15/16 HAL Round 27 | Central Coast Mariners v Newcastle Jets| Saturday 9/4/16 @515pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 15/16 Round 27 Preview - Central Coast Mariners v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 37 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 10, Mariners Wins - 13, Drawn - 14


In Newcastle – 18 matches.
Jets Wins - 7, Mariners Wins - 4, Drawn - 7
In Gosford - 18 matches
Jets Wins - 2, Mariners Wins - 9, Drawn - 7

Average Home A-League Crowd – 12523
Average Away A-League Crowd - 11059

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 31, Mariners - 44
In Gosford -
Jets – 11, Mariners - 28

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 18, Mariners - 16

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 92 (88 yellow, 4 red), Mariners 54 (50 yellow, 4 red)

Recent Form (FFA Cup & A-League)
Jets - LLDLL (1 points from last 15)
Mariners - LLDLL (1 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Milos Trifunovic (9)
Mariners – Roy O'Donovan (7)

Last Result -
Jets 1 (Ugarkovic 57') – Mariners 0 at Central Coast Stadium, A-League, Round 21, 28/2/2016.

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 11 Round 19

Newcastle JetsCentral Coast Mariners
Mark BirighittiPaul Izzo
Jason HoffmanMichael Neill
Daniel MullenHarry Ascroft
Nigel BoogaardTomislav Uskok
Nick CowburnJoshua Rose
Mateo PoljakNick Montgomery
Steven UgarkovicLiam Rose
Morten NordstrandLuis Garcia
Enver AlivodicMitch Austin
Milos TrifunovicJosh Bingham
Leonardo Vitor SantiagoTrent Buhagiar



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Bridge 6', Carle 18', Rodriguez 79') - Mariners 1 (Mori 40') Round 12, Season 2006/07 at Energy Australia Stadium, 12/11/2006.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 - (Coveny 85') - Mariners 4 (Gumprecht 4', Brown 34', Hutchinson 72', 83'), Round 16, Season 2005/06 at Express Advocate Stadium, 31/12/2005.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (6)
Mariners - Matt Simon (6)



2015/16 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubstitute AppearancesSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed - Second BookableStraight Red
1Mark Birighitti252501223900200
2Daniel Mullen171700144700220
3Jason Hoffman242401215700900
4Nigel Boogaard212101179600222
5Ben Kantarovski211562142120610
6Cameron Watson17125898400400
7Enver Alivodic252506214613100
8Mateo Poljak252503220511600
9Milos Trifunovic222207186290400
10Leonardo Vitor Santiago1917211139113000
11Labinot Haliti21112400000
13Ki-Je Lee880072001100
14Mitch Cooper1248433810000
16Steven Ugarkovic1091083510100
17Radovan Pavicevic60608700200
19Morten Nordstrand1073269022100
20Ben Kennedy211010100000
22Lachlan Jackson181352122800100
23David Carney151503133434600
24Nick Cowburn211382129200400
25Brandon Lundy10107500000
27Braedyn Crowley817020200000
28Ryan Kitto17116891321100



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 2 matches
Scott Miller - 1 win, Tony Walmsley - 0 wins, 1 draw

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Scott Miller - 2 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 0 losses = 50% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (6 wins, 6 drawn and 5 losses = 35% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 2 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (1 win, 2 drawn, 3 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 losses = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans -1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)

Central Coast Mariners Coach Record – Tony Walmsley 0% win ratio (0 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss)



KEY FACTS:

General

The Jets are undefeated in the last 4 F3 derbies, winning 1 and drawing 3.
The Jets and their opposition on the day have both received penalties in the last two rounds.
The match is between the team with the fewest goals scored (Jets) against the team who have conceded the most (Mariners).
Neither team has scored a first half goal in the last 5 meetings.
The Jets have only won once in April while winning only once on a Saturday this season.



Jason Hoffman

Has played in both victories over the Mariners on the Central Coast
This will be Hoffman's 10th F3 Derby.
He has lost only one derby in which he has been involved.
He is one of 4 Jets to have played over 2000 minutes this season.



Players

Nigel Boogaard has, in one season, equaled the most red cards by a Jets player. With 4 red cards, he joins Joel Griffiths on top.
Seven red cards is highest number collected during a single season for the Jets.
In the last 2 seasons, the Jets have scored 15 goals on a Saturday. 12 have been scored by visa players and one an own goal.



Newcastle Jets

Leonardo became the 64th player to score for the Jets.
The Jets have received 4 red cards in the last 5 matches.
Steven Ugarkovic scored his first, and only goal so far, in the last match against the Mariners.
Newcastle have never scored a goal against the Mariners in the 15 minutes leading up to half time.
Newcastle have scored the first goal in 3 of the last 4 away matches.

[plague]

Stinking povo broke ass Gypos.

**** em

[turbojetfireV8]

Got me ticket, ready to throw obscene abuse, just show me a gyppo... :sparring::sparring::sparring::sparring:

[Premy]

Got me ticket, ready to throw obscene abuse, just show me a gyppo... :sparring::sparring::sparring::sparring:
Careful of the E-Group slapper.

[turbojetfireV8]

Careful of the E-Group slapper.

F*ck that, gyppos are fair game...

[Premy]

F*ck that, gyppos are fair game...
She'll have you, clipboard and all.

[turbojetfireV8]

clipboard, she checking for quality control? obviously lost on a gyppos fan... :popcorn:

[Jetmaster]

Easiest way to get a fat slapper to move on?

Sing "Fat Bottomed Girls".

[plague]

clipboard, she checking for quality control?

A clipboard is a Gosford iPad.

[Jeterpool]

We need to assert dominance early and do as other teams have in the last few weeks and score early. We didn't last time and it allowed the Mariners to gain in confidence and continue to press us, particularly in the last 10 minutes.

The Mariners will likely sit back and allow us to dictate play as they did the Wanderers last week.

They will have some key players back who were missing last time. I still expect us to win, but it's up to us to not make it difficult on ourselves.

[BodyNovo]

keen

[MFKS]

So we allowed to take in a thousand or so wooden spoons to wave at Hutcho or are they gonna be prohibited???

Serious question

[lquiquer]

We all bring a spoon and throw it on the pitch at the end of the game I'd say....

[belchardo]

obvious retort from the mariners would be "of course they've brought spoons - they've got so many of them to share" (or is that giving them too much credit in the intelligence department?)

[boz-monaut]

we will loose

[MFKS]

We all bring a spoon and throw it on the pitch at the end of the game I'd say....

That is a nice touch.

I reckon Full-time and we leave a pile of them on the pitch

[Jeterpool]

Just consider the fan code of conduct. Spoons could be considered as a projectile if thrown onto the pitch.

[MFKS]

Just consider the fan code of conduct. Spoons could be considered as a projectile if thrown onto the pitch.

If we have a mass pitch invasion at FT and dump them in the Centre circle are the FFA gonna fine the owners of the club for not controlling their fans ???

I thought not

[Hunter403]

Just a huge banner with a spoon and appropriate commentary along the lines of goals conceded, points etc.

[lquiquer]

If we have a mass pitch invasion at FT and dump them in the Centre circle are the FFA gonna fine the owners of the club for not controlling their fans ???

I thought not

They might deduct points, but surely not 18 points ..... :roflz:

[GazFish35]

they're having asn old boys game before hand - might be worth getting in early relive the old days of hating on their old boys.

[Retro Jet]

they're having asn old boys game before hand - might be worth getting in early relive the old days of hating on their old boys.

Really? Wonder if Gumpy will play? Fake Macquarie one day, playing with sCCuM mates the next lol

[Hunter403]

Called a bloke who supports the scum this afternoon. Told him I was from the Novacastrian Imports and wanted to confirm the delivery address for the 1000 wooden spoons he ordered. Had him going for about 5 minutes before he twigged.

Now that is sport!

[MFKS]

Called a bloke who supports the scum this afternoon. Told him I was from the Novacastrian Imports and wanted to confirm the delivery address for the 1000 wooden spoons he ordered. Had him going for about 5 minutes before he twigged.

Now that is sport!

50 would have sufficed

Do they have 1000 fans??

[Jetmaster]

they're having asn old boys game before hand - might be worth getting in early relive the old days of hating on their old boys.

Only worth it if Griff and Hutcho are playing.

[stopper2]

Really? Wonder if Gumpy will play? Fake Macquarie one day, playing with sCCuM mates the next lol

Obviously you aren't aware old Gumpy is captain/coach at Kahibah, has been since last year!

[StannyCFCJET]

Listening to the world game podcast and they talk about how the Derby is a dead rubber and that there wont be any passion or desire to win the games from each team let alone the players. Never before have i wanted to ring up people from a podcast and tell them to shut the **** up :soapbox::soapbox:

[Jeterpool]

Listening to the world game podcast and they talk about how the Derby is a dead rubber and that there wont be any passion or desire to win the games from each team let alone the players. Never before have i wanted to ring up people from a podcast and tell them to shut the **** up :soapbox::soapbox:

That's really interesting. It's clear how out-of-touch they really are with teams outside of the big cities. They underestimate what a derby means to players and the fans.

[StannyCFCJET]

That's really interesting. It's clear how out-of-touch they really are with teams outside of the big cities. They underestimate what a derby means to players and the fans.

yep and they reckon if a better coach is available we should get rid of miller im sick of commentators disrespecting our club and fans cause were not as big as sydney or melbourne

[Wilso8948]

Not that they will but if Fox and the Jets had a bit of mongrel about them they would play it up a little. Show old footage of nasty tackles and Grand finals. Build the hype a bit. Show the new fans some history so that there is some emotional attachment. It shits me Jets PR staff can't get that right. Fully understand the family atmosphere and that's where the money is but won't hurt to engage the parent too.

[Jeterpool]

Not that they will but if Fox and the Jets had a bit of mongrel about them they would play it up a little. Show old footage of nasty tackles and Grand finals. Build the hype a bit. Show the new fans some history so that there is some emotional attachment. It shits me Jets PR staff can't get that right. Fully understand the family atmosphere and that's where the money is but won't hurt to engage the parent too.

I'm listening to the Foxtel podcast now, and Simon Hill mentioned there isn't any hype about the league. He was referring to hyping some of the goals that have been scored this year, but it's symptomatic of the league promotion as a whole.

[StannyCFCJET]

I'm listening to the Foxtel podcast now, and Simon Hill mentioned there isn't any hype about the league. He was referring to hyping some of the goals that have been scored this year, but it's symptomatic of the league promotion as a whole.

i think alot of the money that wouldve been used to promote the league is being spent on the jets

[BodyNovo]

don't listen to the foxsports or world game podcasts if you want to hear them discuss the jets, mariners, or the phoenix and to a little extent perth

We don't rate so its not worth talking about us.

I wouldn't say the derby is dead but it definitely has lost its attraction to the fair-weather fan with both teams near or on the bottom off the ladder.

If we were both coming 1st & 2nd the media would be saying that its back alive.

[StannyCFCJET]

don't listen to the foxsports or world game podcasts if you want to hear them discuss the jets, mariners, or the phoenix and to a little extent perth

We don't rate so its not worth talking about us.

I wouldn't say the derby is dead but it definitely has lost its attraction to the fair-weather fan with both teams near or on the bottom off the ladder.

If we were both coming 1st & 2nd the media would be saying that its back alive.
They talk about it more but they'd still find away to talk about sydney and melbourne being better blah blah

[Jetmaster]

Just need to stop whining and so something about it. Agree that the media bias to Syd/Mel is tedious but we can only change it by getting results.

Perth fans have long complained that they have had no coverage from the east - look at them now.

An Adelaide v Perth GF would please me no end.

[belchardo]

They talk about it more but they'd still find away to talk about sydney and melbourne being better blah blah

nah, probably more "well Newcastle and mariners continue to defy the critics and are sitting atop the league. but tonight, we examine in depth why Sydney FC and Melbourne Victory are performing so badly..."

[plague]

The derby died when Rooney and Vigs left. No one cares, especially not the players or club.

Sydney and Melbourne get full houses for theirs that's why they get talked about.

You wanna hear Jets hot takes? Talk into your phone then play it back later on. Music to your ears.

Hashtagthederbysucks

[lquiquer]

It's all relative.....no one in England outside Newcastle and Sunderland will talk about the derby next year when they meet in the championship

[Premy]

Not that they will but if Fox and the Jets had a bit of mongrel about them they would play it up a little. Show old footage of nasty tackles and Grand finals. Build the hype a bit. Show the new fans some history so that there is some emotional attachment. It shits me Jets PR staff can't get that right. Fully understand the family atmosphere and that's where the money is but won't hurt to engage the parent too.Free Buses.
Hoff is a good omen in the F3 Derby.
Ugarkovic is 1 from 1 in F3 can he do it again.
Since the first F3, where are they now.
What winning the last F3 ment to us, lets do it again.

All of those have been released by Jets PR this week, admittedly they can do better but expecting more on the shoe string budget the back office is running on?

[BodyNovo]

Free Buses.
Hoff is a good omen in the F3 Derby.
Ugarkovic is 1 from 1 in F3 can he do it again.
Since the first F3, where are they now.
What winning the last F3 ment to us, lets do it again.

All of those have been released by Jets PR this week, admittedly they can do better but expecting more on the shoe string budget the back office is running on?

agree with all this. the jerks and sponsors (inspirations paint) have done more then enough with there resources. We have 1 bloke who runs the media compared too probably 10 blokes who do western Sydney/victory etc.

the other promoter Fox I think will (and rightly so) be promoting the premiership and finals potential games as after this week that is the product they need to promote.

At the end off the day its 8th v 10th and the promotion will reflect that.

[outsider]

Jarred Gillett

[Beeen]

Why everyone posting they're bringing wooden spoons? That's one good way to get them in...

[MFKS]

Game day ****s.

Fire the **** Up


Hate the Coast

Hate Hutcho

Hate their Palm trees

Hate their cannon

**** them all

[Tommyjet]

Game day ****s.

Fire the **** Up


Hate the Coast

Hate Hutcho

Hate their Palm trees

Hate their cannon

**** them all

Don't forget the sauce bottles

[MFKS]

Don't forget the sauce bottles

Love the sauce bottles.

Makes them look even lamer

[Thomas477]

Izzo!!! Best keeper in the league.

[belchardo]

Just wanted to get beers started early.

[Thomas477]

Love Enver

[belchardo]

Nice pass from leo and kitto. Glad enver managed not to balls it up.

[hawk]

Kitto U legend

[weston]

Ffs.

I'm in Mackay getting my arse handed to me in 2 games (third to come) and the Jets are in Gosford having a party.

FFS

EDIT: and I just read we knocked one of the gypo's out. FMD

[belchardo]

Ffs.

I'm in Mackay getting my arse handed to me in 2 games (third to come) and the Jets are in Gosford having a party.

FFS

EDIT: and I just read we knocked one of the gypo's put. FMD

Be like izzo and fake an injury to get off the park.

[MFKS]

Love Enver

Call a spade a spade he should have 3-4 by now

Plus absolute classic shit refereeing

What was the Gypo gial disallowed for??

We ****ed it up and he disallowed it 5 5 5

[belchardo]

Mateo!!!!!!!

[rhysd]

Alivodic, nil finishing ability

[Nou Camp]

Alivodic, nil finishing ability
Nil is being generous

[boz-monaut]

https://camo.githubusercontent.com/5be31c13667d8fd3a94524833fe09b5aa6e2cb60/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f59475968392e 676966

[halo se7en]

Call a spade a spade he should have 3-4 by now

Plus absolute classic shit refereeing

What was the Gypo gial disallowed for??

We ****ed it up and he disallowed it 5 5 5

Soft push from O'Donovan on Mullen. Mullen wasn't getting to the ball but O'Donovan was stupid enough to put him arm out and touch him when he didn't need to. PK was absolute rubbish, hand was nowhere near the ball.

Who gave the ball away before their second goal? They should be shot.

[hawk]

leo is too old for this. nobby puts one on a plate and he cbf.

[belchardo]

Tonight was enough for me - say goodbye enver and leo

[MFKS]

Soft push from O'Donovan on Mullen. Mullen wasn't getting to the ball but O'Donovan was stupid enough to put him arm out and touch him when he didn't need to. PK was absolute rubbish, hand was nowhere near the ball.

Who gave the ball away before their second goal? They should be shot.
To me the penalty was to me just a level up for the refs **** up on HT


Good we scored again straight away to take away any momentum the Gypos could get

Kitto was great

Nobby a ****ing masterclass with his vision and running off the ball

Alivodic had a blinder in every aspect of the game except ****ing shooting.

He could have had 6 FFS

[plague]

For anyone at the game did you see whether Leo celebrated any of the goals with teammates tonight?
Didn't look like it on the telly and that's a shame because he was great tonight.

[plague]

Also, how good is it that everyone is calling for the head of a bloke with a stat line that every single player in the league would be jealous of.


****ing Jets fans man, y'all are crazy.

[plague]

Speaking of stats. Have we ever gone undead wanted against the Gypos in a season? And is 7pts most ever?

GIVE MILLER A LIFE CONTRACT!!!!!!!

[halo se7en]

Speaking of stats. Have we ever gone undead wanted against the Gypos in a season? And is 7pts most ever?

GIVE MILLER A LIFE CONTRACT!!!!!!!

20 seconds away from a clean sweep.

[Jeterpool]

Speaking of stats. Have we ever gone undead wanted against the Gypos in a season? And is 7pts most ever?

GIVE MILLER A LIFE CONTRACT!!!!!!!

Twice before.

Season 2 and season 3 in regular seasons

[plague]

Twice before.

Season 2 and season 3 in regular seasons

Really?
Oh **** that then MILLER MUST BE FIRED!!!!!

[Jetmaster]

If Kitto and Enver were competing for a position next season then Kitto has got it. 3pts on Fox too.

Leo has to go...walked around half the time, couldn't be assed in defence, never looked happy and walked away from his teammates whilst they celebrated with the fans. He just looked like he wished he were somewhere else.

[turbojetfireV8]

Twice before.

Season 2 and season 3 in regular seasons

Results please so we can compare :thumbsup:

[turbojetfireV8]

Gotta agree about Leo, tonight it took him about 60min to get into the game, before that he was a passenger, no passion, no contempt for gyppos, totally unacceptable behaviour. But based on contempt and passion, Enver actually had a blinder, Mullsy and the backline were doing Newy proud, and Kitto, Steve and Nobby were showing the right amount of mongrel too. Poljak kept giving the ball over and Leo ffs caused their second goal - just not Newy enough boys...

[plague]

Leo has to go...walked around half the time, couldn't be assed in defence,

You are 100% correct on the celebrating thing (that irks me).

But

Give me 90mins of what he did tonight going forward over some no talent shit with 'good engines' any ****ing day of the week.

This is the A-League, every player has a deficiency somewhere (aside from Griff). I thought Leo was great tonight in helping us win. Bloke was absolutely gassed but his extra effort made Poljaks goal.

Shame he seems unhappy here. The front 4 tonight were excellent, if we keep at least 3 next year that's great but we may lose the best one of the lot.

[plague]

Also shows how much that gypo retread Boogaard has screwed our season.
Bloke is a disgrace and I've said it from day one.

Get rid of him, keep Kanta at CB and build around it.
Ugabooger man and Poljak are a good combo. We've a solid core there, don't need any gypo double agents.



Also, that Cowburn chap has impressed me. Him, Kitto are the type of low wage player you need to balance your team.

Miller deserves a lot of credit for these improvements, now if he ****s off that Gypo we might get somewhere.

[The Camel]

To me the penalty was to me just a level up for the refs **** up on HT


Good we scored again straight away to take away any momentum the Gypos could get

Kitto was great

Nobby a ****ing masterclass with his vision and running off the ball

Alivodic had a blinder in every aspect of the game except ****ing shooting.

He could have had 6 FFS

The incident on half time was a ****ing lino screw up against us. ODonovan was offside and it wasn't called. Then that penalty decision was diabolical.

[Wilso8948]

Ffs alivodic dishes up shit all year. Has one ok game and all you ****s are calling for a 10 year contract. Bring back trifunovic and his wife.

[plague]

Ffs alivodic dishes up shit all year. Has one ok game and all you ****s are calling for a 10 year contract. Bring back trifunovic and his wife.

So you want Brennan there full time instead?
Not sure who you're out here pining for my man.

[MFKS]

Ffs alivodic dishes up shit all year. Has one ok game and all you ****s are calling for a 10 year contract. Bring back trifunovic and his wife.
Alivodic to his credit for into some great positions.

**** me he had some chances. Most players don't get the amount if chances he had in 10 games let alone one.

Credit to him for getting into those positions.

But **** me his finishing was diabolical

He should have had a shit load of goals and not one

As a result his performance goes from potentially Griff like to ****ing frustrating and Milos like

[Mark325]

Enver and Leo should get the boot, Enver can't finish and Leo doesn't wanna be here

Cowburn and Kitto have proven to be two young that proved their worth for us, should definitely invest in them both for next season.

Nobby is a class footballer, as is Uga. Both of those men at the start of the season and I think we could've scraped into the 6. Uga also seems to have made an impact on Poljak who's played his best football for us since he joined

[rhysd]

Poljak is the foil. The problem was that we had no one else but Watson to play in the middle of the park. Ugarkovic is the style of midfielder that works together with a Poljak style player quite well.

Enver got into great positions but for a visa spot player you really need to be burying them. Nordstrand would have nailed most of them (score literally should have been 9-2).

Leo should have had 1-2 himself but just doesn't work hard enough. That excellent cut across the box from Nords should have been rewarded with a goal.

We were fantastic going forward but just be mindful that the gypos were awful.

Miller and JP know what they're doing and hopefully we start to see some recruitment/re-signings (Birraz, nords, kitto, hoff, kanta)

[Jetmaster]

Now I know why the Gypo crowds are bumped up. $10 cheaper to buy a family ticket for four than two adult tix online! Bet many did similar.

[stopper2]

Alivodic to his credit for into some great positions.

**** me he had some chances. Most players don't get the amount if chances he had in 10 games let alone one.

Credit to him for getting into those positions.

But **** me his finishing was diabolical

He should have had a shit load of goals and not one

As a result his performance goes from potentially Griff like to ****ing frustrating and Milos like
Sums up most of his season really. At this level he has to put away at least 1 or 2 of those one on ones. A player in an attacking position, starting virtually every game and only has 2 tap-ins in his goal scoring ledger is not good enough. Sure he has provided a few assists and he has a good work ethic.
The key question is, if we as a club have aspirations to finish higher than bottom four every year, do we have an average player like Alivodic holding down a visa spot?

[MFKS]

Sums up most of his season really. At this level he has to put away at least 1 or 2 of those one on ones. A player in an attacking position, starting virtually every game and only has 2 tap-ins in his goal scoring ledger is not good enough. Sure he has provided a few assists and he has a good work ethic.
The key question is, if we as a club have aspirations to finish higher than bottom four every year, do we have an average player like Alivodic holding down a visa spot?


Easy question to answer No


If we are re signing him based on his efforts this season then Millertime needs committing.

He inherited Alivodic from Muppet so was stuck with him

He really should be backing himself to find someone better than Alivodic for the club

[The Dunster]

Three assists and he knocked out a Gypo in the Derby. Kitto is now my favourite player.

[sammydog]

Easy question to answer No


If we are re signing him based on his efforts this season then Millertime needs committing.

He inherited Alivodic from Muppet so was stuck with him

He really should be backing himself to find someone better than Alivodic for the club

He found Noordstrand and Ugarkovic so I'm sure he has no issues backing himself to find players. Hopefully they are just two of a lot more to come.

[plague]

Three assists and he knocked out a Gypo in the Derby. Kitto is now my favourite player.

Kitto, Rooney, Vigs and of course Griff are the Jets Mount Rushmore.

[turbojetfireV8]

can we get Enver naturalised so we can keep him as a squadie instead? think of him as our new Andrew Hoole (*a lot of effort for very little end product)

[OmeletteDuFromage]

can we get Enver naturalised so we can keep him as a squadie instead? think of him as our new Andrew Hoole (*a lot of effort for very little end product)

On that, surely Poljak is close to becoming an Aussie?

[stopper2]

can we get Enver naturalised so we can keep him as a squadie instead? think of him as our new Andrew Hoole (*a lot of effort for very little end product)
What are we prepared to pay for just a "squaddie"? Players like Pav, Brennan and probably Cooper and Kitto are squaddies probably on anything from minimum wage to $70k.
Enver would surely be easily over $100k, who knows maybe up to $120-130k. Wouldn't make sense to be wasting cap space on a squaddie and paying him decent coin. Kanta is in a similar position too, although his versatility is a big plus but by the same token the second half of the season he has well and truly dropped out of the starting XI with the arrival of Ugarkovic. He is off contract and probably after a bit more money....but does he deserve it?

[hawk]

no

[belchardo]

What are we prepared to pay for just a "squaddie"? Players like Pav, Brennan and probably Cooper and Kitto are squaddies probably on anything from minimum wage to $70k.
Enver would surely be easily over $100k, who knows maybe up to $120-130k. Wouldn't make sense to be wasting cap space on a squaddie and paying him decent coin. Kanta is in a similar position too, although his versatility is a big plus but by the same token the second half of the season he has well and truly dropped out of the starting XI with the arrival of Ugarkovic. He is off contract and probably after a bit more money....but does he deserve it?

With or without full/partial use of all of the salary cap exemptions?

[halo se7en]

What are we prepared to pay for just a "squaddie"? Players like Pav, Brennan and probably Cooper and Kitto are squaddies probably on anything from minimum wage to $70k.
Enver would surely be easily over $100k, who knows maybe up to $120-130k. Wouldn't make sense to be wasting cap space on a squaddie and paying him decent coin. Kanta is in a similar position too, although his versatility is a big plus but by the same token the second half of the season he has well and truly dropped out of the starting XI with the arrival of Ugarkovic. He is off contract and probably after a bit more money....but does he deserve it?

Luckily for the club, Uga's arrival should have stopped Kanta from thinking he deserves more $. This was his year to kick on and while he's been decent, he hasn't done anything to warrant a pay rise. Can't see why any other club would offer him more just so he can be a squaddie somewhere else.

[Jetmaster]

I have it in good authority that Connor Pain is on under $50k...shows how much overs we pay for squaddies.

[plague]

Is Boogaard signed for next year? Or was it Mullen?

[turbojetfireV8]

Is Boogaard signed for next year? Or was it Mullen?

thought both are, Mullsy was an extension and Boogs a two or three year deal??

[halo se7en]

Is Boogaard signed for next year? Or was it Mullen?

Haven't heard Boogaard's name mentioned in the off-contract talks.

[turbojetfireV8]

What are we prepared to pay for just a "squaddie"? Players like Pav, Brennan and probably Cooper and Kitto are squaddies probably on anything from minimum wage to $70k.
Enver would surely be easily over $100k, who knows maybe up to $120-130k. Wouldn't make sense to be wasting cap space on a squaddie and paying him decent coin. Kanta is in a similar position too, although his versatility is a big plus but by the same token the second half of the season he has well and truly dropped out of the starting XI with the arrival of Ugarkovic. He is off contract and probably after a bit more money....but does he deserve it?

if he wants to stay here maybe we put the squeeze on for him to accept a pay cut (like I said, we won't ever miss Hoole again if we just re-sign Enver...)

[belchardo]

I have it in good authority that Connor Pain is on under $50k...shows how much overs we pay for squaddies.

Isn't the minimum more than $50k?

[borat]

I have it in good authority that Connor Pain is on under $50k...shows how much overs we pay for squaddies.
Pretty sure min wage is 55k

[belchardo]

Pretty sure min wage is 55k

Maybe pain is employed by one of the dodgy labour hire companies. I mean tape, massage oil, accommodation, flights, laundry all cost money. :rof:

Seriously though, does that include super or is it on top? If it's included it would bring it the pre-tax pay close to $48k.

[Jeterpool]

Is Boogaard signed for next year? Or was it Mullen?

Mullen is in next year. Boogs the next 2

[Wilso8948]

So you want Brennan there full time instead?
Not sure who you're out here pining for my man.

where did I mention Brennan? The only thing I've ever said about Brennan is that I don't get why everyone bangs on wanting him in the side?
Alivodic is woeful. Say thanks and catch ya later. Time to move on

[plague]

where did I mention Brennan? The only thing I've ever said about Brennan is that I don't get why everyone bangs on wanting him in the side?
Alivodic is woeful. Say thanks and catch ya later. Time to move on

Because blokes on here want Enver gone but at this stage last year were like 'he's good keep him on'. Now at the moment Brennan is the only option.
What you're hoping for is that the Jets are gonna def get someone better than Enver yet if history guides us we'll end up with Donny de Groot or Jesper Haakenson v.2.

You also need to realise where we are with Nobby (yeah he's great keep him on etc ect etc) is exactly the same point we were with Enver at this stage last year. I fully expect the Foz to turn on Nobby by the end of next season.

In conclusion, be careful what you wish for, as the grass isn't always greener*




* credit: C.Constantine

[Jeterpool]

You also need to realise where we are with Nobby (yeah he's great keep him on etc ect etc) is exactly the same point we were with Enver at this stage last year. I fully expect the Foz to turn on Nobby by the end of next season.


That's my line of thought at the moment too, and why we really need to think hard about Nordstrand.

If we keep him, is the type of center forward we want? Or do we want a hungrier style like Berisha/Maclaren/Fornaroli? If he's not a striker, is he a wide player? Does he play behind the striker? I don't think a visa spot as an impact sub is the best use of that position either.
It will all come out soon enough.

[plague]

That's my line of thought at the moment too, and why we really need to think hard about Nordstrand.

If we keep him, is the type of center forward we want? Or do we want a hungrier style like Berisha/Maclaren/Fornaroli? If he's not a striker, is he a wide player? Does he play behind the striker? I don't think a visa spot as an impact sub is the best use of that position either.
It will all come out soon enough.

I'd keep them both but they need to make sure they get Leo's replacement right. He's been a big factor to Enver and Nobbys good late season form.

[Wilso8948]

Because blokes on here want Enver gone but at this stage last year were like 'he's good keep him on'. Now at the moment Brennan is the only option.
What you're hoping for is that the Jets are gonna def get someone better than Enver yet if history guides us we'll end up with Donny de Groot or Jesper Haakenson v.2.

You also need to realise where we are with Nobby (yeah he's great keep him on etc ect etc) is exactly the same point we were with Enver at this stage last year. I fully expect the Foz to turn on Nobby by the end of next season.

In conclusion, be careful what you wish for, as the grass isn't always greener*




* credit: C.Constantine

You can stop telling me what I want now.. I said I don't want Enver. Last year I said I didn't want Enver. All I can remember is him scoring a relatively easy chip on an advancing keeper. Then when he resigned everyone banging on like it was a massive coup for the club. I don't care who they sign. I just don't want them to resign him. Plus we let go Trifunovic who was the fastest player in the league and he could have played wide left with his wife playing wide right.

[BodyNovo]

Nobby is clinical in front of goal whereas Enver isn't. Enver could have been our top goal scorer this year.

Nobby also has more versatility being able to lead the line and play out wide.

Credit to Enver where it is due. the bloke continuously gets himself in amazing positions and that's a good quality to have but without the end product its not much help.

Nobby is the only foreigner to stay along with poljak imo.

Kitto won himself a contract on Saturday night and credit to him



Also congratulations to the savagery that was the 100 odd spoons hitting the field.

some scenes.

[plague]

You can stop telling me what I want now.


I don't care who they sign. I just don't want them to resign him.

Man you guys are angry.

I'm not telling you anything you aren't already saying. If you do or don't want Enver that's cool.

What I'm saying is that we probably could do better, but I'm also saying we've done worse.
If you wanna take that gamble, then great, roll those dice, and good luck.

[MFKS]

That's my line of thought at the moment too, and why we really need to think hard about Nordstrand.

If we keep him, is the type of center forward we want? Or do we want a hungrier style like Berisha/Maclaren/Fornaroli? If he's not a striker, is he a wide player? Does he play behind the striker? I don't think a visa spot as an impact sub is the best use of that position either.
It will all come out soon enough.


Visa spot for Super Sub???


Tell that to Henrique while he faps off about all those great moments he has scoring in multiple GFs and what not.

[Wilso8948]

What you're hoping for is that the Jets are gonna def get someone better than Enver yet if history guides us we'll end up with Donny de Groot or Jesper Haakenson v.2.

Not angry, but pretty sure this is telling me what I'm hoping for. Which is incorrect.

[Wilso8948]

What I'm saying is that we probably could do better, but I'm also saying we've done worse.
If you wanna take that gamble, then great, roll those dice, and good luck.

This I agree with. Hence why I'm partly serious when I say we should have kept Trif. Also with Leo provided he wanted to stay. These guys have performed above average when it comes to imports. I'm a realist. I want the next Bruno as much as anyone else. But if we get imports that are the best players in the team then I'll be happy

[turbojetfireV8]

Plus we let go Trifunovic who was the fastest player in the league and he could have played wide left with his wife playing wide right.

Perhaps under the new owner the coach's statement of duties should include sleeping with the players' wives so he can assess which will benefit team performance more in that case...

I reckon Nobby's experience is one reason alone to keep him, he seems the kind of player who can help develop the younger ones around him, that to me appears to have been missing before his joining the team, Trif and Carney weren't role models (one because of the language barrier, the other because of personality issues ;) ), and if we can keep Nobby under the cap (preferably Perf's cap because it's larger than most) we can still sign a marquee.

[hawk]

nobby>>>>>>>>>>>>> enver, trif and all that