Daily Australian News Thread 2016

[ForeverRed]

His motive behind owning local sporting teams was to suck people in to believe we needed a fourth coal loader,

[plague]

His motive behind owning local sporting teams was to suck people in to believe we needed a fourth coal loader,

like the people of Newy had any say in the matter.




You guys.

[hawk]

enough of that phat douche machine, jets are back babay, back up to 7th

[plague]

enough of that phat douche machine, jets are back babay, back up to 7th

Hawk ain't wearing no tin foil hat.
I'm falling in line behind him.
Let's go Jets, let's go 7th.
Get aboard you blokes.

[turbojetfireV8]

I'll give the phat khunt-roller credit for two things only (Galaxy aint one of them, what a waste of money :wanker: ) - 1. Heskey, 2. cinnamon and emerald awaay shirts - on the second though he can go phuck himself for giving us the bane of having to deal with BLK, how soon can we ditch those pricks???

[skullboy]

I still subscribe to the theory Tinkler only took on the Jets to get his ultimate prize, the Knights. All the grandstanding and splashing the cash on stuff like the Galaxy game etc was done to impress the Knights with his spending power and secure that deal. Unfortunately for us, the NRL were more cautious than FFA and p*ssed him off a bit quicker but once he lost his baby he pretty much spat the dummy and wanted to offload us, just wasn't cluey enough to know how - ended up losing us which is ironic seeing as he at one stage tried to hand us back only to find that he couldn't...

Spot on.

His ONLY interest in the Jets was to make the dumbass Boganball community in Newcastle think "What a great guy, true novocastrian - let's just give him the knights bogans on a platter".
The initial cash splash on LA Galaxy was just a faux statement that he hoped would also make money. The "investment" in the Jets dried up very quickly after that.

If he had any business nous at all he would have realised the opportunities for sponsorship/partnerships from China. His business was mining in a period where there was still a HUGE amount of money in that sector and China was where the bulk of our coal was going. Need a new coal loader??? And yet he did not take advantage of these opportunities because that was not his focus.

Lee/Ledman group seem to have a sensible, sustainable business plan which involves a considerable amount of Chinese money coming into the club via sponsorship, online streaming of games,etc. The group has a solid history of investing in football globally and I hope they get the global/community mix right, plus get results on the park.

[Jetmaster]

If he had any business nous at all he would have realised the opportunities for sponsorship/partnerships from China. His business was mining in a period where there was still a HUGE amount of money in that sector and China was where the bulk of our coal was going. Need a new coal loader??? And yet he did not take advantage of these opportunities because that was not his focus.


^^ Sooo this. Been saying this for three years, any mining magnate worth his salt would identify the synergies between football, China and mining. Tinks did not either see it or could not be half-arsed as it meant co-operation. And like Con everything had to be under his total control. We could have set up long term partnerships and when the time was right Tinks coulda sold it (and a mine) to a Chinese billionaire.


On a lighter note - nice little slideshow when you kick back with a coffee today...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3967641/throwback-thursday-jets-a-league-premiership-win-2008-photos/?cs=305#slide=12

[Jeterpool]

I'll give the phat khunt-roller credit for two things only (Galaxy aint one of them, what a waste of money :wanker: ) - 1. Heskey, 2. cinnamon and emerald awaay shirts - on the second though he can go phuck himself for giving us the bane of having to deal with BLK, how soon can we ditch those pricks???

This is our last season with them under the current contract.

The member's sub-committee have told the club the material is crap and the club should look at a better manufacturer.

[GazFish35]

This is our last season with them - under the current contract

The member's sub-committee have told the club the material is crap and the club should look at a better manufacturer.

fixed.
I'm not convinced they wont go with them again if the $$$ is right

[Grimario]

fixed.
I'm not convinced they wont go with them again if the $$$ is right

You reckon? I would be more inclined to think they would go with a recognised football brand, maybe even the one that sponsors their Chinese team or one that has links to the Portuguese divisions.

[StannyCFCJET]

Who else is out there kit sponsor wise besides the usual Nike, Adidas and Umbro that would work with the jets

[Jeterpool]

fixed.
I'm not convinced they wont go with them again if the $$$ is right

Thanks

[Grimario]

Who else is out there kit sponsor wise besides the usual Nike, Adidas and Umbro that would work with the jets

Forget the Jets. Who out there would want to work with a company sponsoring entire leagues and owning multiple teams across multiple countries?

[StannyCFCJET]

Forget the Jets. Who out there would want to work with a company sponsoring entire leagues and owning multiple teams across multiple countries?

if your referring to Mr Lee doesn't he only own the jets and a second division Chinese team? I know he sponsors the Portuguese second division but didnt think he had a team there

[Grimario]

if your referring to Mr Lee doesn't he only own the jets and a second division Chinese team? I know he sponsors the Portuguese second division but didnt think he had a team there

I could be wrong but I was sure two counted as "multiple" ;)

[StannyCFCJET]

I could be wrong but I was sure two counted as "multiple" ;)

pretty sure you are correct and i have had a derp moment :confused:

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Novillo has left Melbourne City to a Turkish 2nd division team fro $500,000.

[leftrightout]

Novillo has left Melbourne City to a Turkish 2nd division team fro $500,000.

Great player but had some off field dramas at the back end of last year. There wasn't too much media attention on it though... i never really heard what had happened.

[Grimario]

Great player but had some off field dramas at the back end of last year. There wasn't too much media attention on it though... i never really heard what had happened.

Unsure if sarcasm :gent:

http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/police-detain-melbourne-city-star-harry-novillo-over-altercation-with-partner-20160216-gmvfeo
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/star-recruit-harry-novillo-hit-with-training-ban-as-melbourne-city-investigate-alleged-altercation/news-story/f3778d72964798863b44c2274ae3d36b
https://twitter.com/FOXSportsNews/status/700577200425177088


Surprising he had to move to Turkey. That kind of behaviour is allegedly much more accepted at Victory, right?

[leftrightout]

Unsure if sarcasm :gent:

http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/police-detain-melbourne-city-star-harry-novillo-over-altercation-with-partner-20160216-gmvfeo
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/star-recruit-harry-novillo-hit-with-training-ban-as-melbourne-city-investigate-alleged-altercation/news-story/f3778d72964798863b44c2274ae3d36b
https://twitter.com/FOXSportsNews/status/700577200425177088


Surprising he had to move to Turkey. That kind of behaviour is allegedly much more accepted at Victory, right?

Not sarcastic. Journos in this country usually take shit like that a run a mile when it comes to slamming football in this country. Do you actually know the outcome though? It wasn't really that widely reported.
It is the first time i think i can say, if that was a Rugby League player it would have been much bigger news.

[Grimario]

Not sarcastic. Journos in this country usually take shit like that a run a mile when it comes to slamming football in this country. Do you actually know the outcome though? It wasn't really that widely reported.
It is the first time i think i can say, if that was a Rugby League player it would have been much bigger news.

Wonder if that has something to do with the fact that MC immediately stood him down while investigating and, despite no charges, still suspended him. They were pretty swift in their actions and it didn't drag out at all.

In boganball land, the response from the club would surely be "Ah yeah but boys will be boys right? He had a few too many beers and didn't mean no harm by it. And anyway, she made a comment about his soft tackle so it wasn't unprovoked". Or something.

[borat]

Wonder if that has something to do with the fact that MC immediately stood him down while investigating and, despite no charges, still suspended him. They were pretty swift in their actions and it didn't drag out at all.

In boganball land, the response from the club would surely be "Ah yeah but boys will be boys right? He had a few too many beers and didn't mean no harm by it. And anyway, she made a comment about his soft tackle so it wasn't unprovoked". Or something.

Or compared to the Jets.........:whistling:

[Local Rules]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3988874/former-adelaide-united-coach-josep-gombau-in-talks-with-ffa-to-oversee-olyroos/?cs=2439

This would be an interesting development. Also note the last paragraph where Iraq are playing Perth Glory in a warm up. Pretty good opposition for a pre season trial.

[lquiquer]

Perf got their new keeper

[Jetmaster]

The "City want to sign Tim Cahill Rule" has been approved...

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/guest-player-spot-approved-for-201617-a-league-season/1luwattgtyriy1bk0fhm8wiunq

[leftrightout]

The "City want to sign Tim Cahill Rule" has been approved...

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/guest-player-spot-approved-for-201617-a-league-season/1luwattgtyriy1bk0fhm8wiunq

I know people see it as rich clubs getting the best deal but hell im all for it. The more big names here the better... its all good publicity for our sport!

[MFKS]

I know people see it as rich clubs getting the best deal but hell im all for it. The more big names here the better... its all good publicity for our sport!

Totally disagree.

Clubs can have a Marquee and an Aussie Marquee outside the cap.

We are already seeing a comp with the haves and have nots

Some clubs can't even find a marquee so why should a club be allowed a 3rd??

Heart have the cash yes but should have been made to fit him in under the other 2 marquee slots

All you will see now is Smurfs GLORY wsw and Victree exploiting this loop hole more and more further widening the gap between us Gypos nix etc

[Grimario]

Some clubs can't even find a marquee so why should a club be allowed a 3rd??


:lulz:

As if clubs don't have marquee's because they can't FIND them.

[leftrightout]

Totally disagree.

Clubs can have a Marquee and an Aussie Marquee outside the cap.

We are already seeing a comp with the haves and have nots

Some clubs can't even find a marquee so why should a club be allowed a 3rd??

Heart have the cash yes but should have been made to fit him in under the other 2 marquee slots

All you will see now is Smurfs GLORY wsw and Victree exploiting this loop hole more and more further widening the gap between us Gypos nix etc

When has a team with the biggest marquees actually won the competition?
Do they really create a gap in the competition? I don't think they really do.
Think of the big names we have had here...

Dwight Yorke
Robbie Fowler
Heskey
Del Piero
Ono

Of the Aussies
Kewell
Culina
Kennedy
Emerton

Not many titles among that group!

This is for big names, bums on seats players. I think the good publicity and attendances will far out weigh the "gap" caused.

[StannyCFCJET]

James Troisi DO IT JETS

[Guerny]

The "City want to sign Tim Cahill Rule" has been approved...

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/guest-player-spot-approved-for-201617-a-league-season/1luwattgtyriy1bk0fhm8wiunq

The “Melb City wants to steal the sky blue strip from Sydney” rule is also official (although this one is at least funny).

[Roundball Enthusiast]

When has a team with the biggest marquees actually won the competition?
Do they really create a gap in the competition? I don't think they really do.
Think of the big names we have had here...

Dwight Yorke
Robbie Fowler
Heskey
Del Piero
Ono

Of the Aussies
Kewell
Culina
Kennedy
Emerton

Not many titles among that group!

This is for big names, bums on seats players. I think the good publicity and attendances will far out weigh the "gap" caused.

And when did any of these actually bring extra bums, besides maybe Del Piero?

Last year was great for attendance, and we had no big names. The game will grow itself, without short term players.

[StannyCFCJET]

And when did any of these actually bring extra bums, besides maybe Del Piero?

Last year was great for attendance, and we had no big names. The game will grow itself, without short term players.

didnt heskey increase our attendence numbers his first year? and pretty sure dwight yorke was pretty big season one

[Roundball Enthusiast]

didnt heskey increase our attendence numbers his first year? and pretty sure dwight yorke was pretty big season one

We got big numbers because we were the cheapest in the league and had a new owner who promised the world. Hardly because of Heskey.

[Grimario]

We got big numbers because we were the cheapest in the league and had a new owner who promised the world. Hardly because of Heskey.

Nah. I had people at work going to games purely because Emile Heskey was playing for the Jets.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Nah. I had people at work going to games purely because Emile Heskey was playing for the Jets.

I'm sure all those bandwagon fans knew exactly who Emile was and what he had done over seas. :gent:

[StannyCFCJET]

Nah. I had people at work going to games purely because Emile Heskey was playing for the Jets.

surely more liverpool fans turned up

[Grimario]

I'm sure all those bandwagon fans knew exactly who Emile was and what he had done over seas. :gent:
Exactly... but you are saying that Emile had nothing to do with our increased crowds? :wtf:

surely more liverpool fans turned up
Yep. Few of them were exactly that. No interest in Jerks until William Ivanhoe showed up.

[Jeterpool]

http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1292&d=1467075952

[MFKS]

And when did any of these actually bring extra bums, besides maybe Del Piero?

Last year was great for attendance, and we had no big names. The game will grow itself, without short term players.

Harry Kewell in his season at Victree also had an impact on bums on seats.

Other than that there was **** all difference

Timmy will do the same


I have no dramas with Heart signing Timmy.

I just take offence to this 3rd Marquee situation that is being created.

Either fit him or one of the other Marquee under the cap and reduce the overall quality of their squad.


What upsets me is given time the bigger clubs will exploit this at the detriment of the league's balance.

Whilst we have a salary capped league this is making it more of a farce.


A club with excessive Money should be investing into club infrastructure and juniors to make clubs stronger and give them a competitive advantage over their rivals

Not frittered away on player wages by giving them a better squad

[lil_masi]

Mooy wont be there next season anyway, so why make the change?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1292&d=1467075952

An increase of an average 1,200 bums? Hardly pin point that to just Emile..

2012/2013 was a decent year for results early on. Could also contribute extra bums to that..
2012/2013 was also the year WSW was added to the league, bringing their masses to away games..


My point is, Marquees should be, what the "Season Guest player" is.. A named player who will increase exposure and bring people to the stadium. We don't need the "Season Guest Player", just so 1 or 2 teams can use all the extra cash they have to make more cash.

Yes, its good for the league, in the short term, but its not good for the league long term, when you end up with the "haves" and the "have nots"...

[leftrightout]

I don't get the hate of "bandwagon fans".
These are the people we need to bring into see our game, for whatever reason, and enjoy it so much that they become loyal fans.

[sammydog]

I have no dramas with Heart signing Timmy.

I just take offence to this 3rd Marquee situation that is being created.

Either fit him or one of the other Marquee under the cap and reduce the overall quality of their squad.


What upsets me is given time the bigger clubs will exploit this at the detriment of the league's balance.

Whilst we have a salary capped league this is making it more of a farce.


A club with excessive Money should be investing into club infrastructure and juniors to make clubs stronger and give them a competitive advantage over their rivals

Not frittered away on player wages by giving them a better squad

Agree completely. It makes a complete mockery of the Salary cap to introduce a third marquee (when most clubs cant afford one) just to appease a club and one player.

Fit them in, move a lesser marquee on or play within the rules. Don't change them just because one club is cashed up.

Sure Timmy will be great for the league, but the long term implications will be a greater divide between the big and little clubs.

[Grimario]

I for one welcome a greater divide between the big and little clubs. The ones with the stupid amounts of money SHOULD spend it and improve the quality of their squads.

I vote for abolishing the celery cap.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

https://twitter.com/Elia_Santoro/status/747603936031346690

Here it comes, the news we already know :P

[Grimario]

https://twitter.com/Elia_Santoro/status/747603936031346690

Here it comes, the news we already know :P

Good to $ee the FFA now $haring in Timmeh'$ vi$ion

[The Camel]

I for one welcome a greater divide between the big and little clubs. The ones with the stupid amounts of money SHOULD spend it and improve the quality of their squads.

I vote for abolishing the celery cap.

I tend to agree. It is no good that the league is run to be only as strong as the weakest club but restricting the have's too far. If we want the league to grow, we need more bums on seats, more tv money both here and abroad and by having the wealthier clubs spending coin on more name players that is one way that will happen, this should in theory flow onto everyone else with more money available in the game. Life is not always fair and if clubs cannot be run effectively then the whole league should not suffer

[Grimario]

I tend to agree. It is no good that the league is run to be only as strong as the weakest club but restricting the have's too far. If we want the league to grow, we need more bums on seats, more tv money both here and abroad and by having the wealthier clubs spending coin on more name players that is one way that will happen, this should in theory flow onto everyone else with more money available in the game. Life is not always fair and if clubs cannot be run effectively then the whole league should not suffer

Everyone always goes "oh but if you abolish the cap, club's will go bankrupt"... but clubs are already doing that. What will happen is the club's that don't want to overspend won't. They will have NPL calibre players and they will finish dead last. How is that different to last season with the exception that the NPL calibre player's got paid well over their worth by the scum?

[lil_masi]

If fornaroli stays, what position would cahill play?

[Jeterpool]

If fornaroli stays, what position would cahill play?

Merchandise and social media manager

[The Dunster]

I tend to agree. It is no good that the league is run to be only as strong as the weakest club but restricting the have's too far. If we want the league to grow, we need more bums on seats, more tv money both here and abroad and by having the wealthier clubs spending coin on more name players that is one way that will happen, this should in theory flow onto everyone else with more money available in the game. Life is not always fair and if clubs cannot be run effectively then the whole league should not suffer

Why stop there ? Why not remove the restrictions on foreign players as well and force the Aussies to either get better or miss out on playing in the A-league.

[Grimario]

Why stop there ? Why not remove the restrictions on foreign players as well and force the Aussies to either get better or miss out on playing in the A-league.

All for it.

[monz6]

I don't get the hate of "bandwagon fans".
These are the people we need to bring into see our game, for whatever reason, and enjoy it so much that they become loyal fans.

100% agree with this. I've written a longer more ranty post in regards to this before. 100 people who have forum accounts (unsure of correct total) can't keep the club running. If a bunch of people started coming Because of Hesky for eg I'm glad they did and I hope they are still part of the 8000 odd who turn up each week

[monz6]

I don't get the hate of "bandwagon fans".
These are the people we need to bring into see our game, for whatever reason, and enjoy it so much that they become loyal fans.


100% agree with this. I've written a longer more ranty post in regards to this before. 100 people who have forum accounts (unsure of correct total) can't keep the club running. If a bunch of people started coming Because of Hesky for eg I'm glad they did and I hope they are still part of the 8000 odd who turn up each week

Further, I reckon if you want to be a person who claims they're a better fan than someone else for some reason or another you should consider travelling to pirtek stadium in red and black each week

[Grimario]

100% agree with this. I've written a longer more ranty post in regards to this before. 100 people who have forum accounts (unsure of correct total) can't keep the club running. If a bunch of people started coming Because of Hesky for eg I'm glad they did and I hope they are still part of the 8000 odd who turn up each week

Members 1,147 Active Members 394

I don't know how many of those 394 post, assuming active just means logging in. Also possible that a heap only post in local football and have SFA interest in the Jerks.

[monz6]

I don't get the hate of "bandwagon fans".
These are the people we need to bring into see our game, for whatever reason, and enjoy it so much that they become loyal fans.


100% agree with this. I've written a longer more ranty post in regards to this before. 100 people who have forum accounts (unsure of correct total) can't keep the club running. If a bunch of people started coming Because of Hesky for eg I'm glad they did and I hope they are still part of the 8000 odd who turn up each week


Members 1,147 Active Members 394

I don't know how many of those 394 post, assuming active just means logging in. Also possible that a heap only post in local football and have SFA interest in the Jerks.

Brilliant Thankyou. I did mean the hundred or so people who have forums accounts and post in the jets section. No suprise there's more than 100 with accounts

[Grimario]

Brilliant Thankyou. I did mean the hundred or so people who have forums accounts and post in the jets section. No suprise there's more than 100 with accounts

People on here aren't a good indication of the club or even attendance. I've been to one game at Stade de Newy in over 2 years. plague always watches from a casino when we win and only shows up when we lose. There are people that live in other countries that post here regularly(ish).

[Roundball Enthusiast]

People on here aren't a good indication of the club or even attendance. I've been to one game at Stade de Newy in over 2 years. plague always watches from a casino when we win and only shows up when we lose. There are people that live in other countries that post here regularly(ish).

As much as we'd like it to be, Adelaide isn't another country...:lulzturtle:

[Grimario]

As much as we'd like it to be, Adelaide isn't another country...:lulzturtle:

Who says I am in Adelaide, hmm? :brrr:

[Grimario]

PS, pv4, come to Newcastle DG league day at Rathmines this Sunday.

[q-money]

i'm a firm believer that you earn the right to bitch about the team only if you purchase the cheapest membership you can charge to your wife's credit card without her noticing

[plague]

Members 1,147 Active Members 394


To be fair though there's only like 8 real people on here the rest are multis.

[plague]

plague always watches from a casino when we win and only shows up when we lose.

Speaking of which I've gotta start planning some holidays.
When does the draw come out ****ern?

Cmon Middleby, do your job and announce this shit.

[Jeterpool]

To be fair though there's only like 8 real people on here the rest are multis.

I'm actually one of the Member's multis.

[Grimario]

I'm actually one of the Member's multis.

And I am one of Jeterpool's multis.


Multiception.

[belchardo]

I thought we were all the members multis. doesn't the world exist so he can have somebody to argue with?

[MFKS]

I tend to agree. It is no good that the league is run to be only as strong as the weakest club but restricting the have's too far. If we want the league to grow, we need more bums on seats, more tv money both here and abroad and by having the wealthier clubs spending coin on more name players that is one way that will happen, this should in theory flow onto everyone else with more money available in the game. Life is not always fair and if clubs cannot be run effectively then the whole league should not suffer

The stronger clubs already have an advantage with the 2 Marquee system anyway.

The weaker clubs can go put someone on 300-500k outside the cap

The stronger clubs can put their money on a player and put someone on 1-2 million outside the cap

Build your club well and you can still up that to 3-4 million


That is giving a sizable advantage to those bigger clubs anyway as they are looking at better calibre of Marquees than the weaker clubs


Add in the fact that how do you determine well run clubs.

Victree in a city of 5 million have 20k of Members after years of success. To me they are still underachieving and should have bigger crowds but as the biggest club have an advantage
Perth and Heart are not well run clubs either and have the advantages based on their owners deep pockets

Smurfs are a basket case propped up by wealthy owners
WSW are well run but should have more members than they do considering their success and catchment area

Here you go you have clubs with significant advantages already they have not earned but are enjoying the fruits of as they have a wealthy owner or are based in large cities

Opportunities that are denied to a club like Adelaide who is well run as an example

[hawk]

If fornaroli stays, what position would cahill play?

Where ever he wants. He is boss of ffa

[Beeen]

Ah the old trickle down economics myth...

[Couscous]

I don't get the hate of "bandwagon fans".

Thank you for defending us. Repped.

[De-Champ]

The stronger clubs already have an advantage with the 2 Marquee system anyway.

The weaker clubs can go put someone on 300-500k outside the cap

The stronger clubs can put their money on a player and put someone on 1-2 million outside the cap

Build your club well and you can still up that to 3-4 million


That is giving a sizable advantage to those bigger clubs anyway as they are looking at better calibre of Marquees than the weaker clubs


Add in the fact that how do you determine well run clubs.

Victree in a city of 5 million have 20k of Members after years of success. To me they are still underachieving and should have bigger crowds but as the biggest club have an advantage
Perth and Heart are not well run clubs either and have the advantages based on their owners deep pockets

Smurfs are a basket case propped up by wealthy owners
WSW are well run but should have more members than they do considering their success and catchment area

Here you go you have clubs with significant advantages already they have not earned but are enjoying the fruits of as they have a wealthy owner or are based in large cities

Opportunities that are denied to a club like Adelaide who is well run as an example
WSW would have more members if they removed the cap on them.
A big city club is always going to have an advantage over the regional clubs no matter what system you have.
Interesting you say Perth owners have deep pockets. They have a trylu "soccer" person in Sage.
Adelaide well run??? it was only a couple of years ago the current owner wanted to sell and get out. ( I am not convinced he still wants to own the club)

[tomo]

Speaking of which I've gotta start planning some holidays.
When does the draw come out ****ern?

Cmon Middleby, do your job and announce this shit.

The draw was released about 3 weeks ago

[tomo]

The beard is all but sealed for Sydney! Disappointing!

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/06/28/sydney-fc-continue-revamp-brillante

[turbojetfireV8]

The beard is all but sealed for Sydney! Disappointing!

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/06/28/sydney-fc-continue-revamp-brillante

so we get Hoole and they get Brilliante - pretty sure they won out on that one...

[StannyCFCJET]

The beard is all but sealed for Sydney! Disappointing!

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/06/28/sydney-fc-continue-revamp-brillante

FFS as soon as it was hinted he was free shouldve gone for him better than all our CMs besides Ugar

[plague]

But surely that now means Steve Lustica is ours right?

[StannyCFCJET]

But surely that now means Steve Lustica is ours right?

he signed for WSW a while back

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

FFS as soon as it was hinted he was free shouldve gone for him better than all our CMs besides Ugar

Easier said than done (ie/ gotta shift some players before you can do that etc).
And the Beard is miles ahead of Ugar. Shame he is going to the Smurfs.

[StannyCFCJET]

Easier said than done (ie/ gotta shift some players before you can do that etc).
And the Beard is miles ahead of Ugar. Shame he is going to the Smurfs.

i disagree the Beard nver showed the passing ability Ugar has shown

[Grimario]

Striker for us?

https://www.facebook.com/RodaJCKerkrade/photos/a.114952705201682.11043.114931671870452/1228628263834115/?type=3&theater

Some bloke called Tomi Juric.

[lquiquer]

i disagree the Beard nver showed the passing ability Ugar has shown

I agree with StannyCFCJET

[RAM]

Striker for us?

https://www.facebook.com/RodaJCKerkrade/photos/a.114952705201682.11043.114931671870452/1228628263834115/?type=3&theater

Some bloke called Tomi Juric.

Ethnic Matt Simon imo.

[StannyCFCJET]

Plus the beard and Ugar are different types of players. i see the beard as a box to box midfielder and Ugar as a deep lying playmaker

[plague]

he signed for WSW a while back

Oh man.
That's terrible news.
It's good though. Venables is still in play. Right?

[Couscous]

Ethnic Matt Simon imo.

Deserved more

[stopper2]

Plus the beard and Ugar are different types of players. i see the beard as a box to box midfielder and Ugar as a deep lying playmaker
This

Can't compare apples and oranges. Still think that given the opportunities Brillante would make a good #10, played that role for us away up in Brisbane for a decent period of the game in season 13/14, memories a bit blurry but he either scored or set up the winner.

[Frodo]

Striker for us?

https://www.facebook.com/RodaJCKerkrade/photos/a.114952705201682.11043.114931671870452/1228628263834115/?type=3&theater

Some bloke called Tomi Juric.

Holy crap, i just translated some of the comments. Haha. Gold.


dikke doei lamzak
Fat bye douche bag


Postzegel op z'n kont en weg sturen
Stamp on his butt and send away

[hawk]

i disagree the Beard nver showed the passing ability Ugar has shown

his defending wasnt that great either. Maybe age has improved him.

[stopper2]

his defending wasnt that great either. Maybe age has improved him.

That season when he came into RB for the injured Neville, i thought he ended up being our most consistent player of the season.
Don't really recall him looking out of place in defence.

[plague]

Pepz has left the Wanderers
Bring him home Middleby.

[StannyCFCJET]

Pepz has left the Wanderers
Bring him home Middleby.

Nice Joke

[tomo]

Nice Joke

Would've MUCH preferred Pepper over some on the boneheads in the team last year... Eg Watson

[plague]

Nice Joke
Who's joking?

Middleby missed the chance to sign Lustica.
Asleep at the wheel again missing another big name.

[StannyCFCJET]

Would've MUCH preferred Pepper over some on the boneheads in the team last year... Eg Watson

pepper isnt much better than watson

[tomo]

So has the criteria for the FFA Cup draw changed this year??
Why do the Jets play last years winners, but the Mariners get Green Gully? We didnt get a non A-League team after getting the spoon last year, so why should they?
I thought the bottom 4 or 6 A-League teams play against each other, and one side of the draw is rigged so that a non A-League team is guarantee'd a semi final?

[football_macigian23]

So has the criteria for the FFA Cup draw changed this year??
Why do the Jets play last years winners, but the Mariners get Green Gully? We didnt get a non A-League team after getting the spoon last year, so why should they?
I thought the bottom 4 or 6 A-League teams play against each other, and one side of the draw is rigged so that a non A-League team is guarantee'd a semi final?

They announced the change earlier this week.. All A-league teams went together

[tomo]

They announced the change earlier this week.. All A-league teams went together

Aaah ok, i must've missed that!
Dont have a link?

[Fairgo]

Aaah ok, i must've missed that!
Dont have a link?

http://www.theffacup.com.au/article/draw-re-vamped-for-2016-westfield-ffa-cup/1jd7tvvrqsl9r19j49c0p3hk1d#Bs7C1XIAMEOMekTO.99

[MFKS]

So has the criteria for the FFA Cup draw changed this year??
Why do the Jets play last years winners, but the Mariners get Green Gully? We didnt get a non A-League team after getting the spoon last year, so why should they?
I thought the bottom 4 or 6 A-League teams play against each other, and one side of the draw is rigged so that a non A-League team is guarantee'd a semi final?

No surprise the rules get changed and Smurfs FC get a non HAL side.

Rigged or what???

[hawk]

Lets just lose then not worry

[MFKS]

So now that Heart have managed to get rid of Mooy just a day or two after they won with their plan to get a 3rd Marquee why are they not being told to put Timmy in as a Marquee and sticking to Two Marquees??

Also I find the timing of Mooys departure a rather sad reflection on the Heart.

They could have easily moved Mooy on and brought Timmy in and kept the 2 Marquee situation


Looks to me the politics of tampering with the salary cap were more of a factor than any great desire to bring Timmy home

[The Camel]

So now that Heart have managed to get rid of Mooy just a day or two after they won with their plan to get a 3rd Marquee why are they not being told to put Timmy in as a Marquee and sticking to Two Marquees??

Also I find the timing of Mooys departure a rather sad reflection on the Heart.

They could have easily moved Mooy on and brought Timmy in and kept the 2 Marquee situation


Looks to me the politics of tampering with the salary cap were more of a factor than any great desire to bring Timmy home

They upgraded Bruno already and it's been widely reported that they've already signed a 2nd marquee but the announcement wouldn't be until Mooy left

[tomo]

I just read that FFA wont help the Roar out with $300,000 out of their fund to sign Brett Holman because they want to use most, if not all, to help City sign Cahill. What a fvckin joke!

[Jetmaster]

I just read that FFA wont help the Roar out with $300,000 out of their fund to sign Brett Holman because they want to use most, if not all, to help City sign Cahill. What a fvckin joke!

If that is true it would set a dangerous precedent - we could offer Messi a squillion and run to FFA saying, you can pay for it, look at the benefits to the A-League.

Can see Mooy coming back in January as said "guest" after Timmy becomes marquee two.

[Couscous]

I just read that FFA wont help the Roar out with $300,000 out of their fund to sign Brett Holman because they want to use most, if not all, to help City sign Cahill. What a fvckin joke!

Why?

Cahill may bring in extra crowds (though I'm unconvinced the effect will be significant). Holman will not bring in extra crowds. Given that the FFA's spending here is essentially marketing, what's wrong with spending on Cahill over Holman?

[The Dunster]

Why?

Cahill may bring in extra crowds (though I'm unconvinced the effect will be significant). Holman will not bring in extra crowds. Given that the FFA's spending here is essentially marketing, what's wrong with spending on Cahill over Holman?

I think Harry Kewell at MV did ok marketing wise but at City [Heart] not so great. I'd expect Timmy to generate less interest than Kewell but for a much larger chunk of cash.

Holman you'd buy for what he offers on the park not off it - So anythng more than 450k would be ridiculous.

[The Dunster]

So now that Heart have managed to get rid of Mooy just a day or two after they won with their plan to get a 3rd Marquee why are they not being told to put Timmy in as a Marquee and sticking to Two Marquees??

Also I find the timing of Mooys departure a rather sad reflection on the Heart.

They could have easily moved Mooy on and brought Timmy in and kept the 2 Marquee situation


Looks to me the politics of tampering with the salary cap were more of a factor than any great desire to bring Timmy home

I wouldn't be suprised if Mooy comes back to Melb City on some bullshit loan deal to make sure the Timmy experiment works.

[baldrick]

I wouldn't be suprised if Mooy comes back to Melb City on some bullshit loan deal to make sure the Timmy experiment works.

Spot on, Mooy will be playing in the a-league this season..

[MFKS]

Explain to me why Mooy will be playing in the HAL??

If the plan was for him to play for Heart then why he sign for Man City??

Being Heart are owned by City if the plan is to push his development along then nothing stopping him heading to Manchester and training with City. Being the HAL doesn't start until October he could skip Heart pre season and just train with Man City until then

Why go to the hassle of transfering him to Man City only to loan him back??

Up until a few days ago they had him as a Marquee and could pay him as much as they want and could also bring in the 3rd Marquee due to the rule change

I will offer he has only been moved to Man City with the express intention of having him train at City for a bit before getting loaned out to someone with the intention of getting a Transfer Fee for him

Reality is Aaron Mooy of Man City goes for much more money than Aaron Mooy of Melbourne Heart when a Euro Club offers coin.
This move is just a restructuring of assets for the City Group to maximise profit

The bloke ain't playing EPL under Pep and he ain't coming back to Heart this year.
A year or two proving he can do it in Europe and the City Group get more coin for his transfer

The bloke has just been used as a pawn by City to exploit this 3rd Marquee rule that has come in.
Heart will not be bringing him back. They will bring Timmy In and use him as the Aussie Marquee not as a Guest Player.. The guest player Heart will bring in will be a Foreigner

That way they are getting 2 Foreign Marquee and 1 Aussie Marquee in Timmy

The truth is out there

This was just as an elaborate con job by City

[baldrick]

Because City did exactly the same thing with Anthony Caceres last season.

[Jetmaster]

They are apparently bringing Luke Brattan in as well.

[MFKS]

Because City did exactly the same thing with Anthony Caceres last season.

Yep and that was an elaborate plan to circumvent the rule that you can't sign rival HAL players

So your telling me this is an elaborate plot just so Heart can sign their own player??

[The Dunster]

Explain to me why Mooy will be playing in the HAL??

If the plan was for him to play for Heart then why he sign for Man City??

Being Heart are owned by City if the plan is to push his development along then nothing stopping him heading to Manchester and training with City. Being the HAL doesn't start until October he could skip Heart pre season and just train with Man City until then

Why go to the hassle of transfering him to Man City only to loan him back??

Up until a few days ago they had him as a Marquee and could pay him as much as they want and could also bring in the 3rd Marquee due to the rule change

I will offer he has only been moved to Man City with the express intention of having him train at City for a bit before getting loaned out to someone with the intention of getting a Transfer Fee for him

Reality is Aaron Mooy of Man City goes for much more money than Aaron Mooy of Melbourne Heart when a Euro Club offers coin.
This move is just a restructuring of assets for the City Group to maximise profit

The bloke ain't playing EPL under Pep and he ain't coming back to Heart this year.
A year or two proving he can do it in Europe and the City Group get more coin for his transfer

The bloke has just been used as a pawn by City to exploit this 3rd Marquee rule that has come in.
Heart will not be bringing him back. They will bring Timmy In and use him as the Aussie Marquee not as a Guest Player.. The guest player Heart will bring in will be a Foreigner

That way they are getting 2 Foreign Marquee and 1 Aussie Marquee in Timmy

The truth is out there

This was just as an elaborate con job by City

I'm sensing the Member hasn't had an empty out for awhile. Might have to pass the hat around the forum and get him hooked up at a short stay hotel.

[MFKS]

I'm sensing the Member hasn't had an empty out for awhile. Might have to pass the hat around the forum and get him hooked up at a short stay hotel.
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[furns]

Mooy will be loaned out in Europe next season, he won't be playing for Melbourne unless he is still unable to find a suitable club.
Cahill will be signed as their guest player, rumors are City already have another marquee lined up and are waiting to announce them both.

[MFKS]

Mooy will be loaned out in Europe next season, he won't be playing for Melbourne unless he is still unable to find a suitable club.
Cahill will be signed as their guest player, rumors are City already have another marquee lined up and are waiting to announce them both.

See there you go....

Everything you say is bang on except for the bit about Mooy playing in Melbourne this season

As soon as Timmy signs and as soon as they announce the other Marquee/Guest Player bit any hope of Mooy coming back is over until the 4th Marquee thing gets up

[tomo]

See there you go....

Everything you say is bang on except for the bit about Mooy playing in Melbourne this season

As soon as Timmy signs and as soon as they announce the other Marquee/Guest Player bit any hope of Mooy coming back is over until the 4th Marquee thing gets up

I agree with u and furns 100%. Mooy will be playing in Europe. But if things didnt turn out the way he wanted, theres nothing stopping Melbourne loaning Mooy back with Manchester paying the wages, therefore, they get another "Marquee" player for nothing!

[MFKS]

Former Smurfs player Chris Naumoff has announced his retirement with immediate effect at the age of 21

After signing for a Spanish 2nd division side routine medical discovered heart issue.the type that sees athletes drop dead in the game

Commiserations to the bloke

Does though leave some serious questions about the medical staff at Smurfs how they could miss it and how competent their procedures are

[Jeterpool]

Former Smurfs player Chris Naumoff has announced his retirement with immediate effect at the age of 21

After signing for a Spanish 2nd division side routine medical discovered heart issue.the type that sees athletes drop dead in the game

Commiserations to the bloke

Does though leave some serious questions about the medical staff at Smurfs how they could miss it and how competent their procedures are

He played for Australian Youth teams as well. I wonder if such tests were conducted on him there as well?

I'm sure he's feeling pretty bad about things at the moment but there are obvious positives for him which will become more apparent.

[weston]

Devastating for him but also a relief. Could of been the next unexpected fatality on the football field (not that any are expected).

Questions should be asked around all of Australia whether at club or international level on procedures to test for this kind of stuff. Did Bernardo Ribeiro have some sort of condition that could of been picked up before his tragedy? I don't know but it's a serious issue and needs to be looked into.

[MFKS]

Devastating for him but also a relief. Could of been the next unexpected fatality on the football field (not that any are expected).

Questions should be asked around all of Australia whether at club or international level on procedures to test for this kind of stuff. Did Bernardo Ribeiro have some sort of condition that could of been picked up before his tragedy? I don't know but it's a serious issue and needs to be looked into.
Forgot about him

Being he played for a dysfunctional club like us no great surprise really.

I though am concerned Smurfs FC screening process was this bad. It ain't like our health care system is 3rd world.

It must work some of the time as it picked up Vidmar and prevented him going to a WC

That being said it is baffling how Ribiero and Naumoff can go undetected in this day and age by Aussie clubs

[The Dunster]

Former Smurfs player Chris Naumoff has announced his retirement with immediate effect at the age of 21

After signing for a Spanish 2nd division side routine medical discovered heart issue.the type that sees athletes drop dead in the game

Commiserations to the bloke

Does though leave some serious questions about the medical staff at Smurfs how they could miss it and how competent their procedures are

It's not economically viable to test everyone and the types of problems and the tests required to detect them are numerous and often expensive.

Has nothing to do with people being incompetent and so on.
There is also issues about the risks involved in testing otherwise healthy people using radiation and so on in search of things they more than likely do not suffer from.

[RAM]

It's not economically viable to test everyone and the types of problems and the tests required to detect them are numerous and often expensive.

Has nothing to do with people being incompetent and so on.
There is also issues about the risks involved in testing otherwise healthy people using radiation and so on in search of things they more than likely do not suffer from.

2 tests required - not much in the scheme of things.

[MFKS]

It's not economically viable to test everyone and the types of problems and the tests required to detect them are numerous and often expensive.

Has nothing to do with people being incompetent and so on.
There is also issues about the risks involved in testing otherwise healthy people using radiation and so on in search of things they more than likely do not suffer from.

So it is economically viable for clubs in the Spanish second division but it isn't for A League clubs.

Professional clubs take care of their product. By not being able to look after players with tests that for Professional clubs around the world consider mandatory then we look pretty amatuer

[The Dunster]

So it is economically viable for clubs in the Spanish second division but it isn't for A League clubs.

Professional clubs take care of their product. By not being able to look after players with tests that for Professional clubs around the world consider mandatory then we look pretty amatuer

Sorry Member I forgot that you specialized in epidemiology. Carry on.

[lquiquer]

Medicare pays $219 for outpatient echocardiogram (ultrasound / no radiation) and about prob $30 for ECG. If Medicare decline to cover it would cost the club about $6000 to test 24 players. Keep in mind players only need to be tested once... Ribeiro would still be with us.....

[MFKS]

Medicare pays $219 for outpatient echocardiogram (ultrasound / no radiation) and about prob $30 for ECG. If Medicare decline to cover it would cost the club about $6000 to test 24 players. Keep in mind players only need to be tested once... Ribeiro would still be with us.....

So there you go Dunster $250 per player that's going via Medicare FFS

You would think that these clubs would have some degree of medical insurance on their players also


Surely a figure these clubs in this country can afford

Surely something the leaders at the PFA should be making mandatory in part of their next lit of negotiations when ripping the clubs off

[plague]

But then do you do cancer scans? Melanoma checks? Brain scans for CTE?
It's easy to say one particular test would save lives but so would a bunch of others how thorough do you want clubs to be ("just thorough enough to prevent every single issue" says Member).

Rightly or wrongly I guess clubs just expect your ticker is ok if you're young and fit.

[MFKS]

But then do you do cancer scans? Melanoma checks? Brain scans for CTE?
It's easy to say one particular test would save lives but so would a bunch of others how thorough do you want clubs to be ("just thorough enough to prevent every single issue" says Member).

Rightly or wrongly I guess clubs just expect your ticker is ok if you're young and fit.

I just thinking all our players should have their hearts checked so we not endure more gutless performances from them

[lquiquer]

But then do you do cancer scans? Melanoma checks? Brain scans for CTE?
It's easy to say one particular test would save lives but so would a bunch of others how thorough do you want clubs to be ("just thorough enough to prevent every single issue" says Member).

Rightly or wrongly I guess clubs just expect your ticker is ok if you're young and fit.

Of all players who collapse and pass away on the pitch (or in ambulance on the way to hospital) it's all secondary to heart condition. Sudden death on the pitch is not secondary to cancer .....Congenital / genetic heart conditions are more common than generally recognised

[The Dunster]

But then do you do cancer scans? Melanoma checks? Brain scans for CTE?
It's easy to say one particular test would save lives but so would a bunch of others how thorough do you want clubs to be ("just thorough enough to prevent every single issue" says Member).

Rightly or wrongly I guess clubs just expect your ticker is ok if you're young and fit.

Good to see someone on the same channel as me Plague.

[BP Super Dynamos]

Mooy has signed with Huddersfield on loan

[MFKS]

Mooy has signed with Huddersfield on loan

So I thought he was coming back to Heart based on all the rantings of those who chose to dispute my claim he would be shipped out on loan ??

[MFKS]

Good to see someone on the same channel as me Plague.
After the death of Marc Vivien Foe at the Confederations Cup on the pitch during the game FIFA mandated that at all their tournaments players be screened for heart issues.

Foe was an EPL player and Man City hadn't picked up his issue.

Since it got mandated clubs have made it SOP for them

If we want to be a professional competition then we should be doing the same thing.

That our club sides and NT set ups have neglected to look into this with Naumoff is a glaring indictment at the levels of professionalism in the game in this country.

Naumoff shouldnt have had to take so long to find out and he shouldn't have had to get a Spanish second division club to do a test.
It should have been done here a while ago

[plague]

Man, one day I'm gonna find out where you blokes purchased those hindsight glasses from because they are ****ing amazing.
Perfect 20/20 vision, Everytime.

Cmon, fess up, where they at?

[Jeterpool]

I'm not a doctor, so I'd appreciate someone with a bit more knowledge in the field answering the question, but is it possible that this condition, while genetically present could it not become apparent until the individual has finished growing? Could this explain why it may not have been detected until he is now 20/21?

[GazFish35]

Man, one day I'm gonna find out where you blokes purchased those hindsight glasses from because they are ****ing amazing.
Perfect 20/20 vision, Everytime.

Cmon, fess up, where they at?

This.

[MFKS]

Man, one day I'm gonna find out where you blokes purchased those hindsight glasses from because they are ****ing amazing.
Perfect 20/20 vision, Everytime.

Cmon, fess up, where they at?

Hindsight??

No one died here. Naumoff is alive and kicking

The issue being raised is the lack of screening by football authorities in this country of a problem that others routinely check on

[weston]

Man, one day I'm gonna find out where you blokes purchased those hindsight glasses from because they are ****ing amazing.
Perfect 20/20 vision, Everytime.

Cmon, fess up, where they at?

1297

Specsavers?

[weston]

I think with all the players collapsing on the field lately due to heart issues I think it's time it's all looked at.

[The Dunster]

I'm not a doctor, so I'd appreciate someone with a bit more knowledge in the field answering the question, but is it possible that this condition, while genetically present could it not become apparent until the individual has finished growing? Could this explain why it may not have been detected until he is now 20/21?

I have a heart condition as does my mother, aunt, and cousin. Cousin died at 27, mothers been told she will need surgery for past 30 years - she's still ok - no surgery, and Aunt was told she would not live to be 30 years old - she's well into her 70's now.

My condition is I have a pericardial cyst which one day will need to be removed if it gets too large. it's not life threatening in my case per se but it can obstruct the way the heart functions and cause anxiety and so on......

Suffice to say though, I've had pretty much every test known to man given my condition and family history.

How my condition was discovered was not from any of these tests - it was when I broke several ribs and it showed up on an x-ray then was confirmed with a ct-scan.

My cousin was tested as well and found to be ok but sure enough an autopsy proved otherwise.

Hence, a lot of this shit comes down to luck - good or bad.

[Jeterpool]

I have a heart condition as does my mother, aunt, and cousin. Cousin died at 27, mothers been told she will need surgery for past 30 years - she's still ok - no surgery, and Aunt was told she would not live to be 30 years old - she's well into her 70's now.

My condition is I have a pericardial cyst which one day will need to be removed if it gets too large. it's not life threatening in my case per se but it can obstruct the way the heart functions and cause anxiety and so on......

Suffice to say though, I've had pretty much every test known to man given my condition and family history.

How my condition was discovered was not from any of these tests - it was when I broke several ribs and it showed up on an x-ray then was confirmed with a ct-scan.

My cousin was tested as well and found to be ok but sure enough an autopsy proved otherwise.

Hence, a lot of this shit comes down to luck - good or bad.

Thanks Dunster. Great post!

[lquiquer]

I have a heart condition as does my mother, aunt, and cousin. Cousin died at 27, mothers been told she will need surgery for past 30 years - she's still ok - no surgery, and Aunt was told she would not live to be 30 years old - she's well into her 70's now.

My condition is I have a pericardial cyst which one day will need to be removed if it gets too large. it's not life threatening in my case per se but it can obstruct the way the heart functions and cause anxiety and so on......

Suffice to say though, I've had pretty much every test known to man given my condition and family history.

How my condition was discovered was not from any of these tests - it was when I broke several ribs and it showed up on an x-ray then was confirmed with a ct-scan.

My cousin was tested as well and found to be ok but sure enough an autopsy proved otherwise.

Hence, a lot of this shit comes down to luck - good or bad.

Sorry to hear about you and your family heart condition Dunster. Pericardial cyst is a very rare condition, don't know the numbers but after working for 15 years as a cardiac sonographer (cardiac ultrasound / echocardiogram) I have seen one suspected pericardial cyst (never confirm by biopsy). MV foe, Naumoff and others who died on the pitch they have a condition called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy ( abnormal thickening of the heart muscle / usually the septum ). I know Naumoff has got it because I talked to the cardiologist who saw him in Sydney. It's life threatening because of fatal arrhythmia associated with it + can cause obstruction of flow with exercise. They were born with it and and echocardiogram WOULD detect it. Also thorough family medical history and ECG could also help. Implanted defibrilator ( which Naumoff will get) and professional sport not compatible just yet. There are a lot of controversy about testing all professional sportsmen with echocardiogram, more so in the US. Some argue that thorough family medical history and ECG is sufficient enough. My personal opinion is because of relatively low cost (see one of my previous post) echocardiogram should be mandatory at Aleague level. Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy is not a rare condition, not 100% sure but strongly suspect Ribeiro had it, that's one player of the Jets family, they could be more and autopsy not the best way to find out.

[MFKS]

Jeterpool

In light of this discussion and some of the points raised about the costs and benefits of these tests

Can you raise a query with the Gypo CEO in your interview on what the club currently does on this front as well as what they plan to be doing if they don't do anything at present

Being we have had 1 of our former players die and we may have had Naumoff here if he had of came when Devon head wanted out we as a club could have another issue easily

[plague]

Hindsight??

No one died here. Naumoff is alive and kicking

The issue being raised is the lack of screening by football authorities in this country of a problem that others routinely check on

Because it's after the fact yet this is the first time you've raised this issue as an indictment on the club/league and said how terrible it is.

Kind of how hindsight works.

[Jeterpool]

Jeterpool

In light of this discussion and some of the points raised about the costs and benefits of these tests

Can you raise a query with the Gypo CEO in your interview on what the club currently does on this front as well as what they plan to be doing if they don't do anything at present

Being we have had 1 of our former players die and we may have had Naumoff here if he had of came when Devon head wanted out we as a club could have another issue easily

We'll put this in with the other questions, yep.

[plague]

after working for 15 years as a cardiac sonographer (cardiac ultrasound / echocardiogram)

Have you ever had any cases of Kawasaki disease come across your desk?

[lquiquer]

Have you ever had any cases of Kawasaki disease come across your desk?

Yep but usually picked up as a baby / child (but haven't scan babies for nearly then years now). Affects the heart with dilated / aneurysmal coronary arteries.

[plague]

Yep but usually picked up as a baby / child (but haven't scan babies for nearly then years now). Affects the heart with dilated / aneurysmal coronary arteries.

So did you get many in after developing the symptoms as kids (i.e. Getting picked up in that crucial first 7 days) or later in life with the heart problems wondering what the heck happened?

[lquiquer]

Never seen it on an adult. As a baby as I said when scanning we can see dilatation of the coronary arteries. That's about all I know about it (only saw a couple of cases more than 10 years ago).

[plague]

Never seen it on an adult. As a baby as I said when scanning we can see dilatation of the coronary arteries. That's about all I know about it (only saw a couple of cases more than 10 years ago).

Reason I brought it up we had Plague Jnr go through it aged 3 and all the info on it was that you find out when the symptoms hit or when your kid drops dead. Remembered at the time Paediatrician saying its suspected in a lot of cases of healthy people dropping dead but that linking it back was near impossible.

[lquiquer]

Reason I brought it up we had Plague Jnr go through it aged 3 and all the info on it was that you find out when the symptoms hit or when your kid drops dead. Remembered at the time Paediatrician saying its suspected in a lot of cases of healthy people dropping dead but that linking it back was near impossible.

Sorry to hear about Plague Jnr..... You know more about it than I do.

[plague]

Sorry to hear about Plague Jnr..... You know more about it than I do.

Nah nothing to be sorry about.
Thanks to a lot of awesome medical people he's recovered and fine to carry on the Plague tradition of terrorising you all once stopper2 or the Member stabs me to death in the carpark of a Jets game one day soon.

[lquiquer]

Nah nothing to be sorry about.
Thanks to a lot of awesome medical people he's recovered and fine to carry on the Plague tradition of terrorising you all once stopper2 or the Member stabs me to death in the carpark of a Jets game one day soon.

I think the Member more likely would buy you a beer (not at newy stadium)...

[MFKS]

I think the Member more likely would buy you a beer (not at newy stadium)...

I am expecting one from him Lquiquer

Being as I provide most of his material for his wit that is the least he can do

[plague]

I am expecting one from him Lquiquer

Being as I provide most of his material for his wit that is the least he can do

Absolutely.
Offer still stands, whenever I actually meet any of you the first beer is on me.

[q-money]

i guess we just have to look for the second richest man at the ground after hawk, do you own a lambo or a ferrari?

[Bon]

i guess we just have to look for the second richest man at the ground after hawk, do you own a lambo or a ferrari?

:lulzturtle:

[GazFish35]

Last week, maybe the week before July20 was mooted for a fans forum.
Today I saw the herald talking of an NPL select side playing the jerks on July 20.

I thought about going off on an ill informed rant, but then thought why not just contact the club instead.

The fan forum will be rescheduled.

I assume the football department get precedence on the calendar. good.

[plague]

i guess we just have to look for the second richest man at the ground after hawk, do you own a lambo or a ferrari?

I just drive whichever one Hawks' not using that day.

[hawk]

AS long as Plague brings all the chicks to the yard

[plague]

AS long as Plague brings all the chicks to the yard

Jeez Hawk how many supermodels do you go through a day?

[stopper2]

Last week, maybe the week before July20 was mooted for a fans forum.
Today I saw the herald talking of an NPL select side playing the jerks on July 20.

I thought about going off on an ill informed rant, but then thought why not just contact the club instead.

The fan forum will be rescheduled.

I assume the football department get precedence on the calendar. good.

Apart from you mentioning it Gaz, have not seen or heard anything about a fans forum.

I think they need to decide a few weeks in advance and give it full exposure on the Jets website and on social media (facebook, twitter etc).

McKinna is a big believer from what i've seen by his comments in being open and transparent and listening to the fans. This would be high on his priority list. I thought the forums last year (Members, Business and Community) were great but there was never any follow-up. Eland himself when asked why, apparently said....there had been enough talk....which is pretty ordinary even though he was only an "interim" CEO as former CEO Mitchell had organised and been a part of the other Forums.

[GazFish35]

It was is a herald piece recently.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4001281/joel-griffiths-helps-jets-kick-off-new-era/

[Hunter403]

Apparently the Cahill/City deal is done. Club better move the Jets/City match back to Stade de Newy ASAP.

[MFKS]

Apparently the Cahill/City deal is done. Club better move the Jets/City match back to Stade de Newy ASAP.
Why??


Apparently according to some it is a great idea to play games in the sticks for a bunch of hillbillies and screw over their loyal fans.

Think of the big picture here.


Just another **** up from the Jets and Northern

Nothing new there

[rhysd]

Did read there was to be a minimum of 12 games at Newcastle. I would imagine that game will now change.

[lquiquer]

Why??


Apparently according to some it is a great idea to play games in the sticks for a bunch of hillbillies and screw over their loyal fans.

Think of the big picture here.


Just another **** up from the Jets and Northern

Nothing new there

Quite surprised they haven't move the fixture to Shenzhen yet........:slap:

[Retro Jet]

Apparently the Cahill/City deal is done. Club better move the Jets/City match back to Stade de Newy ASAP.

Yep...and feed them the enigma that is Wellington Phoenix instead.
Boxing day game. Newie holiday makers up there...bla bla bla.
Make it happen Lawrie.

[Wilso8948]

In laws are two mins from Coffs stadium. I'll gladly sit on the hill with the 14 other people and hurl abuse at Cahill and co. free accomo. Best decision Jets have ever made. Coffs harbour Jets yeww

[Jetmaster]

Coffs capacity...


The Stadium has a capacity for 20,000 spectators, including 936 permanent grandstand seats.

If Cahill plays it will get its sternest test....only 936 seats and I bet few of those will be allocated to Gold Jets members who pay a large amount to not sit on a grass hill. Have booked accomodation early anticipating Cahill - but had the sense to book something that has free cancellation too.

Will be interesting how this pans out - the Herald will go to town on it for sure....if it happens of course.

[Jeterpool]

Coffs capacity...



If Cahill plays it will get its sternest test....only 936 seats and I bet few of those will be allocated to Gold Jets members who pay a large amount to not sit on a grass hill. Have booked accomodation early anticipating Cahill - but had the sense to book something that has free cancellation too.

Will be interesting how this pans out - the Herald will go to town on it for sure....if it happens of course.

Might be a good question when the Jetstream get to speak with McKinna.

[RAM]

Coffs capacity...



If Cahill plays it will get its sternest test....only 936 seats and I bet few of those will be allocated to Gold Jets members who pay a large amount to not sit on a grass hill. Have booked accomodation early anticipating Cahill - but had the sense to book something that has free cancellation too.

Will be interesting how this pans out - the Herald will go to town on it for sure....if it happens of course.

Jets might actually earn some money on tickets/food away from Hunter Stadium.

[RAM]

Why??


Apparently according to some it is a great idea to play games in the sticks for a bunch of hillbillies and screw over their loyal fans.

Think of the big picture here.


Just another **** up from the Jets and Northern

Nothing new there

Suck shit.

[belchardo]

New a-league boss announced

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/14/ffa-name-new-a-league-boss-greg-rourke

[furns]

New a-league boss announced

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/14/ffa-name-new-a-league-boss-greg-rourkeInteresting resume. Hopefully we have found someone who knows what they are doing, and will shout us another bevvie in Wellington :lol:

[belchardo]

As you are aware it is an exciting time for Newcastle Jets with new ownership under Chairman Martin Lee and the Ledman Group. We have also recently welcomed Lawrie McKinna as Chief Executive Officer, who brings to the Club a wealth of football knowledge and experience.

Given the recent changes we would like to invite our fans to a forum where questions can be asked to a panel consisting of Lawrie McKinna (CEO), Scott Miller (Head Coach) and Nigel Boogaard (Club Captain). This will be a great opportunity for our fans to hear from leaders from the Club on a range of Newcastle Jets topics.


Date: Wednesday 27 July 2016


Venue: Event Cinemas, Kotara


Time: 6:00pm – 8:00pm


RSVP: Please confirm your attendance by registering your details here.


We are also keen to receive any questions you may have for the panel prior to the Fan Forum. We will integrate as many of these questions into the evening, enabling fans that may not be able to attend a chance to be involved. Questions can be submitted up to midday on Tuesday 26 July 2016 by including them in your attendance registration.


Ahead of the Fan Forum, here are some Club elements we can advise you of ahead of time:


Club Colours – The Club’s colours for the Hyundai A-League 2016/17 Season will remain blue, red, and gold. These are the colours that feature in the Club’s crest and the Club will be seeking to maintain consistency with this.


Club Kit – Following feedback from our Members and fans and in consultation with our Members Sub-Committee, we understood the preference of our Members and fans was not to change the kit design each season. To this end the home kit design will not change for this season, however a new away kit will be launched.


Club Crest – The Newcastle Jets crest will not change for the 2016/17 Season.


Club Name – The Newcastle Jets name will not change for the 2017/17 Season.


We look forward to welcoming you to the 2016 Newcastle Jets Fan Forum.


Together We Can Soar!

Fan foz announced. Got an email about an hour ago.

Am I reading too much into the 2016/17 comments re name, colours etc?

[Thomas477]

Fan foz announced. Got an email about an hour ago.

Am I reading too much into the 2016/17 comments re name, colours etc?

I got that vibe too, next off season will be interesting.

[sammydog]

Fan foz announced. Got an email about an hour ago.

Am I reading too much into the 2016/17 comments re name, colours etc?

I thought reading it that it sounds like anything could happen with the name/colours next season.

Not sure if its poorly written, or it is an indication of big change.

[stopper2]

Might be a good question when the Jetstream get to speak with McKinna.

My hunch is that Lawrie probably won't be able to provide any answer at this stage, only that he will have to inform Martin lee of the possibility that Tim Cahill will possibly be playing for City in a game scheduled to be played in a regional town that is approx only 20,000 capacity (only 1,000 seated) versus our own stadium which is 33,000 (23,000 seated). If I was Martin Lee, I would be simply asking "Why"?

[sammydog]

My hunch is that Lawrie probably won't be able to provide any answer at this stage, only that he will have to inform Martin lee of the possibility that Tim Cahill will possibly be playing for City in a game scheduled to be played in a regional town that is approx only 20,000 capacity (only 1,000 seated) versus our own stadium which is 33,000 (23,000 seated). If I was Martin Lee, I would be simply asking "Why"?

I hope this happens, and I question how the previous Jets administration were able to make this decision while effectively in caretaker mode. They have basically screwed over the incoming owner and management team.

There are only a few clubs in the A-League likely to sign a big name player, City are one, so this scenario was not one that couldn't be seen to be likely to occur. FFS, if you are moving a game, move a game like Perth, Adelaide or Wellington. no big players and it would be a pain for them to get to. Don't move a club who is likely to make 1 or 2 big name signings that will bring in a crowd.

Lee wants to connect with the Newcastle Community. Keeping the big games in town is one way to do it. Unfortunately at this stage, I cant see the draw being amended.

[GazFish35]

Fan foz announced. Got an email about an hour ago.

Am I reading too much into the 2016/17 comments re name, colours etc?

Could be a statement to counter anyone saying that last year the FFA said these things were "on the table" for change and stopping people asking about changing things for this season when shirts and club merch are already in production.

[GazFish35]

I hope this happens, and I question how the previous Jets administration were able to make this decision while effectively in caretaker mode. They have basically screwed over the incoming owner and management team.

There are only a few clubs in the A-League likely to sign a big name player, City are one, so this scenario was not one that couldn't be seen to be likely to occur. FFS, if you are moving a game, move a game like Perth, Adelaide or Wellington. no big players and it would be a pain for them to get to. Don't move a club who is likely to make 1 or 2 big name signings that will bring in a crowd.

Lee wants to connect with the Newcastle Community. Keeping the big games in town is one way to do it. Unfortunately at this stage, I cant see the draw being amended.

You make some great points, but I think the decision was made based on when the game is, not simply who it was against.
Traditionally (I think) end of school holidays matches don't draw big crowds.

[hawk]

There are only a few clubs in the A-League likely to sign a big name player, City are one, so this scenario was not one that couldn't be seen to be likely to occur. FFS, if you are moving a game, move a game like Perth, Adelaide or Wellington. no big players and it would be a pain for them to get to. Don't move a club who is likely to make 1 or 2 big name signings that will bring in a crowd.

here here

[belchardo]

you know, I reckon there is a chance the jets will make more money off a 20,000 crowd at coffs than 30k at newy.

[q-money]

Why would you want to watch the jets get pumped by the City juggernaut at hunter stadium anyway? Move this game to Wee Waa imo. Coffs Harbour is not far enough away for it

[Premy]

The fact that you all think the Jets HQ had a say in who would be the opponent for Coffs game is hilarious.

[hawk]

The fact that you all think the Jets HQ had a say in who would be the opponent for Coffs game is hilarious.

pretty sure we all know its the sausage guzzlers at ffa but anyway

[plague]

Why would you want to watch the jets get pumped by the City juggernaut at hunter stadium anyway? Move this game to Wee Waa imo. Coffs Harbour is not far enough away for it

Play the game in China.
Black out the western media.
Give the locals a taste of what they paid for.

[Jeterpool]

Hi-Five Vukabitch has been granted a release from Victory. He was afraid of the ribbing he was going to get from the hill at Magic Park in a few weeks.

In all seriousness, his son is getting a liver transplant apparently. Explains his loss in form towards the end of last season.

Hope that all goes well.

[lquiquer]

And sign with FC

[Jeterpool]

And sign with FC

Has he signed with Sydney? They have Covic trialing but it wouldn't surprise me.

[lquiquer]

Yep he has.... It's official now

[Jeterpool]

Yep he has.... It's official now

What a joke that is. The whole off-season player movement with this "mutual release" crap is simply a joke.

The sooner we can start transfer fees between clubs the better.

[MFKS]

Heard tonighs game V NPL select side is off.

Apparently playing in the rain is beneath us

[lquiquer]

Heard tonighs game V NPL select side is off.

Apparently playing in the rain is beneath us

How they do in England?..... Never seem to postponed games unless the pitch is 2 meters under water!!!!!

[furns]

Heard tonighs game V NPL select side is off.

Apparently playing in the rain is beneath us
Confirmed via Jets twitter

[MFKS]

How they do in England?..... Never seem to postponed games unless the pitch is 2 meters under water!!!!!
Was watching something the other night an old Chelsea game when they had Zola and Vialli so back before they got good

Were playing in the Cup Winners Cup against some Norwegian side and a blizzard came in and covered the pitch. They played it out though

It is a glaring indictment on how soft we are getting with things being called off at the sign of less than ideal weather

[Jeterpool]

Was watching something the other night an old Chelsea game when they had Zola and Vialli so back before they got good

Were playing in the Cup Winners Cup against some Norwegian side and a blizzard came in and covered the pitch. They played it out though

It is a glaring indictment on how soft we are getting with things being called off at the sign of less than ideal weather

Cup Winners Cup! That's old. Did Vialli do a stint as player/manager?

I guess that match had started by the time a blizzard had come across and the match was a competitive fixture. This is a trial match, to play devil's advocate.

I'm sure the leading teams aren't complaining about the decision.

[sammydog]

Cup Winners Cup! That's old. Did Vialli do a stint as player/manager?

I guess that match had started by the time a blizzard had come across and the match was a competitive fixture. This is a trial match, to play devil's advocate.

I'm sure the leading teams aren't complaining about the decision.

Id be guessing that the Jets didn't have too much of a say as to the game going ahead anyway.

Surely Magic would have had the final call about the use of the pitch.

[Jeterpool]

Id be guessing that the Jets didn't have too much of a say as to the game going ahead anyway.

Surely Magic would have had the final call about the use of the pitch.

Of course, without a doubt

[MFKS]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1hs7JDDBvDI
,
When men were men

[Hunter403]

How they do in England?..... Never seem to postponed games unless the pitch is 2 meters under water!!!!!

The grounds in England are well drained and often heated. Most grounds in Newcastle are built on old swampland / flood plain (including but not limited to Stade de Newy, Magic Park, Adamstown Oval, Darling St, Edden Oval, Novocastrian, Alder Park, Islington Oval ). I know that a lot has been done to improve those grounds over the years but they still don't hold up well in the winter when wet and over used.

Another HUGE problem we have is the lack of grounds generally. Our football fields are over used, poorly maintained and conducive only to poor play. The team I coach play on Islington Oval and it is rubbish. Last weekend they had their only game on Darling St and it was like watching a different side. Decent playing surfaces will lift the standard of football markedly.

[MFKS]

The grounds in England are well drained and often heated. Most grounds in Newcastle are built on old swampland / flood plain (including but not limited to Stade de Newy, Magic Park, Adamstown Oval, Darling St, Edden Oval, Novocastrian, Alder Park, Islington Oval ). I know that a lot has been done to improve those grounds over the years but they still don't hold up well in the winter when wet and over used.

Another HUGE problem we have is the lack of grounds generally. Our football fields are over used, poorly maintained and conducive only to poor play. The team I coach play on Islington Oval and it is rubbish. Last weekend they had their only game on Darling St and it was like watching a different side. Decent playing surfaces will lift the standard of football markedly.

Undersoil heating is for dealing with pitches being frozen rather than wet . Obviously dangerous playing on a pitch as hard as concrete as it is frozen. Not an issue in this country

Your right a lot of our sporting facilities in this country are built on swamp. . You only need to look at the plethora of drains creeks etc in the vicinity of grounds to see this.

Biggest issue here to me is a cultural thing. First hint of rain and it is off as the precious grass needs protection.
Compare that to Europe where weather 5x as bad as we have had in Newy today and they would still be playing on not only professional standard pitches but also pub league pictures right across the nation.

So even facilities with less drainage and infrastructure than a Newy NPL ground would be used without batting an eyelid.

Yet here it is off.

Hell even as a kid growing up in Newy 20-30 years ago we would play in these conditions every week if present but not now thanks to over zealous bureaucracy

[Hunter403]

I'd argue that the grass does need protection otherwise we will continue to try and teach our kids to play on crap surfaces. Fix the drainage issues and the subsoil and then the grass will more likely survive the rain and the heavy use.

I do however agree that we should play in all weather. Some of my best memories of junior football are of rain soaked matches. Let's get the grounds right then we can play in anything. Yeah, I know, who will pay for it? Council does have a significant amount in section 94 and 94a contributions stashed away. That's the start point. Then it will be down to local communities and clubs or a benefactor of some kind. It's nice to dream

[De-Champ]

Undersoil heating is for dealing with pitches being frozen rather than wet . Obviously dangerous playing on a pitch as hard as concrete as it is frozen. Not an issue in this country

Your right a lot of our sporting facilities in this country are built on swamp. . You only need to look at the plethora of drains creeks etc in the vicinity of grounds to see this.

Biggest issue here to me is a cultural thing. First hint of rain and it is off as the precious grass needs protection.
Compare that to Europe where weather 5x as bad as we have had in Newy today and they would still be playing on not only professional standard pitches but also pub league pictures right across the nation.

So even facilities with less drainage and infrastructure than a Newy NPL ground would be used without batting an eyelid.

Yet here it is off.

Hell even as a kid growing up in Newy 20-30 years ago we would play in these conditions every week if present but not now thanks to over zealous bureaucracy

I find it hilarious you are comparing European pitches with goat tracks. if you think the two bob that is spent on pitches over here is going to match it with multi million dollar pitches you are delusional.

[leftrightout]

Different types of grass for different environments for different times of year for different temperatures for different amounts of traffic... There are plenty of variables purely when it comes to the type of grass used and our local parks certainly aren't blessed with what is used!

[Captain Obvious]

you are delusional.

Hello to you too de-champ. its good to hear from you.

[MFKS]

I find it hilarious you are comparing European pitches with goat tracks. if you think the two bob that is spent on pitches over here is going to match it with multi million dollar pitches you are delusional.

So you missed the bit where I was talking about pub league fields??

How many Pub League pitches in Europe have multi million $$ pitches??
Your comparing NPL grounds win Newy with multi million $$ pitches on pub league grounds.

Care to enlighten us as to which pub league pitches are worth millions of $$ because I am at a loss

Delusional is when you can't read and then comment and make points that don't even stick with the points raised

[MFKS]

I'd argue that the grass does need protection otherwise we will continue to try and teach our kids to play on crap surfaces. Fix the drainage issues and the subsoil and then the grass will more likely survive the rain and the heavy use.

I do however agree that we should play in all weather. Some of my best memories of junior football are of rain soaked matches. Let's get the grounds right then we can play in anything. Yeah, I know, who will pay for it? Council does have a significant amount in section 94 and 94a contributions stashed away. That's the start point. Then it will be down to local communities and clubs or a benefactor of some kind. It's nice to dream

I don't think quality surfaces to teach kids mean much.

Many highly technical players have learnt the skills in less than ideal circumstances.a and facilities
Bumpy pitches teach skills that are easily replicated on ideal surfaces
African kids play in dust bowl and without coaching can master trapping a ball
Sth American kids play on all sorts of rough pitches and have acceptable technical skills

Our kids need to play on billiard tables and are ****ing useless

[lquiquer]

I don't think quality surfaces to teach kids mean much.

Many highly technical players have learnt the skills in less than ideal circumstances.a and facilities
Bumpy pitches teach skills that are easily replicated on ideal surfaces
African kids play in dust bowl and without coaching can master trapping a ball
Sth American kids play on all sorts of rough pitches and have acceptable technical skills

Our kids need to play on billiard tables and are ****ing useless

Most didn't even have boots.....

[Hunter403]

I don't think quality surfaces to teach kids mean much.

Many highly technical players have learnt the skills in less than ideal circumstances.a and facilities
Bumpy pitches teach skills that are easily replicated on ideal surfaces
African kids play in dust bowl and without coaching can master trapping a ball
Sth American kids play on all sorts of rough pitches and have acceptable technical skills

Our kids need to play on billiard tables and are ****ing useless

I'm not suggesting we play on billiard tables. I'm suggesting we play on better surfaces, you know, ones with grass on them and that aren't cut to pieces by over use. I'm suggesting that we can't play in poor weather because the fields are crap and given the traffic they take they need protection. Yes, many of the worlds best that have come from poor nations where they cut their teeth when very young on poor surfaces but they soon find themselves on good ones. They also have a hunger to succeed that many of our pampered young do not. There are also a quite a few of the worlds best that have been nurtured by wealthy nations that have better facilities than we do and are on good surfaces from a very early age. Those nations also often have a far better and well worn path to success than we currently have. That's a whole new discussion on the impact socioeconomic conditions have on the production of football talent.

My point is simple. We have a limited number of fields that are over used and in really poor shape. Without huge investment they will stay that way. The only way to limit the damage is to avoid playing in poor weather. Hence the postponement of the game.

[De-Champ]

So you missed the bit where I was talking about pub league fields??

How many Pub League pitches in Europe have multi million $$ pitches??
Your comparing NPL grounds win Newy with multi million $$ pitches on pub league grounds.

Care to enlighten us as to which pub league pitches are worth millions of $$ because I am at a loss

Delusional is when you can't read and then comment and make points that don't even stick with the points raised

where in that post were you talking about pub sides??

[MFKS]

Biggest issue here to me is a cultural thing. First hint of rain and it is off as the precious grass needs protection.
Compare that to Europe where weather 5x as bad as we have had in Newy today and they would still be playing on not only professional standard pitches but also pub league pictures right across the nation.

So even facilities with less drainage and infrastructure than a Newy NPL ground would be used without batting an eyelid.



Not hard to find

[RAM]

Undersoil heating is for dealing with pitches being frozen rather than wet . Obviously dangerous playing on a pitch as hard as concrete as it is frozen. Not an issue in this country

Your right a lot of our sporting facilities in this country are built on swamp. . You only need to look at the plethora of drains creeks etc in the vicinity of grounds to see this.

Biggest issue here to me is a cultural thing. First hint of rain and it is off as the precious grass needs protection.
Compare that to Europe where weather 5x as bad as we have had in Newy today and they would still be playing on not only professional standard pitches but also pub league pictures right across the nation.

So even facilities with less drainage and infrastructure than a Newy NPL ground would be used without batting an eyelid.

Yet here it is off.

Hell even as a kid growing up in Newy 20-30 years ago we would play in these conditions every week if present but not now thanks to over zealous bureaucracy

x2

As a junior in Newie in the 80s and early 90s I remember playing in all sorts of shit conditions.

Up in the New England wet weather rarely results in matches called off, although this season has seen some stupid decisions in that regard.

Mates of mine now playing NBN/NewFM complain about how piss weak the wet weather rules are down there now. Apparently someone spits on a field and its washed out ffs

[Jetmaster]

It is a cultural thing like Member says, Aussies are basically, soft, when it comes to rain. Look at the fans who stay away in droves if there are showers or threat of a storm and how they run for the stands if it starts to drizzle. In Europe fans suit up and stand in the snow, rain and hail.

And it starts at the top - we can't provide the national team with a reasonable surface to play at home in many cases. But look at places like Wigan, Hull and to some extent Old Trafford that have other codes playing on them, regularly, in British winter. Apart from a few lines the grass looks fine. We can't be arsed to tap in that technology though as the other codes don't care what they play on, they don't need to and that extends down the chain.

[stopper2]

I don't think quality surfaces to teach kids mean much.

Many highly technical players have learnt the skills in less than ideal circumstances.a and facilities
Bumpy pitches teach skills that are easily replicated on ideal surfaces
African kids play in dust bowl and without coaching can master trapping a ball
Sth American kids play on all sorts of rough pitches and have acceptable technical skills

Our kids need to play on billiard tables and are ****ing useless

In your own pragmatic style old mate, once again you are on the money.

[plague]

Aussies are basically, soft, when it comes to rain. Look at the fans who stay away in droves if there are showers or threat of a storm and how they run for the stands if it starts to drizzle.

I think the word you're looking for is sensible.

What sort of asshole wants to stand out in the rain while some other asshole that doesnt give a shit about you does his job?

Geez, too many other awesome things to do in this country rather than get your Sunday best all messed up.

[hawk]

Our kids need to play on billiard tables and are ****ing useless

Plus there's the added chance of going off the pink into the brown. brrrr

[Retro Jet]

Plus there's the added chance of going off the pink into the brown. brrrr

:facepalm:

Oh Magoo, you've done it again....

[Bon]

Plus there's the added chance of going off the pink into the brown. brrrr

:lulzturtle:

[lquiquer]

Hey Member, your mate Ben Williams has retired

[Jeterpool]

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/experienced-hyundai-a-league-referee-announces-retirement/1supwfq3lhyhp146zr3o0m5svu

Ben Williams Retires

That's a very good thing for us.

Refereed 27 matches and we won 6, drew 3 and lost 18.

Produced 54 yellows and 5 reds for us, 39 yellows and 2 reds for the opposition.

Awarded the Jets 2 penalties during his time, while the opposition were awarded 5.

[MFKS]

Hey Member, your mate Ben Williams has retired

He ain't my mate.

It must be said it is a great day today

Praise Griff


I wonder which blind git is getting promoted to the FT panel??

I hope the FFA take the opportunity to recruit a foreign ref who can force these other clowns to improve

[Couscous]

I'd like to announce that the FFA will make an announcement at 11am.

[Grimario]

I'd like to announce that the FFA will make an announcement at 11am.

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/hyundai-extends-partnership-a-further-four-years-through-to-2020/jzt7jnlp1vbk1wq99o1vj9sin

4 more years of HAL.

[Grimario]

IGA sign on for 3 years as Adelaide major sponsor.

http://www.adelaideunited.com.au/article/reds-announce-landmark-partnership-with-iga/1jnwjdzlxospn10qou2g2luocn

[turbojetfireV8]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4052002/sky-the-limit-as-hall-puts-jets-in-pilot-seat/?cs=306

http://www.nbnnews.com.au/2016/07/25/matt-hall-and-the-newcastle-jets-join-forces/

Last night's NBN coverage of Matt Hall's pep talk to the Jets re aiming for the sky

[&1gest]

from some coasties twitter
Luke ‏@Boycey1105 (https://twitter.com/Boycey1105) 6m (https://twitter.com/Boycey1105/status/757800467334205440)6 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Boycey1105/status/757800467334205440)
Halftime and the Jets are up 1-0. Cracking goal from Brown the difference.#preseason (https://twitter.com/hashtag/preseason?src=hash)

[Grimario]

from some coasties twitter

And more.


GOAL O'donovan.Neil whips in a cross, headed back out to Rose by the Jets,Rose shot deflecs to Fabio who nods it down to Roy who taps it in.

Amusing bunch of tweets about their GK situation too... would appear Izzo has been dropped. Ivan has played the entire game, Izzo wasn't subbed on and didn't even sit on the pine for the end of it.

[Grimario]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4055945/watch-wayne-brown-score-cracking-goal-on-jets-debut-i-video/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdVx0sm69QY

[pv4]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4055945/watch-wayne-brown-score-cracking-goal-on-jets-debut-i-video/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdVx0sm69QY

There's nothing better than preseason games against the Mariners. I can't think of a better way to make the derby during the season more meaningful tbh.

:gent:

[MFKS]

There's nothing better than preseason games against the Mariners. I can't think of a better way to make the derby during the season more meaningful tbh.

:gent:

Considering the financials of it??

Getting a HAL club from interstate here isn't that cost effective.

Even getting a game V the Sydney sides has costs

The NPL ain't of sufficient standard

End of day loading up a mini van or Two is the easiest and cheapest option for us

Until we are adequately resourced it is the reality of it

[GazFish35]

Wow.

Did someone hack members account?

[lquiquer]

Wow.

Did someone hack members account?

? The CEO

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/29/griffith-review-essay-see-how-they-run-sports-governance-in-australia

Good and interesting (but long) article on sports governance from gideon haigh.

[baldrick]

More than a year after being released by Sydney FC, the bone bruising in his knee - in the wake of a ruptured ACL - has proven too painful, with Carle confirming his playing days were over.

He will now focus on coaching kids and scouting some as possible candidates for Sydney FC’s academy.

It marks the closure of almost two decades of a football journey that took Carle from the NSL and the A-League to France, Turkey and England, earning 13 caps for the Socceroos on the way. If that career was, in his own words, a mix of “massive highs and massive disappointments”, his highlights reel will always be worth watching.

Injury has ended the playing career of former Sydney FC star Nicky Carle.

At his peak almost a decade ago, Carle scored the A-League’s goal of the season and was its player of the year. He also took huge professional pride in adapting to a wide variety of football styles, though not to a level to convince Socceroos coaches that he should be a regular selection, and his love of football survived even being cut from the national squad on the eve of the 2010 World Cup.

“I’m devastated at having to call it quits because I love football - I would have played until I was 50 if I was good enough,” Carle said. “I’ve always been passionate about the game and that passion has never dipped - I love training, I love playing. But you know, I’m also very grateful to the game for giving me a job doing something I love and some unreal experiences.

“Pulling on the national team jersey was the pinnacle - I was lucky enough to play at every level, from U17s through to the senior side, and there’s no bigger moment in your life.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/former-sydney-fc-star-nicky-carle-to-focus-on-coaching-kids-after-knee-injury-ends-playing-career/news-story/7b802141c17a1f6c308b16adc9cd87df

[belchardo]

https://youtu.be/OZ43XbTFhYc

Great stuff.

[furns]

One of our best ever players

[stopper2]

One of our best ever players

Read an interview not so long ago by Carle, said that he thought he was at his peak and played his best football in his time with us.
There seemed to be a misconception that he was a little lazy....a lazy player does not make a "box to box" run in the dying seconds of injury time to score the winning goal.

Also, how good do those gold jerseys look under lights!!!
If we ever go back to gold, it has to be this real gold look, not "yellow" gold or that "dirty" gold look of the one-off design of last year.

[Thomas477]

That assist by Griff :wub:

[baldrick]

https://youtu.be/OZ43XbTFhYc

Great stuff.


I was sitting behind the goal that night, watching him run towards us thinking: bloody hell, he's going to score here.

[MFKS]

One of our best ever players
I thinking 3rd best

Griff
Birraz
Carle

In that order

[furns]

I thinking 3rd best

Griff
Birraz
Carle

In that orderNotice the use of the phrase "one of"

[MFKS]

Notice the use of the phrase "one of"

I noticed it

I was just putting them down in their correct order that's all

[RAM]

I thinking 3rd best

Griff
Birraz
Carle

In that order

You idiot.

[lquiquer]

Troisi to Victory

[Jeterpool]

Troisi to Victory

:soapbox:

[plague]

I thinking 3rd best

Griff
Birraz
Carle

In that order

Yeah look that is a funny post and all but its wrong very much because everyone knows Griff is first and daylight is second.

and you spelt Jobe wrong.