16/17 HAL Round 12 | Newcastle Jets v Wellington Phoenix | Mon 26 Dec 2016 5:35PM

[Jeterpool]

A-League 16/17 Round 12 Preview - Newcastle Jets v Wellington Phoenix

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 29 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 9, Phoenix Wins - 16, Drawn - 4


In Newcastle – 13 matches.
Jets Wins - 6, Phoenix Wins - 6, Drawn - 1
In New Zealand - 16 matches
Jets Wins - 3, Phoenix Wins - 10, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9788
Average Away A-League Crowd - 8767

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 36, Phoenix - 56
In Newcastle -
Jets – 24, Phoenix - 22

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 11, Phoenix - 17

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 57 (50 yellow, 7 red), Phoenix 47 (43 yellow, 4 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - DLLWW (7 points from last 15)
Phoenix - WLLWD (7 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Nigel Boogaard, Andrew Hoole, Andrew Nabbout, Morten Nordstrand, Own Goals (2)
Phoenix – Roy Krishna (7)

Last Result -
Jets 0 – Phoenix 2 (Krishna 21', Krishna 42') at Westpac Stadium, A-League, Round 5, 5/11/2016.

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 16/17 Round 5

Newcastle JetsWellington Phoenix
Jack DuncanGlen Moss
Nick CowburnJacob Tratt
John KoutroumbisAndrew Durante
Nigel BoogaardMarco Rossi
Ivan VujicaLouis Fenton
Steven UgarkovicVince Lia
Mateo PoljakAlex Rodriguez
Wayne BrownMichael McGlinchey
Jason HoffmanKosta Barbarouses
Andrew HooleRoy Krishna
Morten NordstrandGuilherme Finkler



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 5 (Heskey 36’, Griffiths 46’, Taggart 57’, Taggart 77’, Bridges 90+3’) – Phoenix 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 24, Season 2013/14, 22/03/2014.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Phoenix 4 (Brown 18’, Rojas 31’, Greenacre 41’, Macallister 88’), Round 19, Season 2010/11 at Westpac Stadium, 18/12/2010.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (4)
Phoenix - Shane Smeltz (6)



2016/17 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubstitute AppearancesSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed - Second BookableStraight Red
2Daniel Mullen330124300000
3Jason Hoffman1091278600100
4Nigel Boogaard770063021200
5Ben Kantarovski752346401000
6Steven Ugarkovic1091277510200
7Andrew Hoole11110099021400
8Mateo Poljak1064164000100
9Aleksandr Kokko523215400000
10Wayne Brown11110295210300
11Labinot Haliti312011600000
12Andy Brennan21119500000
13Ivan Vujica871264400100
15Andrew Nabbout871558223200
16Nick Cowburn981072200000
18Ma Leilei413112401100
19Morten Nordstrand862350420100
20Jack Duncan11110099000000
22Lachlan Jackson321115700000
23Devante Clut1156455412000
24Kristian Brymora1010600000
26Iain Fyfe330220500100
28John Koutroumbis862055700200



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Mark Jones - 0 wins, Chris Greenacre - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Mark Jones - 1 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (3 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 12 matches (3 wins, 3 drawn and 6 losses = 25% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 7 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 5 losses = 29% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No Matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (0 win, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 50% win ratio)

Wellington Phoenix Coach Record – Chris Greenacre 0% win ratio (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss)




TALKING POINTS:


General

There has been an average of over 4 goals per match at MJ Stadium over the last 4 seasons (6 matches).
These two teams have drawn only once in Newcastle.
The Jets have the chance to make it 3 wins in a row for the first time since 2013.
This is the most successful Jets December in 3 years. A win will equal the best December performance since 2009( 9 points of possible 12) and 2010 (9 points from possible 15).
Newcastle's Home record this calendar year is 5 wins, 2 draws and 6 losses.




Players

Andrew Hoole remains 1 yellow card from receiving a 1 match suspension.
Hoole and Jack Duncan are the only two players to have appeared in every minute of the season so far.
The Jets have claimed points in 75% of the matches in which Andrew Nabbout has played.
The Jets have never lost when Morten Nordstrand has scored.
Nordstrand has the 9th best goals per minutes played ratio (1 goal every 214 minutes) and 6th best goals per game ratio (3.17) in Jets history.



Newcastle Jets

The Jets have scored 13 goals in 11 matches this year. In only Season 05/06 (18) and 2012/13 (14) have the Jets scored more goals at the same point in a season.
The Jets have won the last 2 home matches against the Nix.



Wellington Phoenix

Shane Smeltz will return for Wellington. He is the player with the second most goals against the Jets in A-League history. He's scored 10 A-League goals against the Jets, 6 of which came for Wellington.

[plague]

Doomed.
Flogged.
Back to reality etc etc.

Plague and Plague Jnr will be in attendance.

[Jeterpool]

Doomed.
Flogged.
Back to reality etc etc.

Plague and Plague Jnr will be in attendance.

Will he be wearing his new Jets jersey? Will the colour have run from his Christmas Day tears?

[lquiquer]

Hey Plague....What name and number did you get at the back of the shirt?

[plague]

Hey Plague....What name and number did you get at the back of the shirt?

No one.

In fact those Jets players should have Plague Jnr on the back of theirs this week.
Little man is lethal in front of goal.

[plague]

Will he be wearing his new Jets jersey? Will the colour have run from his Christmas Day tears?

It will be the one set on fire and thrown on the pitch around the 93rd minute this Boxing Day.

[Jeterpool]

It will be the one set on fire and thrown on the pitch around the 93rd minute this Boxing Day.

Do you intend to light it by a flare?

[Jetmaster]

Do you intend to light it by a flare?

Obviously enjoyed the flares thrown at Goodison this morning?

[The Dunster]

Wellington 4 Jets 0.

[ForeverRed]

It will be the one set on fire and thrown on the pitch around the 93rd minute this Boxing Day.

will junior still be wearing his shirt whilst this occurs

[plague]

will junior still be wearing his shirt whilst this occurs

What sort of monster do you think I am FR?
Besides, Plague Jnr needs to support me so I can retire. Don't want to mess with the golden goose.

[plague]

Do you intend to light it by a flare?

Was going to get him to stand next to my man stopper2 while he's giving us one of his hot takes.

Should be enough to spark that polyester.

[MFKS]

It will be the one set on fire and thrown on the pitch around the 93rd minute this Boxing Day.

Good to see you not going to be plastic and **** off early

[plague]

Good to see you not going to be plastic and **** off early

Pffffft, I'll be well at the boozer by then. Little fella can drive a manual, will pick me up on way home.

[leftrightout]

I think we will win this, which will only go further to cloud over if our squad is good enough or not and if Jones is up to the task or not. Shit is about to get confusing!

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Smeltz to score, after kicking Dunc in the face and breaking his skull.

Lose 2-1.

[Wilso8948]

Smeltz isn't cleared to play till next game.

[Jeterpool]

The key will be shutting down Bonevacia and Krishna. We have the size to deal with Hamish Watson.

I see our best bet as using the wings as we have been to get at Tratt and Parkhouse and having a mobile front 2 again to move Rossi, Durante and Lia around.

[halo se7en]

Jets 3-1.

[MFKS]

Smeltz isn't cleared to play till next game.
Club can cancel Duncan's plastic surgery appointment on Tuesday then.

[halo se7en]

Club can cancel Duncan's plastic surgery appointment on Tuesday then.

You of all people think they would have been that well-prepared :rof:

[hawk]

Wello on paper looks decent but somehow they fold like a dick chair

[The Dunster]

Boogaard stays on injured instead of calling to be replaced. Wellington players run around his injured arse and score goal.
Jones sees him injured but does nothing to replace him even though anyone over the age of two could out run him.

Shit captain. Shit Manager. Shit club.

Shit khunts.

[Hunter403]

Boogaard stays on injured instead of calling to be replaced. Wellington players run around his injured arse and score goal.
Jones sees him injured but does nothing to replace him even though anyone over the age of two could out run him.

Shit captain. Shit Manager. Shit club.

Shit khunts.

Dead right

[Hunter403]

Someone, anyone, please please please nobble Hoole
😢😢😢

[MFKS]

Surprisingly that would have to be one of the best halves of football we have played in the last 10 years.


Shame our players are shit.


**** we butchered opportunity after opportunity

Jones actually has more of an idea than the last 6 coaches we have had.

Give him the cattle Ledman FFS

[Hunter403]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo any one but Hoole!

[Hunter403]

Normal service has returned

[The Dunster]

Boogard still on the pitch ? Why ? He is clearly injured and is responsible for the 2nd goal as well.

He should have been taken off before the first goal. Instead he goes off after the 2nd goes in.

This club is shit.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

im sorry ref, but what the ABSOLUTE **** WAS THAT

[plague]

Jones actually has more of an idea than the last 6 coaches we have had.


So the last 6 didn't know you can substitute injured players either?

[Hunter403]

Nice finish!

[Hunter403]

We are starting to look like we want this. Nobby a big positive factor

[MFKS]

So the last 6 didn't know you can substitute injured players either?

Millertime never used his subs


Forgetting the result. That is some of the best football I have seen a Jets side play since getting
Griff won us the comp


Jones needs praising for getting these shit ****s to play this way.


I stand by what I said before get him some cattle and we are on the right track

[monz6]

I enjoyed watching that. It Was a good game. The two blokes who directly got us the point cost us the other two. Nabbout was terrible tonight as was Hoole in the first half. i don't think our defence is good enough and a team with Hoffman and Mullen starting can never expect to do any well.
Thought the midfield three were great and Duncan's distribution was good too

[The Dunster]

I enjoyed watching that. It Was a good game. The two blokes who directly got us the point cost us the other two. Nabbout was terrible tonight as was Hoole in the first half. i don't think our defence is good enough and a team with Hoffman and Mullen starting can never expect to do any well.
Thought the midfield three were great and Duncan's distribution was good too

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I thought Hoole was good today. I thought the failure to get an injured player off the park cost us two points. Mullen did ok as well.
Agree about mids and Duncan though

[plague]

Forgetting the result. That is some of the best football I have seen a Jets side play since getting
Griff won us the comp


Jones needs praising for getting these shit ****s to play this way.


I stand by what I said before get him some cattle and we are on the right track


I agree with these points. I am on record praising Jones for the change in playing style.

If somehow he can work out how to get Nobby to set up goals for Nobby then not only will he be a genius but we might actually win some games.


Also, Griff.

[plague]

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I thought Hoole was good today. I thought the failure to get an injured player off the park cost us two points. Mullen did ok as well.
Agree about mids and Duncan though


Ditto from me re:Hoole. Outstanding effort.
Poljak was immense. He and the Ugabooga man are really getting their timing right on when its time for one of them to charge and one of them to sit.

We are a better team with Johnny K and Nobby on the park. Left back kid was good too.

[plague]

Also:

ATTN: Hawk.

I had a good time tonight.

Hawk, did you have a good time?


I hear thats important.

[Tommyjet]

http://images.guff.com/media/24119/7755414.jpg

I thought Hoole was good today. I thought the failure to get an injured player off the park cost us two points. Mullen did ok as well.
Agree about mids and Duncan though

Hoole showed us both ends of the scale again. Talent then pure shit and repeat and repeat.

[lquiquer]

I like Young Johnny, Super Ugar and the Vuj.......Still think Hoff is a weak link (however his tackle in injury time in the box on the Barber was outstanding). Hoole might need to be used as an impact player........We played good but 2 soft goals (Thanks Boogs)......Special mention to the Croatian in the middle and Brown. Noddy looked cooked after 20 minutes.....TheBoot should have finish better, Mullen gave me a scare few times, did Clut play?....Duncan solid....My Willy in 10 minutes tried to impress the President. .....#JonesIn

[plague]

I like Young Johnny, Super Ugar and the Vuj.......Still think Hoff is a weak link (however his tackle in injury time in the box on the Barber was outstanding). Hoole might need to be used as an impact player........We played good but 2 soft goals (Thanks Boogs)......Special mention to the Croatian in the middle and Brown. Noddy looked cooked after 20 minutes.....TheBoot should have finish better, Mullen gave me a scare few times, did Clut play?....Duncan solid....My Willy in 10 minutes tried to impress the President. .....#JonesIn

this post is full of correct and good things except for the Hoole bit. Bloke was having a dig the full 90.
still though, everyone should read this post.

[Tommyjet]

Browns flick onto nabbout was class. Personally i think we should be expecting more from brown. Too harsh?

[borat]

Vujica was schooled by Barborouses today. Directly responsible for the first and out of position for the second. All the Nix had was Barborouses taking on Vujica.

Cowburn offers more in defence and should be starting.

Hoole was honking in the first half and outstanding in the 2nd. The only player with legs at the end.

Nabbout was out on his feet in the last 20mins and should have been subbed.

[Hunter403]

Duncan improving
Hoff. Remember when hammering Hoff to consider who is in front of him. I think when you consider that you might think better of him
Mullen: solid
Boogaard: not coming off either by his own choice or coach's orders cost us two goals. Until hurt he was excellent
Vujica: good game but should have scored. Placement over power!
Poljak: working well with Uga. Good to watch today
Uga: very good game
Brown: another full on effort but he drifts wide too much for me. I think he's better when central
Hoole: from zero to hero in 2.1 seconds. Frustrating. Still want him benched. Can't cross. Corners are poor.
Clut: busy, busy busy. Not as involved on the ball but worked damn hard off it.
Nabbout: hot and cold tonight but worth his spot
Nobby: we are far more dangerous when he is on the park. Excellent half from him.
Katroumbis: learning fast. Sign him!
No No Good : Jones brought him on 5 min too late. We needed fresh legs with 10 to go, not 5 to go.
Jones: doing well but hesitant with changes. He has them playing better. Fitting Kokko in will be a challenge but Kokko needs to play. We need a goal scorer.

[plague]

Too harsh?

dude, its the foz.
if you aint out here lobbing grenades then 'the hell are you here for?

give it 15 mins someone will pin this directly on BK's shoulders.

[plague]

one thing i noticed tonight was a total lack of good old fashioned 'crossing' into the box. it def seemed like the plan as (esp in the first half) the forward players werent bombing towards goal when the wide men had the ball at their feet. It looked like players were happy to play quick short passes back in or recycle possession rather than chuck it in and hope for the best.

i don't mind this approach esp as it seems our forwards aren't dominant in the air.

Although Hoole put one square on Nobbys bonce with 10 to go and he headed wide and it was awful.

[Hunter403]

Plague, where you been? We haven't been able to cross for years if ever.

[plague]

Plague, where you been? We haven't been able to cross for years if ever.

oh i know we 'cant', it just seemed to me that we werent even thinking about it tonight. it might (again) be Jones coaching the team to hide the flaws and get things done a different way. again, if its coaching, the blokes deserves some dap.

[lquiquer]

What about when we got that free kick later in second half and Hoole took it quickly, ball went 5 meters back on other side of the pitch and a throw against us!!!!..... FFS

[The Dunster]

Hoole Could score 40 goals in a season and people here would be saying he should have scored 50 goals.
The kid ran his heart out today, broke down a few Wellington plays as well as making some good runs, passes and scoring a wonderful goal.
There is absolutely no way he should be on the bench. Deserves his starting spot and is showing solid improvement every week.
People need to get behind him.

[MFKS]

What about when we got that free kick later in second half and Hoole took it quickly, ball went 5 meters back on other side of the pitch and a throw against us!!!!..... FFS

Was his goal a great first time shot that caught the keeper out as it gave him no time to react or did he try controlling the ball from Nordstrand and knocked it a little too far forward and it went in by accident??


Hard to tell with Hoole.

Hard to tell

[StannyCFCJET]

Hoole Could score 40 goals in a season and people here would be saying he should have scored 50 goals.
The kid ran his heart out today, broke down a few Wellington plays as well as making some good runs, passes and scoring a wonderful goal.
There is absolutely no way he should be on the bench. Deserves his starting spot and is showing solid improvement every week.
People need to get behind him.

weve been behind for years. He isnt doing anything he wasnt doing 3 years ago. Better aleague players have had less chances the Hoole

[lquiquer]

Was his goal a great first time shot that caught the keeper out as it gave him no time to react or did he try controlling the ball from Nordstrand and knocked it a little too far forward and it went in by accident??


Hard to tell with Hoole.

Hard to tell

Would have to watch it again.... 5 5 5

[lquiquer]

Hoole Could score 40 goals in a season and people here would be saying he should have scored 50 goals.
The kid ran his heart out today, broke down a few Wellington plays as well as making some good runs, passes and scoring a wonderful goal.
There is absolutely no way he should be on the bench. Deserves his starting spot and is showing solid improvement every week.
People need to get behind him.

Hoole could not score 40 goals.... lol

[StannyCFCJET]

Hoole could not score 40 goals.... lol

couldnt even score 5 (now that ive said that he'll get a double next week)

[skullboy]

I agree with these points. I am on record praising Jones for the change in playing style.

If somehow he can work out how to get Nobby to set up goals for Nobby then not only will he be a genius but we might actually win some games.


Also, Griff.

But the only change he has made in the last three weeks is to change back to the exact same formation and line-up (with the exception of Vujica) that Miller had them playing in the pre-season. He wasted six weeks making formation changes and playing players out of position, and now he's a genius (nearly) for going back to what the last gaffer had them doing.

I'll give him credit for getting the team to play out the full 90 minutes which is something they've struggled to do of late but the rest of the changes are simply a case of "back to the future".

[monz6]

weve been behind for years. He isnt doing anything he wasnt doing 3 years ago. Better aleague players have had less chances the Hoole

He's scoring goals

[The Dunster]

He's scoring goals

It's not enough. He needs to score more goals, fix the economy, and bring peace to the middle east.

[hawk]

Also:

ATTN: Hawk.

I had a good time tonight.

Hawk, did you have a good time?


I hear thats important.

We are here for good times......winning is a bonus and tonite was ok. Pappa's got a brand new bag...good god.....turn me loose

[rhysd]

Hoole was one of our best if not the motm to be honest.

Noddy was superb. Can't wait to see the kokko nordstrand combo

[Tommyjet]

Hoole was one of our best if not the motm to be honest.

Noddy was superb. Can't wait to see the kokko nordstrand combo

😂

[rhysd]

Nothing wrong with his general play, lively and created numerous chances. Couple of mistakes but otherwise was good value. Justified his starting position in this game. Now needs to back it up in his next game.

[WolfMan]

I've been a vocal detractor RE: Hoole. But yesterday he did very well IMO.

Hoole seems to be the outfield BK. Anyone else makes the same errors/mistakes that he does, they are given the benefit of the doubt.

Case in point, Nabbout's woeful effort on goal in the first half yesterday. Had Hoole done that, everyone would be castigating him.

[monz6]

I honestly don't understand what's wrong with going to a game and enjoying it? What are you supposed to do sit there whinging every time we stuff up (Youd lose your voice) then come on here whinging even more 😂 Each to their own but I'll keep being plastic and enjoy when we play good football because it's rare.

[Hunter403]

I honestly don't understand what's wrong with going to a game and enjoying it? What are you supposed to do sit there whinging every time we stuff up (Youd lose your voice) then come on here whinging even more 😂 Each to their own but I'll keep being plastic and enjoy when we play good football because it's rare.

Yesterday was an enjoyable game, despite not winning. Imagine if it had been played in cooler conditions in the evening! I went home a lot happier than usual from a draw because it was a good game insofar that it was exciting until the end.
The complaining comes from years of disappointment and mediocrity (and that is being kind). The fans and the football community deserve better than the drivel we have been served as entertainment (as that is what sport is) since 2008. If the Jets were a TV show we all would have stopped watching years ago.

[monz6]

Yesterday was an enjoyable game, despite not winning. Imagine if it had been played in cooler conditions in the evening! I went home a lot happier than usual from a draw because it was a good game insofar that it was exciting until the end.
The complaining comes from years of disappointment and mediocrity (and that is being kind). The fans and the football community deserve better than the drivel we have been served as entertainment (as that is what sport is) since 2008. If the Jets were a TV show we all would have stopped watching years ago.

I agree with everything you said. I left feeling the same

[MFKS]

But the only change he has made in the last three weeks is to change back to the exact same formation and line-up (with the exception of Vujica) that Miller had them playing in the pre-season. He wasted six weeks making formation changes and playing players out of position, and now he's a genius (nearly) for going back to what the last gaffer had them doing.

I'll give him credit for getting the team to play out the full 90 minutes which is something they've struggled to do of late but the rest of the changes are simply a case of "back to the future".

Jones has more of a clue than any of his predecessors and that includes GVES

Yesterday the composure our mids and defenders showed playing out from the back was great to see.

We regularly played the ball into them when they were under pressure.

The boys done this and looked comfortable doing it

Jones also has them actually running beyond the last man
Something the previous incumbents have never embraced

This actually helps the entire team no end.

He also has these blokes also attempting to move the ball forward with speed.
He is gradually showing that he can actually achieve things with this club that GVES has never been able to do with the HAL side or the EJ

[parksey]

Someone talk me through what the hell Mullen was doing when Wellington scored their first goal.

Looked like he was setting up Barbarouses for a drive to the paint with a well-worked screen.

[plague]

I wish Jesus had a birthday every week because it puts the Member in a good mood and it makes the Jets play good.

[Grimario]

Hoole showed us both ends of the scale again. Talent then pure shit and repeat and repeat.

There was one bit where a pass to Hoole was slightly over hit and would have resulted in him having to challenge for the ball... he just eased to a stop, the Nix left back got the ball and ran forward whilst Hoole just stood there. No effort to get back.

Then he was excellent minutes later. Then shit again.

[hawk]

Browns flick onto nabbout was class. Personally i think we should be expecting more from brown. Too harsh?

nope, Ilike browny, I think he needs more improvement like most others have. He has lots more potential wihich is a good thing.

And, that statement about having a full squad etc and getting better results rings truer than ever. Our depth ay lol

[The Dunster]

There was one bit where a pass to Hoole was slightly over hit and would have resulted in him having to challenge for the ball... he just eased to a stop, the Nix left back got the ball and ran forward whilst Hoole just stood there. No effort to get back.

Then he was excellent minutes later. Then shit again.

So you think he's captaincy material ?

[Tommyjet]

nope, Ilike browny, I think he needs more improvement like most others have. He has lots more potential wihich is a good thing.

And, that statement about having a full squad etc and getting better results rings truer than ever. Our depth ay lol

I like him too mate. I can see the potential. He just hasnt quite hit the heights that promised after the 2 classy goals early on. I think with clut going back to the bench it could free up some room for him hopefully.
Basically i just want to see the ball at his feet more.
Anyone have the stats on touches per game?

[The Dunster]

Yesterday was an enjoyable game, despite not winning. Imagine if it had been played in cooler conditions in the evening! I went home a lot happier than usual from a draw because it was a good game insofar that it was exciting until the end.
The complaining comes from years of disappointment and mediocrity (and that is being kind). The fans and the football community deserve better than the drivel we have been served as entertainment (as that is what sport is) since 2008. If the Jets were a TV show we all would have stopped watching years ago.

You obviously haven't heard about Home and Away on Channel Seven then.

[Jetmaster]

WTF was the story with making everyone dump their cold water bottles yesterday? No prior warning after bringing them in for years.

Hot day, good idea to bring iced water for the kids. But no, apparently because one twit snuck in vodka everyone has to pay....you empty your iced water and are told to refill at the bar, with warm tap water! No water station available and of course, the kids are not able to refill at the bar as they are under legal age !!! Asked my dopey security guy to taste the bloody stuff instead. Another guy went through and said "what about the flare in my pocket - not interested in that?"

Get us some more night games ffs.

[sammydog]

WTF was the story with making everyone dump their cold water bottles yesterday? No prior warning after bringing them in for years.

Hot day, good idea to bring iced water for the kids. But no, apparently because one twit snuck in vodka everyone has to pay....you empty your iced water and are told to refill at the bar, with warm tap water! No water station available and of course, the kids are not able to refill at the bar as they are under legal age !!! Asked my dopey security guy to taste the bloody stuff instead. Another guy went through and said "what about the flare in my pocket - not interested in that?"

Get us some more night games ffs.

We just refilled our bottles at the bubbler, not really much of an issue compared to the argument we got to have to get out seats off people who had waltzed into the bay. Saw a few heated discussions in the western stand with members getting frustrated at having to move people on from their seats.

Apparently a 12/13 season lanyard gives you the right to any seat in the stadium even though your ticket is for the northern hill.

Security can stop people getting into the active support without the right ticket, but couldn't give a shit about the rest of the stadium. Based on what I saw yesterday I think its only a matter of time before someone looses their shit and punches on.

[MFKS]

WTF was the story with making everyone dump their cold water bottles yesterday? No prior warning after bringing them in for years.

Hot day, good idea to bring iced water for the kids. But no, apparently because one twit snuck in vodka everyone has to pay....you empty your iced water and are told to refill at the bar, with warm tap water! No water station available and of course, the kids are not able to refill at the bar as they are under legal age !!! Asked my dopey security guy to taste the bloody stuff instead. Another guy went through and said "what about the flare in my pocket - not interested in that?"

Get us some more night games ffs.

Exactly what was the problem??

I took on two bottles of it yesterday

Was pulled up by security and showed they were unbroken seals

Waltzed right in.


Exactly what went wrong for you??

[hawk]

Exactly what was the problem??

I took on two bottles of it yesterday

Was pulled up by security and showed they were unbroken seals

Waltzed right in.


Exactly what went wrong for you??

forgot to take the smirnoff label off, oops

[The Dunster]

Someone talk me through what the hell Mullen was doing when Wellington scored their first goal.

Looked like he was setting up Barbarouses for a drive to the paint with a well-worked screen.

He was trying to cover for the fact that his captain was about as useful as a witches hat in defence due to not being able to walk let alone run. Boogs inability to move made the Jets lose shape and Wellington capitalised.
Boogs had the opportunity to go off a few mins before the goal but chose not to and it cost the Jets 3 points.
he was also responsible for the 2nd goal as well when he lost the ball and was unable to get back to cover because yet again - he was still injured and couldn't run.
Sorry but Boogs thinks about himself first and not the team and that's a major worry.

[Jetmaster]

Exactly what was the problem??

I took on two bottles of it yesterday

Was pulled up by security and showed they were unbroken seals

Waltzed right in.


Exactly what went wrong for you??

Very simple Membah....we take in our own screw top bottles with filters. They are not deemed sealed. Will buy some sealed bottles from now on.

[The Dunster]

According to the Liquor Act 2007: Section C.51

As part of their liquor licence they must serve water free of charge.

I'm surprised this has never come up.

[WolfMan]

According to the Liquor Act 2007: Section C.51

As part of their liquor licence they must serve water free of charge.

I'm surprised this has never come up.

I noticed a water esky type thing (the ones with the tap on the bottom) at the bar on the Eastern concourse. Unsure how cold the water was though as I didn't require it. Plenty of water in beer etc.

Maybe the Committee can request plumbed, chilled water taps at bars for patrons to use?

[Jeterpool]

According to the Liquor Act 2007: Section C.51

As part of their liquor licence they must serve water free of charge.

I'm surprised this has never come up.

We're raised the bottles being enforced by the stadium at the last meeting. The club said take a bottle that's been emptied to any bar and they must fill it for you. This is the section of the law you've pulled out

[Jetmaster]

We're raised the bottles being enforced by the stadium at the last meeting. The club said take a bottle that's been emptied to any bar and they must fill it for you. This is the section of the law you've pulled out

I know there is a sign that states this at the northern bar in the main stand, though for some reason this bar was closed the other day.

[borat]

Someone talk me through what the hell Mullen was doing when Wellington scored their first goal.

Looked like he was setting up Barbarouses for a drive to the paint with a well-worked screen.

That was Vujica. Barborouses dropped the shoulder and turned inside the 6 yard box. Vujica fell for it hook line and sinker.

Mullen then tried to cover up for Vujica and got a foot to the ball but it deflected straight up to Barborouses again who skipped through.

Vujica was out of his depth defending against Barborouses

[borat]

I've been a vocal detractor RE: Hoole. But yesterday he did very well IMO.

Hoole seems to be the outfield BK. Anyone else makes the same errors/mistakes that he does, they are given the benefit of the doubt.

Case in point, Nabbout's woeful effort on goal in the first half yesterday. Had Hoole done that, everyone would be castigating him.

To be fair Hoole was equally poor in the first half. Looked lazy, gave up the ball, refused to chase. 2nd half he played like a man possessed. Everything went through him in the 2nd half

[The Dunster]

That was Vujica. Barborouses dropped the shoulder and turned inside the 6 yard box. Vujica fell for it hook line and sinker.

Mullen then tried to cover up for Vujica and got a foot to the ball but it deflected straight up to Barborouses again who skipped through.

Vujica was out of his depth defending against Barborouses

Barborouses has scored less goals than Hoole this season. He's probably the most overpaid player in the competition.
Vujica did fine against him and the goal was Boogs fault nobody elses.

[StannyCFCJET]

Barborouses has scored less goals than Hoole this season. He's probably the most overpaid player in the competition.
Vujica did fine against him and the goal was Boogs fault nobody elses.

if people get crosses in or run into the box from the wide lefthand side its as much Vujica fault as Boogs. I thought Vuijca was generally excellenct but two un excusable lapses on concentration cost us and his first job is to defend

[The Dunster]

if people get crosses in or run into the box from the wide lefthand side its as much Vujica fault as Boogs. I thought Vuijca was generally excellenct but two un excusable lapses on concentration cost us and his first job is to defend

The kids getting paid peanuts to play and you are criticising him like he's a marquee ffs.
Let me guess - you want your boy Cowburn to start ?
Cowburn is no better, and for some reason seems to get praised well beyond what he should here.

[Macca]

Regardless of if he made a couple errors (not saying either way) he was excellent on the weekend in energy, technically and going forward. For me I'm not sure why he's been out of the starting lineup at all this season, he's looked good every time he's played.

Clut struggled to make an impact in the first half but would have done a lot of work, Noddy's quality showed when he came on and its great that we have very strong options to come off the bench. With Kokko to come back in as well the coach is sure to have some selection headaches in the attacking half.

I agree with Dunster, I think Hoole cops way too much stick. Sure its easy to see his shortcomings because when he makes mistakes they are bleedingly obvious, but he still does a lot of good as well. His goal on the weekend was very well taken, I couldn't believe it was actually him. The giving up on the ball is a pretty big eye sore.

CMs looking good and as a few people have mentioned its great to see us actually being composed with the ball and playing ourselves out of some tight situations with pretty good regularity. The backs are confident to pass it to the CMs under pressure and they are doing well finding right options. While I will say I think sometimes we are a bit sheepish on the ball and too quick to take an easy pass, its better than in the past and you can't always go for a killer pass, that's when you start getting interceptions all the time. Having said this, it shits me to tears hearing the crowd start moaning and groaning as soon as the ball is passed backwards to the CBs or GK. I wish that shit would stop straight up

[stopper2]

^^^
Yes, it's become embarrasing going to a Jets game and hearing groans and even booing if players pass the ball backwards. FFS at least we are keeping the ball much better now then earlier in the season. Would dumbarses rather we just boot the ball up the field straight back to the opposition!!!
Yeah sometimes our players are slow to respond to the situation and the ball does not get played out quick enough, we lose that litle window of opportunity and have to go backwards to start up again.....so ****ing what!!! The main thing is that WE still have the ball and hey....THE OPPOSITION CANNOT SCORE IF WE HAVE THE BALL!
*Rant over*

[stopper2]

Yes agree with the comments on Hoole, sure he is frustrating and does make mistakes and has butchered a few goals in the past few weeks but we are slowly but surely starting to see some "end product. Three goals this season to date (12 games) compared to I think it was one goal in his 3 previous full seasons as a player.
If he can get up to around 8-10 goals this season that would be a reasonable return for a player who plays predominantly as a wide mid.

[WolfMan]

RE: the above 2x posts -

Agree 100%. When the masses booed passing along the backline and to Duncan on Monday afternoon, I exclaimed not-so-quietly "What do you want them to do? Give the ball away".

I think most people see it as the aimless backwards momentum under GVE 2.0, but as far as I'm concerned, it's smart recycling of possession.

Also, as mentioned by Jeterpool in a recent Jetstream podcast, it allows our players a chance to regroup and catch their breath

[plague]

To be fair in the old days the backpass (a good 90% of the time) resulted in the keeper hoofing it upfield.
Crowd we're just bracing themselves for more of the same garbage.
Hopefully if the backpass continues to be a reset and we go at them again and again crowd will be fine.

[sammydog]

I don't get the booing either.

In the past when we always went back, the booing was probably warranted as it always was negative football.A lot of the times it just resulted in the keeper punting it down the pitch anyway.

Now its not used all that often and when we do play back its under pressure and to keep the ball, not have the keeper punt it up the pitch. You'd think people would be happy we are being smarter with the ball.

[Footballers]

I don't get the booing either.

In the past when we always went back, the booing was probably warranted as it always was negative football.A lot of the times it just resulted in the keeper punting it down the pitch anyway.

Now its not used all that often and when we do play back its under pressure and to keep the ball, not have the keeper punt it up the pitch. You'd think people would be happy we are being smarter with the ball.

:wink:

[lquiquer]

^^^
Yes, it's become embarrasing going to a Jets game and hearing groans and even booing if players pass the ball backwards. FFS at least we are keeping the ball much better now then earlier in the season. Would dumbarses rather we just boot the ball up the field straight back to the opposition!!!
Yeah sometimes our players are slow to respond to the situation and the ball does not get played out quick enough, we lose that litle window of opportunity and have to go backwards to start up again.....so ****ing what!!! The main thing is that WE still have the ball and hey....THE OPPOSITION CANNOT SCORE IF WE HAVE THE BALL!
*Rant over*

They should all read Ange's book..... #enlightment

[plague]

THE OPPOSITION CANNOT SCORE IF WE HAVE THE BALL!


i mean you're right......but ummmmm
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ok lets not think about that and move on.

[borat]

Barborouses has scored less goals than Hoole this season. He's probably the most overpaid player in the competition.
Vujica did fine against him and the goal was Boogs fault nobody elses.
Ahhh you are blind. Watch it again,

Barborouses drops the shoulder and turns past Vujica like he is invisible.

That you even mention Boogs tells me you haven't actually seen the goal because only Vujica and Mullen were involved

[StannyCFCJET]

Ahhh you are blind. Watch it again,

Barborouses drops the shoulder and turns past Vujica like he is invisible.

That you even mention Boogs tells me you haven't actually seen the goal because only Vujica and Mullen were involved

^^^^ this 100% and the second goal why was Vujica so out of position???

[plague]

Ahhh you are blind. Watch it again,

Barborouses drops the shoulder and turns past Vujica like he is invisible.

That you even mention Boogs tells me you haven't actually seen the goal because only Vujica and Mullen were involved

yeah but if you watch Ben Kennedy he is way out of position and did nothing to prevent the goal either.
Plus i didnt hear him say anything to the defence whilst the attack was on.

Poor positioning, poor communication.
Another clanger by BK.

[parksey]

That was Vujica. Barborouses dropped the shoulder and turned inside the 6 yard box. Vujica fell for it hook line and sinker.

Mullen then tried to cover up for Vujica and got a foot to the ball but it deflected straight up to Barborouses again who skipped through.

Vujica was out of his depth defending against Barborouses

It was a great turn. Not the best defending from Vujica but he was done with a great bit of skill.

Mullen inexplicably turned his body side on and dangled a half-hearted foot in because he was scared of giving away a penalty, when he should have stepped across the path of the ball and blocked it. It was a lot more simple than he made it out to be.