Expectation for Season 2016-17

[MFKS]

Now that Millertime has had one season to understand the HAL competition, has chopped the Deadwood he nor want yesterday and is in position to start to formulate his own side next season and not just go the parking the bus option like he did to start the season

What exactly are your expectations for where he is to have us on the ladder.

As far as I am concerned nothing less than Top 4 next season.

Anything less is a ****ing failure in my eyes


No sneaking into the top 6 as acceptable shit.
It is time to actually deliver results and cut the excuses out.

[plague]

I predict that we will be debating who our number one keeper is regardless of who has been signed.

It's a better tradition than the Masters IMHO.

[Tommyjet]

2 marquees, full cap and exemptions used = top 4 minimum.

[plague]

Legit though we'll finish between 6-8 again and it will be because our new players 'wouldn't have had time to gel'.

[redwah]

More stupid threads started when we don't know if/when/who new owners are involved, how much, if any, extra funds available to the manager (whoever that may be) has to spend or not on exciting youth/foreign spot fillers/ returning socceroos/ promoted youth league players to fill as much as half the squad when we have never spent third party money thus putting us behind every other club besides the gypos in what we can offer said players all signed by the CEO (oh yeah we don't have one of those either).....

I think there is a LOT of water under the bridge before we can have any expectations other than more of the same....nothing in our history leads me to think otherwise until there are some major changes to the ownership, structure, running and funding of the club.

[stopper2]

Depends if we get new ownership. Status quo remains under FFA, realistically can't see us finishing above teams who utilize Marquees and the full cap etc., maybe squeeze into 6th if we can make Hunter stadium a fortress (ha ha) and win about 7-8 games at least at home.
We get the ownership sorted and have an owner who is 100% committed and who will invest in making the squad as strong as possible, top four should be absolute minimum.

[The Dunster]

I don't see the Jets doing any better next season. We have released a lot of players and you really need to wonder who the replacements will be and will they be any better ?

[MFKS]

I thinking some of you are being unrealistic


If a Neville side no one really rates can win the EPL whilst competing against sides with 5-10 x the budget then as far as I am concerned this coach of ours should have no problem getting us into the top 40% of the League

It ain't that ****ing hard to achieve making the top 4

[redwah]

I thinking some of you are being unrealistic


If a Neville side no one really rates can win the EPL whilst competing against sides with 5-10 x the budget then as far as I am concerned this coach of ours should have no problem getting us into the top 40% of the League

It ain't that ****ing hard to achieve making the top 4

If you truly believe that then you are more delusional than I thought. If Leicester win the epl it will be an outlier like it was when Blackburn won it...that's why there has been only 5 teams win it in its near thirty years....besides if it was as easy to make the top 4 then the jets must be ****ing horrible because we haven't cracked the top 6 in years.

[turbojetfireV8]

gotta agree we need financial stability first and foremost before we go dreaming of another toilet seat - too many seasons of turmoil, failure to bring youth players up to standard, makes it hard even if we do get a cashed up owner as we have to bring in half a squad and get them playing as a unit - all over again...

[furns]

You are dreaming if you think we can hit top 4 inside of 12 months of a new owner and a squad clearout.
I would be aiming for 5 or 6th place finish, and building the club for a run at top 4 inside of three seasons. Remember we are starting from behind the 8-ball here, with zero investment in admin/coaching/playing roster. The only two clubs in a worse position than us is that gypo club who spent as little as possible on NPL talent (but who reckon they can now spend on decent talent for next season - lets wait and see), and a club who didnt even know if they would exist beyond 1st July until recently.

There are THREE major factors that have to be finalised in the next few months for this club to improve next season: an owner who will spend money across front office/coaching staff/playing roster, a CEO who will lead this club effectively (eg like Filiopoulos for Glory has), and keep or sack Miller.

Lets be realistic with our expectations ffs, its going to take time to get everything back on an even keel after years of upheaval.

[halo se7en]

I'd be more than happy with getting into the 6 next season. It's better than anything we've had in the past 5(?) seasons.

To 'expect' to make the 4 at this point is utterly ridiculous. It's the nature of sport that nothing is guaranteed. There were so many results in the A-league this year that were mere minutes, or dodgy referee decisions, away from resulting in a different top 6. Look at the fortunes of Adelaide & Perth. If they copped one or two more losses, they may never have recovered. If Keogh doesn't return in January, Perth aren't playing in Melbourne today. There are so many variables that can impact whether a team wins the Premiers plate, or slips down to 5th.

All we've done is release a handful of players and our ownership is up in the air.

Worst case scenario is that we have the same (lack of) resources as last year. If that's the case, Miller has shown me more than enough that he can get the best out of ordinary cattle.

[MFKS]

If you truly believe that then you are more delusional than I thought. If Leicester win the epl it will be an outlier like it was when Blackburn won it...that's why there has been only 5 teams win it in its near thirty years....besides if it was as easy to make the top 4 then the jets must be ****ing horrible because we haven't cracked the top 6 in years.

Buddy if you not understand why Blackburn won the EPL in 94&95 then don't bring that up as a reference.
The reason they won it is they spent more money than everyone else under Jack Walker.

They were not an outsider to win it

They were one of the favourites
They just provided the template clubs with little success but big money like Man City and Chelsea have followed

[rhysd]

Every other team has spent more than us for seasons. We keep within those parameters positionally on the ladder.

IF we get a new owner then we can expect greater things. This has to happen sooner rather than later obviously.

WSW were able to not once but twice successfully create a winning team (one from scratch and the other on a rebuild) with financial availability. So I don't think top 4 is out of those realms of possibility IF we get the owners..soon.

[MFKS]

You are dreaming if you think we can hit top 4 inside of 12 months of a new owner and a squad clearout.
I would be aiming for 5 or 6th place finish, and building the club for a run at top 4 inside of three seasons. Remember we are starting from behind the 8-ball here, with zero investment in admin/coaching/playing roster. The only two clubs in a worse position than us is that gypo club who spent as little as possible on NPL talent (but who reckon they can now spend on decent talent for next season - lets wait and see), and a club who didnt even know if they would exist beyond 1st July until recently.

There are THREE major factors that have to be finalised in the next few months for this club to improve next season: an owner who will spend money across front office/coaching staff/playing roster, a CEO who will lead this club effectively (eg like Filiopoulos for Glory has), and keep or sack Miller.

Lets be realistic with our expectations ffs, its going to take time to get everything back on an even keel after years of upheaval.

Realistic??

To expect us to finish in the top 4 is conservative.

If Lester can win the EPL when 12 months ago they were staring down the barrel of relegation and started this season as a big contender for the drop then there is no reason we can't make the semis and host a semi final

That is not being ambitious that is actually showing ambition that is achievable

[redwah]

Buddy if you not understand why Blackburn won the EPL in 94&95 then don't bring that up as a reference.
The reason they won it is they spent more money than everyone else under Jack Walker.

They were not an outsider to win it

They were one of the favourites
They just provided the template clubs with little success but big money like Man City and Chelsea have followed

And BUDDY if you could read instead of firing off at anyone who disagrees with you you might have seen i said OUTLIER NOT OUTSIDER. the other 4 teams to win the epl have been 4 of the biggest spenders over the life of the premier league...where are blackburn now?

I, like most on here, and probably anywhere to be honest, know the jets need a lot of work to make up the difference to be a top 4 team, starting with ownership, leadership, strenghtening the staff and playing rosters....not just a new season and your say so.

[boz-monaut]

I expect the Jets will not live up to my expectations

[plague]

As usual the Member is the only one on here looking at the big picture.

If blokes like him weren't around to dream big we'd never have invented water, wheels and online porn.

I'm with the Member on this one, glory or death.

[StannyCFCJET]

After the dismal seasons my beloved Jets and Chelsea have had all i want is a team who every week puts in 100% into attack and defense anything else is a bonus (****ing sick of professional players doing **** all for 90 minutes and getting payed, Chelsea gave done this pretty much every week and the Jets did this for at least 1 quarter of this season)

[furns]

As usual the Member is the only one on here looking at the big picture.

If blokes like him weren't around to dream big we'd never have invented water, wheels and online porn.

I'm with the Member on this one, glory or death.
lol plague - "big picture" is medium to long term goal setting. Not short termism, which is what he is saying.
I expect us to be aiming for trophies in coming seasons also (as everyone else does), however to expect an almighty turnaround in less than 12 months with so many other clubs ahead of us in organisation and financial outlay is just being fanciful.
Goals have to be realistic and attainable, expecting shit to become gold overnight just sets you up for disappointment. Even the Mythbusters spent hours upon hours working before proving you can actually polish a turd

http://www.wearethepractitioners.com/images/default-source/the-practitioner/polished.jpg

[plague]

lol plague - "big picture" is medium to long term goal setting. Not short termism, which is what he is saying.
I expect us to be aiming for trophies in coming seasons also (as everyone else does), however to expect an almighty turnaround in less than 12 months with so many other clubs ahead of us in organisation and financial outlay is just being fanciful.
Goals have to be realistic and attainable, expecting shit to become gold overnight just sets you up for disappointment. Even the Mythbusters spent hours upon hours working before proving you can actually polish a turd

http://www.wearethepractitioners.com/images/default-source/the-practitioner/polished.jpg

The Member is the Elon Musk of the Foz.

Get onboard or get out of his way. He will take us to the promised land.

Y'all quickly forget the big fella was soley responsible for getting rid of Stubbins.

[Frodo]

Leicester spent 50 Million in transfer fees between their almost relegation and potential title. http://www.transfermarkt.com/leicester-city/transfers/verein/1003

They spent 25 million the year before.

Member, you need to get this delusional view you have of Leicester out of your head and look at the big picture.

The reason they are doing so well is because they have an owner who has come in and rebuilt the club from top to bottom in order to compete at the highest level. He gives away beer every other week to the supporters and treats his players like they are family, the enjoyment level at that club has been improving ever year since he arrived. They didn't fluke it by just saying it should be so, they had an owner come in and improve the entire club which exactly what every honest Jets supporter wants to happen next year. Finals football for 1 season doesn't appease me in the slightest, getting the basket case club sorted out so that we can build into a club that makes the last 4 of the ACL every year is a worthwhile dream to put forward, and there's no reason why we can't do that given all the salary concessions we could be using and what the league is beginning to offer good players.

[Frodo]

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That said, i really hope we get a Newcastle Jets Polo team next year.. As well as free beer and donuts on our new overlords birthday..

And top 4 is a pretty good aim. We should have made the 6 this year, we could be better than Victoree and Shitney is we could score another 10-15 goals, so we aren't too far off.

[Frodo]

I also just found out the guy who owns 30% of Arsenal football club Alisher Usmanov is worth another $Billion more than Roman Abramovich, Chelsea owner and BFF with Putin... The things you learn when not using the internet for it's actual use.

[plague]

Yeah but still Lester were 5000/1 to win the title so don't pretend like anyone thought otherwise.

Jets will be 50/1 at best so we are
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A much better chance.

[plague]

I also just found out the guy who owns 30% of Arsenal football club Alisher Usmanov is worth another $Billion more than Roman Abramovich, Chelsea owner and BFF with Putin... The things you learn when not using the internet for it's actual use.

and their main guy is Kronkie innit who cares not for winning or the fans or anything really other than money and he's very very very good at it.


Ask St Louis.

[GazFish35]

The only for sure is that we will lose to Perth in our first game of the Cup at Magic park.
And the local forum will implode with complaints about the game being played at magic park.

[MFKS]

Leicester spent 50 Million in transfer fees between their almost relegation and potential title. http://www.transfermarkt.com/leicester-city/transfers/verein/1003

They spent 25 million the year before.

Member, you need to get this delusional view you have of Leicester out of your head and look at the big picture.

The reason they are doing so well is because they have an owner who has come in and rebuilt the club from top to bottom in order to compete at the highest level. He gives away beer every other week to the supporters and treats his players like they are family, the enjoyment level at that club has been improving ever year since he arrived. They didn't fluke it by just saying it should be so, they had an owner come in and improve the entire club which exactly what every honest Jets supporter wants to happen next year. Finals football for 1 season doesn't appease me in the slightest, getting the basket case club sorted out so that we can build into a club that makes the last 4 of the ACL every year is a worthwhile dream to put forward, and there's no reason why we can't do that given all the salary concessions we could be using and what the league is beginning to offer good players.

So Leister spent 50million in transfer fees??
I done some research and found it closer to 25 million but let's just go with your 50million as it not bother my argument anyway

Newcastle United spent 80 million this season
How that working out for them??
Not so well is it

Maybe Lester's success is down to their players and coaches where as Newcastle's is down to their players and coaches as money seems to have no bearing


Not based in the money they spent.



Now elaborate why we can't achieve some success with competent players and coaching??

Why do we need money to make the top 4??

Never stopped the useless ****s down the F3 from doing it for several years on the trot

[MFKS]

Yeah but still Lester were 5000/1 to win the title so don't pretend like anyone thought otherwise.

Jets will be 50/1 at best so we are
Ummmm
Errrrrrrrr
Ummmm

A much better chance.

Hey I not talking about winning the thing. I talking about making the top 4

That a much more realistic target.
Our odss to make the top 4 won't be anywhere near 50-1. They won't be anywhere near Lester's odds of 5000-1 the odds for us making top4 will be well undr 10-1 and much closer to 5-1

[plague]

Hey I not talking about winning the thing. I talking about making the top 4

That a much more realistic target.
Our odss to make the top 4 won't be anywhere near 50-1. They won't be anywhere near Lester's odds of 5000-1 the odds for us making top4 will be well undr 10-1 and much closer to 5-1

Easy there Romeo.
We are on the same side here.
Anyone discounting the fact we can't get top 4 is a traitor and should get the next train to Gosford.

As a life long Lester fan I know what it's like.

[hawk]

Anyone discounting the fact we can't get top 4 is a traitor and should get the next train to Gosford.



And anyone who does think we can get into the top 4 is a traitor and should get themselves a bubbler. our job here is done

[ToddG NBUnited]

40+ points. Atleast 1 hattrick scored, 3 wins vs gypos.

[Jeterpool]

A run in the FFA Cup for me is a must.

[RAM]

Jarhead fmd

I'll be happy with finals football for ****en once

[Couscous]

Under our new owner, we will access the FFA's new marquee fund and hook a superstar -probably almost as good as Heskey, even.

Miller will have found his feet and be better able to wield that giant jaw to good effect. Our motivated players, led in example by the Danish bloke with the long name, will finish fifth. But a good fifth: not barely scraping in to the finals, but rather we'll have spent most of the season in the top four.

We'll sell Birraz. Kennedy's flaws will ultimately prove the difference between third and fifth.

[StannyCFCJET]

Under our new owner, we will access the FFA's new marquee fund and hook a superstar -probably almost as good as Heskey, even.

Miller will have found his feet and be better able to wield that giant jaw to good effect. Our motivated players, led in example by the Danish bloke with the long name, will finish fifth. But a good fifth: not barely scraping in to the finals, but rather we'll have spent most of the season in the top four.

We'll sell Birraz. Kennedy's flaws will ultimately prove the difference between third and fifth.

Bks only flaw in my eyes is his distribution and his talking with his defenders

[lquiquer]

A run in the FFA Cup for me is a must.

Perth at Magic Park again?... :facepalm:

[Jetmaster]

We'll sell Birraz. Kennedy's flaws will ultimately prove the difference between third and fifth.

Can't sell someone out of contract.

[Couscous]

We'll sell him for free.

[stopper2]

It's only a 10 team comp, I think if you can 1)get the right coach on board and 2)get a proper professional set-up which a good owner provides I really can't see why any team cannot aim for a top four finish.
Melbourne City (Heart) as an example finished last in 2013/14, the City group took over providing the necessary funds to invest in players, set-up and they already jumped to 5th last year and improved to fourth this season.
Adelaide with the "Spanish revolution" under Gombau and Amor have gone from 6th to 3rd and now 1st in 3 seasons.
We finished 8th with a squad which was roughly half Stubbins and half Millers. Miller has had a whole season to assess who he needs to keep and who is surplus to requirements. He started the purge a few weeks back with Trifunovic and has continued that with the axing of 6-7 players in the last few days.
Now if and I know this is a big IF, The Ledman group takes over in the next month or so and provides Miller with the funds to utilise the salary cap to maximum capacity plus 2 Marquees and just as importantly a fully professional set-up up with back-up staff to rival the other bigger clubs. Why would we need another 2 years of "rebuilding" just to be competing for a top four spot?

[PC14]

It's only a 10 team comp, I think if you can 1)get the right coach on board and 2)get a proper professional set-up which a good owner provides I really can't see why any team cannot aim for a top four finish.
Melbourne City (Heart) as an example finished last in 2013/14, the City group took over providing the necessary funds to invest in players, set-up and they already jumped to 5th last year and improved to fourth this season.
Adelaide with the "Spainish revolution" under Gombau and Amor have gone from 6th to 3rd and now 1st in 3 seasons.
We finished 8th with a squad which was roughly half Stubbins and half Millers. Miller has had a whole season to assess who he needs to keep and who is surplus to requirements. He started the purge a few weeks back with Trifunovic and has continued that with the axing of 6-7 players in the last few days.
Now if and I know this is a big IF, The Ledman group takes over in the next month or so and provides Miller with the funds to utilise the salary cap to maximum capacity plus 2 Marquees and just as importantly a fully professional set-up up with back-up staff to rival the other bigger clubs. Why would we need another 2 years of "rebuilding" just to be competing for a top four spot?

This.

The only fault I find is your spelling of "Spainish"

[MFKS]

It's only a 10 team comp, I think if you can 1)get the right coach on board and 2)get a proper professional set-up which a good owner provides I really can't see why any team cannot aim for a top four finish.
Melbourne City (Heart) as an example finished last in 2013/14, the City group took over providing the necessary funds to invest in players, set-up and they already jumped to 5th last year and improved to fourth this season.
Adelaide with the "Spanish revolution" under Gombau and Amor have gone from 6th to 3rd and now 1st in 3 seasons.
We finished 8th with a squad which was roughly half Stubbins and half Millers. Miller has had a whole season to assess who he needs to keep and who is surplus to requirements. He started the purge a few weeks back with Trifunovic and has continued that with the axing of 6-7 players in the last few days.
Now if and I know this is a big IF, The Ledman group takes over in the next month or so and provides Miller with the funds to utilise the salary cap to maximum capacity plus 2 Marquees and just as importantly a fully professional set-up up with back-up staff to rival the other bigger clubs. Why would we need another 2 years of "rebuilding" just to be competing for a top four spot?

Even without these Marquees even without these salary cap allowances being utilised we can still make the top 4 with competent coaching and players

Gypos done it for years and they never had the cash to maximise the salary cap and Marquees etc

Lester poised to win the EPL down to tactics and players performance.Not cash

If those things can be done by these clubs then there is no reason we cant

[RAM]

Even without these Marquees even without these salary cap allowances being utilised we can still make the top 4 with competent coaching and players

Gypos done it for years and they never had the cash to maximise the salary cap and Marquees etc

Lester poised to win the EPL down to tactics and players performance.Not cash

If those things can be done by these clubs then there is no reason we cant

fmd

[stopper2]

Even without these Marquees even without these salary cap allowances being utilised we can still make the top 4 with competent coaching and players

Gypos done it for years and they never had the cash to maximise the salary cap and Marquees etc

Lester poised to win the EPL down to tactics and players performance.Not cash

If those things can be done by these clubs then there is no reason we cant

Yes, under Arnie the Gypos had no Marquees but didn't they have Aloisi when we played them in the '08 GF?....careful when you use the word "never" Member lol.

I think from time to time everything will fall into place for a team like Leicester or like Valencia a few years back when they broke the Barca/Real stranglehold in La Liga but really this is low percentage stuff. Same as what we achieved in'08 with no Marquee and no 3rd party agreements, everything just fell into place nicely that season. It may happen again but I think the likliehood is becoming less and less. The scouting of in particular imports has been exceptional this season in the A League, Castro is a Marquee but for City to have any chance of keeping Fornaroli, he will have to given Marquee status and paid accordingly.
To even have a chance of competing for a top four spot, based on the improving standard this season in the A League you will need at least 2 players who are of outstanding quality who can turn a game on their own. Sure a very good coach can make a big difference and play to the team's strengths but you still need a Fornaroli or a MacLaren or a Keogh or a Berisha who is going to score the goals and a Mooy or a Castro or a Carrusca or a Nicholls who can provide that killer pass and also chip in with a goal here and there.

[Frodo]

Even without these Marquees even without these salary cap allowances being utilised we can still make the top 4 with competent coaching and players

Gypos done it for years and they never had the cash to maximise the salary cap and Marquees etc

Lester poised to win the EPL down to tactics and players performance.Not cash

If those things can be done by these clubs then there is no reason we cant

I thought i'd let the Leicester thing go from earlier since we were sort of on different pages but you've just done it again and proven another point i was trying to make.

Leicester aren't going to win the EPL just because they changed tactics from last year. They've been systematically improving the club from top to bottom to compete at the top level. They brought in better youth coaches and were promoted to the Barclays U21 league Division 1. They brought in new scouts a couple of years ago to improve their network, they've been spending money on the stadium to boost attendances, they have one of the best pitches in the EPL nowadays. They are a very well run club... Their chairman knows exactly how to run a successful football club and now they are showing it on the pitch.

Yes, Ranieri had to come in an change the tactics and the players had to perform amazingly but it helps when you have a steady and successful business to work for.

As for the Gypos, they have proven time and again that they can out perform us when it comes to running a viable business with 1/4 of our supporters and resources. Their Youth academy is doing well and they seem to lose less money than us.

Just let that sink in... That's how bad the numpties we've had in charge really are. We have 11,000 members and could easily pull 15,000 fans to games with a good owner. I don't give a shit about 1 year of finals football or 2. I want an owner to come in and set us up to be successful across the park. Spend some money to attract fans/sponsors/sauce bottles and make us a decent club, then it won't be a matter of making the finals, it'll be a matter of making the ACL finals.

[Frodo]

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[boz-monaut]

this is why I think we need the ability to like posts on this forum - I don't have anything to add to Frodo's post other than it is correct and agree with everything said

EDIT: I meant the post with the words

[lquiquer]

Their Youth academy is doing well and they seem to lose less money than us.


Gypos youth academy is doing well possibly because they play against Sydney oppositions. Maybe Jerks should look at that. I heard of 2 14 /15 years old kids who left Emerging Jets to join Gypo academy for that exact reason....apparently better and more competitive oppositions

[MFKS]

I thought i'd let the Leicester thing go from earlier since we were sort of on different pages but you've just done it again and proven another point i was trying to make.

Leicester aren't going to win the EPL just because they changed tactics from last year. They've been systematically improving the club from top to bottom to compete at the top level. They brought in better youth coaches and were promoted to the Barclays U21 league Division 1. They brought in new scouts a couple of years ago to improve their network, they've been spending money on the stadium to boost attendances, they have one of the best pitches in the EPL nowadays. They are a very well run club... Their chairman knows exactly how to run a successful football club and now they are showing it on the pitch.

Yes, Ranieri had to come in an change the tactics and the players had to perform amazingly but it helps when you have a steady and successful business to work for.

As for the Gypos, they have proven time and again that they can out perform us when it comes to running a viable business with 1/4 of our supporters and resources. Their Youth academy is doing well and they seem to lose less money than us.

Just let that sink in... That's how bad the numpties we've had in charge really are. We have 11,000 members and could easily pull 15,000 fans to games with a good owner. I don't give a shit about 1 year of finals football or 2. I want an owner to come in and set us up to be successful across the park. Spend some money to attract fans/sponsors/sauce bottles and make us a decent club, then it won't be a matter of making the finals, it'll be a matter of making the ACL finals.

Firstly Lester haven't done anything to their stadium in 13 years since it was built.
Having plans to expand it in the future are just that . Words about as useful as a politicians promise until it materialises

The club were in the Championship 24 months ago. If they have fundamentally over hauled their club as much as you claim how much you want to bet they are not in the top 4 next season??

Man City Chelsea will be back, Scousers should improve under Klopp Arsenal will do their usual.Throw in Spuds who are on the up Man U have a pile of kids who will be better in 12 months time and tell me again they have built a long term sustainable situation at the top??

I back they won't even make top 10 next season

Yeah they have spent money. Whoopeededoo

Every club in the EPL has a multi million pound transfer budget.

They have actually spent **** all compared to others.
Others are also spending money on stuff they do. Don't try and tell anyone they have invented the wheel let alone reinvented it

They have just spent money prudently and got exceptional results for their money spent

Now explain to me why our club can't do this??

No reason whatsoever

[hawk]

Just let that sink in... That's how bad the numpties we've had in charge really are. We have 11,000 members and could easily pull 15,000 fans to games with a good owner.
yes & correct but I thought those thoughts were all a given anyway.

but here's the crux....plan a good holiday at end of the reg season next year cause there'll be no Aleague here

btw Leicester management cant believe their team is this good and they have no idea how to do it again either

[the_butcher]

I predict that we will be debating who our number one keeper is regardless of who has been signed.

It's a better tradition than the Masters IMHO.

BK sux

[weston]

If Miller stays, top 6.

If Miller goes than I expect we are competitive.

Reasons being, Miller should be able to get the players in for a top 6 finish. Yeh top 4 would be great but after not making he finals for god knows how long now top 6 will do me. If we get a new manager than another rebuilding year I suppose.

[plague]

Stop picking on the Member. Nothing wrong with setting some goals, it's not like he's demanding we win the ACL as well.

[plague]

Besides, you blokes are the exact same nay-sayers who said we'd never win the Singapore 6's.

Egg on all your faces.

[StannyCFCJET]

BK sux

negative ghost rider move along

[hawk]

expectations?

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[Jetmaster]

expectations?

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gggggoooooaaaaaallllllllll!!!!!!

[weston]

expectations?

http://images.8tracks.com/cover/i/000/204/633/Hot_Girls_in_the_Middle_12-5529.jpg?rect=0,24,618,618&q=98&fm=jpg&fit=max

Now those are the big expectations that I like

[RAM]

too big

[Superdylan]

I think we will finish around the same position.

[MFKS]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/05/07/97278185_LEICESTER-ENGLAND---MAY-07--Claudio-Ranieri-Manager-of-Leicester-City-lifts-the-Premier-Lea-large_trans++eo_i_u9APj8RuoebjoAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg

Top 4 people

Anything is possible

[redwah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/05/07/97278185_LEICESTER-ENGLAND---MAY-07--Claudio-Ranieri-Manager-of-Leicester-City-lifts-the-Premier-Lea-large_trans++eo_i_u9APj8RuoebjoAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg

Top 4 people

Anything is possible

That's Leicester City....where's this Lester you've been banging on about?

[plague]

That's Leicester City....where's this Lester you've been banging on about?

Pfffft, this guy.

Plastics coming out of the woodwork all over the place.
Can't even spell Lester properly.
Prob has no idea what number Jaime Vardy is.

[hawk]

we'll be top 8 ezy

[stopper2]

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Top 4 people

Anything is possible

Agree, Leicester have proved that anything is possible.
I think too much emphasis is placed on "rebuilding" a club and that it takes 2-3 seasons to turn a below average team into a top team.
You get the right coach and the right mix of 6-7 core players with the perfect blend of youth and experience, with a professional set-up behind the scenes (trainers, physio etc)....so the players and coach just have to worry about football.
Especially in a 10 team comp like the A League, you can go from bottom 3 to top 3 within a season...which is basically what WSW achieved this season....from 9th to 2nd!!!

[hawk]

I think too much emphasis is placed on "rebuilding" a club and that it takes 2-3 seasons to turn a below average team into a top team.
You get the right coach and the right mix of 6-7 core players with the perfect blend of youth and experience, with a professional set-up behind the scenes (trainers, physio etc)....so the players and coach just have to worry about football.
Especially in a 10 team comp like the A League, you can go from bottom 3 to top 3 within a season...which is basically what WSW achieved this season....from 9th to 2nd!!!

too right. we get it all wrong too often

[Frodo]

Agree, Leicester have proved that anything is possible.
I think too much emphasis is placed on "rebuilding" a club and that it takes 2-3 seasons to turn a below average team into a top team.
You get the right coach and the right mix of 6-7 core players with the perfect blend of youth and experience, with a professional set-up behind the scenes (trainers, physio etc)....so the players and coach just have to worry about football.
Especially in a 10 team comp like the A League, you can go from bottom 3 to top 3 within a season...which is basically what WSW achieved this season....from 9th to 2nd!!!

I think alot of the rebuilding talk is designed to make sure that we are competitive for the next 10 years, not just 1 season in the top 2 followed by 2 spoons and repeat. The team isn't our problem its the backroom staff that needs rebuilding. Get some stability off the field, then let that transfer onto the pitch.

[plague]

The team isn't our problem its the backroom staff that needs rebuilding. Get some stability off the field, then let that transfer onto the pitch.

Whilst I agree with the back room staff bit, stopper2's point is pretty much proven right every year by the Wanderers who rissole heaps of blokes yet remain competitive.

[MFKS]

I think alot of the rebuilding talk is designed to make sure that we are competitive for the next 10 years, not just 1 season in the top 2 followed by 2 spoons and repeat. The team isn't our problem its the backroom staff that needs rebuilding. Get some stability off the field, then let that transfer onto the pitch.

I think the rebuilding talk is just talk and complete and utter crap from people offering up excuses in advance for failure.

There is **** all reason why we can't have a successful year next season if the Manager signs the right players and then gets his team to perform to an adequate level.

Any thing offered up as to why Millertime can't do this is nothing but a weak excuse.

He has squad places left he has money available.
Make the signings and then do the work on the training pitch and work harder and better than everyone else.

That he controls.No one else.

Our position on the League table next season will be a reflection of his work in the transfer market and his work on the training pitch and his players ability to perform at the level required.

Nothing else mattters

[halo se7en]

I think the rebuilding talk is just talk and complete and utter crap from people offering up excuses in advance for failure.

There is **** all reason why we can't have a successful year next season if the Manager signs the right players and then gets his team to perform to an adequate level.

Any thing offered up as to why Millertime can't do this is nothing but a weak excuse.

He has squad places left he has money available.
Make the signings and then do the work on the training pitch and work harder and better than everyone else.

That he controls.No one else.

Our position on the League table next season will be a reflection of his work in the transfer market and his work on the training pitch and his players ability to perform at the level required.

Nothing else mattters

While I agree with this, you need to remember that 9 other clubs are trying to do the exact same thing. There is zero guarantee that the players we sign will be better than all the other players signed around the league, or that Miller's tactics are going to trump the tactics of every other coach.

I believe Miller has the ability to take the Jets into the top 4, but to suggest that he controls our destiny 100% is naive.

[Hunter403]

My expectation is that we won't be relegated. I hope I am not disappointed

[Frodo]

I think the rebuilding talk is just talk and complete and utter crap from people offering up excuses in advance for failure.

There is **** all reason why we can't have a successful year next season if the Manager signs the right players and then gets his team to perform to an adequate level.

Any thing offered up as to why Millertime can't do this is nothing but a weak excuse.

He has squad places left he has money available.
Make the signings and then do the work on the training pitch and work harder and better than everyone else.

That he controls.No one else.

Our position on the League table next season will be a reflection of his work in the transfer market and his work on the training pitch and his players ability to perform at the level required.

Nothing else mattters

Although i'm loving your positive posts of late, i feel like you are being very shortsighted.

There is already a gap forming between the top 6 and the rest of us, if you think that's not a problem worthy of attention than you are drinking the Koolaid yourself.

We could definitely finish top 4 next year, but it would be a fluke and i'd much rather focus on fixing up the club so that the top 4 becomes the lowest we set the bar, not something that we dream off.


Don't let this Lester season go to your head, we all love a fairytale but i'd much rather be competing at the top table year in year out then win it once and fall from grace like Blackburn or Nottingham Forrest.

[Jetmaster]

Bump..

Priority is to fix the overall professionalism of the club - before we think marquees etc.

* Lets' have the full quota of backroom staff.
* A more professional training environment - the guys train, lunch together, train again. Not just turn up, train and go to the pub like all age.
* Better travel arrangements
* Update the equipment - do we have a fake "wall" for example?
* Sort out the kit once and for all.
* The catering....
* Better quality members kit (though guaranteed will be made in China).
* Build something from this century for the Squadron to sit in.
* Invite celebs to sit in the crowd.
* Sort out security, once and **** for all. Like, ensure tickets are checked.

This stuff (and more) would increase productivity straight away.

[stopper2]

Bump..

Priority is to fix the overall professionalism of the club - before we think marquees etc.

* Lets' have the full quota of backroom staff.
* A more professional training environment - the guys train, lunch together, train again. Not just turn up, train and go to the pub like all age.
* Better travel arrangements
* Update the equipment - do we have a fake "wall" for example?
* Sort out the kit once and for all.
* The catering....
* Better quality members kit (though guaranteed will be made in China).
* Build something from this century for the Squadron to sit in.
* Invite celebs to sit in the crowd.
* Sort out security, once and **** for all. Like, ensure tickets are checked.

This stuff (and more) would increase productivity straight away.

Tend to agree mate, we need to start building and getting the foundations behind the scenes right first.
Although, I still think it is important that Lee does make a bit of a statement by getting us a name player, otherwise his prediction of qualifying for the ACL in 3 years will seem a bit shallow at best, BS at worst. Will be an interesting "balancing act" between investing in the right places but also showing supporters that he is serious about making us stronger on the park...where the club as a whole is judged.

[Jetmaster]

I think the remaining signings for this season will be solid, but not household names. Would like the next Berisha, Flores, Finkler, Broich, Fornaroli, even Nobby- solid pros who explode at this level. We may get an OS Socceroo, that would be tops.

I expect there will be no marquee this season, maybe a guest in the new year - next season I would expect more.

[Tommyjet]

I think if there is a marquee itll be a no-name one with a salary that just wont fit in cap, ie 500k+. Someone miller really wants and convinces marty to spend on.

[RAM]

Top 8

[hawk]

we'll be top 8 ezy

Agree with Ram, this still applies

[NUGUNS]

* Update the equipment - do we have a fake "wall" for example?
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I believe they just grab some of the youth/fringe players and set them up on the 18.