2016/17 Squad Thread

[The Dunster]

Iain Ramsay......just signed a contract in the Philippines apparently but.....28, plenty experience in HAL.... would he be a good signing? could he be another Nabbout story? ......CEO on twitter didn't seem convinced.....thoughts?

Ramsay has his moments but lack of consistency and not being the hardest working of players does him no favours. Nabbout is completely different in that he was struggling because he was at a team with internationals / marquee type players in front of him who's names were pretty much permanently embossed on the team sheet. If you look back at the reactions on the foz many of us were excited about signing Nabbout. His form does not surprise me at all.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Iain Ramsay......just signed a contract in the Philippines apparently but.....28, plenty experience in HAL.... would he be a good signing? could he be another Nabbout story? ......CEO on twitter didn't seem convinced.....thoughts?

Ramsay had a very decent crack at City/Heart. He was just terrible.

[lquiquer]

Ramsay had a very decent crack at City/Heart. He was just terrible.

I remember him as often putting himself in great scoring position and unable to hit the back of the net .......a bit like Hoole

[plague]

CEO on twitter didn't seem convinced.....thoughts?

tell him to sign Steve Lustica see if the gypo will get off his ass and do something for our club.

[borat]

Righto. Well when you see Uncle Mark at the family BBQ this wknd, tell him he's doing a superb job.

You are just wasting your time trying to debate anything remotely factual with the Member for Licking Jones's Arse.

The guy spent his entire existence on the foz death riding any performance or coach as not good enough until the local gets appointed and then it's all roses.

Of course the fact that we didn't actually have any resources, training facilities, staff bar the handful left after Tinkler when Miller took over is readily forgotten. If it wasn't for the players that Miller recruited this year we would be battling for stone motherless last and not the lofty heights that we are now.

Am happy to see where we end up at the end of the season and judge Jones on that. If the minimum top 6 place can be delelivered then that's a pass mark considering the squad at his disposal including the leading A-League player of the season.

But if we fall to 7th, 8th or 9th then he should be let go so a coach can be appointed who build the club. A coach with the capacity to recruit outside of Adelaide and the 07/08 Jets squad would be a start.

[borat]

Gotta agree with the member here. Miller for almost 2 thirds of lasts season played park the bus, hope other team makes a mistake. He also spent most games bringing on defensive players regardless of the score or time of the game. Yes he gets credit for some of his signings. But end of the day he wanted to park the bus with lazy ass players like Triffo Leonardo and Carney. not to mention that 10 game run where we didnt score a goal. Jones however has our players digging deap and fighting for 90 mins as well as occasionally actually looking up and passing the ball around. You have to wonder if Miller would get out of this squad what Mr Jones is and frankly im not so sure.

Do you seriously beleive Jones doesn't park the bus every week?

Listen to his post game comments, every week it's about keeping clean sheets and defending. He just isn't any good at delivering for all the talk.

The only difference is that Jones has at his disposal the attacking wide players that Miller recruited. We are still a counter attacking side, just better at it due to the squad

[StannyCFCJET]

Do you seriously beleive Jones doesn't park the bus every week?

Listen to his post game comments, every week it's about keeping clean sheets and defending. He just isn't any good at delivering for all the talk.

The only difference is that Jones has at his disposal the attacking wide players that Miller recruited. We are still a counter attacking side, just better at it due to the squad

If you think what we have done past 5-6 weeks is what parking the bus is? then you need to watch more football

[halo se7en]

And your point? He also signed an 18yo kid who showed up both our 'Senior" starting CBs in his non preferred position.

Miller signed that Alivodic bloke who was absolutely puss.


Yet he's not starting now. And Miller didn't sign Alivodic. He's exactly the 'puss' signing Miller had to work with when he got here.

[380]

Welcome, Joel.

Welcome Gaz

[StannyCFCJET]

Yet he's not starting now. And Miller didn't sign Alivodic. He's exactly the 'puss' signing Miller had to work with when he got here.

didnt miller resign enver?

[halo se7en]

didnt miller resign enver?

He re-signed April 2015 for a year. Stubs was sacked a month later.

[MFKS]

He re-signed April 2015 for a year. Stubs was sacked a month later.

Best thing that has happened to our club in many a year was the sacking of Miller

Bloke is revered for nothing.

I actually liking what we doing with Jones

I happy to stick know my neck out on this bloke because he showing something the rest of the useless managers we had haven't

I looking forward to when these chickens come home to roost and the big picture eventuates


I sure Miller still be getting credit for it some how

[turbojetfireV8]

Says very little for Jones as a recruiter if we don't sign anyone who isn't an Adelaide state leaguer:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4416463/jets-come-up-empty-in-january-player-search/?cs=306

[MFKS]

Says very little for Jones as a recruiter if we don't sign anyone who isn't an Adelaide state leaguer:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4416463/jets-come-up-empty-in-january-player-search/?cs=306

So signing a player from the NPL to fill the NPL player allowance is a sign that Jones is a bad recruiter??

Where else you expect him to sign an NPL player from ?? La Liga?? Bundesliga? ? Serie A? ? EPL??

I suppose you be critical when he signs the Yoof players and he picks Yoof players not 10 year veterans??

[rhysd]

Reading the last few pages there is just a clear over-riding sentiment that we are all disappointed with the last 8 years.

This squad are Miller's boys. Guys like Ugarkovic, poljak, nordstrand, kokko, nabbout, vujica, Duncan, brown. Clearly they were aligned with Miller and I am sure they were all super disappointed when he got sacked (which, considering the amount of negative media we have had since the sacking, was most likely deserved).

Jones has come in. Immediately he had to overcome the nepotism insinuations and the crippling injury toll and put his stamp on the team.

We have scored nearly as many goals this season as we did all of last.

The side is playing a more fluent, vibrant and exciting style of football. The style of football he had to make the players believe in. It is with no coincidence that our midfield of poljak, ugarkovic etc are playing in the manner in which they are this season. They were benched early on, most likely as a sign of showing them that they need to start believing in the process, in addition to astute signings (fyfe, koutrombis) and return of injured stars has them and the team doing much better.

The game against Perth. That is the first time, in a long time, that I have seen another team actually change their structure to combat the jets. Yet, despite the first 15 mins of pillaging from Perth on our defense, the tactical training and coaching methodology allowed the boys to enter the break at 2-1 up and for the most part looked the better by the end of the first half.

I would have loved miller to sign a 4-5 yr contract (for the record) but unfortunately we will never know exactly where he was going with his vision.

Jones has had his challenges and from what I have seen so far has deserved his long awaited shot at the top gig. Not to mention he took the signing of Leilei in his stride, took it on the chin and was able to show he can actually work with the hierarchy.

As for the defence. You are kidding yourselves if a Mr Birighitti didn't have a HUGE role in keeping our GA statistic down. Yet we still lost by 4 on a couple of occasions.

Managing to merge various debates here.. but if we had Birighitti in goal this season I would dare say that we would be occupying 4th spot at the moment.

Jones needs more time to bring in the players needed to supplement his clear attacking based philosophy.

[plague]

Reading the last few pages there is just a clear over-riding sentiment that we are all disappointed with the last 8 years.

This squad are Miller's boys. Guys like Ugarkovic, poljak, nordstrand, kokko, nabbout, vujica, Duncan, brown. Clearly they were aligned with Miller and I am sure they were all super disappointed when he got sacked (which, considering the amount of negative media we have had since the sacking, was most likely deserved).

Jones has come in. Immediately he had to overcome the nepotism insinuations and the crippling injury toll and put his stamp on the team.

We have scored nearly as many goals this season as we did all of last.

The side is playing a more fluent, vibrant and exciting style of football. The style of football he had to make the players believe in. It is with no coincidence that our midfield of poljak, ugarkovic etc are playing in the manner in which they are this season. They were benched early on, most likely as a sign of showing them that they need to start believing in the process, in addition to astute signings (fyfe, koutrombis) and return of injured stars has them and the team doing much better.

The game against Perth. That is the first time, in a long time, that I have seen another team actually change their structure to combat the jets. Yet, despite the first 15 mins of pillaging from Perth on our defense, the tactical training and coaching methodology allowed the boys to enter the break at 2-1 up and for the most part looked the better by the end of the first half.

I would have loved miller to sign a 4-5 yr contract (for the record) but unfortunately we will never know exactly where he was going with his vision.

Jones has had his challenges and from what I have seen so far has deserved his long awaited shot at the top gig. Not to mention he took the signing of Leilei in his stride, took it on the chin and was able to show he can actually work with the hierarchy.

As for the defence. You are kidding yourselves if a Mr Birighitti didn't have a HUGE role in keeping our GA statistic down. Yet we still lost by 4 on a couple of occasions.

Managing to merge various debates here.. but if we had Birighitti in goal this season I would dare say that we would be occupying 4th spot at the moment.

Jones needs more time to bring in the players needed to supplement his clear attacking based philosophy.

get the hell out of here with your sensible talk and balanced observations.

[Wilso8948]

Reading the last few pages there is just a clear over-riding sentiment that we are all disappointed with the last 8 years.

This squad are Miller's boys. Guys like Ugarkovic, poljak, nordstrand, kokko, nabbout, vujica, Duncan, brown. Clearly they were aligned with Miller and I am sure they were all super disappointed when he got sacked (which, considering the amount of negative media we have had since the sacking, was most likely deserved).

Jones has come in. Immediately he had to overcome the nepotism insinuations and the crippling injury toll and put his stamp on the team.

We have scored nearly as many goals this season as we did all of last.

The side is playing a more fluent, vibrant and exciting style of football. The style of football he had to make the players believe in. It is with no coincidence that our midfield of poljak, ugarkovic etc are playing in the manner in which they are this season. They were benched early on, most likely as a sign of showing them that they need to start believing in the process, in addition to astute signings (fyfe, koutrombis) and return of injured stars has them and the team doing much better.

The game against Perth. That is the first time, in a long time, that I have seen another team actually change their structure to combat the jets. Yet, despite the first 15 mins of pillaging from Perth on our defense, the tactical training and coaching methodology allowed the boys to enter the break at 2-1 up and for the most part looked the better by the end of the first half.

I would have loved miller to sign a 4-5 yr contract (for the record) but unfortunately we will never know exactly where he was going with his vision.

Jones has had his challenges and from what I have seen so far has deserved his long awaited shot at the top gig. Not to mention he took the signing of Leilei in his stride, took it on the chin and was able to show he can actually work with the hierarchy.

As for the defence. You are kidding yourselves if a Mr Birighitti didn't have a HUGE role in keeping our GA statistic down. Yet we still lost by 4 on a couple of occasions.

Managing to merge various debates here.. but if we had Birighitti in goal this season I would dare say that we would be occupying 4th spot at the moment.

Jones needs more time to bring in the players needed to supplement his clear attacking based philosophy.

Totally agree with nearly all of this.

Raised eyebrows a touch at your thoughts regarding Birraz. He was by far our best player in recent years and I was a huge fan. Had a massive effect on our results and by all means was a massive loss.. However..

I think Duncan has done a fantastic job coming in. Not just a solid job but has genuinely saved games for us. Last week case in point. If you look at his two major **** ups. Both against Adelaide in round 1 (ended up 1-1) and the win against Adelaide when he threw it into his own net it really hasn't had a huge bearing on results.

He has however in my opinion saved us on numerous occasions.

All your other points are bang on though. Miller did a good job. Jones is doing a good job. There are positives to both. But at the end of the day Jones is coach. Miller is sacked. Time to move on and hope we get some results.

[turbojetfireV8]

So signing a player from the NPL to fill the NPL player allowance is a sign that Jones is a bad recruiter??

Where else you expect him to sign an NPL player from ?? La Liga?? Bundesliga? ? Serie A? ? EPL??

I suppose you be critical when he signs the Yoof players and he picks Yoof players not 10 year veterans??

If da Silva is available why not chase him instead and look at him as a longer term prospect - on the other hand, why not just sign someone from the NBN league if all you are after is state leaguers, you don't need to go all the way to SA to do that now do you? There are Aussies abroad we could be targetting is my point, Miller did it, why doesn't Jones?

[OmeletteDuFromage]

If da Silva is available why not chase him instead and look at him as a longer term prospect - on the other hand, why not just sign someone from the NBN league if all you are after is state leaguers, you don't need to go all the way to SA to do that now do you? There are Aussies abroad we could be targetting is my point, Miller did it, why doesn't Jones?

I think theres some contract issues around da Silva and Perth Glory. It was my understanding that because he wasnt bought by Roma, Roda brought him in only on loan.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/01/21/jones-reveals-jets-already-signing-new-players-next-season


Newcastle Jets coach Mark Jones revealed the club had already signed players "everyone is in the market for" from other A-League clubs for next season.
By Greg Prichard
21 JAN 2017 - 12:36 PM UPDATED 3 HOURS AGO

The Jets are unlikely to do any major business during the January transfer window because the sort of players they wanted weren't available, but Jones told The World Game that planning for next season was proceeding well.

He said the club had plenty of room in which to move because a lot of players were coming off contract at the end of this season.

"We're not seeking a short-term fix," Jones said.

"The owner wants the club to be figuring at the top of the tree in three years' time, so we're going to refresh our squad and change our squad and I want good athletes, good players and players without an extensive injury history.

"We need to make sure that in the future we're not in a position where we were earlier this season when we had four or five regular players out at the one time.

"We've got a lot of room in which to move for next season and there is a lot of planning being done. We're actively in the market at the moment and we've signed some players who can't be announced yet, but they will be announced.

"They're A-League players that everyone is in the market for, so it's pleasing that they've chosen to come here.

"We won't be releasing the names until they tell us they can be released, but we're certainly active at the moment. We're after the best players and we want to be a strong club that figures at the top again.

"We're looking at players at other clubs, as every club is doing, and it's a bit of a silly season with everyone chasing each other's players, but it's good."

Newcastle have recently released three players from their 23-man roster who weren't figuring in the match-day squads.

On Friday they announced the signing of mature-age rookie Joel Allwright, 28, from South Australian NPL club Adelaide City for the rest of this season, mainly as defensive cover.

The Jets had hoped to sign former Western Sydney Wanderers, Sydney FC and Jets forward Mark Bridge during the window, but had to abandon that plan when he suffered a knee injury in training with his club in Thailand.

Jones said he wasn't going to sign players just for the sake of it and that the Jets were ready to proceed with 21 players and back-up from the club's youth squad if necessary for the rest of this season.

"There's not much else on the radar," he said. "It would have to be someone better than what we've got or there's no point, so we'll wait until next season and then we've got room to move in terms of both visa spots and local spots."

[steve136]

Wouldn't be surprised if one was Petratos.

[Wilso8948]

I'm more then happy with the position they're taking. Long term prospects and not making rash decisions.
On a side note weren't we linked with petratos? As he's off contract. Could be one of the players mentioned

[Jeterpool]

Wouldn't be surprised if one was Petratos.

Hopefully Dimitri and not Kosta

[380]

More often than not Jones comments are in complete contrast to our CEO in regards to recruitment.

[MFKS]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/01/21/jones-reveals-jets-already-signing-new-players-next-season



Probably signing a pile of South Australian NPL players

[plague]

oh dear god not Petratos......

[rhysd]

Is risdon confirmed to wsw?

[Tommyjet]

Is risdon confirmed to wsw?
Yeah not official yet. Would love to have him instead of hoff

[MFKS]

oh dear god not Petratos......

Could be worse

We could look to sign Lustica


That bloke is a fraud like Petratos as well

[lquiquer]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/01/21/jones-reveals-jets-already-signing-new-players-next-season



:brrr:

[lquiquer]

Could be worse

We could look to sign Lustica


That bloke is a fraud like Petratos as well

Ninkovic, Grant, Fornaroli and Tongyik nothing less....

[lquiquer]

tell him to sign Steve Lustica see if the gypo will get off his ass and do something for our club.

I'll get the Member on the job, about time he gets pro active with his twitter account

[Wilso8948]

O'caravan is another option he could be referring to

[lquiquer]

O'caravan is another option he could be referring to

Yeah prob got him in the bag... :facepalm::facepalm:

[plague]

Could be worse

We could look to sign Lustica


That bloke is a fraud like Petratos as well

Proven time and time again the Jets can't win without him.
How much more evidence does Middleby need?

[The Camel]

oh dear god not Petratos......

Agreed. Terrible player. If chasing any of the off contract mob from Brisbane I would rather McLaren and or Borello

[cobra23]

or sean ontong

[plague]

or sean ontong

oh man i can't even make jokes about that poor dude. still feel bummed he could never get on the ****ing park.

[Bon]

oh man i can't even make jokes about that poor dude. still feel bummed he could never get on the ****ing park.

Never saw them, but Ontong and Tolgay Özbey used to score a heap in FM back in the day..

[Wilso8948]

In my opinion Petratos has stepped it up a notch this year. Was very average last few years but seems to be coming good this season.

[Wilso8948]

Whats doing with Adama Traore? Didn't he get his citizenship then realise he was ineligible to play for the Roos? Good LB option if he's continued to play recently

[lil_masi]

Whats doing with Adama Traore? Didn't he get his citizenship then realise he was ineligible to play for the Roos? Good LB option if he's continued to play recently

Hes currently playing in the African Cup of Nations!!

[Jeterpool]

I know he's a gypo, and we'd have no chance of signing him, but Trent Sainsbury looks like he's on the way out of his Chinese team as part of teh new rules.

[goaliepersempre]

Whats doing with Adama Traore? Didn't he get his citizenship then realise he was ineligible to play for the Roos? Good LB option if he's continued to play recently

in basel.... not going away from there, well not back to the A league I dont think..

[turbojetfireV8]

A few from the Herald:
on Sawyer: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4421155/jets-wild-about-harry/?cs=3398
and Lowey's appraisal of the game: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4421030/david-lowes-lowedown-photos-video/?cs=3398

[6ft11]

What bull dust by Lowey... FMD!!!

Done nothing wrong to drop from 5th to 8th???

Are you serious Lowey?

Jones is one minute saying he needs reinforcements but the squads full so he can't bring in anyone then goes on and replaces the dismissed players like for like!

Then Jonesy starts spinning s*** that he's signed players for next year... like WTF!

Lowey may think that the Jets have done "not much wrong" to drop to 8th but I sure as hell do starting with Jonesy from the top.

Jones is out of his depth and is lucky to even be in eighth, if it wasn't for a weakened A-League competition this year the Jets would be lucky to be even where we are.

But its a boys club isn't it Lowey, along with your other bum chums at running the Jets.

Unfortunately all involved are taking Mr Lee for a ride, all the way from the FFA down!

Bloody hell the Jets have to be FFA's most profitable franchise, sold over and over again... GO JETS!

[turbojetfireV8]

Nordstrand right to go, but Brown still iffy: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4423690/nordstrand-fit-for-coffs-harbour-trip/?cs=306

[Wilso8948]

Apparently fb saying we've signed joeys captain mark moric?

[hawk]

Apparently fb saying we've signed joeys captain mark moric?

Could be ok but its alarming how many international jnrs go on to do nothing

[lquiquer]

Apparently fb saying we've signed joeys captain mark moric?

another one I never heard of.....but hey I'm not in the loop am I?

[lquiquer]

I'm convinced we haven't signed anyone (Petratos like) from other A-League club for next year (As claimed by Jones and CEO).....we talked to few but not signed....

[plague]

Better to let the new coach pick his squad anyway.

[MFKS]

another one I never heard of.....but hey I'm not in the loop am I?
His old man Ante Moric played for Sydney Croatia back in the day with Milicic Kalac Rudan Popovic etc

[evanhayes5]

I think we have signed some other kid from brisbane to, not talking about Sawyer, some other kid.

[Fairgo]

I think we have signed some other kid from brisbane to, not talking about Sawyer, some other kid.

Who??

[turbojetfireV8]

Nabbout narrowly escaped becoming a gyppo: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4417856/andrew-nabbout-could-win-johnny-warren-medal-after-being-rejected-by-central-coast-mariners/?cs=2439

[turbojetfireV8]

hope all these U13s Jones is signing are for our youth team, not the senior team...

[Roundball Enthusiast]

LM says we're announcing new signings today. Whether thats for January or for next year I'm not sure. See who and when for today i guess.

[StannyCFCJET]

LM says we're announcing new signings today. Whether thats for January or for next year I'm not sure. See who and when for today i guess.

Did he say this on twitter?

[Bon]

LM says we're announcing new signings today. Whether thats for January or for next year I'm not sure. See who and when for today i guess.

Signings? Plural?

[lquiquer]

Did he say this on twitter?

yep

[StannyCFCJET]

Im guessing its those players for next year Jones was talking about or that young Kid we heard about yesterday but still cheers for the heads up guys

[lquiquer]

Signings? Plural?

"We have signed and will announce today"

[lquiquer]

Petratos according to Gatty

[lquiquer]

I'm convinced we haven't signed anyone (Petratos like) from other A-League club for next year (As claimed by Jones and CEO).....we talked to few but not signed....

And I was wrong again :facepalm:

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Petratos according to Gatty

Massive if true. Having said that, he's probably only stepped up this season, so hopefully he can continue his form.

[StannyCFCJET]

He's been underrated last few seasons IMO. Is he a wide player or more suited central, seen him play both for Brisbane.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

He's been underrated last few seasons IMO. Is he a wide player or more suited central, seen him play both for Brisbane.

True, its always tough to stand out in a squad like Brisbane has.

[R Ramjet]

After the perth game it was interesting to see andy keogh having dinner at arrivederci's with ruben zadkovich. Keogh was in his team tracksuit and pretty much changed out of it on the footpath. Hes been rumoured to have asked for a release from perth hasnt he ? His wife was with him so maybe they were checking out the local sights. Might be playing for the magic next season

[Roundball Enthusiast]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitri_Petratos

:popcorn:

[StannyCFCJET]

After the perth game it was interesting to see andy keogh having dinner at arrivederci's with ruben zadkovich. Keogh was in his team tracksuit and pretty much changed out of it on the footpath. Hes been rumoured to have asked for a release from perth hasnt he ? His wife was with him so maybe they were checking out the local sights. Might be playing for the magic next season

Or catching up with an old teammate

[Bon]

Would take Petratos.
Would whack off like a frenzied chimp if it was Keogh..

[StannyCFCJET]

Would take Petratos.
Would whack off like a frenzied chimp if it was Keogh..

:lulzturtle: :lulzturtle: :lulzturtle: :lulzturtle: :lulzturtle:

[borat]

Jones will just sit Petratos on the bench or out of the squad altogether for several CB options

[Bon]

Jones will just sit Petratos on the bench or out of the squad altogether for several CB options

2-0 down, lets bring on a defender..

[The Camel]

Would take Petratos.
Would whack off like a frenzied chimp if it was Keogh..

As if Jones would play Keogh. He hates out and out strikers.

[Bon]

As if Jones would play Keogh. He hates out and out strikers.

And hes not an Adelaide youth..

[StannyCFCJET]

We need to find a system that lets Kokko and Nordstrand play together up front with allowing Nobby to drop deep and find space

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Petratos is an upgrade on Clut but is still massively inconsistent.

[hawk]

I'm convinced we haven't signed anyone (Petratos like) from other A-League club for next year (As claimed by Jones and CEO).....we talked to few but not signed....

ray gatt reckons dimi is coming. we'll see

[Macca]

We need to find a system that lets Kokko and Nordstrand play together up front with allowing Nobby to drop deep and find space

Not too hard, put Noddy in 10 in current system, Brown into DM with Ugar or Poljak alongside.
Alternatively can go to 4-4-2 although the differences between the two setups would be marginal anyway.

I think we may not see Kokko start again for at least a few more weeks though, Jones probably wouldn't have seen much he liked against WSW. Having said that I don't think Nordstrand has been that good when starting for us either, I think both have had their better performances coming off the bench into a spread and tired game.

[StannyCFCJET]

Petratos is an upgrade on Clut but is still massively inconsistent.

At this stage ill take upgrade, Well just give him 4 years like we've given Hoole and hell be world class like Hoole is

[Tommyjet]

At this stage ill take upgrade, Well just give him 4 years like we've given Hoole and hell be world class like Hoole is

Petratos already 5 steps ahead of Hoole. Vastly underrated player and great signing. Clut will be devestated

[StannyCFCJET]

Petratos already 5 steps ahead of Hoole. Vastly underrated player and great signing. Clut will be devestated

Yeah im not sure why Clut is under performing aside from the obvious (out of position/in and out of the team.)

[Macca]

Yeah im not sure why Clut is under performing aside from the obvious (out of position/in and out of the team.)

Ironically, I think personally that Clut had his best showings for us when being played as a false 9 / striker. I don't think he has played as well when put in 10 (presumably his favoured position)

[StannyCFCJET]

Ironically, I think personally that Clut had his best showings for us when being played as a false 9 / striker. I don't think he has played as well when put in 10 (presumably his favoured position)

I disagree he's too small to play striker even false nine, We need his runs from deep and his balls in behind to Hoole Nobby and Nabbout.

But he did play well at false nine in perth and at home vs adelaide so who knows

[Tommyjet]

I disagree he's too small to play striker even false nine, We need his runs from deep and his balls in behind to Hoole Nobby and Nabbout.

But he did play well at false nine in perth and at home vs adelaide so who knows
Clut left roar to get out from behind petratos.
Athletically, clut doesn't have the 'engines' jones wants unlike petratos whose work ethic and 'engines' is up there with the best in the comp.

[StannyCFCJET]

Clut left roar to get out from behind petratos.
Athletically, clut doesn't have the 'engines' jones wants unlike petratos whose work ethic and 'engines' is up there with the best in the comp.

Clut seems pretty athletic to me. Are you saying he is more of a sit in the hole and spray passes and shoot when on offer kind of player instead of roam around and create stuff?

[borat]

I disagree he's too small to play striker even false nine, We need his runs from deep and his balls in behind to Hoole Nobby and Nabbout.

But he did play well at false nine in perth and at home vs adelaide so who knows
This

He can get away with false 9 in some games when the opposition don't press, but most teams figure this out.

The guy is a 10 and should be played behind a striker.

But of course we like to isolate our striker upfront by themselves and expect our 10 to sit deep in the midfield for defensive cover. Needs more CB's in the midfield though.

[StannyCFCJET]

But of course we like to isolate our striker upfront by themselves and expect our 10 to sit deep in the midfield for defensive cover. Needs more CB's in the midfield though.

This is why Kokko doesn't work in our system (its why Heskey didnt work as well).

[borat]

This is why Kokko doesn't work in our system (its why Heskey didnt work as well).

If we just did something wild like playing with 2 upfront for a change we actually see some fluency.

[Bon]

Fox Sports reporting now that Petratos is "defecting" to us..

[StannyCFCJET]

If we just did something wild like playing with 2 upfront for a change we actually see some fluency.

Zane did that with Heskey and Taggart and the results speak for themselves

[lil_masi]

Zane did that with Heskey and Taggart and the results speak for themselves

Apparently we've signed both Dimi and Kosta petratos

[q-money]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/brisbane/roar-midfielder-dimitri-petratos-signs-with-newcastle-jets/news-story/f5c5ac4e7f87cacbee36a3d8524adde5

there ya go

[leftrightout]

Apparently we've signed both Dimi and Kosta petratos

Dimi is a pretty solid signing.
Kosta, anyone know anything about him?

[Jeterpool]

Dimi is a pretty solid signing.
Kosta, anyone know anything about him?

A performance Kosta made last year for Perth, I was waiting for him to be Pinto'd.

[lil_masi]

Striker plays for Glory

[Macca]

I disagree he's too small to play striker even false nine, We need his runs from deep and his balls in behind to Hoole Nobby and Nabbout.

But he did play well at false nine in perth and at home vs adelaide so who knows

I don't disagree, I don't think he's a striker either. I was just saying, from his games for us I think that's where he has looked best. He definitely hasn't looked as good in the last month as earlier in the season, there might be something else going on too.

[evanhayes5]

Who??

Joseph Champness I think, I watched training today think it was him.

Seems we're raiding brisbane roar

Petratos, Sawyer, Champness, and potentially a couple of other boys to

[The Camel]

Joseph Champness I think, I watched training today think it was him.

Seems we're raiding brisbane roar

Petratos, Sawyer, Champness, and potentially a couple of other boys to

Hopefully McLaren and Borello

[evanhayes5]

Hopefully McLaren and Borello

I think it will be youth boys.

Apparently Zane has released a fair few of our older sort of youth players.

[Tommyjet]

Clut seems pretty athletic to me. Are you saying he is more of a sit in the hole and spray passes and shoot when on offer kind of player instead of roam around and create stuff?
Don't get me wrong, I see a lot of potential in clut but he is sluggish as they come. He is definitely that sit in a hole type of player and has a good eye for a pass but I fear with more athletic options available under jones we won't see the best of him.

[StannyCFCJET]

Don't get me wrong, I see a lot of potential in clut but he is sluggish as they come. He is definitely that sit in a hole type of player and has a good eye for a pass but I fear with more athletic options available under jones we won't see the best of him.

Should build a team around him. If a high flying team such as Brisbane rate him highly, It would be extremely dumb not to figure out a way to get the best out of him

[MFKS]

**** me

Some of you think of Clut like he the next Zidane

I just see the next Kaz Patafta


He too small to make it in this league

Put him against bigger players and he struggles


Hey Plague now we signed that useless sack of shit in Petratos I take it RAHEEM Sterling has been hooked from free kick duty and secondly we are out of the race for Steve Lustica? ??

[StannyCFCJET]

**** me

Some of you think of Clut like he the next Zidane

I just see the next Kaz Patafta


He too small to make it in this league

Put him against bigger players and he struggles


Hey Plague now we signed that useless sack of shit in Petratos I take it RAHEEM Sterling has been hooked from free kick duty and secondly we are out of the race for Steve Lustica? ??

This too small argument is rubbish. Cahil was given the same stick. How tall is Messi and other world class players. If Clut wants it enough and works hard no reason he cant make a big impact in this league

[MFKS]

This too small argument is rubbish. Cahil was given the same stick. How tall is Messi and other world class players. If Clut wants it enough and works hard no reason he cant make a big impact in this league

Has neither Cahill s work effort or the ability in Messis big toe


If he was any good Roar wood never have let him go

[StannyCFCJET]

Has neither Cahill s work effort or the ability in Messis big toe


If he was any good Roar wood never have let him go

They wanted to keep him so I heard but he said no because he was behind players like broich oar and borello

[Bon]

Has neither Cahill s work effort or the ability in Messis big toe


If he was any good Roar wood never have let him go

You are right, no player that has ever been good has ever left a club...... :gent:

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Hey Plague now we signed that useless sack of shit in Petratos I take it RAHEEM Sterling has been hooked from free kick duty and secondly we are out of the race for Steve Lustica? ??

Petratos is a Jones signing Member. Remember that when he is on the field, good or bad.

You should be praising your new salty milk shushie provider that he's actively targeting players other A-League teams want, not slagging Petratos off before he even arrives.

[lquiquer]

Nothing official from Jerks yet......Don't know what they waiting for?

[Bon]

Petratos us a Jones signing Member. Remember that when he is on the field, good or bad.

You should be praising your new salty milk shushie provider that he's actively targeting players other A-League teams want, not slagging Petratos off before he even arrives.

:lulzturtle:

[StannyCFCJET]

You are right, no player that has ever been good has ever left a club...... :gent:

Bingo every team loses good players. Makes sense Petratos wants to be closer to his family.

[RAM]

**** me

Some of you think of Clut like he the next Zidane

I just see the next Kaz Patafta


He too small to make it in this league

Put him against bigger players and he struggles


Hey Plague now we signed that useless sack of shit in Petratos I take it RAHEEM Sterling has been hooked from free kick duty and secondly we are out of the race for Steve Lustica? ??

x2

Clut is waaaaaaaay overhyped on here

[RAM]

This too small argument is rubbish. Cahil was given the same stick. How tall is Messi and other world class players. If Clut wants it enough and works hard no reason he cant make a big impact in this league

Comparing Clut to Messi lol

[StannyCFCJET]

Comparing Clut to Messi lol
Its just an example cause he was the first small player after Cahil i thought of

[Bon]

Its just an example cause he was the first small player after Cahil i thought of

Dont worry mate, the rest of us knew what you meant..

[The Dunster]

Its just an example cause he was the first small player after Cahil i thought of

I agree.

Zola is even smaller and more successful in two very physical leagues.

In fact a lower centre of gravity and quickness may be an advantage in many respects

[StannyCFCJET]

Zola.

****........................ Im ashamed I forgot about the little Italian Magician

[6ft11]

You are right, no player that has ever been good has ever left a club...... :gent:

100% brother, just like Nathan Burns, Taggs and Goodwin ay?

Please mate, keep the dribble to a minimum

[Jeterpool]

100% brother, just like Nathan Burns, Taggs and Goodwin ay?

Please mate, keep the dribble to a minimum

:gent: means he's taking the piss.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

100% brother, just like Nathan Burns, Taggs and Goodwin ay?

Please mate, keep the dribble to a minimum

Unbelievable, a few weeks ago, everyone was raging because we don't make a move on players before other clubs do, and we end up with the dregs.

We finally move before anyone else does, on a decent signing, for once.. And everyone is shitting on the guy.


Fact is, Brisbane offered him a new deal, we offered a better deal and we're convenient because we're close to his family, so he came here.
Guy is a first 11 player in almost every squad, yet because we sign him, he's an NPL quality player all of a sudden.

:lulzturtle:

P.S Nathan Burns and Goodwin are both playing in better leagues than the Aleague. They actually had to LEAVE a club to go and play for another club. F$%king astonishing.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

:gent: means he's taking the piss.

:rof: :thumbsup:

[Bon]

:gent: means he's taking the piss.

I actually read it that the tall fella was agreeing with my sarcasm..
I was waiting for Captain Obvious to chip in there..

[Hunter403]

Ironically, I think personally that Clut had his best showings for us when being played as a false 9 / striker. I don't think he has played as well when put in 10 (presumably his favoured position)

Agreed

[borat]

Zane did that with Heskey and Taggart and the results speak for themselves

And before that Jeffers and Jesic

[StannyCFCJET]

And before that Jeffers and Jesic

Was that Zane?? and that combo didn't work

[borat]

Was that Zane?? and that combo didn't work

I didn't say it was Zane, I was referring to the so few times this club ever plays 2 up front. And didn't work???, you have got to be kidding. First coming of Jeffers made Jesic look lethal.....and that takes some doing

[StannyCFCJET]

All I remember of Jeffers was missing sitters and Jesic lethal?? nope no way never

[borat]

All I remember of Jeffers was missing sitters and Jesic lethal?? nope no way never

How does Jesic scoring 3 goals in Jeffers first 3 games sound, or 4 goals in 6 games? Jesic was a hack but in Jeffers first guest stint 2010/11(played 9 of 10 games from memory) he made Jesic look lethal. Jesic only scored 6 goals for the Jets and 4 were in Jeffers guest stint.

Jeffers second stint was decidedly different.

[Jeterpool]

Was that Zane?? and that combo didn't work

That's crap. Jesic pretty much only played well/scored when Franny was on the field. That was a massive bro-mance right there.

[StannyCFCJET]

That's crap. Jesic pretty much only played well/scored when Franny was on the field. That was a massive bro-mance right there.

I swear they had a whole season together we didnt score that many?? Happy to admit im wrong and concede

[borat]

I swear they had a whole season together we didnt score that many?? Happy to admit im wrong and concede

That was 2011/12. 2010/11 was the guest stint where they played very well together

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Petratos here on 3 year deal.

Good to see Jones isn't worried about leaving the next manager (probably next season) his shit signings (I actually think Petratos is a good signing, but no one should be on more than 2 year deals).

[StannyCFCJET]

Petratos here on 3 year deal.

Good to see Jones isn't worried about leaving the next manager (probably next season) his shit signings (I actually think Petratos is a good signing, but no one should be on more than 2 year deals).

Have the jerks announced it?

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Have the jerks announced it?

Brisbane announced, article says Petratos will join Newcastle Jets for the Hyundai A-League 2017/18 season on a three-year contract.

http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/petratos-heads-south-at-seasons-end-for-family-reasons/15edutj9tv9df1nfl4jargo1eh

[StannyCFCJET]

Brisbane announced, article says Petratos will join Newcastle Jets for the Hyundai A-League 2017/18 season on a three-year contract.

http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/petratos-heads-south-at-seasons-end-for-family-reasons/15edutj9tv9df1nfl4jargo1eh

Cheers

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Have the jerks announced it?

Why you always question what I say... Every bloody time. I cri ere time. :redcard:

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/confirmed-petratos-brothers-headed-for-the-hunter/k0m3bh2n6o0n15607pubzuyjo

And the announcement, we have both Petratos brothers.. Two for One special?

[StannyCFCJET]

Why you always question what I say... Every bloody time. I cri ere time. :redcard:

I didnt question the truth was just wondering cause I hadn't seen anything from the jerks and then of course Brisbane beat us to announcing it

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I didnt question the truth was just wondering cause I hadn't seen anything from the jerks and then of course Brisbane beat us to announcing it

Normally courtesy to let the club the player is leaving announce the departure first.. Otherwise fans get upset "our club didnt announce it first" etc...

[Jetmaster]

So far Roar fan reaction is one of disappointment but not anger - they are wondering how cashed up we must be if we outbid Roar.

This one is interesting:


Well looks like Devante Cluts days might be numbered.
Even heard his manager (andy harper) on fox say he needs to lift his game on sunday.
Cant play football if you cant run.

[MFKS]

Petratos is a Jones signing Member. Remember that when he is on the field, good or bad.

You should be praising your new salty milk shushie provider that he's actively targeting players other A-League teams want, not slagging Petratos off before he even arrives.

I expecting some better signings than that though.

It is though some positive that we are actually trying to sign HAL starting level players for a change rather than novices or others rubbish

I don't rate Petratos that high but he would be a worthy addition to all HAL squads

Moving Forward

[plague]

Patratos is trash and garbage. Looks like the kind of bloke that would wear Adam Griffiths t-shirts.
Typical Middleby nonsense.

Don't worry he'll be out here kissing the badge as he skies another one into Goninans so you lot can be chuffed he's playing for the shirt.

Meanwhile Johnny K is just gonna walk and no one cares until he's playing for the Socceroos and erryones like "man how did we let him go?"

[Jetmaster]

So now we're the cashed up bad guys playing the cap and pinching players!

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-salary-cap-punishes-success-says-ante-covic-after-dimitri-petratoss-move/news-story/2cbb8e49b61406439cb6b2c0b8068361

[The Dunster]

http://img.medscapestatic.com/pi/meds/ckb/82/21282tn.jpg

You just know it's going to happen before he arrives or in the pre-season.

[baldrick]

http://img.medscapestatic.com/pi/meds/ckb/82/21282tn.jpg

You just know it's going to happen before he arrives or in the pre-season.


Nasty.

[monz6]

Petratos here on 3 year deal.

Good to see Jones isn't worried about leaving the next manager (probably next season) his shit signings (I actually think Petratos is a good signing, but no one should be on more than 2 year deals).

Great input

[redwah]

Nasty.

I've seen worse.

[lquiquer]

What number is Dimi going to wear next year?.....23?.....:roflz:

[parksey]

Petratos already 5 steps ahead of Hoole. Vastly underrated player and great signing. Clut will be devestated

Yep he's quality. Top signing, I'm stoked.

[The Dunster]

I've seen worse.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5220/1342/400/princess_bride_280.jpg

[borat]

Of our 3 x u20's, only Bymora is on a 1 year contract. You would think that Kosta Petratos, at 18 years of age, will take Bymora's position in the squad for 17/18

[Jeterpool]

Who are the others again? Alessi and?

[baldrick]

I've seen worse.

You've had worse !

[borat]

Who are the others again? Alessi and?

Vujica

[borat]

Interesting statements from Jones in the press this morning that we would like to extend the contracts of Nabbout and Hoole, providing Hoole doesn't go overseas.

Not sure if that's an indication that Hoole is heading overseas and Dimi Petratos is his replacement, or the Jets do want to extend his Hoole's contract and Dimi is going to play #10.

If Dimi is to play #10 and we still sign the striker Jones bangs on about needing, where that leaves Nordstrand will be interesting.

[Tommyjet]

Interesting statements from Jones in the press this morning that we would like to extend the contracts of Nabbout and Hoole, providing Hoole doesn't go overseas.

Not sure if that's an indication that Hoole is heading overseas and Dimi Petratos is his replacement, or the Jets do want to extend his Hoole's contract and Dimi is going to play #10.

If Dimi is to play #10 and we still sign the striker Jones bangs on about needing, where that leaves Nordstrand will be interesting.

Next season, super sub at best. A top line striker will be a must.

[redwah]

You've had worse !

Haha...regularly it feels like most days.

[hawk]

So now we're the cashed up bad guys playing the cap and pinching players!

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-salary-cap-punishes-success-says-ante-covic-after-dimitri-petratoss-move/news-story/2cbb8e49b61406439cb6b2c0b8068361

We buy ONE player who has some sort of name and the Aleague is in meltdown. get fkd Aleague community, yall a bunch of cunce

[borat]

Next season, super sub at best. A top line striker will be a must.

Now that Petratos is signed for 3 years, ideally we keep Hoole, Petratos plays #10, sign a striker (hopefully foreign and not Bridge), resign Nordstrand to play off the bench and find another club for Kokko back in Norway, either on loan/transfer/release

[borat]

We buy ONE player who has some sort of name and the Aleague is in meltdown. get fkd Aleague community, yall a bunch of cunce

Raiding Brisbane after all their success in recent years.........

[lquiquer]

We buy ONE player who has some sort of name and the Aleague is in meltdown. get fkd Aleague community, yall a bunch of cunce

Good, makes them talk about us showing ambition. But only was a small step, need bigger names to join the ship.......
Meltdown: we want a cataclysm.......

[The Dunster]

Now that Petratos is signed for 3 years, ideally we keep Hoole, Petratos plays #10, sign a striker (hopefully foreign and not Bridge), resign Nordstrand to play off the bench and find another club for Kokko back in Norway, either on loan/transfer/release

Andy Keogh will be turning 31 in a few months is that too old ? Or is he worth going after ?

[Jetmaster]

The Hoole one year deal was a great idea - get him working to see if he has earned more. If he turned to shit, back to Magic.

Nobody else in the A-League will take him just yet - his agent will use O/S to try to bump up his fee.

TBH he would be mad to go over there now.

[rhysd]

Noddy off the bench next season.

Need a top line striker, quick and clinical.

Nabbout/dimi/brown/ Hoole not bad depth. Can't see us keeping leilei, good to keep if Hoole does leave

[MFKS]

Seriously you want to keep Nordstrand just to fill the bench.?

Waste a Visa spot on an injury prone getting old fast player???

FMD

That ain't how we make semis finals

It is actually having the balls to say to Nordstrand thanks and goodbye

Just as we need to be doing to Kanta BK Hoffman Poljak etc then go out and sign better options

Sentiment needs to be left at the ****ing door

[rhysd]

Noddy only needs 30 mins to win games.

But fair point, a foreigner spot should be reserved for a full 90 min player.

Mullen kanta bk prob won't be offered contracts. Poljak, as an Aussie citizen, would be worth having around in the squad.

[furns]

Seriously you want to keep Nordstrand just to fill the bench.?

Waste a Visa spot on an injury prone getting old fast player???

FMD

That ain't how we make semis finals

It is actually having the balls to say to Nordstrand thanks and goodbye

Just as we need to be doing to Kanta BK Hoffman Poljak etc then go out and sign better options

Sentiment needs to be left at the ****ing door
Made this point on the podcast.
It's taken Nobby ages to get to a suitable level after preseason, and he still only looks decent as a sub. My thoughts are that Dimi is being signed to replace Nobby as he will be out of contract, Kokko still has a year to run on his.

[plague]

My issue with Petratos is that he was pretty much always the 'worst' player in that Brisbane front third. Teams had to worry about Broich, Corona, McKay, McClaren heck even Henrique more than him so he always found himself in loads of space (moreso Broich and Corona creating space for him).

But now we are either signing him to create for others (as a #10) or as another winger who now doesn't have anyone to create for him. I just don't see how that guy can make our team better doing either of those roles.

So until we sign a true #10, and Ooga Booga becomes Corona/Isaias, he ain't fixing anything.

Happy Australia Day.

[borat]

Made this point on the podcast.
It's taken Nobby ages to get to a suitable level after preseason, and he still only looks decent as a sub. My thoughts are that Dimi is being signed to replace Nobby as he will be out of contract, Kokko still has a year to run on his.

The contract length won't make a difference. Considering Kokko was the leading goal scorer in Finland 2 seasons ago I doubt he will be difficult to sell/loan back to a Finnish club if need be.

Nordstrand is being played out of position and still doing a decent job of it. Nordstrand also had significant surgery in the off season to his hip hence the slow start. He isn't a front line striker but is still a very handy player. Should be re-signed as will be an important player once we fail to sign Mark Bridge again.

If we are going to talk about a waste of visa spot then Leilei and Poljak are first cabs off that rank.

[furns]

Poljak will be an aussie citizen by the end of February apparently, so he should remain.
Leilei I agree will be heading back to China - hopefully for some coin.
I think Nobby's age is going to be the hindrance in resigning him. He will be 34 in June, Kokko will turn 30 in the same month. However I also think Kokko will need to show more before the end of the season to warrant persevering with for another year.

[turbojetfireV8]

Andy Keogh will be turning 31 in a few months is that too old ? Or is he worth going after ?

If we sign O'Donovan can't see us going after Keogh as well, unless we offload both Nobby and the Kokk to facilitate it, then again...

[lquiquer]

Poljak will be an aussie citizen by the end of February apparently, so he should remain.


As per CEO on 13/1/2017: "all supporting paperwork done but no word when he will get his citizenship"

[borat]

Poljak will be an aussie citizen by the end of February apparently, so he should remain.
Leilei I agree will be heading back to China - hopefully for some coin.
I think Nobby's age is going to be the hindrance in resigning him. He will be 34 in June, Kokko will turn 30 in the same month. However I also think Kokko will need to show more before the end of the season to warrant persevering with for another year.

At least one of Kokko of Nordstrand won't be here next year, that's for certain. So I would agree that should Kokko not be moved on then its Nordstrand to go.

But my strong suspicion is that we won't see another minute of Kokko this year. Jones doesn't like him and will try and freeze him out in the hope that he wants to move on. Jones said in the presser he wants to see more game time for Sawyer and IMO that's who will take Kokko's limited minutes.

For mine Nordstrand is insurance. For as long as I can remember the Jets have never had a full Visa quota of players who actually turned up to be starting players. Yes that's what you want but it never works out. There is always 1 or 2 duds at least. With Nordstrand he can play multiple positions, can score goals, and is not divisive. Should new striker or Petratos not work out then Nordstrand is more than capable, and as a sub he is outstanding. IMO striker is the one position you can afford to have a bench Visa player.

Just my 2c

[Tommyjet]

Andy Keogh will be turning 31 in a few months is that too old ? Or is he worth going after ?
He is a young 30.

[Jetmaster]

But my strong suspicion is that we won't see another minute of Kokko this year. Jones doesn't like him and will try and freeze him out in the hope that he wants to move on. Jones said in the presser he wants to see more game time for Sawyer and IMO that's who will take Kokko's limited minutes.


http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4429123/kokkos-future-with-jets-up-in-the-air/?cs=303

Kudos.....

[furns]

At least one of Kokko of Nordstrand won't be here next year, that's for certain. So I would agree that should Kokko not be moved on then its Nordstrand to go.

But my strong suspicion is that we won't see another minute of Kokko this year. Jones doesn't like him and will try and freeze him out in the hope that he wants to move on. Jones said in the presser he wants to see more game time for Sawyer and IMO that's who will take Kokko's limited minutes.

For mine Nordstrand is insurance. For as long as I can remember the Jets have never had a full Visa quota of players who actually turned up to be starting players. Yes that's what you want but it never works out. There is always 1 or 2 duds at least. With Nordstrand he can play multiple positions, can score goals, and is not divisive. Should new striker or Petratos not work out then Nordstrand is more than capable, and as a sub he is outstanding. IMO striker is the one position you can afford to have a bench Visa player.

Just my 2cgood points, well made.
With the above article highlighting that Kokko is clearly being frozen out by Jones, what you say is pretty much bang on.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Kokko depart after being released from his deal before the end of the season, however I would prefer we try to get a transfer fee for him before the window closes though if Jones has closed the door on him.
I would also not be surprised if Nobby also departs in the offseason, but I will add I think that Lawrie will hedge his bets and only let him go if other offseason recruitment targets don't eventuate.

[MFKS]

good points, well made.
With the above article highlighting that Kokko is clearly being frozen out by Jones, what you say is pretty much bang on.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Kokko depart after being released from his deal before the end of the season, however I would prefer we try to get a transfer fee for him before the window closes though if Jones has closed the door on him.
I would also not be surprised if Nobby also departs in the offseason, but I will add I think that Lawrie will hedge his bets and only let him go if other offseason recruitment targets don't eventuate.

Have it on pretty good authority from someone working at the club that Kokko isn't rated by Jones period.
It not just his recent contributions that have been the issue.

I know he not playing much lately but he doesn't even look sharp or even look like he busting his arse trying

Reminds me so much of a piss poor Mark Viduka

V Bomber on his day was world class

Most days he was just a lazy waste of talent


Kokko if he ever showed us one of these days probably be same same


Triff was 5 times as lazy but 1000 times more effective

[evanhayes5]

Have it on pretty good authority from someone working at the club that Kokko isn't rated by Jones period.
It not just his recent contributions that have been the issue.

I know he not playing much lately but he doesn't even look sharp or even look like he busting his arse trying

Reminds me so much of a piss poor Mark Viduka

V Bomber on his day was world class

Most days he was just a lazy waste of talent


Kokko if he ever showed us one of these days probably be same same


Triff was 5 times as lazy but 1000 times more effective

Pretty much this, the guy cant run. Has no pace or physical presence about him.

Also with us signing Shabow I think Clut's time is also coming close to an end as well.

[Jeterpool]

I am pretty impressed with the Dimitri Petratos signing. I think that a 3 year length is a risk, but we've made a signing that would be a starter at most other clubs.

For me, it poses an interesting question about where he will fit, given how we currently play. I think his arrival signals the departure of both Poljak and Kantarovski. While many on here disagree about their respective quality, we will have 5 midfielders that would expect to start (Poljak, Ugarkovic, Brown, Petratos, Kantarovski). I think we will see a Midfield with one holder next year - Ugarkovic (though I don't think that role is the best use of his ability). Ahead of him will be Brown and Petratos with Clut as an option to replace them from the bench.

I can't see Petratos playing wide, nor ahead of Hoole or Nabbout as it stands.

I guess, perhaps, Dimi could be the signing to replace one of those above because they are heading overseas. In which case, we may see one of those off contract retained.

Kosta Petratos I've not watched him play since a game last year where he was brought on and had a very difficult time. Touch was off, pass was off, couldn't dribble - I fully expected he was going to be Pinto'd. Will be watching a bit closer now.

[Hunter403]

Agreed Jeterpool. Jones said he didn't want players with injury issues. Kanta gone on that basis

[Wilso8948]

I think he'll keep poljak provided his citizenship clears

[Jeterpool]

I think he'll keep poljak provided his citizenship clears

That makes sense and he may want to keep Poljak, but will Poljak want to stay if he isn't a guaranteed starter? Just looking from a player point of view.

[borat]

That makes sense and he may want to keep Poljak, but will Poljak want to stay if he isn't a guaranteed starter? Just looking from a player point of view.

Depends on how much $$$$ Poljak is on. I can see Brown taking the starting position of Poljak next year. Will be surprised if both Kantarovski and Poljak survive. Kanta has an edge considering he can support CB.

[borat]

Pretty much this, the guy cant run. Has no pace or physical presence about him.

Also with us signing Shabow I think Clut's time is also coming close to an end as well.

Clut is on a 2 year deal though.

[evanhayes5]

Clut is on a 2 year deal though.

What are deals in the A-league worth?

[Wilso8948]

I can't see kanta surviving. This was his make or break.. year in my opinion. Pardon the pun.
Poljak I think would be good value for money I can't see him earning huge dollars. I think he'd be happy being a fringe starter and obviously likes Aus.
I think Clut certainly has potential. He is a work in progress and has seen much more game time then I expected down here due to our injuries. I think he'll be better for the year. He was hardly cracking brisbanes squad and now he's a fringe starter. He has some great vision on the pitch and is still very young. Keeping all these guys on board and can honestly see a long term plan at the jets. Young players mixed with some experienced heads.
Duncan, vujica, Jackson, ugarkovic, Hoole, Nabbout, clut and petratos. That's a pretty decent makeup in 2/3 years time if these guys live up to their potential

[Jeterpool]

Depends on how much $$$$ Poljak is on. I can see Brown taking the starting position of Poljak next year. Will be surprised if both Kantarovski and Poljak survive. Kanta has an edge considering he can support CB.

Kanta also qualifies for the percentage of his wage to be exempt from the cap because of his length of service to the club - another thing working for him. I still don't think we will re-sign him and I think he will move on.

I remember we tried to play Brown and Ugarkovic together a few times this season and it didn't work. However there's nothing to say it can't in the future, but both of their games, naturally, seems to be looking to push forward where-as Poljak is comfotable sitting and roving.

And more-so it's not what Poljak is on now, but what he is demanding for his next contract. But still, if Poljak doesn't see himself being a guaranteed starter he may question whether he wants to remain.

[Jeterpool]

I can't see kanta surviving. This was his make or break.. year in my opinion. Pardon the pun.
Poljak I think would be good value for money I can't see him earning huge dollars. I think he'd be happy being a fringe starter and obviously likes Aus.
I think Clut certainly has potential. He is a work in progress and has seen much more game time then I expected down here due to our injuries. I think he'll be better for the year. He was hardly cracking brisbanes squad and now he's a fringe starter. He has some great vision on the pitch and is still very young. Keeping all these guys on board and can honestly see a long term plan at the jets. Young players mixed with some experienced heads.
Duncan, vujica, Jackson, ugarkovic, Hoole, Nabbout, clut and petratos. That's a pretty decent makeup in 2/3 years time if these guys live up to their potential

Clut has played wide in the past as well. It would be interesting to see how he could adapt to this position.

[The Dunster]

What are deals in the A-league worth?

Clut would be on around $60k per season - based on what the minimum is and how the Jets always find a way to pay more than they have to.

[Tommyjet]

Kanta also qualifies for the percentage of his wage to be exempt from the cap because of his length of service to the club - another thing working for him. I still don't think we will re-sign him and I think he will move on.

I remember we tried to play Brown and Ugarkovic together a few times this season and it didn't work. However there's nothing to say it can't in the future, but both of their games, naturally, seems to be looking to push forward where-as Poljak is comfotable sitting and roving.

And more-so it's not what Poljak is on now, but what he is demanding for his next contract. But still, if Poljak doesn't see himself being a guaranteed starter he may question whether he wants to remain.
In my opinion brown and ugarkovic should be competing for the one spot and we should be targeting a top defensive mid like an isais (re-signed so not happening), someone who can control that midfield and allow brown or ugarkovic to push further forward.

[borat]

Kanta also qualifies for the percentage of his wage to be exempt from the cap because of his length of service to the club - another thing working for him. I still don't think we will re-sign him and I think he will move on.

I remember we tried to play Brown and Ugarkovic together a few times this season and it didn't work. However there's nothing to say it can't in the future, but both of their games, naturally, seems to be looking to push forward where-as Poljak is comfotable sitting and roving.

And more-so it's not what Poljak is on now, but what he is demanding for his next contract. But still, if Poljak doesn't see himself being a guaranteed starter he may question whether he wants to remain.

Poljak won't start for any other HAL team. If he wants to remain as a professional player in Australia he will take a pay cut and be happy with a squad role.

I don't buy the theory that Brown can't play as an 8. Yes we lost when he played there but we also had no movement further up the park and plenty of injuries if I remember. With a decent striker infront Brown has the talent and engines that Poljak doesn't. Petratos is coming to play #10 so Brown needs to move further back and certainly not wide.

[borat]

In my opinion brown and ugarkovic should be competing for the one spot and we should be targeting a top defensive mid like an isais (re-signed so not happening), someone who can control that midfield and allow brown or ugarkovic to push further forward.

Not bad thinking but would leave Ugarkovic on the pine permanently imo. We should have more faith that Ugarkovic will grow into the role

[borat]

The home grown bonus and loyalty bonuses are irrelevant when we aren't using the designated (marquee) player positions.

The Jets work on a budget and regardless of which supplement we use we stay within it.

What I mean is there should be no consideration for Kanta being on the loyalty bonus if we aren't using the designated players. Both are outside the cap.

[The Dunster]

I'd sign Kanta for $65k a season - but no more. And given what's on offer in Thailand and so on there's no way he would stay for that sort of money.
If the club were to offer him even $100k a season it would be a massive mistake.

[Jeterpool]

In my opinion brown and ugarkovic should be competing for the one spot and we should be targeting a top defensive mid like an isais (re-signed so not happening), someone who can control that midfield and allow brown or ugarkovic to push further forward.

I agree with you about the holding mid.

I personally think in the next 12-18 months we will see Ugarkovic head overseas so perhaps we are anicipating that in our decision making.

[Jeterpool]

Poljak won't start for any other HAL team. If he wants to remain as a professional player in Australia he will take a pay cut and be happy with a squad role.

I don't buy the theory that Brown can't play as an 8. Yes we lost when he played there but we also had no movement further up the park and plenty of injuries if I remember. With a decent striker infront Brown has the talent and engines that Poljak doesn't. Petratos is coming to play #10 so Brown needs to move further back and certainly not wide.

I think Poljak would start for the Mariners and Nix.

I think Brown can play as an 8 as well (definitely not wide - I agree). Where I was trying to go was saying that both Ugarkovic and Brown (both who I see as an 8) would leave us a bit more exposed because they want to move forward naturally as a part of their game.

[Jeterpool]

The home grown bonus and loyalty bonuses are irrelevant when we aren't using the designated (marquee) player positions.

The Jets work on a budget and regardless of which supplement we use we stay within it.

What I mean is there should be no consideration for Kanta being on the loyalty bonus if we aren't using the designated players. Both are outside the cap.

I think I can see where you're coming from. You're saying if we have $X to spend outside the cap, we should be prioritising it towards a marquee instead of using it to fund other places outside the cap like the loyalty bonus or NPL player?

[Tommyjet]

Not bad thinking but would leave Ugarkovic on the pine permanently imo. We should have more faith that Ugarkovic will grow into the role
Brown could also play behind the striker aswell but I'm sick of hearing people worry about too much competition for places. We need competition for places.
Let's say hoole re-signs and is playing dross again at the start of next season but we have better back up options like replacing him with petratos and moving brown up to attacking mid and bringing ugarkovic in at 8.

[borat]

I think I can see where you're coming from. You're saying if we have $X to spend outside the cap, we should be prioritising it towards a marquee instead of using it to fund other places outside the cap like the loyalty bonus or NPL player?

Was more saying that just because Kanta has been here for years it shouldn't influence our decision to sign him as long as we don't use marquees. We are going to spend X amount on players whichever outside cap allowance we use.

If we had used all our cap and signing Kanta allowed us to move 150k outside the cap, we could alternatively make Boogaard a marquee and move his 300k outside the cap.

Using the loyalty allowance isn't such a draw card as it would be for SFC who use all of them and can access an extra 150k they wouldn't be able to otherwise.

[borat]

NPL player has the added benefit of a 24th squad member, as opposed to the others that come within the 23

[Jeterpool]

Was more saying that just because Kanta has been here for years it shouldn't influence our decision to sign him as long as we don't use marquees. We are going to spend X amount on players whichever outside cap allowance we use.

If we had used all our cap and signing Kanta allowed us to move 150k outside the cap, we could alternatively make Boogaard a marquee and move his 300k outside the cap.

Using the loyalty allowance isn't such a draw card as it would be for SFC who use all of them and can access an extra 150k they wouldn't be able to otherwise.

Cheers, thanks for clearing that up :thumbsup:

[Mark325]

Jets need to start using all the outside the cap allowances at our disposal, teams like Sydney and Victory do it every season and it's part of the key to how they're so successful

Also saw in the article about Kokko not getting much game time they mentioned signing some more young players, all for signing youth but hopefully jones doesn't go to all in on young unproven kids

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Jets need to start using all the outside the cap allowances at our disposal, teams like Sydney and Victory do it every season and it's part of the key to how they're so successful

Also saw in the article about Kokko not getting much game time they mentioned signing some more young players, all for signing youth but hopefully jones doesn't go to all in on young unproven kids

For anyone interested, it said Mark Moric was signed, and a deal with Mario Shabow is close.

[The Dunster]

For anyone interested, it said Mark Moric was signed, and a deal with Mario Shabow is close.

I hope that's a youth contract and not an A-League one ? Otherwise we are just rolling the dice /developing talent for Sydney FC and so on. Because if any of these kids show they are ready the bigger clubs will snap them up very fast. And if they don't make the grade , which is the usual case - the jets waste time and money on a lottery when they could have simply paid for a proven player instead - for less money in the long run.

[borat]

Moric is 17 so you would hope it's NYL. Shabow is on a senior deal at WSW so it would be a senior deal for us as well

[Macca]

On this topic, why are transfer fees not allowed in the league? I don't see what the point is. Transfers still happen, but the original club just gets screwed and the existing contracts are "mutually terminated". Can anyone shed some light?

[Tommyjet]

Moric is 17 so you would hope it's NYL. Shabow is on a senior deal at WSW so it would be a senior deal for us as well
Surprised we haven't seen more of shabow for west Sydney. I remember seeing him against the mariners and he certainly had some skill and also aggression beyond his small stature.

[The Dunster]

The question that needs to be asked is why don't WSW wish to retain Shabow ? Considering their lack of goal scorers that should be a signal for the jets to run a mile. Add to that only on 1 year deal at WSW and only had one appearance - and that was against the Gypos.

Lets hope he came very cheap.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

The question that needs to be asked is why don't WSW wish to retain Shabow ? Considering their lack of goal scorers that should be a signal for the jets to run a mile. Add to that only on 1 year deal at WSW and only had one appearance - and that was against the Gypos.

Lets hope he came very cheap.

Who says they dont want to retain him? Brisbane wanted to retain Dimi and we won over

[halo se7en]

The question that needs to be asked is why don't WSW wish to retain Shabow ? Considering their lack of goal scorers that should be a signal for the jets to run a mile. Add to that only on 1 year deal at WSW and only had one appearance - and that was against the Gypos.

Lets hope he came very cheap.

And Nabbout was basically an outcast at MV ;)

[hawk]

And Nabbout was basically an outcast at MV ;)

for once we have an amazing turn around in form in our favour.

[MFKS]

And Nabbout was basically an outcast at MV ;)

Mainly down to the fact he was at a club that signs players of calibre every season

Ben Kalfallah
Berisha
Troisi
Rojas
Valeri
Del Pierre
Bozanic


They constantly bringing in quality experienced players.

Not likely a young kid is going to come through and get enough sustained opportunities to succeed unless they are top shelf talent themselves

Who have the Tards really developed over the years??

Broxham??
Thomas??
Geria??

Not thinking of many others whom have come through the club

[OmeletteDuFromage]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4429510/jets-teenager-off-to-portugal/?cs=306


Jets youth team midfielder Antonee Burke will be on a plane to Portugal on Saturday as the first beneficiary of owner Martin Lee’s plan to develop players overseas.

Burke, 19, has signed an 18-month scholarship with the Jets and will be sent on loan to Academica until June in the Portuguese second-division, which Lee’s Ledman Group sponsors. He will play with the club’s reserve team.

“He will come back to us a better player, and it will be a great experience for him,” Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna said.

Burke was picked in a national under-13 team and trialed once at Aston Villa, but injuries and late physical development had hampered his career until recently.

“Injuries came and I lost confidence. I just got back from a big injury at the end of 2015 and haven’t been injured since, so my confidence is high,” the Emerging Jets graduate said. “Hopefully going to Portugal can help me try to get back into one of the national teams.”

Former Roar youth winger Joe Champness, 19, will join Burke in Portugal after the Young Socceroo also signed an 18-month Jets scholarship. Another Roar youth forward, Harry Sawyer, who made his senior Jets debut against Wanderers last week, and Joeys striker Mark Moric, the son of ex-Sydney United midfielder Ante Moric, have also signed scholarships.

The Jets had hoped to play Sawyer in their youth team in the Northern NSW NPL, but he is one day too old.

The Jets have also expressed interest in signing 18-year-old Wanderers and Young Socceroos striker Mario Shabow.

[hawk]

Sounds alright for those kids.

Sawyer is not ready for the bigs, get him off for a while.

[R Ramjet]

I just cant see Martin Lee spending any decent money outside the cap for a decent player. Marquee player/players are surely in the plans for next season if he wants the club to improve and grow

[redwah]

Mainly down to the fact he was at a club that signs players of calibre every season

Ben Kalfallah
Berisha
Troisi
Rojas
Valeri
Del Pierre
Bozanic


They constantly bringing in quality experienced players.

Not likely a young kid is going to come through and get enough sustained opportunities to succeed unless they are top shelf talent themselves

Who have the Tards really developed over the years??

Broxham??
Thomas??
Geria??

Not thinking of many others whom have come through the club

I wonder how they manage that.....?

[white city]

I wonder how they manage that.....?

If melbourne had a good manager. They would absolutely dominate the competition with that squad

[The Dunster]

If melbourne had a good manager. They would absolutely dominate the competition with that squad

I doubt it. Their lack of speed is being exploited and they have a marquee who is no longer a dominant force. Meanwhile, they haven't found a play-maker to replace the one they lost and their star Uruguayan striker is not getting the service he requires.
The problem is not the manager - it's the fact they don't have the right player mix.
On an individual basis sure they have good players - but as a team and with respect to value for money - they have fooked up deluxe.

[parksey]

I doubt it. Their lack of speed is being exploited and they have a marquee who is no longer a dominant force. Meanwhile, they haven't found a play-maker to replace the one they lost and their star Uruguayan striker is not getting the service he requires.
The problem is not the manager - it's the fact they don't have the right player mix.
On an individual basis sure they have good players - but as a team and with respect to value for money - they have fooked up deluxe.

I think he was talking about Victory.

For what it's worth, I think Muscat is one of the better coaches in this league.

[Wilso8948]

Haha I was like berisha not a dominant force? Whaaa?

[turbojetfireV8]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4429510/jets-teenager-off-to-portugal/?cs=306

Sounds a promising move by Lee to give the kids a taste of European football, I assume he does this with Chinese kids as well?

[The Dunster]

I think he was talking about Victory.

For what it's worth, I think Muscat is one of the better coaches in this league.

Right you are, I was thinking Melb City. I agree. Muscat, like him or not is a leader. Much like Sir Alex in that players fear him and want to do well for him.

[StannyCFCJET]

I think he was talking about Victory.

For what it's worth, I think Muscat is one of the better coaches in this league.

Your kidding right? Muscat has no idea. Relies on his best players using their ability and when it doesnt work or other teams change tactics mid game I.E Sydney last Thursday he has no idea and gets found out easily

[MFKS]

Your kidding right? Muscat has no idea. Relies on his best players using their ability and when it doesnt work or other teams change tactics mid game I.E Sydney last Thursday he has no idea and gets found out easily

I agree with you there.

You put Muscat in charge of Victory spending the minimum end of salary cap without the big $$ marquees and running a disorganised club like Jets Gypos Nix etc and see how he would go

I reckon he would really ****ing struggle.

His management career is taking over the biggest club in the country with a well developed squad on the brink of success that Ange had built and since then he has managed to jag 1 ****ing title and he most likely will end up empty this year as well

[parksey]

Your kidding right? Muscat has no idea. Relies on his best players using their ability and when it doesnt work or other teams change tactics mid game I.E Sydney last Thursday he has no idea and gets found out easily


I agree with you there.

You put Muscat in charge of Victory spending the minimum end of salary cap without the big $$ marquees and running a disorganised club like Jets Gypos Nix etc and see how he would go

I reckon he would really ****ing struggle.

His management career is taking over the biggest club in the country with a well developed squad on the brink of success that Ange had built and since then he has managed to jag 1 ****ing title and he most likely will end up empty this year as well

So, basically he's not a good coach because he relies on his best players to play well and because his club has more money than some others.

Take away the fact he is clearly a great motivator, his sides consistently play the best football in the league and have won multiple titles. Sure some of his success came with a squad that had a few key players brought in by Ange (Finkler and Barbarouses namely), but Ange's Victory sides were a bit underwhelming really.

[monz6]

I agree with you there.

You put Muscat in charge of Victory spending the minimum end of salary cap without the big $$ marquees and running a disorganised club like Jets Gypos Nix etc and see how he would go

I reckon he would really ****ing struggle.

His management career is taking over the biggest club in the country with a well developed squad on the brink of success that Ange had built and since then he has managed to jag 1 ****ing title and he most likely will end up empty this year as well

Wait so there are blokes who would come here and coach us and not struggle?! Who are they and where do we find them

[plague]

Wait so there are blokes who would come here and coach us and not struggle?! Who are they and where do we find them

Venables.
A done deal except you lot drove Con out.

You deserve Jones.
Be grateful.

[StannyCFCJET]

So, basically he's not a good coach because he relies on his best players to play well and because his club has more money than some others.

Take away the fact he is clearly a great motivator, his sides consistently play the best football in the league and have won multiple titles. Sure some of his success came with a squad that had a few key players brought in by Ange (Finkler and Barbarouses namely), but Ange's Victory sides were a bit underwhelming really.

What has he changed since Ange took over they play the same style almost and where is he plan B. Sydney brought on ibini and started playing more direct balls in behind and muscat did nothing, add this to Sydney's defence easily handling victorys attack most of the night so where was the change in style or tactics to get around this. Put Muscat in charge of a squad like us or Mariners and he would struggle big time. Being Passionate and Fiery only gets you so far you need to combine this with football coaching smarts and tactical nous.

[StannyCFCJET]

What has he changed since Ange took over they play the same style almost and where is he plan B. Sydney brought on ibini and started playing more direct balls in behind and muscat did nothing, add this to Sydney's defence easily handling victorys attack most of the night so where was the change in style or tactics to get around this. Put Muscat in charge of a squad like us or Mariners and he would struggle big time. Being Passionate and Fiery only gets you so far you need to combine this with football coaching smarts and tactical nous.

Ill give further example, look at Okon in charge of the Gypos with the worst squad in the league. At times he has them playing (hurts to admit it) some good football to watch. Give him the squad Muscat has and we'd see some exciting times for the a league IMO

[MFKS]

What has he changed since Ange took over they play the same style almost and where is he plan B. Sydney brought on ibini and started playing more direct balls in behind and muscat did nothing, add this to Sydney's defence easily handling victorys attack most of the night so where was the change in style or tactics to get around this. Put Muscat in charge of a squad like us or Mariners and he would struggle big time. Being Passionate and Fiery only gets you so far you need to combine this with football coaching smarts and tactical nous.

Truth bombs everywhere

[StannyCFCJET]

Truth bombs everywhere

Ive been known to say intelligent stuff from time to time (very rarely though :rof:)

[Wilso8948]

Ive been known to say intelligent stuff from time to time (very rarely though :rof:)

It's not intelligent if the member is agreeing with you

[StannyCFCJET]

It's not intelligent if the member is agreeing with you

Ouch :blink:

[The Dunster]

I think if put Muscat in charge of the Jets we'd have a surplus of ex A-league players joining the NNSWPL competition.
He wouldn't accept 2nd best.
As far as only managing a quality team with plenty of money that's not always easier either.
There is a lot less pressure at clubs like the Jets and Mariners than at the Melbourne or Sydney clubs. There would also be a lot less ego to contend with at the smaller clubs as well.
I'm not saying tactical issues aren't important but the further up the ladder you go it really becomes as much about man management as it does tactics. Higher paid players also have a lot more influence as well. Look at someone like ETO as an extreme example with respect to his national team - he essentially ran the team at all levels so great was his influence on the sport.

[MFKS]

I think if put Muscat in charge of the Jets we'd have a surplus of ex A-league players joining the NNSWPL competition.
He wouldn't accept 2nd best.
As far as only managing a quality team with plenty of money that's not always easier either.
There is a lot less pressure at clubs like the Jets and Mariners than at the Melbourne or Sydney clubs. There would also be a lot less ego to contend with at the smaller clubs as well.
I'm not saying tactical issues aren't important but the further up the ladder you go it really becomes as much about man management as it does tactics. Higher paid players also have a lot more influence as well. Look at someone like ETO as an extreme example with respect to his national team - he essentially ran the team at all levels so great was his influence on the sport.
Great managers cab do it with different levels of resources

Blokes like Conti can do a job

He has done it at Juve doing it at Chelsea
Where he has had resources

Done a quality job with a limited squad with the Italy NT

But has also got 2 clubs promoted from Serie b to the top flight

Bloke has a fair idea about running a football club


Then you have someone like Guardiola

Dominated in Spain with Barca and Messi
Dominated in Germany with Bayern

Both in two leagues that are dominated by 2 big clubs

But the poor bloke has NFI it appears when coaching in the EPL

Even with a highly talented squad that is at the top nd of the league on talent without the significant advantage over the other teams he is being shown up

[StannyCFCJET]

Great managers cab do it with different levels of resources

Blokes like Conti can do a job

He has done it at Juve doing it at Chelsea
Where he has had resources

Done a quality job with a limited squad with the Italy NT

But has also got 2 clubs promoted from Serie b to the top flight

Bloke has a fair idea about running a football club


Then you have someone like Guardiola

Dominated in Spain with Barca and Messi
Dominated in Germany with Bayern

Both in two leagues that are dominated by 2 big clubs

But the poor bloke has NFI it appears when coaching in the EPL

Even with a highly talented squad that is at the top nd of the league on talent without the significant advantage over the other teams he is being shown up

Agree with everything, but did you mean Conte??? or are you using content as a joke or pun??

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Agree with everything, but did you mean Conte??? or are you using content as a joke or pun??

See, now look whats happened. You've been agreeing with the member too long, you're seeing things.

He never wrote Content.

[StannyCFCJET]

See, now look whats happened. You've been agreeing with the member too long, you're seeing things.

He never wrote Content.

Someone is playing games here. Also when someone speaks the truth isn't the general consensus to agree with them? Keep up the good fight member

[Wilso8948]

Bridge back on the radar according to the herald. Apparently injury is a hairline fracture in tibia with 8 week layoff. He's back running after 4 already. Talks are jets asking for allowance to sign him for this season if he is released after the transfer window closes. Can see the FFA squashing that

[parksey]

What has he changed since Ange took over they play the same style almost and where is he plan B. Sydney brought on ibini and started playing more direct balls in behind and muscat did nothing, add this to Sydney's defence easily handling victorys attack most of the night so where was the change in style or tactics to get around this. Put Muscat in charge of a squad like us or Mariners and he would struggle big time. Being Passionate and Fiery only gets you so far you need to combine this with football coaching smarts and tactical nous.

They got beat by a ball over the top to Ibini who bullied one defender and outpaced another. I hardly see this as being tactically outplayed.

Until then they gave as good as they got and probably played the better football. Same as the first time they played Sydney, where they deserved to win.

Plenty of time this season where Muscat has got his tactics spot on. They were the form team in the comp up until the last week (when admittedly they lost three in a row).

[turbojetfireV8]

Bridge back on the radar according to the herald. Apparently injury is a hairline fracture in tibia with 8 week layoff. He's back running after 4 already. Talks are jets asking for allowance to sign him for this season if he is released after the transfer window closes. Can see the FFA squashing that

F*kn well hope FFA quash it, any excuse to not have wankles back despite Griff's glowing endorsements.


“We still need clarification from the PFA (players union) and FFA with regards to what we can and cannot do if he is released after the window closes,” Griffiths said. “There could be an exception made. It is in the hands of the Thai club. If there is a mutual termination, we will attack.”

Griffiths has no doubts that Bridge would provide a “lift” approaching the finals.

“Looking at the squad, Bridgey would be a perfect asset to bring in,” said Griffiths, who played alongside the striker for two seasons. “He has the experience – he has won grand finals, won Asian championships, played overseas – and is a big-game player. There is no point signing someone if they are not going to improve the squad. I have played alongside Bridgey. He takes a lot of pressure off other players. That is the beauty of a good player.”

Apparently Brennan is training with Chiangrai at the moment - opportunity lost, coulda been a straight swap for wankles if we'd played our cards right...

[q-money]

why are we so obsessed with mark bridge ffs, surely we can sign some other jabroni

[Wilso8948]

Personally rather have nordstrand and bridge then Kokko and nordstrand as our striking options. Opens up a visa spot whilst keeping the same depth of strikers

[evanhayes5]

F*kn well hope FFA quash it, any excuse to not have wankles back despite Griff's glowing endorsements.



Apparently Brennan is training with Chiangrai at the moment - opportunity lost, coulda been a straight swap for wankles if we'd played our cards right...

Brennan signed for Bentliegh greens in the Victorian NPL - never mind he is on trial

We have also taken on Jayden Prasad from brisbane roar youth, not sure if he has signed or just trialling, saw him at training looked decent.

But that makes it 6 former roar players potentially at the club

Clut, Jackson, Petratos, Sawyer, Champness and potentially Prasad

[Tommyjet]

Brennan signed for Bentliegh greens in the Victorian NPL - never mind he is on trial

We have also taken on Jayden Prasad from brisbane roar youth, not sure if he has signed or just trialling, saw him at training looked decent.

But that makes it 6 former roar players potentially at the club

Clut, Jackson, Petratos, Sawyer, Champness and potentially Prasad

We signing many of these young players on scholarships and sending them to Portugal 2nd div

[StannyCFCJET]

They got beat by a ball over the top to Ibini who bullied one defender and outpaced another. I hardly see this as being tactically outplayed.

Until then they gave as good as they got and probably played the better football. Same as the first time they played Sydney, where they deserved to win.

Plenty of time this season where Muscat has got his tactics spot on. They were the form team in the comp up until the last week (when admittedly they lost three in a row).

From what ive seen of Victory and Muscat several times this season lets just agree to disagree

[borat]

Personally rather have nordstrand and bridge then Kokko and nordstrand as our striking options. Opens up a visa spot whilst keeping the same depth of strikers

If there was a zombie apocalypse and there were only 2 strikers left in the world, Bridge and Kokko, I may agree with you on Bridge.....begrudgingly.

FFS the guy is 31 and has a leg fracture....and we are still going to sign him. This club will do me. How about we actually recruit someone decent.....who doesn't have to be someone Jones has already seen. So farking lazy

[Wilso8948]

If there was a zombie apocalypse and there were only 2 strikers left in the world, Bridge and Kokko, I may agree with you on Bridge.....begrudgingly.

FFS the guy is 31 and has a leg fracture....and we are still going to sign him. This club will do me. How about we actually recruit someone decent.....who doesn't have to be someone Jones has already seen. So darling lazy

Yeh I agree to an extent. I'm just giving some reason as to why we would be keen on him. Still frees up a visa spot to go after a top line striker. Bridge probably offers you more then haliti if his career is coming to an end. Love Labs but well past it in my opinion. Bridge offers a little more in desperate times