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pv4
19-03-2014, 04:31 PM
Do they come in Men's sizes?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Jon-Stewart-saying-Oh-Snap.gif

halo se7en
19-03-2014, 04:52 PM
CCM got their bottled water sponsor for the ACL again.

http://static.ffa.sportalhosting.com/site/_content/photogalleryitem/00035714-photo.jpg

TBH that's the best home kit I've seen from them in their history.

Inb4 "WLG, gypo gypo gypo, etc" :rof:

On the iPhone, that sponsor actually looks like 'gypo'

Thomas477
19-03-2014, 05:05 PM
I'm just wondering whose bright idea it was to walk on concrete with their studs? FFS.

GazFish35
19-03-2014, 07:42 PM
So the mob who steal our water are sponsored by the mob who steal Tibet's.

pv4
14-07-2014, 07:24 PM
It's Griffmas eve!

Kits to be revealed tomorrow

parksey
14-07-2014, 07:29 PM
yew

furns
14-07-2014, 08:41 PM
Went to superstore today to check out clearance sale on jets stuff. Place is like 90% Knights now, Jets stuff is limited to back corner. And unless you are a massive fatty or a short arse you will be out of luck. Only sizes are xs or 2/3xl.
And they have cleared out the online store for the BLK stuff. Which no doubt will be the usual overpriced stuff.

pv4
15-07-2014, 11:07 AM
http://i60.tinypic.com/2h5379y.png

Blackmac79
15-07-2014, 11:15 AM
Well ain't going to be buying that....

Superdylan
15-07-2014, 11:20 AM
So why have we had to get new kits for we only had our ones last year for one year? I thought it was every 2 years there was a change.

****en hell may aswell just go plain clothed next season, against modern merchandising.

Luckily they aren't too different but still.

Blackmac79
15-07-2014, 11:22 AM
First Q A - We changed supplier

Second point - AMM banner it up

Third - but still.

Grimario
15-07-2014, 11:24 AM
So why have we had to get new kits for we only had our ones last year for one year? I thought it was every 2 years there was a change.

****en hell may aswell just go plain clothed next season, against modern merchandising.

Luckily they aren't too different but still.

Thought club said change of away strip colour/design every 2 years... change of kit manufacturer is something different.

pv4
15-07-2014, 11:26 AM
I don't fully mind the front of the home but the back of it is just gash. No kit suppliers know how to treat striped jerseys when it comes to the back.

Can't help but think the away would have looked better if the vertical stripes were to one side, like the last Socceroos kit. Hope they keep the white shorts & socks for it as I thought that looked great.

Seeing them in person will probably change my mind about them. I really do hate when kit suppliers "reveal" their kits only to just show a computer model. It can't honestly take that long to make a few mockups and chuck them on players and get a photoshoot done.

Hope the material is acceptable, as opposed to the rubbish ISC used.

I think yall will find that the club considered last years home kit to be the "same" as the years before, even though it had slight differences. And you'd struggle to find a kit supplier take over a club and keep the existing designs. I think ISC did it with Heart but basically every club that changes kit supplier will change their designs a bit, and I think the FFA are cool with that.

smoo
15-07-2014, 11:30 AM
For the uneducated and in case i missed something, are Castle Quarry Products a new front of shirt sponsor?

zorse
15-07-2014, 11:37 AM
Not enough cinammon on the Away jersey, and what's with the red patch on back of Home jersey, I saw it and thought it was the front view with a bib!

BodyNovo
15-07-2014, 11:41 AM
The away kit is fine

The home kit is absolute dross though.

Still think the first red and blue kit by HSG was the best

WolfMan
15-07-2014, 11:42 AM
Would prefer a horizontal cinnamon and white stripe. Vertical looks weird for some reason

sammydog
15-07-2014, 11:53 AM
I am loving the away jersey, will wait and see the home one in the flesh.

Who am I kidding though, I will end up buying both.

MFKS
15-07-2014, 12:08 PM
Anyone who criticises the E&C can eat a dick.

Mods should also lay the smackdown with the ban hammer for the stupidity displayed


As for the home kit as soon as Griff is spotted wearing one the will be instantly cool

MFKS
15-07-2014, 12:09 PM
on another note when can I get my hands on one??

we waiting to xmas time again like the other year or what???

leftrightout
15-07-2014, 12:10 PM
I quite like both of them. I think the away strip is even better than last season.
Like PV4, i will wait to make full judgement until i see them on, but first impression is a pass.

I understand what people say about the red patch but what other options are there?
Stripe shirts would be hard to design with a number on the back. If they went with blue background everyone would probably complain that there is too much blue.

Premy
15-07-2014, 12:13 PM
Can someone with mad photo shop skills make the middle blue strip gold to see how it would look? Please.

pv4
15-07-2014, 12:29 PM
Can someone with mad photo shop skills make the middle blue strip gold to see how it would look? Please.

Would make the kit too busy IMO

parksey
15-07-2014, 12:32 PM
look ok to me.

seeing them in person will be the real test.

Grimario
15-07-2014, 12:38 PM
Can someone with mad photo shop skills make the middle blue strip gold to see how it would look? Please.

Mad skills? :lulz: I do all my work in paint, that's how mad my skills are.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/Grimario/2h5379y_zps60a01170.png

Premy
15-07-2014, 12:40 PM
Mad skills? :lulz: I do all my work in paint, that's how mad my skills are.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/Grimario/2h5379y_zps60a01170.png

Haha gold I would buy this in a heartbeat.

Pico
15-07-2014, 12:42 PM
http://i60.tinypic.com/2h5379y.png

Can't say I'm a fan of the home, the back looks awful. The away is a pass.
But saying that you really need to wait to see what it looks like in the flesh.

Agree with the whole releasing kits as photoshop images, a bit amateur hour, compare that reveal to the city reveal...

I do like the nice touch of using the gold in the blk logo, would be interested to see what the sponsor logo looked like in gold too.

Grimario
15-07-2014, 12:43 PM
Would make the kit too busy IMO

I think if you get rid of the horrible BLK on the shoulder, it would look decent.

pv4
15-07-2014, 12:48 PM
would be interested to see what the sponsor logo looked like in gold too.

I (and I'm pretty sure you) have been saying this since the first Hunter Ports logo!! Too true my man.

Pico
15-07-2014, 01:40 PM
I (and I'm pretty sure you) have been saying this since the first Hunter Ports logo!! Too true my man.

At least they have a solid neutral colour unlike the victory ended up with.

Ironically have a look at the standard CQP logo.....






http://castleqp.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/CQP-Castle-Quarry-Products-logo.png

leftrightout
15-07-2014, 02:25 PM
Mad skills? :lulz: I do all my work in paint, that's how mad my skills are.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/Grimario/2h5379y_zps60a01170.png


Would make the kit too busy IMO

Got to agree, makes it look way to busy. Starting to look more like a rugby league shirt with that much going on

GazFish35
15-07-2014, 02:58 PM
the home strip looks like they are in a cage. Seems they are ainming for the active suport look.


I like the away kit.




ui would jizz my pants if we ever went for a harlequine red/blue option.

GazFish35
15-07-2014, 03:04 PM
CQP owned in part by Tinkler apparently.

Grimario
15-07-2014, 03:33 PM
Got to agree, makes it look way to busy. Starting to look more like a rugby league shirt with that much going on

Too busy, indeed.

Why the **** do companies struggle with vertical stripes? It's not like gold numbers with a white outline bends in too much with red and blue, FFS.

Dodgy copy/pasting aside, what exactly is wrong with this?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/Grimario/BLK_Jets_zps4492fbca.jpg

Sort it out, BLK. Won't be buying one and all I can say is Bad Luck, Kuntz.

parksey
15-07-2014, 03:37 PM
back looks a lot better.

Pico
15-07-2014, 03:43 PM
Too busy, indeed. Ignoring the front gold stripe (because, for some reason, I decided to edit the already edited pic instead of the original)... why the **** do companies struggle with vertical stripes? It's not like gold numbers with a white outline bends in too much with red and blue, FFS.

Dodgy copy/pasting aside, what exactly is wrong with this?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/Grimario/2h5379y_zpsc728f139.jpg

Sort it out, BLK. Won't be buying one and all I can say is Bad Luck, Kuntz.


back looks so much better.

Provided the number has a bold font there is no reason to need a stupid large block out panel. A bit of care with the size and positioning of the stripes is all that is needed too.

leftrightout
15-07-2014, 03:44 PM
That back does look better than the real one...

Grimario
15-07-2014, 03:45 PM
back looks so much better.

Provided the number has a bold font there is no reason to need a stupid large block out panel. A bit of care with the size and positioning of the stripes is all that is needed too.

Yeah, even then I can't really see any combination of the red and blue on the back that would make gold with white outline hard to read.

hawk
15-07-2014, 03:55 PM
shouldve just given the jersey design to you guys, 5mins & some common sense, win

pv4
15-07-2014, 03:58 PM
EXCUSE THE SHOTTY PAINT JOB

Taken Grim's back idea.

Made CQP gold on home jersey.

Moved cinnamon&white stripe to the side.

IMO this is what we should have:

http://i59.tinypic.com/2469tnr.png

Pico
15-07-2014, 04:19 PM
EXCUSE THE SHOTTY PAINT JOB

Taken Grim's back idea.

Made CQP gold on home jersey.

Moved cinnamon&white stripe to the side.

IMO this is what we should have:

http://i59.tinypic.com/2469tnr.png

Would buy both of those, unlike the official ones.

Grimario
15-07-2014, 04:21 PM
Could just be my eyes deceiving me or artificially created shadows on the side panels... but why are they grey?

pv4
15-07-2014, 04:27 PM
Could just be my eyes deceiving me or artificially created shadows on the side panels... but why are they grey?

Pretty sure they're meant to be white. Just artificial shadows.

Grimario
15-07-2014, 04:29 PM
Pretty sure they're meant to be white. Just artificial shadows.

Wonder if they are white mesh to allow breathing...

Jeterpool
15-07-2014, 04:48 PM
EXCUSE THE SHOTTY PAINT JOB

Taken Grim's back idea.

Made CQP gold on home jersey.

Moved cinnamon&white stripe to the side.

IMO this is what we should have:

http://i59.tinypic.com/2469tnr.png

Yes!! I really like that.

Not a fan of the design of the away kit but love the colours.

I actually don't mind the home kit

q-money
15-07-2014, 05:02 PM
they could have just asked the fans what they want ay

pv4
15-07-2014, 05:03 PM
they could have just asked the fans what they want ay

It worked for wsw why dafuq would it work for us

leftrightout
15-07-2014, 05:04 PM
EXCUSE THE SHOTTY PAINT JOB

Taken Grim's back idea.

Made CQP gold on home jersey.

Moved cinnamon&white stripe to the side.

IMO this is what we should have:

http://i59.tinypic.com/2469tnr.png

Brilliant, love both of these. Both are better versions of the real strips.
Why is it that fans on a forum can come up with something better than people who are paid to do it i.e shirt manufacturer and the club?

GazFish35
15-07-2014, 05:36 PM
Because chance are that if they had presented that option, people would be arguing the cqp should be white and the brown and white stripe should be centralised.

I just hope the manufacture make better shirts than isc...... But that's not hard.

joel31
15-07-2014, 06:01 PM
I loathe the home kit but don't mind the away

Bring back the gold. (With e&c away)

Jetmaster
15-07-2014, 06:13 PM
Can someone post the fan mockups on the Facebook page ?

Great feedback.

baldrick
15-07-2014, 07:19 PM
http://i60.tinypic.com/2h5379y.png


Would be awesome if we had hoops instead of stripes..

GazFish35
15-07-2014, 07:48 PM
http://www.cpfc.co.uk/cms_images/news/kits-4361-813287_478x359.jpg

http://www.designfootball.com/design-galleries/fantasy-football-shirts/orig-cagliari-home-kit-6011


I'm not fussed on what they've come up with, but it would save a whole heap of complaining if they just asked fans what they wanted, let people submit ideas, put it to a vote..... Rig the bloody thing if they have a deal for cheaper kit design, pretend the cheap one won.... At least start engaging with the very folk you want to then have fork out cash for something.

WolfMan
15-07-2014, 08:34 PM
Cinnamon stripe looks way better off-centre. Good pickup

Pico
15-07-2014, 08:35 PM
I see no reason why the numbers cant be gold on the away kit too, looks nicer then the black imo, pv4 you digging the gold sponsor, still can't believe they would not use it when the companies logo is so close to the gold colour anyway, oh well maybe next year.

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/pico_NJFC/pico_njfc%20Kits/BLK_Jets_zps56a6af0c.jpg (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/pico_NJFC/media/pico_njfc%20Kits/BLK_Jets_zps56a6af0c.jpg.html)

plague
15-07-2014, 08:56 PM
Could be worse, we could have been made to wear stupid shit like these assholes.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahahah
http://www.leaguefreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ISCMarvelJerseys.jpg
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2014/07/14/1226988/683993-b0646c4c-0b14-11e4-b832-315b08e711dd.jpg

GazFish35
15-07-2014, 09:36 PM
^^^^

Gallop and de Bohoun are in charge, don't speak too soon.

militiamon
15-07-2014, 09:59 PM
Yawn, the way I see it is they copied a simple, decent home kit to start with (Barcelona's), and the redesigns since have just made it progressively shitter to the point where it has deviated into League levels of shitness.

Trend appears to be continuing with the away kit.

Compare to the potential SFC kits + any other dus who got their kits from Nike/Adidas.

northern_swan
16-07-2014, 08:38 AM
Went to superstore today to check out clearance sale on jets stuff. Place is like 90% Knights now, Jets stuff is limited to back corner. And unless you are a massive fatty or a short arse you will be out of luck. Only sizes are xs or 2/3xl.
And they have cleared out the online store for the BLK stuff. Which no doubt will be the usual overpriced stuff.

I don't really see the conspiracy with the jets stuff being back corner in NRL season. That's what will move at this time of year, simples.

I reckon BLK probably should have some training gear for the boys though, giving ISC a free kick after their contract is finished IMO.

BTW, I reckon the new kits are brilliant.

pv4
16-07-2014, 08:42 AM
I see no reason why the numbers cant be gold on the away kit too, looks nicer then the black imo, pv4 you digging the gold sponsor, still can't believe they would not use it when the companies logo is so close to the gold colour anyway, oh well maybe next year.

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/pico_NJFC/pico_njfc%20Kits/BLK_Jets_zps56a6af0c.jpg (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/pico_NJFC/media/pico_njfc%20Kits/BLK_Jets_zps56a6af0c.jpg.html)

Can you move the vertical cinnamon/white stripe to the side on that pic pls Pico?

MFKS
16-07-2014, 08:46 AM
On a more important note is Middleby gonna do the right thing by the people of Newy and see that a range of supporting merchandise polis jumpers etc is available for purchase in the e&c not just the red and blue

The people want the e&c

leftrightout
16-07-2014, 08:48 AM
I don't really see the conspiracy with the jets stuff being back corner in NRL season. That's what will move at this time of year, simples.

I reckon BLK probably should have some training gear for the boys though, giving ISC a free kick after their contract is finished IMO.

BTW, I reckon the new kits are brilliant.

Would all the ownership stuff with the knights & jets have anything to do with what will be sold in the knights shop?
I would think if it is the knights shop, the jets now have nothing to do with them now. Im surprised theres jets gear in there at all?

pv4
16-07-2014, 08:53 AM
Would all the ownership stuff with the knights & jets have anything to do with what will be sold in the knights shop?
I would think if it is the knights shop, the jets now have nothing to do with them now. Im surprised theres jets gear in there at all?

I'm fairly confident the guys&gals that work in that store are employees of HSG so if that's the case I'm surprised they're selling Knights stuff still.

sammydog
16-07-2014, 08:55 AM
I don't really see the conspiracy with the jets stuff being back corner in NRL season. That's what will move at this time of year, simples.

I reckon BLK probably should have some training gear for the boys though, giving ISC a free kick after their contract is finished IMO.

BTW, I reckon the new kits are brilliant.

Who owns the superstore space now?

Did that go with the Knights as it was theirs before the clubs merged? or is that an asset that Tinkler kept for the jets when he lost the knights? If it is the knights, don't expect to see any Jets gear in there next season.

I agree though, during NRL season you would expect the NRL range to be front and centre.


-----edit-------

should have read the three posts above before I posted.

Premy
16-07-2014, 09:42 AM
I think HSG will be trying to flog off the Knights stock they have, I can't see them buying more stock.

With the Knights now being over at West Mayfield there is a supporters store over there run by Balance and i would imagine West would use the weight they have to push for exclusivity with the official merchandising.

Pico
16-07-2014, 10:44 AM
Who owns the superstore space now?


I believe its a leased space, it will be interesting to see when the lease is up and where the jets end up. I would imagine they won't be at hunter stadium for long, it wouldn't surprise me if the new knights ownership will look to get back in there.

Premy
16-07-2014, 10:53 AM
I believe its a leased space, it will be interesting to see when the lease is up and where the jets end up. I would imagine they won't be at hunter stadium for long, it wouldn't surprise me if the new knights ownership will look to get back in there.
I doubt the Knights will move back, they have it to good at Mayfield and the move there was not a HSG deal. In fact Tinkler and Palmer were nowhere to be seen on the official opening.

West have their claws in a little deeper into the Knights I doubt they will release the grip considering how long they have waited yo get them in.

Hunter403
16-07-2014, 12:19 PM
EXCUSE THE SHOTTY PAINT JOB

Taken Grim's back idea.

Made CQP gold on home jersey.

Moved cinnamon&white stripe to the side.

IMO this is what we should have:

http://i59.tinypic.com/2469tnr.png

I like this version of the away strip. Hated the red and blue strips we have had and see no reason to change my opinion now: ugly. Agree with those who would have us back in gold. Bought an away shirt last season but I won't be buying either of these.

hausmann
16-07-2014, 02:10 PM
774

I know I am probably stretching reality to think we could ever get a kit as good as this, but the quality of the design is just awesome.

I've never been one to turn up to an A-League game in a euro strip but the Jets just keep churning out stuff that is so bad I cannot justify paying $100 for it.

GazFish35
16-07-2014, 02:28 PM
the deep red, almost maroon and navy helps

BodyNovo
16-07-2014, 02:30 PM
774

I know I am probably stretching reality to think we could ever get a kit as good as this, but the quality of the design is just awesome.

I've never been one to turn up to an A-League game in a euro strip but the Jets just keep churning out stuff that is so bad I cannot justify paying $100 for it.

thats nike

we have a rugby league supplier.

hawk
16-07-2014, 02:43 PM
the deep red, almost maroon and navy helps

this all day long.

royal blue and bright red is awful

Rocknerd
16-07-2014, 03:51 PM
Shirts are gash, will not purchase not even if we go 31 rounds unbeaten. mock ups by PV4 are better though. would consider if they were $50 including Griffiths 9 on the back.

plague
16-07-2014, 04:18 PM
^^^^

Gallop and de Bohoun are in charge, don't speak too soon.

Say what you want about them Mr Fish, but would Ben Buckley ever have had the clout to land Jason Derulo for the grand final entertainment?

GazFish35
16-07-2014, 04:25 PM
Say what you want about them Mr Fish, but would Ben Buckley ever have had the clout to land Jason Derulo for the grand final entertainment?

I'll not be impressed until he gets Billy Idol.

Pico
16-07-2014, 08:05 PM
Can you move the vertical cinnamon/white stripe to the side on that pic pls Pico?

Like this....


http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/pico_NJFC/pico_njfc%20Kits/BLK_Jets_zps97551c7c.jpg (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/pico_NJFC/media/pico_njfc%20Kits/BLK_Jets_zps97551c7c.jpg.html)

Pico
16-07-2014, 08:07 PM
774

I know I am probably stretching reality to think we could ever get a kit as good as this, but the quality of the design is just awesome.

I've never been one to turn up to an A-League game in a euro strip but the Jets just keep churning out stuff that is so bad I cannot justify paying $100 for it.

All they need to do is slightly change the shade of red and blue and hey presto its not so in your face bright and works so much better, will never happen though.

pv4
23-07-2014, 12:38 PM
Allstars kit, by BLK

http://www.a-leagueallstars.com.au/di/library/Football_Australia/41/55/the-new-foxtel-a-league-all-stars-kit-for-their-clash-with-juventus_45sxalfztwk713yx9azg9dbr3.jpg?t=161908602 3

What looks good to me, is judging solely from the picture the material looks better than the stuff ISC supplied us with.

Grimario
23-07-2014, 01:16 PM
Allstars kit, by BLK

http://www.a-leagueallstars.com.au/di/library/Football_Australia/41/55/the-new-foxtel-a-league-all-stars-kit-for-their-clash-with-juventus_45sxalfztwk713yx9azg9dbr3.jpg?t=161908602 3

What looks good to me, is judging solely from the picture the material looks better than the stuff ISC supplied us with.

Back panel...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtMZ6VjCcAE2xYu.jpg

Beeen
23-07-2014, 02:54 PM
Anyone who buys one of those is a deranged individual.

pv4
05-08-2014, 07:10 AM
First sneak at our BLK home and keeper jerseys:

http://i.imgur.com/Shqw5fQ.png

http://i.imgur.com/nOlyCnx.png

GazFish35
05-08-2014, 09:41 AM
still no gold keepers kit pv4

unleash

WolfMan
05-08-2014, 11:53 AM
I kinda like how the red bleeds into the blue.

MFKS
05-08-2014, 10:58 PM
Must say that kit of ours looks ****ing horrid to eye the up close.

Reminds me so much of the local dog molesting team kit from the late 80's early 90's

BodyNovo
06-08-2014, 12:14 AM
Kit would be acceptable if they didn't have that garbage patch on the back

Glorys kit was absolute aids but

MFKS
06-08-2014, 12:15 AM
Kit would be acceptable if they didn't have that garbage patch on the back

Glorys kit was absolute aids but
Special FFA cup kit in WA state colours

furns
06-08-2014, 01:55 AM
Must say that kit of ours looks ****ing horrid to eye the up close.

Reminds me so much of the local dog molesting team kit from the late 80's early 90'sagree

was saying to ToddG and Gaz during second half, it looked like the old Knights kit that had the Henny Penny sponsorship on the front.

pv4
06-08-2014, 07:52 AM
Don't mind the kit tbh - but the back patch needs to go, it's Gallaway.

A few decent cringeworthy kit related things happening last night though, but nothing out of the ordinary for a HAL match.

sammydog
06-08-2014, 08:19 AM
I thought the kit was fine. The solid red back looked OK with the gold numbers.

GazFish35
06-08-2014, 08:30 AM
We have bigger issues than the kits.

Pricks in the crowd who jinx entire seasons are the biggest issue.

sammydog
06-08-2014, 08:45 AM
Actually something I noticed in the crowd last night was a LOT of people were from the onset heckling our own players. Everyone was an expert last night in the crowd, which is fine, but the heckling???

I don't quiet understand that, and while it shouldn't affect players its pretty poor form, especially being the first game.

I can also see why the squadron doesn't really grow, the number of people around me banging on about what the squadron are doing "wrong" and how to "fix" it was pretty high. Large number in the crowd of experts who can pick the shit out of things but offer nothing constructive.

MFKS
06-08-2014, 08:58 AM
Actually something I noticed in the crowd last night was a LOT of people were from the onset heckling our own players. Everyone was an expert last night in the crowd, which is fine, but the heckling???

I don't quiet understand that, and while it shouldn't affect players its pretty poor form, especially being the first game.

I can also see why the squadron doesn't really grow, the number of people around me banging on about what the squadron are doing "wrong" and how to "fix" it was pretty high. Large number in the crowd of experts who can pick the shit out of things but offer nothing constructive.

In light of their performance I thought the heckling was negligible. Some of them should have had strips torn off them

sammydog
06-08-2014, 09:03 AM
In light of their performance I thought the heckling was negligible. Some of them should have had strips torn off them

Where I was though, the heckling started from kickoff. Before anyone on the pitch had a chance to earn a few heckles to be thrown their way.

northern_swan
06-08-2014, 09:44 AM
I thought the kit looked great. Still wearing the old ISC socks though.

Grimario
06-08-2014, 10:17 AM
We have bigger issues than the kits.

Pricks in the crowd who jinx entire seasons are the biggest issue.

I didn't fly over so I can't be blamed :beer:

sammydog
06-08-2014, 10:20 AM
I didn't fly over so I can't be blamed :beer:

You didn't bother turning up, your a bigger issue.

Grimario
06-08-2014, 11:00 AM
You didn't bother turning up, your a bigger issue.

I won't be anytime soon. $70 membership for some shitty merchandise, zero games. **** the club.

Jeterpool
06-08-2014, 11:11 AM
I quite liked the kits too. I liked them better than what I thought in the pictures.

parksey
06-08-2014, 12:01 PM
they look pretty sweet to me

furns
06-08-2014, 12:49 PM
Where I was though, the heckling started from kickoff. Before anyone on the pitch had a chance to earn a few heckles to be thrown their way.
Who was heckling our players?
All i could hear was a certain supporter actively heckling the opposition, the refs, etc

sammydog
06-08-2014, 01:18 PM
Who was heckling our players?
All i could hear was a certain supporter actively heckling the opposition, the refs, etc

Don't know who they were, but around me there were several different groups getting stuck into Galloway, Kanta and Virgili mostly.

There was plenty of stuff I could hear from elsewhere directed at Vukovic that was pretty funny.

lquiquer
06-08-2014, 01:27 PM
Don't know who they were, but around me there were several different groups getting stuck into Galloway, Kanta and Virgili mostly.


And why wouldn't they....They should have got stuck into Goodwin as well

pv4
06-08-2014, 02:09 PM
WSW kits for this season:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuUrsdjCEAIPJvI.jpg

Away looks unreal.

Home needs black shorts.

Thomas477
06-08-2014, 07:33 PM
Jeez it'll be nice to have Nike as our kit supplier.

Jeterpool
06-08-2014, 08:24 PM
That'll be the day

WolfMan
07-08-2014, 06:30 AM
Away looks like their home shirts are inside-out. Awful IMHO

ToddG NBUnited
15-08-2014, 07:46 PM
Brisbane have announced that UMBRO will be their kit supplier for the next 4 years. With an exclusivity clause to be the only club for the upcoming season with umbro kits. Of note through a partnership with amart and rebel shirts will retail for under $100.

Brisbane Roar Football Club has announced iconic football kit manufacturer Umbro as the club’s apparel partner for the next four Hyundai A-League seasons.
In addition to providing playing and training kit for Brisbane Roar’s Hyundai A-League, Westfield W-League and Foxtel National Youth League teams, the Umbro partnership will leverage the retail strength of Rebel and Amart Sports to manage the club’s game day merchandise and provide an expanded online experience.

Initial exclusivity was a priority for Brisbane Roar, meaning the three-time Hyundai A-League Champions will be the only club in the competition wearing the double diamonds in the 2014/15 season.

Brisbane Roar Managing Director Sean Dobson spoke highly of the new partnership, in particular Umbro’s approach to excellence and innovation.

“We are extremely excited to announce our association with Umbro,” Dobson said.

“Umbro has a strong heritage in our sport and it’s fitting that on the 10 year anniversary of the club’s inception that we partner with such an iconic football brand.

“We’ve worked very closely with Umbro to ensure the best quality and designs for our playing kits and by partnering with Rebel and Amart Sports can confirm the jerseys will retail for under $100.”

Umbro Australia Brand Manager Ryan Pittaway said the partnership marks a special milestone in the brand’s history.

“Umbro celebrates our 90th birthday this year, so to partner with the reigning Hyundai A-League Champions in their tenth anniversary year definitely adds to the excitement of the occasion,” Pittaway said.

“No other football brand comes close in terms of experience and this is what gives us the edge in delivering the world class football kit we know the Brisbane Roar players and fans expect.

“We want to ensure professional quality equipment is accessible to grassroots football teams and fans, so we’ve also developed a range of $40 complete Umbro football kits, which are available at Amart Sports and Rebel stores across Queensland.”

Brisbane Roar will reveal their kit for the upcoming season over the coming days.


http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/brisbane-roar-and-umbro-announce-long-term-partnership/17077kgda0xww1lf5qyblqw9k5

foti68
15-08-2014, 11:06 PM
Umbro is owned by Nike

BodyNovo
16-08-2014, 02:04 AM
Umbro is owned by Nike

Actually nike sold umbro to iconix about 2 years ago.

Hence why man city and England moved to nike along with other clubs

Jetmaster
16-08-2014, 09:28 AM
Brings back memories of the seventies...these were the only two brands you had in those days !

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Umbro_logo13.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Admiral_logo.png

Grimario
19-08-2014, 04:07 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvYE_ElCQAAHDct.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvYF5DwCEAAx5Wg.jpg

q-money
19-08-2014, 04:13 PM
terrible

q-money
19-08-2014, 04:14 PM
also have they put some CCM trademark stars on there or something?

MFKS
19-08-2014, 04:20 PM
also have they put some CCM trademark stars on there or something?

Least the Roar have at least won something.

Looks far too Orange for me

Pico
19-08-2014, 04:21 PM
I don’t like the white, seems weird for a team that has previously emphasised black and orange as their strong colours, would have thought that a black piece at the neck would have made more sense.

I’ll be honest I also think they wasted an opportunity with the new logo, its ok, but a little too simple and Peugeot-esque for my liking.

Having said that its still better then anything HSG has managed to get from a kit supplier and its cheaper too.

GazFish35
19-08-2014, 05:09 PM
If the club wasn't an extension of hollandia-inala but of the Brisbane Knights or Rocklea united, is there any chance a new kit copying the croation national team would have been acceptable for the FFA?

joel31
20-08-2014, 07:32 AM
Brisbane kit and logo is ugly

Premy
20-08-2014, 07:50 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvYE_ElCQAAHDct.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvYF5DwCEAAx5Wg.jpg
Dutch!!! please. More like tangerine Brisbane mimicking the Seasiders

pv4
20-08-2014, 07:55 AM
If the club wasn't an extension of hollandia-inala but of the Brisbane Knights or Rocklea united, is there any chance a new kit copying the croation national team would have been acceptable for the FFA?

:rof: exactly my thinking! Somehow the national club identity policy doesn't apply here. Kutgw FFA.

howardyou
20-08-2014, 10:11 AM
The logo looks like its trying too hard to be something.

I like the design & cut of the strip - just not the colour(s). Much better than our Rugby strip.

The Holland thing is bullshit. The Roar design isn't a national strip. It is an orange strip. There are plenty of others worldwide.
E.G. Blackpool, Barnet, Dundee utd, Wolves, Newport county and that is just from the UK.

pv4
20-08-2014, 10:14 AM
The Holland thing is bullshit. The Roar design isn't a national strip. It is an orange strip. There are plenty of others worldwide.
E.G. Blackpool, Barnet, Dundee utd, Wolves, Newport county and that is just from the UK.

I haven't researched any of those orange-wearing teams you've just listed, but how many of them have Dutch heritage in their club, like the Roar do?

Bon
20-08-2014, 10:16 AM
I haven't researched any of those orange-wearing teams you've just listed, but what fvcking colour is their keepers kit? Will it clash??

Fixed for you mate..

leftrightout
20-08-2014, 10:17 AM
The logo looks like its trying too hard to be something.

I like the design & cut of the strip - just not the colour(s). Much better than our Rugby strip.

The Holland thing is bullshit. The Roar design isn't a national strip. It is an orange strip. There are plenty of others worldwide.
E.G. Blackpool, Barnet, Dundee utd, Wolves, Newport county and that is just from the UK.

Its the mighty (or not so mighty this season) Cardiff Tigers!

pv4
20-08-2014, 10:19 AM
Howard - see below and tell me if it is still bullshit?

http://i.imgur.com/URmx00F.png

http://i.imgur.com/FMLGkUK.jpg

http://www.asianfootballfeast.com/a-league/brisbane-roar/


Brisbane’s history as a club dates back to 1957 when Hollandia-Inala Soccer Club was formed by Dutch migrants. The club adopted the name Brisbane Lions in the 1970′s, however they agreed to change their name to Queensland Lions after the formation of an AFL club with the same name.

The Queensland Lions were one of two consortiums who bid for an A-League licence in Brisbane at the inception of the A-League and on 1 November 2004 they were confirmed as the owners of the Brisbane team for the A-League.

The national club identity policy is a farce as-is, but if the FFA are going to let basically every non-cro ethnic tie through then it is a disgrace. Double standards everywhere. Normal service has resumed from the FFA, after what I thought was a huge positive change when Gallop came in.

pv4
20-08-2014, 10:21 AM
Fixed for you mate..

:rof:

Pico
20-08-2014, 10:34 AM
I haven't researched any of those orange-wearing teams you've just listed, but how many of them have Dutch heritage in their club, like the Roar do?

Clutching at straws if you ask me. Unless I’m mistaken the change to a majority orange base colour didn’t even occur when Queensland lions was even involved in the roar ownership, that was led by the new Indonesian owners. I believe it was instigated after the success of the orange Sunday theme for the grand finals and wanting to simplify the brand combined with the unique Australian brand recognition of the dominant orange colour, plus the existing three colour combination was a terrible Frankenstein combo.

People are just using it as an excuse to put shit on the FFA’s club identity policy, not that I’m saying that I agree with the policy, but using the roar as an example just weakens their argument in my opinion.

pv4
20-08-2014, 11:03 AM
Dutch heritage, dutch colours, dutch logo. hard to deny the ethnic ties of the club, regardless of ethnicity of current owners.

The Roar had an existing colour pallette and logo, which they have changed after the introduction of the national club identity policy, which said changes have shown a stronger tie to the ethnic roots on which the club was based on - the logo very similar in design to an existing former (wat) ethnic logo, and the colour pallette more aligned with the ethnic nations. No straws to be clutched, it's a violation of the rules.

What this shows is how weak the legs of the FFA's argument is here, as nearly everything can be linked to ethnic roots and there's a case for every single change in football identity to have failed the club identity policy.

If Asians took control of WSW, had a blue day for a charity (beyond blue?), decided that blue tied in with the clubs direction etc more than black did, ditched the black in the jersey, put blue socks on the home kit - are they allowed to claim there are no Croatian ties to the decision?

Pico
20-08-2014, 11:49 AM
So because a club had at some point a shareholder who had x lineage, the entire club can never be considered anything else, is bound by that shareholder for all time and any decisions that are made by a completely separate, new entity with no lineage or ties to the original partial shareholder are based around that small piece of history.

As I said clutching at straws, the Brisbane roar example is very weak.

By that line of reasoning we are a Cypriot team.

Cypriot Owner
Cypriot Colours
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Flag_of_Cyprus_%281922-1960%29.svg/800px-Flag_of_Cyprus_%281922-1960%29.svg.png

Cypriot Colours & Symbolism in club Badge
Owner originated from Lanaka region where you guessed it the local club wear red and blue
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Alki.png
Blue and red strips taken from ALKI Larnaca FC
Scroll design for Jets logo taken from ALKI Larnaca FC logo
Adoption of United clear reference to the UN’s Annan Proposal
Adoption of Jets clearly linked to Cyprus coat of arms with the modern day interpretation of the Dove

Adoption of all three colours of the UN’s current Annan proposal when the club was being re-formed for the HAL in 2004-5.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Proposed_flag_of_the_United_Cyprus_Republic.svg/320px-Proposed_flag_of_the_United_Cyprus_Republic.svg.pn g

Rightly that is just plain ridiculous :lol:

Grimario
20-08-2014, 11:56 AM
Rightly that is just plain ridiculous :lol:, when history clearly shows we are a Seventh Day Adventist club :whistling:

Don't have a pop at my religion, dude. Avondale 4 Lyfe!

Bon
20-08-2014, 12:00 PM
Don't have a pop at my religion, dude. Avondale 4 Lyfe!

For a group that don't eat meat, they make a mean pie down that way, not a bad road coffee either..
You been back there recently Grim? They actually have a bottle-o now!!!

Ok, bit of a tangent.. Back to your racial conspiracy theories WLG..

Pico
20-08-2014, 12:06 PM
Don't have a pop at my religion, dude. Avondale 4 Lyfe!

Nah nothing to do with religion more to do with th jets failing to finish higher than 7th on the table.

MFKS
20-08-2014, 12:26 PM
Howard - see below and tell me if it is still bullshit?

http://i.imgur.com/URmx00F.png

http://i.imgur.com/FMLGkUK.jpg

http://www.asianfootballfeast.com/a-league/brisbane-roar/



The national club identity policy is a farce as-is, but if the FFA are going to let basically every non-cro ethnic tie through then it is a disgrace. Double standards everywhere. Normal service has resumed from the FFA, after what I thought was a huge positive change when Gallop came in.

No great difference really with the new Roar kit and the old Roar kit in relation to the Holland references.

Holland have played in Orange shirt black shorts many a time.


So no real change has occurred.


No great double standards by the FFA. Brisbane Roar are not making their football club a celebration of being ethnic Dutch. The Croat clubs in Australia have made their football clubs a celebration of being Croat for years and wish to continue this way without broadening their base.

The no ethnic stuff was originally brought in primarily because of the DAMAGE they were doing to the game and had done to the game in this country and less so with the Greek and Italian Clubs.

Grimario
20-08-2014, 12:34 PM
For a group that don't eat meat, they make a mean pie down that way, not a bad road coffee either..
You been back there recently Grim? They actually have a bottle-o now!!!

Ok, bit of a tangent.. Back to your racial conspiracy theories WLG..
I live in Adelaide now, so no. No plans to ever go back, bunch of weird cultists that they are.


Nah nothing to do with religion more to do with th jets failing to finish higher than 7th on the table.
Was joking, you can bash them as much as you want!

pv4
20-08-2014, 01:11 PM
No great double standards by the FFA.

Yes it is. They've implemented a "blanket rule" that they're just ignoring half of the cases for.

Another eg of the FFA allowing a club to bypass the identity policy:

http://i.imgur.com/KKho2en.jpg

It all won't matter within a matter of months though. The Melbourne Knights are fighting the FFA Cup kit case and the policy will be abolished.

:rof: member, yeah how dare the Croat, Italian, Greek clubs be proud of their heritage. They didn't produce 3/4 of the Socceroos or anything like that :rof:

MFKS
20-08-2014, 01:46 PM
Yes it is. They've implemented a "blanket rule" that they're just ignoring half of the cases for.

Another eg of the FFA allowing a club to bypass the identity policy:

http://i.imgur.com/KKho2en.jpg

It all won't matter within a matter of months though. The Melbourne Knights are fighting the FFA Cup kit case and the policy will be abolished.

:rof: member, yeah how dare the Croat, Italian, Greek clubs be proud of their heritage. They didn't produce 3/4 of the Socceroos or anything like that :rof:

What Policy??

The FFA got the Knights on that one with a rule that the FFA can change or put in a rule at anytime at their discretion clause.


The Knights fighting this case in court shows once again that this club has far too much self absorbed interest about their Croatian origins than the good of football in this country at heart. They only wanted to put the sponsor on the shirt in the FFA Cup as a **** You to Lowy and the FFA in the first place.

Maybe if they put as much effort into diversifying and strengthening their club they could actually make a compelling case to regain a place at the top table in Australian football again. Unfortunately the club is more interested in fighting some petty agendas than being a positive contributor to football in Australia going forward

pv4
20-08-2014, 01:50 PM
What Policy??

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/dct/ffa-dtc-performgroup-eu-west-1/FFA%20National%20Club%20Identity%20Policy%20FINAL_ n4tdvoe03hg31ap7ys7ppq8al.pdf

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffa-announces-national-club-identity-policy/159tpdfz6wrja164o95ot6xc9u


The National Club Identity Policy says that any new or revised club names, logos and emblems of clubs may have the following components; words or letters in English; and/or references to the broader geographic area in which the club is located; and/or colours; and/or references to flora; and/or references to fauna, provided that these components do not carry any ethnic, national, political, racial or religious connotations either in isolation or combination.

plague
20-08-2014, 02:53 PM
If the club wasn't an extension of hollandia-inala but of the Brisbane Knights or Rocklea united, is there any chance a new kit copying the croation national team would have been acceptable for the FFA?

Probably not.

Cro shirt happens to look like thier flag, roar kit happens to look like a big pile of orange.
Dutch flag ain't no orange innit?

plague
20-08-2014, 03:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/URmx00F.png

http://i.imgur.com/FMLGkUK.jpg

.

What are you talking about?
These are nothing alike.
Straight away you can see one is looking left and the other is looking right.

Some of you blokes need to open your eyes.

lquiquer
20-08-2014, 03:24 PM
What are you talking about?
These are nothing alike.
Straight away you can see one is looking left and the other is looking right.

Some of you blokes need to open your eyes.

They had to adjust for not driving on the same side of the road Plague

belchardo
20-08-2014, 03:42 PM
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/dct/ffa-dtc-performgroup-eu-west-1/FFA%20National%20Club%20Identity%20Policy%20FINAL_ n4tdvoe03hg31ap7ys7ppq8al.pdf

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffa-announces-national-club-identity-policy/159tpdfz6wrja164o95ot6xc9u

damn, there goes my chance of forming a team called leeks united!

howardyou
20-08-2014, 03:50 PM
Howard - see below and tell me if it is still bullshit?

http://i.imgur.com/URmx00F.png

http://i.imgur.com/FMLGkUK.jpg

http://www.asianfootballfeast.com/a-league/brisbane-roar/



The national club identity policy is a farce as-is, but if the FFA are going to let basically every non-cro ethnic tie through then it is a disgrace. Double standards everywhere. Normal service has resumed from the FFA, after what I thought was a huge positive change when Gallop came in.

I agree. I wan't aware of the history of the Brisbane club being dutch and directly linked through those teams.
Does seem like double standards. Seems like the FFA policy is "It's okay if the country is from Western Europe".

MFKS
20-08-2014, 05:40 PM
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/dct/ffa-dtc-performgroup-eu-west-1/FFA%20National%20Club%20Identity%20Policy%20FINAL_ n4tdvoe03hg31ap7ys7ppq8al.pdf

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffa-announces-national-club-identity-policy/159tpdfz6wrja164o95ot6xc9u

I am aware of that policy. How is the policy to be abolished when the FFA prevented the Knights from wearing the shirt by making up some rule that it had to be an existing sponsor for the NPL on the shirt to **** them over??

Pretty certain the FFA will once again tighten the rules next year to make sure they can't try to use some loop hole in future.


As for their legal action the club are taking haven't seen something so laughable since the NT quoted the Geneva Convention.


Melbourne Knights FC can confirm the following events in order to explain the absence of a confirmed major sponsor and their appearance on the front of the Westfield FFA Cup shirt as announced here.



After submitting the kits to FFA more than two weeks before the club’s FFA Cup match against Olympic FC, the governing body questioned three of our four kit sponsors on the basis of the National Club Identity Policy, namely Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club Inc., Australian Croatian Association Melbourne and Australian Croatian Association Geelong.



After communication between the Club and the FFA, the club demonstrated that FFA Cup major sponsor Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club Inc. is acceptable under The National Club Identity Policy (NCIP). The federation then released a memo on Thursday 24th July (five days before the match) stating that they would “only approve a Club’s Playing Strip as it appeared in their Member Federation 2014 league or cup competition, at the time of qualification to the Westfield FFA Cup 2014.”



The memo, which was sent to CEOs of the respective state governing bodies by head of the Hyundai A-League Damien de Bohun, said the late rule change was due to “the context of this approval process, consideration has been given to the cost and timing issues involved in producing replacement or alternate Playing Strips for the Westfield FFA Cup 2014.”



Melbourne Knights FC Club Secretary Melinda Cimera wrote to FFA when submitting the ‘league kits’, which the Club was coerced and pressured into; “The National Club Identity Policy and your enforcement of it to deny a Club valuable financial support clearly demonstrates the failure of your vision of an assimilated football community, which fundamentally denies the reality of the game in this country,” Ms Cimera said.



Following the match, Melbourne Knights FC Vice President Pave Jusup lodged an official complaint to the Human Rights Commission under the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 regarding the National Club Identity Policy which was accepted by the Commission and has been referred to the FFA for justification to the Commission.



Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club Inc. President Ange Cimera also lodged an official complaint to the Human Rights Commission under the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 regarding the attempted application of the National Club Identity Policy against Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club and the maneuvering by FFA to prevent the club from supporting the Melbourne Knights Football Club by way of sponsorship branding. The Commission accepted the complaint and referred the complaint to the FFA.



Both complaints have been referred to the FFA who were given 21 days in which to respond as of a few days ago.



Melbourne Knights FC intends to see out the process handled by the Human Rights Commission in the hope of a resolution.



Failing that, the Club has already retained legal representation and is ready to challenge the FFA’s National Club Identity Policy in the Federal Circuit Court.



Should that situation eventuate, Melbourne Knights Football Club will call an Extraordinary General Meeting of all members to give more detailed information about the situation.



In the meantime, the Club’s FFA Cup specific web store, run by our Apparel Partner Macron, is now online and is ready to take orders from tomorrow onwards. The FFA Cup kits are able to be branded to have your preferred number and surname printed on the back of the shirt as part of the price which will be activated tomorrow afternoon.

WolfMan
20-08-2014, 06:13 PM
The Holland thing is bullshit. The Roar design isn't a national strip. It is an orange strip. There are plenty of others worldwide.
E.G. Blackpool, Barnet, Dundee utd, Wolves, Newport county and that is just from the UK.

Wolves wear Old Gold my friend, and don't you 'effin forget it! ;-)

GazFish35
20-08-2014, 06:20 PM
Probably not.

Cro shirt happens to look like thier flag, roar kit happens to look like a big pile of orange.
Dutch flag ain't no orange innit?
Orange is the colour of the Dutch royal family.
There's no green and gold in our flag but they are clearly "Aussie" colours.


The fact that this change can even generate such debate against the policy shows how poorly thought out it was.
If it's about protecting the image of the game and stopping negative ethnic influences then make a policy based on certain behaviours, don't word the policy in way that means the eastern European backed clubs have no wiggle room to make changes unless your planning to enforce the same strictness on all clubs.

How can the FFA let the roar make these changes but then quash anything another club plans to do?

plague
20-08-2014, 06:56 PM
Orange is the colour of the Dutch royal family.
There's no green and gold in our flag but they are clearly "Aussie" colours.


The fact that this change can even generate such debate against the policy shows how poorly thought out it was.
If it's about protecting the image of the game and stopping negative ethnic influences then make a policy based on certain behaviours, don't word the policy in way that means the eastern European backed clubs have no wiggle room to make changes unless your planning to enforce the same strictness on all clubs.

How can the FFA let the roar make these changes but then quash anything another club plans to do?


They should just start their own comp. Probably only cost them several million.
then they can wear whatever the **** they want.
Simple really.

MFKS
20-08-2014, 07:01 PM
Orange is the colour of the Dutch royal family.
There's no green and gold in our flag but they are clearly "Aussie" colours.


The fact that this change can even generate such debate against the policy shows how poorly thought out it was.
If it's about protecting the image of the game and stopping negative ethnic influences then make a policy based on certain behaviours, don't word the policy in way that means the eastern European backed clubs have no wiggle room to make changes unless your planning to enforce the same strictness on all clubs.

How can the FFA let the roar make these changes but then quash anything another club plans to do?

What would the differing demographics of ethnicity of say the Roar membership be?? Reckon the 10k or so members they have they would be lucky to have 1% of them being Dutch Australian/Dutch

Compare that with say the membership base of Melbourne Knights.
Reckon the base of their support would be conservatively 80-90% who are Croatian Australian /Croatian.

I would say any issues coming from the Melbourne Knights pushing the ethnicity angle would be based on the ethnicity of the overwhelming majority of their support

I would also say that these issues in relation to Roar have **** all to do with the ethnicity of their support as the Dutch are so far in the minority they are irrelevant

pv4
20-08-2014, 09:37 PM
But how come a club of Dutch heritage is cool to pay homage to its history yet one of Croatian heritage can't?

MFKS
20-08-2014, 09:40 PM
But how come a club of Dutch heritage is cool to pay homage to its history yet one of Croatian heritage can't?

Because the Croatian club is a shit stirring and looking for an argument.

plague
20-08-2014, 10:07 PM
But how come a club of Dutch heritage is cool to pay homage to its history yet one of Croatian heritage can't?

But they can can't they? Just not in the way they would prefer.

GazFish35
20-08-2014, 10:33 PM
What would the differing demographics of ethnicity of say the Roar membership be?? Reckon the 10k or so members they have they would be lucky to have 1% of them being Dutch Australian/Dutch

Compare that with say the membership base of Melbourne Knights.
Reckon the base of their support would be conservatively 80-90% who are Croatian Australian /Croatian.

I would say any issues coming from the Melbourne Knights pushing the ethnicity angle would be based on the ethnicity of the overwhelming majority of their support

I would also say that these issues in relation to Roar have **** all to do with the ethnicity of their support as the Dutch are so far in the minority they are irrelevant

Does the club identity policy mention anything to do with the ethnic make up of the club's membership? Or is it yet another "one size fits all" policy the FFA are rolling out.

If a policy is indeed a policy surely it needs to uniformly enforced. Brisbane have Dutch links, tenuous maybe, but they are there. Unless the policy dictates "levels of ethnicity" before the policy applies to your club then the policy needs to be applied to the roar in the same way as the knights or South Melbourne or magic or west wallsend.

It's not ethnicity that's the issue - it's ****wits - target anti-social behaviours, not ethnicity.

MFKS
20-08-2014, 10:42 PM
Does the club identity policy mention anything to do with the ethnic make up of the club's membership? Or is it yet another "one size fits all" policy the FFA are rolling out.

If a policy is indeed a policy surely it needs to uniformly enforced. Brisbane have Dutch links, tenuous maybe, but they are there. Unless the policy dictates "levels of ethnicity" before the policy applies to your club then the policy needs to be applied to the roar in the same way as the knights or South Melbourne or magic or west wallsend.

It's not ethnicity that's the issue - it's ****wits - target anti-social behaviours, not ethnicity.

The policy doesn't target ethnicity. The FFA have spent the last 9 years keeping ethnicity out of the game.

I think you will find the only ones wishing to bring ethnicity into the football sphere again is Melbourne Knights.


Ethnicity has nothing to do with football. The FFA are well within their rights to keep it out of the game. The condemnation from people should be directed squarely at the Knights who wish to use the football club to celebrate Croatian Nationalistic values

Pico
20-08-2014, 11:58 PM
Does the club identity policy mention anything to do with the ethnic make up of the club's membership? Or is it yet another "one size fits all" policy the FFA are rolling out.

If a policy is indeed a policy surely it needs to uniformly enforced. Brisbane have Dutch links, tenuous maybe, but they are there. Unless the policy dictates "levels of ethnicity" before the policy applies to your club then the policy needs to be applied to the roar in the same way as the knights or South Melbourne or magic or west wallsend.

It's not ethnicity that's the issue - it's ****wits - target anti-social behaviours, not ethnicity.

Could it be as simple as the policy does not apply to HAL teams as they are franchise businesses not social/member sporting clubs.

It should also be noted that at no point in the roar press release does it claim any Dutch origins for the decisions, at no point on their website do they lay claim to the lions clubs heritage, in fact they specifically claim that they were formed in 2005. The irony is that its only rival fans who insist that the roar are the lions and hence have to forever take forward their baggage.

pv4
21-08-2014, 07:27 AM
But they can can't they? Just not in the way they would prefer.

Just not in the way that other ethnicities can.


Could it be as simple as the policy does not apply to HAL teams as they are franchise businesses not social/member sporting clubs.

It should also be noted that at no point in the roar press release does it claim any Dutch origins for the decisions, at no point on their website do they lay claim to the lions clubs heritage, in fact they specifically claim that they were formed in 2005. The irony is that its only rival fans who insist that the roar are the lions and hence have to forever take forward their baggage.

But said HAL franchises play in a professional comp (FFA Cup) alongside those other clubs.

I think you're focusing too much on the example of the Roar here. As Gaz said, the fact that these links and arguments can be so "easily" made shows the policy for what it is.

:rof: at MFAW who thinks MK are the only ethnic club, and Croatia the only ethnic nation, wanting in on the national scene.

MFAW - you may laugh at the legal case MK are putting together but what they have that the NT/Geneva convention didn't have was acceptance of their issue already, as seen in what you posted:


Melbourne Knights FC Vice President Pave Jusup lodged an official complaint to the Human Rights Commission under the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 regarding the National Club Identity Policy which was accepted by the Commission and has been referred to the FFA for justification to the Commission.

MK led the charge for the bs that happened regarding the NPLV, and won. It wasn't solely their issue, but they were the face of the fight. The same is happening here - I think you'll find many other ethnic clubs of varying ethnic bases will rally behind the Knights and the FFA will be deemed to be racist, will be forced to remove the NCIP, and clubs will be free to represent their ethnicity how they choose.

The issue from here is when your South Melbournes etc come through with legitimate, undeniable bids to expand the HAL, the FFA will hold a grudge against them and choose not to include them. But that's nothing new - they've been doing that since HAL inception.

The other issue is they target ethnics because they generalized that ethnics = anti-social behaviour. Which we all know isn't the case, because we know that dickheadry = anti-social behaviour. The fact that the FFA have gone and created this sh*tstorm tells me that when the NCIP is abolished, there will be backlash for sure.

I eagerly anticipate listening in on the stream of the next SU58 FFA Cup game :rof:

GazFish35
21-08-2014, 08:49 AM
The policy doesn't target ethnicity.

What does it target then? The policy says ...... "provided that these components do not carry any ethnic, national, political, racial or religious connotations either in isolation or combination"


I can see how the knights breached the policy, no argument, but I can also see how a white prancing lion on an all orange badge breaches the policy too.

That's the issue, the policy can't be enforced fairly.

MFKS
21-08-2014, 09:16 AM
What does it target then? The policy says ...... "provided that these components do not carry any ethnic, national, political, racial or religious connotations either in isolation or combination"


I can see how the knights breached the policy, no argument, but I can also see how a white prancing lion on an all orange badge breaches the policy too.

That's the issue, the policy can't be enforced fairly.

The policy targets keeping ethnicity and Football as two separate entities.


Just like the old chestnut sports and politics shouldn't mix etc



To me the Roar issue is drawing a rather long bow to claim the ethnic line.

Orange has been a key component of their image since they ditched that horrid maroon orange white farce they originally had when the HAL started.

The Lion has always been a part of their image since day 1 of the HAL.

To claim this evolution of their image it is ethnically aligned is drawing a really long bow when these elements have been a key part of their image for a while now

MFKS
21-08-2014, 09:37 AM
:rof: at MFAW who thinks MK are the only ethnic club, and Croatia the only ethnic nation, wanting in on the national scene.


MFAW - you may laugh at the legal case MK are putting together but what they have that the NT/Geneva convention didn't have was acceptance of their issue already, as seen in what you posted:



MK led the charge for the bs that happened regarding the NPLV, and won. It wasn't solely their issue, but they were the face of the fight. The same is happening here - I think you'll find many other ethnic clubs of varying ethnic bases will rally behind the Knights and the FFA will be deemed to be racist, will be forced to remove the NCIP, and clubs will be free to represent their ethnicity how they choose.

The issue from here is when your South Melbournes etc come through with legitimate, undeniable bids to expand the HAL, the FFA will hold a grudge against them and choose not to include them. But that's nothing new - they've been doing that since HAL inception.

The other issue is they target ethnics because they generalized that ethnics = anti-social behaviour. Which we all know isn't the case, because we know that dickheadry = anti-social behaviour. The fact that the FFA have gone and created this sh*tstorm tells me that when the NCIP is abolished, there will be backlash for sure.

I eagerly anticipate listening in on the stream of the next SU58 FFA Cup game :rof:

Just because the humans rights panel have accepted the claims they have presented doesn't mean they are ANY certainties to win their case. Their are two sides to every argument and this panel has heard one side. It is now up to the FFA to respond and put forward their position.

As for your claims they are targeting ethnics.

Can someone explain to me why a football club in a multicultural country needs to be revolve around and identify as one particular ethnic group at the expense of the 200 or so other nationalities that form this country??


A forward thinking club would be looking to expand and diversify its base to include all peoples yet you have this particularly club that wishes to actually try and make itself more of an ethnically revolved entity than what it currently is.


As for MK's efforts to get changes to the NPL stopped well some of those changes have since gone through in other states without issues. Being the ring leader to harness the fears of change to garner support is more of a reflection of their attitude to the game in this country. Considering their club would probably be strong enough and big enough to adapt and prosper under the changes what exactly are their motivations to prevent something that is going to provide their club with opportunities to prosper??

pv4
21-08-2014, 09:38 AM
FTR I fail to see how MK breached the policy with their FFA Cup kits. In history, Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club have contributed more to MK, and football in Australia, then I daresay any other sponsor featured on an FFA Cup kit.

As MFAW's post showed, the sponsor was accepted and approved as a legitimate sponsor:


After communication between the Club and the FFA, the club demonstrated that FFA Cup major sponsor Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club Inc. is acceptable under The National Club Identity Policy (NCIP). The federation then released a memo on Thursday 24th July (five days before the match) stating that they would “only approve a Club’s Playing Strip as it appeared in their Member Federation 2014 league or cup competition, at the time of qualification to the Westfield FFA Cup 2014.”

And the note from the NCIP on the issue (clause 4):


A Club must not use, advertise or promote (or permit any other person or entity to use, advertise or promote) any ethnic, racial, religious or political identifiers in connection or association with the Club. The prohibition in this clause 4 does not apply to the legitimate promotion of a Club Sponsor or the use of a name, logo or emblem that has been approved in accordance with clause 3.

So Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club was approved to be a legitimate sponsor, but the reason the FFA originally gave for not allowing MK to have them on their kits was they wouldn't allow new kits, and new sponsors, for "any" team for the FFA Cup (but let's ignore the fact that Brisbane Strikers had a new kit with new sponsors for it, shall we FFA?).

Let's think about this for a second though - the FFA originally told MK that no new sponsors would be allowed on kits for the Cup. Imagine you're Broadmeadow Magic, you go to, for example, Centennial Coal and say "hey, we're on the telly box next week for the FFA Cup. Sponsor us" and Centennial Coal say "wow, that exposure. We will give you $10k to put our logo on your jersey". Sounds like the ideal situation, right? An extra sponsorship for a one-off game, you can use those funds to hire caterers or maybe invest back into facilities or grassroots or whatever. And the FFA claim that it is not allowed, and will be prevented from happening? You wot m8? That actually sounds like the opposite of what the FFA would want to happen. If that hypothetical sponsorship thing happened, the FFA should be doing fxxxing backflips that they've created something from nothing (the cup) and the game is growing because of it.

So then after all that, the FFA a week or two later said "nah, it was the NCIP that stopped MK from doing it".

So tl;dr - FFA approve sponsor, say it passes the NCIP. FFA deny MK to use sponsor, say not allowed new kits and sponsors even though other teams had new kits and sponsors. FFA then said breached NCIP. Horsesh*t the lot of it.

pv4
21-08-2014, 09:42 AM
TIL: MFAW wants to change the name of ChinaTown to AustraliaTown

MFKS
21-08-2014, 11:45 AM
FTR I fail to see how MK breached the policy with their FFA Cup kits. In history, Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club have contributed more to MK, and football in Australia, then I daresay any other sponsor featured on an FFA Cup kit.

As MFAW's post showed, the sponsor was accepted and approved as a legitimate sponsor:



And the note from the NCIP on the issue (clause 4):



So Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club was approved to be a legitimate sponsor, but the reason the FFA originally gave for not allowing MK to have them on their kits was they wouldn't allow new kits, and new sponsors, for "any" team for the FFA Cup (but let's ignore the fact that Brisbane Strikers had a new kit with new sponsors for it, shall we FFA?).

Let's think about this for a second though - the FFA originally told MK that no new sponsors would be allowed on kits for the Cup. Imagine you're Broadmeadow Magic, you go to, for example, Centennial Coal and say "hey, we're on the telly box next week for the FFA Cup. Sponsor us" and Centennial Coal say "wow, that exposure. We will give you $10k to put our logo on your jersey". Sounds like the ideal situation, right? An extra sponsorship for a one-off game, you can use those funds to hire caterers or maybe invest back into facilities or grassroots or whatever. And the FFA claim that it is not allowed, and will be prevented from happening? You wot m8? That actually sounds like the opposite of what the FFA would want to happen. If that hypothetical sponsorship thing happened, the FFA should be doing fxxxing backflips that they've created something from nothing (the cup) and the game is growing because of it.

So then after all that, the FFA a week or two later said "nah, it was the NCIP that stopped MK from doing it".

So tl;dr - FFA approve sponsor, say it passes the NCIP. FFA deny MK to use sponsor, say not allowed new kits and sponsors even though other teams had new kits and sponsors. FFA then said breached NCIP. Horsesh*t the lot of it.

FFA run the game in this country. It is their prerogative to keep all matters of race religion etc completely out of the game. Their prerogative and rightfully so.

The change to the landscape and perception of this code has changed drastically thanks to the FFA by removing the ethnic lines it was once run upon. MK wish to go back to this way of being and wish to be as disruptive influence due to feeling wronged at the changes.

Very little stopping the MK from being non affiliated with the FFA ie join a church league or set up their own league where they have nothing to do with FFA at all and can be as racially orientated as they like.


You talk about their contribution to the game in this country but lets not forget the negative influence they had to hold the game back for 30 years whilst they ran their own race and did things their way and refused to broaden their club which was proved an epic failure.

GazFish35
21-08-2014, 12:23 PM
Can someone explain to me why a football club in a multicultural country needs to be revolve around and identify as one particular ethnic group at the expense of the 200 or so other nationalities that form this country??

A forward thinking club would be looking to expand and diversify its base to include all peoples yet you have this particularly club that wishes to actually try and make itself more of an ethnically revolved entity than what it currently is.



you are so right. migrant groups shouldnt be allowed to gather under a common guise and support each other. if they do, once the rest of us reckon theyve had long enough to get used to living in a new country they should all forget their ancestory and fully assimilate then we can all be like each other and live in mono-cultural world.

if a club wants to saty insular and not prosper, tan that should be their choice.

if they wish to allow their fans to be violent dickheaeds, target that, not the clubs non-anglo roots

q-money
21-08-2014, 12:33 PM
andrew stabber marth is the most fair-dinkum aussie legend out, look at his nickname ffs, and he's the coach of melbourne craysha

MFKS
21-08-2014, 01:04 PM
you are so right. migrant groups shouldnt be allowed to gather under a common guise and support each other. if they do, once the rest of us reckon theyve had long enough to get used to living in a new country they should all forget their ancestory and fully assimilate then we can all be like each other and live in mono-cultural world.

if a club wants to saty insular and not prosper, tan that should be their choice.

if they wish to allow their fans to be violent dickheaeds, target that, not the clubs non-anglo roots


As for the FFA targeting non anglo roots they ain't targeting for a start. The targeting has been done already and the FFA are more preserving the current status on ethnicity being involved in the game. The targeting was also done back in the days of the Soccer Australia under David Hill when Melbourne Croatia and co had plenty of power to prevent it and did little to stop it then.

Most of the targeting though was done and carried out in time of the demise of the NSL set up of HAL so it ain't like Lowy and co have done anything lately of note.


There is nothing stopping migrant groups in this country coming together under a common guise to support one another hence why Melbourne Knights have a social club called the Croatian Club where one would imagine all things Croatian are celebrated.

The FFA as overseers of football in this country are just not allowing the game to be used as an avenue to support this type of thing.


As mentioned earlier nothing stopping the MK setting up their own comp with other disenfranchised clubs or joining a church league where they don't have to put up with anything the FFA want.

Their prerogative what they do.

Despite this option they willingly choose to join an FFA/FFV run comp and then moan about the rules in place.
Go Figure

GazFish35
21-08-2014, 02:06 PM
sweet, so by your logic because it was done by someone else and they're just maintaining the satus quo, this policy isnt their doing.
past errors need not be repeated, nor ideiologies form the past be lived out in the present.

the policy is that a club "identity" can not be linked to enthnicity etc etc, explain how the orange and lion does not link to the clubs dutch heriatge without saying "but they arent very dutch anymore"

if you can apply the policy to all clubs then its nothing but greay area.

MFKS
21-08-2014, 02:18 PM
past errors need not be repeated, nor ideiologies form the past be lived out in the present.

Don't think you chose the best set of words here as allowing clubs to celebrate ethnicity would be an example of this


As for the colours of the Roar since when have the Queensland Roar/ Brisbane Roar the club in question (not any former Brisbane entities in the NSL) ever been Dutch???

Last I looked they were owned by someone from Sth East Asia

Blackmac79
21-08-2014, 04:01 PM
Last I looked they were owned by someone from Sth East Asia

Indonesians, funny thing about Indonesia, it is a former Dutch Colony. Something the wealthy Indonesian families (i.e. The bakries) know all too well, and were rather fond of since its when they made their money...

Achmad Bakrie founded the ownership group in 1942, shortly after which the dutch lost control. At any rate, any potential "dutch" links to the club, would be rather attractive to the group.

belchardo
21-08-2014, 04:22 PM
think this thread needs to be renamed as "geo-political and sociological impacts on world football"

:gent:

GazFish35
21-08-2014, 07:09 PM
Don't think you chose the best set of words here as allowing clubs to celebrate ethnicity would be an example of this

As for the colours of the Roar since when have the Queensland Roar/ Brisbane Roar the club in question (not any former Brisbane entities in the NSL) ever been Dutch???

Last I looked they were owned by someone from Sth East Asia


Key word was "errors" celebrating your heritage should never be seen as an error.

Qld roar original board evolved out of hollandia-inala.
It's why they were orange, and had a lion right from the start.

The same way we recognise our pre-aleague history, you can't ignore the history of other clubs.

The policy is trying to eliminate ethnic references from the clubs. Why is ethnicity bad?
If the policy is to implemented it must be implemented uniformly. There's no shades of grey here, both clubs have links to an "ethnic" history.

Melbourne knights may well have an image problem, but that's not due to their strong links to Croatia, it's due to supporters behaving a certain way.
It's lazy to suggest the behaviours exist due to their ethnicity so all ethnicity identifiers must be removed.... And it's poor form the impose the policy on some clubs and not others.

Grimario
19-09-2014, 12:48 AM
krappa have outdone themselves with the scum kits this year.

At least they don't clash with themselves.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx0cfvCCMAAtlS8.jpg

Premy
19-09-2014, 07:04 AM
I poked me head into Charlestown Rebel Sport yesterday, you think there was any Jets gear there?
Not a fecking thing Jets related, plenty of dog molesters gear and a few Euro shirts, the only thing A-League was a hand full of FC & WSW shirts. Absolute disc race.

pv4
25-09-2014, 08:57 AM
Attenzione: MFAW and others who were interested.

Below is a picture from the team photoshoot yesterday, provided by The Herald (plz link Couscous) with an article about Kanta.

It shows normal blue socks, with gold on them. So no navy socks!

http://i.imgur.com/Qgxuco0.png

MFKS
25-09-2014, 10:06 AM
Attenzione: MFAW and others who were interested.

Below is a picture from the team photoshoot yesterday, provided by The Herald (plz link Couscous) with an article about Kanta.

It shows normal blue socks, with gold on them. So no navy socks!

http://i.imgur.com/Qgxuco0.png

I was aware we were not playing in the Navy socks in the HAL.
My main gripe is why are we playing in the things in pre season. They look ****ing hideous

Surely our Made in China mates can make ****ing blue socks or our club can be capable of organising an order of appropriate coloured socks.

Not rocket science

pv4
25-09-2014, 10:15 AM
I was aware we were not playing in the Navy socks in the HAL.
My main gripe is why are we playing in the things in pre season. They look ****ing hideous

Surely our Made in China mates can make ****ing blue socks or our club can be capable of organising an order of appropriate coloured socks.

Not rocket science

I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

MFKS
25-09-2014, 10:26 AM
I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

That's not the attitude required WLG :shock:

It is that half arsed who cares doesn't matter attitude that permeates through the club and sees us be constantly shit at everything and more importantly sees our GK's where ****ing Gypo colours :sparring: FFS

pv4
25-09-2014, 11:12 AM
our GK's where ****ing Gypo colours :sparring: FFS

As you all know, I've emailed the club and asked Robbie Middleby direct countless times why this is the case. It's not like I haven't tried to rectify the situation.

MFKS
25-09-2014, 11:17 AM
As you all know, I've emailed the club and asked Robbie Middleby direct countless times why this is the case. It's not like I haven't tried to rectify the situation.

We are not holding you responsible. You are fighting the good fight keeping them honest.


We all know where the blame lies.

Management are sailing a rudderless ship with no idea of how to get where we wish to go

Couscous
25-09-2014, 11:22 AM
Below is a picture from the team photoshoot yesterday, provided by The Herald (plz link Couscous) with an article about Kanta.

Some interesting discussions over at Your Herald (http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2580511/kantarovski-surgery-leaves-jets-exposed/?cs=3398) (why not register with the site and join the local conversation?):


Steele wont finish the season and Is more trouble than what he is worth, you'll see...

And how can Steele be his replacement when he was signed before Goodwin left??
If the jets let Goodwin go and then signed someone better or even equally as good as him, then fair play.. But at the moment they haven't signed anyone, and even if Stubbins didn't like like him but just kept him In the squad for when numbers get low or to even throw him on the bench if desperate, it would be better than just letting him go for no reason..

^ What's all that about Steele and trouble?

http://transform.fairfaxregional.com.au/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-36mDshx2U2dAuMR3XyjpW6R/d978fc22-2a34-4b41-9807-1af04c4f0812.jpg/r0_3_1200_678_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

http://transform.fairfaxregional.com.au/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-36mDshx2U2dAuMR3XyjpW6R/b61341e7-ef2d-4a69-9054-3c6418b0a9f4.jpg/r0_3_1200_678_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

For more great Newy pics, follow Ryan Osland (https://twitter.com/ryan_osland) and Max Mason-Hubers (https://twitter.com/maxmashu) on Twitter.

pv4
25-09-2014, 11:29 AM
Steele came over for a holiday and a party. He'd heard of the likes of Vidosic, etc on the dingas constantly and wanted in on it. Timmy Cahill and Carney talked him into it too.

Then he got here, and realised how "professional" the club was and what he would have to deal with for the next 2 years and realised he had made a horrible mistake.

MFKS
25-09-2014, 11:41 AM
Some interesting discussions over at Your Herald (http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2580511/kantarovski-surgery-leaves-jets-exposed/?cs=3398) (why not register with the site and join the local conversation?):

Rightio You want to keep this shit up everyone **** linking to their site.

First person everyday goes to their site and pastes the articles in the Daily News thread and then the rest of us avoid going there at all and they miss out on their advertising revenue from hits garnered.


**** off with your Herald loving spam couscous

BodyNovo
25-09-2014, 12:29 PM
i actually liked the navy socks

as for that complete yellow goal keeper kit.......

the navy one with the gold lettering and numbering though from last season :wub:

pv4
25-09-2014, 12:33 PM
i actually liked the navy socks

as for that complete yellow goal keeper kit.......

the navy one with the gold lettering and numbering though from last season :wub:

The jade one from last season >>>>>>>>>>>> any other

Thomas477
25-09-2014, 09:35 PM
The jade one from last season >>>>>>>>>>>> any other

This. :wub:

The Postman
25-09-2014, 11:53 PM
"If I knew what it was like here I would have stayed in New York"

Grimario
03-10-2014, 05:09 PM
http://www.blksport.com/newcastle-jets

$100 with free delivery for kits. Tempted to save pennies for an E&C as I was pleasantly surprised to see they go all the way to fat bloke sizes.

The back on the home kit though, ffs.

http://www.blksport.com/productimages/medium/2/7589_19411_2127.jpg

joel31
03-10-2014, 05:16 PM
And Birraz keeper kit is yellow...

MFKS
03-10-2014, 05:27 PM
http://www.blksport.com/newcastle-jets

$100 with free delivery for kits. Tempted to save pennies for an E&C as I was pleasantly surprised to see they go all the way to fat bloke sizes.

The back on the home kit though, ffs.

http://www.blksport.com/productimages/medium/2/7589_19411_2127.jpg

Actually as the unfortunate owner of one of those things I must admit the thing is growing on me. I never thought it would

The E&C though is the ducks nuts though

Grimario
03-10-2014, 05:41 PM
It's the cape look that makes me shake my head. Why not just make the entire back one solid colour? Blue would make sense given it is the predominant colour of the rest of the ****ing thing. But no, a ****ing red cape.

GazFish35
03-10-2014, 05:48 PM
It's the cape look that makes me shake my head. Why not just make the entire back one solid colour? Blue would make sense given it is the predominant colour of the rest of the ****ing thing. But no, a ****ing red cape.

I saw picture of one of the other jets teams either a junior one or the w-league side..... Solid blue panels on the back, they looked great.



Edit: think this is it....though it might have been a EJ squad photo
http://transform.fairfaxregional.com.au/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-iKQx4aiD4Q7fvCgDvFeGgz/f2fbd6c8-a6d5-45d7-95c5-3d7cea0ac2e9.jpg/r0_255_4896_3009_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

Not a blk kit, but difference is stark

MFKS
03-10-2014, 05:55 PM
I saw picture of one of the other jets teams either a junior one or the w-league side..... Solid blue panels on the back, they looked great.



Edit: think this is it....though it might have been a EJ squad photo
http://transform.fairfaxregional.com.au/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-iKQx4aiD4Q7fvCgDvFeGgz/f2fbd6c8-a6d5-45d7-95c5-3d7cea0ac2e9.jpg/r0_255_4896_3009_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

Not a blk kit, but difference is stark

Couldn't have been the EJ sides. They wore the HAL design from last season or other kits in blue and red bought from some budget bin shop

Thomas477
04-10-2014, 12:24 AM
That's the wleague side and they wear Number 10 stuff. But for the past few home games they've been wearing black and white for some reason :/

hausmann
08-10-2014, 11:35 AM
Just picked up the E&C kit. Couldn't resist as it is probably the best shirt the Jets have ever produced.

pv4
08-10-2014, 11:44 AM
Just picked up the E&C kit. Couldn't resist as it is probably the best shirt the Jets have ever produced.

Is the material much different to last seasons ISC material?

hausmann
08-10-2014, 12:14 PM
Is the material much different to last seasons ISC material?

Not 100% sure. I didn't get last years because the quality of the end product just didn't look good overall so I didn't really take much notice. I just had a look at my son's from two years ago and the material feels pretty much identical but the stitching looks a lot better, double stitched pretty much everywhere. I think the emerald may be a bit shinier but that's just basing it on pictures that I've seen of last year's E&C.

White panels on the flanks are made of a breathable fabric, the sponsor logos are in the fabric, not stuck on and the gold trimming is definitely gold and not beige like ISC was.

Hunter403
11-10-2014, 07:09 PM
Is it just me or do the away socks not match the Shirts?

evolution
11-10-2014, 08:02 PM
Is it just me or do the away socks not match the Shirts?

I think the actual away socks are white, but because the gypos wear white socks we had to have a different colour. It's not like this situation was foreseeable or anything...

WolfMan
12-10-2014, 10:36 AM
Will say, the E+C looks much better in person than in pictures. Will buy

joel31
12-10-2014, 06:47 PM
I still hate the side bit of white. Last seasons E&C was better

northern_swan
31-10-2014, 10:30 AM
http://www.blksport.com/newcastle-jets-warm-up-tee-njte104gld?nav=6064#

Bit of gold to brighten up your Friday...

Premy
31-10-2014, 10:35 AM
http://www.blksport.com/newcastle-jets-warm-up-tee-njte104gld?nav=6064#

Bit of gold to brighten up your Friday...
What a shame that shit 10 years logo ruins it.

Premy
31-10-2014, 10:37 AM
Will still get one.

Grimario
31-10-2014, 10:38 AM
http://www.blksport.com/newcastle-jets-warm-up-tee-njte104gld?nav=6064#

Bit of gold to brighten up your Friday...

Bit of cashing in to bring some gold to BLK, more like it. That logo is awful.

northern_swan
31-10-2014, 10:39 AM
What a shame that shit 10 years logo ruins it.

Interesting that there is no Tinkler quarries logo on it. Would look good as a GK kit FWIW

Grimario
31-10-2014, 10:40 AM
Blahahahah.

"People who bought this also bought:

NZRL Replica Home Jersey"

Like **** they did.

Jeterpool
31-10-2014, 10:43 AM
What a shame that shit 10 years logo ruins it.

Yep


Will still get one.

But yep

Thomas477
31-10-2014, 01:56 PM
Griff says it all really ""It reminds me of success and what the Newcastle Jets are capable of achieving as a Club".

Haven't had ****ing success for a long time........

pv4
31-10-2014, 02:07 PM
$70, jeez.

If it were $40 or so I'd prob get it for sure, but $70 I'm thinking isn't worth it. Might try my luck on getting a discounted version at the end of the season.

In terms of #kitnerd design - welcome back, gold - we've missed you. #NTUA looks stupid being that big.

Serd1
31-10-2014, 02:59 PM
I still miss our White and Gold away strip

bigdan
01-11-2014, 06:58 PM
Picking one up tomorrow with the rest of my membership kit if they have Tinkler-sized shirts available...at this stage can't make it to the first home game as I have a niece's naming/christening ceremony on Saturday and it would look dodge if a godfather didn't turn up. :P 2nd home game is also looking unlikely as I have a darts presentation that night.

As for the BLK shirts, I brought the home shirt at the member's launch, it feels good, looks good and very comfy to wear. Will get the away shirt with my discount.

joel31
01-11-2014, 09:35 PM
I am not a fan of the home shirt. Looks crap, like a NRL shirt

Red and Blue out. Gold in

Jetmaster
02-11-2014, 12:52 PM
Club has been cursed since we went to red and blue....can nobody see this?

hawk
02-11-2014, 12:57 PM
Club has been cursed since we went to red and blue....can nobody see this?

colours may change but we remain....

GazFish35
02-11-2014, 01:00 PM
Club has been cursed since we went to red and blue....can nobody see this?

The curse started prior to the colour change.

Plans are in place to reverse the curse.

joel31
02-11-2014, 03:12 PM
Club has been cursed since we went to red and blue....can nobody see this?
its Tinks' fault

OmeletteDuFromage
26-05-2015, 10:28 PM
The way I understand it, surely we no longer have a contract with BLK?

Saw this in a FourFourTwo thread:

http://i.imgur.com/5g3LmpY.jpg

Jeterpool
26-05-2015, 10:32 PM
The way I understand it, surely we no longer have a contract with BLK?

Saw this in a FourFourTwo thread:

http://i.imgur.com/5g3LmpY.jpg

Take my money now

MFKS
26-05-2015, 10:46 PM
Hopefully they just go with Adidas and get some decent gear.

****ing over these bodgy no name companies.

Imagine the E&C paired with the 3 stripes :fap:

sammydog
26-05-2015, 10:55 PM
The way I understand it, surely we no longer have a contract with BLK?

Saw this in a FourFourTwo thread:

http://i.imgur.com/5g3LmpY.jpg

I'll take three.

parksey
26-05-2015, 11:28 PM
if anything it's more likely for the ffa to set us up with a nike kit given their sponsorship of the international sides.

that's what happened with the wanderers.

Thomas477
26-05-2015, 11:46 PM
Would take Nike over anything else we've had tbh.

GazFish35
26-05-2015, 11:49 PM
Problem with Nike and adidas is they'll want some big sales of shirts.
Our market isn't big enough

furns
27-05-2015, 12:02 AM
The problem with apparel companies is they also have long lead times when it comes to new strips. The club would have to have submitted designs to BLK in March to get prototypes made before making a final call on the design just before the end of the season. And then it takes until the season launch to have them available for sale to the public. Sometimes, not even then as we have seen with our kits in the past. Also when WSW was created I am pretty sure you couldn't even get their strip in a shop until near Christmas because Nike took forever.

pv4
27-05-2015, 12:17 AM
if anything it's more likely for the ffa to set us up with a nike kit given their sponsorship of the international sides.

that's what happened with the wanderers.

The A-League All Stars had BLK kit. I'm fairly sure BLK are the FFA preferred kit supplier, and is the main reason the jerks went with them this year.

I'll be very surprised if we don't use them again, as much as I'd love for many other brands.

Bon
29-05-2015, 12:02 PM
Jets twitter put out a confirmation that we will be having BLK shirts this coming season..

boz-monaut
29-05-2015, 12:14 PM
well I sure as shit won't be buying a replica kit then

parksey
29-05-2015, 12:17 PM
yeah, that sucks

Thomas477
29-05-2015, 01:43 PM
Jets twitter put out a confirmation that we will be having BLK shirts this coming season..

Don't mind the BLK kit the Jaffas have this season, put it in gold and we'd be set.

ToddG NBUnited
05-06-2015, 05:46 PM
No stripes for this coming season and colours have already been decided on due to timeframe.

Thomas477
05-06-2015, 06:28 PM
And those colours are?

Jeterpool
05-06-2015, 07:37 PM
And those colours are?

Gold! Gold! Gold!

Thomas477
05-06-2015, 07:46 PM
Gold! Gold! Gold!

:wub:

ToddG NBUnited
05-06-2015, 10:04 PM
And those colours are?

Good question

GazFish35
05-06-2015, 11:41 PM
They've said colours aren't changing, so some combination on blue red and gold.

pv4
06-06-2015, 09:25 AM
They've said colours aren't changing, so some combination on blue red and gold.

I still argue they haven't exactly said colours aren't changing.

GazFish35
06-06-2015, 10:15 AM
I still argue they haven't exactly said colours aren't changing.

Gallop's letter.....


Next season the Club will retain the same name, colour and logos as existed in the past. The Club will play at Hunter Stadium.

Read more at http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/a-letter-from-ffa-ceo-david-gallop/yks8107h7era12uig35ty4vwk#mYOPsPiMcQFHuuU3.99

Jetmaster
06-06-2015, 10:43 AM
Colours are red, blue and gold.

The only question is what is the majority colour and I think it will be gold with the red and blue used for trim.

I doubt E&C will get up as the first kit at this stage.

Tommyjet
06-06-2015, 10:53 AM
Colours are red, blue and gold.

The only question is what is the majority colour and I think it will be gold with the red and blue used for trim.

I doubt E&C will get up as the first kit at this stage.
I can live with that

pv4
06-06-2015, 03:14 PM
Gallop's letter.....



Read more at http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/a-letter-from-ffa-ceo-david-gallop/yks8107h7era12uig35ty4vwk#mYOPsPiMcQFHuuU3.99

And I still argue that "as existed in the past" is very open ended, and does not exactly confirm that the colours won't change from R&B.

Gold, black and white, e&c, navy, all existed in the past.

parksey
06-06-2015, 03:30 PM
And I still argue that "as existed in the past" is very open ended, and does not exactly confirm that the colours won't change from R&B.

Gold, black and white, e&c, navy, all existed in the past.

you do realise the "as existed in the past" part of that sentence isn't just in reference to the colours of the kit, right?

furns
06-06-2015, 03:35 PM
As I have said ad nauseum there simply wasn't time from a manufacturer standpoint to change the colours of the kit for the upcoming season.
Doesn't mean the colours couldn't be changed after that though

pv4
06-06-2015, 05:40 PM
you do realise the "as existed in the past" part of that sentence isn't just in reference to the colours of the kit, right?

I've never said it isn't.

Wilso8948
10-06-2015, 12:36 PM
Flight centre just announced as sponsor. Not sure whether its major etc and where it will be placed on the kit but please God do not let it be on the front like it was at Shitney FC

Bon
10-06-2015, 12:40 PM
Flight centre just announced as sponsor. Not sure whether its major etc and where it will be placed on the kit but please God do not let it be on the front like it was at Shitney FC

I thought they had Webjet? Or did they have Flight Centre at some stage?
The picture they put up on facey shows them being presented with what looks like the old jersey..

Jeterpool
10-06-2015, 12:42 PM
First new business to come on board with the Jets. Good to see.

belchardo
10-06-2015, 12:49 PM
Sydney had webjet.

Wilso8948
10-06-2015, 01:06 PM
I thought they had Webjet? Or did they have Flight Centre at some stage?
The picture they put up on facey shows them being presented with what looks like the old jersey..

Maybe we will just have a big picture of the guy from the ad on every shirt!

Bon
10-06-2015, 01:07 PM
Maybe we will just have a big picture of the guy from the ad on every shirt!

:lulzturtle:

WolfMan
10-06-2015, 01:49 PM
Flight centre just announced as sponsor. Not sure whether its major etc and where it will be placed on the kit but please God do not let it be on the front like it was at Shitney FC

I only skimmed the article, but you're sure it's a kit sponsorship? I read "Travel Partner of the Jets" or some such.

Posing with a strip would give that impression though, I agree

Blackmac79
10-06-2015, 01:50 PM
I hope that they give good deals for Jet's fans travelling away.

WolfMan
10-06-2015, 01:51 PM
I hope that they give good deals for Jet's fans travelling away.

That seemed to be the allusion. Fingers crossed!

Wilso8948
10-06-2015, 02:34 PM
I only skimmed the article, but you're sure it's a kit sponsorship? I read "Travel Partner of the Jets" or some such.

Posing with a strip would give that impression though, I agree

Yeh no idea.. Just read they were a sponsor for next season. Didn't specify as to kit or not.

Jetmaster
18-06-2015, 12:00 PM
Email just out from the club re massive sale of last seasons gear....could be a pointer to red/blue getting the flick?