SubCommittee meeting Dec6

[GazFish35]

We've got our next meeting Dec6th -

Any issues anyone would like raised?



new kit - and discussion of club colours / kit design in one thing id like to raise for them to start sorting now so we don't have the "timeframe is too short" excuse when next season's kits start to become a topic of discussion - the ffa made it clear that club colours were up for discussion -is this something Lee also sees as a discussion point or are we sticking with what we have - once and for all this issue needs to be put to bed either way.

ticketing seems to be being sorted EDIT: But enforcement of allocated seating in gold and silver sections is not happening and this is pissing people off.

[Jeterpool]

Minutes from previous meetings were being uploaded here

https://membership.newcastlejets.com.au/members-sub-committee

Will also get this fixed so all can see what we have taken forward and the responses from the club.

[The Camel]

I would like to see the knights colours buggered off and the home kit be Cinnamon and Emerald

[Jetmaster]

I know it has brought up before but people helping themselves to platinum, gold and silver seating, who are NOT members is now spreading like a disease. Away fans from SFC and CC have helped themselves to member seating recently and if challenged just move to the next available. This has been going on for several seasons and is a well known rort - they know they will not be challenged by security and they know this is how they can get out of the sun.

Actually watched a group sit nearby the other day - after assessing whether anyone would want their seats at kickoff time, promptly phoned the rest of their group to come and join them.

Fair is fair - why should I fork out extra for a reserved seat when firstly, someone might be sitting in it when I arrive and secondly, I can do the same at less cost.

Ridiculous that the Squadron bay is treated like Colditz whilst anyone (from another club) can help themselves to a gold seat in the Western Stand.

[Macca]

On the flipside, I've bought a GA membership the last few seasons and sat in the Eastern stand just about every game. Fair enough we might sit in someone's reserved seat although it hasn't happened yet. But if the stand is two thirds empty I don't see the problem in finding a seat there. Maybe the problem is worse in the Western stand given the amount of afternoon games we have, its obviously far more congested over in the shade.

[sammydog]

Fair is fair - why should I fork out extra for a reserved seat when firstly, someone might be sitting in it when I arrive and secondly, I can do the same at less cost.

Ridiculous that the Squadron bay is treated like Colditz whilst anyone (from another club) can help themselves to a gold seat in the Western Stand.

More to the point, why should I have to evict people from my seats every game.

I also love when someone tries to move into the bay with their GA tickets and proceed to tell everyone to shut up.

[Jeterpool]

I know it has brought up before but people helping themselves to platinum, gold and silver seating, who are NOT members is now spreading like a disease. Away fans from SFC and CC have helped themselves to member seating recently and if challenged just move to the next available. This has been going on for several seasons and is a well known rort - they know they will not be challenged by security and they know this is how they can get out of the sun.

Actually watched a group sit nearby the other day - after assessing whether anyone would want their seats at kickoff time, promptly phoned the rest of their group to come and join them.

Fair is fair - why should I fork out extra for a reserved seat when firstly, someone might be sitting in it when I arrive and secondly, I can do the same at less cost.

Ridiculous that the Squadron bay is treated like Colditz whilst anyone (from another club) can help themselves to a gold seat in the Western Stand.

1000% with you.

[GazFish35]

edited OP

will try and add peoples views to the OP as discussion happens - if you fell you've been missed, or misunderstood, please let me know

as a sub committee we put three items on the agenda - but can usually raise more through the course of the meeting - so these points here will be synthesised with the other committee members before being put to the club.

[Cabaye#4]

Not sure if this is something to be discussed there, pardon my ignorance.
But January transfer plans?

Otherwise, I agree with the ticket enforcement.
I was gifted tickets to an open air box on halfway, and then randoms came & sat around us. As mooted above, I dont want to tell ppl where they can/cant sit.

Are we able to get the TVs turned on at the bars? It might just be my bar at the top of the Western GS, but they are always off. Everytime you go to Sydney @ SFS there are hundreds of TVs to make sure you don't miss the action, same at WSW away at the Showground last month. Is that something we could easily fix?

[Jeterpool]

Not sure if this is something to be discussed there, pardon my ignorance.
But January transfer plans?

Otherwise, I agree with the ticket enforcement.
I was gifted tickets to an open air box on halfway, and then randoms came & sat around us. As mooted above, I dont want to tell ppl where they can/cant sit.

Are we able to get the TVs turned on at the bars? It might just be my bar at the top of the Western GS, but they are always off. Everytime you go to Sydney @ SFS there are hundreds of TVs to make sure you don't miss the action, same at WSW away at the Showground last month. Is that something we could easily fix?

transfer plans are out of the scope of the committee unfortunatly - it's only membership, match-day experience and community focussed, not footballing department.

As for Tvs, that is something within the scope.

[pv4]

Kit supplier plans?

Club colours - remind them that 76% of us voted for e&c back when the club gave us a say (remind them how nice it is for members to have a say). And ask them when the last time they'd had more than three quarters of club members agree on anything outside of Stubbins and/or GVE Out.

Ask them for a clearly stated football philosophy that the club is headed towards and to highlight what are the major issues stopping the club from implementing them.

Ask them what the transfer fee for Ryan Griffiths was, Robbie Middleby never answered me.

Highlight the disappointment, whoever is to blame, for the complete lack of Saturday night home games (and night games in general). Even premeditate their answer by referencing TV deals etc, but tell them that the club members just want to voice how unhappy they are with the lack of night football and that should be one of the majors to strive for heading into preparations for next season.

Ask if the coaching staff are held to a list of kpi's and if they are meeting them currently.

[lquiquer]

1. Ask them if having the option of a player to be voted man of the match even if he doesn't play could become a tradition #Jerks
2. Ask them to enforce all away fans to sit in away bay ONLY......Don't like being surrounded by Gypos in my silver bay.....

[Jeterpool]

Highlight the disappointment, whoever is to blame, for the complete lack of Saturday night home games (and night games in general). Even premeditate their answer by referencing TV deals etc, but tell them that the club members just want to voice how unhappy they are with the lack of night football and that should be one of the majors to strive for heading into preparations for next season.

This has been raised and has been done to death. In summary club make requests, Fox set the agenda because they pay the bills.

[Beeen]

Ask them for a clearly stated football philosophy that the club is headed towards and to highlight what are the major issues stopping the club from implementing them.



This

[hawk]

Minutes from previous meetings were being uploaded here. https://membership.newcastlejets.com.au/members-sub-committee

Will also get this fixed so all can see what we have taken forward and the responses from the club.

lol. you're actually giving minutes! well done new sub-coms teams Kutgw.

Not sure there's a whole lot we need cept for some wins which is discussed in that other boardroom where knowledgeable fans are banned from. damn



More to the point, why should I have to evict people from my seats every game.

I also love when someone tries to move into the bay with their GA tickets and proceed to tell everyone to shut up.

try a beer shower, us having a shot is cause for celebration

[ToddG NBUnited]

I really think the colours is one to be brought up, especially with the new kit supplier needing to be found.

Ask what the cut off date is for colours to be decided on, then get the club to create a survey for members to complete for the main colours they want to see for home/away. Have a timeline for it to be completed by, 2-3 weeks would be plenty of time for everyone to respond.

Send atleast 4 reminders out over the 2 week period via email, social media, local radio adds, the Herald.

Pretty simple option for colours could be:

Home:
1 - E & C
2 - Gold, Royal Blue, Red (Current Colours)
3 - Gold, Navy Blue, Red (Original Jets Colours)
4 - Gold, E&C
5 - Red, Blue, Gold
6 - Other, Specify

Away:
1 - E & C
2 - Gold, Royal Blue, Red (Current Colours)
3 - Gold, Navy Blue, Red (Original Jets Colours)
4 - Gold, E&C
5 - Red, Blue, Gold
6 - Other, Specify

It would all be digital and results realised quickly with plenty of time for whoever the new kit supplier is to work with, due to time frames leave the designs upto the supplier, but from the following season possibly have members pick from a few designs for the home/away strip like we did with the original E&C?

[belchardo]

I'd like to know what pressure the club is bringing to bear on the owners of the stadium re improving the match day experience in general.

Secondly, would they be prepared to lobby for some retractable shade structurs at the southern end? cantilevered shade structures with the shade cloth on rails/wires shouldn't cost too much, would greatly improve the match day experience and wouldn't upset knights fans (who probably like the sun during winter)

[pv4]

This has been raised and has been done to death. In summary club make requests, Fox set the agenda because they pay the bills.

Please voice it again as the issue hasn't gone away

[lquiquer]

I'd like to know what pressure the club is bringing to bear on the owners of the stadium re improving the match day experience in general.

Secondly, would they be prepared to lobby for some retractable shade structurs at the southern end? cantilevered shade structures with the shade cloth on rails/wires shouldn't cost too much, would greatly improve the match day experience and wouldn't upset knights fans (who probably like the sun during winter)

Swimming pool written all over that post....

[Jeterpool]

Please voice it again as the issue hasn't gone away

Nor have Jet shaped hats. Which is the more pressing issue?

[hawk]

I really think the colours is one to be brought up

This is the identity issue that needs to be adressed.

"Pick some colours, shit brown for all i care but fkn stick to it."

Pass this quote on, thnx

[plague]

But enforcement of allocated seating in gold and silver sections is not happening and this is pissing people off.

Please politely ask club to continually turn a blind eye to this, ta.

[baldrick]

Nor have Jet shaped hats. Which is the more pressing issue?

The hats, for sure.

[plague]

The hats, for sure.

agreed

[Thomas477]

Here's one for you, the gates opened at 2:20 on Sunday, as advertised, allowing 10 mins to get in.

A lot of people were asking why only open the gates 10 mins before and not 30? It was a hot day and you had people lining up in the heat to get in, and the line was substantial. I noted the members entrance was open, but why not the general public?

[The Dunster]

Here's one for you, the gates opened at 2:20 on Sunday, as advertised, allowing 10 mins to get in.

A lot of people were asking why only open the gates 10 mins before and not 30? It was a hot day and you had people lining up in the heat to get in, and the line was substantial. I noted the members entrance was open, but why not the general public?

I'm not a member.
We did notice a lot of people lined up but I've never been one for lining up so we just walked past the line up and went through to the right of the members entrance into Bay 58 in the western stand.
There was one secco bloke there but he didn't have any dramas about us entering that way when we showed our tickets to him.
The luxury of being old I guess - but hardly any consolation for not being able to thread the needles of chicks between 18 and 25 anymore without using a credit card - but that's another story.
Got to our seats in plenty of time for kick-off at 2:30pm.

[pv4]

1000% with you.

I bet both of you guys make people move inside the cinemas too.

You show people your ticket, they move, you get your seat. It's not your issue anymore. It's like 1minute of minor inconvenience for you. I just don't see the issue at all, hey.

You guys realise that what you're asking for in essence is our club to spend more money on something not football related, right? And by that I mean the only way to enforce it is to pay more people in yellow vests to monitor & police this. Think about how much you love the club, and where you want the clubs money invested the most. Then compare it to that 1 minute of inconvenience to yourself every other game.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I can see both sides.
For paying Gold-Platinum members it would be frustrating to see free loaders come into their supposed "upper market" seats that they pay significantly more for. What's the point in paying more if somebody can just walk in and sit in front of you.
If you buy first class with the expectation of more room and less people etc, and a family or group of people sneak up to first class and sit around you, you're probs gonna say something, or have your first class experience tarnished. You paid good money for first class and these guys that paid economy are having the same experience as you.


On the other side, if nobody is sitting there, does it really hurt?


Would be interesting if the club could give you a sticker that you can stick on your seat for the season.
"Reserved for Jets Gold/Platinum Member".

Guess it depends which side of the fence you are on.

[plague]

Class warfare.
Thanks for nuthin Bill Shorten.

[Jetmaster]

I bet both of you guys make people move inside the cinemas too.

You show people your ticket, they move, you get your seat. It's not your issue anymore. It's like 1minute of minor inconvenience for you. I just don't see the issue at all, hey.

You guys realise that what you're asking for in essence is our club to spend more money on something not football related, right? And by that I mean the only way to enforce it is to pay more people in yellow vests to monitor & police this. Think about how much you love the club, and where you want the clubs money invested the most. Then compare it to that 1 minute of inconvenience to yourself every other game.

If people just moved on sure - but sometimes you get some nasty pushback from some who look at you as if you are backward and either huff and puff or say "look at all the seats".

Last season for example we had about a dozen Wanderers sitting in the gold seats singing their songs and jumping up and down and letting everyone know about it - not "1 minute" but for 120 mins. That is not to be expected in an area local people pay good money for. Con had seccos at every entrance in the good old days.

We are seen as a soft touch - imagine Wanderers fans being allowed to sit amongst Smurfs glitterati or Victory member bays?

Am I a middle class snob - you betcha.

[The Dunster]

Club needs to start making Beluga Caviar available on game days to keep the Gold - Platinum members happy. I mean it's bad enough they have to share a stadium with poor people let alone not be able to enjoy some quality snacks during the game.

[GazFish35]

3-5 seccos could sweep through the bay checking tickets and punting those with incorrect tickets. like they used to do in active areas for no reason at all.

[plague]

Wonder how many of you lot on here complaining about people stealing free seat upgrades illegally download music or stream movies or tv, or pocket money they find on the ground?


Prob none of you huh.

[ToddG NBUnited]

I've started a survey about our colours moving forward for the sub committee to present the results to the club. It's only 9 questions, and should take you no more than 5 minutes.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3DJ7CPT

[The Dunster]

Wonder how many of you lot on here complaining about people stealing free seat upgrades illegally download music or stream movies or tv, or pocket money they find on the ground? Prob none of you huh.

99.9999999999999999999%

[The Dunster]

I've started a survey about our colours moving forward for the sub committee to present the results to the club. It's only 9 questions, and should take you no more than 5 minutes.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3DJ7CPT

Completed.

[Jeterpool]

I bet both of you guys make people move inside the cinemas too.

You show people your ticket, they move, you get your seat. It's not your issue anymore. It's like 1minute of minor inconvenience for you. I just don't see the issue at all, hey.

You guys realise that what you're asking for in essence is our club to spend more money on something not football related, right? And by that I mean the only way to enforce it is to pay more people in yellow vests to monitor & police this. Think about how much you love the club, and where you want the clubs money invested the most. Then compare it to that 1 minute of inconvenience to yourself every other game.

I know I could reduce my membership level from Silver to GA and go and sit in the stands because I know my ticket is going to be checked.

The way I look at it, are these people actually ripping the club off by taking that mindset? There's $80 difference between Red ($170) and Silver single adult membership but honestly, most of the Eastern bay is Gold so that a difference of $180.

If there are, for this example, 100 people who do take this approach every year and sit in the gold bays for a season despite having a GA card, the club are missing out on $11,800 in revenue. My bet is there are lots more that 100 who do it. Not to mention the blow-ins that go to the odd match.

We're actually ripping our own club off. This amount, when added up each year across all ticket classes, could fund some additional training gear, a few extra school visits, some increased advertising or even a coach or support staff. Would the amount we gain be off-set by additional security? Maybe. Would policing the ticketing harder actually drive people away? Perhaps.

So instead of thinking "it's a two-minute inconvenience" I'm actually looking at it as we're limiting the ability of our club to progress by not allowing them to maximise the match day revenue..

Not only that, but on a plane, I can't pay for a standard seat and expect to walk into first class and sit where I want.

[Jetmaster]

Wonder how many of you lot on here complaining about people stealing free seat upgrades illegally download music or stream movies or tv, or pocket money they find on the ground?


Prob none of you huh.

Let's just make it all one price - the gold price.....drain the pond.

:popcorn:

[halo se7en]

I know I could reduce my membership level from Silver to GA and go and sit in the stands because I know my ticket is going to be checked.

The way I look at it, are these people actually ripping the club off by taking that mindset? There's $80 difference between Red ($170) and Silver single adult membership but honestly, most of the Eastern bay is Gold so that a difference of $180.

If there are, for this example, 100 people who do take this approach every year and sit in the gold bays for a season despite having a GA card, the club are missing out on $11,800 in revenue. My bet is there are lots more that 100 who do it. Not to mention the blow-ins that go to the odd match.

We're actually ripping our own club off. This amount, when added up each year across all ticket classes, could fund some additional training gear, a few extra school visits, some increased advertising or even a coach or support staff. Would the amount we gain be off-set by additional security? Maybe. Would policing the ticketing harder actually drive people away? Perhaps.

So instead of thinking "it's a two-minute inconvenience" I'm actually looking at it as we're limiting the ability of our club to progress by not allowing them to maximise the match day revenue..

Not only that, but on a plane, I can't pay for a standard seat and expect to walk into first class and sit where I want.

Depends what action they would take if forced to choose. Those 100 people might just settle for sitting on the hill, and because they're now sitting in the sun, surrounded by ****ing annoying kids running around them for 90minutes, they suddenly don't enjoy their matchday experience anymore, and subsequently don't renew membership the following year. If a fancy pants seat is out of their budget, GA might be the only option available to them. Do we want to turn those people away? Or is it better to get their GA money and fill up seats?

Same argument I use for downloading music. I download music that I wouldn't buy, so the artist isn't disadvantaged. If anything, it helps me find way more artists that I end up liking because I can sample more of their product. If I like an artist enough, I trust that I'll like a new album and I buy, and if it means I end up paying for tickets to see them live as well, they win in the long run.

[plague]

Let's just make it all one price - the gold price.....drain the pond.

:popcorn:

Wealth distribution.

At least Hawk puts a lock on his private suite to keep the unwashed out.

[plague]

Same argument I use for downloading music. I download music that I wouldn't buy, so the artist isn't disadvantaged. If anything, it helps me find way more artists that I end up liking because I can sample more of their product. If I like an artist enough, I trust that I'll like a new album and I buy, and if it means I end up paying for tickets to see them live as well, they win in the long run.

I appreciate your honesty on this but holy hell my man that is the worst thing I've ever read.

[Jeterpool]

Depends what action they would take if forced to choose. Those 100 people might just settle for sitting on the hill, and because they're now sitting in the sun, surrounded by ****ing annoying kids running around them for 90minutes, they suddenly don't enjoy their matchday experience anymore, and subsequently don't renew membership the following year. If a fancy pants seat is out of their budget, GA might be the only option available to them. Do we want to turn those people away? Or is it better to get their GA money and fill up seats?
.

I can understand that. I suggest that's the attitude of the club too.

[Macca]

I appreciate your honesty on this but holy hell my man that is the worst thing I've ever read.

A little off topic from the thread. But I think the music piracy thing is just a culture. A lot of people grew up buying a lot of records/cd's and finding music that way. Personally, I find it hard to justify going and buying a CD when I can jump on youtube and listen to whatever I want whenever I want. And by extension, if I can do that, to the consumer there's little difference between that and piracy.

As many people have noted and companies have discovered though, often the primary driver isn't lack of willingness to pay but the overwhelming convenience of it. Thus the rise of services based around the consumer's needs, from music streaming like Pandora, Spotify, Google music etc to Netflix, Stan and whatever else is out there. Apparently the artists make a pittance from these most of the time. But its better than nothing and is often a precursor to actual sales, live music attendance, merch sales etc. if people like what they're getting.

Not sure if there's a parallel to draw here to Jets so I don't think I'll bother trying

[plague]

A little off topic from the thread. But I think the music piracy thing is just a culture.

Not sure if there's a parallel to draw here to Jets so I don't think I'll bother trying

No, I think you've drawn a great parallel.
People just have that attitude that if they can have it, they take it.
It's still stealing, and it's illegal, but the old 'victimless crime' chestnut gets rolled out everytime and we are all cool cool with it................................................ .............................right up until we are the ones affected.

[halo se7en]

I appreciate your honesty on this but holy hell my man that is the worst thing I've ever read.

Really? You need to read more :rof:

I could run through maybe 30-40 artists that I've found & subsequently bought music from that I wouldn't have otherwise known about if it wasn't for downloading their stuff first - mind you, I'm going back a few years before Pandora, Soundcloud etc all popped up so it's much easier to find new music now without illegally downloading.

[plague]

Really? You need to read more :rof:


Yeah sorry that was a bit over the top plus it pretty much assumes The Member never existed which would be remiss of me.

[lquiquer]

I doubt the subcommittee is keen to discuss music on the 6th?... But I might be wrong...:grin:

[halo se7en]

No, I think you've drawn a great parallel.
People just have that attitude that if they can have it, they take it.
It's still stealing, and it's illegal, but the old 'victimless crime' chestnut gets rolled out everytime and we are all cool cool with it................................................ .............................right up until we are the ones affected.

I think the moral high horse for downloading music bolted years ago.

And usually those sitting on the horse are the same people who drift above the speed limit every now and then, cross the road on a red light, photocopy stuff out of books, keep the extra change they got from a checkout chick.... and so on, blah blah blah....

Anyway, you like to show disgust but don't offer much else. Back to the Jets, why is the seat thing a problem? I have a problem with people who are in the wrong seats and refuse to move for the actual ticketholders, but otherwise, what's the issue?

And I do hope the subcomm get something out of this discussion as to whether it's worth raising or not.... rather than me just derailing a thread :)

[plague]

Anyway, you like to show disgust but don't offer much else. Back to the Jets, why is the seat thing a problem? I have a problem with people who are in the wrong seats and refuse to move for the actual ticketholders, but otherwise, what's the issue?


Nah, no disgust. I just marvel how some people justify their actions. It's always an interesting discussion.

The seat thing is a problem for 'fans' paying top dollar for something then seeing someone getting the same product much cheaper.
The question to the club is whether they will look after the fans who paid top dollar by policing the system (and risk losing fans who don't want to pay top dollar), or letting it stay as is and risking revenue from the fans who save the cash and do the same rort.

I think it's a valid question.

[Wilso8948]

I honestly don't see a massive problem with it. Its up to the club. People will always try and get something for nothing. I do the exact opposite. I have a Silver membership and sit in the angled bay that I think is GA. I avoid the sun and the little one can run around a bit without pissing too many people off. I get a seat and I'm happy.

If the Jets start winning and becoming a powerhouse and all of a sudden we have night games with packed stadiums I fully expect whoever sits in my Eastern grandstand seat to GTFO. I also have the assurance that my seat is there for all those times the Jets make the finals and even better yet get a home semi.

LOL

[pv4]

I know I could reduce my membership level from Silver to GA and go and sit in the stands because I know my ticket is going to be checked.

The way I look at it, are these people actually ripping the club off by taking that mindset? There's $80 difference between Red ($170) and Silver single adult membership but honestly, most of the Eastern bay is Gold so that a difference of $180.

If there are, for this example, 100 people who do take this approach every year and sit in the gold bays for a season despite having a GA card, the club are missing out on $11,800 in revenue. My bet is there are lots more that 100 who do it. Not to mention the blow-ins that go to the odd match.

We're actually ripping our own club off. This amount, when added up each year across all ticket classes, could fund some additional training gear, a few extra school visits, some increased advertising or even a coach or support staff. Would the amount we gain be off-set by additional security? Maybe. Would policing the ticketing harder actually drive people away? Perhaps.

So instead of thinking "it's a two-minute inconvenience" I'm actually looking at it as we're limiting the ability of our club to progress by not allowing them to maximise the match day revenue..

Not only that, but on a plane, I can't pay for a standard seat and expect to walk into first class and sit where I want.

Genuinely sounds like you're asking people not to go to games and make the most out of it to me.

[GazFish35]

If nothing else this discussion shows how the club decision makers are ****ed no matter their course of action.

Spose it comes down to them being transparent in the principles they use to guide their decisions.

Maybe if enforcing seating is too difficult, making gold memberships more valuable in terms of merch, discounts, access to players, special events etc. might be the way to make sure those paying for the premium seats feel like they're getting better value for money.

[The Dunster]

I know I could reduce my membership level from Silver to GA and go and sit in the stands because I know my ticket is going to be checked.

The way I look at it, are these people actually ripping the club off by taking that mindset? There's $80 difference between Red ($170) and Silver single adult membership but honestly, most of the Eastern bay is Gold so that a difference of $180.

If there are, for this example, 100 people who do take this approach every year and sit in the gold bays for a season despite having a GA card, the club are missing out on $11,800 in revenue. My bet is there are lots more that 100 who do it. Not to mention the blow-ins that go to the odd match.

We're actually ripping our own club off. This amount, when added up each year across all ticket classes, could fund some additional training gear, a few extra school visits, some increased advertising or even a coach or support staff. Would the amount we gain be off-set by additional security? Maybe. Would policing the ticketing harder actually drive people away? Perhaps.

So instead of thinking "it's a two-minute inconvenience" I'm actually looking at it as we're limiting the ability of our club to progress by not allowing them to maximise the match day revenue..

Not only that, but on a plane, I can't pay for a standard seat and expect to walk into first class and sit where I want.

The problem is that the market mechanism is failing. So that either means prices are too high, the income of fans is too low, or a combination of both.
I paid $82 for two tickets on the weekend. For me that's not an issue but for a lot of people that's a hell of a lot of money to spend on watching a team that struggles to aim up.
I was a member from the start of the league and yes I've lost count of the people I had to move from my seats when I arrived - but for better or worse that's the type of world we live in now.
The majority of people now are as bad as the puppet master leisure classes running the planet into oblivion - and the problem is a lot deeper than people trying for a free seating upgrade.

Policing it would cost a lot of money and for what ? You piss off the drop ins so they stop coming. And if you piss off the gold and plat members so what - the club already has their money so the club has no reason to police it. Because regardless of what they do they know the Gold and Plat types will sign up again next year for the same level or worse of shit being delivered to them.

That's why the club treats everyone like shit - because they know that no matter what happens they have a core group of members with more money than sense.

Note: I still think it's wrong to sit in an area you didn't pay for and wouldn't do it myself. Nor as a musician would I not pay for music I had in my possession.

[pv4]

There are so many great questions and issues that the power of the members have to make our club so much better than it has been for the last squillion years and we're giving them this fxxxing red herring that they're going to waffle on about for 4+ hours and spend way too much time and effort on while ignoring legit issues like football philosophy, club&town colours, etc.

[Macca]

They definitely are Gaz. Especially given the club's past, anything and everything is going to be picked apart mercilessly regardless of merit or intent. As you said, as long as they provide some reasonable justification that people can understand (agreement not necessary) then they're probably going alright.

I think you are spot on with the last bit. When seating in the stadium isn't a valuable commodity (10k attendance in a 30k stadium), then having a premium on the privilege to reserve a seat is pretty meaningless. Yes, not all seats are the same and as I said earlier the Eastern stand is obviously better real estate, but I digress. Gold member only sales (or early access) on merch is a possibility. Something extra in the pack maybe would be a nice touch, who knows what. I'm sure there are already extra benefits from the membership, cause I vaguely remember the lists being different sizes when I looked at them a few years ago. But I would hazard a guess that most of the benefits wouldn't mean much to a lot of people. Any valuable benefit not related to seating I think would be a good start.

[pv4]

Not only that, but on a plane, I can't pay for a standard seat and expect to walk into first class and sit where I want.

People get offered free upgrades all the time.

[pv4]

If nothing else this discussion shows how the club decision makers are ****ed no matter their course of action.

Spose it comes down to them being transparent in the principles they use to guide their decisions.

Which makes it so ridiculous that they ever went away from club colours choice that more than three quarters of the supporter base voted for.

[Jeterpool]

The problem is that the market mechanism is failing. So that either means prices are too high, the income of fans is too low, or a combination of both.
I paid $82 for two tickets on the weekend. For me that's not an issue but for a lot of people that's a hell of a lot of money to spend on watching a team that struggles to aim up.
I was a member from the start of the league and yes I've lost count of the people I had to move from my seats when I arrived - but for better or worse that's the type of world we live in now.
The majority of people now are as bad as the puppet master leisure classes running the planet into oblivion - and the problem is a lot deeper than people trying for a free seating upgrade.

Policing it would cost a lot of money and for what ? You piss off the drop ins so they stop coming. And if you piss off the gold and plat members so what - the club already has there money so the club has no reason to police it. Because regardless of what they do they know the Gold and Plat types will sign up again next year for the same level or worse of shit being delivered to them.

That's why the club treats everyone like shit - because they know that no matter what happens they have a core group of members with more money than sense.

Note: I still think it's wrong to sit in an area you didn't pay for and wouldn't do it myself. Nor as a musician would I not pay for music I had in my possession.

Good points.


There are so many great questions and issues that the power of the members have to make our club so much better than it has been for the last squillion years and we're giving them this fxxxing red herring that they're going to waffle on about for 4+ hours and spend way too much time and effort on while ignoring legit issues like football philosophy, club&town colours, etc.

Very true. We need to sort the club colours issue once and for all because of something once said. If Tinkler hadn't changed the colours all those years ago, it would seriously be a non-issue.


They definitely are Gaz. Especially given the club's past, anything and everything is going to be picked apart mercilessly regardless of merit or intent. As you said, as long as they provide some reasonable justification that people can understand (agreement not necessary) then they're probably going alright.

I think you are spot on with the last bit. When seating in the stadium isn't a valuable commodity (10k attendance in a 30k stadium), then having a premium on the privilege to reserve a seat is pretty meaningless. Yes, not all seats are the same and as I said earlier the Eastern stand is obviously better real estate, but I digress. Gold member only sales (or early access) on merch is a possibility. Something extra in the pack maybe would be a nice touch, who knows what. I'm sure there are already extra benefits from the membership, cause I vaguely remember the lists being different sizes when I looked at them a few years ago. But I would hazard a guess that most of the benefits wouldn't mean much to a lot of people. Any valuable benefit not related to seating I think would be a good start.

Some good points as wel. The bit I highlighted certainly rings true.

[Jeterpool]

People get offered free upgrades all the time.

That's different. They asked and were awarded the upgrade. They didn't simply try and overtake it.

And I know why you're picking on that point :rof: try be more subtle.

[The Dunster]

Legitimate Questions:
When will the club stop signing NPL standard players to six figure contracts ?
How many more years of injury woes until the club admits it's more than just bad luck?
When will the club make itself competitive by actually buying marquee level players ?
When will the club stop wasting money developing talent when they can poach them from other clubs for a lot less money.
By when does the management expect the Jets to be the best team in the A-league ?
When is the club going to realise that rookie or coaches with poor records are not capable of advancing the Club towards being a top 4 club.

... and so on.

[pv4]

That's different. They asked and were awarded the upgrade. They didn't simply try and overtake it.

And I know why you're picking on that point :rof: try be more subtle.

There's no one TO ask at the Jerks and from all reports I've seen, people usually wait until the game has started before camping themselves in spots anyway. It's pretty similar, realistically.

Dunsters post I agree with - don't push away the casuals trying to make the most of the experience.

[pv4]

When does the club aim to be a consistent top 6 team?

When does the club aim to be a consistent top 4 team?

When does the club aim to be in the ACL again?

What plans are in process to achieve all the above 3 questions?

[halo se7en]

Nah, no disgust. I just marvel how some people justify their actions. It's always an interesting discussion.

The seat thing is a problem for 'fans' paying top dollar for something then seeing someone getting the same product much cheaper.
The question to the club is whether they will look after the fans who paid top dollar by policing the system (and risk losing fans who don't want to pay top dollar), or letting it stay as is and risking revenue from the fans who save the cash and do the same rort.

I think it's a valid question.

I think my download justification was probably less interesting than how someone might justify murder (or something else that's actually serious). Having just finished a degree in Criminology, it's a discussion I'm always more than keen to have, and usually go way too deep into for anyone else's liking lol

I can see both sides of the seat thing. I think ultimately people need to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. If Bob is happy to pay premium price, and Bob likes the seat he's got, then Bob just needs to sit there and enjoy the game. Whether Larry who's 5 seats down paid the same price, or less, shouldn't matter to Bob. If Bob doesn't like it, he either pays less and does the same, or he rides his horse down to the hill and he can see if it's worth it. I've been in both camps in the past. As of now, I have GA tickets and we sit on one of the corners. I thought it was a higher class seat, but found out that it's apparently GA. We like the spot and have never been told to move, most of the area is at least half empty every game - we weren't doing it to rort the system, we just didn't want to sit on the hill around the kids. If they start policing it and we're told to get out, maybe we'll look at upgrading tickets the next season, maybe we'll just settle for the hill, maybe we'll go half the time. Personally, I don't think it's worth it for the Jets to pay for the extra policing, and I don't think it's worth it for Bob to worry about what Larry's doing.

[pv4]

Good thoughts halo.

[The Dunster]

Newcastle has the best football fans in the country. Even with poor performances both on and off the ground we still manage to get more than 11000 people to a game.
Make this team a genuine top 4 team like the fans deserve and you will have 20k people or more for every home game.

Why are we still waiting ?

[plague]

I can see both sides of the seat thing. I think ultimately people need to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing.

Oh if only this is how the world worked your boy Plague would be a happy 12 year old.

I too can see both sides. I used to sit in Bay 4 and it was always full so no one ever 'stole' seats around me (and I'd never know or cared if they ever did).

We eventually went to top of the east, then to GA, then no tickets and the overriding factor for every move was the garbage that was being dished up on field.

I'd gladly pay good money for good entertainment.

Fix the football and I think you'll solve plenty of the fans match day rumblings.

But as the lads have stated the committee (ergo this thread) can't discuss the actual football team or its players so fix the damn colours give us full strength piss and let's call it a night then.

[sammydog]

The thing with the seating for me is, I couldn't care less if a blow in wants to take one of the vacant seats around us.

What I object to, and at least one of these would happen to us at each match;

- A blow in firing up when being asked to vacate our seats (or someone else who has turned up). This does happen.
- A blow in asking if our group can move down to accomodate their numbers.
- A blow in telling the regulars to shut up or sit down.

If people came in after the game had started an took seats that were otherwise vacant, I have no issue. If someone takes advantage of a vacant seat, doesn't bother me that they are paying less and it doesn't affect the way I enjoy the game. I made my decision on what a season is worth to me and purchased seats accordingly. But, i shouldn't have to put up with a shit attitude from someone that wants to buy a GA ticket and sit in a reserved area. It often feels like these people feel entitled to the seat they have randomly picked out for the game and asking them to move is a major inconvenience to them

[The Dunster]

Oh if only this is how the world worked your boy Plague would be a happy 12 year old.

I too can see both sides. I used to sit in Bay 4 and it was always full so no one ever 'stole' seats around me (and I'd never know or cared if they ever did).

We eventually went to top of the east, then to GA, then no tickets and the overriding factor for every move was the garbage that was being dished up on field.

I'd gladly pay good money for good entertainment.

Fix the football and I think you'll solve plenty of the fans match day rumblings.

But as the lads have stated the committee (ergo this thread) can't discuss the actual football team or its players so fix the damn colours give us full strength piss and let's call it a night then.

Agree. Fix the team and all the other problems will sort themselves out.
As long as the debate stays with things like the colour of the strip and so on nothing will change.

[pv4]

Exactly, so stop the debate and fix those things

[redwah]

Personally a club identity is important....colors, pathways for local players, junior development, club connections to the local competitions (I think contracted players should be expected to visit junior clubs on weekends during the winter to form connections that kids will see) etc, things that are long term.

I think a competitive team will draw crowds and the seating issue will start to sort out, financial investment in the team so we can not only attract good foreign players but higher quality locals. I'm sure every fan of every club wants these things but after the long period of instability from this club stability from all areas would be great.

[halo se7en]

Oh if only this is how the world worked your boy Plague would be a happy 12 year old.

I too can see both sides. I used to sit in Bay 4 and it was always full so no one ever 'stole' seats around me (and I'd never know or cared if they ever did).

We eventually went to top of the east, then to GA, then no tickets and the overriding factor for every move was the garbage that was being dished up on field.

I'd gladly pay good money for good entertainment.

Fix the football and I think you'll solve plenty of the fans match day rumblings.

But as the lads have stated the committee (ergo this thread) can't discuss the actual football team or its players so fix the damn colours give us full strength piss and let's call it a night then.

This is it really.

[pv4]

Ask them to give more detail on the Scott Miller sacking please. Surely fans are entitled to know why our club are so afraid of consistency & stability.

[Macca]

Unfortunately information needs to be more restricted these days. With the internet and social media people go ape shit over the smallest things. While I would love to know, I doubt we ever will. Its way way easier and better for the club and probably Miller too if everyone not involved just stays in the dark.

[GazFish35]

Airing dirty laundry about a managers departure just makes it harder to attract good managers.

We cant become a workplace known for publicly disrespecting employees.

[pv4]

We cant become a workplace known for publicly disrespecting employees.

I wholeheartedly agree and I think it's worth reminding the club that the members don't want that again.. and again.. and again

[Hunter403]

Can we ask why we didn't give the job to Okon? At least the Coasties have a go.

[hawk]

hold up, lets not whinge about the symptom.

imo, if we are silly enough to continually make stupid decisions the filthy laundry will come cause passionate people dont and wont put up with it. Lets run a good ship and positives will be earned in spades. We are only a couple players and a good coach short of semis

[pv4]

imo, if we are silly enough to continually make stupid decisions the filthy laundry will come cause passionate people dont and wont put up with it.

Exactly.

And the club needs to be reminded, again, that the fans are sick of putting up with it.

[The Dunster]

The club is building for the future. It's all under control.

[baldrick]

The club is building for the future. It's all under control.

This club is a renovator's delight

[Macca]

This club is a renovator's delight

Cosy

[pv4]

Renovate or detonate

[hawk]

swing a cat

[sammydog]

Can you ask when we might win a game. I'd like to set the VCR to record it.

[stopper2]

A lot of people are unhappy with the imbalance between night and afternoon games. Yes, we are all aware now that we don't rate well on Fox and that Fox and FFA favour the big city clubs and the Derby's blah blah blah.
Seeing there have been a couple Thursday night games so far this season (one on Melbourne, one in Gosford), would the club at least consider trialling one or even two Thursday night home games next season?
I know people will say, no this won't work on a Thursday working night/ school night but how about in the school holiday period in December/January when all kids are home and many parents are also having time off work? This in my opinion would be an ideal time for a Thursday night fixture.
Not going to know if you don't give it a go.
I think the fact that there have been a couple games already this year shows that Fox and the FFA are probably in the near future looking at a Thursday night slot when the A-League expands to 12 teams and especially when it eventually goes to 14 so we may not have a say in it anyway.

[GazFish35]

Here's one for you, the gates opened at 2:20 on Sunday, as advertised, allowing 10 mins to get in.

A lot of people were asking why only open the gates 10 mins before and not 30? It was a hot day and you had people lining up in the heat to get in, and the line was substantial. I noted the members entrance was open, but why not the general public?

The members entrance opens early. A perk of membership. Trying to encourage people to become members, thanking those who have etc etc

[hawk]

The members entrance opens early. A perk of membership. Trying to encourage people to become members, thanking those who have etc etc

Thats a pathetic excuse to full paying customers. Thought you fought for equality. disgrace all round

[Thomas477]

The members entrance opens early. A perk of membership. Trying to encourage people to become members, thanking those who have etc etc

I'm not saying don't do that, but open the gates earlier, say 20mins before kick off, with members getting in at 30mins to.

A lot of people may not have the memberships and if they think let's go watch two games of football and rock up but miss the kick off due to the line, they're not going to come back again.

[GazFish35]

Thats a pathetic excuse to full paying customers. Thought you fought for equality. disgrace all round

You're right. I don't. yes.
club want people to become members - members whinge when don't get any perks - so a perk was provided

[goaliepersempre]

You're right. I don't. yes.
club want people to become members - members whinge when don't get any perks - so a perk was provided

not really a perk..

You actually want if your going to get the womens game getting more people, access for all of the public to be able to see the game... its better for the womens team too when there are more faces.

A Perk would be meeting the team before the game for some members.. a stadium tour the day of the both games.. other acccess opportunities... other events... food and bevarage list of ideas can go on!

might be a minor issue but it still is one.

[hawk]

I think the pretty good member admission prices, free gypo away, plus handouts, semis tix preferences (lol), bbq days are enough IMO. We should entice quicker entry for turn up fans to try and encourage more.

[Thomas477]

I think the pretty good member admission prices, free gypo away, plus handouts, semis tix preferences (lol), bbq days are enough IMO. We should entice quicker entry for turn up fans to try and encourage more.

Exactly. First timers who go and have to stand in the sun waiting to get in, only to miss the start, probably aren't going to return.

[Thomas477]

I think the pretty good member admission prices, free gypo away, plus handouts, semis tix preferences (lol), bbq days are enough IMO. We should entice quicker entry for turn up fans to try and encourage more.

Exactly. First timers who go and have to stand in the sun waiting to get in, only to miss the start, probably aren't going to return.

[GazFish35]

not really a perk..

You actually want if your going to get the womens game getting more people, access for all of the public to be able to see the game... its better for the womens team too when there are more faces.

A Perk would be meeting the team before the game for some members.. a stadium tour the day of the both games.. other acccess opportunities... other events... food and bevarage list of ideas can go on!

might be a minor issue but it still is one.

Agreed, though the members entry (which squadron tickets don't work at funnily enough) is at least one visible difference.

The club are often after ideas to make membership more desirable, so if you flesh out "the list goes on" im sure the club would be open to such ideas.

The stadium tour with some players wis a great idea.

[WolfMan]

The stadium tour with some players wis a great idea.

I agree. Fans could see the various outlets where $7 cups of half-cold chips are served, and also where I accidentally kicked over a Squadron members beer as I entered the Active Support area 2 weeks ago.

Great stuff

[Cabaye#4]

Another idea a friend of mine suggested to me offering some incentives to go and watch the women's games.
I'm not being sexist, but the opportunity to watch them before the men is not much of an incentive. My mate's point was he could sit in a pub and watch it, and pay reasonable price for beers and food, and then head over to watch the main game. He wasn't interested in paying over the top prices for 4 hours of his afternoon.
So discounted food & drinks during the women's games to entice more people to a) attend their games and b) more people would stay for the main game.

Bit of a left field idea, but if they're paying staff to be there when there's only 1500 people there, what's the problem with selling more at a lower margin?

[Macca]

Another idea a friend of mine suggested to me offering some incentives to go and watch the women's games.
I'm not being sexist, but the opportunity to watch them before the men is not much of an incentive. My mate's point was he could sit in a pub and watch it, and pay reasonable price for beers and food, and then head over to watch the main game. He wasn't interested in paying over the top prices for 4 hours of his afternoon.
So discounted food & drinks during the women's games to entice more people to a) attend their games and b) more people would stay for the main game.

Bit of a left field idea, but if they're paying staff to be there when there's only 1500 people there, what's the problem with selling more at a lower margin?

I like the idea but can't see it going anywhere. As soon as they start selling stuff at lower prices they'd get people asking the question why they don't do it for the men's game too.

Also I can already see the SJWs / social media whingers jumping on it as being sexist and misogynistic (somehow)

[Cabaye#4]

Yeh, I know, I thought that while discussing it with my mate, but it has merit, if it could be tweaked to appease the social warriors of the world.
I dont see how you can argue attracting another 1000 people to a women's game isnt beneficial for everyone.
Could advertise it as 'happy hour' or the like. Get people thru the gates earlier meaning they stay for longer, spend more money, yell at Jonesy more. It's positives for everyone.

[plague]

I like the idea but can't see it going anywhere. As soon as they start selling stuff at lower prices they'd get people asking the question why they don't do it for the men's game too.

Also I can already see the SJWs / social media whingers jumping on it as being sexist and misogynistic (somehow)

I just don't think they are allowed to do any sort of alcohol promotion due to RSA laws are they?

Prob some lefty law out there preventing fat kiddies being sold cheap hot chips as well.
It's got Penny Wongs crocodile tears written all over it.

MAKE AMERICA FAT AGAIN!!!!!

[GazFish35]

Agenda items have been sent in.

Colours/Kit
Seating/ticketing
Community Links - Chinese community in Newy?
Fixtures - promotion of W-league and Yoof games.

Happy for thread to focus discussion on these areas so we can better represent people's views.

New threads will come for future meetings.

[Jetmaster]

Glad the ticketing is on the agenda.

Happened yet again yesterday, turned up five minutes before kickoff to find half a dozen blowins in our seats including two in Smurf shirts. Wife kindly asked them to move as they were our seats. No "sorry" at all - just a "ffs" and general surliness and question as to what makes us think they are "our seats" to which I replied "$800 in memberships".

Wife has had enough and says we won't bother buying a gold membership as we can just sit anywhere for far less - as soon as the club starts getting results again one day, then we can buy a membership.

I'm over it.

[Couscous]

Wife has had enough and says we won't bother buying a gold membership as we can just sit anywhere for far less - as soon as the club starts getting results again one day, then we can buy a membership.

I'm over it.

Geez, bro, you've a lot to learn about supporting a club in lean times.

[stopper2]

Glad the ticketing is on the agenda.

Happened yet again yesterday, turned up five minutes before kickoff to find half a dozen blowins in our seats including two in Smurf shirts. Wife kindly asked them to move as they were our seats. No "sorry" at all - just a "ffs" and general surliness and question as to what makes us think they are "our seats" to which I replied "$800 in memberships".

Wife has had enough and says we won't bother buying a gold membership as we can just sit anywhere for far less - as soon as the club starts getting results again one day, then we can buy a membership.

I'm over it.

Yes, this has to start being policed. People when entering the bays simply will have to start showing their pass or ticket. Otherwise as Jetmaster has mentioned, you will increasingly have people just buying GA memberships or tickets and plonking themselves in good seats year after year.

[baldrick]

They can have my seat. I don't want it anymore.

[Cabaye#4]

So the stadium TVs are not on the agenda?
Again yesterday, I dont see why they cant have the TVs on and show what's on the big screen at the same time.

[MFKS]

If I need to duck off mid match it ain't because I need to piss as my bladder is full.

It because I just can't take it no more.

Leave the TVs off

Give us some peace from the carnage on the park

[WolfMan]

If I need to duck off mid match it ain't because I need to piss as my bladder is full.

It because I just can't take it no more.

Leave the TVs off

Give us some peace from the carnage on the park


:lulzturtle:

[GazFish35]

So the stadium TVs are not on the agenda?
Again yesterday, I dont see why they cant have the TVs on and show what's on the big screen at the same time.

I think we can communicate your point without it needing to be on the agenda.

[The Dunster]

Glad the ticketing is on the agenda.

Happened yet again yesterday, turned up five minutes before kickoff to find half a dozen blowins in our seats including two in Smurf shirts. Wife kindly asked them to move as they were our seats. No "sorry" at all - just a "ffs" and general surliness and question as to what makes us think they are "our seats" to which I replied "$800 in memberships".

Wife has had enough and says we won't bother buying a gold membership as we can just sit anywhere for far less - as soon as the club starts getting results again one day, then we can buy a membership.

I'm over it.

We made the same decision last season. You won't have any regrets. The management and the FFA hate all Jets fans.

[belchardo]

So, what's the inside goss gaz, jeterpool???

[lquiquer]

Get the Jerks to give the Ground Announcer the boot..........I could commit a murder in the near future if I unplastic myself

[Jeterpool]

Plenty was discussed.

The survey on colours was compiled by NF Football History was tabled and was taken away by the club. The seats issue was brought up as well. We spoke about further methods of engagements within the community and establishing a calendar for the club's teams, as members have said it is difficult to establish when the Youth and W-League teams play.

When the minutes are distributed we can let you know.

[hawk]

funny, they'll be right onto the seats thing but put a competitive squad together nooooooooooooooooooooo

[MFKS]

funny, they'll be right onto the seats thing but put a competitive squad together nooooooooooooooooooooo

Yep.

Window dressing of the bullshit that dont really matter. Yet failure to address the real issues


It says a lot that the club will pay someone to listen to you guys voice the petty moaning of the rank and file fans about the match day experience

Yet they won't pay people like quality coaches and players so we all can have the match day experience we actually really appreciate

#Priorities

[Jeterpool]

Yep.

Window dressing of the bullshit that dont really matter. Yet failure to address the real issues


It says a lot that the club will pay someone to listen to you guys voice the petty moaning of the rank and file fans about the match day experience

Yet they won't pay people like quality coaches and players so we all can have the match day experience we actually really appreciate

#Priorities

You'll get a chance to tell them that. Some of us are stepping down in April so all those who want to go and tell them what they're doing wrong can apply for the privilege to do so

[sammydog]

You'll get a chance to tell them that. Some of us are stepping down in April so all those who want to go and tell them what they're doing wrong can apply for the privilege to do so

How have you found the committee. Worth the effort or just lip service from the club?

[Thomas477]

I nominate the member, if not purely for the lulz.

Would certainly make this joke of a club more entertaining.

[Jeterpool]

How have you found the committee. Worth the effort or just lip service from the club?

The club are listening and the take it seriously. The CEO is regularly there. Thought not specifically stated, things like kids on the field, sorting timing on ntua, members kits contents, members entrances, food vendor discounts for members, % off merchant for.members instead of a value off once are all things the club have taken on board and actually done.

There's more examples but it's hard typing on my phone. If you are open minded, constructive and want to contribute instead of just telling them.whats wrong I'd encourage you to apply.

There's lots going on behind the scenes. More than people realise. I found it valuable. Both parties want to make it work, no doubt about it.

[q-money]

We made the same decision last season. You won't have any regrets. The management and the FFA hate all Jets fans.

if the violator has taught us anything, it's that anything can be acquired using a children's ticket

[Bremsstrahlung]

I nominate the member, if not purely for the lulz.

Would certainly make this joke of a club more entertaining.

Would require actually being constructive and listening to opinions.
Why try to help when you can just sit back and whinge.

[q-money]

The club are listening and the take it seriously. The CEO is regularly there. Thought not specifically stated, things like kids on the field, sorting timing on ntua, members kits contents, members entrances, food vendor discounts for members, % off merchant for.members instead of a value off once are all things the club have taken on board and actually done.

There's more examples but it's hard typing on my phone. If you are open minded, constructive and want to contribute instead of just telling them.whats wrong I'd encourage you to apply.

There's lots going on behind the scenes. More than people realise. I found it valuable. Both parties want to make it work, no doubt about it.
why does the CEO want to ring me up all the time instead of just telling everyone about what happened with miller when i chirp him on twitter? it's not like i'm some incognito internet mastermind like plague. they have my number.

surely if you can tell some internet pest you can tell the general public?

which reminds me, once the women's coach rang me up and tried to gee me up to get the squadron down to watch the w-league. mate i'm hard pressed watching one bunch of losers let alone 2

[furns]

why does the CEO want to ring me up all the time instead of just telling everyone about what happened with miller when i chirp him on twitter? it's not like i'm some incognito internet mastermind like plague. they have my number.

surely if you can tell some internet pest you can tell the general public?

which reminds me, once the women's coach rang me up and tried to gee me up to get the squadron down to watch the w-league. mate i'm hard pressed watching one bunch of losers let alone 2we are aiming to get along to a W-League game, we just thought it better to sort out shit out at the a-league games first :)

[GazFish35]

How have you found the committee. Worth the effort or just lip service from the club?

its been good.
much more achieved in those meetings by focussing on what we can influence, than banging on in here about things we can't.

[hawk]

its been good.
much more achieved in those meetings by focussing on what we can influence, than banging on in here about things we can't.

If we fixed what we are banging on about in here there wouldnt be many problems at all cept argies about colours and seats.

funny, they actually do some stuff for the Subcommitte/fans

[GazFish35]

No doubt.
But until the magic wands arrive and head coaches start listening to fans on fort alling matters, I'm happy to keep plugging away at issues that the club is open to input on.

[lquiquer]

Not sure when next meeting is on but just a thought
Could the club approach airlines (Jetstar / virgin) to discuss possibilities of flying to Melbourne or Brisbane away games coming back the same day. Would have gone today to Brisbane if could have comeback after the game..... could have left at 1/2 time with Brown but not ideal ..

[MFKS]

Not sure when next meeting is on but just a thought
Could the club approach airlines (Jetstar / virgin) to discuss possibilities of flying to Melbourne or Brisbane away games coming back the same day. Would have gone today to Brisbane if could have comeback after the game..... could have left at 1/2 time with Brown but not ideal ..

As much as I would love to see it happen the issue will be the airlines being able to supply a plane
They have hundreds of them flying the regular routes

But ain't going to have a pile sitting around.

Them if they can find one the cost is going to be excessive.

There ain't going to be no $49 seats

[lquiquer]

I agree with what you're saying, but why can't todays Jetstar plane (Browns plane) from Brisbane to newy be scheduled 2 hours later on this special day. Keep in mind we talking prob 4 / 5 games (afternoon / night flight) per year max.

[plague]

Ask Hawk for a lift in his jet.
He'd just have less room for supermodels but he'd make do.

[sammydog]

I agree with what you're saying, but why can't todays Jetstar plane (Browns plane) from Brisbane to newy be scheduled 2 hours later on this special day. Keep in mind we talking prob 4 / 5 games (afternoon / night flight) per year max.

Because unless the plane is sitting around in Newcastle overnight, that two hours flows onto the rest of the planes schedule and allotted slots at other airports.

Planes don't make money sitting around for a few hours waiting for a football match to finish.