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GazFish35
18-03-2016, 10:35 PM
When we are finally sold to the highest bidder what are people's thoughts on
1. what MUST stay,
2. what SHOULD stay,
3. What new things MUST happen,
4. What new things SHOULD happen.
5. Anything old that's gone, but MUST return.
6. Anything old that's gone, but SHOULD return.
7. Anything else you'd like to add.


I'm gonna compile them so the subcommittee have a series of broader views to present. So keep things realistic please.

Premy
18-03-2016, 11:31 PM
Playing at a venue with a smaller capacity.
Playing in a predominantly Gold strip with touches of Blue and Red.

GazFish35
18-03-2016, 11:38 PM
In the short term, what venue do you see as a genuine option?

Premy
18-03-2016, 11:47 PM
In the short term, what venue do you see as a genuine option?

Hunter Stadium until a suitable 15-20,000 seat venue can be built.

Boss
19-03-2016, 02:56 AM
So get the new owners to build a new multi million dollar stadium that we would be aiming to grow out of? I dont get it

Premy
19-03-2016, 07:56 AM
So get the new owners to build a new multi million dollar stadium that we would be aiming to grow out of? I dont get it
I don't expect the typical Australian to get it.
Truth is the 8-9k crowd we get quite regular is pretty soulless in the 33,000 capacity Hunter Stadium. Studies and examples from all around the world show that by having smaller football specific stadia actually increases demand for tickets and creates a more personal and enjoyable experience.
A smaller Football specific stadia heightens the atmosphere, along with having it in heart of the respective CBD improves the match day experience which is supported by local businesses before and prior to the game.

halo se7en
19-03-2016, 08:04 AM
I don't expect the typical Australian to get it.
Truth is the 8-9k crowd we get quite regular is pretty soulless in the 33,000 capacity Hunter Stadium. Studies and examples from all around the world show that by having smaller football specific stadia actually increases demand for tickets and creates a more personal and enjoyable experience.
A smaller Football specific stadia heightens the atmosphere, along with having it in heart of the respective CBD improves the match day experience which is supported by local businesses before and prior to the game.

It didn't feel empty last week. Granted, we had the noise from RBB, but overall we only had 12,000 people. A Jets side playing decent football and consistently making the finals would regularly see at least 12-14k every week - I don't think our stadium is an issue. At least it's not Suncorp. And where on earth would you build a football stadium in the heart of Newcastle CBD??

Premy
19-03-2016, 09:19 AM
It didn't feel empty last week. Granted, we had the noise from RBB, but overall we only had 12,000 people. A Jets side playing decent football and consistently making the finals would regularly see at least 12-14k every week - I don't think our stadium is an issue. At least it's not Suncorp. And where on earth would you build a football stadium in the heart of Newcastle CBD??
No.2, Athletics Feild, find a new home for the Croquet, Wickham Park.

Yeah and picture a 12-14k crowd every week in a 16k capacity stadium? The place would be bouncing.
Look at Loftus Road, the place is buzzing every game because it's packed. Better example look at several MSL Clubs. Many of their Stadia are around the 20k mark and it creates a demand for tickets/Season passes.

MFKS
19-03-2016, 11:27 AM
The E&C needs to return same with the gold

**** off the blue and red forever


Those fighter Jets need to appear every game

The EJ program needs a massive overhaul.

We need some realistic goals. Team full of locals or a Gun side to win a comp.
Whatever it is get a ****ing plan and stop making it up as we go

Prices of tickets need to raise to realistic levels to fund the club

Supporters should be issued a hat each season in the shape of a Jet

The Dunster
19-03-2016, 11:35 AM
With the current ownership of lack of a smaller stadium makes sense. However, when we get a new owner and can afford a team that will be finals contenders the club will have no trouble filling up the current stadium.

stopper2
19-03-2016, 11:37 AM
Once and for all we have to decide what our colours are going to be. I recall at the Forums last year that this was discussed and that for next season and beyond members would be having input into our colours. Can understand though with the dragging out of the ownership that this decision has been put on the backburner but once a new owner takes over we need to decide on what our playing colours are going to be and stick with them. We can't keep going on with this chameleon type existence because we lose our identity as a club.

On the stadium issue raised above, can't see the point in talking about it, I mean we have struggled for years to fund a football club in Newcastle so where are we going to get funds to build another stadium??? The state and federal governments injected funds to build the Western stadium because of the fact it was used all year round and the Jets showed that they could draw huge crowds just like the Knights. Can just imagine what the reaction would if we put forth a proposal to have our own stadium....not going to happen.

On that point also, we showed in the 06/07 and 07/08 seasons that a Jets side playing decent football and playing finals football will attract crowds of 14,000 minimum and up to 18-20k and over 20,000 for big game Finals. 12-14k is a very conservative figure, I daresay the growth of the game in the region in those 8 years since our heyday has been very strong with many more participants at all ages and levels, particularly in girls/womens. I really believe we have the potential to average over 16k if we have a club which this region believes in and a team which excites people and makes them want to come and watch.

The Dunster
19-03-2016, 11:40 AM
The E&C needs to return same with the gold

**** off the blue and red forever


Those fighter Jets need to appear every game

The EJ program needs a massive overhaul.

We need some realistic goals. Team full of locals or a Gun side to win a comp.
Whatever it is get a ****ing plan and stop making it up as we go

Prices of tickets need to raise to realistic levels to fund the club

Supporters should be issued a hat each season in the shape of a Jet

Any Newcastle Jets team trying to fund its activities primarily on ticket sales will be doomed to failure. Prices need to be set to maximise sales not profits or revenues - that way you get the stadium full. With a full stadium you get corporate interest and with that you get sponsorship dollars. Moreover, you get an atmosphere that will lure players to the club - I would hope anyway.

MFKS
19-03-2016, 12:07 PM
Any Newcastle Jets team trying to fund its activities primarily on ticket sales will be doomed to failure. Prices need to be set to maximise sales not profits or revenues - that way you get the stadium full. With a full stadium you get corporate interest and with that you get sponsorship dollars. Moreover, you get an atmosphere that will lure players to the club - I would hope anyway.

Disagree

I bought some tickets for games away V Roar Victree Gypos this week

I am paying well over $30 per match to go watch us lose.


Our Members are paying about $10 a game to watch us lose at Stade de Newy every week


Everyone whinges about the lack of personnel at our club compared to others. If our revenue is that small because tickets are not comparative to our rival maybe we need to raise them to appropriate levels to be more competitive on the pitch and across the club??

Not expect a magic team and club but contribute **** all out of our own pockets

baldrick
19-03-2016, 12:23 PM
When we are finally sold to the highest bidder what are people's thoughts on

1. what MUST stay, if any are left, all the back room staff who have been with the club through the crap times

2. what SHOULD stay,the coaching staff. Given their limited funds, I think they've done a pretty good job. With new owners, hopefully with cash to throw around we'll carve the league up.

3. What new things MUST happen,we have to sort our colours out & stick with them. Forever. No more chopping & changing. The members were promised the opportunity to decide & this must be followed through on.

Every other club has a marquee. Surely the second biggest city in NSW deserves one too.


4. What new things SHOULD happen.This might piss some people off, but a new anthem. Don't get me wrong; NTUA is an awesome song & part of our history but it doesn't seem to get the crowd involved, like Victree's "stand by me" or City's "so happy together"

5. Anything old that's gone, but MUST return. (Am thinking about these 2. Will be back later)
6. Anything old that's gone, but SHOULD return.

7. Anything else you'd like to add.
I'd like to see the active support either return to bay 1/2 OR preferably be allowed on the southern hill. I understand why the move was made to bay 60 (I don't blame you for wanting to get out of the sun, especially in the middle of summer) but with most of the crowd in the western stand, we can't seeor hear you. People want to get involved in cheering/singing but we need someone visible and audible to lead us


I'm gonna compile them so the subcommittee have a series of broader views to present. So keep things realistic please.

Answers from an old guy.

WolfMan
19-03-2016, 06:26 PM
Those fighter Jets need to appear every game



We need some realistic goals.

The fact you have typed these two things in the same post is hilarious.

You obviously don't know how much $$$ it costs to get a fighter jet off the ground.

Once a year if we are lucky enough would be grand

MFKS
19-03-2016, 08:50 PM
The fact you have typed these two things in the same post is hilarious.

You obviously don't know how much $$$ it costs to get a fighter jet off the ground.

Once a year if we are lucky enough would be grand

Taxpayers $$ it costs anyway
Bribe some bloke at the RAAF and "training flights" are organised on match days.

Not hard

hawk
19-03-2016, 10:22 PM
Everyone whinges about the lack of personnel at our club compared to others. If our revenue is that small because tickets are not comparative to our rival maybe we need to raise them to appropriate levels to be more competitive on the pitch and across the club??


If is wasnt for the $12 tix we would need cardboard cutouts in the stands to avoid embarrassment. where is that guy?

WolfMan
19-03-2016, 11:34 PM
Taxpayers $$ it costs anyway
Bribe some bloke at the RAAF and "training flights" are organised on match days.

Not hard

Like most government departments, defence has a budget.

Which is why you may notice increased flights around the EOFY, to ensure they use the entire budget.

Literally send planes up for fun

Schultz
20-03-2016, 03:21 AM
Taxpayers $$ it costs anyway
Bribe some bloke at the RAAF and "training flights" are organised on match days.

Not hard

I'm sure Top Gun can organise this.

stopper2
05-04-2016, 08:58 PM
In the pre-match it's time we got a new video to support NTUA. I think the current one is about 3 seasons old and has footage pf players scoring penalties FFS.
Surley the club can come up with an updated video that's a bit more exciting and inspiring than the current one?

Jeterpool
06-04-2016, 09:04 AM
1. what MUST stay,

Agree with the backroom staff. They have been with us through rough, shoestring times. Given a budget I'd like to see what they are really capable of.
The current community engagement program
The members sub committee, because despite not getting much credit for some off the off field fan activities there have been some excellent ideas and initiatives come from within the group.

2. what SHOULD stay,


3. What new things MUST happen,

A fan representative on the board
Start treating the emerging Jets program seriously by owning it ourselves and investing in it.
Develop our own "center of excellence" facility
Investment in the squad and utilise the cap exemptions so we can compete on an even playing field.

4. What new things SHOULD happen.

Regular fan engagement forums

5. Anything old that's gone, but MUST return.

I'll have to think

6. Anything old that's gone, but SHOULD return.

After match presentations

7. Anything else you'd like to add.

Don't be daft and take us for fools.

Tommyjet
06-04-2016, 10:51 AM
Just want it to happen!
I can just see us sitting by while other clubs are signing up the better players we could be at least in the running for while ffa reject possibly awesome owners for the sake of a few thousand or so.
Miller still sitting around not knowing if he will be kept on and if so, what his budget will be.

hawk
08-04-2016, 09:57 AM
Just want it to happen!
I can just see us sitting by while other clubs are signing up the better players we could be at least in the running for while ffa reject possibly awesome owners for the sake of a few thousand or so.
Miller still sitting around not knowing if he will be kept on and if so, what his budget will be.

so jets

Frodo
08-04-2016, 11:40 AM
Just want it to happen!
I can just see us sitting by while other clubs are signing up the better players we could be at least in the running for while ffa reject possibly awesome owners for the sake of a few thousand or so.
Miller still sitting around not knowing if he will be kept on and if so, what his budget will be.

Mate, i'm glad you're not involved in the sale. You need to remember what happened the last time they let 'anyone' buy us???

As someone said in the other thread, the last time Mr Lee out money into football he almost demanded to turn it into the Chinese Super League Reserve grade competition.

I don't care how many players we miss out on if at the end of all this we get an owner who builds us into a functioning footballing club who wins trophies.

GazFish35
08-04-2016, 12:03 PM
for some its all about next season. for others its about the long term

plague
08-04-2016, 01:39 PM
the last time Mr Lee out money into football he almost demanded to turn it into the Chinese Super League Reserve grade competition.


Imagine though if we unearth the Asian Kale Bradbury.

Member would be so happy, and that would make me happy.

Grimario
08-04-2016, 02:50 PM
Imagine though if we unearth the Asian Kale Bradbury.

Member would be so happy, and that would make me happy.

I thought we already had the Asian Kale... isn't it called Pak Choi?

plague
08-04-2016, 03:49 PM
I thought we already had the Asian Kale... isn't it called Pak Choi?

I mean that's a terrible joke but I love terrible jokes so please accept some dap.

belchardo
08-04-2016, 07:47 PM
I thought we already had the Asian Kale... isn't it called Pak Choi?

Well played sir.

Bon
13-04-2016, 10:01 AM
I thought we already had the Asian Kale... isn't it called Pak Choi?

:lulzturtle:

hawk
13-04-2016, 11:30 PM
I don't care how many players we miss out on if at the end of all this we get an owner who builds us into a functioning footballing club who wins trophies.

Thing is no matter how long we wait the buyer will be tight ass and not buy good players so lets just get someone in and screw us again.

MFKS
14-04-2016, 08:19 AM
Thing is no matter how long we wait the buyer will be tight ass and not buy good players so lets just get someone in and screw us again.

This is so true.

stopper2
20-04-2016, 10:11 AM
Running any football club and youth programs for that matter can be a cut-throat business. Tough decisions need to be made all the time and invariably there is going to be a lot of disappointment whether it is a 15 year old being cut from the Jets program or a 25 year old being told he is not longer part of the Jets A League squad.
How you treat people can make a big difference though; you treat people with decency, honesty and respect.....you will get that respect back in return.
The club talks of engaging with the local community yet at the same time it has got so many people off-side and basically peeved off because of their treatment of players.
Just as an example look at the amount of players who have chosen to leave the Youth team in the last 12 months. If this was a positive, nurturing environment that makes the players want to be a part of, would they be leaving?
You would be hard-pressed to find someone who has spent a few years in the Emerging Jets/Youth program to say it has been a positive and enjoyable experience.
This is something which needs to be addressed and rectified under the new ownership.

MFKS
20-04-2016, 10:34 AM
Look no further than the peie running it

That to me where the problem lies.

Too many egos and no accountability has manifested it into the problem it is

hawk
20-04-2016, 07:16 PM
Running any football club and youth programs for that matter can be a cut-throat business. Tough decisions need to be made all the time and invariably there is going to be a lot of disappointment whether it is a 15 year old being cut from the Jets program or a 25 year old being told he is not longer part of the Jets A League squad.
.
What about a 22yr old whos mum is trying to get him into the jets?

StannyCFCJET
20-04-2016, 09:05 PM
What about a 22yr old whos mum is trying to get him into the jets?

hahaha i saw that on facebook as well was like wtf

hawk
23-04-2016, 12:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSLB2K3FPRw