The Daily International News Thread

[Jeterpool]

Their supporters the list goes on

I never knew you felt this way about me!

[StannyCFCJET]

I never knew you felt this way about me!

Unless everything offends you like the mob over there, Your ok Jeterpool. I could never hate a Jetstream legend

[Jeterpool]

Unless everything offends you like the mob over there, Your ok Jeterpool. I could never hate a Jetstream legend

:rof:

[Bremsstrahlung]

Lampard > Hazard....discuss




:popcorn:

[Frodo]

What are people's thoughts on Shearer's comment about Aguero being the greatest import in EPL History.

I mean, we already know he is better than Hazard, but has he already earned legendary status? Cause there have been some amazing foreigners who conquered the EPL.


He's in my top 5.

1. Henry
2. Ronaldo.
3. Bergkamp
4. Drogba
5. Aguero

6. Cantona. He was probably as good or maybe even better than Aguero but I didn't get to watch him in his prime so I don't have as accurate an opinion of him as others.





71. Bendtner.
72. Hazard.

[StannyCFCJET]

What are people's thoughts on Shearer's comment about Aguero being the greatest import in EPL History.

I mean, we already know he is better than Hazard, but has he already earned legendary status? Cause there have been some amazing foreigners who conquered the EPL.


He's in my top 5.

1. Henry
2. Ronaldo.
3. Bergkamp
4. Drogba
5. Aguero

6. Cantona. He was probably as good or maybe even better than Aguero but I didn't get to watch him in his prime so I don't have as accurate an opinion of him as others.





71. Bendtner.
72. Hazard.

Cant have Drogba in there too many seasons he struggled to get over 10 goals. and Augero has to be either 1 or 2 based on stats alone but Henry number 1 no arguments there. put Cantona in your top 5 and have Zola at 6

[Jeterpool]

What are people's thoughts on Shearer's comment about Aguero being the greatest import in EPL History.

I mean, we already know he is better than Hazard, but has he already earned legendary status? Cause there have been some amazing foreigners who conquered the EPL.


He's in my top 5.

1. Henry
2. Ronaldo.
3. Bergkamp
4. Drogba
5. Aguero

6. Cantona. He was probably as good or maybe even better than Aguero but I didn't get to watch him in his prime so I don't have as accurate an opinion of him as others.





71. Bendtner.
72. Hazard.

It's a big call by Shearer. Aguero has certainly delivered consistently but I don't see him (rightly or wrongly) in the same tier as those you mention ubt he could easily be considered and likely will once he leaves the Prem. Maybe I think that way because of the reduced amount of football I watch now I've got a young family? Maybe it's because i consumed football by watching the SBS Premier Highlights show when Bergkamp and Henry were playing so their skill is over-glamorised. I've said it before, Bergkamp is my favourite Premier League player (who didn't play for Liverpool). He was brilliant.

Regardless, I think I agree with your top 4. 5th - Aguero, Suarez, Cech, Van Nistelrooy, Torres... maybe someone from there. It's interesting how the players have all finished and their legacy perhaps increases longer they've been out the game. I know others won't agree, but someone like Sami Hyypia was terrific during his time at Liverpool.

[Jeterpool]

Cant have Drogba in there too many seasons he struggled to get over 10 goals. and Augero has to be either 1 or 2 based on stats alone but Henry number 1 no arguments there. put Cantona in your top 5 and have Zola at 6

I didn't recall Drogba's struggles and that surprises me!

Zola is another name I considered. interesting, but not surprising, how all these names are attackers/strikers

[The Dunster]

You are all wrong. Peter Schmeichel is the best ever EPL import.

[StannyCFCJET]

I didn't recall Drogba's struggles and that surprises me!

Zola is another name I considered. interesting, but not surprising, how all these names are attackers/strikers

Always seemed to find a goal in the big games thats why but only got over 10 goals 5 of his 9 seasons in the prem and only got over 15 twice

[StannyCFCJET]

You are all wrong. Peter Schmeichel is the best ever EPL import.

Actually a fair shout with how he changed goal keeping in england IMO

[plague]

Without Zola and Cantona doing what they did, the rest of the blokes on those lists prob wouldn't have ever shown up.

Dunster has provided a very good contender. I ain't making a definitive pick but Schmeichel was way more influential/successful than Ageuro.



Plus Arsene Wenger.

[baldrick]

1. Henry

3. Bergkamp


.


You can stop right there..watching those two together is why I'm an Arsenal fan. Sublime.


Cantona was amazing to watch too. Totally bonkers at times, but still amazing.

[Bluebeard]

An import from Scotland would make my top ten, Sir Kenny Dalglish.


Showing my age, that was not in the EPL, my bad

[StannyCFCJET]

An import from Scotland would make my top ten, Sir Kenny Dalglish.

Wasnt he before the prem?

[StannyCFCJET]

This rotational fouling needs to stop and refs need to grow a pair a send people off no matter how early in the game. Ritchie for Newcastle should've been sent off after 2 mins

[MFKS]

Zola
1000 x times the player than that flog Hazard and still better than Aguero
Pires
Viera
Henry
Cantona
Bergkamp
Van Nistlerooy
Ginola
CR7
Schmeical

All better than Kun Aguero

**** I would have David Silva ahead of Aguero


Alan Shearer must have been smoking a crack pipe when he come up with that one

FMD

[MFKS]

Like Jeterpool, I've been consuming bulk amounts of popcorn while watching this scrap of a thread..

I'm confused though. Where has this sudden hatred for Liverpool come from, Stanny??

Think there is a lot of dislike for Liverpool in general

How many mods on here support them??
A few by my counts

Probably why no one says **** all about them

[StannyCFCJET]

Zola
1000 x times the player than that flog Hazard and still better than Aguero
Pires
Viera
Henry
Cantona
Bergkamp
Van Nistlerooy
Ginola
CR7
Schmeical

All better than Kun Aguero

**** I would have David Silva ahead of Aguero


Alan Shearer must have been smoking a crack pipe when he come up with that one

FMD

Seven full seasons in the prem Augero has over 20 goals 5 of those season even with his injuries so why is Shearer so wrong for suggesting Augero is the best import

Also need to take into account of time spend in the prem and anyone under 4-5 seasons shouldn't get a mention IMO

[MFKS]

Seven full seasons in the prem Augero has over 20 goals 5 of those season even with his injuries so why is Shearer so wrong for suggesting Augero is the best import

Also need to take into account of time spend in the prem and anyone under 4-5 seasons shouldn't get a mention IMO

RVN Man U
Career
219 Games 150 goals
League
150 EPL Games 95 goals

Aguero Man City
Career
295 Games 204 goals
League
208 EPL Games 146 goals

Henry Arsenal
Career
369 games 226 goals
League
254 Games 174 goals

His stats dont exactly set him apart from these two do they ??

[StannyCFCJET]

RVN Man U
Career
219 Games 150 goals
League
150 EPL Games 95 goals

Aguero Man City
Career
295 Games 204 goals
League
208 EPL Games 146 goals

Henry Arsenal
Career
369 games 226 goals
League
254 Games 174 goals

His stats dont exactly set him apart from these two do they ??

Yeah but longevity and he could player another 3-4 years in the prem and keep scoring loads

[StannyCFCJET]

Obviously the Answer is Henry but Augero comes close no matter what people think

[MFKS]

Obviously the Answer is Henry but Augero comes close no matter what people think

Considering Henry started as a winger and Wenger converted him to a striker

His stats shit all over Agueros

[StannyCFCJET]

Considering Henry started as a winger and Wenger converted him to a striker

His stats shit all over Agueros

Henry was more of a all round attacker then a proper number 9 like someone like RVN, Also He wont be considered but Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink did wonders in the prem

[goaliepersempre]

Henry was more of a all round attacker then a proper number 9 like someone like RVN, Also He wont be considered but Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink did wonders in the prem

or anelka for help building our training grounds... hahaha

but yeah Henry hands down...

[plague]

why is Shearer so wrong for suggesting Augero is the best import


because the one true stat that matter reveals Aguero to be a total fraud.

He is currently 88th all time in EPL assists, behind such luminaries as:

Matthew Everington
Niall Quinn.
Harry Kewell.
Morten Gamst Pedersen.
Steed Malbranque.
Nobby Solano.



Case closed.

[Frodo]

because the one true stat that matter reveals Aguero to be a total fraud.

He is currently 88th all time in EPL assists, behind such luminaries as:

Matthew Everington
Niall Quinn.
Harry Kewell.
Morten Gamst Pedersen.
Steed Malbranque.
Nobby Solano.



Case closed.

"mic drop"

[Bon]

Think there is a lot of dislike for Liverpool in general

How many mods on here support them??
A few by my counts

Probably why no one says **** all about them

Oh, I'm not surprised by it usually..
I just hadn't seen/heard Stanny go to town on them so much before..

[Bremsstrahlung]

Think there is a lot of dislike for Liverpool in general

How many mods on here support them??
A few by my counts

Probably why no one says **** all about them

Think they get their fair share..
The Liverpool thread is 50% supporters trying to be positive, but resigned to the fact we may thump city 4-0 and lose 1-0 to Crystal Palace at home the week after.
And 50% hating on them.

[pv4]

How did that entire Hazard debate go by without Modric mentioned?

Modric has overtaken Iniesta for the top spot and anyone whom disagrees is a plastic.

[StannyCFCJET]

How did that entire Hazard debate go by without Modric mentioned?

Modric has overtaken Iniesta for the top spot and anyone whom disagrees is a plastic.

Because comparing CMs and Wingers is dumb

[Frodo]

Because comparing CMs and Wingers is dumb

The claim was that Hazard was top 5 players in the world. Do you even pay attention to what you are arguing about?


Modric is easily top 5 current players.

[StannyCFCJET]

The claim was that Hazard was top 5 players in the world. Do you even pay attention to what you are arguing about?


Modric is easily top 5 current players.

Yeah but then people were comparing their out put or stuff that only works for certain positions

[plague]

How did that entire Hazard debate go by without Modric mentioned?

Modric has overtaken Iniesta for the top spot and anyone whom disagrees is a plastic.

nah the original question was 'if you were starting a football team tomorrow who would you have' so we ushered out old timers as were were looking forward.

i picked Hazard over most of the current crop because i think he is a young, dominant player who can boss a game (except when Alan Shearer says he DONT WANT IT ENUFF).

I will ignore your poorly aimed barb about the Don as I am not that stupid, and neither are you.

[plague]

The claim was that Hazard was top 5 players in the world.

well, to be Mr #wellactually, the term was 'top handful'.

and to be fair my homie has big big hands, might fit more than five in them.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I’m legit curious to see who gets UEFA player of the year.

[StannyCFCJET]

I’m legit curious to see who gets UEFA player of the year.

Why it's always going to be Messi or Ronaldo. The award is a farce

[Bremsstrahlung]

Why it's always going to be Messi or Ronaldo. The award is a farce

UEFA...
This one is down to Salah, Modric and Ronaldo.

[StannyCFCJET]

UEFA...
This one is down to Salah, Modric and Ronaldo.

Wait so only European players? Ahh then Ronaldo non contest

[Bremsstrahlung]

Wait so only European players? Ahh then Ronaldo non contest

Players playing in European leagues.
1. Modric - great season with Madrid and Croatia
2. Salah - great season domestically, carried Egypt to a WC
3. Ronaldo - Blergh./

[StannyCFCJET]

Players playing in European leagues.
1. Modric - great season with Madrid and Croatia
2. Salah - great season domestically, carried Egypt to a WC
3. Ronaldo - Blergh./

Yeah buts it's Ronaldo

[plague]

Players playing in European leagues.
1. Modric - great season with Madrid and Croatia
2. Salah - great season domestically, carried Egypt to a WC
3. Ronaldo - Blergh./

has it legit been narrowed down to those 3?
thought this was the perfect opportunity to sit Ronnie for a little minute and put Mbappe in there for a crack.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Modric wins UEFA player of year!

Group A : Atlético, Dortmund, Monaco, Brugge
Group B: Barcelona, Spurs, PSV, Inter
Group C: PSG, Napoli, Liverpool, Red Star Belgrade
Group D: Lokomotiv Moscow, Porto, Schalke, Galatassaray
Group E: Bayern, Benfica, Ajax, AEK Athens
Group F: Man City, Shaktar Donetsk, Lyon, Hoffenheim
Group G: Real Madrid, Roma, CSKA Moscow, Viktoria Plzen
Group H: Juventus, Man United, Valencia, Young Boys

B and C look like tough groups.
Other than that, top 2 should manage...A and F are pretty open though.

[Frodo]

Modric wins UEFA player of year!

Group A : Atlético, Dortmund, Monaco, Brugge
Group B: Barcelona, Spurs, PSV, Inter
Group C: PSG, Napoli, Liverpool, Red Star Belgrade
Group D: Lokomotiv Moscow, Porto, Schalke, Galatassaray
Group E: Bayern, Benfica, Ajax, AEK Athens
Group F: Man City, Shaktar Donetsk, Lyon, Hoffenheim
Group G: Real Madrid, Roma, CSKA Moscow, Viktoria Plzen
Group H: Juventus, Man United, Valencia, Young Boys

B and C look like tough groups.
Other than that, top 2 should manage...A and F are pretty open though.

Group C is the only group of death from what I can see. (Inter aren't very good still) Hopefully Tuchel has his system in place before they come up against Liverpool and Napoli cause both those teams can attack.
Group D will be fun to watch, none of those teams would be automatic qualifiers in any other group so they've all got a great chance to go through.

At least City have to travel to Ukraine at some point.


Now that the plastic cup is announced we wait for the true Cup tournament to be announced. More teams, More travel, more goals, it's just more betterer! EUROPA LEAGUE BABY! See you there Stanny and anyone silly enough to admit they follow Celtic.

[StannyCFCJET]

Group C is the only group of death from what I can see. (Inter aren't very good still) Hopefully Tuchel has his system in place before they come up against Liverpool and Napoli cause both those teams can attack.
Group D will be fun to watch, none of those teams would be automatic qualifiers in any other group so they've all got a great chance to go through.

At least City have to travel to Ukraine at some point.


Now that the plastic cup is announced we wait for the true Cup tournament to be announced. More teams, More travel, more goals, it's just more betterer! EUROPA LEAGUE BABY! See you there Stanny and anyone silly enough to admit they follow Celtic.

Wouldn't say no to winning it again.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Should be able to win it easily.
Or at least get to semis.

[Jeterpool]

Group A looks interesting to me, but I agree on paper Group C looks the most difficult.

[plague]

Arsenal still gonna somehow get knocked out in the quarters.

[StannyCFCJET]

Arsenal still gonna somehow get knocked out in the quarters.

Is Monaco in the Europa league?

[Premy]

Is Monaco in the Europa league?

Scroll up

[StannyCFCJET]

Chelsea draw Liverpool in the league cup. Of course we do #rigged

[Premy]

Chelsea draw Liverpool in the league cup. Of course we do #rigged

In the middle of a difficult run for Liverpool.

Tottenham
PSG
Southampton
Chelsea
Chelsea
Napoli
Man City

All within 3 weeks

[StannyCFCJET]

In the middle of a difficult run for Liverpool.

Tottenham
PSG
Southampton
Chelsea
Chelsea
Napoli
Man City

All within 3 weeks

Welcome to being back with the big boys.

[Bremsstrahlung]

In the middle of a difficult run for Liverpool.

Tottenham
PSG
Southampton
Chelsea
Chelsea
Napoli
Man City

All within 3 weeks

Spurs, PSG, Napoli and Man City to get our first team. Each of these have some world class players.
The rest can have our second team.

[StannyCFCJET]

Spurs, PSG, Napoli and Man City to get our first team. Each of these have some world class players.
The rest can have our second team.

Ill accept the dig and the easy 6 points

[MFKS]

Welcome to being back with the big boys.

You say that like you are referring to Chelsea being part of the big boys

BTW Who did they draw in the UCL??

Cant seem to find them in the list

[StannyCFCJET]

You say that like you are referring to Chelsea being part of the big boys

BTW Who did they draw in the UCL??

Cant seem to find them in the list

Weve won 2 prems in the past 4 seasons. If thats not big boys then ive been watching the wrong football

[pv4]

Modric wins UEFA player of year!

Easy

1. Modric
2. Iniesta
3. Mooy
4. Ronaldo
5. Messi

[Bremsstrahlung]

Ill accept the dig and the easy 6 points

Only 3 points... unless you’re counting Cup games as points.

[StannyCFCJET]

Only 3 points... unless you’re counting Cup games as points.

Yeah I was whoops. And liverpool need to focus on the league

[plague]

Easy

1. Modric
2. Iniesta
3. Mooy
4. Ronaldo
5. Messi

Shit list.
No Arzani.
Do you even football bro?

[MFKS]

So these FIFA football awards have shortlisylted 3 players for the title

CR7
Modric
Salah

Now lets not get side tracked on why Hazard isnt there

But can someone explain how Messi didnt make this list and Salah did??

Messi had a much better season last year than Salah did

[Bremsstrahlung]

So these FIFA football awards have shortlisylted 3 players for the title

CR7
Modric
Salah

Now lets not get side tracked on why Hazard isnt there

But can someone explain how Messi didnt make this list and Salah did??

Messi had a much better season last year than Salah did

What’s your argument for Messi?

[Frodo]

What’s your argument for Messi?

More goals scored.
More trophies won.

[MFKS]

What’s your argument for Messi?

Messi team dominated the La Liga and won by a country mile based on his brilliance

So much so his club performed better than Real by a long way so if you are having CR7 and Modric there you have to realise that their LaLiga form was complete and utter crap compared to Messi that why they were never in the title hunt and had to stasck their eggs in the UCL basket

Carried a honking disfunctional Argy side to the WC on his own back

More Goals
More MOMs
More ****ING ASSISTS
More Trophies


What did Salah do??

**** all

Less goals
Less Assists
Less MoMs
No trophies

[Premy]

CR7 Juventus to Inter in 2020

[De-Champ]

CR7 Juventus to Inter in 2020

Inter Miami that is

[Premy]

Inter Miami that is

:thumbsup:

[plague]

By the way did anyone notice Spain bottoming out/rebuiding and then getting back to almost peak form in the space of about 3 minutes?

Luis Enrique has taken them back to what works, hes pissed off the Costa/Morata shitshow* and gone back to picking his best David Villa impersonator.
With Isco and Ascensio (and Saul) looking like the engine of the team they were truly frightening against Croatia.

Still paying $7 for 2022 world cup, its prob as good as you'll get even this far out if the coach stays and players stay fit.












*just shows the gap in knowledge/talent in football. England are basing their whole structure around the lumbering oaf that is Harry Kane and Spain have done the exact opposite. Wonder which country will get it right??????????

[StannyCFCJET]

Is Zaha playing 2nite or still injured?

[StannyCFCJET]

Always good to see spurs lose and Hazard best player in the prem easy

[Frodo]

Always good to see spurs lose and Hazard best player in the prem easy

Definitely found his level today. 1 great goal, 1 deflection and 1 penalty.... Against a team are very much favourite to go straight back down to the championship.

Love you Stanny.

Also, that only his 2nd ever Chelsea hat trick?? That's not great for the greatest player in EPL history?

[Frodo]

For comparison.... Theo Walcott has 3!

[Bremsstrahlung]

Agüero has 8...

I mean, don’t get me wrong, he had a great game. But let’s not get too carried away yeh? Maybe give it until he performs against top clubs when we are in the bulk of the season.

[StannyCFCJET]

Agüero has 8...

I mean, don’t get me wrong, he had a great game. But let’s not get too carried away yeh? Maybe give it until he performs against top clubs when we are in the bulk of the season.

He has a fantastic record against the top 6 already just needed to find the week to week consistency. Here is his stats of the past ten games Eden Hazard: Last 10 competitive apps

Vs Panama ��️
Vs Tunisia ⚽️⚽️⭐️
Vs Japan ��️⭐️
Vs Brazil ❌
Vs France ❌⭐️
Vs England ⚽️⭐️
Vs Huddersfield ��️
Vs Arsenal ��️
Vs Newcastle ⚽️⭐️
Vs Bournemouth ⚽️⭐️

and here is Eden Hazard vs Top 6 Premier League teams since joining Chelsea:

Manchester United:
⚽️ 5 Goals
5 Assists

Tottenham:
⚽️ 5 Goals
3 Assists

Arsenal:
⚽️ 5 Goals
3 Assists
Manchester City:
⚽️ 4 Goals
5 Assists

Liverpool:
⚽️ 4 Goals
2 Assists

[Frodo]

He has a fantastic record against the top 6 already just needed to find the week to week consistency. Here is his stats of the past ten games Eden Hazard: Last 10 competitive apps

Vs Panama ��️
Vs Tunisia ⚽️⚽️⭐️
Vs Japan ��️⭐️
Vs Brazil ❌
Vs France ❌⭐️
Vs England ⚽️⭐️
Vs Huddersfield ��️
Vs Arsenal ��️
Vs Newcastle ⚽️⭐️
Vs Bournemouth ⚽️⭐️

and here is Eden Hazard vs Top 6 Premier League teams since joining Chelsea:

Manchester United:
⚽️ 5 Goals
5 Assists

Tottenham:
⚽️ 5 Goals
3 Assists

Arsenal:
⚽️ 5 Goals
3 Assists
Manchester City:
⚽️ 4 Goals
5 Assists

Liverpool:
⚽️ 4 Goals
2 Assists

But less Hat tricks than Theo Walcott and the same number of Premier league goals as Gabby Agbonlahor?

[StannyCFCJET]

But less Hat tricks than Theo Walcott and the same number of Premier league goals as Gabby Agbonlahor?

and what did their goals lead to? Nothing

[plague]

For comparison.... Theo Walcott has 3!

Hazard has more than Messi and Arzani combined.


Case closed.

[Frodo]

Hazard has more than Messi and Arzani combined.


Case closed.

My bad.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

My bad.

Know your place, young Frodo.

P.S if you weren't aware, it's 7th.

[plague]

Know your place, young Frodo.

P.S if you weren't aware, it's 7th.

but a chance to clinch 6th spot going into the last round.

[StannyCFCJET]

What a joke the Pukas Award is

[plague]

What a joke the Pukas Award is

these things usually dont bother me, but I was more than happy for Ronaldos bicycle kick to win, but that Salah goal?

that was kind of a...............typical goal you see at the high level.


was it a fan vote or something?

[Jeterpool]

these things usually dont bother me, but I was more than happy for Ronaldos bicycle kick to win, but that Salah goal?

that was kind of a...............typical goal you see at the high level.


was it a fan vote or something?

Yeah it was fan voting.

Definitely not the best from the selection - I'd argue it was probably the weakest of the selections.

[StannyCFCJET]

All those Egyptians

[Bon]

Yeah it was fan voting.

Definitely not the best from the selection - I'd argue it was probably the weakest of the selections.

Yeah I agree..
Almost as bad as people voting for a turkey instead of a rooster... :rof: :thumbsup:

See Milner poking fun at him for it.. Congratulating him on his seventh best goal that he scored getting the best of the year.. haha

[Jeterpool]

Almost as bad as people voting for a turkey instead of a rooster... :rof: :thumbsup:


Don't you even start....:rof::bs:

[Jetmaster]

If the players swapped situations, would Riley have won scoring Salah's goal....no.

Now had Ronaldo scored that goal.....

[plague]

Team of the year was interesting.

It's almost like people think hes...........good?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Fan awards are always gonna be a bit crap right?

Get a panel of “experts” and make them vote.

[MFKS]

Fan awards are always gonna be a bit crap right?

Get a panel of “experts” and make them vote.

Just as bad an idea really

There are people out there who honestly think Hazard is in the top 5 players in in the world

Then there are the people who are right and think he isnt even in the top 10

[plague]

Just as bad an idea really

There are people out there who honestly think Hazard is in the top 5 players in in the world

Then there are the people who are right and think he isnt even in the top 10

again, i find it hard to argue with any of the players in the team except for maybe De Gea.
if that was fan-inspired then they did a good job.

but yeah, any egyptian or reds fan voting for that goal are a disc-race.

[MFKS]

again, i find it hard to argue with any of the players in the team except for maybe De Gea.
if that was fan-inspired then they did a good job.

but yeah, any egyptian or reds fan voting for that goal are a disc-race.

Dani Alves played 15 games FFS

No doubt he is no mug footballer

But the bloke played as much football as Aussie kids play in a season and done **** all to.warrant selection this year

[StannyCFCJET]

Dani Alves played 15 games FFS

No doubt he is no mug footballer

But the bloke played as much football as Aussie kids play in a season and done **** all to.warrant selection this year

Dani Alves made it over the Real Madrid RB? Wow

Also Courtios gets best keeper but Dea Gea makes the team, ummm ok

[plague]

Dani Alves played 15 games FFS

No doubt he is no mug footballer

But the bloke played as much football as Aussie kids play in a season and done **** all to.warrant selection this year


Dani Alves only needs to play one game to qualify as the best in his position every year.


thought you of all people would put know to put a bit more respect on his name.

[Frodo]

Marta winning female player of the year is a worse tragedy than Dani Alves making a fan picked team of the year.

[plague]

Marta winning female player of the year is a worse tragedy than Dani Alves making a fan picked team of the year.

well yeah theres all that too but man oh man i just recovered from thinking Serena was in the wrong i aint wading in those waters again for a minute thanks.

[plague]

if any of you use the twitterbook, head over to @SwissRamble for a pretty interesting thread about Man Uniteds books for the past decade. If youre a bit of a nerd for the 'how' football clubs work its a great read.

Some interesting numbers though, they more than doubled revenue (278m to 590m) from '09-'18 which considering it was probably at the end of their 'Fergie peak' is amazing.
They also used to be locked in at around 42% of their revenue went towards financing costs. Now thats a very very scary number and something that can sink you so very quickly. Its now down to about 3%.
Would be very interesting to see how Arsenal (a club thats been 'thought of' as existing to balance the books rather than win titles), and Man Citeh, who are accused of being reckless spenders killing the notion of a level playing field stack up compared to United. Hope this dude gets their hands on them.

[Jetmaster]

Fan awards are always gonna be a bit crap right?

Get a panel of “experts” and make them vote.

Should just get Pammy the Office Lady to conduct the selections.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jose's stance on Pogba is spot on. Bout time a player was put in his place

[Premy]

Jose's stance on Pogba is spot on. Bout time a player was put in his place

What are you're thoughts on Jose's stance on Jones and Bailly?

[StannyCFCJET]

What are you're thoughts on Jose's stance on Jones and Bailly?

The comments about the pens? Dumb bout its typical Jose

[Premy]

The comments about the pens? Dumb bout its typical Jose

He is going to lose the dressing sheds soon if he keeps throwing blokes under the bus. He might have United's fans believe in him but it is becoming quite evident that the United players don't.

[StannyCFCJET]

He is going to lose the dressing sheds soon if he keeps throwing blokes under the bus. He might have United's fans believe in him but it is becoming quite evident that the United players don't.

Welcome to Jose post Inter season 3

[plague]

Hazard went ok this morning.

[MFKS]

Hazard went ok this morning.

It was only Liverpool


Enough said

[Bremsstrahlung]

Was always gonna be 2nd team vs second team.

[StannyCFCJET]

Was always gonna be 2nd team vs second team.

Both second teams still had heaps of A team quality.

[StannyCFCJET]

Seriously though **** the who's better rubbish. Salah KDB Augero Kane Hazard are all incredible to watch and let's just enjoy then while their in the prem

[Premy]

Seriously though **** the who's better rubbish. Salah KDB Augero Kane Hazard are all incredible to watch and let's just enjoy then while their in the prem

And James Milner

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Jose's stance on Pogba is spot on. Bout time a player was put in his place

Serious question.....
I may be missing something, but what has Pogba actually done to need to be put in his place?
I get that he is a flash git, but were people expecting a bunch of goals or something from him because of the price tag? He has never scored a whole bunch and has been a cog in a wheel (and excellent cog, but not a standout Ronaldo/Messi type) so I'm a bit confused.
is is just that he hasn't dominated as expected for the price tag or is there more to this situation that I don't see?

[StannyCFCJET]

Serious question.....
I may be missing something, but what has Pogba actually done to need to be put in his place?
I get that he is a flash git, but were people expecting a bunch of goals or something from him because of the price tag? He has never scored a whole bunch and has been a cog in a wheel (and excellent cog, but not a standout Ronaldo/Messi type) so I'm a bit confused.
is is just that he hasn't dominated as expected for the price tag or is there more to this situation that I don't see?

Publicly speaking out against the managers tactics

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Publicly speaking out against the managers tactics

Is that the crux of it?
I read the quote as 'We are Man Utd, we want to be dominant at home and we didn't play fluently in attack'.
But when you have a defensive manager that dislikes you, its probably easier to be boring yourself and say nothing. Unless of course he wants out. Which he does, and anyone would in his position.

[StannyCFCJET]

Is that the crux of it?
I read the quote as 'We are Man Utd, we want to be dominant at home and we didn't play fluently in attack'.
But when you have a defensive manager that dislikes you, its probably easier to be boring yourself and say nothing. Unless of course he wants out. Which he does, and anyone would in his position.

You cant speak out against a Manager. Always a no no

[MFKS]

Serious question.....
I may be missing something, but what has Pogba actually done to need to be put in his place?
I get that he is a flash git, but were people expecting a bunch of goals or something from him because of the price tag? He has never scored a whole bunch and has been a cog in a wheel (and excellent cog, but not a standout Ronaldo/Messi type) so I'm a bit confused.
is is just that he hasn't dominated as expected for the price tag or is there more to this situation that I don't see?

The thing with Man U that defies belief with Mourinhio is that he has now had 5 transfer windows there so if his players are not up to scratch why has he not replaced them??

Shaw Smalling Jones Fellaini etc if they aint good enough why does he persist in playing them and why hasnt he shipped them out of the club if he deems them notgood enough ??

Plenty of money there in potential incoming transfer fees to bring in new players


Then you throw in the likes of Pogba Bailly Lindelof etc whom he has signed and doesnt seem to be getting the best out of



Mo though isnt an idiot and his public comments aint some clueless clown mouthing off but calculated psychology

Exactly though what the **** is going on is hard to tell

Whatever is going on players aint reaching potential / consistency and both players and manager are responsible

[StannyCFCJET]

The thing with Man U that defies belief with Mourinhio is that he has noe had 5 transfer windows there so if his players are not up to scratch why has he not replaced them??

Shaw Smalling Jones Fellaini etc if they aint good enough why does he persist in playing them and why hasnt he shipped them out of the club if he deems them notgood enough ??


Then you throw in the likes of Pogba Bailly Lindelof etc whom he has signed and doesnt seem to be getting the best out of


Mo though isnt an idiot and his public comments aint some clueless cloiwn mouthing off but calculated physcology

Exactly though what the **** is going on is hard to tell

Whatever is going on players aint reaching potential / consistency and both players and manager are responsible

Cant do much if the players dont want to leave or clubs dont want them

[De-Champ]

The thing with Man U that defies belief with Mourinhio is that he has now had 5 transfer windows there so if his players are not up to scratch why has he not replaced them??

Shaw Smalling Jones Fellaini etc if they aint good enough why does he persist in playing them and why hasnt he shipped them out of the club if he deems them notgood enough ??

Plenty of money there in potential incoming transfer fees to bring in new players


Then you throw in the likes of Pogba Bailly Lindelof etc whom he has signed and doesnt seem to be getting the best out of



Mo though isnt an idiot and his public comments aint some clueless clown mouthing off but calculated psychology

Exactly though what the **** is going on is hard to tell

Whatever is going on players aint reaching potential / consistency and both players and manager are responsible

A very simplistic view. Depending on what websites you read, Mourhino was not allowed to buy the players he wanted, there is some friction between him and some board members. As I say it depends on what you read.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

A very simplistic view. Depending on what websites you read, Mourhino was not allowed to buy the players he wanted, there is some friction between him and some board members. As I say it depends on what you read.

Easy solution.
Be like Spurs and don't buy anyone....
Saves all the hassle.

[Frodo]

The thing with Man U that defies belief with Mourinhio is that he has now had 5 transfer windows there so if his players are not up to scratch why has he not replaced them??

Shaw Smalling Jones Fellaini etc if they aint good enough why does he persist in playing them and why hasnt he shipped them out of the club if he deems them notgood enough ??

Plenty of money there in potential incoming transfer fees to bring in new players


Then you throw in the likes of Pogba Bailly Lindelof etc whom he has signed and doesnt seem to be getting the best out of



Mo though isnt an idiot and his public comments aint some clueless clown mouthing off but calculated psychology

Exactly though what the **** is going on is hard to tell

Whatever is going on players aint reaching potential / consistency and both players and manager are responsible



2 reasons why this is all happening.

1. United don't need to win trophies anymore. All they need to do to make money is to sign big name players. Sanchez transfer from Arsenal was tweeted about more than the Neymar to PSG transfer. They have sold enough sanchez shirts to cover his stupid wages. United are a business, just like people say Arsenal is a business rather than a club who competes for trophies, they just do it better than us.

Pogba doesn't have to perform, he just needs to make them money. If everyone keeps talking about him leaving then Man United are getting free promotion. If Barca do actually want him, it will be such common knowledge that United can earn a decent fee for him and just have to replace him with someone else. Sell Pogba for 100 mil, buy Alli for 120 mil, United win. They would sell 20 million in shirts on the 1st day. The circus will continue and it won't matter if they win the title as long as they keep buying their own galacticos. (which in the EPL is a young player with potential to succeed mixed with a huge transfer fee to weigh them down. -Shaw, Zaha, Martial, De Bruyne @ chelsea, Lukaku both times, etc)


2. Mourinho wants his payout at some point this year. He had already won the EPL with Chelsea so all he had to do was keep them in the hunt and talked about as the biggest club in England. He tows that line very well, but now he wants his pay out so he can go to France or Italy and have a crack at winning the title there to add to his CV. If he wants to force his way out, pick a fight with the most popular player at the club (in the media's view) and watch the shitshow unravel.

[De-Champ]

2 reasons why this is all happening.

1. United don't need to win trophies anymore. All they need to do to make money is to sign big name players. Sanchez transfer from Arsenal was tweeted about more than the Neymar to PSG transfer. They have sold enough sanchez shirts to cover his stupid wages. United are a business, just like people say Arsenal is a business rather than a club who competes for trophies, they just do it better than us.

Pogba doesn't have to perform, he just needs to make them money. If everyone keeps talking about him leaving then Man United are getting free promotion. If Barca do actually want him, it will be such common knowledge that United can earn a decent fee for him and just have to replace him with someone else. Sell Pogba for 100 mil, buy Alli for 120 mil, United win. They would sell 20 million in shirts on the 1st day. The circus will continue and it won't matter if they win the title as long as they keep buying their own galacticos. (which in the EPL is a young player with potential to succeed mixed with a huge transfer fee to weigh them down. -Shaw, Zaha, Martial, De Bruyne @ chelsea, Lukaku both times, etc)


2. Mourinho wants his payout at some point this year. He had already won the EPL with Chelsea so all he had to do was keep them in the hunt and talked about as the biggest club in England. He tows that line very well, but now he wants his pay out so he can go to France or Italy and have a crack at winning the title there to add to his CV. If he wants to force his way out, pick a fight with the most popular player at the club (in the media's view) and watch the shitshow unravel.

He has already won the title in Italy.
I think he would go to a national team as coach as he has stated often enough.

[Frodo]

He has already won the title in Italy.
I think he would go to a national team as coach as he has stated often enough.

I meant to say Germany. I knew he won it with Inter, i got confused when i started thinking about France. But he wouldn't settle well at Monaco and PSG don't need him.

[StannyCFCJET]

I meant to say Germany. I knew he won it with Inter, i got confused when i started thinking about France. But he wouldn't settle well at Monaco and PSG don't need him.

Only place left for Jose is the Portugal national team

[MFKS]

Only place left for Jose is the Portugal national team

I actually think he is 100% spot on with the way he is to Pogba

The bloke is a ****ing enigma and doesnt deliver performances with the regularity he should

For all the money that Man U have paid him the bloke is letting his club down the most with his efforts


Looking more like a case of Mo or Pogba and Man U isnt big enough for both

I would suggest Pogba is the one who has to go if anything

[Frodo]

I actually think he is 100% spot on with the way he is to Pogba

The bloke is a ****ing enigma and doesnt deliver performances with the regularity he should

For all the money that Man U have paid him the bloke is letting his club down the most with his efforts


Looking more like a case of Mo or Pogba and Man U isnt big enough for both

I would suggest Pogba is the one who has to go if anything

Pogba has been told he's the best midfielder in the world. He believed it and wants to go to Barca and thinks he will be able to walk around and win the league every year. He will be a cancer in the team until he either learns or goes.

Funnily enough, because they already lost him once they can't just sell him at the 1st sign of problems without looking even more stupid than the 1st time. So he holds all the aces with this one. He can do whatever he wants and the club will struggle to come out looking good no matter what.

If it was my team I would drop him to the bench everytime he argues and then make Pogba stir the pot in frustration until the fans want him sold.


It will be great seeing them finish 9th this year if this morning is anything to go off.

[De-Champ]

I actually think he is 100% spot on with the way he is to Pogba

The bloke is a ****ing enigma and doesnt deliver performances with the regularity he should

For all the money that Man U have paid him the bloke is letting his club down the most with his efforts


Looking more like a case of Mo or Pogba and Man U isnt big enough for both

I would suggest Pogba is the one who has to go if anything

It is not just him, Mourinho has an issue with. It is half of the squad. This is a repeat of his last term in Chelsea, when he lost the dressing shed.

[MFKS]

How good is the promotion for the Copa Libertadores Final??

Better than anything Vince McMahon could ever come up with

Argies are ****ing no 1 when it comes to football support

[Bon]

How good is the promotion for the Copa Libertadores Final??

Bloody great game to watch so far..

[Jeterpool]

VAR strikes in Juve v Roma.

[Frodo]

VAR strikes in Juve v Roma.

What happened?? All I read was that Costa had a goal disallowed for a foul.

[plague]

That Rangers Celtic match was brilliant.
Crowd was one of the most intense id ever watched on the telly.

Gerrard already a better manager than he was a player.

[Frodo]

Can someone, I'm looking at you Premy, please confirm what the high court ruling regarding Blackpool FC means for fans/the Oystens?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47229992

Does this mean that they are gone completely, without payment/sale of the club?

[The Dunster]

I can' imagine a League 1 club having a spare 25 million lying around.

[De-Champ]

I can' imagine a League 1 club having a spare 25 million lying around.

The article said that Blackpool owned the ground and the hotel. They could sell assets to raise funds.

[Premy]

Can someone, I'm looking at you Premy, please confirm what the high court ruling regarding Blackpool FC means for fans/the Oystens?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47229992

Does this mean that they are gone completely, without payment/sale of the club?

In the most simplistic laymens terms.

Belokon already owns 20% and wants Oyston shares to make himself the majority owner, this is just a power struggle at board level that has gone on for over 5 years now.

Belokon has agreed to waive the debt in turn for Oystons shares but the 2 parties are not in agreement of what Oystons shares are worth. Oyston values his shares at the price of the debt owed +£15m however Belokon values Oystons shares at the value of the debt.

Basically this now just clears the way for the receiver to sell Oystons shares in the Club to Belokon.

[Frodo]

In the most simplistic laymens terms.

Belokon already owns 20% and wants Oyston shares to make himself the majority owner, this is just a power struggle at board level that has gone on for over 5 years now.

Belokon has agreed to waive the debt in turn for Oystons shares but the 2 parties are not in agreement of what Oystons shares are worth. Oyston values his shares at the price of the debt owed +£15m however Belokon values Oystons shares at the value of the debt.

Basically this now just clears the way for the receiver to sell Oystons shares in the Club to Belokon.

Cheers mate.

[plague]

This Brendan Rodgers thing seems weird.

Why ditch Celtic now, still competing for several trophies, to see out a season at Lester where they will prob finish right where they were gonna finish anyway?

He was doing an ok at Celtic yeah, and it seemed the fans liked him.

the benefits he'll get out of being back in the Prem surely are offset by the damage done to his reputation in the long term.
and its not as if the job wouldnt have still been there at seasons end if Lester really wanted him.

people are weird man.

[Frodo]

This Brendan Rodgers thing seems weird.

Why ditch Celtic now, still competing for several trophies, to see out a season at Lester where they will prob finish right where they were gonna finish anyway?

He was doing an ok at Celtic yeah, and it seemed the fans liked him.

the benefits he'll get out of being back in the Prem surely are offset by the damage done to his reputation in the long term.
and its not as if the job wouldnt have still been there at seasons end if Lester really wanted him.

people are weird man.

Celtic pretty much can't lose the SPL and can't do anything in Europe. Winning trophies in Scotland with Celtic doesn't add anything to your CV as a coach. He hasn't gained any respect since he's been there, hence the drop to a very good mid table side.

As soon as they got knocked out of Europe he was on the phone looking to leave.

[MFKS]

This Brendan Rodgers thing seems weird.

Why ditch Celtic now, still competing for several trophies, to see out a season at Lester where they will prob finish right where they were gonna finish anyway?

He was doing an ok at Celtic yeah, and it seemed the fans liked him.

the benefits he'll get out of being back in the Prem surely are offset by the damage done to his reputation in the long term.
and its not as if the job wouldnt have still been there at seasons end if Lester really wanted him.

people are weird man.

What man??

Lester are just underperforming

They won the EPL like less than 3 years ago and were in the Quarters of the UCL 2 years ago

Bloke is stepping up in the world going there

Finally at a big club now

[The Dunster]

It's a massive step up for a manager to go from Celtic to Leicester City

Lester mkt value is 335m
Celtic mkt Value is 91m

[MFKS]

It's a massive step up for a manager to go from Celtic to Leicester City

Lester mkt value is 335m
Celtic mkt Value is 91m
Liverpool 》Celtic 》Lester

Career progression I would call it

[MFKS]

Zidane has come back to take over at Real Madrid

Didnt see that coming

[plague]

Zidane has come back to take over at Real Madrid

Didnt see that coming

yeah you'd expect he'd get the rest of the season hassle free with the old 'not my squad' excuse.
didnt read too much about it but is this a part time thing or is he expected to get the gig next year too?

[Jeterpool]

yeah you'd expect he'd get the rest of the season hassle free with the old 'not my squad' excuse.
didnt read too much about it but is this a part time thing or is he expected to get the gig next year too?

til 2022

[StannyCFCJET]

Makes you wonder why he ****ing left then

[MFKS]

Makes you wonder why he ****ing left then

Now he can cone in and use the need time to rebuild the club line

The fall of Real Madrids dominant team wasnt on his watch etc

To be fair he basically bailed on them at the perfect time for his reputation

4 UCL in 5 year and 3 on the trot meant he coukd see the reality and I backing he knew CR7 was off as well meant he wasnt sticking around to rebuild

[StannyCFCJET]

Now he can cone in and use the need time to rebuild the club line

The fall of Real Madrids dominant team wasnt on his watch etc

To be fair he basically bailed on them at the perfect time for his reputation

4 UCL in 5 year and 3 on the trot meant he coukd see the reality and I backing he knew CR7 was off as well meant he wasnt sticking around to rebuild

The media wont question a legend of the game and someone who won 3 UCLs in a row but

[Frodo]

He knew the club had reached a point where it needed a rebuild. But you can't exactly ask for £200 million to rebuild a squad that just won 3 UCL titles. He leaves, new manager struggles, he is given free reign to rebuild.


Kante is supposedly his No1 transfer target. I'm guessing that means one of Modric or Kroos are available.

Good news for us (Arsenal) is that they want Wingers. Which means some decent wingers will have agents trying to put them in the window.

[StannyCFCJET]

Hazard will join if Zindane so much as whispers his name

[Jeterpool]

He knew the club had reached a point where it needed a rebuild. But you can't exactly ask for £200 million to rebuild a squad that just won 3 UCL titles. He leaves, new manager struggles, he is given free reign to rebuild.


Kante is supposedly his No1 transfer target. I'm guessing that means one of Modric or Kroos are available.

Good news for us (Arsenal) is that they want Wingers. Which means some decent wingers will have agents trying to put them in the window.


Why is it good new for Arsenal?

[Jeterpool]

Now he can cone in and use the need time to rebuild the club line

The fall of Real Madrids dominant team wasnt on his watch etc

To be fair he basically bailed on them at the perfect time for his reputation

4 UCL in 5 year and 3 on the trot meant he coukd see the reality and I backing he knew CR7 was off as well meant he wasnt sticking around to rebuild

This in a nutshell.

He could come in and take a dump right in the middle of the Bernabeu and they'll still love him more than those who have been there in between him. Zizu has played this perfectly.

[StannyCFCJET]

Why is it good new for Arsenal?

Arsenal must want wingers but why when you have the goat welbeck

[MFKS]

This in a nutshell.

He could come in and take a dump right in the middle of the Bernabeu and they'll still love him more than those who have been there in between him. Zizu has played this perfectly.

Think he was planning the French NT gig as it would have been a great time to take on the role with the players at their disposal and no trophies to show for it

Problem was they won the WC and Deschamps stuck around so he left high and dry

[Jetmaster]

Just reading about the new World Club Cup. Noted that each club would receive 50 million pounds for playing in it.

Also noted one of those clubs will be the Oceania Champions.....happy days for Auckland.

[plague]

Zidane, a genius, for picking one of the best midfielders in Europe and the architect of his teams magical run from a few years back.

Zidane.............prob not a genius, just not an idiot.

[plague]

By the way, that Messi performance on the weekend.

Good Lord.

[StannyCFCJET]

Juve vs Cagliari Juve young gun scores celebrates in from of away fans who have been racially abusing him all game and his captain Bonucci (You absolute ****ing wankstain) says its half his fault for the racial abuse for celebrating infront of them. **** off Bonucci you wank stain

[Bon]

Juve vs Cagliari Juve young gun scores celebrates in from of away fans who have been racially abusing him all game and his captain Bonucci (You absolute ****ing wankstain) says its half his fault for the racial abuse for celebrating infront of them. **** off Bonucci you wank stain

Yeah I was reading that yesterday too..
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/bonucci-says-racially-abused-kean-should-take-50-per-cent-of-the-blame

[MFKS]

Juve vs Cagliari Juve young gun scores celebrates in from of away fans who have been racially abusing him all game and his captain Bonucci (You absolute ****ing wankstain) says its half his fault for the racial abuse for celebrating infront of them. **** off Bonucci you wank stain

Old mate Kean will never be exposed to it at Chelsea

For a start Juventus would have to qualify for the Europa League for him to get the Sterling treatment

[StannyCFCJET]

Old mate Kean will never be exposed to it at Chelsea

For a start Juventus would have to qualify for the Europa League for him to get the Sterling treatment

What does that have to do with anything? Racism is ****ed no matter who does it

[MFKS]

What does that have to do with anything? Racism is ****ed no matter who does it

Being that your club have a long and stellar history of it I am surprised you are commenting on the subject of fans abusing players

[Jeterpool]

Being that your club have a long and stellar history of it I am surprised you are commenting on the subject of fans abusing players

He's commenting on it as a human, more so than a fan of a particular club. Far out.

[StannyCFCJET]

He's commenting on it as a human, more so than a fan of a particular club. Far out.

Thanks Jeterpool

[MFKS]

How good is Neymar??

Takes down the Me Too movement with What's App screenshots

[Jetmaster]

Barcelona have released a "tablecloth" kit. Really over manufacturers going on about how "this represents that".
Crap....they've run out of ideas changing three strips a season

[Grimario]

Platini has been taken into custody. Something about the Qatar bid... Who'd have thunk it?

[Frodo]

Platini has been taken into custody. Something about the Qatar bid... Who'd have thunk it?

Implicated beside Sarkozy (former President) and his team. So that's even more people looking to protect him.

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/06/27/ffa-reportedly-launching-joint-2034-world-cup-bid-with-indonesia/

ahahahahahahahaha

[Bon]

No idea where to put this..
BUT..
The International Champions Cup game between Fiorentina and Guadalajara is live streaming on SBS right now..

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/match/3003241/fiorentina-vs-guadalajara

[Bon]

Another one of these ICC games is on SBS streaming now.. Real vs Arsenal..
Already had a send off and two goals, and its only the 26th min..

[StannyCFCJET]

Fifa being more corrupt how surprising

[StannyCFCJET]

3rd and 4th place gonna be a slow fight with many struggles.

[plague]

Wait, Van Dijk didn't win?

Ok then.

[plague]

Oh, I just saw the 'team' if the year.
These things don't outrage me like some but geez, they are gonna come out of the woodwork on this one huh?

[Jeterpool]

Oh, I just saw the 'team' if the year.
These things don't outrage me like some but geez, they are gonna come out of the woodwork on this one huh?

Bit of reputation over delivery in that 12 months, you think?

[plague]

Bit of reputation over delivery in that 12 months, you think?

Whoo boy, some of those Madrid players must have names that are real easy to spell that's the only reason I can think they got on there.

Also, Messi voted Mane 1st so that's prob all anyone needs to know about that whole process.

[plague]

Barca thumped Sevilla 4-0.
Expected goals stat Barca 2.8, Sevilla 3.1

Stat nerdz......ASSEMBLE!!!!!!!!!

[Jeterpool]

Barca thumped Sevilla 4-0.
Expected goals stat Barca 2.8, Sevilla 3.1

Stat nerdz......ASSEMBLE!!!!!!!!!

Ahhhhh, it's just me here. That's it.

So....ummm...Hi!

[plague]

Ahhhhh, it's just me here. That's it.

So....ummm...Hi!

We've really got to get you over to the horse racing thread.

[plague]

praise be to our Lord and Saviour Griff that He invented social media just so Colleen Rooney could step up and win all of it.

[pv4]

praise be to our Lord and Saviour Griff that He invented social media just so Colleen Rooney could step up and win all of it.

It's............... a thing of beauty

[Frodo]

praise be to our Lord and Saviour Griff that He invented social media just so Colleen Rooney could step up and win all of it.

I dunno, I reckon Petr Cech signing up as an Ice Hockey Goal keeper was the biggest news of the day.

[plague]

i dunno, i reckon petr cech signing up as an ice hockey goal keeper was the biggest news of the day.

you shut the hell up and let queen colleen have her time shes solving mysteries!!!!!!

[Frodo]

Is anyone else a bit sick of seeing England act like the bastions of world peace and denouncing anyone they play against as racist Neanderthals that don't deserve to even have a national side... Even though England still has a huge and deep rooted problem with racism themselves???

I get why Bulgaria should be in trouble, racism is ridiculously shit, but the UK media and the team spent weeks stirring the pot and incite the ultras to do it. And then cried like little school girls once it happened. Then had to gall to sing songs about how racist Bulgaria were as if they've never thrown a banana at a player, or made monkey faces at them, or sung anti-Semitic songs during games...

**** any racist football fan or racist person in general, but also **** any British person right now acting like it doesn't happen from them.



Side rant. What happened to all the England players who said they'd walk off as soon as they heard any racist jeers or chants from the crowd? Did they realise it could hurt their qualifying campaign if they walked off and the ref classified it as forfeit? Maybe next time don't act like you're bigger than UEFA if you don't have the backing of your employer (FA) and can't actually go through with it.

[plague]

Is anyone else a bit sick of seeing England act like the bastions of world peace and denouncing anyone they play against as racist Neanderthals that don't deserve to even have a national side... Even though England still has a huge and deep rooted problem with racism themselves???


yeah the English press made a thing out of the national team players being really grown up and sensible about handling racism because they are so used to copping it from home fans that they are now seasoned vets.

it was a real weird flex.

to be fair i found it even weirder that Harry Kane jumped in and claimed that the racism directed at Sterling was actually his and he should be credited with it.

[Frodo]

to be fair i found it even weirder that harry kane jumped in and claimed that the racism directed at sterling was actually his and he should be credited with it.

ROFL.

He will deservedly be beaten with that stick for the rest of his career. What a twat he is.

[plague]

ROFL.

He will deservedly be beaten with that stick for the rest of his career. What a twat he is.

Fish in a barrel my man.
And I'm here with all of the bullets.

[Jetmaster]

Is anyone else a bit sick of seeing England act like the bastions of world peace and denouncing anyone they play against as racist Neanderthals that don't deserve to even have a national side... Even though England still has a huge and deep rooted problem with racism themselves???

I get why Bulgaria should be in trouble, racism is ridiculously shit, but the UK media and the team spent weeks stirring the pot and incite the ultras to do it. And then cried like little school girls once it happened. Then had to gall to sing songs about how racist Bulgaria were as if they've never thrown a banana at a player, or made monkey faces at them, or sung anti-Semitic songs during games...

**** any racist football fan or racist person in general, but also **** any British person right now acting like it doesn't happen from them.



Side rant. What happened to all the England players who said they'd walk off as soon as they heard any racist jeers or chants from the crowd? Did they realise it could hurt their qualifying campaign if they walked off and the ref classified it as forfeit? Maybe next time don't act like you're bigger than UEFA if you don't have the backing of your employer (FA) and can't actually go through with it.

Spot on - dunno what the other outlets are like but the BBC has three "agenda" items it likes to push daily - women's football, racism and Manchester United.

I'm from a "sticks and stones, turn the other cheek" generation. It's wrong but the way the English media handles it inflames the situation.

[MFKS]

That is what happens when your country embraces virtue signalling as currency

These woke EPL stars try to out do one another with it

Just like all the nutters in the NFL and NBA seem to think they have a platform to shove their leftist politics down everyone's throats too


Dont know how these poor ****ers on hundreds of thousands of pounds each week are dealing with racism whilst they eating with gold plated knives and forks

[plague]

Dont know how these poor ****ers on hundreds of thousands of pounds each week are dealing with racism whilst they eating with gold plated knives and forks

i dunno, maybe because racism is ****ed and no one should put up with it?
So exactly where is the income line that racism isnt ok? you've obviously got some sort of award document that tells you where it kicks in right?



you're probably the bloke who thinks when hookers and porn stars get raped its not a big deal "shes out there shagging everyone anyway".

[MFKS]

i dunno, maybe because racism is ****ed and no one should put up with it?
So exactly where is the income line that racism isnt ok? you've obviously got some sort of award document that tells you where it kicks in right?



you're probably the bloke who thinks when hookers and porn stars get raped its not a big deal "shes out there shagging everyone anyway".

The irony is at a football game involving 2 national sides where national pride is being celebrated and displayed
you are honestly surprised that racial superiority doesn't come into the equation

Thought you were much smarter

[Frodo]

That is what happens when your country embraces virtue signalling as currency

These woke EPL stars try to out do one another with it

Just like all the nutters in the NFL and NBA seem to think they have a platform to shove their leftist politics down everyone's throats too


Dont know how these poor ****ers on hundreds of thousands of pounds each week are dealing with racism whilst they eating with gold plated knives and forks

You think Anti racism is just Leftie politics now? Cause that shit is pretty much centrist to everyone else.

[MFKS]

You think Anti racism is just Leftie politics now? Cause that shit is pretty much centrist to everyone else.

Yes it is leftist politics to a tea

Identity politics is one of the lefts favourite tools


Those ****s are paid to play football

Just as Kapernick WAS paid to play NFL


Maybe they should actually stick to that subject and leave the politics alone

[plague]

The irony is at a football game involving 2 national sides where national pride is being celebrated and displayed
you are honestly surprised that racial superiority doesn't come into the equation

Thought you were much smarter

remind me again which countries are cool with racism?
because you're confusing national pride with racism. It is very very easy to have one without the other.
Didnt see them making monkey noises at the white English players.

[Frodo]

Yes it is leftist politics to a tea

Identity politics is one of the lefts favourite tools


Those ****s are paid to play football

Just as Kapernick WAS paid to play NFL


Maybe they should actually stick to that subject and leave the politics alone


Firstly anti racism is for everyone who isn't a racist. It's not a left thing, only an idiot or a bigot would think otherwise. Take your pick.


Secondly, politicians are the people we shouldn't be leaving politics too. They look after the people who keep them in a job, and that isn't the local punter placing their votes every few years.

[plague]

Yes it is leftist politics to a tea

Identity politics is one of the lefts favourite tools


Those ****s are paid to play football

Just as Kapernick WAS paid to play NFL


Maybe they should actually stick to that subject and leave the politics alone


you do realise that having someone chant monkey noises at you isnt politics right?
you do understand thats some racist bullshit right?
I dont see Raheem Sterling out on the pitch waving a Bernie Sanders flag. Hed just like to go about his profession without all the monkey noises.
Thats not politics.

[MFKS]

Firstly anti racism is for everyone who isn't a racist. It's not a left thing, only an idiot or a bigot would think otherwise. Take your pick.


Secondly, politicians are the people we shouldn't be leaving politics too. They look after the people who keep them in a job, and that isn't the local punter placing their votes every few years.

Most people don't give a flying duck about race

It is the left who constantly bring everything back to race with their identity politics

So who are the racists again? ?

[MFKS]

you do realise that having someone chant monkey noises at you isnt politics right?
you do understand thats some racist bullshit right?
I dont see Raheem Sterling out on the pitch waving a Bernie Sanders flag. Hed just like to go about his profession without all the monkey noises.
Thats not politics.

They are footballers

They are paid to kick a football about
Maybe they should stick to that

UEFA have options available to sanction FAs for Dan behaviour that breaches rules


It is the players who keep making this about them with their virtual signalling at every opportunity

It was Harry Kane who chose to open his mouth after the game and talk up his virtual signalling agenda rather than discuss the game and the result etc

As I said maybe they should actually stick to football

[plague]

They are footballers

They are paid to kick a football about
Maybe they should stick to that



They are football fans

They are paying to watch a football get kicked about
Maybe they should stick to that

[plague]

ima hang for a bit because i know you are doing your thing and are prob talking your way into yet another ban but the 'stick to football' is def an interesting thing.
We've seen it this week where the usually woke NBA brigade went real silent when they realised their views might cost themselves some money.
I agree its easy to jump on the bandwagon (Trump hate, cop hate etc) but geez it was interesting seeing players go silent on a pretty fundamentally basic issue.




also funny were the 'stick to sports' brigade now wanting these guys to not stick to sports.


i honestly believe that the richer you get the more cowardly you become. financial comfort is a freedom plenty of people are not willing to jeopardise.

[Frodo]

Most people don't give a flying duck about race

It is the left who constantly bring everything back to race with their identity politics

So who are the racists again? ?

The first point is almost true, the majority of the world doesn't care what race someone is. It's the racists who do.

And you're saying it's the fault of the person who called the racist out that a problem exists, rather than the racist. They should have just shut up and played football and not listened to the whistling and chants directed at them because it's in their contract? Basically, if someone is at work they are allowed to be racially abused according to your logic.


Let me guess, women also shouldn't complain about sexual assault if they are at work?


But yeah, somehow bring up the Left again in the hope that the word wins an argument for you rather than any facts.

[Frodo]

ima hang for a bit because i know you are doing your thing and are prob talking your way into yet another ban but the 'stick to football' is def an interesting thing.
We've seen it this week where the usually woke NBA brigade went real silent when they realised their views might cost themselves some money.
I agree its easy to jump on the bandwagon (Trump hate, cop hate etc) but geez it was interesting seeing players go silent on a pretty fundamentally basic issue.




also funny were the 'stick to sports' brigade now wanting these guys to not stick to sports.


i honestly believe that the richer you get the more cowardly you become. financial comfort is a freedom plenty of people are not willing to jeopardise.

You know the kids got in trouble when they made the cool guy come out and read his little prepared speech in front of the school.

[MFKS]

They are football fans

They are paying to watch a football get kicked about
Maybe they should stick to that

So Saturday night we are just to sit there and watch that site without mentioning the Gypos inbreeding Hutches mum and what we think of Matt Simon

Ok

[MFKS]

ima hang for a bit because i know you are doing your thing and are prob talking your way into yet another ban but the 'stick to football' is def an interesting thing.
We've seen it this week where the usually woke NBA brigade went real silent when they realised their views might cost themselves some money.
I agree its easy to jump on the bandwagon (Trump hate, cop hate etc) but geez it was interesting seeing players go silent on a pretty fundamentally basic issue.




also funny were the 'stick to sports' brigade now wanting these guys to not stick to sports.


i honestly believe that the richer you get the more cowardly you become. financial comfort is a freedom plenty of people are not willing to jeopardise.

Staying silent??

The NBA players??

They been coming out of the wood work trying to defend Communist China and attacking anyone who speaks up on Hong Kong protests

Rather ironic that these rich ****ers living in the land of Capitalism and free speech are supporting a nation who don't and are actively targeting a province of theirs who supports Capitalism and Free Speech

[MFKS]

The first point is almost true, the majority of the world doesn't care what race someone is. It's the racists who do.

And you're saying it's the fault of the person who called the racist out that a problem exists, rather than the racist. They should have just shut up and played football and not listened to the whistling and chants directed at them because it's in their contract? Basically, if someone is at work they are allowed to be racially abused according to your logic.


Let me guess, women also shouldn't complain about sexual assault if they are at work?


But yeah, somehow bring up the Left again in the hope that the word wins an argument for you rather than any facts.

If what you are saying that only racists care about race is true then that would mean that the left with their identity politics are racist then

They the ones who keep bringing it up

Throw in your virtue signallers too as they can't wait to bring up race


As for your other points if the virtue signallers and practitioners of leftist politics are inherently racist then there constantly calling a problem out is only exacerbating it

Apparently in 2019 we live in an age of wall to wall racism and white supremacy and the patriarchy etc thanks to these idiots

[plague]

Staying silent??

The NBA players??

They been coming out of the wood work trying to defend Communist China and attacking anyone who speaks up on Hong Kong protests

Rather ironic that these rich ****ers living in the land of Capitalism and free speech are supporting a nation who don't and are actively targeting a province of theirs who supports Capitalism and Free Speech

man oh man one day you're gonna read the posts.

the silence is on both the subject of the tweet at the centre of it all, which no one has addressed.
the silence is also on the one fundamental issue at the core of it all. Not the protests, not China, not Hong Kong, not democracy, not the money but the peoples individual right to freedom of speech. All any of these players had to say was "im not informed enough in China politics to comment but as Americans we have to respect Daryl Moreys right to free speech".


Thats all any of them needed to say. Now, the NBA commissioner ended up saying this in about the 30th moronic statement his PR team whipped up but by then the damage had been done.

Im absolutely fine with all the players saying "hey man ima be quiet and protect that paycheque". Ive no issue with that at all, its the fumbling attempt to remain 'woke' without saying anything is what the funny part is.

just admit you'd rather the money, its ok to do that.

[plague]

So Saturday night we are just to sit there and watch that site without mentioning the Gypos inbreeding Hutches mum and what we think of Matt Simon

Ok

if you cant tell the difference between being a bigot and not being a bigot then nothing you read on the foz here is gonna help you by now.

i wish you all the best on your journey though.

[MFKS]

if you cant tell the difference between being a bigot and not being a bigot then nothing you read on the foz here is gonna help you by now.

i wish you all the best on your journey though.

Point being is it is a fine line for when a crowd crosses the line and stays within the boundaries

The players ain't the ones who Police it just as it ain't Boogaard or Dimis job to tell us to behave on Saturday

The FA and UEFA have more than enough pull to deal with the issue of Bulgarian fans misbehaving


The players are making it about themselves by using the media as a vehicle to virtue signal

If they had any credibility they would have walked off the pitch as they have threatened to do on several occasions but have continued to fail to do so

[MFKS]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/20/haringey-yeovil-abandoned-racism-allegations-police-investigate

Now Plague

These guys showed more spine than those virtue signalling fools in the EPL representing England did


Least they had the balls to walk off the pitch and abandon a game

[plague]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/20/haringey-yeovil-abandoned-racism-allegations-police-investigate

Now Plague

These guys showed more spine than those virtue signalling fools in the EPL representing England did


Least they had the balls to walk off the pitch and abandon a game

yeah i saw that. it will be interesting to see how it all unfolds as I believe that the team with the racist fans was actually winning 1-0 at the time of the walk off.

will also be interesting to see how Yeovil handle it too. they promised to help authorities but lets face it, there were 6 blokes and a dog supporting that team. everyone there knows who the alleged racist was. think they are gonna finger one of their own.


so lets flip it around. how would you deal with it? punish the club? who wins the tie? because some suit now has to try and answer all these questions to the approval of a lot of people. lets hear how the Good Member would solve it.

[MFKS]

yeah i saw that. it will be interesting to see how it all unfolds as I believe that the team with the racist fans was actually winning 1-0 at the time of the walk off.

will also be interesting to see how Yeovil handle it too. they promised to help authorities but lets face it, there were 6 blokes and a dog supporting that team. everyone there knows who the alleged racist was. think they are gonna finger one of their own.


so lets flip it around. how would you deal with it? punish the club? who wins the tie? because some suit now has to try and answer all these questions to the approval of a lot of people. lets hear how the Good Member would solve it.

Just clarifying you want my opinion here is that right??

Well how about the do Gooding PC Virtue Signalling Leftist who decided to make the whole racism in football campaign answer it

Because it is that clown who owped the Pandoras Box here



They are the one to answer it Because they deserve the criticism

The problem with their model of social justice is that equality of outcome is a bull shit idea

They have chosen to impose an idea on Football that sees a requirement for equality of outcome
Their job to explain that to the masses now

Sport and Politics don't mix for a reason

[plague]

Just clarifying you want my opinion here is that right??



yeah yeah.
just wondering how you would solve the issue of the match itself.
i mean, the team walked off and they were losing. How do we solve the issue of the match itself. not the racism, i dont expect you to solve that.

its just a weird situation.

[MFKS]

yeah yeah.
just wondering how you would solve the issue of the match itself.
i mean, the team walked off and they were losing. How do we solve the issue of the match itself. not the racism, i dont expect you to solve that.

its just a weird situation.

I still think nothing is the answer

You kick the Yeovil club out then all you are doing is encouraging ****wits to go buy a ticket to their rivals games and get them kicked out of things

Everton fans be queuing up to get tickets to Anfield to cost Liverpool the EPL and they be pissing themselves laughing when it happened. ****s would be having whip around to get the bloke out on bail too and the **** wouldn't have to buy a beer ever again


They are opening the biggest Pandoras Box trying to be touching this subject

[Frodo]

I still think nothing is the answer

You kick the Yeovil club out then all you are doing is encouraging ****wits to go buy a ticket to their rivals games and get them kicked out of things

Everton fans be queuing up to get tickets to Anfield to cost Liverpool the EPL and they be pissing themselves laughing when it happened. ****s would be having whip around to get the bloke out on bail too and the **** wouldn't have to buy a beer ever again


They are opening the biggest Pandoras Box trying to be touching this subject

Ever thought about just punishing the person committing the act? Or does your unnecessary outrage skim past such simple acts of common sense...

[MFKS]

Ever thought about just punishing the person committing the act? Or does your unnecessary outrage skim past such simple acts of common sense...

And punishing individuals works how well on this issue??

Hasn't worked despite decades of attempts

Why you think sanctioning an individual is going to remove a societal problem that is also deeply entwined with our tribalistic nature we are all blessed by??

[plague]

I still think nothing is the answer


So Yeovil go through to the next round?
Because then you're flipping it around and saying racially abusing an opposition player is a legitimate tactic yeah?

Because it worked for Yeovil.

[MFKS]

So Yeovil go through to the next round?
Because then you're flipping it around and saying racially abusing an opposition player is a legitimate tactic yeah?

Because it worked for Yeovil.


If teams want to walk off and forfeit games based on their so called beliefs then they are more than entitled to

They want to bring their politics into sport or virtue signal then they can lose the game as a consequence


Might make them focus on actually playing football

[Frodo]

If teams want to walk off and forfeit games based on their so called beliefs then they are more than entitled to

They want to bring their politics into sport or virtue signal then they can lose the game as a consequence


Might make them focus on actually playing football

I feel like you're a 12 yr old kid who thinks "sports" are just games that EA bring out each year. I mean, never in the history of sports has politics or human rights ever even been remotely close to an issue. Players aren't even humans really, they are walking talking contractual agreements designed for your entertainment and nothing else. You would have a been a very unhappy man at the 1936 Berlin Olympics.


Also, side note, it's not "their beliefs" it's common practice for human beings to be against racism. Racists are the minority, not the majority. Don't let the guy in the TV convince you otherwise.

[StannyCFCJET]

If teams want to walk off and forfeit games based on their so called beliefs then they are more than entitled to

They want to bring their politics into sport or virtue signal then they can lose the game as a consequence


Might make them focus on actually playing football

So Racism is just a part of society and we should just accept it and try and ignore it? Wow you always find ways to sink lower and lower

[plague]

If teams want to walk off and forfeit games based on their so called beliefs then they are more than entitled to

They want to bring their politics into sport or virtue signal then they can lose the game as a consequence


Might make them focus on actually playing football

So if the ref calls it off?
who benefits then?

[MFKS]

So Racism is just a part of society and we should just accept it and try and ignore it? Wow you always find ways to sink lower and lower

Can think of better things to concern myself with

As it ain't that important of an issue in my eyes

Equality of outcome is a flawed concept

[MFKS]

So if the ref calls it off?
who benefits then?

Ref already has the power to call a game off already
So consult the competition rules then

[plague]

Ref already has the power to call a game off already
So consult the competition rules then

but heres the problem. The refs obligations and instructions are written down in the rules in black and white (pardon the pun).
but once we enforce the rules, it then goes off into the never never for a bunch of suits to decide.
same with racism, the ref can call it off, but no one has any idea what happens after that.

and fwiw, you are actually dead wrong as far as people bringing their 'beliefs' into football.
its in the rules, the same as offside, the same as handball the same as the whole of the ball being over the whole of the line.

people bringing racism into the game is not some trendy cause. its a ****ing rule.

[MFKS]

but heres the problem. The refs obligations and instructions are written down in the rules in black and white (pardon the pun).
but once we enforce the rules, it then goes off into the never never for a bunch of suits to decide.
same with racism, the ref can call it off, but no one has any idea what happens after that.

and fwiw, you are actually dead wrong as far as people bringing their 'beliefs' into football.
its in the rules, the same as offside, the same as handball the same as the whole of the ball being over the whole of the line.

people bringing racism into the game is not some trendy cause. its a ****ing rule.

The refs obl8gations and instructions are not really well written down in black and white for abandoning games based on racist comments from the crowd

It is a very liberal interpretation of a loosely word rule that would give him the ok to do it


The reason it is though an option is from policy of FAs and your suits you refer to and it would be them pushing this angle on referees to do this

Yes it would then go back to them to adjudicate but then is this any different than them fining Bert 5k last year for what were pretty mild comments about refereeing standards in the HAL??

The people making rules decide the punishment etc

It is all open to interpretation and thus becomes a cluster **** from the get go

[Jetmaster]

So Racism is just a part of society and we should just accept it and try and ignore it? Wow you always find ways to sink lower and lower

Will racism be totally stopped, honestly, I doubt it. Been around for decades. Being serious for minute it is the reaction, fuelled by social media that is making this seem bigger that it ever was.

Go back to the 70's - Clyde Best and The Three Degrees (Cunningham, Batson and Regis) - they copped it when common derogatory words were acceptable socially and in media. Guys like that went through far more hell as trailblazers, didn't blink, stood their ground played football and won. They, and several others, are true football legends. After their efforts racism dropped out of the newspapers for some time.

[plague]

Go back to the 70's - Clyde Best and The Three Degrees (Cunningham, Batson and Regis) - they copped it when common derogatory words were acceptable socially and in media. Guys like that went through far more hell as trailblazers, didn't blink, stood their ground played football and won. They, and several others, are true football legends. After their efforts racism dropped out of the newspapers for some time.


yes thats a good take remember how Halle Berry is 80% deaf in one ear from getting the shit beaten out of her by her partner but shes now super famous so maybe its cool to keep beating the shit out of little girls and maybe they'll grow up one day to win an Oscar too ITS ALL ABOUT MENTAL FORTITUDE GUYS!!!!!!

[plague]

The refs obl8gations and instructions are not really well written down in black and white for abandoning games based on racist comments from the crowd

It is a very liberal interpretation of a loosely word rule that would give him the ok to do it


The reason it is though an option is from policy of FAs and your suits you refer to and it would be them pushing this angle on referees to do this

Yes it would then go back to them to adjudicate but then is this any different than them fining Bert 5k last year for what were pretty mild comments about refereeing standards in the HAL??

The people making rules decide the punishment etc

It is all open to interpretation and thus becomes a cluster **** from the get go


ive often thought the offside rule is a Right Wing Conspiracy too brah.

[plague]

For anyone wondering what actually happened and the aftermath.
https://deadspin.com/fa-cup-match-to-be-replayed-after-team-walked-off-the-f-1839237634

[MFKS]

For anyone wondering what actually happened and the aftermath.
https://deadspin.com/fa-cup-match-to-be-replayed-after-team-walked-off-the-f-1839237634

So we got people taking offence blowing this up deluxe when it didn't happen to them

Where exactly is the victim in all this ??

Pretty silent it seems


That just as big apart of the problem here.


Outrage culture with all these Muppets taking offence on behalf of some other ****

These people are just creating mountains out of molehills when the victim makes less if a fuss than they do

[Bon]

So we got people taking offence blowing this up deluxe when it didn't happen to them

Where exactly is the victim in all this ??


That just as big apart of the problem here. Outrage culture with all these Muppets taking offence on behalf of some other ****


These people are just creating mountains out of molehills

Ummmm.. the victim is the bloke having sh!t thrown at him and being called a "a monkey c$#%" JUST because of the colour of his skin...

How is that right? Or a simple molehill?
It's more concerning that you can't see that that sort of behaviour is absolutely fvcked and totally unacceptable..

[MFKS]

Ummmm.. the victim is the bloke having sh!t thrown at him and being called a "a monkey c$#%" JUST because of the colour of his skin...

How is that right? Or a simple molehill?
It's more concerning that you can't see that that sort of behaviour is absolutely fvcked and totally unacceptable..

And who is blowing this issue up??

The victim or other people it didn't actually happen to ???

Because old mate seems to have said and done **** all

[plague]

Where exactly is the victim in all this ??

Pretty silent it seems




and Achillea said the defender was so incensed he had to be restrained from approaching away fans

if wanting to punch on with some racists assholes is 'being silent' then cool cool.

I mean, its right there in the article.

Im getting worried Member, you used to be able to deliver these with just enough over the top idiocy that any normal person could see that you couldnt be serious.

nowadays, just idiocy.

I guess you're getting both better, and worse at the same time.

so ummm congrats (i think).

[MFKS]

if wanting to punch on with some racists assholes is 'being silent' then cool cool.

I mean, its right there in the article.

Im getting worried Member, you used to be able to deliver these with just enough over the top idiocy that any normal person could see that you couldnt be serious.

nowadays, just idiocy.

I guess you're getting both better, and worse at the same time.

so ummm congrats (i think).

Where the goal keeper in all this??

90% of the actions of these morons seem to be directed his way

[Frodo]

Where the goal keeper in all this??

90% of the actions of these morons seem to be directed his way

Probably fearing for his safety by a group of racists thugs. What do you want him to do, come out and antagonize even more racist Neanderthals? Do you think he doesn't deserve to be treated like a human because he won't come out and fight the guys who attacked him with bottles and spit and verbal abuse?

Hopefully the replay is filled with better people and Yeovil Town don't get punished for a small group of idiot fans. But if they can't control their fans, then the team gets punished.

[The Dunster]

yes thats a good take remember how Halle Berry is 80% deaf in one ear from getting the shit beaten out of her by her partner but shes now super famous so maybe its cool to keep beating the shit out of little girls and maybe they'll grow up one day to win an Oscar too ITS ALL ABOUT MENTAL FORTITUDE GUYS!!!!!!

Dave Justice left Halle Berry around 1996. She reacted by taking out a restraining order against him. Later on she spoke out about being in a violent relationship which led to her losing 80% of her hearing in one ear.
People automatically assumed it was David Justice that was responsible.
Some time after 2010 Halle Berry mentioned that the incident leading to her deafness took place years before she was with David Justice.

Ouch.

I think everyone now knows who it was now but holy crap pretty low act letting Justice cop shit for so long.

[plague]

I think everyone now knows who it was now but holy crap pretty low act letting Justice cop shit for so long.

nah, none of this is any of her fault.
and **** any of you dinosaurs for even insinuating it.


just because some of you had a giggle at some bullshit 70's British 'comedies' doesnt mean that shit still flies.
we dont need to go back and lynch everyone for their views and statements back in the day, it was a different time. i get it.

but nowadays, if you cant grasp the concept of 'dont be racist' and 'dont beat up women' then theres nothing more society can do for you.

[plague]

Where the goal keeper in all this??

90% of the actions of these morons seem to be directed his way

The good member auditioning as the new commissioner of the AFL.

Every time you miss, just move the goalposts so you can award yourself some points.

well played.

[MFKS]

nah, none of this is any of her fault.
and **** any of you dinosaurs for even insinuating it.


just because some of you had a giggle at some bullshit 70's British 'comedies' doesnt mean that shit still flies.
we dont need to go back and lynch everyone for their views and statements back in the day, it was a different time. i get it.

but nowadays, if you cant grasp the concept of 'dont be racist' and 'dont beat up women' then theres nothing more society can do for you.

How can you make the statement that none of this is any of her fault??

She could be a total bitch in real life you wouldn't have a clue what type of toxic female behaviour she has

Doesn't justify the response of giving her a flogging as you don't hit women

But the reality is violence is a human response to poor behaviour

And I don't believe that people copping flogging never said or did a thing because that ain't how things go

[plague]

How can you make the statement that none of this is any of her fault??



Doesn't justify the response of giving her a flogging as you don't hit women


I love it when right between big breaths through your mouth that you both disagree with me, then yourself, all in the one post.

It's a skill.

[The Dunster]

nah, none of this is any of her fault.
and **** any of you dinosaurs for even insinuating it.


just because some of you had a giggle at some bullshit 70's British 'comedies' doesnt mean that shit still flies.
we dont need to go back and lynch everyone for their views and statements back in the day, it was a different time. i get it.

but nowadays, if you cant grasp the concept of 'dont be racist' and 'dont beat up women' then theres nothing more society can do for you.

I was around in the 60's and 70's and on balance things haven't really changed for the good anywhere near as much as the media / revisionists let on.

Anyone that referred to a person of colour in a derogatory way was pretty much jumped by the majority of people and pulled into line.

Your idea of how things were is nothing even approaching reality - it's just a sensationalised media perspective.

Absolutely true that bad shit happened back in the 60's and 70's but there's a lot of racist / sexist shit going down over the past ten years or so which would have horrified people back in the 60's and 70's as well with respect to social media abuse and legalized racism / sexualism / religious bias and so on now under the banner of "Cultural Fit".

I'd be confident to say that discrimination and hate crimes are more prevalent today than they were in the 60's and 70's - it's just that the distribution has changed.

EDIT: Just read the members response to your response to my post. Holy crap - it would appear that my post has given out the wrong message. That was not my intention. Nobody deserves to be beaten up like Berry was. But nobody should let an innocent man be subjected to personal abuse for ten years either.

[MFKS]

I love it when right between big breaths through your mouth that you both disagree with me, then yourself, all in the one post.

It's a skill.

Because we live in a world where women get the pussy pass so are denied the smack in the head a male gets when he carries on in similar circumstances

Doesn't mean that when some man steps over the line and smacks a woman that she didn't do anything to warrant it

Hell the don't hit women thing drummed in to men saves them all a lot of arse whooping

Because plenty of women cross the line with their behaviour as they aren't held accountable for their actions like a man would be thanks to this policy men have

[Skirt Boy]

I'd be confident to say that discrimination and hate crimes are more prevalent today than they were in the 60's and 70's - it's just that the distribution has changed.




Thanks to mum ticking a certain box on a government form I can confirm that certain sectors of society are treated differently when they face the same problems.

[plague]

I'd be confident to say that discrimination and hate crimes are more prevalent today than they were in the 60's and 70's - it's just that the distribution has changed.


i dont/nor cant dispute that. You only have to look at the reason why we are discussing it (a black man going to work getting called a Monkey C***) to see that its still around.
its just that any kind of bullshit like this gets called out instead of accepted.
TV shows like Kingswood Country and Love Thy Neighbour might not have been considered 'offensive' at the time. But today they are just not how its done. The world has moved on, and so should attitudes. Of course people take it too far (hating on Megan Markle because shes a snot nosed royal isnt racism, hating on Megan Markle because shes black is), Jussie Smollett was a perfect example. but guess what, he lied and paid a heavy price too. We dont have to put up with that bullshit either.

We still have countries that dont let women go to the football, nor drive. Its still around and its shit.
But im more than cool just living in a place that doesnt feel the need to put up with it.

[plague]

I'd be confident to say that discrimination and hate crimes are more prevalent today than they were in the 60's and 70's - it's just that the distribution has changed.


How ever would you come to that conclusion...........




Because we live in a world where women get the pussy pass so are denied the smack in the head a male gets when he carries on in similar circumstances

Doesn't mean that when some man steps over the line and smacks a woman that she didn't do anything to warrant it

Hell the don't hit women thing drummed in to men saves them all a lot of arse whooping

Because plenty of women cross the line with their behaviour as they aren't held accountable for their actions like a man would be thanks to this policy men have


oh.

[The Dunster]

How ever would you come to that conclusion...........oh.

Because the range of tools and opportunities available for such purposes have increased as well as people's access to them.
I'd definitely say body shaming is a bigger thing now than it was in the 60's and 70's - not just for women but for men also.
Attacks upon peoples socioeconomic status today are far more common than they were in the past. The term dole bludger was not even around in the 1960's. It was a term developed by a Melbourne Newspaper using a photo of some well to do kids around a swimming pool who'd probably never been unemployed for a day in their life.
Today, you don't need to be a journalist or own a newspaper to spread such hate - anyone can do it with just a phone or a computer.
Narcissism in general is much more prevalent today than it was in the past but admittedly it's been my generation that allowed it to happen - but current generations have taken it to another level.

[The Dunster]

i dont/nor cant dispute that. You only have to look at the reason why we are discussing it (a black man going to work getting called a Monkey C***) to see that its still around.
its just that any kind of bullshit like this gets called out instead of accepted.
TV shows like Kingswood Country and Love Thy Neighbour might not have been considered 'offensive' at the time. But today they are just not how its done. The world has moved on, and so should attitudes. Of course people take it too far (hating on Megan Markle because shes a snot nosed royal isnt racism, hating on Megan Markle because shes black is), Jussie Smollett was a perfect example. but guess what, he lied and paid a heavy price too. We dont have to put up with that bullshit either.

We still have countries that dont let women go to the football, nor drive. Its still around and its shit.
But im more than cool just living in a place that doesnt feel the need to put up with it.

Love thy neighbor is only offensive to white people. In Nigeria and the Weest Indies it rates well even today because it portrays Eddie as the idiot / dickhead and Bill as the intelligent / voice of reason. It also protrayed Kate and Barbie [the wifes] as being smarter than both the men put together.
It's really a statement against racism and gender discrimination. To be pro racism it would have portrayed Bill as the bad guy and Eddie as a victim.

A lot of white people in the 70's found Love Thy Neighbor and Kingswood country offensive. It's completely wrong to think of it as being universally accepted.
I prefered to watch Good Times or Mash.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5rKZs6HnB4

Think of it like saying today that everyone thinks the Kardashian Family are wonderful.

[plague]

It's really a statement against racism and gender discrimination.

because we needed a charming British sit-com to teach us all about racism and discrimination?

nah.

[plague]

Because the range of tools and opportunities available for such purposes have increased as well as people's access to them.
I'd definitely say body shaming is a bigger thing now than it was in the 60's and 70's - not just for women but for men also.
Attacks upon peoples socioeconomic status today are far more common than they were in the past. The term dole bludger was not even around in the 1960's. It was a term developed by a Melbourne Newspaper using a photo of some well to do kids around a swimming pool who'd probably never been unemployed for a day in their life.
Today, you don't need to be a journalist or own a newspaper to spread such hate - anyone can do it with just a phone or a computer.
Narcissism in general is much more prevalent today than it was in the past but admittedly it's been my generation that allowed it to happen - but current generations have taken it to another level.

anyway we are now at the stage where everyone is missing the obvious gags so im bummed out and am ready to go for a walk.
plus you know the good Member is about to thunder in and make some fart noises with his keyboard again soo.

lets get back to football.

Benzema is now the 4th highest all time Champions League goalscorers.
thats just a stunning, stunning stat.
the hell are we even watching anymore?

[The Dunster]

Benzema is now the 4th highest all time Champions League goalscorers.
thats just a stunning, stunning stat.
the hell are we even watching anymore?

His off field life hasn't helped his profile. Great player but controversy often surrounds him.

[plague]

His off field life hasn't helped his profile. Great player but controversy often surrounds him.

Oh. Didn't know he had any issues.

Just found it weird as he always seemed to be the guy playing striker until Madrid could sign a proper striker.
Plus needed to share those goals with Ronaldo and being 4th is pretty amazing.

[The Dunster]

Oh. Didn't know he had any issues.

Just found it weird as he always seemed to be the guy playing striker until Madrid could sign a proper striker.
Plus needed to share those goals with Ronaldo and being 4th is pretty amazing.

Underage prostitute case with Ribery [Case eventually dropped], doesn't sing the French National Anthem, alleged blackmail of Mathieu Valbuena [Case also dropped I think]... he's no stranger to controversy - but he's no doubt a target as well.