15/16 HAL Round 10 | Newcastle Jets v Melbourne City | Sunday 13/12/15 ko 515pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 15/16 Round 10 Preview - Newcastle Jets v Melbourne City

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 16 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 7, City Wins - 6, Drawn - 3


In Newcastle – 8 matches.
Jets Wins - 5, City Wins - 2, Drawn - 1
In Melbourne - 8
Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 4, Drawn - 2

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9899
Average Away A-League Crowd - 6909

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 26, City - 29
In Newcastle -
Jets – 15, City - 11

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 8, City - 8

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 51 (50 yellow, 1 red), City 24 (23 yellow, 1 red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets - LDDDL (3 points from last 15)
City - WLDWW (10 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Milos Trifunovic (4)
City – Bruno Fornaroli (7)

Last Result -
Jets 3 (Kantarovski 58', Trifunovic 74' pen, Trifunovic 78') – City 2 (Mooy 12', Mauk 22') at AAMI Park A-League, Round 4, 30/10/2015.

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 11 Round 4

Newcastle JetsMelbourne City
Mark BirighittiThomas Sorensen
Jason HoffmanConnor Chapman
Daniel MullenPatrick Kisnorbo
Nigel BoogaardPaulo Retre
Ki-Je LeeBen Garrucio
Mateo PoljakAaron Mooy
Ben KantarovskiJacob Melling
Mitch CooperStefan Mauk
David CarneySteve Kuzmanovski
Enver AlivodicBruno Fornaroli
Milos TrifunovicDavid Williams



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
City - Mate Dugandzic (5)



2015/16 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubstitute AppearancesSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed - Second BookableStraight Red
1Mark Birighitti880170900100
2Daniel Mullen440036000100
3Jason Hoffman990081000300
4Nigel Boogaard660151900010
5Ben Kantarovski871162720400
6Cameron Watson862454000200
7Enver Alivodic990178910100
8Mateo Poljak990081001100
9Milos Trifunovic880271740300
10Leonardo Vitor Santiago660545001000
11Labinot Haliti21112400000
12Andy Brennan0000000000
13Ki-Je Lee770063001100
14Mitch Cooper41316300000
15Themba Muata-Marlow0000000000
17Radovan Pavicevic40407000200
18Josh Barresi0000000000
20Ben Kennedy211010100000
22Lachlan Jackson660250000000
23David Carney990180823400
24Nick Cowburn40407000000
25Brandon Lundy10107500000
27Braedyn Crowley312011000000
28Ryan Kitto312111501000
29Andrew Pawiak0000000000
40Blake Tuxford0000000000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Scott Miller - 1 win, John Van't Schip - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Scott Miller - 1 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Melbourne City Coach Record – John Van't Schip 41% win ratio (5 wins, 2 drawn, 5 losses)




KEY FACTS:

General

The Jets last win came against Melbourne City was the second time they have come from behind at half time to win, and the first from being 2 goals down.
City scored 5 goals in their last visit to Hunter Stadium
Newcastle have been scoreless in the first half of the last 8 matches. This equals the previous record which was set last season.
Both the Jets and the visiting team have entered the sheds scoreless at half time in 12 of the last 18 home matches.
There is, on average, more than 3 goals per match when these two teams meet and only one match has had fewer than 2 goals.



Players

Mark Birrighitti has kept 2 clean sheets in his 3 home appearances against Melbourne City
Milos Trifunovic hasn't had a shot in his last 2 appearances.
The Jets have been adjudged offside 5 times in each of the last two matches



Coaches

December has recently been a tough month for Jets coaches. In the previous 4 seasons, the Jets have won 5, drawn 1 and lost 13 matches during the festive period.
However, the Jets remained winless in November for the second consecutive year.
Miller's Jets continue to be the tightest defensive team in Jets history, conceding 1.1 goals per match so far this season.
However, they remain the least disciplined, with an average of 2.6 yellow cards per match. The team's discipline may be improving because they have only received 1 booking in the last 2 matches.



Newcastle Jets

The Jets have kept the visiting scoreless in the first half of the last 7 matches.
The Jets have won only one game at home in 2015.



Melbourne City

City have scored 5 goals in their last two games.
But they are yet to keep a clean sheet in the A-League
Melbourne City have kept the Jets scoreless in the first half of the last 5 matches.

[belchardo]

draw. 2-2

[plague]

Doomed.
Flogged.
Prob 10-0.
Mooy to be involved in all the goals and Member to make fart noises with his mouth saying how rubbish he is.

Miller OUT.

[MFKS]

Doomed.
Flogged.
Prob 10-0.
Mooy to be involved in all the goals and Member to make fart noises with his mouth saying how rubbish he is.

Miller OUT.

Agree we will loose
Probably not by 10 though

Fully agree that Mooy bloke is rubbish. Laziest most over rated player in the HAL and that includes our blokes

[The Dunster]

If ever there was a team we should play two strikers against it's City. They always leak goals and there is also the fact they would have trained all week expecting us to only play with a lone striker.

[belchardo]

If ever there was a team we should play two strikers against it's City. They always leak goals and there is also the fact they would have trained all week expecting us to only play with a lone striker.

well they won't now! :)

[MFKS]

well they won't now! :)

If JVS is reading the Foz to work out his tactical approach to deal with our shit team this Sunday then he may as well quit.

Millertime on the other hand could learn a thing or two by reading the foz

[Jetmaster]

Will go to usual script...

* Firstly game will be boring overall
* We will not attack in the first 10 mins
* Mooy will be strangely quiet
* Triff will miss a sitter
* Birraz will mess up a cross
* We will scamble two goals inside the six yard box
* There will be one moment of huge controversy
* Leo will get injured
* We will be leading by two
* MC score with 15 mins remaining
* Usual squeaky bum time
* Win 2-1 and we are contenders once more

[Superdylan]

Ridiculous to think we beat them 3-2 only a couple weeks back in late October.

Now they have won 5-1 last 2 games.

[lquiquer]

Will go to usual script...

* Firstly game will be boring overall
* We will not attack in the first 10 mins
* Mooy will be strangely quiet
* Triff will miss a sitter
* Birraz will mess up a cross
* We will scamble two goals inside the six yard box
* There will be one moment of huge controversy
* Leo will get injured
* We will be leading by two
* MC score with 15 mins remaining
* Usual squeaky bum time
* Win 2-1 and we are contenders once more
* SD Will miss the end

^^

[Jeterpool]

Will go to usual script...

* Firstly game will be boring overall
* We will not attack in the first 10 mins
* Mooy will be strangely quiet
* Triff will miss a sitter
* Birraz will mess up a cross
* We will scamble two goals inside the six yard box
* There will be one moment of huge controversy
* Leo will get injured
* We will be leading by two
* MC score with 15 mins remaining
* Usual squeaky bum time
* Win 2-1 and we are contenders once more

You know when the last time we scored a goal inside the first 10 minutes was? 3/11/2012 which was a Tiago goal away to Perth.

We are notoriously slow starters

[MFKS]

You know when the last time we scored a goal inside the first 10 minutes was? 3/11/2012 which was a Tiago goal away to Perth.

We are notoriously slow starters

Probably because we refuse to take any initiative in the game.

Ffs it took 40 mins for us to actually create a chance at home last time out

How about for once we come charging out the blocks and batter the **** out of our opponent.

We may not score but guarantee we get the crowd on side

[Hunter403]

Ridiculous to think we beat them 3-2 only a couple weeks back in late October.

Now they have won 5-1 last 2 games.

the whole damn draw is ridiculous

[lquiquer]

the whole damn draw is ridiculous

We will have played FC 3 times bfore we play Perf for the first time !!!!...

[leftrightout]

Probably because we refuse to take any initiative in the game.

Ffs it took 40 mins for us to actually create a chance at home last time out

How about for once we come charging out the blocks and batter the **** out of our opponent.

We may not score but guarantee we get the crowd on side

Refuse is probably the wrong word. We just don't have the quality to really compete.
I don't think its by choice that we aren't attacking much!

[MFKS]

Refuse is probably the wrong word. We just don't have the quality to really compete.
I don't think its by choice that we aren't attacking much!
We never done it under Muppet or GVE either.

We always came out of the blocks slowly

Under Zane we at least showed a little more intent when playing at home.

It has been a long time really since our side has come out at home with the attacking intention to stick it to our opponent.


Far too long.

It should be every game that in the first 15-20 mins we start with energy and intent and play with a passion that shows the opponent they are in for a tough game against us. But no we just park the bus start sloppy and bore our opponent into submission and we then finally start playing when space opens up and they realise they are playing our game not theirs.

[Jetmaster]

I would like to see us try do something different from the kickoff and at least surprise the opposition - play 3-4-3 or 4-4-2 and just get the ball into the box as quickly as possible.

Watching our first 10 mins is like the first session of a test match sometimes, but you remember those tests when someone comes out and has a go from ball one. Of course it won't always come off but at least make the effort now and then.

[plague]

Refuse is probably the wrong word. We just don't have the quality to really compete.
I don't think its by choice that we aren't attacking much!

Oh come on this is the same horseshit we heard during the GVE era.
Coach is a coward and if he can't get the players he has to play to their strengths then he's failed and should get the **** out.

[MFKS]

I would like to see us try do something different from the kickoff and at least surprise the opposition - play 3-4-3 or 4-4-2 and just get the ball into the box as quickly as possible.

Watching our first 10 mins is like the first session of a test match sometimes, but you remember those tests when someone comes out and has a go from ball one. Of course it won't always come off but at least make the effort now and then.
Bang On

Give our opponent something to think about from the off.

We are ridiculously predictable and start at a slow pace and slow tempo. We don't even have the gears to go through really to stretch out in style.

If we start slowly and with a degree of lethargy it transcends through the entire game.
If we start like a house on fire the players get the crowd on side and gain confidence and add in a reward on the scoreboard and the tone is set for the rest of the game

Go hard early.

[BodyNovo]

Oh come on this is the same horseshit we heard during the GVE era.
Coach is a coward and if he can't get the players he has to play to their strengths then he's failed and should get the **** out.

imo GVE had one off the best teams on paper in his last year since the GF win.

miller in comparison doesn't have the same squad.

I think miller is playing to our strengths by being defensive.

we can either go 2 routes.

play like we are, nick a result, draw a lot of games and lose by no more then 1-2 goals max

or we can go the gypos way

lose 5-3 but "entertain"

its going to take at least another a season till we can be competitive in terms of an attacking sense imo.

[q-money]

this team does not have a bloke that can seize initiative from the get go - i.e. griff, taggz

there are no strengths in this area. miller is right to have them playing like they are. they are not good enough to play high-risk football.

member - how do you suggest that miller pumps these blokes up? (i suggest watching this film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avmMdCk-Bvw)

and who should be the man to do it? milos is completely mental but slow as a wet week

[q-money]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thWqNof5nXA

this would do the trick as well

[GazFish35]

Oh come on this is the same horseshit we heard during the GVE era.
Coach is a coward and if he can't get the players he has to play to their strengths then he's failed and should get the **** out.

I reckon he has got them playing to their strengths.
there strengths are very limited though.

take Birraz as one example, his strength is clearly point blank range shot stopping, his weakness - dealing with crosses.
in the past few weeks, Birraz has stopped coming for crosses almost all together and playing to his strengths - allow them to shoot from point blank range and save it.

if that's not playing to your strengths i'm not sure what is.

Milos is another example - hes really really good an running slow, not chasing and missing the ball and/target when he shoots. They are clearly the strengths he's been playing too.

Carney - strengths - crossing and tricky shit that goes nowhere, hes been playing to that and ignoring defensive responsibilities (something he did so strongly in the Asian Cup final a few years back)



there is three players all playing to their strengths.



our squad is not of high quality, miller is getting a job done with limited cattle.

h'es playing beer football on a beer budget, with stale beer.

[Jeterpool]

Milos is another example - hes really really good an running slow, not chasing and missing the ball and/target when he shoots. They are clearly the strengths he's been playing too.


I disagree. He's not had a shot in his last 2 matches so we don't know whether he is playing to his strengths.

To be fair, the injuries to Mullen, Boogaard and Leonardo have seen us actually lose 4-5 players from our top team because Kanta has had to move as has Carney to cover in addition to those players absence.

[plague]

Horseshit argument.
Of course we are 'playing to our strengths' when you have 4 fullbacks and 2 defensive midfielders on the park then moan that you can't score goals so you'd better stiffen up the defence (which has kept how many clean sheets this year again?)

How about 2 strikers?
How about a more mobile/attacking def mid?
He's not trying anything.
He's a coward.
Cape up for him all you want but pretending like 'this is all we've got' is pissweak.
Why bother having a coach if his entire approach is exactly the same week to week?

[MFKS]

this team does not have a bloke that can seize initiative from the get go - i.e. griff, taggz

there are no strengths in this area. miller is right to have them playing like they are. they are not good enough to play high-risk football.

member - how do you suggest that miller pumps these blokes up? (i suggest watching this film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avmMdCk-Bvw)

and who should be the man to do it? milos is completely mental but slow as a wet week

To me though we are playing high risk football when we have the ball.

Our blokes are not good enough to try passing their way through the opposition. Yet we persist in trying to do it.

FFS play simple football. Get it wide get it long and whip it into the box and see what happens. There is too much unnecessary fancy shit from our blokes that don't work as we don't have the skill set.

I strongly disagree he has us set up right. Defensively yes. Attacking though he is still trying to bite off more than he can chew with a limited squad.


How do I suggest Millertime should pump these blokes up??

Doesn't he have a physcology degree or is that just some more new age Bullshit that don't work.

If he needs some **** to fire these blokes up the solution is at hand

Give me 20 cans pre game and I will do it and blast that 3/4 time speech out of the water

[Jeterpool]

I think Mullen has been a far greater loss than we first thought. He has the ability to bring the ball out from the back which is something we haven't been doing. This is putting greater pressure on our two holders because their striker can just sit on them and the wingers on our full backs. As a aresult we seem to be getting "stuck" at the back and either go long and turn it over or try to play it out under pressure and turn it over.

[BodyNovo]

other then milos we only have Radovan as a striker and I think the fact that miller picked Crowley as a striker over him a couple of weeks ago suggest what he thinks off him.

milos is the only striker of some quality. so I can't even comprehend us playing 2 strikers and at the end off the day other then Brisbane (who you could debate) who plays with 2 strikers and is succeeding.

all teams are playing with a point man with 2 wide guys.

IMO we need to be getting the ball quicker to alivodic and carney so they can do there shit. at the moment with poljak and Watson that isn't happening quick enough. hopefully this weekend kanta will return back to 6 and start recycling possession quicker.

having leo back will be huge as well.

[q-money]

our strikers are such hot garbage

[plague]

Ahhhhh the squad/players fault for the 7th year running.
Nothing to do with the hypocritical coward in charge.

Cool cool.

[Mark325]

Ahhhhh the squad/players fault for the 7th year running.
Nothing to do with the hypocritical coward in charge.

Cool cool.

Most everyone on here blamed Stubbins and Gary for the shit of the past few seasons, last season especially

[Jeterpool]

Ahhhhh the squad/players fault for the 7th year running.
Nothing to do with the hypocritical coward in charge.

Cool cool.

Win as a team and lose as a team

[lquiquer]

Ahhhhh the squad/players fault for the 7th year running.
Nothing to do with the hypocritical coward in charge.

Cool cool.

A bit hard when our blokes struggle to put 3 passes together!!!

[The Dunster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE

Someone send Miller a copy.

[Jeterpool]

A bit hard when our blokes struggle to put 3 passes together!!!

Isn't that the truth! I was getting so angry watching the first half in particular.

[Wilso8948]

FFS play simple football. Get it wide get it long and whip it into the box and see what happens. There is too much unnecessary fancy shit from our blokes that don't work as we don't have the skill set.

Yeh thats it get old devon head to lob some balls into the 4 foot Serbian and the Brazillian with the dodgy knee.

You blokes will all eat your hats when we win the league. Come on Scotty.. I believe.. You and me can soar together.

[MFKS]

Yeh thats it get old devon head to lob some balls into the 4 foot Serbian and the Brazillian with the dodgy knee.

You blokes will all eat your hats when we win the league. Come on Scotty.. I believe.. You and me can soar together.

Milos ain't 4 foot tall and if you actually look he is not the worst in the air hence why he has got 2 goals from headers from crosses and 1 from his feet from a cross.

As for the Brazilian with the dodgy knee. The bloke is a failure.

Gives nothing to our side. A couple of fancy step overs and dribbles but no end product at all.

What the **** are we paying this bloke for as he is meant to be a No 10??


Why is he even considered for a spot in the team is beyond me. Bloke has brought nothing to the table in 9 weeks other than a few fancy step overs and dribbles that have achieved nothing

Just like a showbag. Glittery and shiny but ultimately full of useless crap

[q-money]

i think he meant alivodic

[Bon]

i think he meant alivodic

Yeah thats what I assumed too..

[Mark325]

One thing thats gotta change is game time for Cowburn

[plague]

Win as a team and lose as a team

Except if you're a coward coach and you throw your players under the bus after a loss.

Solidarity forever huh.

[q-money]

how's plague aka billy bragg now the friend of the working man ffs :yap:

[belchardo]

Christ plague, did miller cut your grass or something?

[plague]

I'm not cranky at Miller.

I'm cranky at all you lot for caping up for the dude thinking for one second he was any different to what we all just went through.

[plague]

how's plague aka billy bragg now the friend of the working man ffs :yap:

Wow.
Just wow.
I mean......wow.
Well in sir.



Isn't he writing children's books now or something?

[MFKS]

I'm not cranky at Miller.

I'm cranky at all you lot for caping up for the dude thinking for one second he was any different to what we all just went through.
Settle down.

Just because your thinking I have gone soft no need to think I can't ramp it up.

I am just warming up to the task

[Nou Camp]

Milos ain't 4 foot tall and if you actually look he is not the worst in the air hence why he has got 2 goals from headers from crosses and 1 from his feet from a cross.

As for the Brazilian with the dodgy knee. The bloke is a failure.

Gives nothing to our side. A couple of fancy step overs and dribbles but no end product at all.

What the **** are we paying this bloke for as he is meant to be a No 10??


Why is he even considered for a spot in the team is beyond me. Bloke has brought nothing to the table in 9 weeks other than a few fancy step overs and dribbles that have achieved nothing

Just like a showbag. Glittery and shiny but ultimately full of useless crap

his got some pretty good dance moves out on the town (where he spends most of his time)

[MFKS]

i think he meant alivodic

If he meant Alivodic his argument is even more stupid.

Why the **** is one winger lobbing balls across the box to the other winger instead of into the goal mouth for your striker??

[plague]

Settle down.

Just because your thinking I have gone soft no need to think I can't ramp it up.

I am just warming up to the task

Well it might be time to get some of that black plastic off the floor under your computer and make some new signs.

[MFKS]

Well it might be time to get some of that black plastic off the floor under your computer and make some new signs.

Settle down buddy. All in good time. It ain't that time yet

As much as these ****s are pissing me off they are so far exceeding my expectations for them

Sure enough given time the wheels will fall off soon enough

We have been lucky, we have had opponents hit woodwork miss sitters and my boy Birraz has been saving our arses most weeks

The universe will balance out soon enough and we will cop a pasting that we deserve

[Wilso8948]

If he meant Alivodic his argument is even more stupid.

Why the **** is one winger lobbing balls across the box to the other winger instead of into the goal mouth for your striker??

Ok we will stick to your plan of going wide and lobbing it into our striker who will be marked by three defenders cause out 4 foot tall winger ALIVODIC is standing on the other sideline scratching his nuts and our brazilian with the dicky knee is on the sideline getting a rub down. Have you actually seen our crosses? Most of the time it goes from winger to winger anyway! Thanks for calling my argument stupid though. I'll remember that all the horseshit you dish out everyday is so well thought out.

[hawk]

Well it might be time to get some of that black plastic off the floor under your computer and make some new signs.

dust it off.

Lets start with the FFA while the boots are going in, then onto recruitment..... Wher the ****y h*ll are you...

[outsider]

Referee Chris Beath

[Nou Camp]

is boogard back?

if so kanta back to midfield for Watson
cowburn I think should be given a start for Hoffman ?

[rhysd]

Play Leonardo for 45-60 mins instead of smashing him for 90 mins and perhaps his knee won't get so sore.

[Wilso8948]

is boogard back?

if so kanta back to midfield for Watson
cowburn I think should be given a start for Hoffman ?

Credit where its due. Hoff has been one of our most consistent players this year. Big Scotty M sees Cowburn as a mid. He is pushing for a start but can't see that happening If Poljak and Kanta are our screening mids. Boogs is apparently been named.

[Wilso8948]

Tbh if it were me and had to start Cowburn I'd bench Alivodic and play LeekyG further up the park. Then put Cowburn at LB. I think Enver needs a rocket up his ass his touch is of a 6 year old.

[Nou Camp]

Play Leonardo for 45-60 mins instead of smashing him for 90 mins and perhaps his knee won't get so sore.

needs to give up the cigarettes and nights clubs and he will be fine

[q-money]

so this bloke is on the darts and cuttin' a rug?

what a legend

[Jeterpool]

is boogard back?

if so kanta back to midfield for Watson


If he's only returned to training today, Leonardo may not be risked with the short turn around to Adelaide next week. Or he may come off the bench. Miller may opt to play Kanta further forward in which case Watson may still have his spot. I would swap Watson with Cowburn, however, because as you've said he's ready for a start and as others have said, Miller sees his future as a mid.

[Nou Camp]

Credit where its due. Hoff has been one of our most consistent players this year. Big Scotty M sees Cowburn as a mid. He is pushing for a start but can't see that happening If Poljak and Kanta are our screening mids. Boogs is apparently been named.

I think he started he year well but to me has really dropped off in recent weeks

[MFKS]

Big Scotty M sees Cowburn as a mid. He is pushing for a start but can't see that happening If Poljak and Kanta are our screening mids.

You do realise CM is his ACTUAL position and he ain't a right back???

[Wilso8948]

You do realise CM is his ACTUAL position and he ain't a right back???

So therefore Big Scotty M is right? No wonder I have faith. You and me can soar together Scotty.

Ps wtf is an ACTUAL position anyway? Wherever the **** the gaffer sees you is your position.

[MFKS]

So therefore Big Scotty M is right? No wonder I have faith. You and me can soar together Scotty.

Ps wtf is an ACTUAL position anyway? Wherever the **** the gaffer sees you is your position.

Yep so by that way of thinking when Muppet played Griff on the right wing and refused to play him as a striker that made Muppet right??


If Millertime decides to play Birraz and BK as strikers and Milos in goals this weekend and has a back 4 of Leonardo Mitch Copper Alivodic and Pavicevic then you would be happy as they are all playing in their correct position because the coach selected them to play there??

FMD

[Nou Camp]

sometimes players are moved to accommodate other players or asked to fill a role due to a shortage
cowburn did a good job last year at right full back, theres no reason why he couldn't again

[Couscous]

I like both of these teams. However, on this occasion, I will be a passionate Jets supporter. #NewyTID

[plague]

sometimes players are moved to accommodate other players or asked to fill a role due to a shortage
cowburn did a good job last year at right full back, theres no reason why he couldn't again

Sometimes the coach is full of shit and doesn't put the same expectations on himself as he does his players.

[MFKS]

Thats alright Plague besides you and me no ****er on the foz has any expectations on him as a coach at all.

Many are quite happy to defend a bloke whose entire game plan revolves around parking a bus not attacking and not playing with heart and passion whilst boring us to death.

[Nou Camp]

not defending anyone just saying players get moved... even joey johns got moved to hooker to accommodate kimmorley haha

we don't have the cattle to play attacking football atm

[plague]

we don't have the cattle to play attacking football atm

Every time I read this an Excuse Angel loses its wings.............

[q-money]

what jets do you even watch mate?

[plague]

what jets do you even watch mate?
Me?
I'm watching the same bag of shit we've been served up for years.

For some reason blokes on here are carrying on like its a new dawn or something.

They were shit with no hope 5 years ago, I'm staying consistent.

[lquiquer]

Me?
I'm watching the same bag of shit we've been served up for years.

For some reason blokes on here are carrying on like its a new dawn or something.

They were shit with no hope 5 years ago, I'm staying consistent.

Maybe the general consensus should be: It's better than last year ONLY because it can't be worse

[hawk]

not defending anyone just saying players get moved... even joey johns got moved to hooker to accommodate kimmorley haha

we don't have the cattle to play attacking football atm

We havent got a decent squad for him to coach. So where do you think we need to improve? no cvnt has mentioned it yet. Go on have a plug

[WolfMan]

Play Leonardo for 45-60 mins instead of smashing him for 90 mins and perhaps his knee won't get so sore.

We have much to discuss

[rhysd]

We have much to discuss
Do enlighten

[WolfMan]

Do enlighten

Oh, I just meant I agree with your sentiment whole-heartedly. Thought I was the only one who was concerned with the mismanagement of such a talent.

But then you came along and restored my faith in humanity

[plague]

Team already said his knee is cactus and will be like that til end of season. Doesn't sound like it matters how many minutes he plays.

[rhysd]

Oh, I just meant I agree with your sentiment whole-heartedly. Thought I was the only one who was concerned with the mismanagement of such a talent.

But then you came along and restored my faith in humanity

Agree. If it is a cartilage issue as they are discussing then you would imagine that they would try to steadily increase his workload and allow him to adapt through progressive conditioning.

but hey, what would I know.

[MFKS]

Agree. If it is a cartilage issue as they are discussing then you would imagine that they would try to steadily increase his workload and allow him to adapt through progressive conditioning.

but hey, what would I know.

If he has a knee issue and it is ongoing problem the question has to be asked why did we sign a crock and who done the due diligence when they were looking at signing him??

Same old Jets

FMD

[rhysd]

If he has a knee issue and it is ongoing problem the question has to be asked why did we sign a crock and who done the due diligence when they were looking at signing him??

Same old Jets

FMD

He appeared to be doing well until he hit the ground hard earlier in the season (fell on his knee).. They can be quite painful and can stir up old issues.

Most professional soccer players would have something going on with their knees.. As to whether they symptomatic or not is another question.

[Jetmaster]

If he has a knee issue and it is ongoing problem the question has to be asked why did we sign a crock and who done the due diligence when they were looking at signing him??

Same old Jets

FMD

Yet you would happily sign a damaged Griff unconditionally ? ;P

[MFKS]

Yet you would happily sign a damaged Griff unconditionally ? ;P

A damaged Griff is better than all these blokes in the club put together.

Anyone who would knock back the Griff has NFI

The bloke is a god and would still kill it at this club

[hawk]

He appeared to be doing well until he hit the ground hard earlier in the season (fell on his knee).. They can be quite painful and can stir up old issues.

Most professional soccer players would have something going on with their knees.. As to whether they symptomatic or not is another question.

used the word soccer, invalid comment

[Jeterpool]

Game day. Fire up etc

[Couscous]

I am warm.

[belchardo]

Geez connor chapman sounds more like ljubo each time I hear him.

[boz-monaut]

I'm currently at home, cleaning up my partner's vomit

it's much more enjoyable than watching that kick off

how can you **** up a kick off?

[weston]

Thought Leo should of had a crack there.

[WolfMan]

I'm currently at home, cleaning up my partner's vomit

it's much more enjoyable than watching that kick off

how can you **** up a kick off?

Fantastic!

I've chosen to stay home as well. Much rather spend my day off crying in the comfort of my own home

[belchardo]

Jets with leo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jets without leo

[MFKS]

I have rocked up here 10 mins late pissed to the eyeballs on free grog all day and not impressed with what I have seen. So far

Tbese ****s are ****ed

Miller out

[belchardo]

How does that not get a yellow?

We are so sloppy with our passing and movement!

[belchardo]

Sorry to see chapman off injured. Bit of a soft spot for him.

[boz-monaut]

same - if we'd kept him, Goodwin, Griff etc etc etc etc, we really could have had a good team out there

one worth actually turning up to watch

[weston]

Why is every cross floated in? Just makes it easier for the opposition goalkeeper to catch it. Or is that what we do? Nice guys and all that

[belchardo]

Why is every cross floated in? Just makes it easier for the opposition goalkeeper to catch it. Or is that what we do? Nice guys and all that

Was certainly nice guy marking for the goal.

[MFKS]

Plague I have some black plastic I am over this shit

Miller out

[Couscous]

Aaron Mooy is a pretty good player at A-League level. I think Scott Miller should have requested that his team mark Mooy a little more closely than others.

[belchardo]

Can't see leo lasting more than another 15. He's pretty much disappeared since about 20 in.

[GazFish35]

I'm currently at home, cleaning up my partner's vomit

it's much more enjoyable than watching that kick off

how can you **** up a kick off?
Congrats.
When is she due?

[weston]

2 wooden spoons in a row boys. Believe it!!!!

[belchardo]

God this is terrible. Making mediocre players look like superstars.

[belchardo]

**** me. Is that the third goal that's been put through someones legs?

[parksey]

miller still on the zonal defence fad

[outsider]

Seriously-is Jackson up to this level?Stood and watched the last two goals.The back four should be paying to get in with the rest of the spectators.

[The Dunster]

We walked out after the second goal as you could see by the Jets body language they had pretty much left the stadium as well.
This team is broken beyond repair.

[boz-monaut]

the whole club is broken beyond repair

I said it last season and I'll say it again - burn it all to the ground and start again

[plague]

I said it last season and I'll say it again - burn it all to the ground and start again

you're half right.

[hawk]

so we lost a football game

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vampirediaries/images/b/b6/Wallpaper-sexy-woman-72041.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150410080250

[rhysd]

No offence to the guys sitting on the bench but the lack of squad depth is apparent for all to see. Only one of those blokes should be on the bench and they should not be the ones who we should be relying on to change the game.

We are desperately missing boogard and Mullen. There was no organization coming from the back, as could be witnessed by poljak continuously asking his back 4 to push up.

Cam Watson had probably his worst game, and to be fair, his best isn't really that crash hot either.

This squad is unbalanced, and that is a failure of previous regimes.

With much of the squad coming off contract, some real changes and positive signings need to be made.

Cash in on carney and push lee up the pitch. That will give us some real energy further up the field where we need someone to be feeding a quick ball into milos.

Leonardo, again, played 77 minutes. He was being fed painkillers on the sidelines at 20-25 minutes. alivodic got hooked before him.. Why?

Having said that the jets started off positively, and there was some real threats going forward. The goal before half time was the beginning of the end.

[parksey]

the reason why alivodic was hooked before leonardo was probably because enver was ****ing abysmal

[baldrick]

At least we didn't concede 5

[front2]

I was having a break down after the second goal. Unluckily stayed for the third. Out the door and the fourth was in before we crossed Turton Rd. As soon as I pulled into the driveway I set fire to my game ticket to release the bad juju before entering the front door. Apologies to the missus for yelling at her.

[leftrightout]

When did we sign Archie Thompson? That many offsides I just assume he was out there for us!
Does anyone actually have the number of offsides? It was embarrassing! These guys are professionals (meant to be anyway) I understand pushing the line for an advantage but the majority of them were just so stupidly lazy! It was a real indication of the way we played

[belchardo]

When did we sign Archie Thompson? That many offsides I just assume he was out there for us!
Does anyone actually have the number of offsides? It was embarrassing! These guys are professionals (meant to be anyway) I understand pushing the line for an advantage but the majority of them were just so stupidly lazy! It was a real indication of the way we played

12 times. Unbelievable.

[380]

Shame they could not have brought the girls back on, at least they were up for it. The football that is LOL.

[Jeterpool]

12 times. Unbelievable.

13 I've counted

[hawk]

saw some highlights and our defence without boogs is warm piss. the backs maybe excluding ki should all indulge in a self bubbler

[Scourge]

Have been underwhelmed by Lee ki this season, but even with all the crap around him today he was at least busting his arse end to end to try and make something happen.

Anyone who genuinely thinks Carney is here because he likes Newcastle needs their head read... The bloke is being paid above market value and has only stuck around because he knows he wouldn't get the coin elsewhere... I've seen unfit players in all age teams make more of an effort to try and stay in the game and do something constructive in comparison to the lack of effort Carney has continually shown since we signed him.

And while the young blokes lack the skill of most of the senior blokes, at least they were continuing to make a game of it despite being hopelessly outclassed.

All in all, I'm seeing similar signs to last year... Leo was blowing up at several people, Carney is riding out the weeks for paychecks, Trif looks hopelessly outclassed and lacking an ounce of confidence, and all in all whenever we get close to the box we shit the bed and hand it over before we even attempt to do something which could be considered threatening to the opposition defence.

I won't jump on the Miller out brigade... I don't expect him to make chicken salad out of chicken shit... And considering the start to the season, he must have some potential, as we got some results against good opposition with the cluster**** of a team we seem to have now...

Let's all just sit back and hope that we can regain our 7th spot and look forward to another long offseason.

[Jetmaster]

How many of the offsides may have been down to the lack of speed releasing the ball, some of the runs were OK and just needed the ball that split second earlier.

[Jeterpool]

How many of the offsides may have been down to the lack of speed releasing the ball, some of the runs were OK and just needed the ball that split second earlier.

Totally agree.

[belchardo]

13 I've counted

12 to us, 1 to them. at least that's what the A-league app had.

[Jeterpool]

12 to us, 1 to them. at least that's what the A-league app had.

A-League website had 13 to us, 1 to them. Either way, it's be an issue for the last few weeks and there isn't much time for the team to turn around before Friday night. Maybe that's a good thing because the defeat might still be hurting or at least Miller and JP's post match blast still ringing in their ears.

I thought we started well, however. Up until the goal it was quite even and we had chances. We just didn't take them. The crowd were involved very early on which was great. We simply didn't come out of the sheds with our heads switched on in the second half and it cost us.

I was disappointed to see people leaving after 60 minutes but I think the majority of the crowd stuck around - probably because the kids got to run on the field.

[leftrightout]

How many of the offsides may have been down to the lack of speed releasing the ball, some of the runs were OK and just needed the ball that split second earlier.

It doesn't matter who's fault it was, it shows our lack of quality.

[plague]

Anyone who had December 14th in the 'when will the Jets be described as hapless in the media' pool congrats you may collect your prize.

To be fair though I thought it would have been a lot earlier than this.

[belchardo]

The crowd were involved very early on which was great.

must have had the crowd microphones down way low then, it sounded like a ghost-town on the coverage (not having a go at anybody by the way)

[Jeterpool]

must have had the crowd microphones down way low then, it sounded like a ghost-town on the coverage (not having a go at anybody by the way)

I'm talking first 5 minutes.

[cobra23]

A-League website had 13 to us, 1 to them. Either way, it's be an issue for the last few weeks and there isn't much time for the team to turn around before Friday night. Maybe that's a good thing because the defeat might still be hurting or at least Miller and JP's post match blast still ringing in their ears.

I thought we started well, however. Up until the goal it was quite even and we had chances. We just didn't take them. The crowd were involved very early on which was great. We simply didn't come out of the sheds with our heads switched on in the second half and it cost us.

I was disappointed to see people leaving after 60 minutes but I think the majority of the crowd stuck around - probably because the kids got to run on the field.

Lord Griff on fox sports news this morning saying anyone who has 13 offsides to his name is disrepectfull to his team ,coach and FANS. and stressed it is utterly lazy

[Couscous]

I just read young Bob Dillon's report on the game (http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3563352/jets-crash-to-red-hot-city/?cs=3398), and he mentioned this:


Adding to the sense of alarm are reports that defender Lee ki-Je will be returning to his native Korea in the January transfer window to join Ulsan Hyundai.

A Newcastle spokesman said no deal had been struck but Jets officials were aware of "interest" in the 24-year-old.

Lee's possible departure, combined with speculation that midfielder David Carney is considering a move to Qatar, cast a further cloud over a dark day for the Jets.

As an occasional supporter of the Jets, I was unaware of these mooted moves. They're two of my three favourite Newy players. I'll definitely switch clubs if this happens.

[weston]

Heard about Carney but not Lee Ki-Ji.

[Jeterpool]

Lord Griff on fox sports news this morning saying anyone who has 13 offsides to his name is disrepectfull to his team ,coach and FANS. and stressed it is utterly lazy

Damn straight. They were so very lazy yesterday.

Triffo has 17 so far this season, followed by Enver (8), Carney 7 and Hoffman 6

[Tommyjet]

Lord Griff on fox sports news this morning saying anyone who has 13 offsides to his name is disrepectfull to his team ,coach and FANS. and stressed it is utterly lazy

Also said we should sign mcbreen, anyone share their thoughts on that?

[cobra23]

Also said we should sign mcbreen, anyone share their thoughts on that?

We should have at the start,
I dont know how fit he is these days though,
But one things for sure is he is a hungry goal scorer.
BUT FU@K THAT..
sign GRIFF he is hungry , fast, god and is the jets.

[belchardo]

can't believe leaky is only 24.

[Mark325]

Come the end of the season we've really gotta start letting a lot of these people go.

Basically our whole front 4 can go, none of them are effective at getting anything done bar Leo but he seems to have suffered one knock thats permanently done him in.

I think Kanta can stay, him and Poljak in the middle is a good combination but **** Watson right off.

Hoffman isn't doing the worst but I doubt he's on bare minimum and as a result should go come next season, also re-sign Jackson.

Keep Birraz, best keeper we have and worth keeping a hold of

Keep: Birraz, Jackson, Kanta, Lundy
**** Off: Everyone Else

[MFKS]

Come the end of the season we've really gotta start letting a lot of these people go.

Basically our whole front 4 can go, none of them are effective at getting anything done bar Leo but he seems to have suffered one knock thats permanently done him in.

I think Kanta can stay, him and Poljak in the middle is a good combination but **** Watson right off.

Hoffman isn't doing the worst but I doubt he's on bare minimum and as a result should go come next season, also re-sign Jackson.

Keep Birraz, best keeper we have and worth keeping a hold of

Keep: Birraz, Jackson, Kanta, Lundy
**** Off: Everyone Else

So can you care to enlighten me as to why our front four can go yet you wish to keep Leo who does absolutely **** all of use and is one of the main reasons our attack is so shit in that he provides nothing that the club is paying him for as a foreign no 10


As for your thoughts on keeping Lundy. I am confused as all shit. You have given him a panning in the past based on what you have seen of him in his limited HAL opportunity's off the bench and said in your opinion you think he isn't good enough

Today you are advocating we resign him

FMD

As for your thoughts on Poljak and Kanta being good in CM maybe that is why we are constantly shit. Accepting mediocrity regularly



Quite frankly I am disgusted at that shit I watched yesterday. So ****ing heart broken to see the club dish that up before their long suffering fans. To be perfectly honest Heart were not even red hot good yesterday.

We were just lifeless in spirit effort commitment and passion.

****ing disgraceful

[plague]

Sign McBreen though.
Make the circle complete.

Unveil Griff, McBreen and Paartalus statues out the front of the stadium on Australia Day.

I'll go watch.

[The Dunster]

Quite frankly I am disgusted at that shit I watched yesterday. So ****ing heart broken to see the club dish that up before their long suffering fans. To be perfectly honest Heart were not even red hot good yesterday.

We were just lifeless in spirit effort commitment and passion.

****ing disgraceful

Carney losing the ball then staying on the ground while City countered to score their 2nd goal of the day was enough for me.

[Mark325]

So can you care to enlighten me as to why our front four can go yet you wish to keep Leo who does absolutely **** all of use and is one of the main reasons our attack is so shit in that he provides nothing that the club is paying him for as a foreign no 10


As for your thoughts on keeping Lundy. I am confused as all shit. You have given him a panning in the past based on what you have seen of him in his limited HAL opportunity's off the bench and said in your opinion you think he isn't good enough

Today you are advocating we resign him

FMD

As for your thoughts on Poljak and Kanta being good in CM maybe that is why we are constantly shit. Accepting mediocrity regularly



Quite frankly I am disgusted at that shit I watched yesterday. So ****ing heart broken to see the club dish that up before their long suffering fans. To be perfectly honest Heart were not even red hot good yesterday.

We were just lifeless in spirit effort commitment and passion.

****ing disgraceful

I think the general consensus is that we play better with Leo on the pitch. First 20-25 minutes, even as far as to their first goal we weren't necessarily playing great but we were doing more attacking and getting it to their box then in recent weeks. He's quick, beats players and a good eye for passes. He was constantly screaming at players for the ball cause he was in the right position, but we either did a late pass or a pass to the wrong player. He's a good attacking mid. He fades away but he's just come back from injury, so use him till the 65-70th and hook him, and let him get his cardio up and he can do good shit for us

On Lundy, right now he's not looked up to snuff in my opinion. He had a lot of time in the game Haliti went off injured in and didn't look the best, nor was he effective in his start in the FFA Cup game, and he's been very meh in his bench appearances. But, on the other side, he's young, local, on minimal coin and carves up the youth. His game time for first team is irregular, even as a sub he doesn't always get on the pitch. So, I see no reason to get rid of him as he has the potential to come good.

[hawk]

As an occasional supporter of the Jets, I was unaware of these mooted moves. They're two of my three favourite Newy players. I'll definitely switch clubs if this happens.

back to the gypos i guess

[hawk]

Carney losing the ball then staying on the ground while City countered to score their 2nd goal of the day was enough for me.

with keystone cops defending why should Carney bother.

And all this talk of positional change is a larf. If you move a sloth in for a goose, then a donkey over for a slug you wont change sh*t. Not that our whole squad is bad but if we can get a few more top notch players (sif) then we could start being bothered to talk positions imo. :tongue:

[lquiquer]

I asked the great (Long time Feyenoord's fan) Timmy V on FB what did he think of us signing Leo?... His answer regarding Leo's time at Feyenoord was: Yeah bit of a flop tbh.......:thumbsup: Timmy knew........

[lquiquer]

What is wrong with Enver?.....he has been terrible!!!!.....Not to mention the other Serbian!!! :facepalm:
The Macedonian has done ok, but thank god a Croatian is in the mix to help out....:lulzturtle:......but we really miss the "Albanian"....! 1221
I think we should sign a couple of Bosnians in January

[lquiquer]

If I was Carney I would take the $$$ and **** off to Qatar... And if I was Leaky I'll do the the same, can't refuse Ulsan...

[Raw Boned Youngster]

Carney and Leo are potentially dangerous with the ball, but are diabolical without it. The Jets cannot afford to have both players on the park at the same time- there is too much space in the middle of the park. The lack of energy without the ball by the entire team yesterday was really disappointing.

[hawk]

If I was Carney I would take the $$$ and **** off to Qatar... And if I was Leaky I'll do the the same, can't refuse Ulsan...

Sounds like you would also like the Jets out of top grade as well.

Anyone here who wants to retain a decent player..........nope. then fold the cvnts.

Good to see hoole is choking on Arnys sav getting stuff all game time and going nowhere. remember all those judas well wishers

signed mfks

[lquiquer]

Sounds like you would also like the Jets out of top grade as well.

Anyone here who wants to retain a decent player..........nope. then fold the cvnts.

Good to see hoole is choking on Arnys sav getting stuff all game time and going nowhere. remember all those judas well wishers

signed mfks

Sorry but FFA are not showing that they want us to stay in top grade ...!!!... We've been sold a dream (again and again) Show your players you building something solid for the future and get players interested in the project.... Quite the contrary at the moment.... #SurvivalMode

[militiamon]

lol we're terrible.

Let's face it, the team is awful and the coach most likely very average.

Our only hope of a turn around here is for a new owner to come in and inject some cash because at the moment it's like we're in PE and we're the last to pick from all the mentally handicapped leftovers and dungeons and dragons types.

[militiamon]

Sorry but FFA are not showing that they want us to stay in top grade ...!!!... We've been sold a dream (again and again) Show your players you building something solid for the future and get players interested in the project.... Quite the contrary at the moment.... #SurvivalMode

tbh even old Tinks was giving us more hope. At least his whole "Let's sack all our good and experienced players and play the young locals" was a plan, albeit a godawful one. I mean you could almost believe that maybe, just maybe Stubbins was not a total gumby, and that the kids would pay dividends eventually.

At the moment we don't have a plan, we're completely ****ed and no one seems to give a shit.

[plague]

Remember when the double eff aye made a team out of everyone's rejects and and a Japanese pensioner and you all laughed at how povo they were but they had a good coach who made them go pretty good.

Yeah, it's not the double eff ayes fault.

[Jeterpool]

It's more the fact we've stagnated with the ownership.

I think the FFA put all their eggs in the Thompson consortium basket, despite what they are saying in the media about other parties, and now we have gone to a bank to sell us.

The FFA aren't going to set a direction or make any major decisions because it may conflict with the direction a new owner wants to take and the flexibility to bring in their own marquees should they wish. That's why the club will get through on bare minimum squad, minimum numbers in the backroom and administration all to keep things ticking over until the new owner comes in.

Look at Victory, Sydney, City, Adelaide...they all want to be competitive as an organisation. The FFA ownership screams "We are just going through the motions for the season". The coaching staff, the administration and the players may want to try achieve more or set things improvements but with limited budget from the owners, granted more than it was under the other owner, they are running off an oily rag.

We simply won't compete until our ownership is sorted.

[BodyNovo]

the club is doing all the right things off the field/non squad related imo to keep 10k rocking up, it will never improve unless the results on the field pickup.

re Leo. he is by far the best player in our team, only problem is he is no where fit enough and I think miller allured to it doesn't cope with the hard Aussie pitches.

at the end off the day it is going to take 2-3 years until we are going to be competitive, we might even have to change coach 3-4 times lol.

this Friday the following needs to happen imo

- cowburn needs to start in the middle of the park
- leaky g needs to start in the front 4 and be allowed to run riot like he did when he first signed for us

i reckon on the minimum we will atleast be a little more offensive and leaky g is the best crosser off the ball in the team so he should be able to find triffs head if he stays onside

[Wilso8948]

the club is doing all the right things off the field/non squad related imo to keep 10k rocking up, it will never improve unless the results on the field pickup.

re Leo. he is by far the best player in our team, only problem is he is no where fit enough and I think miller allured to it doesn't cope with the hard Aussie pitches.

at the end off the day it is going to take 2-3 years until we are going to be competitive, we might even have to change coach 3-4 times lol.

this Friday the following needs to happen imo

- cowburn needs to start in the middle of the park
- leaky g needs to start in the front 4 and be allowed to run riot like he did when he first signed for us

i reckon on the minimum we will atleast be a little more offensive and leaky g is the best crosser off the ball in the team so he should be able to find triffs head if he stays onside

Who starts at LB if cowburn is in mids? I agree LeakyG needs to push forward but needs to be at the expense of Enver with Cowburn to start at LB as we dont have another option. Kanta pushes to mids at the expense of Watto and Boogs returns.

Still though.. Our depth sucks!

[Jeterpool]

Today has given me some perspective.

How would you feel being a Jets and Chelsea fan right now...I'd suggest about as low as Chelsea's position on the table.

[BodyNovo]

I would be more then happy for Jackson to play LB and for kanta to stay at CB

my ideas won't happen

millers is going to back his senior players especially that we have few of them

expect nothing to change other then if boogs comes in kanta to take Watson to come in.

[plague]

Today has given me some perspective.

How would you feel being a Jets and Chelsea fan right now...I'd suggest about as low as Chelsea's position on the table.

Totally predictable though I thought.
Leicesters superior squad compared to Chelsea is the reason they are winning.

Chelsea losing all those good players at the end of last year and replacing them with players clearly not of EPL standard is plain for all to see.

Leicester spent up on massive name recruits and it's paying off.

[MFKS]

I think the general consensus is that we play better with Leo on the pitch. First 20-25 minutes, even as far as to their first goal we weren't necessarily playing great but we were doing more attacking and getting it to their box then in recent weeks. He's quick, beats players and a good eye for passes. He was constantly screaming at players for the ball cause he was in the right position, but we either did a late pass or a pass to the wrong player. He's a good attacking mid. He fades away but he's just come back from injury, so use him till the 65-70th and hook him, and let him get his cardio up and he can do good shit for us

On Lundy, right now he's not looked up to snuff in my opinion. He had a lot of time in the game Haliti went off injured in and didn't look the best, nor was he effective in his start in the FFA Cup game, and he's been very meh in his bench appearances. But, on the other side, he's young, local, on minimal coin and carves up the youth. His game time for first team is irregular, even as a sub he doesn't always get on the pitch. So, I see no reason to get rid of him as he has the potential to come good.

You have just said that in your opinion Lundy hasn't looked up to it from what you have seen and that is why you base your criticism on him you then acknowledge he carves it up in the yoof and has potential and we should be sticking with him.

???

Maybe if you see his potential his age all that stuff maybe any criticism you are directing at him for not carving it up when getting minimal opportunity is ridiculously over the top and you would be best served by showing some patience understanding etc on a kid trying to make it at a shit club like ours and staying quiet on him until he has had a decent opportunity to press his claims

As for Leo enlighten me again on all these great assists he puts on and goals he scores???
Bloke has barely had a shot all season and I can't for the life of me recall many chances he has created.

Good eye for a pass?? FFS He is lucky to pick a teammate out 1 in every ****ing 5 passes. If he could find Milos occasionally we might get something happening in the front 3rd


Yeah he occasional beats a man but then what happens???............................

Yep nothing. No end product at all. No point beating 3 blokes on the wing to hoof the cross into row z is there???


Bloke is like a showbag. All glittery and shiny but ultimately full of useless crap

[MFKS]

Who starts at LB if cowburn is in mids? I agree LeakyG needs to push forward but needs to be at the expense of Enver with Cowburn to start at LB as we dont have another option. Kanta pushes to mids at the expense of Watto and Boogs returns.

Still though.. Our depth sucks!

Put Millertimes love child Watson there.

FFS He can't go any worse at Left Back than he does elsewhere on the park

[Nou Camp]

I feel our only attacking threat comes from crosses
should've kept edsen if that's our only option, he was at least 100 times better at holding up the ball

[belchardo]

I feel our only attacking threat comes from crosses
should've kept edsen if that's our only option, he was at least 100 times better at holding up the ball

god, if crosses are our only hope we truly are pants.

[Thomas477]

Carney and Enver have been pants since they swapped wings. Get em back on the proper sides and they'll go better imo.

[RAM]

Totally predictable though I thought.
Leicesters superior squad compared to Chelsea is the reason they are winning.

Chelsea losing all those good players at the end of last year and replacing them with players clearly not of EPL standard is plain for all to see.

Leicester spent up on massive name recruits and it's paying off.

:wtf:

[MFKS]

Carney and Enver have been pants since they swapped wings. Get em back on the proper sides and they'll go better imo.

Agree

Alivodic has looked shit on the left

Carney can go back on the left.

At least then Leaky will have a justified reason to not get forward

[plague]

:wtf:

Hey man, not my problem if you don't watch EPL.
Don't you have Foxtel?

[Nou Camp]

god, if crosses are our only hope we truly are pants.

do we have figures on how many of our goals have come from crosses or set pieces
can think of a few straight of the bat

jeterpool care to elaborate

[Jeterpool]

do we have figures on how many of our goals have come from crosses or set pieces
can think of a few straight of the bat

jeterpool care to elaborate

Sorry mate. Not got that info.

[Nou Camp]

Sorry mate. Not got that info.

all good just did a quick run through of the goals
of the 9 goals I count 8 that are involved a cross or set piece
very worrying that's our only option...

I cant remember how we scored the first against wellington so may even be all 9

[Jeterpool]

all good just did a quick run through of the goals
of the 9 goals I count 8 that are involved a cross or set piece
very worrying that's our only option...

I cant remember how we scored the first against wellington so may even be all 9

A cross and Carney at the near post.

[Nou Camp]

A cross and Carney at the near post.

well there you go
sign up jan koller or peter crouch....

[MFKS]

A cross and Carney at the near post.

It was a deflected cross.

No use skewering stats and claiming we meant it to make out we know what we are doing

[Jeterpool]

It was a deflected cross.

No use skewering stats and claiming we meant it to make out we know what we are doing

Regardless it was still from open play

[Mark325]

You have just said that in your opinion Lundy hasn't looked up to it from what you have seen and that is why you base your criticism on him you then acknowledge he carves it up in the yoof and has potential and we should be sticking with him.

???

Maybe if you see his potential his age all that stuff maybe any criticism you are directing at him for not carving it up when getting minimal opportunity is ridiculously over the top and you would be best served by showing some patience understanding etc on a kid trying to make it at a shit club like ours and staying quiet on him until he has had a decent opportunity to press his claims

As for Leo enlighten me again on all these great assists he puts on and goals he scores???
Bloke has barely had a shot all season and I can't for the life of me recall many chances he has created.

Good eye for a pass?? FFS He is lucky to pick a teammate out 1 in every ****ing 5 passes. If he could find Milos occasionally we might get something happening in the front 3rd


Yeah he occasional beats a man but then what happens???............................

Yep nothing. No end product at all. No point beating 3 blokes on the wing to hoof the cross into row z is there???


Bloke is like a showbag. All glittery and shiny but ultimately full of useless crap

Both are facts, he blew no one away and looked average to bad in the senior but looks great in the youth. If you can absolutely carve up in the youth then you have potential, and although his game time for the senior hasn't shown that potential, it has been irregular game time that doesn't allow him to gain any form. You can't just have no say on him till after he gets consistent game time, doesn't happen like that. After the game, you say what you saw, and what everyone saw was a youth player who played average to bad. But, like I said, he is carving in the youth, is local and is on minimal coin so why would we not get him back.

The guys only played like 3-4 games, in those games he played have been the games which we showed the most attacking intent, at least in my opinion.

Rarely does a pass go to Milos... But it always tends to go out wide which is the style we have been playing and more then likely what he's been told to do by our coach so in that sense he is playing to our game plan. He is good on his feet, beats players and then plays out wide to someone like Carney and Enver.

[hawk]

Sorry but FFA are not showing that they want us to stay in top grade ...!!!... We've been sold a dream (again and again) Show your players you building something solid for the future and get players interested in the project.... Quite the contrary at the moment.... #SurvivalMode

agree

But im a trifle (yum) tired of peeps wishing our best players well when they leave. Need to keep them here and build on them. stupid dreams

[parksey]

people who are saying we don't have a good enough team are having a laugh

sure we are light up front but we've got a lot of quality in the squad

it just seems obvious that we've spent a whole pre-season on defensive structure

we have no structure going forward at all, and our players seem confused when they cross the half-way line

[lquiquer]

a lot of quality in the squad


You talking about the yoof team aren't you?

[militiamon]

Parksey I was going to write a response to your last post but then I read the Stubbins quote in your sig.
Lol.

PS the team is honking, coach most likely honking.

[plague]

people who are saying we don't have a good enough team are having a laugh

sure we are light up front but we've got a lot of quality in the squad

it just seems obvious that we've spent a whole pre-season on defensive structure

we have no structure going forward at all, and our players seem confused when they cross the half-way line

Parksey makes plenty of sense here.
You blokes should pay attention to him.

[hawk]

get out boyfriends