16/17 HAL Round 21 | Newcastle Jets v C Coast Mariners | Sun 26th Feb 2017 5:00pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 16/17 Round 21 Preview - Newcastle Jets v Central Coast Mariners

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 39 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 11, Mariners Wins - 13, Drawn - 15


In Newcastle – 19 matches.
Jets Wins - 7, Mariners Wins - 4, Drawn - 8
In Gosford - 19 matches
Jets Wins - 3, Mariners Wins - 9, Drawn - 7

Average Home A-League Crowd – 12455
Average Away A-League Crowd - 10864

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 36, Mariners - 47
In Newcastle -
Jets – 20, Mariners - 17

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 19, Mariners - 17

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 96 (92 yellow, 4 red), Mariners 57 (52 yellow, 5 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - LWLDL (4 points from last 15)
Mariners - LWWWL (9 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Andrew Nabbout (7)
Mariners – Roy O'Donovan (10)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 1 (Nordstrand 64') - Central Coast Mariners 1 (McGing 42') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 7, Season 2016/17

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2016/17 Round 7

Newcastle JetsCentral Coast Mariners
Jack DuncanPaul Izzo
Jason HoffmanStorm Roux
John KoutroumbisLiam Rose
Iain FyfeJake McGing
Nick CowburnMichael Neill
Wayne BrownNick Montgomery
Mateo PoljakMickael Taveres
Devante ClutBlake Powell
Andrew NabboutFabio Ferreira
Andrew HooleRoy O'Donovan
Morten NordstrandConnor Pain



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Nordstrand 1', Alivodic 18', Nordstrand 54', Poljak 79') - Mariners 2 (Ferreira 51' pen, O'Donovan 76') Round 27, Season 2015/16 at Central Coast Stadium, 09/04/2016.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 - (Coveny 85') - Mariners 4 (Gumprecht 4', Brown 34', Hutchinson 72', 83'), Round 16, Season 2005/06 at Express Advocate Stadium, 31/12/2005.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (6)
Mariners - Matt Simon (6)



2016/17 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubstitute AppearancesSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed - Second BookableStraight Red
2Daniel Mullen1091181400100
3Jason Hoffman191812159610200
4Nigel Boogaard151501131421500
5Ben Kantarovski752346401000
6Steven Ugarkovic181713148610500
7Andrew Hoole191900171052600
8Mateo Poljak191545135010100
9Aleksandr Kokko936325900100
10Wayne Brown171434123221500
11Labinot Haliti312011600000
12Andy Brennan21119500000
12Harrison Sawyer30304700100
13Ivan Vujica1091377500100
15Andrew Nabbout171616135874300
16Nick Cowburn131121103900000
18Ma Leilei1376660112500
19Morten Nordstrand161339112231100
20Jack Duncan202000180000000
22Lachlan Jackson1091178700100
23Devante Clut17710667612000
24Kristian Brymora1010600000
26Iain Fyfe330220500100
28John Koutroumbis1789183000400



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Mark Jones - 0 wins, Paul Okon - 0 wins, 1 draw

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Mark Jones - 1 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (6 wins, 6 drawn and 5 losses = 35% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 2 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (1 win, 2 drawn, 3 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 losses = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans -1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)

Central Coast Mariners Coach Record – Paul Okon 0% win ratio (0 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses)




TALKING POINTS:


General

The Jets are undefeated in the last 5 home games.
The last 5 home F3 derby fixtures have ended in a draw.
This match is being held 2 days after the 9th anniversary of the Jets GF win.
22 of the 83 goals in this fixture have been scored in the last 15 minutes.
This is the 8th consecutive F3 derby to kick off at either 5:00pm or 5:15pm.



Players

Morten Nordstrand has scored in the last 2 derbies.
This will be the 12th F3 derby for Jason Hoffman. He has lost just one F3 derby - the semi final second leg in 2008.
When a Jets visa player has scored in the fixture (9 occasions), they have lost only once. That was in season 2005/06 when Vaughan Coveny scored an 85th minute goal in a 4-1 loss.
John Koutroumbis is 1 yellow card away from a one week suspension.



Newcastle Jets

The Jets are undefeated in the F3 Derby for the last 869 days. This is the last 6 matches.
Newcastle have won once in the last 10 Sunday matches.
The Jets have conceded 3 penalties in the last 4 matches.
Newcastle are 4 cards away from receiving their 100th card in this fixture.



Central Coast Mariners

A Mariners player has been dismissed in the last 2 derbies at MJ Stadium.
The Mariners have kept 2 clearn sheets in their last 5 matches

[hawk]

6 pt game, must win, best side should start, give kokko more time, ref cost us, had heaps more chances, never a pen, secos disgrace, we've got the team(lol)........#inb4evry1else

[RAM]

Jets - LWLDL (4 points from last 15)


hahaha :(

[belchardo]

did the yellows get reset at the completion of the last round or after this round?

[Frodo]

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Mark Jones - 1 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses = 67% win ratio)

The Stats that matter.

Although, both are undefeated against the Sauce Bottlers. So Jones could do himself a lot of favours with a win this weekend.

[Rocknerd]

Geez, we'll here it is. A must win match, again. We ate shit, Jones doesn't have the mentality to understand the importance of win this match at any cost.
We'll lose.

[Jeterpool]

Geez, we'll here it is. A must win match, again. We ate shit, Jones doesn't have the mentality to understand the importance of win this match at any cost.
We'll lose.

I'd disagree that Jones doesn't understand the importance of this game. He was around when the F3 derby was the only derby in the country and both teams are at the top of their game. He knows what this means to the fans.

Shouldn't need much motivation to get the team up this week.

[belchardo]

I'd disagree that Jones doesn't understand the importance of this game. He was around when the F3 derby was the only derby in the country and both teams are at the top of their game. He knows what this means to the fans.

Shouldn't need much motivation to get the team up this week.

I didn't think they should have needed much last week either.

[Jeterpool]

I didn't think they should have needed much last week either.

You'd think so. But it's different going up against rivals versus the team who is last and getting played off the park for the most part each week.

Perhaps complacency had crept in?

[plague]

Not going.
**** this club.
Will be at pub.
Enjoy the garbage lads.

[steve136]

You'd think so. But it's different going up against rivals versus the team who is last and getting played off the park for the most part each week.

Perhaps complacency had crept in?

Understandable. It's hard for the boys not to get swept up in the magnitude of their 25% win record this season.

[The Dunster]

Coast to win 5-0.

Jets to continue their ten year rebuilding phase.

[Jetmaster]

Who was it who wisely said....the F3 derby only matters to the Mariners players and Jets fans?!

[turbojetfireV8]

Kokko needs to play this game, he should be motivated enough by his last encounter with this trash to want to prove a point against them, time Jones puts him and Nordstrand out there together early and let them draw the gyppos' defence while Hoole and Nabbout run riot up the wings - which of course means Jones won't do it...

[halo se7en]

Coast to win 5-0.

...and Jones to still be immune from criticism.

[StannyCFCJET]

If we lose this don't know how I'd bring my self to attend anymore home games this year. **** this club for making it depressing and disheartening to follow football and the A-League

[Superdylan]

Off to thailand the following day. Need a good start to my holiday.

4 years and 4 months without a home win against the gypos is disgusting.

[plague]

Off to thailand the following day. Need a good start to my holiday.


any chance we can get a running diary?

[furns]

Who was it who wisely said....the F3 derby only matters to the Mariners players and Jets fans?!
Aaron Kearney

[cobra23]

we will win 3-1

[hawk]

Shouldn't need much motivation to get the team up this week.

Thats what we say everytime and nearly everytime we casually canter around hoping someone will do something.

So, last chance win or or hand ya shirt back

[Nou Camp]

who is suspended for this game?

[Macca]

Boogard, Brown, Lei Lei. Surely either Clut or Kokko will be starting with the other to feature off the bench.

[Nou Camp]

so the team will be

Duncan
mullen Jackson kout hoff
urga polkaj
hoole nobby nabo
kokko

[Jardelsimage]

Jones is onto a win-win situation, no matter who he plays and what the outcome is.......

we lose: Understrength team and we tried real hard, game plan didn't work because of the new players...Kokko, plays him, he's shit.
we win: super coach with under strength side, game plan devised worked great. If Kokko starts and scores, finally fit enough.
Jones is a genius!!!!

[furns]

I can't see it
Cowburn or Vujica will return to LB, Hoff will go back to RB and Mullen will partner Jackson.
Expect Clut to come in for Leilei.
Any other changes will be on the subs bench

[evanhayes5]

so the team will be

Duncan
mullen Jackson kout hoff
urga polkaj
hoole nobby nabo
kokko

This will be the team

or Clut in for Kokko

[Jeterpool]

This will be the team

or Clut in for Kokko

Mullen needs to be central to handle o'donovan

Two young CBs is asking for trouble

[Nou Camp]

Purely just going off what the pecking order for players seems to be at the moment
I had the same thought with the 2 younger centre backs

[RAM]

Mullen needs to be central to handle o'donovan

Two young CBs is asking for trouble

Mullen's shit.

The two younguns won't handle the devious, street smart, O'Caravan though.

[The Dunster]

Play Kanta and instruct him to kick the shit out of O'Donavan and make it clear it's the only way he will get another contract with the Jets.
If he gets a red card so what, we probably weren't going to play him again anyway.

It's disappointing that nobody else came up with a similar plan.

[Jeterpool]

Mullen's shit.

The two younguns won't handle the devious, street smart, O'Caravan though.

Would we rather Mullen against O'Donovan with the help of Jackson or against Pain or Ferreira?

I know I'd rather Hoffman and Cowburn against Pain and Buhagiar than out Mullen on the right.

[Jetmaster]

Sign Griff on 1 day contract....he starts...kicks O'D in the nuts, headbutts him...and walks off to a standing ovation.

[Jeterpool]

Sign Griff on 1 day contract....he starts...kicks O'D in the nuts, headbutts him...and walks off to a standing ovation.

And zads to go through that grub McGing...but do it from the bench Timmy style

[turbojetfireV8]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4489175/jets-hope-traditional-rivalry-is-a-hot-ticket/?cs=3398

Would love to see a good crowd, but still worried people are voting with their feet. Our crowds have been steadily dwindling due to another season of inconsistent football and people are still disillusioned by it all after so many years of failure - if it were true that our playing style is enough to draw in the crowds we would be seeing an increase rather than steady decline at the turnstiles. We need results, and solid results at that, to turn a few more through the gates, game v Tards was a really good game but we didn't win, followed by a gutless loss the next game against the cellar dwellers, and no-one is going to have great expectations of us thrashing the gyppos, so why would they wanna turn up? All our coach will say if we lose is 'it is what it is' - totally over if Jonesy, we have the cattle to be a top 6 contender, if you aren't capable of making them meet their potential f*ck off back to Adelaide juniors and let Clayton coach us for the rest of the season...

[Jetmaster]

Now about McBreen on Shoutout the other night - said he begged GVE to sign him up for the Jets when he came back from overseas. Sounded like some bad blood there.

[q-money]

surely kokko bags a hatty

[hawk]

surely kokko bags a hatty

Would immediately win hearts and minds of newy and become Mayor

[Jeterpool]

Would immediately win hearts and minds of newy and become Mayor

He does that it would allow him to say hi to Griff.

[The Dunster]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4489175/jets-hope-traditional-rivalry-is-a-hot-ticket/?cs=3398

Would love to see a good crowd, but still worried people are voting with their feet. Our crowds have been steadily dwindling due to another season of inconsistent football and people are still disillusioned by it all after so many years of failure - if it were true that our playing style is enough to draw in the crowds we would be seeing an increase rather than steady decline at the turnstiles. We need results, and solid results at that, to turn a few more through the gates, game v Tards was a really good game but we didn't win, followed by a gutless loss the next game against the cellar dwellers, and no-one is going to have great expectations of us thrashing the gyppos, so why would they wanna turn up? All our coach will say if we lose is 'it is what it is' - totally over if Jonesy, we have the cattle to be a top 6 contender, if you aren't capable of making them meet their potential f*ck off back to Adelaide juniors and let Clayton coach us for the rest of the season...

A lot of people are doing it tough financially at the moment as well which won't be helping. So for many families without a season ticket it's a relatively expensive day out. Hence, the team needs to be even more consistent than it was in the past to keep crowd numbers up as people are looking for a lot more from a dollar during these times.
People like myself that don't work and essentially live off savings are not keen to throw money at anything that's not a sure thing so to speak. I can buy a weeks groceries for close to what it costs to go to a Jets game - and lets face it - they are not worth starving over.
Admittedly, there are some people that place watching Jets at the top of their lists as well. But I would say they are the exception to the rule.

[plague]

Can anyone confirm if this is a must win game or nah?

[turbojetfireV8]

every game we lose from here on in is a must win isn't it??

[StannyCFCJET]

Were not making finals so ill take a Flogging of the Gypos in its place

[halo se7en]

A win would get us into the 6. Put your house on a Mariners win/draw.

[StannyCFCJET]

Nobby and Kokko together fantastic

[MFKS]

A lot of people are doing it tough financially at the moment as well which won't be helping. So for many families without a season ticket it's a relatively expensive day out. Hence, the team needs to be even more consistent than it was in the past to keep crowd numbers up as people are looking for a lot more from a dollar during these times.
People like myself that don't work and essentially live off savings are not keen to throw money at anything that's not a sure thing so to speak. I can buy a weeks groceries for close to what it costs to go to a Jets game - and lets face it - they are not worth starving over.
Admittedly, there are some people that place watching Jets at the top of their lists as well. But I would say they are the exception to the rule.

#PlasticFansAreUs

[MFKS]

Can anyone confirm if this is a must win game or nah?
Depends

If we are interested in making the play offs then yes

But as we are more interested in nailing down 7th any result will do

Being that we are playing a side as shit as the Gypos are it really should be no excuses for failing to get the 3points today.

FFS Boogaard isn't there to give away a needless penalty so we one goal to the good and the game ain't kicked off yet


**** I even back Raheem Sterling to score today

[Grimario]

JD out. This should be... interesting.

[Jetmaster]

Already kicking out Scum fans sitting in Gold Member seating, "to get out of the sun"....ffs.

[plague]

A win would get us into the 6. Put your house on a Mariners win/draw.
Already did.
Paying $2.09
Caaarrrnnn

[MFKS]

Already kicking out Scum fans sitting in Gold Member seating, "to get out of the sun"....ffs.
Turf the filthy Gypos out on their heads

The rest will get the message

[hawk]

#PlasticFansAreUs

Its way more plastic to go overseas during jets season. you missed several training sessions and let everyone down. Cant even look at a schooner right now :(

[hawk]

oh fk, no boooooogard. damn we'll loose this

[steve136]

Well this backup is f*cking shit

[Hunter403]

There's a surprise; they're pressing high/hard and our keeper is slow

[hawk]

5yrs since last prof game. so jets

[steve136]

Nobby and Kokko we told you Jones

[Hunter403]

Kokko: scores against the caravan dwelling gypsy scum. Newy Legend!

[westjet]

The benefits of playing an actual striker with a player who can deliver quality in behind. Should of happened earlier in the season. All those matches with leilei in at 10 what a waste.

[Hunter403]

Mullen struggling with Pain

[Hunter403]

The benefits of playing an actual striker with a player who can deliver quality in behind. Should of happened earlier in the season. All those matches with leilei in at 10 what a waste.

But the owner is happy

[Grimario]

Mullen struggling with Pain
Is he hurt?

[Hunter403]

Thankyou, I'll be here all night!

[Hunter403]

Hoff, love ur work.

[steve136]

Great stuff from the Hoff.

Nabbout - why do you suck now?

[weston]

Sub the keeper ffs!!!!!!

[westjet]

How long is duncan out for?

[Hunter403]

Duncan better be nearly dead. This bloke is a worry

[Grimario]

How long is duncan out for?

Hip flexor injury... strain, few weeks. Tear, few months?

[steve136]

Duncan will be back next week

[Hunter403]

Giving them way to much space 25m out. If they don't tighten up it will cost us

[steve136]

Hope Nabbout is alright but he's been an absolute oxygen thief out there today

[westjet]

Nabbout doesnt seem himself today. Very poor control and putting us under pressure when he loses it.
Been impressed with johnny and kokko so far. Can we make jackson and johnny our starting cbs permanently. Feel safer with those 2 than mullen or boogard (cue one of them giving a penalty away in the second half)

[steve136]

Nabbout doesnt seem himself today. Very poor control and putting us under pressure when he loses it.
Been impressed with johnny and kokko so far. Can we make jackson and johnny our starting cbs permanently. Feel safer with those 2 than mullen or boogard (cue one of them giving a penalty away in the second half)

Nabbout was hopeless against Adelaide too, and not great against Victory. Rough patch of form for him.

Thought Uga had some great moments as well. Jackson and Johnny solid. Kokko offering us something different by winning aerial battles.

[MFKS]

Its way more plastic to go overseas during jets season. you missed several training sessions and let everyone down. Cant even look at a schooner right now :(

Done it twice too

5
5
5

[MFKS]

Poljak Ugarkovic Nordstrand Hoole Nabbout

All ****ing turnstiles in defence

Put the Gypos ****s on their arse or press them FFS

As soon as we cough up the ball it a procession through our midfield

How good is Higuita in goals??
Taken the piss with the Gypos
5
5
5

Johnny K superstar

This half let's just kick the living shit out of them. All half put the Gypos on their arses

[StannyCFCJET]

Kotroumbis on fire your attack is terrified

[MFKS]

Giving them way to much space 25m out. If they don't tighten up it will cost us
Not forget the rest of the space 75m -25m out we giving them too

[MFKS]

How the **** do you get a card for that,??


Disgraceful Jackson get yellow for that

[Hunter403]

Johnny K MOM so far

[Hunter403]

No urgency. Got what we deserved

[steve136]

Knew that was going to happen the second Uga missed a sitter. Classic Jets.

[Hunter403]

Jets yet to return to the field for the second half

[steve136]

We gonna make adjustments or just let ourselves keep getting nailed by the Coasties for the next half hour?

[Hunter403]

Are Nabbout and Hoole playing today?

[steve136]

Are Nabbout and Hoole playing today?

Yep. Just look for the guys stepping on the ball and dribbling into traffic.

[The Dunster]

Why do the players and coaching staff hate us so much ? Regardless of the result this is some of the worst shit I can recall from a Jets team.

[Hunter403]

Gombau just sat down beside me. Can't be here to watch any of ours....

[steve136]

lol Hoole

[steve136]

lol Nordstrand

[StannyCFCJET]

Poijak looks pissed on the bench. Why is he always subbed 60 mins

[MFKS]

Poijak looks pissed on the bench. Why is he always subbed 60 mins
Because he playing that bad Kanta coming on seems like a good idea

[Hunter403]

Gombau laughing his head off at our attack

[steve136]

Nabbout must be deliberately trying to lose this game. Ridiculous not to square that ball.

[westjet]

Jones just sitting back is bugging me. This is a derby he shouldnt be sitting still. Should be up constantly talking to his players (and i dont mean just yelling at them). Set the example and show the players it means something to you.

[steve136]

Buy some wingers who can cross

[Hunter403]

Gombau a HUGE fan of Jackson. Also likes Clut. Bit iffy on Johnny K

[MFKS]

These players are just ****ing shit

Let's call a spade a spade

We opened up enough to win the game comfortable

But they have no quality or ****ing composure to pick out the pass or finish

****ing garbage

Johnny K mom

Next best Kanta

Would not feed the rest

[steve136]

Absolutely hopeless. Hoole Nabbout Mateo and Mullen in particular.

Great half time chat did the job.

I miss Miller era Jets derbys.

[The Dunster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a__4QgP4F-A

[Hunter403]

Yep

[The Dunster]

I like how the jets have a player on his own and a player with two or three on him - so we pass to the player with two or three on him and lose the ball every time.

There were signs this team was going to be different to past seasons but in the past few weeks the past has been back to haunt us.

We leaked a few goals but were at least looking good going forward. Now we have nothing going forward and only marginally better defence.

Back to the rebuilding phase I guess.

Jones on notice. Today was a fair competition even with players unavailable. No excuses to perform this poorly at home against weak opposition

[hawk]

Nabbout must be deliberately trying to lose this game. Ridiculous not to square that ball.

Sadly, Nabbout has lost the plot.

Couldve been worse. Might have jagged a win and Jones claimed supercoach

...And, Hill reported squadron apparently in Bay 1. Was there anyone behind the goals? If not RIP Squadron

[StannyCFCJET]

Jones needs to ****ing stand up and start directing the team like good managers do

[plague]

Good result IMO.

[StannyCFCJET]

Good result IMO.

Sadly i agree with you

[lquiquer]

These players are just ****ing shit

Let's call a spade a spade

We opened up enough to win the game comfortable

But they have no quality or ****ing composure to pick out the pass or finish

****ing garbage

Johnny K mom

Next best Kanta

Would not feed the rest

Young Johnny was terrific ... regarding your point about composure nothing illustrates it more then Hoole unable to flick that pass to noddy unmarked in the middle... very disappointing today and lack of passion is killing me

[halo se7en]

Get that guy that scored two at half time...

[plague]

Sadly i agree with you

so you had a lot of money on it too then yeah?

[Wilso8948]

so you had a lot of money on it too then yeah?
Na. He just totally missed the reference.

[plague]

Na. He just totally missed the reference.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--u6Be6car--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/uoutzoxy883buudvgymb.gif
im sorry are y'all talking right now......

[ForeverRed]

These players are just ****ing shit

Let's call a spade a spade

We opened up enough to win the game comfortable

But they have no quality or ****ing composure to pick out the pass or finish

****ing garbage

Johnny K mom

Next best Kanta

Would not feed the rest
He cost us the goal

[StannyCFCJET]

so you had a lot of money on it too then yeah?

I wish draw was soo tempting

[halo se7en]

Super coach was at it again with his super subs. Allwright for Nordstrand with 5 minutes left. Wtf. A bench that had no striker knowing full well Kokko and/or Nords would not last 90 minutes. Was Haliti injured? Or that young lanky kid that I don't rate but at least has 'striker' under his name?

[plague]

I wish draw was soo tempting

That's ok my G, I'm in Adelaide doubling up at the casino next weekend if anyone's keen.

[MFKS]

He cost us the goal

What cost us the goal was the set up at corners.

We don't have anyone stay near the top of the d

As a result we have a hard time clearing balls well

Secondly what cost us was also our happiness to jockey and hold position. It leads to not being first to the ball which in and around your box is a massive requirement

[WolfMan]

What cost us the goal was the set up at corners.

We don't have anyone stay near the top of the d

As a result we have a hard time clearing balls well

Secondly what cost us was also our happiness to jockey and hold position. It leads to not being first to the ball which in and around your box is a massive requirement

Which of the players do you blame for the tactical setup at corners? Or the team ethos to jockey for that matter?

Or, wait.... you're not actually saying this might be..... part of Jones' job????

[ForeverRed]

What cost us the goal was the set up at corners.

We don't have anyone stay near the top of the d

As a result we have a hard time clearing balls well

Secondly what cost us was also our happiness to jockey and hold position. It leads to not being first to the ball which in and around your box is a massive requirement

If johnny doesn't give the ball so easily it's doesn't become a corner, easy

[StannyCFCJET]

If johnny doesn't give the ball so easily it's doesn't become a corner, easy

Johnny was superb all game even saved us a goal with that clearance. Ill let his one mistake go. Mullen on the other hand IS NOT a Rb, Hell he shouldn't be in the team full-stop got destroyed by pain all game and then kept trying stupid things when he got the ball

[StannyCFCJET]

Super coach was at it again with his super subs. Allwright for Nordstrand with 5 minutes left. Wtf. A bench that had no striker knowing full well Kokko and/or Nords would not last 90 minutes. Was Haliti injured? Or that young lanky kid that I don't rate but at least has 'striker' under his name?

What has happened to Brymora, I dont want another coach who has his favourites and certain other players don't get a look in no matter what

[Wilso8948]

Their goal was a screamer. There's no one to blame stop clutching at straws. Mullen didn't get destroyed. He wasn't even half bad. Was probably a fair result in the end. I would have loved to see us pinch it but Kokko and Nordstrand breaking down really hurt us in the end. Game was flat after that.
Really appreciated going to a game and being thoroughly entertained throughout. Even a bit of excitement in the crowd was good signs for the future

[StannyCFCJET]

Their goal was a screamer. There's no one to blame stop clutching at straws. Mullen didn't get destroyed. He wasn't even half bad. Was probably a fair result in the end. I would have loved to see us pinch it but Kokko and Nordstrand breaking down really hurt us in the end. Game was flat after that.
Really appreciated going to a game and being thoroughly entertained throughout. Even a bit of excitement in the crowd was good signs for the future

Yes Mullen did most of the game Pain went straight past him. Last 20 mins Mullen made some interceptions cause Pain got tried then subbed. Mullen has 1 good game every 4 weeks or so and keeps his place. Keep the Hoff at RB and Stick Cowburn and Vujica at LB for good. Mullen should now be behind Boogs Jackson and Johhny K in the pecking order

[Hunter403]

My thoughts, for what they're worth.
Arcaba is shaky
Mullen is behind Jackson and Katroumbis to partner Boogaard.
Get Vuj or Cowburn to LB and Hoff to right
Nordstrand and Kokko worked yesterday. Would have been interesting to see how Kokko would go if either Hoole or Nabbout provided service. They were both very, very ordinary yesterday.
Not having a back up forward for both Kokko and Nordstrand on the bench was extremely poor management.
Thought Kanta looked ok. Not great, but ok.
Hoole's inability to play a simple pass to Nordstrand cost us dearly. You should have seen the look on Gombau's face. Priceless
We gave them to much room in our back third
We forgot to come back onto the field after half time
Best for me: Johnny K, Jackson, Nordstrand and Kokko. Ugar had good patches too.

[GazFish35]

we seem to have a habit as playing as good or as bad as the opposition.

I thought Tomislav looked decent for his first game, clearly some communication issues, but a solid start...... still, I hope Duncan is back, we need the communication to be sorted

[Nou Camp]

geez we were so bad but still a lot better than CCM
last 30 mins was all jets
how we didn't score is beyond me
nabbout where has he gone??? hes a real confidence player few bad games now is surely playing on his mind
watched him in a youth game here after he got dropped by MVC and he was by far the worst one on the field

[WolfMan]

Agree with most, Mullen was an absolute liability yesterday. Looking forward to not renewing his contract.

[Hunter403]

Interested observer. He was amazed that we didn't win it. No, not the ugly bloke in the hat.
1403

[Jeterpool]

Interested observer. He was amazed that we didn't win it. No, not the ugly bloke in the hat.
1403

Hope he was there in a squad assessment capacity.

[Jeterpool]

How do people think Nabbout would go centrally as the point striker?

lets diregard filling his spot for now, just interested in people's thoughts

[The Dunster]

I'd say the Jets season is over now regardless of what happens against Brisbane. Not consistent enough for finals football and don't deserve to be there either.
The game was terrible to watch as was the result.

[steve136]

Really appreciated going to a game and being thoroughly entertained throughout. Even a bit of excitement in the crowd was good signs for the future

What game were you at yesterday?

[The Dunster]

How do people think Nabbout would go centrally as the point striker?

lets diregard filling his spot for now, just interested in people's thoughts

Pretty good. I could see him doing Taggart like things given the chance. His finishing is generally good and he can hammer a shot from outside the box as well.
Not sure if he has the engines to press defenders hard for a full game.

[MFKS]

Which of the players do you blame for the tactical setup at corners? Or the team ethos to jockey for that matter?

Or, wait.... you're not actually saying this might be..... part of Jones' job????

Yes these are both issues for Jones to address

We have both had problems with them for years.
We have stood off in defence for years

Sydney FC success based on pressing will see rival sides play catch up this coming off season so we should be sorting this

As for defending corners for years we have put all players in our box. Jones has at least put Raheem Sterling 40yards from goal which is a start. But yes needs more addressing on how we deal with corners. Far too often we put it out for another or hoof it to know one. There is no ****ing plan really on keeping possession from defending a corner

[Jetmaster]

Two fixable things we need to address....first touch; poor across the field and stops us zipping the passes around. Even the Mariners can do that at times.
And first time shooting....nobody does it and if they do it's usually a shocker.

[evolution]

And first time shooting....nobody does it and if they do it's usually a shocker.

Yep, this was noticeable yesterday when Nobby was less than meter from goal with Fizzo spreadeagled in front of him... and he decided to pass it.

Took my girlfriend who is not from a football background to the game and she asked several times why they don't just try having a shot? I said to her we ask that same question every week season after season... :sigh:

[MonkeyKplunk]

Hoole was at his usual best. Makes a complete balls-up of nearly every play, and when you think he's just made a brilliant run he tries to fire it THROUGH a defender instead of laying it off the man who is completely open and screaming for the ball.
Hoole makes that pass to Noddy, Noddy one on one with the keeper. 2-1 up easily.

Kid needs to have a long hard look at himself and his playing future, because playing like crap for 3 games, and then having a blinder is far too inconsistent for the majority of leagues Worldwide. At this point he would struggle to make an NPL side with that kind of inconsistent play. Maybe some time back in some lower leagues might teach him how to play with heart for the jersey again?

Kokko and Noddy looked good together till they both broke down.
Jackson and Johhny K worked far better together at the back than I thought they would. Surely both should easily push Mullen out of the squad for next weekend?

[The Dunster]

Took my girlfriend who is not from a football background to the game

Are you still together ? If so you should probably get married as not many women would show that sort of commitment.

[parksey]

Meanwhile Jones dropped this pearl of wisdom in the post match presser:

“You need to be effective,” Jones said. “If you are a defender, you need to make sure we have a clean sheet, and if you are an attacker, you need to score goals. It comes done to that now."

Could work.

[halo se7en]

Meanwhile Jones dropped this pearl of wisdom in the post match presser:

“You need to be effective,” Jones said. “If you are a defender, you need to make sure we have a clean sheet, and if you are an attacker, you need to score goals. It comes done to that now."

Could work.

Just now? Shouldn't that have been the aim from game 1? **** me.

[lquiquer]

Meanwhile Jones dropped this pearl of wisdom in the post match presser:

“You need to be effective,” Jones said. “If you are a defender, you need to make sure we have a clean sheet, and if you are an attacker, you need to score goals. It comes done to that now."

Could work.

Mark Albert Einstein Jones..... FMD

[The Dunster]

Meanwhile Jones dropped this pearl of wisdom in the post match presser:

“You need to be effective,” Jones said. “If you are a defender, you need to make sure we have a clean sheet, and if you are an attacker, you need to score goals. It comes done to that now."

Could work.

Hard to imagine anyone 30 years ago coming up with such insights into the game. We have certainly come a long way.

[Jeterpool]

Meanwhile Jones dropped this pearl of wisdom in the post match presser:

“You need to be effective,” Jones said. “If you are a defender, you need to make sure we have a clean sheet, and if you are an attacker, you need to score goals. It comes done to that now."

Could work.

Well, we can now safely assume he's read the back of the book.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51i5J8mGXpL.jpg

[StannyCFCJET]

Meanwhile Jones dropped this pearl of wisdom in the post match presser:

“You need to be effective,” Jones said. “If you are a defender, you need to make sure we have a clean sheet, and if you are an attacker, you need to score goals. It comes done to that now."

Could work.

Well how about Mr Jones makes attacking subs for once or have players on the bench that will change the game instead of ****ing Kanta

[StannyCFCJET]

Seriously though he is starting to talk crap just like Miller did without the technical bullshit. Just waiting for the moving forward crap.

[Jeterpool]

Well how about Mr Jones makes attacking subs for once or have players on the bench that will change the game instead of ****ing Kanta

I thought Kanta moved the ball better than Poljak when he came on. His introduction was about when the Jets started regaining the dominance.

But the bench selection I 100% agree with. Someone rightly pointed out that we have 2 strikers who either haven't played recently or don't last the 90 - so why not have a striker on the bench.

[StannyCFCJET]

I thought Kanta moved the ball better than Poljak when he came on. His introduction was about when the Jets started regaining the dominance.

But the bench selection I 100% agree with. Someone rightly pointed out that we have 2 strikers who either haven't played recently or don't last the 90 - so why not have a striker on the bench.

Poijak keeps getting subbed when he doesnt look tired and he wins the ball back a fair bit. I watched him sit down on the bench and he looked pissed off. Tossed he socks and boots away and didnt look happy rest of the half.

Ill agree that Kanta did ok which was a surprise, but were trying to make the finals so Kanta is not someone you bring on when you want to win a game to make the finals

[Nou Camp]

Seriously though he is starting to talk crap just like Miller did without the technical bullshit. Just waiting for the moving forward crap.

actually thought kanta played really well considering he hasn't played for a while
there was one really good dink over the defensive line to nabbout which he didn't pull (not sure how) and he would've been one on one with the keeper

[StannyCFCJET]

actually thought kanta played really well considering he hasn't played for a while
there was one really good dink over the defensive line to nabbout which he didn't pull (not sure how) and he would've been one on one with the keeper

He did ok granted but he's not a player thats gonna help us make finals

[Jeterpool]

He did ok granted but he's not a player thats gonna help us make finals

Nor are the any of them, playing the way they are. We're 7th.

[StannyCFCJET]

Nor are the any of them, playing the way they are. We're 7th.

Forever 7th but yep we need an increase of quality in the pre-season Damm you Dimi

[plague]

Hard to imagine anyone 30 years ago coming up with such insights into the game. We have certainly come a long way.

Analytics brah.

[plague]

Meanwhile Jones dropped this pearl of wisdom in the post match presser:

“You need to be effective,” Jones said. “If you are a defender, you need to make sure we have a clean sheet, and if you are an attacker, you need to score goals. It comes done to that now."

Could work.

He just sits at training scratching his head every time a midfielder is on the ball.
"YOURE NOT ATTACKING OR DEFENDING YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!!!!!!"

[StannyCFCJET]

He just sits at training scratching his head every time a midfielder is on the ball.
"YOURE NOT ATTACKING OR DEFENDING YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!!!!!!"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Thats Gold :thumbsup:

[skullboy]

Hard to imagine anyone 30 years ago coming up with such insights into the game. We have certainly come a long way.

I had a coach in juniors at Jaffas who was of Yugoslav extraction (back in the day) whose halftime talk invariably ended with:

"You score more goals you win bloody!"

much more concise. And insightful.

[Frodo]

I feel like as a playing group the Jets fear the Marinators rather than revel in the challenge of a local derby. Every time we play them we become timid and can't get the ball under control. Jones either needs to put the fear of Griff into them and get them biting from the get go, or switch off the entire thing and just play the game like it's against a top four side. I swear if we just hid the table from this team and told them we were playing the 2nd place team every week we would win the league. Definite lack of confidence within this team starting to bleed through.

Kokko and Clut can point to the fact the coach doesn't believe in them but Hoole and Nabbout have no excuse. They have scored goals all year against better sides, they get picked every week no matter what. They have no excuse for being timid.


Also, i didn't like Nobby in behind the striker. In attack it was good but i thought it weakened us in the middle as a result. If we want all out attack then yes, but if we want control of midfield than i'd say no. Just my illegitimate 2 cents worth.

#Jonesneedstomoveforward
#Foldtheclub
#Whereismyjetshapedhat

[MFKS]

Well how about Mr Jones makes attacking subs for once or have players on the bench that will change the game instead of ****ing Kantawhat the **** you talking about??

The hooking of Poljak and the bringing on of Kanta saw the Jets actually get control of the midfield and get into the game

Otherthan about the 90th min we had the entire run of the game in the time Kanta came on

His substitution actually was attacking

Problem was the halfwits on the park didnt take advantage of it

We score a goal or two in the last 30 mins which we should have then the Kanta subis the tactical masterstroke that won us the game


You dont need strikers on the bench to change games big man
A tweak in midfield generally gets you on top if you get it right

[StannyCFCJET]

what the **** you talking about??

The hooking of Poljak and the bringing on of Kanta saw the Jets actually get control of the midfield and get into the game

Otherthan about the 90th min we had the entire run of the game in the time Kanta came on

His substitution actually was attacking

Problem was the halfwits on the park didnt take advantage of it

We score a goal or two in the last 30 mins which we should have then the Kanta subis the tactical masterstroke that won us the game


You dont need strikers on the bench to change games big man
A tweak in midfield generally gets you on top if you get it right

Kanta an attacking sub? Now ive heard everything. We had Clut on the bench as the only attacking option and two strikers starting that couldnt play 90 mins