16/17 HAL Round 6 | Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets | Thurs 10 Nov 2016, 7:50PM

[belchardo]

why the hell are we playing on a Thursday night?

[Jeterpool]

A-League 16/17 Round 6 Preview - Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 18 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 8, City Wins - 7, Drawn - 3


In Newcastle – 10 matches.
Jets Wins - 6, City Wins - 3, Drawn - 1
In Melbourne - 8 matches
Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 4, Drawn - 2

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9654
Average Away A-League Crowd - 6909

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 28, City - 34
In Melbourne -
Jets – 11, City - 18

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 9, City - 9

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 55 (54 yellow, 1 red), City 30 (28 yellow, 2 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - DWDLL (5 points from last 15)
City - WWLWL (9 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Nigel Boogaard (2)
City – Bruno Fornaroli (4)

Last Result -
Jets 2 (Trifunovic 48' pen, Trifunovic 72') – City 1 (Bruno Fornaroli 79') at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 18, 7/2/2016.

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 15/16 Round 18

Newcastle JetsMelbourne City
Mark BirighittiThomas Sorensen
Jason HoffmanOsama Malik
Daniel MullenPatrick Kisnorbo
Nigel BoogaardIvan Franjic
Nick CowburnMichael Zullo
Mateo PoljakJack Clisby
Steven UgarkovicJacob Melling
Mitch CooperPaulo Retre
Enver AlivodicAaron Mooy
Milos TrifunovicBruno Fornaroli
Leonardo Vitor SantiagoHarry Novillo



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015 & Jets 0 - City 4 (Mooy 43', Fornaroli 56', Mooy 59', Fornaroli 62') at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 10, 13/12/15

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
City - Mate Dugandzic (5)



2016/17 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubstitute AppearancesSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed - Second BookableStraight Red
2Daniel Mullen11016300000
3Jason Hoffman431224600000
4Nigel Boogaard550045020000
5Ben Kantarovski440233001000
6Steven Ugarkovic550142510100
7Andrew Hoole550045011200
8Mateo Poljak422025200000
9Aleksandr Kokko31217800000
10Wayne Brown550143010000
11Labinot Haliti1010100000
12Andy Brennan0000000000
13Ivan Vujica541137600000
14Mitch Cooper0000000000
15Andrew Nabbout431226202100
16Nick Cowburn550045000000
17Radovan Pavicevic0000000000
19Morten Nordstrand431224600000
20Jack Duncan550045000000
22Lachlan Jackson321115700000
23Devante Clut514118610000
24Kristian Brymora0000000000
28John Koutroumbis21109800000
30Pierce Clark0000000000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Mark Jones - 0 wins, John Van't Schip - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Mark Jones - 0 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = N/A% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Melbourne City Coach Record – John Van't Schip 43% win ratio (6 wins, 2 drawn, 6 losses)




TALKING POINTS:


General

The last time the Jets placed City in Melbourne, they had their famous 3-2 come from behind win.
There has never been a scoreless draw between these two teams, and only one match where only 1 goal was scored.
The average goals per match in this fixture is over 3.
Only one Jets coach has lost their first match against City - Gary van Egmond
The Jets have a W-D-L record on a Thursday night of 2-1-2.



Players

Jason Hoffman has been booked in the last 3 matches against Melbourne Heart
Bruno Fornaroli and Aaron Mooy both scored 3 goals against the Jets last year, however were outscored by Milos Trifunovic with 4.
A player has scored a double in 4 of the last 5 fixutes between these teams.



Newcastle Jets

Newcastle have won only twice against City in Melbourne.
Every time Newcastle have lead at half time, they have gone on to claim all 3 points.
The Jets have a poor record after playing the Phoenix away from home, winning 2 while drawing 5 and losing 6.
The Jets have travelled to Melboune the round following a trip to Wellington on 4 occasions and have lost every time.



Melbourne City

City have scored 4 or more goals against the Jets 3 times in the last 2 seasons.

[halo se7en]

why the hell are we playing on a Thursday night?

So City can play before Brattan leaves for Socceroos duty?

NFI to be honest. Will he miss the game anyone know?

[lquiquer]

So City can play before Brattan leaves for Socceroos duty?

NFI to be honest. Will he miss the game anyone know?

Yes.. he has already left for his Thai Break

[leftrightout]

Thread title says Melbourne Victory.. just a heads up before someone makes a smart arse comment

[plague]

I feel we are a massive chance to get something out of this match if Miller plays Kanta at #10 again.

Otherwise we'll get flogged.

Over to you supercoach.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jones hasnt shown he studies and does homework on our opponents before he chooses his tactics and selections and i dont think he will start now. 3-0 loss boogard red card

[Jeterpool]

Jones hasnt shown he studies and does homework on our opponents before he chooses his tactics and selections and i dont think he will start now. 3-0 loss boogard red card

Maybe he does but his dog eats it

[halo se7en]

I feel we are a massive chance to get something out of this match if Miller plays Kanta at #10 again.

Otherwise we'll get flogged.

Over to you supercoach.

Considering we like going down 2-0 in the first half, this is set up beautifully. As long as Trif gets his two goals...

[plague]

As long as Trif gets his two goals...

Yeah look I can't see him getting picked for this game he's got zero assists for the year so he's garbage.

[Hunter403]

why the hell are we playing on a Thursday night?

Easy answer. To maximise the chance of Melbourne winning. Silly question. Surely you know by now that the teams from Melbourne and Sydney must be given every advantage so we can have a Sydney or Melbourne final.

[rhysd]

Looking like ugarkovic is going to be dropped for the game..

Why not pair brown and ugarkovic?!

[belchardo]

Ffs, cause ugarkovic is the problem. jones is a genius!

[Jeterpool]

And Looks like Cowburn will make way as well according to the Herald.

While I think it's the wrong decision, at least he's making some!

[plague]

Obviously looks like Uga and Cowburn are getting the ass so he can find a starting spot for Kokko.

Smart coaching IMO.

[The Dunster]

Does the scoreboard at the ground do three digits or will they stop the match when City score 99 goals ?

All dictionaries will need to be updated with the following :

Clusterf#ck: See Newcastle Jets selection criteria

[DonPablo]

Are city going to play Yoshi to replace Bratten?
Im still furious the little c"nt snobbed us, we couldve used him last week instead of hoolahoop on the wing falling over all the time.

442 with Coco Pops & Mortigol up front.
The pommy midget & polevault in the middle.
Yoshi to run the flanks as he showed the ground he can cover while looking for a team.
Otherwise devante covic & scHoolies on the touchlines.
Were farked at the back regardless. Captain fantastic is top goalscorrer, so doesnt defend anymore cos hes a striker now.
Id like to have a beer with duncan. And teach him how to catch a ball over head height.
Ive imported better catchers hidden inside lamps. Who knows where jack is hiding his ability.

[borat]

Seriously......can we rehire Trani so he can get rid of another coach. Only took him 3 months with Miller so am guessing about 6 weeks with Jones should do it.

[DonPablo]

seriously......can we rehire trani so he can get rid of another coach. Only took him 3 months with miller so am guessing about 6 weeks with jones should do it.

i likea you!

[au revoir]

Anyone coming down for this?

[Jeterpool]

Obviously looks like Uga and Cowburn are getting the ass so he can find a starting spot for Kokko.

Smart coaching IMO.

Bringing Kokko is a smartg move.

The way he is going about it...not so much.

[halo se7en]

So Jones starts with Plan A and leaves everything setup as per Miller and we start the season reasonably well. Now he seems to be trying too hard to make it known this is his team, his formation, his tactics, his team selections etc... Mark - just go back to Plan A if you want to keep your job.

[evanhayes5]

Duncan; Hoffman, Boogz, Koutrumbis, Vujica; Nabbout, Brown, Poljak, Hoole; Clut, Kokko.

Should be the line up

[hawk]

Any injury concerns should stay home. Not worth the risk on this loss. When a full squad returns we'll go ok

[Jardelsimage]

So Jones starts with Plan A and leaves everything setup as per Miller and we start the season reasonably well. Now he seems to be trying too hard to make it known this is his team, his formation, his tactics, his team selections etc... Mark - just go back to Plan A if you want to keep your job.

and it shows just how shite he is.....

[StannyCFCJET]

But uggs booga for poijak. I think poijak needs some youth games for fitness and confidence

[The Dunster]

On a dollar for dollar basis Melb City are the worst performing team in the competition. With all that money comes expectation and a lot of pressure - and they are not even close to meeting expectation.

[Bon]

Was listening to the radio on the way to work today, I know I shouldn't be surprised by it, but Craig Hamilton was on there attempting to talk about the Jets..
Pretty much spent 5 mins saying we will lose by 3, how Hoole has been the outstanding performer, how Lab is a proven goalscorer.. The bloke has no idea..

[plague]

Let's hope the Jets take some inspiration from President-elect Donald Trump.

[belchardo]

I don't know, losing by three goals seems like a pretty good chance tonight to me.

[Bon]

I don't know, losing by three goals seems like a pretty good chance tonight to me.

Yeah, I think so too.. The fact is you would never hear him say it about his beloved Kniggets.. Just the usual negative stuff about sokkah, thats us - the fans - job..
Would never have happened on Kearney's watch..

[Jetmaster]

Was listening to the radio on the way to work today, I know I shouldn't be surprised by it, but Craig Hamilton was on there attempting to talk about the Jets..
Pretty much spent 5 mins saying we will lose by 3, how Hoole has been the outstanding performer, how Lab is a proven goalscorer.. The bloke has no idea..

When a leaguey tries to give an appraisal on football I always remember the bad times...


In 1983 the glamorous three-match series against England went on Channel 7, Rex Mossop did the commentary and, off air, was heard to comment to Johnny Warren that "if this dull game ever takes off in Australia I will bare my arse in Martin Place".

[Roundball Enthusiast]

https://twitter.com/MurrayShaw1/status/796619699618398208

Good start to the evening.

[lquiquer]

Nordstrand FMD

[Wilso8948]

Nordstrand FMD
My god

[monz6]

It's jones tactics

[plague]

Surprised no ones blamed Hoole for Alidovic's miss.

[belchardo]

How did he miss that?

[Wilso8948]

To be fair it was awesome defending by alivodic 2.0

[plague]

Goddamnit Hoole!!!!!

[belchardo]

Good to see our marking and passing have improved this week.

[weston]

At what age are kids taught to pass the ball in front of someone running not where they are? Twice in a ****ing minute.

[plague]

So glad Kokko showed all that mongrel elbowing old mate in the throat.
Tactic worked a treat.
Kokko disappeared, old boy set up a goal.

Go jets.

[belchardo]

They do know we're running to the left of screen right? 80m backwards ffs!

[Wilso8948]

Katroumbis getting found out in this game. And his passing is well off. Dunno what else we can expect throwing an 18yo to the wolves

[weston]

Why are tackles like the one Brown just made allowed in the game? He got **** all of him but if he had got him on his leg it's a leg breaker.

Absolute bullshit players are allowed to go studs showing into any challenge.

[q-money]

lol this is comedy capers

[plague]

Why are tackles like the one Brown just made allowed in the game? He got **** all of him but if he had got him on his leg it's a leg breaker.

Absolute bullshit players are allowed to go studs showing into any challenge.

Hey man, that's the 'more mongrel' the coach is after.
Players playing to the game plan.

[weston]

Hey man, that's the 'more mongrel' the coach is after.
Players playing to the game plan.

Yeh I know.

**** me. I wish brown would go studs up like that on some of these defenders at training. We need new ones.

[q-money]

fold this joke of a club pls

[Wilso8948]

Ok I was gonna say city 2 - katroumbis 0. It was about to be 3 and the kid pulls out a tackle like that. Fair play to him. I feel for him in this game

[plague]

Great finish.
He doesn't show much mongrel though.
Wouldn't get a start at the Jets.

[StannyCFCJET]

Players not moving into space. Players not looking b4 passing ever and hoole and nabbout both on same side when Brown is looking for a pass wide right. Were a joke end the season now FMD

[Wilso8948]

Great finish.
He doesn't show much mongrel though.
Wouldn't get a start at the Jets.

Na remember we don't need no marquees to win the comp. just budget players with good engines who put in a shift. Leceister city and all that shit

[Mark325]

Vujica is struggling against Bruce Kamau and that young centre back aint up to a-league standard let alone some of the better strikers in the a-league

[sorefootballer]

I really enjoy watching the jets play.

[StannyCFCJET]

Nabbout HOW!!!!!

[Wilso8948]

Nabbout is far too good for this club

[plague]

Nabbout is far too good for this club

He's early favourite for the 2017-18 Alidovic award.

[plague]

Is Kanta on the bench? Can we get him on at #10 yet?

[q-money]

lol

[belchardo]

For God's sake, why does anybody choose to be a jets fan.

When we get jnto attack with some speed, we are making the city defence look like absolute chumps, but we are rarely getting there because our midfield is so poor.

:banghead:

[Mark325]

For God's sake, why does anybody choose to be a jets fan.

When we get jnto attack with some speed, we are making the city defence look like absolute chumps, but we are rarely getting there because our midfield is so poor.

:banghead:

makes ya wonder how we'd be goin with uga in the mids and cowburn to replace koutrambis

[plague]

I reackon Hooles been good. Will be a shame when he gets sent off in 2nd half.

[lquiquer]

ahhh as long we take 9 points v Gypos i'll be happy. Then Mr Lee can buy few football players......

[Retro Jet]

Oh Nobby, Fornication woulda put that in....

[OmeletteDuFromage]

I do not rate Vujica whatsoever.

[Wilso8948]

I do not rate Vujica whatsoever.
Isn't he 19? Pretty composed to be honest for that age. Has a bit of **** in him too

[Retro Jet]

I guess a 2 goal comeback is outta the question this game? :rof:

And what are the odds for Timmy breaking his drought against us?
We are the A-League patsy's after all.

[StannyCFCJET]

Wed be in the lead if Ugga Bogga was in midfield imo guy must be first picked every week

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Isn't he 19? Pretty composed to be honest for that age. Has a bit of **** in him too

Everytime ive seen him, hes letting crosses get in the box easy, or turning over the ball by just booting it away. Sloppy with passes aswell.

[belchardo]

That doesn't look good for boogard. farkin hell.

[Retro Jet]

That's Boogs gone....FMD

[OmeletteDuFromage]

i reckon boogs is done for

[Wilso8948]

i reckon boogs is done for
Ankle ligament damage for sure. They do have a long lay off till Sunday week. Depends how bad the tear

[Jetmaster]

He's a tuff c****!

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Ankle ligament damage for sure. They do have a long lay off till Sunday week. Depends how bad the tear

Who's the next person to try out CB? Cowbie, Ugar, Poljak?

[Hunter403]

Who's the next person to try out CB? Cowbie, Ugar, Poljak?

Has that Chinese player got any mates he can call?

[OmeletteDuFromage]

I dont know how many ****ing times Jack Duncan has been passed the ball, is under no pressure, and for some reason hasnt taken a touch and just booted it.

[Retro Jet]

Has that Chinese player got any mates he can call?

Wot, as injury replacements??
Other clubs would have this sorted LOooooonnng ago.

[Wilso8948]

Wot, as injury replacements??
Other clubs would have this sorted LOooooonnng ago.

To be fair. That's 5 "CB" have now been injured

[NewyTy]

What's Piddo doing this time of year? Back from his knee injury. Serious though, need a CB signing now as Boogs looks to be at least a medium term injury on first look. Hoping it's not ACL or anything.

City dropped off and looked like they didn't care 2nd half at times but nonetheless, more positives than the Wello game. Nervous about Derby next week...

[rhysd]

Can't take a break atm with these injuries. Hoping Boogard is not serious..

[Jeterpool]

How long did city play with 10 men before cahill came off?

[evanhayes5]

To be fair. That's 5 "CB" have now been injured

Im guessing he'll have no choice to sign Jon McKain

[hawk]

Phew, City didnt drop points

[The Dunster]

Jones has ****ed up big time this week. Take back anything nice I said about him and apologize to those here who summed him up the day he got the job.

That midfield was never going to work.

City though are terrible if they can only get a 2-1 win against that steaming pile of shit.

[The Dunster]

For anyone that didn't watch the game I've posted a picture of Mark Jones' game plan.

https://putyourboogerinmypocket.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/fonzi.jpg

[StannyCFCJET]

I thought we played ok today. No idea why every jets player refuses to look before they pass ffs. Also stevie U (**** this ug business) needs to be first one picked every week. He is too good for the aleague let alone the jets and we need to use him why we can.

Also sad to say poijak has become a liability atm and Hoole with his millon touches before passing and his abysmal first touch needs a spell on the bench

[leftrightout]

When we did manage to string more than 3 passes together we looked reasonably dangerous.

We are in trouble next week, Scum seem to have found some form in the back of their caravan and well, we have no defenders.
Maybe Morten can play back there, he did a bang up job last night!

[boz-monaut]

how good is it having the whole weekend free of having to watch the Jets play like a bunch of cunce?

love these Thursday games

[RAM]

Love the game plan to let City cross as much as they want and put no pressure on their wingers, despite City having the best striker in the comp, plus the greatest header of the ball in Australian history, and us having a pre-pubescent teenager in the middle.

What could go wrong?

[plague]

Have any of the football sites posted the game stats yet?

Am keen to see our 'mongrel' rating and whether it is up from last week as per coaches instructions.

[Jeterpool]

:rof:

[StannyCFCJET]

Love the game plan to let City cross as much as they want and put no pressure on their wingers, despite City having the best striker in the comp, plus the greatest header of the ball in Australian history, and us having a pre-pubescent teenager in the middle.

What could go wrong?

That was my major concern and i kept pointing it out to my bro then low and behold they score two goals from crosses

[RAM]

Have any of the football sites posted the game stats yet?

Am keen to see our 'mongrel' rating and whether it is up from last week as per coaches instructions.

Accordingly to Zane at half time it was up, but I suspect it dropped off in the second half, particularly when Boogs went off.

[plague]

Accordingly to Zane at half time it was up, but I suspect it dropped off in the second half, particularly when Boogs went off.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--TURR0ScL--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/rmsqn02tapsybbe6ypql.gif
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--uWwt4yjT--/dr7ojqaejikbcvurszhz.gif

[hawk]

For anyone that didn't watch the game I've posted a picture of Mark Jones' game plan.

https://putyourboogerinmypocket.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/fonzi.jpg

Oh crap it has really come to this.

***SEASON OVER***

Please insert coin to begin next season

----Taito Games----

[white city]

I thought we played ok today. No idea why every jets player refuses to look before they pass ffs. Also stevie U (**** this ug business) needs to be first one picked every week. He is too good for the aleague let alone the jets and we need to use him why we can.

Also sad to say poijak has become a liability atm and Hoole with his millon touches before passing and his abysmal first touch needs a spell on the bench

Not sure what game you were watching the 3 passes we strung together was involving ones where the keeper got the ball. Melbourne city werent at their best, otherwise we would have been pulled apart. Boogard is terrible at the back young koutrombis did a better job of marking fornaroli than his more experienced leader. Hoole is scared to beat his man. Kokko is class but isnt fit. I have to question why we are conceding so many injuries and all these defenders???? Questions need to be asked. Hopefully martin lee can see that we are lacking a bit from the top teams

[rhysd]

Boogard didn't have the best game but has been super for us most of the season. Doesn't help he is carrying a whole back 4.

Kokko is looking the goods but just needs fitness. Nobby needs just a little confidence and I suspect we will see a much different player.

Hoole seemed a touch more effective. His first touch was a little more composed.



For next week.. Brown/ug cm pairing with Poljak in CB?

[seldom]

Not sure what game you were watching the 3 passes we strung together was involving ones where the keeper got the ball. Melbourne city werent at their best, otherwise we would have been pulled apart. Boogard is terrible at the back young koutrombis did a better job of marking fornaroli than his more experienced leader. Hoole is scared to beat his man. Kokko is class but isnt fit. I have to question why we are conceding so many injuries and all these defenders???? Questions need to be asked. Hopefully martin lee can see that we are lacking a bit from the top teams

Not sure you can do much about impact injuries.

[StannyCFCJET]

Did anyone see why Boogs got the yellow card for when he was on the bench????

[belchardo]

mouthing off i believe. just didn't know when to stop the mongrel.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Boogard didn't have the best game but has been super for us most of the season. Doesn't help he is carrying a whole back 4.

Kokko is looking the goods but just needs fitness. Nobby needs just a little confidence and I suspect we will see a much different player.

Hoole seemed a touch more effective. His first touch was a little more composed.



For next week.. Brown/ug cm pairing with Poljak in CB?

Cowburn?

[StannyCFCJET]

Cowburn?

Has to be Cowburn Poijak will get rinsed at CB way too slow

[The Dunster]

https://i.imgflip.com/1e0v7x.jpg

[hawk]

Any injury concerns should stay home. Not worth the risk on this loss. When a full squad returns we'll go ok

too fkn easy

and you do realise we are gonna struggle against gypos