Daily Australian News Thread 2017

[pv4]

1. Scrap the salary floor. no change except no bankruptcy.

But the FFA subsidize the salary cap. So there's no disadvantage to a club whether they're forced to "spend" over a certain percentage or not. If a club uses 60% of the salary cap or 90%, they're out of pocket the same amount (i think). It is the FFA who are out of pocked.

[Grimario]

But the FFA subsidize the salary cap. So there's no disadvantage to a club whether they're forced to "spend" over a certain percentage or not. If a club uses 60% of the salary cap or 90%, they're out of pocket the same amount (i think). It is the FFA who are out of pocked.

Yeah, but what I am suggesting is give clubs their entire salary cap entitlement and then don't force them to spend. Give Jets $2.5m, be as shit and uncompetitive as we are now spending all of it and let club cover the annual losses by only spending $1.5m of that entitlement.

Floor and limited foreign players just forces clubs to pay high wages on shit players. Some of the players in this league are stealing a living.

[plague]

Griff for next manager with Thommo and Jobe as assistants

I can allow Griff and Jobe to do this because they are Jets royalty and awesome but I have no idea who that other dude is and don't want him anywhere near this team he sounds like a mong.

[StannyCFCJET]

I can allow Griff and Jobe to do this because they are Jets royalty and awesome but I have no idea who that other dude is and don't want him anywhere near this team he sounds like a mong.

Thommo gave everything for the club and as far as im aware never disrespected the club or the fans after he left so would like to know what you have against the guy Plague?

[MFKS]

All of the players in this club are stealing a living.

Fixed for accuracy

[Frodo]

Griff for next manager with Thommo and Jobe as assistants

Does this also match up with us giving up on being competitive again like Grim and I are saying? Cause, if so, then totally a good idea.

If you legitimately think these guys would make a half-decent coaching team than i feel bad for you son. They would have 99 problems but winning trophies wouldn't be one.:rof::rof:

[The Dunster]

Thommo gave everything for the club and as far as im aware never disrespected the club or the fans after he left so would like to know what you have against the guy Plague?

When it was announced that Thommo was leaving the Jets - fans wanted to pay tribute to him and he never gave them the chance - instead he snubbed them. A lot of effort went into banners and signage but unfortunately it wasn't good enough fir Thommo.

[plague]

Thommo gave everything for the club and as far as im aware never disrespected the club or the fans after he left so would like to know what you have against the guy Plague?

never heard of the bloke.
is he somebody?

[parksey]

Lowey wrote this:



But for the x amount of paragraphs leading up to that line, he:
- used the word "compare" once.
- defines the divide in the "haves and have nots".
- specifically groups the Jerks with the Mariners & Wellington (and get this, for comparison sake).
- singles out Graham Arnold & Sydney FC multiple times.
- relates his arguments to ANOTHER CODE, specifically bringing up Brisbane Broncos, Melbourne Storm, and their respective coaches.
- highlights Gui Amor's failings this year compared to last year.

I guess I'm going to have to agree with Lowey - comparisons are odious.

This article is solely about him defending his mate Jones, and basically nothing else. He's arguably done it in a way that can be agreeable, don't get me wrong, but it's just too easy to see thru it all IMO.

Yeah very frustrating article.

Gotta say, the Herald does a great job with its Jets coverage but they really don't stick the boot in when it's due. Or critique matches, tactics. coaches etc. at all really, they just accept the mediocrity.

Lowey writes the same article at the business end of every season. He's supposed to be the expert analyst right? Have a crack.

[q-money]

tbh i think thommo legit had no idea, he's a good bloke even though he got panned for that

but one former fan fave reportedly gave out vital information to a gypo coach once before a derby if you believe everything as well lelel :yap: :yap: :yap:

[parksey]

big kasey

[plague]

Yeah very frustrating article.


i cant be assed googlebooking it but Lowe says that Gypo Arnie 'timed his run to coach Sydney FC because he knew the ADP thing was garbage'.

Didnt he go O/S somewhere and then get rissoled 5 minutes later and then came back?

[parksey]

i cant be assed googlebooking it but Lowe says that Gypo Arnie 'timed his run to coach Sydney FC because he knew the ADP thing was garbage'.

Didnt he go O/S somewhere and then get rissoled 5 minutes later and then came back?

Yeah well I guess he meant that Arnie saw the writing on the wall with the whole 'have and have-not' thing, but yeah I'm sure that bad run in Japan was down to the "cattle" he had at his disposal.

[The Dunster]

Yeah well I guess he meant that Arnie saw the writing on the wall with the whole 'have and have-not' thing, but yeah I'm sure that bad run in Japan was down to the "cattle" he had at his disposal.

Wasn't it a power play by senior players at his club in Japan to save their own sorry under-performing arses ? From what I remember several players had more say than they should have and Arnold as the new guy threatened their position / standing at the club.

[monz6]

Pretty sure it's Adrianna aka AJ, his daughter. Definitely do not find her facebook page..

Adriana* is currently playing in China pal. Pretty sure it wasn't her... check her fb page for confirmation maybe

[plague]

Wasn't it a power play by senior players at his club in Japan to save their own sorry under-performing arses ? From what I remember several players had more say than they should have and Arnold as the new guy threatened their position / standing at the club.

The only thing you can be sure of is if it was a story in the Australian media, it was pro-Arnold.
Whether it was true or not doesn't seem to matter all that much.

[MFKS]

Yeah very frustrating article.

Gotta say, the Herald does a great job with its Jets coverage but they really don't stick the boot in when it's due. Or critique matches, tactics. coaches etc. at all really, they just accept the mediocrity.

Lowey writes the same article at the business end of every season. He's supposed to be the expert analyst right? Have a crack.

But there your problem

Lowey more or less knows everyone in Newy Football

Lowey is a nice guy

So your not going to get him coming out throwing big ones about the place ruffling feathers


Problem is the rest of the Herald Journos
Gardiner and Dillon yes they cover the Jets but aren't passionate or knowledgeable enough to speak up on a lot of it as their preferred codes aint football

[Guerny]

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/newcastle-jets-cement-link-with-chile-powerhouse/hp62e62c4zxj1p4puhre2b2ux

How do you make money selling a player you only have on loan for 12 mths?

Wow… what a great use of one of our only 5 visa spots.

[Jeterpool]

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/newcastle-jets-cement-link-with-chile-powerhouse/hp62e62c4zxj1p4puhre2b2ux

How do you make money selling a player you only have on loan for 12 mths?

Wow… what a great use of one of our only 5 visa spots.

That's the bit I don't understand

[StannyCFCJET]

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/newcastle-jets-cement-link-with-chile-powerhouse/hp62e62c4zxj1p4puhre2b2ux

How do you make money selling a player you only have on loan for 12 mths?

Wow… what a great use of one of our only 5 visa spots.

I didnt even think of that but dont think this is a money deal but a deal to maybe get a decent player for 12 months. (Does the Chilean club get the transfer fee then?)

[Wilso8948]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/21/free-agent-milligan-weighing-options-future-unclear

One can dream right?

[StannyCFCJET]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/21/free-agent-milligan-weighing-options-future-unclear

One can dream right?

In b4 were linked to Milligan and he signs for one of the big teams under a new guest player rule.

[plague]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/21/free-agent-milligan-weighing-options-future-unclear

One can dream right?

Remember that time he was tossing up between going to Arsenal or Germany but signed with the Jets.

Geez we were good back then.

These days Middleby couldn't sign a Fed Ex docket.

[StannyCFCJET]

big kasey

What ever happened to him? Close to the best CM we ever had

[Jeterpool]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/21/free-agent-milligan-weighing-options-future-unclear

One can dream right?

Make Milligan and FBK the two marquees.

[Jeterpool]

What ever happened to him? Close to the best CM we ever had

Still doing laps

[StannyCFCJET]

Make Milligan and FBK the two marquees.

Gotta leave a spot open for Lord Griff!!!

[plague]

How do you make money selling a player you only have on loan for 12 mths?


You forget we are the club that bullshitted everyone* in believing we got $150k for the Petratos debacle.

King Gypo will just get one of his boys/sources to throw out a figure every time one of these Chilli Peppers move on and half the fans will lap it up.




* yeah nah not me.

[Mark325]

Make Milligan and FBK the two marquees.

Id rather us get Nathan Burns assuming he'd be on marquee wages, but if we were to take full use of all outside the cap exemptions like loyalty players etc we could probably manage all three and fit one of them under the cap like the better teams actually do

[The Dunster]

What ever happened to him? Close to the best CM we ever had

He's retired from playing and coaching and living in Norway. In his spare time he sends tactical information to teams playing against the Jets.

[Jeterpool]

He's retired from playing and coaching and living in Norway. In his spare time he sends tactical information to teams playing against the Jets.

I ran into him the other day at the stadium because I want to interview him for the podcast. He's now in Qld.

[Jeterpool]

Id rather us get Nathan Burns assuming he'd be on marquee wages, but if we were to take full use of all outside the cap exemptions like loyalty players etc we could probably manage all three and fit one of them under the cap like the better teams actually do

Fair shout

[StannyCFCJET]

I ran into him the other day at the stadium because I want to interview him for the podcast. He's now in Qld.

Doubt he would but if he could share some insight on why GVE's always managed to create personal problems with players. Would be interesting

[The Dunster]

Doubt he would but if he could share some insight on why GVE's always managed to create personal problems with players. Would be interesting

Given the way Ljubo was treated and his off loading information to the gypos I think a public stoning would be more appropriate than an interview. I'm not a bog GVE fan by any stretch but I rate him a lot higher than Wehrman.

[StannyCFCJET]

Given the way Ljubo was treated and his off loading information to the gypos I think a public stoning would be more appropriate than an interview. I'm not a bog GVE fan by any stretch but I rate him a lot higher than Wehrman.

WAIT WHAT???????? Ljubo or Wherman gave information to the Gypos??? umm what please explain

[plague]

WAIT WHAT???????? Ljubo or Wherman gave information to the Gypos??? umm what please explain

BK done it.

[StannyCFCJET]

BK done it.

I highly doubt our 2nd greatest ever player would do that.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I highly doubt our 2nd greatest ever player would do that.

Second greatest waste of money and player spot...

[Jetmaster]

Given the way Ljubo was treated and his off loading information to the gypos I think a public stoning would be more appropriate than an interview. I'm not a bog GVE fan by any stretch but I rate him a lot higher than Wehrman.

Yep - I find it amusing that Bridgey cops most of the flak for Ljubo leaving, when big Kasey did the hard yards. Still got some great interviews that were on Fox and SBS where Kasey basically keeps saying "Ljubo is a ****".

[StannyCFCJET]

Second greatest signing and player spot...

Fixed it for ya mate all good :rof:

[Jetmaster]

Second greatest waste of money and player spot...

The man who won us our last ever semi final I'll have you know.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

The man who won us our last ever semi final I'll have you know.

Definitely wasn't the 10 in front of him.. Was all him.

[q-money]

one of the great keeping performances of the z-league that night

[Jetmaster]

The only guys that can say they won us finals are BK, Griff and maybe Coveny and Tarek (though both were Griff assisted).

[MFKS]

The only guys that can say they won us finals are BK, Griff and maybe Coveny and Tarek (though both were Griff assisted).

Finals??

WTF are they??


When they on??

[WolfMan]

Finals??

WTF are they??


When they on??


https://youtu.be/s2R2sH2ScBM

[belchardo]

The only guys that can say they won us finals are BK, Griff and maybe Coveny and Tarek (though both were Griff assisted).

Are you including the singapore soccer sixes in that analysis?

[The Dunster]

Yep - I find it amusing that Bridgey cops most of the flak for Ljubo leaving, when big Kasey did the hard yards. Still got some great interviews that were on Fox and SBS where Kasey basically keeps saying "Ljubo is a ****".

I think that Kasey and Ljubo have smoked the peace pipe since then though - so I'll only use small rocks on kasey if a public stoning is to take place.

[belchardo]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4558506/david-lowe-no-easy-answers-for-jets/?cs=305

Another sparkling piece from lowey about how we need to be patient.

I'm still chuckling over his comment that " For me, on the football content, it was probably a 4-3 or 3-2 game Wellington's way". I'll have what he's smoking please.

[halo se7en]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4558506/david-lowe-no-easy-answers-for-jets/?cs=305

Another sparkling piece from lowey about how we need to be patient.

I'm still chuckling over his comment that " For me, on the football content, it was probably a 4-3 or 3-2 game Wellington's way". I'll have what he's smoking please.

Yet another nothing article. He's unsurprisingly run dry of content. There are answers but he doesn't want to throw his mate under the bus.

[StannyCFCJET]

Yet another nothing article. He's unsurprisingly run dry of content. There are answers but he doesn't want to throw his mate under the bus.

Probably too scared to call out or bag people in case the Jets stop dealing with the Herald

[plague]

He used a Meatloaf reference.
That's probably all you need to know about that guy.

[Wilso8948]

Yet another nothing article. He's unsurprisingly run dry of content.

He is writing about the Jets yeah?

[Wilso8948]

He used a Meatloaf reference.
That's probably all you need to know about that guy.

You ever met the bloke?

[plague]

You ever met the bloke?

Nope.
any reason why I'd want/need to?

[MonkeyKplunk]

Probably too scared to call out or bag people in case the Jets stop dealing with the Herald

Like the Knights did years ago when their chief sports writer at the time as bagging them heavily.
Ridiculous one sided rag that paper is now any way

[MFKS]

Probably too scared to call out or bag people in case the Jets stop dealing with the Herald

No he not

You do realise that Jones and Lowe have known each other for ****ing years??

Hard pressed to find Lowe using his ghost written column in the local rag to take pot shots at his mate.

What is the issue is that Herald shouldn't be employing Lowe to write that BS every week if they want valid constructive opinion then employ a journo with no loyalties to those involved

[StannyCFCJET]

No he not

You do realise that Jones and Lowe have known each other for ****ing years??

Hard pressed to find Lowe using his ghost written column in the local rag to take pot shots at his mate.

What is the issue is that Herald shouldn't be employing Lowe to write that BS every week if they want valid constructive opinion then employ a journo with no loyalties to those involved

Ahhhh **** sake this club and hiring mates and what not. Get Griff to do a column and give him free range

[MFKS]

So what the **** has that got to do with the Jets??

The Herald employ Lowey

Not the Jets

So got nothing to do with hiring mates

[StannyCFCJET]

So what the **** has that got to do with the Jets??

The Herald employ Lowey

Not the Jets

So got nothing to do with hiring mates

Mckinna hired his mate, Lowy afraid to speak the truth and call out his mate. Who cares who is friends with who its a professional sport

[MFKS]

Mckinna hired his mate, Lowy afraid to speak the truth and call out his mate. Who cares who is friends with who its a professional sport

Yep

You sure are naive

I sure Lowey wishes to use his weekly column of dribble to shit can his good mate publically

What you reckon??

[Grimario]

Mckinna hired his mate, Lowy afraid to speak the truth and call out his mate. Who cares who is friends with who its a professional sport

Lowey isn't a journalist. He's an opinion piece writer... why would he use his opinion piece to go to town on his mate? He doesn't need to use facts, just fluff shite and that's all his columns ever are. If you want to complain about Herald not being harsh on Jones, Jets and Lawrie, should air them with actual sports writers.

Member is right on this one, Stanny.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Lowey isn't a journalist. He's an opinion piece writer... why would he use his opinion piece to go to town on his mate? He doesn't need to use facts, just fluff shite and that's all his columns ever are. If you want to complain about Herald not being harsh on Jones, Jets and Lawrie, should air them with actual sports writers.

Member is right on this one, Stanny.

Doesnt change the fact that the content is f&*king garbage. Easy way to fix it, don't read his shit. He will lose his job soon enough.

[Grimario]

Doesnt change the fact that the content is f&*king garbage. Easy way to fix it, don't read his shit. He will lose his job soon enough.

Not sure anyone is arguing against that... just Stanny saying "why doesn't this bloke call Jones shit?" when it's pretty obvious wise.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Not sure anyone is arguing against that... just Stanny saying "why doesn't this bloke call Jones shit?" when it's pretty obvious wise.

Agreed.

[StannyCFCJET]

Lowey isn't a journalist. He's an opinion piece writer... why would he use his opinion piece to go to town on his mate? He doesn't need to use facts, just fluff shite and that's all his columns ever are. If you want to complain about Herald not being harsh on Jones, Jets and Lawrie, should air them with actual sports writers.

Member is right on this one, Stanny.

ill concede to the you and the Member Grim. Lowys smoke puffing just pissed me off i guess

[Frodo]

ill concede to the you and the Member Grim. Lowys smoke puffing just pissed me off i guess

We will add that to the list of things that piss you off Stanny. Don't worry, we will magically fix all the problems you have in this world soon enough.:rof:

I'm just shocked Newspapers still exist. I get my news from the microchips the government implanted into my fillings as a child.

[Bon]

We will add that to the list of things that piss you off Stanny. Don't worry, we will magically fix all the problems you have in this world soon enough.:rof:

I'm just shocked Newspapers still exist. I get my news from the microchips the government implanted into my fillings as a child.

Look at this ex-Morisset local pretending he's got/had teeth..
Good for you.. Aim for the stars!!
:gent:

[Frodo]

ill concede to the you and the Member Grim. Lowys smoke puffing just pissed me off i guess

Also don't concede to the membah or Grim, that's how they get their power.

Or did you just amalgamate their names into a cute couple's nickname on purpose to insinuate that they are totally doing it?

[Frodo]

Look at this ex-Morisset local pretending he's got/had teeth..
Good for you.. Aim for the stars!!
:gent:

Hi Pot, my name is Kettle. nice to meet you. haha.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Hi Pot, my name is Kettle. nice to meet you. haha.

People from Morisset never had Pots or Kettles either. Lets not get too ahead of ourselves now shall we?

[Frodo]

People from Morisset never had Pots or Kettles either. Lets not get too ahead of ourselves now shall we?

You can steal anything if you live close enough to Gosford. I'm pretty sure the closer you get to the centrelink in Gosford the stronger your 'Drongo' powers become. Once you hit Wyong you grow speed-dealers and by the time you've hit the stadium a cigarette magically appears behind both ears and you have the urge to find some hubcaps to 'pimp out' your caravan.

[Wilso8948]

Nope.
any reason why I'd want/need to?

Na not really. Not directed at you just see a bunch of 10 year olds on here shit bagging a guy they've never met before. I personally do know Lowey. Is an absolute legend of a bloke. As Grimario mentioned before he's an opinion piece writer. Of course he isn't going to go to town on his mate. There's parts I agree with him each week and there's parts I don't. Of course the Jets are shit. But that would make for a pretty ****ing boring column each week wouldn't it. We are already subjected to 90mins of boring tripe each week. Why extend this.

[Bon]

You can steal anything if you live close enough to Gosford. I'm pretty sure the closer you get to the centrelink in Gosford the stronger your 'Drongo' powers become. Once you hit Wyong you grow speed-dealers and by the time you've hit the stadium a cigarette magically appears behind both ears and you have the urge to find some hubcaps to 'pimp out' your caravan.

The way you have described that.. I actually pictured Jones the entire way through.. He would be perfect to coach the gypos..

[plague]

Na not really. Not directed at you just see a bunch of 10 year olds on here shit bagging a guy they've never met before.

The players are probably nice blokes too.

[Wilso8948]

The players are probably nice blokes too.
Yep I know what you're getting at but they have a hell of a lot more control in how the team plays each week then an opinion writer at the Herald.

[plague]

Yep I know what you're getting at but they have a hell of a lot more control in how the team plays each week then an opinion writer at the Herald.

Criticism of Lowey writing a column is as warranted as criticism of a player during a game.



I don't care much to judge either group but people are applying their sensibilities to both and that's totally warranted (prob right up until the point that someone has a go at them doing their job, then it all gets a bit 'unfair').

[Wilso8948]

I don't care much to judge either group

people are applying their sensibilities to both.

These two comments are one of your best! Love the trolling. Keep up the good work.

[plague]

These two comments are one of your best! Love the trolling. Keep up the good work.

Oh man, one day you guys are gonna actually read my posts and learn that dirty little secret.

But if you ain't interested in reading them then onwards and upwards I guess.

[MFKS]

The players are probably nice blokes too.
Nudging by how accomodating they are to rival players and rival fans you probably right.

Not enough cunce in the squad

[Wilso8948]

Oh man, one day you guys are gonna actually read my posts and learn that dirty little secret.

But if you ain't interested in reading them then onwards and upwards I guess.
Na. I read them. You can sleep at night now.

[plague]

Na. I read them.

Ok, but ya gotta promise me that if you're gonna misinterpret them, be like the Member and dial it up to 11.
Much more fun that way.


Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to cancel my personalised Jets 'Thwaite' jersey.

[Wilso8948]

Ok, but ya gotta promise me that if you're gonna misinterpret them, be like the Member and dial it up to 11.
Much more fun that way.


Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to cancel my personalised Jets 'Thwaite' jersey.

Na. You judge everyone and no one uses sensibilities in this place.

[plague]

Na. You judge everyone and no one uses sensibilities in this place.

See, this is a hot take the good Member would be proud of.

Just don't waste it all now, there's a looooooong off season coming up.

Now ima let you have the last word on this then we gotta get back on topic.

Whilst we were talking we probably missed out on 3 more pretend player signings.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Georgevski posted on Instagram confirming hes leaving MV

[MFKS]

Georgevski posted on Instagram confirming hes leaving MV

Doesn't mean he coming here though

[lquiquer]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/30/get-rid-salary-cap-says-postecoglou

100%......

[Grimario]

Doesn't mean he coming here though

Yes it does.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4567144/victory-star-on-his-way-to-jets/?cs=306

[StannyCFCJET]

Yes it does.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4567144/victory-star-on-his-way-to-jets/?cs=306

1. Were definatly paying huge overs but he is a good signing
2.Jones comments about people wanting to come here cause of our style football. Players must love losing by multiple goals cause we 100% cannot play out from the back or play possession football and our counter attacking football has been sussed and doesnt work anymore.

[leftrightout]

1. Were definatly paying huge overs but he is a good signing
2.Jones comments about people wanting to come here cause of our style football. Players must love losing by multiple goals cause we 100% cannot play out from the back or play possession football and our counter attacking football has been sussed and doesnt work anymore.

How do you know what we are paying him? What a stupid first comment!

[plague]

Originally Posted by Mark Jones
When we have been under pressure and needed someone to step up, no one has been able to.


atta boy coach.
get as many of them as possible under the bus.


clown.

[StannyCFCJET]

How do you know what we are paying him? What a stupid first comment!

Why else would he leave a team that is winning things to a team that is gonna win the spoon. MONEY DURR

[lquiquer]

Doesn't mean he coming here though

Looks like he is

[StannyCFCJET]

atta boy coach.
get as many of them as possible under the bus.


clown.

No wonder no one is playing for him

[MFKS]

atta boy coach.
get as many of them as possible under the bus.


clown.

Hey good on him

He just calling a spade a spade

Coming on the back of two ****ing hidings what you want him to say??

He ain't skirting round the issue

If the ****s who call themselves professional footballers can't handle it it because the truth hurts

[hawk]

This Georgio/Santo guy goes ok until......he dons the 3jets anchor badge, then lets see how good his is

[MFKS]

This Georgio/Santo guy goes ok until......he dons the 3jets anchor badge, then lets see how good his is

Bloke went studs up on Mitch Nichols knee

****ing legend

[hawk]

Bloke went studs up on Mitch Nichols knee

****ing legend

But when he does that here many will call him a cvnt for letting the team down

[MFKS]

But when he does that here many will call him a cvnt for letting the team down

He didn't even get sent for it either

[parksey]

He's been on the bench for the last two seasons more or less.

[plague]

Hey good on him

He just calling a spade a spade

Coming on the back of two ****ing hidings what you want him to say??

He ain't skirting round the issue

If the ****s who call themselves professional footballers can't handle it it because the truth hurts

Hey I'm with ya Member.
Blokes approach seems to be on point.
I mean, look how successful it's all going.


Ace.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

He didn't even get sent for it either

He doesn't play for Sydney or Melbourne anymore. He'll get sent from next year on...

[MFKS]

Hey I'm with ya Member.
Blokes approach seems to be on point.
I mean, look how successful it's all going.


Ace.

But he onto something

Goes and signs the bloke who decided to knee cap Bitch Nichols

Trying to sign the bloke who headbutted Manny Muscat


Thats like two of the biggest Hutcho like wankers in the HAL and we trying to sign the blokes prepared to deal with them

#FullMongrel

[plague]

But he onto something

Goes and signs the bloke who decided to knee cap Bitch Nichols

Trying to sign the bloke who headbutted Manny Muscat


Thats like two of the biggest Hutcho like wankers in the HAL and we trying to sign the blokes prepared to deal with them

#FullMongrel

we gonna be the grittiest and mongrelest team in the league.

[MFKS]

we gonna be the grittiest and mongrelest team in the league.

As opposed to being the weakest softest bunch of losers rolling over and getting ****ed in the arse without lubricant like we are right now??

Hey

Jones In

[plague]

actually i think this is a masterstroke from Jones.

hear me out:

he (so far) 'seems' to have failed in most measurable areas.

so instead of trying to get better at things like 'scoring' and 'defending' of which we have metrics to judge his performance against other teams, he is going off the reservation so to speak and just being the grittiest and mongrelest team in the comp.

and until the stat NERDY NERDZ come up with a way to measure it, and compare it to other teams, he can just claim victory.

what a smart dude.

JONES IN.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

actually i think this is a masterstroke from Jones.

hear me out:

he (so far) 'seems' to have failed in most measurable areas.

so instead of trying to get better at things like 'scoring' and 'defending' of which we have metrics to judge his performance against other teams, he is going off the reservation so to speak and just being the grittiest and mongrelest team in the comp.

and until the stat NERDY NERDZ come up with a way to measure it, and compare it to other teams, he can just claim victory.

what a smart dude.

JONES IN.

We've always been the dirtiest team in the league.

The stats are called "fouls conceded" and" yellow/red cards gained". We're always up there.

[MFKS]

We've always been the dirtiest team in the league.

The stats are called "fouls conceded" and" yellow/red cards gained". We're always up there.

I wouldn't define us as dirty.

We give away a lot of soft fouls ourselves and we also seem to find refs who like to ping us for shit other teams get away with

It very rare we get a bloke sent for grubby violence etc

[leftrightout]

Why else would he leave a team that is winning things to a team that is gonna win the spoon. MONEY DURR

Who said he left Victory? Maybe he was just not re-signed?

Victory have a lot of young players coming through all the time and with their squad maybe saw the opportunity to spend the money better (i.e less on a young defender to help keep someone or strengthen another area). We could be paying him exactly the same amount as victory were, would that be considered way over? Who knows, i don't know what Victory or we are paying him!

[Frodo]

I am just impressed the club said 'we want him' and then we managed to sign him.

Normally this dance takes a horrible turn early on and we ended up signing the last bloke left with an eye patch and his shirt on backwards singing the spiderman theme tune at everyone who looks at him.

Let's get back to finding a strong midfielder now.

[Jeterpool]

I always consider the opinions of the opposition fans when a player leaves to join our club.

So far, they're quite complimentary towards him and sad to see him go.

http://www.melbournevictory.net/showthread.php?61498-Daniel-Georgievski-his-thread&p=3748183#post3748183

At the end of the day, we've signed a fullback who is left footed, is strong going forward (recognised this trait for a while) while admittedly a bit shaky defensively from the 1 (yes, only one) match I focussed on him last weekend.

He's won a championship and and FFA Cup and I'd argue is one of the strongest left backs in the competition.

It's the sort of signing we don't usually make, as Frodo said, so I am pleasantly surprised.

[Wilso8948]

Very good signing. Been asking for ages. On to the next. Milligan, Burns..

[MFKS]

I wouldn't define us as dirty.

We give away a lot of soft fouls ourselves and we also seem to find refs who like to ping us for shit other teams get away with

It very rare we get a bloke sent for grubby violence etc


Welcome we have our very own hero to worship now

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/a71fda0d2b74a0e76cb1b781840f694b?width=320&height=240

[leftrightout]

Very good signing. Been asking for ages. On to the next. Milligan, Burns..

Hahaha wake up you are dreaming again!

I would never doubt Mr Lee again if they signed those two guys!

[Jeterpool]

actually i think this is a masterstroke from Jones.

hear me out:

he (so far) 'seems' to have failed in most measurable areas.

so instead of trying to get better at things like 'scoring' and 'defending' of which we have metrics to judge his performance against other teams, he is going off the reservation so to speak and just being the grittiest and mongrelest team in the comp.

and until the stat NERDY NERDZ come up with a way to measure it, and compare it to other teams, he can just claim victory.

what a smart dude.

JONES IN.

I resemble that remark.

As you can see, we had more grit and mongrel under Stubbins, but we have picked up our game slightly this year - there's still time. It's more of a trend analysis of the average but you get the point.

http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1416&d=1490908650

1416

[Wilso8948]

Hahaha wake up you are dreaming again!

I would never doubt Mr Lee again if they signed those two guys!

Yeh probably am. But time to start laying down some cash and expectations. We have a billionaire owner. Start acting like it.

[Grimario]

I resemble that remark.

As you can see, we had more grit and mongrel under Stubbins, but we have picked up our game slightly this year - there's still time. It's more of a trend analysis of the average but you get the point.

http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1416&d=1490908650

1416

Statterpool, can you plot a few extra things on separate graphs to see if there's any correlation? Don't worry about showing actual correlation coefficients, just visual representation.

Possession vs Fouls
Fouls vs Cards
Goals conceded vs Cards

Kind of expecting PvF to have negative correlation and almost expecting FvC to be static, possibly even so for opposition.

[Jeterpool]

Statterpool, can you plot a few extra things on separate graphs to see if there's any correlation? Don't worry about showing actual correlation coefficients, just visual representation.

Possession vs Fouls
Fouls vs Cards
Goals conceded vs Cards

Kind of expecting PvF to have negative correlation and almost expecting FvC to be static, possibly even so for opposition.

Don't have possession stats but yes, the others could be done.

[Grimario]

I always consider the opinions of the opposition fans when a player leaves to join our club.

So far, they're quite complimentary towards him and sad to see him go.

http://www.melbournevictory.net/showthread.php?61498-Daniel-Georgievski-his-thread&p=3748183#post3748183

At the end of the day, we've signed a fullback who is left footed, is strong going forward (recognised this trait for a while) while admittedly a bit shaky defensively from the 1 (yes, only one) match I focussed on him last weekend.

He's won a championship and and FFA Cup and I'd argue is one of the strongest left backs in the competition.

It's the sort of signing we don't usually make, as Frodo said, so I am pleasantly surprised.

There's a few people around social media who seem happy but I can't understand why. The vast majority are of the "he's a ****load better than Broxham" view and they definitely look a better side when he is in it.

I remember when he first signed... as a long time FM player, he was always one of those "poach back from OS" guys and he hadn't been capped by Macedonia, so you could sometimes pinch him for Australia as well. Not a lot of people knew who he was but would have loved to get him here 3 years ago. Lots of people originally thought he was signed as right back and I guess the club was hedging their bets. They had Galloway, Geria and Murnane as unproven fullbacks and the huge loss of Traore. If Murnane had emerged as the best of their youth FB's and Geria/Galloway were shite, Georgievski would have played on the right. He is definitely a right footer though, just better than decent on his left.

I'm pleased with it but if that means Vujica is deemed surplus and not worth developing, I will be disappointed. If it's an upgrade on the right side then that's 3 people we have there... who out of Hoff and Cowburn are off contract?

[Jetmaster]

I'm not even going to post a link for this....

1417

Very FOOLish.

[belchardo]

look like they're getting ready for the next derby match

[Wilso8948]

Bonnevacia heading to Wanderers and Williams going to Sydney or Victory. Source - The World Game

[MFKS]

Bonnevacia heading to Wanderers and Williams going to Sydney or Victory. Source - The World Game
Good thing we got Wayne Brown under contract for another 2 years.

What a great decision that was

[Jeterpool]

Bonnevacia heading to Wanderers and Williams going to Sydney or Victory. Source - The World Game

Bonevacia is ace. That's such a great pick up.

[rhysd]

Good thing we got Wayne Brown under contract for another 2 years.

What a great decision that was

Once he has a better standard of player around him it will make for a better insight as to how effective brown can be.

[The Dunster]

Bonevacia is only 25, has good defensive abilities and he can also score goals as well. Absolutely no place for him in the Jets squad - we did well not to sign him.

[StannyCFCJET]

Bonevacia is only 25, has good defensive abilities and he can also score goals as well. Absolutely no place for him in the Jets squad - we did well not to sign him.

Would all those abilities of he joined the Jets

[Tommyjet]

Bonevacia is ace. That's such a great pick up.
Very inconsistent though

[WolfMan]

Bonevacia is only 25, has good defensive abilities and he can also score goals as well. Absolutely no place for him in the Jets squad - we did well not to sign him.

:thumbsup:

[StannyCFCJET]

Very inconsistent though

Hell fit right in with the likes of Brown,Hoole,Nabbout.

[parksey]

cannot believe bonevacia is only 25

thought he was a veteran, looks old af

[hawk]

Let's just get Castro. Mr Lee right your wrongs.

[Wilso8948]

Let's just get Castro. Mr Lee right your wrongs.
Wongs*

[hawk]

Wongs*

:shock::lol::lol:

[Bon]

:lulzturtle:

[Jetmaster]

It's Ledman...two Wongs should make a light....boom tish.

[cobra23]

Wongs*

:lulz::thumbsup:

[Wilso8948]

FB linking us with Chamakh

[Jeterpool]

FB linking us with Chamakh

:deadhorse:

A big man, with little mobility up front. What a great idea! Will 100% work *Cough Heskey Trifunovic Kokko cough cough*

Even if he finds a way to become Chilean or Chinese I don't see it happening.

The post said "It's reported that..". Where is it reported? Just a push to get shares to the site.

[hawk]

It's Ledman...two Wongs should make a light....boom tish.

You win :rof:

[Frodo]

FB linking us with Chamakh


I'd give that about 5% chance of happening. He will stay in Europe where his national team coach can still see him or head off to the middle east.

[MonkeyKplunk]

“It is what it is,” he said. “We’ve gone from the 21nd round being 1-0 up (against Central Coast) and in the six to where we are.

“It’s not good enough. We’ve fallen away badly.”

You don't say Mark? I wonder how that could have happened? :blink:

http://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/jones-at-a-loss-with-jets-slump-457814

[StannyCFCJET]

Some guy on twitter called JR the sports guy who is a radio presenter on KOFM tweeted this 6 hrs ago "Some Jets players feel club has gone backwards... but owner says Mark Jones has done well with squad he's got. Interesting few weeks coming."

[Jeterpool]

Some guy on twitter called JR the sports guy who is a radio presenter on KOFM tweeted this 6 hrs ago "Some Jets players feel club has gone backwards... but owner says Mark Jones has done well with squad he's got. Interesting few weeks coming."

Thanks. Saved me reading my feed

[Frodo]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4589810/david-lowe-there-is-no-quick-fix/?cs=306

I actually agree with a bit of this. Sort of shows that the whole league is rubbish, we are one of the worst but realistically could have been in a much better position with only a couple of goals and bit of quality.

This doesn't prove anyone's points, it's just fluff but it was good to realise that a lot of other teams fans would be disappointed in their teams this year.

[MonkeyKplunk]

Lowe is just trying to pass off a poor season in saying that no one else has really been that consistent. But you can only judge by the other teams within your competition.

Fact is, aside from Sydney FC, the overall HAL table shows that a teams defence in front of goal is actually more important that at the other end of the pitch. Sure, you need to score goals to win a game, but if you can't stop a team scoring at the other end what chance do you really have? Lowe seems to miss this fact in all his columns lately.

[Jetmaster]

Intetesting article here..

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4598341/chinese-interests-load-up/?cs=305

Now I said many times Tinkler could have made a mint and developed a super club if he could leverage his contacts in mining with the Jets and China. He was too stupid to realise the Jets were "potentially" more valuable than the Knights in the long term through Asia.

I hope Lee notes this purchase and starts making connections. As long as he is not like Con and wants everything in house, the opportunity is there to get some serious sponsorship revenue into this club.

[De-Champ]

Intetesting article here..

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4598341/chinese-interests-load-up/?cs=305

Now I said many times Tinkler could have made a mint and developed a super club if he could leverage his contacts in mining with the Jets and China. He was too stupid to realise the Jets were "potentially" more valuable than the Knights in the long term through Asia.

I hope Lee notes this purchase and starts making connections. As long as he is not like Con and wants everything in house, the opportunity is there to get some serious sponsorship revenue into this club.

No one wanted to do business with Tinkler. That is one reason why he fell from grace so quickly.

[halo se7en]

So Lowey's latest article basically sounds like MFKS. All this talk about stability blah blah blah, but failing to highlight any positives as to why Jones should be kept.

[MFKS]

So Lowey's latest article basically sounds like MFKS. All this talk about stability blah blah blah, but failing to highlight any positives as to why Jones should be kept.

You do realise that stability is the key to getting results??

Until we actually back a manager for longer than a season then this is just a never ending cycle.

It up to the club to actually show some ****ing spine when the next mother ****er comes in and has a rough spell

Until they do that the club's failings are down to internet lynch mobs running the club

[halo se7en]

You do realise that stability is the key to getting results??

Until we actually back a manager for longer than a season then this is just a never ending cycle.

It up to the club to actually show some ****ing spine when the next mother ****er comes in and has a rough spell

Until they do that the club's failings are down to internet lynch mobs running the club

I'm all for stability, so let's sign and back a manager that actually knows what he's doing.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Just the same as Man United were unwilling to trust Moyes with their chest of money, and even held back wth van gaal, but were happy to let mourinho use it at his will.
Jones was Moyes. Hopeful he could do a reasonable job with what he was given, but not enough credentials to focus a club rebuild with.

[The Camel]

Just the same as Man United were unwilling to trust Moyes with their chest of money, and even held back wth van gaal, but were happy to let mourinho use it at his will.
Jones was Moyes. Hopeful he could do a reasonable job with what he was given, but not enough credentials to focus a club rebuild with.

The other similarity with Moyes and Jones is that with the money Moyes did have at his disposal, he could not convince any players of quality to come and play for him, in the end he panic bought Fellani who he already had worked with, identical to the only player Jones was going to be able to get was Mark Bridge (until his injury scuppered that)

[StannyCFCJET]

Looks like where still after O caravan. Hopefully he wont be our number 1 striker

[MFKS]

Looks like where still after O caravan. Hopefully he wont be our number 1 striker

Why??

If he is our NO2 that is a lot of money wasted to sit on the ****ing bench

Be about as bright as City signing Berisha to be back up to Fornaroli.

Great to have such depth but in a salary capped league Suicide

[The Camel]

Looks like where still after O caravan. Hopefully he wont be our number 1 striker

I am happy for him to be our No. 1 striker as long as we spend the so called large budget we're going to have on people in behind him to supply him with chances. He has proven he is a good finisher in this league, it is up to the club to provide the cattle to supply him.

[MFKS]

July 8th we are playing our Chilean amigos in a pre season friendly at Stade de Newy

[Guerny]

Who will actually be in the squad by then?

[Jeterpool]

Who will actually be in the squad by then?

We've got:

Jason Hoffman
Nigel Boogaard
Daniel Georgievski
Steven Ugarkovic
Aleksandr Kokko
Wayne Brown
Ivan Vujica
Andrew Nabbout
Nick Cowburn
Mario Shabow
Kosta Petratos
Jack Duncan
Daniel Alessi
Lachlan Jackson
Devante Clut
John Koutroumbis

Plus the Youth team.

[MFKS]

That 13 of the current inept ****ers of this season plus new recruits Shabow and Georgevski plus injury returnee Alessi

New Lynch mob victim March 2018 still don't have a lot of scope to gut this club properly.

Fingers crossed some of these blokes can be shafted out of the club

[Frodo]

We've got:

Jason Hoffman Could see other teams enquiring about him but i don't think he will leave.
Nigel Boogaard
Daniel Georgievski Bet he wishes he had 'Petratosed' us now.
Steven Ugarkovic
Aleksandr Kokko i think he will actively try to leave unless told otherwise by the club
Wayne Brown
Ivan Vujica
Andrew Nabbout Will stay here and hopefully find form again. No need to go elsewhere as he has gametime here and showed that he can play at this level just needs to find consistency.
Nick Cowburn
Mario Shabow
Kosta Petratos
Jack Duncan
Daniel Alessi
Lachlan Jackson
Devante Clut i think if someone asks about him he would be thinking of leaving.
John Koutroumbis

Plus the Youth team.


Other than like 4 of those players here we have the squad depth that we always look for.... but we somehow end up forming them into a first 11.

[Guerny]

And of our 16 player "squad", half of them are defenders, from the 2017 squad that coughed up the worst "Goals Against" stat in the league.

Bring your shooting boots Audax Italiano!!

[lquiquer]

July 8th we are playing our Chilean amigos in a pre season friendly at Stade de Newy

"Laurent, secure your seats for our clash with Audax Italiano!".......Thanks for the mail Jerks....Quick get in guys I have no doubt it's going to be a sale out....:yeahright:

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4605199/jets-strike-with-odonovan-set-to-move-north/?cs=4783

Eh.

[MFKS]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4605199/jets-strike-with-odonovan-set-to-move-north/?cs=4783

Eh.

Yep

Only at a basket case of a club like ours would the club sign a starting striker for next season when they don't even have a coach to run his approval over the new signing

FMD

[StannyCFCJET]

Yep

Only at a basket case of a club like ours would the club sign a starting striker for next season when they don't even have a coach to run his approval over the new signing

FMD

At least it will piss off the gypos

[lquiquer]

"O’Donovan’s recruitment is a major coup"..... :yeahright: :roflz:

[Mark325]

we could defininetly do worse with our striker, dude got 11 goals last season in an equally shit team, I could easily see him doing better then that if (big ask) we set up quality dudes round him

not a fan of the two years, especially when our new coach didnt even make this signing

[Roundball Enthusiast]

we could defininetly do worse with our striker, dude got 11 goals last season in an equally shit team, I could easily see him doing better then that if (big ask) we set up quality dudes round him

not a fan of the two years, especially when our new coach didnt even make this signing

WSW and Brisbane were shy due to his wage demands as well..

Sounds like we've offered him a nice retirement package.

[MonkeyKplunk]

20 Goals in 42 Appearances, with the same quality of players behind him.
We could do worse.

If we can get some half decent blokes behind him I don't think it will matter who the manager is.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Yep

Only at a basket case of a club like ours would the club sign a starting striker for next season when they don't even have a coach to run his approval over the new signing

FMD

Clubs do it all the time (maybe not our club, as they are inept).
However, Jones looks like he knew the writing was on the wall weeks ago. Swift sacking post season. If (and it's a big if) the club was planning properly they would have a manager in mind and would be informally discussing recruitment.

In any case, most coaches would like a regular, hard working goal scoring in this league as a signing.

[Jetmaster]

Yep

Only at a basket case of a club like ours would the club sign a starting striker for next season when they don't even have a coach to run his approval over the new signing

FMD

It would appear that negotiations (which have been going some time) were too far progressed to put a stall on it - I'm comfortable with the decision.

[Wilso8948]

Good to see it's under the cap. Throw some big money at a quality 10

[borat]

WSW and Brisbane were shy due to his wage demands as well..

Sounds like we've offered him a nice retirement package.250k is the rumour

[rhysd]

Good to see it's under the cap. Throw some big money at a quality 10

agreed.

[MFKS]

It would appear that negotiations (which have been going some time) were too far progressed to put a stall on it - I'm comfortable with the decision.

If he has signed prior to Jones getting the arse then fair enough we have to honour the deal

But if he is actually putting pen to paper since lunch time Sunday then we are well within our rights to hold off on committing

If it meant we missed out on Our Caravan then so be it


Negotiation 101 until both sides have signed all promises are worth shit from both parties

If we had a competent CEO we would do things like this but we are a basket case of a club who employ Lord Mayor's for the gig instead

[rhysd]

250k is the rumour

For a proven goal scoring record.. I am comfortable with that (8.6% Salary cap or 7.9% of what we are entitled to spend under the 'cap')

That would represent good value tbh.

[rhysd]

If he has signed prior to Jones getting the arse then fair enough we have to honour the deal

But if he is actually putting pen to paper since lunch time Sunday then we are well within our rights to hold off on committing

If it meant we missed out on Our Caravan then so be it


Negotiation 101 until both sides have signed all promises are worth shit from both parties

If we had a competent CEO we would do things like this but we are a basket case of a club who employ Lord Mayor's for the gig instead

The fact 5/10 A-League clubs were openly chasing him, safe to say he is a player we should sign regardless.

All other negotiations are now being stalled secondary to no coach being in play as yet.

[plague]

not a fan of the two years, especially when our new coach didnt even make this signing

Cause all you guys are cool cool signing short term employment contracts in your own jobs right?

[halo se7en]

Cause all you guys are cool cool signing short term employment contracts in your own jobs right?

I think people forget that players are unlikely to sign 1 year deals. And while we shouldn't be held to ransom by players, we'd be doing bloody well to sign a decent squad to 1 year contracts. Not to mention if they perform well, re-signing most of them after 1 year would be nigh on impossible while a salary cap exists.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

The fact 5/10 A-League clubs were openly chasing him, safe to say he is a player we should sign regardless.

All other negotiations are now being stalled secondary to no coach being in play as yet.

Not sure where you got the 5/10 from.

Us
Brisbane
WSW

Brisbane have a far superior striker.
WSW could use him.

[lil_masi]

I'm happy with 250k. Seems a reasonable amount for a decent player. Considering we're paying Boogs 320k!!

[MFKS]

The fact 5/10 A-League clubs were openly chasing him, safe to say he is a player we should sign regardless.

All other negotiations are now being stalled secondary to no coach being in play as yet.

Has nothing to do with who is chasing him

Our new manager who ever that may be needs 100% control of incoming / out going players for next season

Why you advocating we sign a player that may not even for the game plan of new manager??

We seen what happened when Jones didn't utilise Kokko as he didn't rate him

The other thing to note is Foreigners can give us a point of difference under the new bloke

Why mow his ****ing grass and take up spot no 3 behind Kokko and Brown whom he may not even want either

[rhysd]

Not sure where you got the 5/10 from.

Us
Brisbane
WSW

Brisbane have a far superior striker.
WSW could use him.

Adelaide
Ccm

5

[rhysd]

Has nothing to do with who is chasing him

Our new manager who ever that may be needs 100% control of incoming / out going players for next season

Why you advocating we sign a player that may not even for the game plan of new manager??

We seen what happened when Jones didn't utilise Kokko as he didn't rate him

The other thing to note is Foreigners can give us a point of difference under the new bloke

Why mow his ****ing grass and take up spot no 3 behind Kokko and Brown whom he may not even want either

Then the new manager can sell him if he doesn't want him. I'm sure there will be clubs lining up for a 20/42 ratio striker

[Grimario]

Not sure where you got the 5/10 from.

Us
Brisbane
WSW

Brisbane have a far superior striker.
WSW could use him.

Brisbane are also losing the far superior striker so were actively chasing a replacement.

[hawk]

Im on the lounge with this one, comfy as. o'caro will toe poke a few in and add some pace which wont be used due to no ball coming over. lols

[The Dunster]

Im on the lounge with this one, comfy as. o'caro will toe poke a few in and add some pace which wont be used due to no ball coming over. lols

Same reservations here. We will have him totally isolated and the goals will simply dry up.

[Mark325]

Cause all you guys are cool cool signing short term employment contracts in your own jobs right?

Fair point, not employed nor have I ever seriously looked for work so I guess I look at it through different eyes then someone with a family and who is tryin to provide for himself and a family

[halo se7en]

Same reservations here. We will have him totally isolated and the goals will simply dry up.

We have to score goals first before they can dry up.

[De-Champ]

Has nothing to do with who is chasing him

Our new manager who ever that may be needs 100% control of incoming / out going players for next season

Why you advocating we sign a player that may not even for the game plan of new manager??

We seen what happened when Jones didn't utilise Kokko as he didn't rate him

The other thing to note is Foreigners can give us a point of difference under the new bloke

Why mow his ****ing grass and take up spot no 3 behind Kokko and Brown whom he may not even want either

Depends what you define the coaching role to be. The English method is too give the coach control over who he signs. European clubs have a technical director/football manager who basically signes players and the coach simply coaches.
The argument can go either way.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Yep

Only at a basket case of a club like ours would the club sign a starting striker for next season when they don't even have a coach to run his approval over the new signing

FMD

Sounds like we have found Griff's first ever mistake then have we?

[MFKS]

Sounds like we have found Griff's first ever mistake then have we?

Griff does not do mistakes

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Griff does not do mistakes

Signing O'Donovan this week good work then?

[The Dunster]

We have to score goals first before they can dry up.

Very true.

[The Dunster]

Griff does not do mistakes

He played for Sydney FC.

[Jeterpool]

He played for Sydney FC.

Never happened

[Guerny]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/04/19/exclusive-kewell-headlines-candidates-jets-coaching-job

[leftrightout]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/04/19/exclusive-kewell-headlines-candidates-jets-coaching-job

Seems like a bunch of unproven legends or run of the mill, recycled a-league managers.

Would love Teddy Sheringham but, one of my favourites of all time!

[The Dunster]

Another ten years of failure coming if any of those names mentioned get the job. Kewell has already failed at Watford U23's, Sherringhams stint in League 2 had him winning only 7 or so from 33 games....
The clubs doing it wrong. They should be head hunting not asking for resumes / CV's from all comers. Do your research, work out a short list and then go after them. Simply advertising it like a regular job you will end up with the same dross we have had for the past ten years or so - only the names have changed.

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/17/17a8e5a6a9ae9a8769d437a15f4aa4d4433137f45a07d84e01 fa6d409d9aa23f.jpg

[Grimario]

Sherringhams stint in League 2 had him winning only 7 or so from 33 games....

That would work out about one win more from 27 than we currently get. Sign him up.

[Grimario]

Also Dunster... head hunting an employed coach/manager means money has to be given over to get them out of contract (usually). Do you really see us paying a transfer fee of sorts for a coach when we are only ever financed for bargain bin or uncontracted players?

[The Dunster]

Also Dunster... head hunting an employed coach/manager means money has to be given over to get them out of contract (usually). Do you really see us paying a transfer fee of sorts for a coach when we are only ever financed for bargain bin or uncontracted players?

There are plenty of top quality managers currently off contract that the Jets could approach - who would most likely never apply for the position.

Roberto Mancini,Laurent Blanc, Andrea Mandorlini, Rémi Garde,Cesare Prandelli, Paolo Di Canio, Frank de Boer...

You can apply for a position and not get it or you can be asked if you want a job without applying for it and politely decline the offer.
By not approaching some of the talent in Europe that is off contract the club is never going to know if these guys are interested or not.
These guys would not take the risk to their reputations of applying for a position at a lesser league only to be turned down.
If however, they were offered the job without having to apply it would be a lot more encouraging to them and the choice would be theirs meaning no risk to their reputations.
They could essentially talk it up as them taking on a challenge to develop the game in Australia and about adding an ACL trophy to their list of achievements.

But if the club simply leave it up to these top quality guys to apply it's simply never going to happen.

No doubt they would probably all turn the offer down if we made it as well - but at least we tried.

At the very least though the club should get one of this lot in as a consultant to tell us what we need player wise and so on.

[furns]

Keep the discussion on the search for the new manager in the relevant thread please

[Couscous]

Someone here said something recently about the Newy Herald blokes not knowing anything about the club.

I just listened to Gardiner on the Daily Football Show. No insight at all.

Furns, offer up yourself or one of your podcast buddies to DFS to discuss Newy matters in future. Just make sure you ditch all that what's your favourite breakfast cereal/football kit stuff.

OK cu bye.

[furns]

Someone here said something recently about the Newy Herald blokes not knowing anything about the club.

I just listened to Gardiner on the Daily Football Show. No insight at all.

Furns, offer up yourself or one of your podcast buddies to DFS to discuss Newy matters in future. Just make sure you ditch all that what's your favourite breakfast cereal/football kit stuff.

OK cu bye.Haha
DFS havent been interested in us since we turned down the offer to join their podcast network

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Scum now have no goal keeper + just released Ferreira.. I hope we have a bigger budget than they do...

[The Camel]

Scum now have no goal keeper + just released Ferreira.. I hope we have a bigger budget than they do...

Didn't they sign that shit **** BK in goals?

[belchardo]

Didn't they sign that shit **** BK in goals?

see I don't really get this attitude. I have no problem with you not rating him as a keeper, but everything I've heard about him off the field has been good. why have a go at him personally?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Didn't they sign that shit **** BK in goals?

Hasn't been officially announced yet...

[tomo]

see I don't really get this attitude. I have no problem with you not rating him as a keeper, but everything I've heard about him off the field has been good. why have a go at him personally?

I didnt see it as a personal attack... i seen it as he's a shit **** keeper... which is a pretty fair statement

[The Camel]

see I don't really get this attitude. I have no problem with you not rating him as a keeper, but everything I've heard about him off the field has been good. why have a go at him personally?

Comment was based on him being the Mark Jones of Goalkeepers. And signing for the Gypos.

[StannyCFCJET]

Manchester Shitty bout to sign Mclaren according to TWG. Another ****ed up Loan deal for Melb City. FFA need to stamp this out

[The Dunster]

Manchester Shitty bout to sign Mclaren according to TWG. Another ****ed up Loan deal for Melb City. FFA need to stamp this out

Waste of time even having a salary cap with this sort of shit going on.

[MFKS]

Waste of time even having a salary cap with this sort of shit going on.

But you do realise the salary cap is probably needed more by the better sides??

By having a salary cap it forces clubs like us and the Gypos to spend money on useless players.

Heaven forbid they drop the Salary cap the Jets and Gypos might put money into Yoof programmes and actually get better players.

The salary cap is a good thing for the elite as it stops the smaller clubs actually trying something outside the box to get competitive

Smurfs City Victree WSW already have their advantage with the 3 marquees that are out of the grasp of the rest of the club's.

They ain't going to want to change a system that hands them ascendancy

[hawk]

But you do realise the salary cap is probably needed more by the better sides??

By having a salary cap it forces clubs like us and the Gypos to spend money on useless players.

Heaven forbid they drop the Salary cap the Jets and Gypos might put money into Yoof programmes and actually get better players.

The salary cap is a good thing for the elite as it stops the smaller clubs actually trying something outside the box to get competitive

Smurfs City Victree WSW already have their advantage with the 3 marquees that are out of the grasp of the rest of the club's.

They ain't going to want to change a system that hands them ascendancy

another load of faeces from the member for dunnies.

[turbojetfireV8]

someone here musta piss'd Mr Dill off, he's calling us whingers now: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4613526/robert-dillon-sporting-declaration/?cs=3398 :thumbsup:

[plague]

someone here musta piss'd Mr Dill off, he's calling us whingers now: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4613526/robert-dillon-sporting-declaration/?cs=3398 :thumbsup:

Nah, he just wanted to tell everyone that he's a proper journo because he's been to Highbury and Old Trafford.

oh and that he knows Brad Bannister.

Good for him.

[Jeterpool]

someone here musta piss'd Mr Dill off, he's calling us whingers now: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4613526/robert-dillon-sporting-declaration/?cs=3398 :thumbsup:

Don't click on the link and give him the hit.

[belchardo]

hey look! another group of canberrans lining up to repeatedly headbutt a wall! :banghead::deadhorse:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/act-sport/canberra-man-jeff-williamson-leading-the-capitals-aleague-expansion-bid-20170423-gvqkbd.html

in all seriousness though, good luck to them.

[Couscous]

someone here musta piss'd Mr Dill off, he's calling us whingers now: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4613526/robert-dillon-sporting-declaration/?cs=3398 :thumbsup:

What's Bob Dillon playing at with this line: "...worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as Pele, Maradona, Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp"?


DFS havent been interested in us since we turned down the offer to join their podcast network

Why did you turn them down, Furns?

Was it because of George Donikian, and how's he's a complete flog who interrupts every "interviewee" just to "ask" them a monologue that has no question?

Was it because of Adrian Houghton's struggles with grammar and overuse of cliches?

Or was it because of Mark van Aken's inability to complete a sentence without inserting an anecdote?

They're all forgivable sins (except for Donikian); maybe you should give them a go.

[q-money]

i actually thought that dillon article was pretty fair tbh


Imagine if they were supporting a team of no-hopers, such as, for example, the Newcastle Jets.

The Novocastrian faithful have endured seven consecutive seasons as finals spectators, and another wooden spoon campaign that cost coach Mark Jones his job.

All of which gives them licence to whinge and vent to their heart’s content.

no issue with any single part of it

[MFKS]

someone here musta piss'd Mr Dill off, he's calling us whingers now: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4613526/robert-dillon-sporting-declaration/?cs=3398 :thumbsup:

No I think Dillon just having fun trolling the same 6-8 he been trolling with his and Lowe's get off Mark Jones back stance as it ain't his fault the Jets are shite

Same people carrying on in every ****ing article the Herald has written the last two months

What was even funnier was them following him to Twitter and he called them dickheads and they had a cry about it

[Couscous]

In other news, the Melbourne Victory fans' website (not that I'm a Victory fan) has been struck by dwindling readership and a malware infection. The owner suggests he'll shut the site down shortly and not bother reopening it.

Well done, Furns, on outlasting an A-League giant.

[hawk]

No I think Dillon just having fun trolling the same 6-8 he been trolling with his and Lowe's get off Mark Jones back stance as it ain't his fault the Jets are shite

Same people carrying on in every ****ing article the Herald has written the last two months

What was even funnier was them following him to Twitter and he called them dickheads and they had a cry about it

Wrong.

He's losing the battle to look like a legit journo.

[furns]

In other news, the Melbourne Victory fans' website (not that I'm a Victory fan) has been struck by dwindling readership and a malware infection. The owner suggests he'll shut the site down shortly and not bother reopening it.

Well done, Furns, on outlasting an A-League giant.pffft soft
We survived the GFC (twice?), no reason they couldn't.

[belchardo]

pffft soft
We survived the GFC (twice?), no reason they couldn't.

to be fair to the victory dude, they have way more dickheads than we do. :D

[turbojetfireV8]

No I think Dillon just having fun trolling the same 6-8 he been trolling with his and Lowe's get off Mark Jones back stance as it ain't his fault the Jets are shite

Same people carrying on in every ****ing article the Herald has written the last two months

What was even funnier was them following him to Twitter and he called them dickheads and they had a cry about it

Mr Dill may have found himself a new fav song (complete with Newcastle Newts lovefest):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EFV66paxdg&t

[The Dunster]

another load of faeces from the member for dunnies.

George Stigler won a Nobel Prize in economics for his research on capture theory which pretty much embraces everything MFKS has said in his post.
The big players establish themselves in a market and then capture the regulator to enforce restrictive policies rather than free market ones to stop smaller / more efficient firms from gaining market power.

http://www.rasmusen.org/zg604/readings/Stigler.1971.pdf

[hawk]

George Stigler won a Nobel Prize in economics for his research on capture theory which pretty much embraces everything MFKS has said in his post.
The big players establish themselves in a market and then capture the regulator to enforce restrictive policies rather than free market ones to stop smaller / more efficient firms from gaining market power.

http://www.rasmusen.org/zg604/readings/Stigler.1971.pdf

nothing to do with the member for retard's comment.

A salary cap and its corrupt exemptions are a farce anyway but scrapping it ensures that well have a Scottish premiership.

[The Dunster]

nothing to do with the member for retard's comment.

A salary cap and its corrupt exemptions are a farce anyway but scrapping it ensures that well have a Scottish premiership.

Agreed. It's not the cap that is the issue. It's the influence of the larger / cashed up teams upon the regulator to change the rules to unbalance the smaller less cashed up clubs.

What's needed is a firm set of rules that can only be changed if all clubs agree. Currently it's a case of Sydney FC and the Melbourne clubs getting whatever they ask for without any consideration for the smaller less cashed up clubs.

[lquiquer]

Neville out of WSW....Where will he end up?...(Don't want him)...

[westjet]

Neville out of WSW....Where will he end up?...(Don't want him)...
I think he was meant to be returning to Perth.

[lquiquer]

I think he was meant to be returning to Perth.

probably

[OmeletteDuFromage]

I think he was meant to be returning to Perth.

Already signed a deal - http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/04/25/neville-confirms-wanderers-departure

[turbojetfireV8]

Is this just a cost cutting exercise?
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4621112/players-past-and-present-defend-closing-ffa-centre-of-excellence-at-ais/?cs=2439

[De-Champ]

Is this just a cost cutting exercise?
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4621112/players-past-and-present-defend-closing-ffa-centre-of-excellence-at-ais/?cs=2439

No I do not think so...As the theory goes as every A League club has now its own junior set up (at least the youth league playing in off season in NPL) then there is no need for the FFA centre of excellence, as the players selected to go there would now be playing for their respective clubs etc etc.

[Frodo]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/04/29/newcastle-jets-sign-ernie-merrick/


Goes to show that
A) Merrick's appointment would be an unnispiring choice
B) He would probably be better than what we have had for the last 3 years.
C) Wellington have managed to sign better players than ours and they live in a country that was saved from destruction by Hobbits during the War of the Rings.

[rhysd]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/04/29/newcastle-jets-sign-ernie-merrick/


Goes to show that
A) Merrick's appointment would be an unnispiring choice
B) He would probably be better than what we have had for the last 3 years.
C) Wellington have managed to sign better players than ours and they live in a country that was saved from destruction by Hobbits during the War of the Rings.

Wellington have notoriously struggled for consistent form but at their best could match it with anyone on their day.

The article, which was a good read, illustrated merrick's ability to come in and change the fortunes of the side around. His first 2 seasons at Wellington had strikingly similar characteristics to his first 2 at Melbourne. Just that travel logistics and NZ politics undoubtedly had a major telling on his downfall in his 3Rd season.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if merrick has been in the background at the jets for sometime now. Perhaps even calling the shots on some of the player signings.

Merrick is proven at A-League level and for the most part appears to exhibit good man management traits (barring barbarouses fallout- anyone got the goss there?).

Merrick is an experienced operator and enjoyed success at the league's most successful club for a good portion of time.

Merrick would be a safe choice and would be a name that would attract the "cream of the crop".

[MFKS]

Wellington have notoriously struggled for consistent form but at their best could match it with anyone on their day.

SAME SAME AS US.

The article, which was a good read, illustrated merrick's ability to come in and change the fortunes of the side around. His first 2 seasons at Wellington had strikingly similar characteristics to his first 2 at Melbourne. Just that travel logistics and NZ politics undoubtedly had a major telling on his downfall in his 3Rd season.

HIS FIRST SEASON AT VICTREE HE FAILED EPICLY SAME WITH HIS 3rd EPICLY.
TO BE FAIR MERRICK SHOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER AT VICTREE CONSIDERING HIS PLAYING ROSTER AND CLUB BEING WELL RUN BEHIND HIM

I wouldn't be overly surprised if merrick has been in the background at the jets for sometime now. Perhaps even calling the shots on some of the player signings.

IF HE HAS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR CLUB IN THE BACKGROUND THAT IS A BIG CONCERN. JONES HAS BEEN WHITE ANTED BY THE PLAYERS. MERRICK BEING INVOLVED MEANS HE HAS BEEN ALSO WHITEANTED BY THE CEO AND OWNER

Merrick is proven at A-League level and for the most part appears to exhibit good man management traits (barring barbarouses fallout- anyone got the goss there?).
THE BLOKE IS GOING TO NEED TO BE A MAGICIAN NOT HAVE GOOD MAN MANAGEMENT SKILLS TO SORT OUR MESS OUT

Merrick is an experienced operator and enjoyed success at the league's most successful club for a good portion of time.
SO HAS KEVIN MUSCAT _ DOESNT MAKE HIM A GREAT MANAGER THOUGH DOES IT??

Merrick would be a safe choice and would be a name that would attract the "cream of the crop".
OBVIOUSLY NOT THE REAL CREAM JUST THE CREAM MUCH BETTER THAN WE GET


Not going to matter much anyway when the club white ants him in 12 months time as he doesn't achieve instant results with shit footballers

[StannyCFCJET]

Not going to matter much anyway when the club white ants him in 12 months time as he doesn't achieve instant results with shit footballers

Its not about istant reults and its about showing your improving the squad and that the players in the squad are getting better as a team or individualy. Jones did neither. Didnt make the 6 and had excuse after excuse. He is gone time to hope the New coach can do better. Sadly Jones has set the bar really low as Stubbins did for Miller

[MFKS]

Its not about istant reults and its about showing your improving the squad and that the players in the squad are getting better as a team or individualy. Jones did neither. Didnt make the 6 and had excuse after excuse. He is gone time to hope the New coach can do better. Sadly Jones has set the bar really low as Stubbins did for Miller

Doesn't matter

We will not go anywhere regardless until the owner shows patience and gets the club sorted from top to bottom Mourinhio couldn't save us

As if Merrick will do much with an Assistant like Zane

[StannyCFCJET]

Doesn't matter

We will not go anywhere regardless until the owner shows patience and gets the club sorted from top to bottom Mourinhio couldn't save us

As if Merrick will do much with an Assistant like Zane

Patience is fine if it is the Right manager. Jones is not/never was

[Jetmaster]

So too the important things in football. Who will be the hottest WAGs at the A-League awards tonight?

[MFKS]

So too the important things in football. Who will be the hottest WAGs at the A-League awards tonight?

Defo not Our Caravan.

His missus is carrying a bit

[lquiquer]

:roflz:
Defo not Our Caravan.

His missus is carrying a bit

[plague]

Defo not Our Caravan.

His missus is carrying a bit

yeah look im all for giving people a whack but leave the families out of this please gang.

[lquiquer]

yeah look im all for giving people a whack but leave the families out of this please gang.

All good Plague he is only Our Caravan next month.....so still currently a Gypo :tongue:

[Jetmaster]

Fox girls Tara and Amy both scrub up as class acts. From the short glimpses McLaren's looked very nice.

[Grimario]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-media-watch-clubs-walk-out-of-meeting-gillett-gets-grand-final-allianz-pitch-admission/news-story/d0868da5568f39932ae127361fc93345