15/16 HAL Round 16 | Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory | Sunday 24/01/16 ko 500pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 15/16 Round 16 Preview - Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 30 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 6, Glory Wins - 18, Drawn - 6


In Newcastle – 15 matches.
Jets Wins - 5, Glory Wins - 8, Drawn - 2
In Perth - 15
Jets Wins - 1, Glory Wins - 10, Drawn - 4

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9013
Average Away A-League Crowd - 8485

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 31, Glory - 55
In Newcastle -
Jets – 17, Glory - 24

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 12, Glory - 16

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 58 (56 yellow, 2 red), Glory 46 (43 yellow, 3 red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets - DLLLW (4 points from last 15)
Glory - DDLLD (3 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Milos Trifunovic (5)
Glory – Diego Castro (5)

Last Result -
Jets 1 (Carney 30', Trifunovic 71') – Phoenix 1 (Ki-Je o.g 45+1') at Westpac Stadium, A-League, Round 1, 11/10/2015.

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 10 Round 24

Newcastle JetsPerth Glory
Ben KennedyDaniel Vukovic
Nick CowburnRostyn Griffiths
Taylor ReganDino Djulbic
Daniel MullenJoshua Risdon
Ki-Je LeeScott Jamieson
Enver AlivodicMichael Thwaite
Ben KantarovskiAndrew Keogh
Zenon CaravellaRichard Garcia
Mitch CooperJamie Maclaren
Edson MontanoSidnei
Andrew HooleDragan Paljic



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Haliti 13’, Brockie 54’, Petrovski 68’Penalty, Petrovski 69’) – Glory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Midweek Round 1, Season 2010/11, 10/02/2011.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 (Parisi 71’) – Glory 5 (Mori 33’, Harnwell 46’, Despotovski 52’, Mori 62’, Sekulovski 81’), Round 7, Season 2005/06 at Energy Australia Stadium, 08/10/2005.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (6)
Glory - Jamie Harnwell (7)



2015/16 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubstitute AppearancesSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed - Second BookableStraight Red
1Mark Birighitti141401124900100
2Daniel Mullen880072000100
3Jason Hoffman141401125700600
4Nigel Boogaard11110196900110
5Ben Kantarovski141312112520410
6Cameron Watson1394580100300
7Enver Alivodic151503128611100
8Mateo Poljak151500135001300
9Milos Trifunovic141404122150400
10Leonardo Vitor Santiago871652801000
11Labinot Haliti21112400000
12Andy Brennan0000000000
13Ki-Je Lee880072001100
14Mitch Cooper615111600000
15Themba Muata-Marlow0000000000
17Radovan Pavicevic50508200200
18Josh Barresi0000000000
20Ben Kennedy211010100000
22Lachlan Jackson1192281800000
23David Carney141402125733600
24Nick Cowburn1046143900100
25Brandon Lundy10107500000
27Braedyn Crowley716018900000
28Ryan Kitto963647811000
29Andrew Pawiak0000000000
40Blake Tuxford0000000000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Scott Miller - 0 wins, Ken Lowe - 1 win, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (3 wins, 6 drawn and 7 losses = 19% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 4 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)

Perth Glory Coach Record – Ken Lowe 100% win ratio (5 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses)




KEY FACTS:

General

Newcastle haven't defeated Perth in their last 11 A-League matches, taking only 2 draws from those matches.
5 of Newcastle's 6 wins have come at home.
The last meeting between the teams brough controversy in the stands with the unveiling of a banner stating "Enough Failure, Lies + Arrogance. 10000 Fans Demand The Muppet Gone".
Perth defeated Newcastle in the FFA Cup match at Magic Park earlier in the season.



Players

Ryan Kitto became the 60th player to score for the Jets in the A-League.
Ben Kantarovski received the 3rd red card of his A-League career last weekend.
Ante Covic hasn't kept a clean sheet in the last 5 matcehs against the Jets.



Coaches

Ken Lowe has won every match he has coached against the Jets.
Scott Miller avoided equalling the Jets longest stretch without a win last weekend.



Newcastle Jets

The Jets have never lost to Perth when they have gone into half time ahead.
Milos Trifunovic's 7th minute penalty last week was the first goal the Jets have scored within the opening 10 minutes since Rd 6, Season 12/13 when Calvano scored in the 6th minute against Perth.



Perth Glory

Perth have scored two goals in each of the last 4 matches against the Jets.
Perth haven't won or kept a clean sheet away from home this season.

[Grimario]

Lose

[Jeterpool]

We're in the middle of a really important period of our season. We have 3 matches with fellow 6th spot contenders - playing Wellington, Perth and Adelaide. If we win these 3 matches we are back in with a shout. Lose this weekend and we are back in 9th again.

If we are going to take anything from the season we need to win this game.

Perth are going to be similar to Wellington in so much as they are missing Djulbic (injury) and Thwaite (transfer). Their young defender Collard is suspended too. Plus they have Marc Warren in their line up so if that's not an advantage for us I don't know what is.

I think we can back last weekend's result up this week.

I'd be playing Cowburn in Kantaroski's place this week and after another week's rest I'd consider where Leonardo fits. If we stick with the 4-4-2 then play Kitto. If we return to normal service I'd play Leonardo.

[StannyCFCJET]

We need to play the same formation and tactics we used against the phoenix but if heaven forbid he plays watson then all hell will be unleashed on the coaches dugout next sunday. i wouldnt start leo at yet either give him time off the bench to see how much he wants the starting spot and atm id have cooper higher in the pecking order

[leftrightout]

We need to play the same formation and tactics we used against the phoenix but if heaven forbid he plays watson then all hell will be unleashed on the coaches dugout next sunday. i wouldnt start leo at yet either give him time off the bench to see how much he wants the starting spot and atm id have cooper higher in the pecking order

If Miller puts out 4-4-2 week after week we will get torn apart! Its a formation to use against certain teams (perth is probably one of them) but 4-4-2 against Victory, for instance, wouldn't end well i don't think.

[MFKS]

but 4-4-2 against Victory, for instance, wouldn't end well i don't think.


Why wouldn't it work??

You have two blokes up front you keep their over lapping fullbacks interested as they are afraid to push on all day as they are worried about the numbers at the back.

There goes a lot of their width in attack straight away

[RAM]

Why wouldn't it work??

You have two blokes up front you keep their over lapping fullbacks interested as they are afraid to push on all day as they are worried about the numbers at the back.

There goes a lot of their width in attack straight away

4-3-3 keeps wingbacks much more entertained imo

[plague]

Doomed.
Miller out.
etc etc.....

[hawk]

Why wouldn't it work??

You have two blokes up front you keep their over lapping fullbacks interested as they are afraid to push on all day as they are worried about the numbers at the back.

There goes a lot of their width in attack straight away

Carney is playing so we have no chance?

[synapse101]

I think we have a chance against Perth. They are doing just as poorly as us on the table and in the last 5 rounds.

I also think its interesting that its round 16 and this is our first meeting Perth, yet we've played Sydney FC three times already. Maybe we have had a harder run of opposition up to this point?

PS. This is my first time posting after stalking these forums for a while, so Hi Everyone!

[Grimario]

Commiserations on being a Jets supporter.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

We'll lose. We never win in Perth. Even when we're playing well. (Which is never)..

2-0 to the purple has my money.

[Bon]

We'll lose. We never win in Perth. Even when we're playing well. (Which is never)..

2-0 to the purple has my money.

It's at home though, Sweet Baby Ray..
Oh thats right, its Perth, we will still lose..

[Roundball Enthusiast]

It's at home though, Sweet Baby Ray..
Oh thats right, its Perth, we will still lose..

Just realised we're at home.

Same result though, just at home. So you can all see me get mad/sad...

0-2 Perf.

[Jeterpool]

I think we have a chance against Perth. They are doing just as poorly as us on the table and in the last 5 rounds.

I also think its interesting that its round 16 and this is our first meeting Perth, yet we've played Sydney FC three times already. Maybe we have had a harder run of opposition up to this point?

PS. This is my first time posting after stalking these forums for a while, so Hi Everyone!

Welcome to the mad house

[leftrightout]

Just out of interest Jeterpool, last week we scored 2 goals in the first half. Before that, when was the last time we did it?

[StannyCFCJET]

wellington first game of season??? or was that only one

[Jeterpool]

Just out of interest Jeterpool, last week we scored 2 goals in the first half. Before that, when was the last time we did it?

Rd 22 last year v Wanderers. Alivodic and Ki-je scored.

At home it was Rd 5 last year v Victory. Kew and Griff scored within 2 minutes of each other.

[Jeterpool]

wellington first game of season??? or was that only one

Only one

[Superdylan]

We're in the middle of a really important period of our season. We have 3 matches with fellow 6th spot contenders - playing Wellington, Perth and Adelaide. If we win these 3 matches we are back in with a shout. Lose this weekend and we are back in 9th again.

If we are going to take anything from the season we need to win this game.

Perth are going to be similar to Wellington in so much as they are missing Djulbic (injury) and Thwaite (transfer). Their young defender Collard is suspended too. Plus they have Marc Warren in their line up so if that's not an advantage for us I don't know what is.

I think we can back last weekend's result up this week.

I'd be playing Cowburn in Kantaroski's place this week and after another week's rest I'd consider where Leonardo fits. If we stick with the 4-4-2 then play Kitto. If we return to normal service I'd play Leonardo.

Well said jeterpool. Definitely a winnable game on sunday I just hope last weeks game gave the boys abit of a confidence boost.

Going for a 2-0 win to Newcastle here.

[StannyCFCJET]

i reckon carney could play where kitto plays and leonardo when he EARNS his sport back could play up front with triffo linking with him and running off his flick ons into space

[Roundball Enthusiast]

i reckon carney could play where kitto plays and leonardo when he EARNS his sport back could play up front with triffo linking with him and running off his flick ons into space

This would be great, we'd definitely have the slowest front 3 in the comp then. :)

[Bon]

Well said jeterpool. Definitely a winnable game on sunday I just hope last weeks game gave the boys abit of a confidence boost.

Going for a 2-0 win to Newcastle here.

I'm going with whatever SD says..
He tipped a perfect round last week.. Well in, mate..

[Jeterpool]

Golec has been released from Perth. I've no idea who they will put in defence.

[StannyCFCJET]

Enver and Leo have pace and carney showed last sunday he can run when he wants to

[rhysd]

Just read Polaxe has an 85% passing accuracy this season. He really does go unnoticed.

[StannyCFCJET]

yeah but he's slow and players have been ghosting past him in midfield past couple of weeks also against WSW and Sydney recently he was ball watching alot

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Just read Polaxe has an 85% passing accuracy this season. He really does go unnoticed.

It's easy to pass backwards.

[StannyCFCJET]

It's easy to pass backwards.

This sums up our season so far as well as the line "What a Save Birighitti"

[rhysd]

It's easy to pass backwards.

Appears to do that better than others then. Good on him.

[plague]

Soz, didn't realise home game.

We will draw etc etc.

Miller out still though.

[plague]

Might go though.
Prob rain though so **** that.

[terry]

This would be great, we'd definitely have the slowest front 3 in the comp then. :)

ya think donkey

[Superdylan]

I'm going with whatever SD says..
He tipped a perfect round last week.. Well in, mate..

Yeah welll I always tip the jets haha.

Won't forgive myself if I tip against them on a tipping comp.

[hawk]

We havent lost a 5pm Sunday game for ages. Our new formation makes us like barca. win 8-1

[lquiquer]

So Ugarkovic playing Sunday?

[Bon]

So Ugarkovic playing Sunday?

Facey said he would be back for it..

[StannyCFCJET]

So Ugarkovic playing Sunday?

Cowburn and Urgarkovic in the mids I want to see this happen

[Jeterpool]

THE REFEREE: – Shaun Evans

This is the 4th Jets match Evans will officiate this season.
The only other match Evans has refereed between these two teams ended in a draw.
The Jets record (W-D-L) is 1-3-3.
Evans has booked David Carney twice already this season.
Evans also dismissed Nigel Boogaard in Round 1.
Evans awards an average 17 fouls per match.

[Couscous]

This is my favourite A-League fixture. Can't wait; may be able to attend, too.

Jets 6-2 Glory.

[outsider]

THE REFEREE: – Shaun Evans

This is the 4th Jets match Evans will officiate this season.
The only other match Evans has refereed between these two teams ended in a draw.
The Jets record (W-D-L) is 1-3-3.
Evans has booked David Carney twice already this season.
Evans also dismissed Nigel Boogaard in Round 1.
Evans awards an average 17 fouls per match.


Fourthy-Ben Williams

[Retro Jet]

If that useless piece of crap Chris Harold scores, I'm gonna neck m'self.

[MFKS]

If that useless piece of crap Chris Harold scores, I'm gonna neck m'self.

Always does

We are his bitches

[Jeterpool]

If that useless piece of crap Chris Harold scores, I'm gonna neck m'self.

This is a bit of a myth. He has scored against us 3 times in 10 appearances. It probably comes from the fact he's scored the winner on those 3 occasions.

[RAM]

Harold is the type of player we miss, fast and can finish.

Ours are either slow or can't hit the side of a barn.

[hawk]

Harold is the type of player we miss, fast and can finish.

Ours are either slow or can't hit the side of a barn.

his last game was pretty ordinary and we all judge a player on their last performance:wink:

[MFKS]

Listening to the wireless today on the way home Millertime was pontificating about the dilemna he is faced with of putting Leonardo back in the side this week or seeing as we won reward the blokes who played well last week by naming an unchanged side.


I take it he ain't planning on playing with 10 men from Kick Off as Kanta is suspended???

[lquiquer]

Listening to the wireless today on the way home Millertime was pontificating about the dilemna he is faced with of putting Leonardo back in the side this week or seeing as we won reward the blokes who played well last week by naming an unchanged side.


I take it he ain't planning on playing with 10 men from Kick Off as Kanta is suspended???

4-1-3-2 ?.......He already changed his tactic for the first time last week mate....:rof:

[namwob99]

Harold is the type of player we miss, fast and can finish.

Ours are either slow or can't hit the side of a barn.

'Harold' and 'can finish' should never ever be said together!!

[hawk]

I take it he ain't planning on playing with 10 men from Kick Off as Kanta is suspended???

ai not?

[parksey]

Listening to the wireless today on the way home Millertime was pontificating about the dilemna he is faced with of putting Leonardo back in the side this week or seeing as we won reward the blokes who played well last week by naming an unchanged side.


I take it he ain't planning on playing with 10 men from Kick Off as Kanta is suspended???

laughed out lough

[Tommyjet]

Something wrong with the forum?

[weston]

Best corner I've seen carney take all year.

[Couscous]

Something wrong with the forum?

Yes, members' reputations keep going red for no reason whatsoever. I've mentioned it to Furns but it's still happening.

[boz-monaut]

word from the game is that Retro has topped himself after watching that Perth goal

can only assume the other 9,999 at the game were already dead inside and didn't need to

[Hunter403]

Can anyone explain what Watson is doing out there cause by my reckoning they are just running straight past him.

[Hunter403]

Game gone

[weston]

Normal service resumed...

[matty]

i reckon ol shauny evans the bricklayer from melbourne knows boogs has pictures of his mrs on his phone

[halo se7en]

Fair red for anyone watching at home? Didn't look like it from here but can't tell from where I'm sitting. Btw are the squadron still boycotting games?

[plague]

I'm at the ground.
What an epic shitshow.
Someone in da squadronz really doesn't like Jackson.

More please.

[MFKS]

Bullshit 2nd yellow for a dive but to be perfectly fair he was lucky he didn't get straight red for the first yellow

The two blokes in DM today are ****ed

Get them both off.Poljak and Watson are ****ing donkeys

The other thing that is killing us is a complete lack of pressure on the ball from the front to back

FFS stop jockeying all day and close

Our attack though not scintillating does look a lot better


Suppose with 10 it is now time to park the bus and try and limit it to a 5-1 defeat

[halo se7en]

Either we had a good first 15 or that's how long it took Perth to warm up. Once Perth put their foot on the ball, we haven't been in it. Miller might as well play 3 at the back, take Watson off, put Leo on, and just go for ****ing broke.

[steve136]

What the f*ck are they doing?

Nobody tries to win the ball back. They all just stand around and f*cking watch. Occasionally, one will just sprint at the guy with the ball and go right past the player. My favourite part of Jets games is watching Carney in defence. Just walks around to an area he reckons he should be in and stands there, regardless of where the ball is. The rest are just about as bad.

[MFKS]

Listening to the wireless today on the way home Millertime was pontificating about the dilemna he is faced with of putting Leonardo back in the side this week or seeing as we won reward the blokes who played well last week by naming an unchanged side.


I take it he ain't planning on playing with 10 men from Kick Off as Kanta is suspended???

Putting Watson out there has seen the prophecy fulfilled.

How the **** does Cowburn not get a start and this failure does???

[weston]

Fair red for anyone watching at home? Didn't look like it from here but can't tell from where I'm sitting. Btw are the squadron still boycotting games?
Boogs first yellow was 50/50. He touched Harold's back but it looked to me more like Harold dropped once he realised he wasn't getting the ball again. Second yellow doesn't even touch him.

[Hunter403]

Get Cowburn on now. Take Watson out the back and shoot him.

[MFKS]

I'm at the ground.
What an epic shitshow.
Someone in da squadronz really doesn't like Jackson.

More please.
Get to Wests buddy. The comeback starts when you hit the roulette wheels

[plague]

Get to Wests buddy. The comeback starts when you hit the roulette wheels

Sorry Boss, I don't do RSL's.
Besides, miss all the lulz coming in the 2nd half? No way.

See you for a kick on the pitch at full time.

[MFKS]

Watson has been hooked for Cowburn at HT

Thank **** for that

[steve136]

lol

[plague]

Good finish.

[steve136]

Put Mullen up top. Most confident finish from us all season.

[Hunter403]

This could be a long second half

[MFKS]

Was Harold the bloke Mullen was trying to stop the ball getting too offside???

[lquiquer]

Can't wait for the presser

[steve136]

They'll score 7.

[Hunter403]

Smells like Adelaide.

[lquiquer]

Smells like Adelaide.

Who's going to train in the sandpit for next 3 months?...

[Imyourhero]

wow. I stopped watching at 30th minute, weren't playing too bad.....came back at 56th min...ffs 4-1 and a red.

[Hunter403]

We better sign Harold. Absolutely useless at every ground except ours

[steve136]

Starting to feel nostalgic for the Stubbins' days

[Hunter403]

Great forward planning : game gone so get Leonardo on to get some game time in his legs fir next week. Brilliant!

[steve136]

I know we only have one red card, but it deadset looks like a 7 v 11 game out there.

[Hunter403]

I know we only have one red card, but it deadset looks like a 7 v 11 game out there.

7 on 11 training run with no tackling allowed

[MFKS]

That 6 th goal is a ****ing disgrace

How can you show that little desperation with a bloke 8 yards from your goal

FMD

[matty]

stubbins in
miller out

[MFKS]

What price next week we are parking the bus???

Guaranteed

[The Dunster]

Nigel Boogaard is not a defenders arse. For the first yellow he had ample time to compete for the ball and win it. Instead his instinct was to immediately foul the opposition player.
He makes the odd good tackle but he is easily distracted by the opposition and they know they can get the better of him mentally without too much effort.
Barely excusable for a squad player but totally unacceptable from a captain on a lot of money.

We will never have a winning season as long as he is here.

After the 1st Perth goal you could see it coming a mile away and I clapped and cheered every time Perth scored.

I hate this club, I hate the players, and I hate the coach and his entourage of khunts who wouldn't find job anywhere else.

Get ****ed Jets.

[steve136]

I hate this club, I hate the players, and I hate the coach and his entourage of khunts who wouldn't find job anywhere else.

Get ****ed Jets.

Couldn't have said it any better.

[StannyCFCJET]

disgusting useless cowards and miller is an idiot enough with picking players on name or experience pick on form only so watson poijak and Milos can piss off and hungry committed players can come in. Also we dont have players who can pass long but our attacking 4 stand soo far way ****ing hell

[steve136]

disgusting useless cowards and miller is an idiot enough with picking players on name or experience pick on form only so watson poijak and Milos can piss off and hungry committed players can come in. Also we dont have players who can pass long but our attacking 4 stand soo far way ****ing hell

Could have said it better.

[plague]

If that useless piece of crap Chris Harold scores, I'm gonna neck m'self.

This is a bit of a myth. He has scored against us 3 times in 10 appearances. It probably comes from the fact he's scored the winner on those 3 occasions.

https://www.copyrightsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/myth-busted.jpg

[halo se7en]

Everyone stop your whinging. Clearly we achieved a BP of 3 and a BPO of 5 so we've met our matchday KPIs! Perth are kidding themselves if they think they won this game. Kutgw Jets.

[Tommyjet]

Miller should be jp's assistant!

[StannyCFCJET]

Miller should be jp's assistant!

100% agree

[Grimario]

Glad i didn't watch again. So much easier being a Jets supporter when you don't care.

[The Dunster]

This is Millers first ever gig as a manager. He was coach at Fullham for the U21's not Manager as seems to have been implied from the get go.

He has absolutely no credibility beyond that of a fitness trainer. To think he was going to get this team firing was a complete joke.

As for the Psychology / Sports science degree it's a science more akin to tarot card reading - the limits of which were well and truly on display today.

[Jeterpool]

https://www.copyrightsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/myth-busted.jpg

Lol. Funniest thing I've seen since our defending today

[parksey]

actually can't believe how amateur we looked

the lack of pressure on the ball has been a problem since round 1 and the coaching staff have yet to do anything about it.

castro's 2 goals were ****ing pathetic

[WolfMan]

As for the Psychology / Sports science degree it's a science more akin to tarot card reading - the limits of which were well and truly on display today.

Love this. Have some +rep

[plague]

As for the Psychology / Sports science degree it's a science more akin to tarot card reading - the limits of which were well and truly on display today.

Had a good seat near Miller tonight and during set pieces especially he was yelling out 'trigger words'.

Such horseshit.

[The Dunster]

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[The Dunster]

Had a good seat near Miller tonight and during set pieces especially he was yelling out 'trigger words'.

Such horseshit.

He's a complete ****ing goose. He's got a team that cannot pass the ball, are essentially static when in possession, and who navel gaze at the opposition while they are supposed to be defending.

[plague]

Have a look at the post match presser. He's got no ****ing idea.

Do I have to?
I've suffered enough.

[lquiquer]

Do I have to?
I've suffered enough.

I was looking forward to watch the presser but for whatever reason can't bother any more

[lquiquer]

By the way what was crowd figure this afternoon?.......(Start of the game not at 90 minutes thanks)...

[turbojetfireV8]

9400+

[lquiquer]

9400+

**** me dead....and that's what's on offer

[GazFish35]

We will lose 6-1

[joel31]

We started well and even before we scored I was feeling a similar result til last week then shit defending happened.

[joel31]

Boogard should be replaced as captain by Birraz. You can't have a captain who is indisciplined as much as he is

[Thomas477]

Weren't we down 2-0 in Melbourne at HT and managed to pull something out of the hat? Yes today was absolutely shambolic but I'm more blaming Boogard than Miller.

[turbojetfireV8]

think it says a lot when one of your best players on the field is Hoffman, ay least he looked like he was trying, rest of them looked like they'd been on a five day bender (including Birraz, if that was Kennedy in goals with that display there woulda been bloodstains on the goalline where the crowd shot him to put him outta his misery ;) )

[StannyCFCJET]

In the Post Match Presser he says i think you'll find we won one game last week lost one this week so its one step forward one step backward UMM WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 6-1 IS NOT ONE STEP BACKWARD FFS MILLER WHY YOU KNOW NOTHING

[parksey]

one win in 12 weeks is an anomaly not a step foward

[lquiquer]

Well watched it and he couldn't wait to get out of the room .... Ok that's it and arrivederci at the end....

[plague]

So Ernie Merrick has to quit now yeah? Getting beat by this pile of shit last week.

[lquiquer]

Like if talking about Carney in the media all week (not that much really) would explain the step backward today??!!... Miller Out

[lquiquer]

So Ernie Merrick has to quit now yeah? Getting beat by this pile of shit last week.

Come on mate Krishna was out

[Couscous]

So Ernie Merrick has to quit now yeah? Getting beat by this pile of shit last week.

Almost as good a coach as GVE. I'd support the Jets every week if Ernie were in charge.

[Mark325]

Overall piss poor performance, we were playing great up until about 15th minute. Even before Boogs got the red it didn't look like our game

Best player for us goes to either Hoff or Enver, worked the hardest which is better then most. How we're still playing Watson is beyond me

[WolfMan]

RE: the press conference - Miller says something like "we all saw when the game changed, we let Perth back in to the match"

A coach makes changes when he sees things going awry. Not just state the damn obvious after its all said and done.

[Tommyjet]

Anyone else see miller chuck a spaz with his chewy when Watson passed the ball 10 m wide of his target to the sideline? Can't believe it took him that long to realise picking Watson was a mistake

[Premy]

RE: the press conference - Miller says something like "we all saw when the game changed, we let Perth back in to the match"

A coach makes changes when he sees things going awry. Not just state the damn obvious after its all said and done.Whats to say he didn't or at least try to? A change isn't always a substitution and it doesn't always mean you'll be successful after it.
We could have Ange Postecoglu as our Manager, it wouldn't change a thing.
NEWS FLASH Miller has shit cattle and his in a drought.

FFA either give us to some farker who will at least pretend to spend money on us, or start dipping in to your own pokets you cheap Khunts.

[WolfMan]

Wasn't referring to substitutions. The same cattle controlled the game for the first 20 mins.

I meant a change in formation to combat getting overrun in midfield, a change in intensity, something. Anything. But no, as usual its plan A, and if that isn't working, refer to plan A.

[Premy]

Wasn't referring to substitutions. The same cattle controlled the game for the first 20 mins.

I meant a change in formation to combat getting overrun in midfield, a change in intensity, something. Anything. But no, as usual its plan A, and if that isn't working, refer to plan A.
Change doesn't mean success, just because a plan isn't working it doesn't mean you just desert it. Look at Brisbane during the Postucoglu years, several times they would be getting overun by teams but they stuck to what they knew best.

Miller has changed plans through games sometimes it's been successful most it hasn't. We could have Pep Gurdiola as manager and he could make a million changes but if none of them were the players then we would still have the same result.

[The Dunster]

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[The Dunster]

Change doesn't mean success, just because a plan isn't working it doesn't mean you just desert it. Look at Brisbane during the Postucoglu years, several times they would be getting overun by teams but they stuck to what they knew best.

Miller has changed plans through games sometimes it's been successful most it hasn't. We could have Pep Gurdiola as manager and he could make a million changes but if none of them were the players then we would still have the same result.

But the khunts that aren't aiming up are the ones Miller brought on board so he has to take responsibility for it. I mean Watson starts practically every week and is clearly not up to this level.

[Premy]

But the khunts that aren't aiming up are the ones Miller brought on board so he has to take responsibility for it. I mean Watson starts practically every week and is clearly not up to this level.

Not disputing that, however his hands have been tied as to who he could have on board due to FFA being as tight as a fishes arsehole.

2 people are to blame for the mess we are in Damien and David have clearly shown what Newcastle means to the hierarchy at the FFA and that's where anger should be pointed. JP and Miller imo have done the best they could having 2 hands tied behind their backs.

[Hunter403]

Our players are not, in general, good enough. Our management is part time and wasn't/isn't good enough to run NNSW football let alone an A League side. Our coach is a rookie as demonstrated by his lack of tactical nous during a game. His assistant is a proven performer.

My gripe with Miller is his lack of willingness to change what wasn't working, his constant selection of the traffic cone (Watson) and his poor substitution ideas.

My gripe with the players is their lack of heart. Never thought I'd see the day when our best on field was Hofmann.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Our players are not, in general, good enough. Our management is part time and wasn't/isn't good enough to run NNSW football let alone an A League side. Our coach is a rookie as demonstrated by his lack of tactical nous during a game. His assistant is a proven performer.

My gripe with Miller is his lack of willingness to change what wasn't working, his constant selection of the traffic cone (Watson) and his poor substitution ideas.

My gripe with the players is their lack of heart. Never thought I'd see the day when our best on field was Hofmann.

Didn't Miller change last week to 2 up front? And he kept them this week and went to 3 at the back when we went down to 10. A lot of coaches would go for 1 up front and try and jag a goal. It went horribly pear shaped (blame squarely at the feet of the players) and in hindsight was a very risky move, but isn't that what everyone on here wants? Or do they want expect attacking football and a sound defence with the players we have in the squad? (cause that is never going to happen).

I agree that Miller is struggling and has a huge amount to learn (as all first year coaches do), but he hasn't exactly been handed a plum job has he.

[hawk]

We were getting pumped for the last 25 mins of the 1st half with a full squad. No chance

[matty]

Not disputing that, however his hands have been tied as to who he could have on board due to FFA being as tight as a fishes arsehole.

2 people are to blame for the mess we are in Damien and David have clearly shown what Newcastle means to the hierarchy at the FFA and that's where anger should be pointed. JP and Miller imo have done the best they could having 2 hands tied behind their backs.

+1

[MFKS]

Didn't Miller change last week to 2 up front? And he kept them this week and went to 3 at the back when we went down to 10. A lot of coaches would go for 1 up front and try and jag a goal. It went horribly pear shaped (blame squarely at the feet of the players) and in hindsight was a very risky move, but isn't that what everyone on here wants? Or do they want expect attacking football and a sound defence with the players we have in the squad? (cause that is never going to happen).

I agree that Miller is struggling and has a huge amount to learn (as all first year coaches do), but he hasn't exactly been handed a plum job has he.

I agree with what you are saying there.

The second half cluster**** is not my problem.
He gambled with 3 at the back and it blew up spectacularly.

Where he failed is what he done between minutes 15-45 that saw us lose control of the game lose our lead go behind and lose our captain.

That is where WE lost the game yesterday.

As soon as Boogaard goes off we were ****ed with 10 men. FFS we struggle with 11

[WolfMan]

I agree with what you are saying there.

The second half cluster**** is not my problem.
He gambled with 3 at the back and it blew up spectacularly.

Where he failed is what he done between minutes 15-45 that saw us lose control of the game lose our lead go behind and lose our captain.

That is where WE lost the game yesterday.

As soon as Boogaard goes off we were ****ed with 10 men. FFS we struggle with 11

Precisely. Could see the game slipping away even before Perth scored. And nothing.

[synapse101]

I agree with what you are saying there.

The second half cluster**** is not my problem.
He gambled with 3 at the back and it blew up spectacularly.

Where he failed is what he done between minutes 15-45 that saw us lose control of the game lose our lead go behind and lose our captain.

That is where WE lost the game yesterday.

As soon as Boogaard goes off we were ****ed with 10 men. FFS we struggle with 11

And yet Miller says at the presser that Boogaard is a great skipper and no blame will be laid at his feet...

[MFKS]

And yet Miller says at the presser that Boogaard is a great skipper and no blame will be laid at his feet...

To be perfectly fair I can't see what he can say in this instance about that.

He hammers him in the press and he would cop it from all and sundry for publically bagging his players after a heavy loss.

Particularly if he picks one.

Reality is they all ****ed up yesterday coaching staff players the lot.

The loss is not Millertimes or Boogaards solely

All of them need to have a good look at themselves individually as well as collectively and take responsibility for what really was a capitulation of epic proportions even by our standards

Like FFS the first 15 mins was probably the best all season by a long way.

Who would have thought after Milos scored we would be walking away with a 6-1 loss??
FMD

[baldrick]

I don't know what you guys are complaining about.

I mean, how often do we get to see 7 goals in a home game !!!













Of course I'm joking.

[synapse101]

To be perfectly fair I can't see what he can say in this instance about that.

He hammers him in the press and he would cop it from all and sundry for publically bagging his players after a heavy loss.

Particularly if he picks one.

Reality is they all ****ed up yesterday coaching staff players the lot.

The loss is not Millertimes or Boogaards solely

All of them need to have a good look at themselves individually as well as collectively and take responsibility for what really was a capitulation of epic proportions even by our standards

FMD
I know he can't publicly hammer him, but he doesn't have to go ahead and praise him in that situation either. After 15 minutes the whole thing was an absolute mess, you can't sugar coat that.

[The Dunster]

To be perfectly fair I can't see what he can say in this instance about that.

He hammers him in the press and he would cop it from all and sundry for publically bagging his players after a heavy loss.

Particularly if he picks one.

Reality is they all ****ed up yesterday coaching staff players the lot.

The loss is not Millertimes or Boogaards solely

All of them need to have a good look at themselves individually as well as collectively and take responsibility for what really was a capitulation of epic proportions even by our standards

Like FFS the first 15 mins was probably the best all season by a long way.

Who would have thought after Milos scored we would be walking away with a 6-1 loss??
FMD

Our defense was back pedaling / shitting itself for 90 mins.
We give the opposition way way way too much space at the top of the box or on the flanks to put crosses into dangerous areas.
I doubt Boogard would get a gig anywhere else for even half the money the Jets are paying him. He has his moments but he is definitely not a signing you would attempt to build a team around.

Not even going to bother to discuss our inability to keep possession.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

I agree with what you are saying there.

The second half cluster**** is not my problem.
He gambled with 3 at the back and it blew up spectacularly.

Where he failed is what he done between minutes 15-45 that saw us lose control of the game lose our lead go behind and lose our captain.

That is where WE lost the game yesterday.

As soon as Boogaard goes off we were ****ed with 10 men. FFS we struggle with 11

Cant argue too heartily with that assessment. If Boogard keeps his head we may (note: may) have been able to regroup at half time, but when he got sent we were no chance. But there is no doubt that for the majority of the first half we were second best.

[MFKS]

Our defense was back pedaling / shitting itself for 90 mins.
We give the opposition way way way too much space at the top of the box or on the flanks to put crosses into dangerous areas.
I doubt Boogard would get a gig anywhere else for even half the money the Jets are paying him. He has his moments but he is definitely not a signing you would attempt to build a team around.

Not even going to bother to discuss our inability to keep possession.

To me Boogaard although getting sent yesterday letting team down etc isn't the issue here.
Yes he is over paid yes we shouldn't be building a side around him.

The bloke is a HAL level defender only. He ain't a gun defender but is our best by a mile

The blokes who looked amateur yesterday were Mullen and Jackson

Jackson has no attacking game to play fullback and gets caught out of position and on his heels far too much.
Not knocking his potential but if the coach is gonna play someone out of position how about coaching him to play there???

As for Mullen he is a squad player at a competent HAL club.
Why we have him beats me. He aint a starter but a squaddie.
Gee he got exposed big time yesterday countless times.


If we want to see someone with not the most ability bring Taylor Reegz back.
At least he is Newy all the way and gives a **** every game

[stopper2]

To me Boogaard although getting sent yesterday letting team down etc isn't the issue here.
Yes he is over paid yes we shouldn't be building a side around him.

The bloke is a HAL level defender only. He ain't a gun defender but is our best by a mile

The blokes who looked amateur yesterday were Mullen and Jackson

Jackson has no attacking game to play fullback and gets caught out of position and on his heels far too much.
Not knocking his potential but if the coach is gonna play someone out of position how about coaching him to play there???

As for Mullen he is a squad player at a competent HAL club.
Why we have him beats me. He aint a starter but a squaddie.
Gee he got exposed big time yesterday countless times.


If we want to see someone with not the most ability bring Taylor Reegz back.
At least he is Newy all the way and gives a **** every game

Just to add to your comments regarding Mullen, recall when it was mentioned in the pre-season before we had signed Leonardo or Trifunovic that Carney, Boogs, Lee Ki-Je, BK and Mullen were our highest paid players in the squad....thank you Phil!!!

[hawk]

ref was a prick, if that was a send off (no contact) then this game is fked

[MFKS]

ref was a prick, if that was a send off (no contact) then this game is fked

No doubt about it that Evans is hopeless

Yes it was a dive.

Yes it was harsh to get a second yellow for that

That also being said I thought Boogaard was lucky with the first yellow as he could have been ruled the last man easily.

Seen red in similar situations and I wasn't seeing much cover to stop Harold yet for some reason this ref was seeing it??

[halo se7en]

ref was a prick, if that was a send off (no contact) then this game is fked

Dive or not, it was a stupid lunge to make in the middle of nowhere right on HT.

[The Dunster]

No doubt about it that Evans is hopeless

Yes it was a dive.

Yes it was harsh to get a second yellow for that

That also being said I thought Boogaard was lucky with the first yellow as he could have been ruled the last man easily.

Seen red in similar situations and I wasn't seeing much cover to stop Harold yet for some reason this ref was seeing it??

Absolutely, Ref should have marched Boogaard for the first offence. He made absolutely no attempt to get to the ball and he was the last line of defense as well.

Now if Boogaard can't back himself against Harold then you really have to wonder how he can justify his wages.

[lquiquer]

I miss Leaky..... Jerks miss him 2 I think

[Jetmaster]

Yesterday showed why we should not bend over for Carney. Couldnt be bothered once we went behind. Plays for himself.

[plague]

Biggest discgrace yesterday making the kiddies wait 20 mins to go out on the park.
Apparently ground crew couldn't move a few Bunnings chairs without all the great unwashed running around.
Not to mention making sure the precious players had to get off the park for fear of touching anyone.

FFS, that Perth ressie keeper was out there in full kit cuddling babies, Adam Peacock was standing there taking it all in and no one bothered them.

Next time: as soon as the whistle goes, open the gates and it's a free for all. If not all players make it back to the sheds without a bit of nonsense from the punters then tough titties.

I'd def come back with Plague Jnr if this was to happen.

[MFKS]

Yesterday showed why we should not bend over for Carney. Couldnt be bothered once we went behind. Plays for himself.

Bang on there.

Senior player on big wages NT player back in the day.

Where is the leadership from him???

Not to be seen at all

[plague]

Bang on there.

Senior player on big wages NT player back in the day.

Where is the leadership from him???

Not to be seen at all

He stayed and signed stuff for the kids at f/t though.

[hawk]

Dive or not, it was a stupid lunge to make in the middle of nowhere right on HT.

neither of those emotive comments mean a red. next

[hawk]

I miss Leaky..... Jerks miss him 2 I think

he is still here, we're leaky as all hell

[Jeterpool]

He stayed and signed stuff for the kids at f/t though.

Nothing to do with his performance on the park

[halo se7en]

neither of those emotive comments mean a red. next

What part of "lunge" is emotive? He missed the ball, and may or may not have clipped the player. And it wasn't a red. It was a yellow. Most (if not all) refs would have done the same thing. I'm more concerned that our captain is stupid enough to put himself in that position.

[lquiquer]

he is still here, we're leaky as all hell

Good one hawk ....:roflz:

[Thomas477]

Doesn't matter if Boogs got the player or not. The LotG state that a direct free kick is awarded awarded when a player kicks/trips or attempts to. If it is done in a reckless manner, it's a yellow card. Boogs kicked/attempted to kick the glory player by recklessly lunging in. Or, failing that, it was a professional foul, which meant he was booked for unsporting conduct by breaking up a promising attack.

Either way it was valid.

[borat]

Lowey's synopsis in the Herald today is bang on what went wrong. Game was lost once the Glory started to dominate the midfield on about 20-30mins. Oxborrow/Castro/Marinkovic were playing a short passing game with lots of triangles and we were so slow to react. Embarrassing in a different league slow. Poljak and Watson are just not in the same class as other midfields.

Once the midfield battle was won the Glory started to play diagonal balls into Harold whose pace was killing Boogs and Mullen. Boogs got left behind on a few occasions before he started sliding in to try and cut out the ball early.

Full credit to Kenny Lowe for a game plan that schooled Miller. I haven't posted a negative comment about Miller before but the 3 at the back was possibly the most naive coaching decision I have ever seen. And why it took so long to change it when the glory were quite literally lining up on the edges to get the ball is baffling.

[borat]

Yesterday showed why we should not bend over for Carney. Couldnt be bothered once we went behind. Plays for himself.

I wouldn't go that far. Carney had literally zero ball to do anything with it and looked very dangerous in the opening 15mins.

To me it shows that 230k is wasted on a player who can't get the ball. Spend it in the middle of the park and let's see the difference

[StannyCFCJET]

Lowey's synopsis in the Herald today is bang on what went wrong. Game was lost once the Glory started to dominate the midfield on about 20-30mins. Oxborrow/Castro/Marinkovic were playing a short passing game with lots of triangles and we were so slow to react. Embarrassing in a different league slow. Poljak and Watson are just not in the same class as other midfields.

Once the midfield battle was won the Glory started to play diagonal balls into Harold whose pace was killing Boogs and Mullen. Boogs got left behind on a few occasions before he started sliding in to try and cut out the ball early.

Full credit to Kenny Lowe for a game plan that schooled Miller. I haven't posted a negative comment about Miller before but the 3 at the back was possibly the most naive coaching decision I have ever seen. And why it took so long to change it when the glory were quite literally lining up on the edges to get the ball is baffling.

Glory had fast players running in behind so 3 at the back was ****ing stupid all we needed was some quick guys in the centre of the park to press quickly and win the ball back. I dont want to see watson and poijak again soo slow and get bypassed way to easily

[StannyCFCJET]

I wouldn't go that far. Carney had literally zero ball to do anything with it and looked very dangerous in the opening 15mins.

To me it shows that 230k is wasted on a player who can't get the ball. Spend it in the middle of the park and let's see the difference

but when our team is under pump or struggling you look to your senior players or star players for guidance and help pulling the team back into the game but Carney is to lazy to do that. If the team is out of form or struggling he just stands around watching the game

[Jeterpool]

I'm not sure if someone mentioned this before but the loss on the weekend was the same date we lost 7-0 to Adelaide last year!

[Tommyjet]

I'm not sure if someone mentioned this before but the loss on the weekend was the same date we lost 7-0 to Adelaide last year!
Right, has anyone been to training to see if carney is raging, along with 4 others of course.

[Jeterpool]

Right, has anyone been to training to see if carney is raging, along with 4 others of course.

:rof: All the shit should have gone down by now

[Jeterpool]

For me, this perfectly summarised our performance last week


https://youtu.be/AKXlhpeb6wI

[furns]

For me, this perfectly summarised our performance last week


https://youtu.be/AKXlhpeb6wI
Hence why it's the lead-in for this week's jetstream podcast :thumbsup:

[Couscous]

Didn't watch. How did the n00bs go?

[furns]

In keeping with the theme of his reviews - Gazs review of the Perth game is now up on the front page