure and tackling ability of a witches hat

I never said Jackson passes the grade, just that victorys attackers were kept quiet
jury is still out for me on Jackson did some good and bad things
its only his 4th a league game, coming back from injury and we were playing the a league champs

[BodyNovo]

still much prefer playing Jackson there as I do playing david carney there.

[sneaky]

Obviously beer affects you guys a lot on here. Jackson was great shutting down a lot of MV play. I was watching from halfway and most blokes around me were impressed by him as far as a debut goes.He was very composed for his age and his positioning was pretty good too. Shut down there plays several times. Yes barbarouses went passed him but not with the ball!!
I think hes got real potential. Yes better option than carney at back as Carney needs to be further forward obviously!

[RAM]

I never said Jackson passes the grade, just that victorys attackers were kept quiet
jury is still out for me on Jackson did some good and bad things
its only his 4th a league game, coming back from injury and we were playing the a league champs

yep I understand, my point is that he didn't keep KB quiet - rather we were lucky that we weren't punished by the mismatch on that flank

[RAM]

still much prefer playing Jackson there as I do playing david carney there.

I agree, for me it just shows how thin our squad is when one wingback is out (Leaky) and we can't find a replacement without ****ing the team, be it defensively (with Jackson there) or offensively (with Carney there)...

[RAM]

Obviously beer affects you guys a lot on here. Jackson was great shutting down a lot of MV play. I was watching from halfway and most blokes around me were impressed by him as far as a debut goes.He was very composed for his age and his positioning was pretty good too. Shut down there plays several times. Yes barbarouses went passed him but not with the ball!!
I think hes got real potential. Yes better option than carney at back as Carney needs to be further forward obviously!

should of gone to specsavers

[Tommyjet]

Obviously beer affects you guys a lot on here. Jackson was great shutting down a lot of MV play. I was watching from halfway and most blokes around me were impressed by him as far as a debut goes.He was very composed for his age and his positioning was pretty good too. Shut down there plays several times. Yes barbarouses went passed him but not with the ball!!
I think hes got real potential. Yes better option than carney at back as Carney needs to be further forward obviously!

Spot on, most near me were also singing his praises. Impressive debut.

[q-money]

deadset, some of you blokes would boo santa claus

it's the kid's first game for a new club, playing in a notoriously tough position, against one of the best forwards in the league

i think he did alright ay

[rhysd]

Jackson was gash, seemed uninterested and out of his depth in that possie. Turning circle of a semi trailer. Cowburn came on and showed him out to play at LB.

Prepared to give Jackson another go, may have been affected by his injury.

[MFKS]

****ing hell some of you hammering on about Jackson.

Yes he got caught out a few times.

For the most part he done a pretty solid job.

The way he let Barbarousis run at him and then picked his pocket was ****ing class.

Yes the bloke has some things to work on but what 4 career game player doesn't.


Thing is there are some positives there and I hope he is playing this week again so I can see more of him before writing him off like some of you miserable people are already doing based on 60 mins

[q-money]

****ing hell some of you hammering on about Jackson.

Yes he got caught out a few times.

For the most part he done a pretty solid job.

The way he let Barbarousis run at him and then picked his pocket was ****ing class.

Yes the bloke has some things to work on but what 4 career game player doesn't.


Thing is there are some positives there and I hope he is playing this week again so I can see more of him before writing him off like some of you miserable people are already doing based on 60 mins

who are you and what have you done with the original MFKS?

[parksey]

i don't think anyone's writing him off.

he just had a bad game, which is understandable considering his experience and who we were playing.

i wouldn't have been so harsh had there not been posts about how he had barbarouses in his pocket all night.

[MFKS]

who are you and what have you done with the original MFKS?

Same bloke.

***

[The Dunster]

Blokes tend to be more relaxed after a good empty out.

[hawk]

jeez kryst theres some divided opinion on jacko. he did it all, alot good some bad.

[RAM]

i don't think anyone's writing him off.

he just had a bad game, which is understandable considering his experience and who we were playing.

i wouldn't have been so harsh had there not been posts about how he had barbarouses in his pocket all night.

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