16/17 HAL Round 23 | Melbourne City vNewcastle Jets | Sat 18th Mar 2017 7:50pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 16/17 Round 23 Preview - Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 20 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 9, City Wins - 8, Drawn - 3


In Newcastle – 11 matches.
Jets Wins - 7, City Wins - 3, Drawn - 1
In Melbourne - 9 matches
Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 5, Drawn - 2

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9494
Average Away A-League Crowd - 7002

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 31, City - 37
In Melbourne -
Jets – 12, City - 20

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 10, City - 10

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 60 (59 yellow, 1 red), City 33 (31 yellow, 2 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - LDLDL (2 points from last 15)
City - LDWLW (7 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Andrew Nabbout (8)
City – Bruno Fornaroli (13)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (Nabbout 14', Nabbout 52') - Melbourne City 1 (Fornaroli 69' pen) at Coffs International Stadium, A-League, Round 17, Season 2016/17

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2016/17 Round 17

Newcastle JetsMelbourne City
Jack DuncanDean Bouzanis
Jason HoffmanIvan Franjic
Lachlan JacksonMichael Jakobsen
Nigel BoogaardOsama Malik
Daniel MullenJoshua Rose
Mateo PoljakNeil Kilkenny
Steven UgarkovicLuke Brattan
Ma LeileiTim Cahill
Andrew HooleBruce Kamau
Andrew NabboutBruno Fornaroli
Morten NordstrandNicolas Colazo



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015 & Jets 0 - City 4 (Mooy 43', Fornaroli 56', Mooy 59', Fornaroli 62') at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 10, 13/12/15

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
City - Bruno Fornaroli (6)



2016/17 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubstitute AppearancesSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed - Second BookableStraight Red
2Daniel Mullen12111199400100
3Jason Hoffman212012171710210
4Nigel Boogaard161511135421500
5Ben Kantarovski963454101000
6Steven Ugarkovic201913166610600
7Andrew Hoole212101187352600
8Mateo Poljak211656147010100
9Aleksandr Kokko1156541310100
10Wayne Brown181534132221500
11Labinot Haliti312011600000
12Andy Brennan21119500000
12Harrison Sawyer30304700100
13Ivan Vujica1091377500100
15Andrew Nabbout191816153884300
16Nick Cowburn131121103900000
18Ma Leilei1376667912500
19Morten Nordstrand1814410122232200
20Jack Duncan202000180000000
22Lachlan Jackson12111196700200
23Devante Clut18711668912000
24Kristian Brymora1010600000
26Iain Fyfe330220500100
28John Koutroumbis191091101000400



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Mark Jones - 1 win, Michael Valkanis - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Mark Jones - 2 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 50% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Melbourne City Coach Record – Michael Valkanis 0% win ratio (0 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss)



TALKING POINTS:


General

There has never been a scoreless result between these two teams, and only one match with fewer than 2 goals.
The average goals per match in this fixture is over 3.
Andrew Nabbout and Bruno Fornaroli are the only players to have scored in this fixture this season. They've scored 3 goals each.
The Jets haven't conceded a first half goal in the last 4 matches.
Newcastle have won 5 times in 23 matches during March.



Players

Bruno Fornaroli has scored 6 goals in the last 4 fixtures between the two clubs. He has scored City's last 5 goals in this fixture.
Mateo Poljak is closing in on a milestone 50 matches for the Jets. This week could be his 48th appearance.
Jason Hoffman became the first Jets player to be dismissed this season.
Last weekend was the first match in which Nigel Boogaard made an appearance for the Jets without the captain's armband.
The penalty converted by Andrew Nabbout was just the second penalty the Jets have received this season.



Newcastle Jets

Clayton Zane, who will lead the team this week in Mark Jones' absence, has a 100% win record against City - a 1-0 win thanks to Adam Taggart.
The Jets haven't scored the first goal away from home all season.
Newcastle has lost it's last 3 away fixtures and have taken 7 from a possible 30 points on the road this season.
Six players have been sent off while wearing the captain's armband - Paul Okon, Ljubo Milicevic, Jobe Wheelhouse, Kew Jaliens, Nigel Boogaard (x4) and Jason Hoffman.
Newcastle are 14 matches without a clean sheet on the road. The last was the 1-0 win against the Mariners in Gosford last season.



Melbourne City

City have been kept scoreless just once this season - a Round 5 clash in Brisbane.

[MFKS]

Gee Boogaard has only been sent off 4 times playing for us

Seems like more

Maybe we too harsh on him Plague

[plague]

Gee Boogaard has only been sent off 4 times playing for us

Seems like more

Maybe we too harsh on him Plague

Well he does need to be on the park at some stage to give away all those penalties.

[plague]

Also: doomed.
Flogged.
Etc etc.


Blokes on here will start muttering the phrase "mathematically possible".

Meanwhile the Knights retake the city without a ****ing whimper from the Sockah boiz.

[Jetmaster]

Will win this, then beat Wello ensuring a result against Wanderers gets us in the six. We will lose and have a "must win" against the Gypos, which we will also lose.
A fighting point against the Smurfs will not be enough.

Will be sooooo Jets.

[belchardo]

Saturday, prime time, playing another perennial underachiever. get your money on a loss people!

[Local Rules]

But it will be a ruthless loss

[StannyCFCJET]

Were not the favorites or expected to get a result = we have a chance of drawing this game

[belchardo]

Were not the favorites or expected to get a result = we have a chance of drawing this game

but it's "must win", so we are guaranteed to put in a listless first 25 minutes and be 2 down by half time.

[Bon]

but it's "must win", so we are guaranteed to put in a listless first 25 minutes and be 2 down by half time.

Only 2?
Such an optimist, belch...

[MFKS]

You blokes are all optimists hoping for a quick kill by Heart

I backing we turn up grab the lead
Things looking good

Boogaard gives away a pen / gets sent and the game slowly slips away from us

This is the Jets FFS it a slow painful suffering

[hawk]

You blokes are all optimists hoping for a quick kill by Heart

I backing we turn up grab the lead
Things looking good

Boogaard gives away a pen / gets sent and the game slowly slips away from us

This is the Jets FFS it a slow painful suffering

Are you still bothering to suffer? :rof: Get over it and drink in the amber mediocraty

[Grimario]

Some blokes in, some blokes out.

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/selections-jets-preliminary-squad-vs-city/1pll18e5hckgb1pu71l5isqiye


Preliminary Newcastle Jets Squad vs. Melbourne City: 2. Daniel MULLEN, 4. Nigel BOOGAARD (C), 5. Ben KANTAROVSKI, 6. Steven UGARKOVIC, 7. Andrew HOOLE, 8. Mateo POLJAK, 9. Aleksandr KOKKO, 10. Wayne BROWN, 12. Harrison SAWYER, 13. Ivan VUJICA, 15. Andrew NABBOUT, 18. MA Leilei, 19. Morten NORDSTRAND, 20. Jack DUNCAN (Gk), 22. Lachlan JACKSON, 28. John KOUTROUMBIS, 29. Joel ALLWRIGHT, 50. Tomislav ARCABA (Gk)
**two to be omitted**
Ins: 12. Harrison SAWYER (promoted) 13. Ivan VUJICA (promoted), 20. JACK DUNCAN (Gk) (returns from injury), 29. Joel ALLWRIGHT (promoted)
Outs: 3. Jason HOFFMAN (suspended - 1 week), 30. Pierce CLARK (Gk) (omitted
Unavailable: 1. Ben KENNEDY (Gk) (achilles - season), 16. Nicholas COWBURN (Australian Development Squad Duty - Spain), 21. Daniel ALESSI (knee - season)

[turbojetfireV8]

Apparently we only need three wins from five games, what could possibly go wrong... http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4535211/jones-targets-three-wins-to-make-finals/?cs=3398

And we still want Hoole to change his mind and tell us he loves us and he's gonna stay... http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4535231/jets-hoping-hoole-will-show-staying-power/?cs=306

[Jeterpool]

3 wins in 5 after achieving 5 in 22...hmmm

[leftrightout]

3 wins in 5 after achieving 5 in 22...hmmm

This is why i hate the semi final system... a team that has won 5 of 22 games shouldn't be close to making the semi finals.
I know its to keep the interest in the comp as there is no relegation but its ridiculous!
If you want to play semi's make it top 4.

[WolfMan]

This is why i hate the semi final system... a team that has won 5 of 22 games shouldn't be close to making the semi finals.
I know its to keep the interest in the comp as there is no relegation but its ridiculous!
If you want to play semi's make it top 4.

100%. Any comp where more than half of the participants make a finals series is ridiculous. Rewarding mediocrity - and we STILL can't even hit that level lol

[Jeterpool]

This is why i hate the semi final system... a team that has won 5 of 22 games shouldn't be close to making the semi finals.
I know its to keep the interest in the comp as there is no relegation but its ridiculous!
If you want to play semi's make it top 4.

Exactly. There could still be 3 rounds of finals as well.

1v2 and 3v4 ==> loser 1v2 against winner 3v4 ==> grand final

[lquiquer]

3 wins in 5 after achieving 5 in 22...hmmm

with 4 away games ...... he is dreaming...:violin:

[Jeterpool]

with 4 away games ...... he is dreaming...:violin:

I'll say, it will be a fantastic achievement for the squad to do this and go against the general form of the team for the past few years.

[Grimario]

This is why i hate the semi final system... a team that has won 5 of 22 games shouldn't be close to making the semi finals.
I know its to keep the interest in the comp as there is no relegation but its ridiculous!
If you want to play semi's make it top 4.

Turns out that is complete BS though. I will see if I can dig it up but the theory is bogus and crowd numbers die off halfway through the season. Something to do with "oh ****, we have to play that team a third time?" syndrome.

[halo se7en]

Turns out that is complete BS though. I will see if I can dig it up but the theory is bogus and crowd numbers die off halfway through the season. Something to do with "oh ****, we have to play that team a third time?" syndrome.

I don't know about stats but I can say personally I'd lose interest in our comp after the first month if it was first past the post. Sydney had this season won within weeks. I don't understand how people can't see the value in a finals system. And which team in the last 10/11 seasons didn't deserve to win the title because some shit team who scraped into 6th won it instead?

[hawk]

I don't know about stats but I can say personally I'd lose interest in our comp after the first month if it was first past the post. Sydney had this season won within weeks.

agree


I don't understand how people can't see the value in a finals system. And which team in the last 10/11 seasons didn't deserve to win the title because some shit team who scraped into 6th won it instead?

One day some team from 5 or 6 will do it and it will be one of the big4.

and for this game we'll probs play ok and get pipped again

[Jetmaster]

It will change only when a lower club does it. If Sydney FC are pipped this season by Wanderers or Perth all hell will break loose.

[The Dunster]

http://www.ann7.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/07/soccer-ball-pic-getty.jpg

Play this bloke and leave Mullen on the bench - we can't lose.

[hawk]

beath happens

[belchardo]

12 minutes. **** me.

[hawk]

At least Jonny K made flag beater work for that or was it Cowb?

[lquiquer]

12 minutes. **** me.

U would think Jackson would be on Timmy...???

[MFKS]

These ****s are just ****ed

Seriously how good was it last weekend not subjecting yourself to this shower of shite??

The off season can not come quick enough to bring us peace again

These players are just as weak as piss

You can bag Jones the GypoCEO or the Chinese Lightsalesman all you like but the players are cowards who just hate us all

[steve136]

Almost nostalgic for the days when some of you blokes thought we were improving and moving forward. We're awful to watch this season.

Also Nabbout isn't good.

[belchardo]

If this is how we play after a week off, thank god we won't have a week off in the finals.

[steve136]

These ****s are just ****ed

Seriously how good was it last weekend not subjecting yourself to this shower of shite??

The off season can not come quick enough to bring us peace again

These players are just as weak as piss

You can bag Jones the GypoCEO or the Chinese Lightsalesman all you like but the players are cowards who just hate us all

Pretty sure it's combination of Jones and the Gypo CEO and the Chinese Tinkler and the players all hating us equally.

[belchardo]

Seriously, do we have 11 on the field? We seem about 4 players short in the midfield.

[steve136]

Seriously, do we have 11 on the field? We seem about 4 players short in the midfield.

Our guys don't even want to win the ball back. They're just concerned with standing in roughly the area they're supposed to be in so it's someone else's problem.

[belchardo]

Thought boogs was going to see red then. Good calm leadership from the big man.

[MFKS]

It just amazing how cheating ****s like Fornaroli and Berisha get away with their shit week in week out.

Don't these refs notice the grubby shit on video ??

[belchardo]

Our guys don't even want to win the ball back. They're just concerned with standing in roughly the area they're supposed to be in so it's someone else's problem.

I think I've figured it out - zane told them not to make any mistakes in possession tonight so they've decided the easiest way to achieve this is to never have the ball.

[steve136]

I think I've figured it out - zane told them not to make any mistakes in possession tonight so they've decided the easiest way to achieve this is to never have the ball.

Next level thinking.

It must be tough for Johnny K to be surrounded by 10 chumps out there.

[StannyCFCJET]

Glad im not watching this rubbish

[MFKS]

Next level thinking.

It must be tough for Johnny K to be surrounded by 10 chumps out there.

Case in point Boogaard.

Gets played in beautifully

Touch turn shoot celebrate with your fans etc

No just let it roll over your foot for a goal kick

Next level thinking

FMD

[belchardo]

Case in point Boogaard.

Gets played in beautifully

Touch turn shoot celebrate with your fans etc

No just let it roll over your foot for a goal kick

Next level thinking

FMD

Not quite right memba, his thinking was "if I let this go out for a goal kick, the ball restarts on the 6 yard line. If I score a goal, it restarts on the half way line. Therefore, logically, I should let it go out for a goal kick as it will restart further from our goal."

[belchardo]

Great little sneaky achilles rake by jonny on timmy just then.

[MFKS]

Not quite right memba, his thinking was "if I let this go out for a goal kick, the ball restarts on the 6 yard line. If I score a goal, it restarts on the half way line. Therefore, logically, I should let it go out for a goal kick as it will restart further from our goal."

Thats implying our blokes actually think

I backing we just naturally shit and no level of thinking is required

[belchardo]

I didn't realise fernando had died from that knee injury - I mean that can be the only reason the bench are all wearing memorial shirts yeah?

[MFKS]

Heart are actually quite exploitable here

Problem is that we just aren't good enough to exploit them

[The Dunster]

Geez this Jets squad are piss weak. City are very poor defensively and yet the Jets still can't score.

[Jetmaster]

Where is the desperation.....where is the fight?

[boz-monaut]

it appears highly unlikely that we wil come back from 2-0 down on account of us being totally ****ing rubbish

[belchardo]

Where is the desperation.....where is the fight?

They save that for when they are down to the last jar of hair gel.

I think I've seen enough of jonny k at left back to know it's not a position for him.

[steve136]

They save that for when they are down to the last jar of hair gel.

I think I've seen enough of jonny k at left back to know it's not a position for him.

A shame too that Jones keeps putting him there, because he's the only guy at this club that can actually play.

[MFKS]

Hopefully some Euro club signs Raheem Sterling.

When they do can they take the rest of these ****s with him ??

[steve136]

Nabbout reminds me a lot of Allivodic. We all thought he was good after a month, but then it quickly became apparent that he was actually hopeless. At least Allivodic had a good workrate.

[MFKS]

That pen is all Boogaard s fault

Mullen had no confidence in him what so ever so took one for the skip

Saved me and Plague tearing into Boogaard again

[steve136]

Wow Mullen f*cking up again at RB. NONE of us could have seen that happening again.

[belchardo]

"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if boogard don't get cha, mullen must"

[belchardo]

This is clearly a team that didn't believe they could make the finals.

[hawk]

Kanta is finished. Hangem high or npl

[belchardo]

Ahahahahahahahahaha. **** we are shit.

[hawk]

Jets have money on forna for golden boot. They'll cleanup

[The Dunster]

Somebody will have to take the fall for this season and though he's not solely responsible it's hard to imagine Mark Jones serving out his contract with the club.
Player wise we have nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Strap yourself in lads for another 7 seasons of shit.

[MFKS]

**** me

Heart ain't playing this good

[sammydog]

Kanta is finished. Hangem high or npl

Only Kanta?

[hawk]

Only Kanta?

nah, theres a few more

[sammydog]

Somebody will have to take the fall for this season and though he's not solely responsible it's hard to imagine Mark Jones serving out his contract with the club.
Player wise we have nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Strap yourself in lads for another 7 seasons of shit.

The club said before they employed Jones, that the manager would not be able to use the squad as an excuse. I think there is no doubt its been a significant contributor to our season, but it will be interesting to see how much blame get put on Jones shoulders.

[StannyCFCJET]

The club said before they employed Jones, that the manager would not be able to use the squad as an excuse. I think there is no doubt its been a significant contributor to our season, but it will be interesting to see how much blame get put on Jones shoulders.

All Jones has done is use excuses all season

[belchardo]

Kanta is finished. Hangem high or npl

Anybody else catch harper and hill talking about jonny? Think they said he would be playing here next year and playing as a 6, so you could be right about kanta.

[Jetmaster]

Hang in there boys....three from four and we're there.

[MFKS]

The club said before they employed Jones, that the manager would not be able to use the squad as an excuse. I think there is no doubt its been a significant contributor to our season, but it will be interesting to see how much blame get put on Jones shoulders.

We could have Mourinho
We could have Conte
We could have Guardiola

No **** can turn this shite into a competent side

These players are just shit.

No heart
No fight
No ability

Hopefully the Chinese Lightsalesman​ opens the purse strings and gives our manager next season the opportunity to coach competent players

[steve136]

We could have Mourinho
We could have Conte
We could have Guardiola

No **** can turn this shite into a competent side

These players are just shit.

No heart
No fight
No ability

Hopefully the Chinese Lightsalesman​ opens the purse strings and gives our manager next season the opportunity to coach competent players

The players being shit and the manager being shit are not mutually exclusive. They've both proven time and time again this season at certain points that they're both inept.

[Grimario]

We could have Mourinho
We could have Conte
We could have Guardiola

No **** can turn this shite into a competent side

These players are just shit.

No heart
No fight
No ability

Hopefully the Chinese Lightsalesman​ opens the purse strings and gives our manager next season the opportunity to coach competent players

So you are essentially saying that manager's are completely pointless and it's entirely the players who are to blame? The players are the ones choosing to play out of position, they players are the ones picking themselves when they are in horrendous form, the players are the ones who are unable to motivate themselves and Jones is completely blameless?

Hopefully Mr Lee punts Jones far into the ocean to never be seen again.

Better squad than last season, Jones is a massive failure.

[steve136]

So you are essentially saying that manager's are completely pointless and it's entirely the players who are to blame? The players are the ones choosing to play out of position, they players are the ones picking themselves when they are in horrendous form, the players are the ones who are unable to motivate themselves and Jones is completely blameless?

Hopefully Mr Lee punts Jones far into the ocean to never be seen again.

Better squad than last season, Jones is a massive failure.

Spot on. It also hasn't been the players waiting until the 80th minute to make changes when the game clearly called for them, or the players choosing to play with no strikers on the bench some weeks, or the players making defensive substitutions when we're chasing the game etc.

[lquiquer]

I am officially plastic..... and will be unless mr Lee get rid of 90% of squad and spend few $$$ millions.... i have had it ...

[hawk]

We could have Mourinho
We could have Conte
We could have Guardiola

No **** can turn this shite into a competent side

These players are just shit.

No heart
No fight
No ability

Hopefully the Chinese Lightsalesman​ opens the purse strings and gives our manager next season the opportunity to coach competent players

Can you address this with the players in person and sort it out. I'd like to watch this

[Jeterpool]

I can sense another MFKS banner for last home game

[sammydog]

We could have Mourinho
We could have Conte
We could have Guardiola

No **** can turn this shite into a competent side

These players are just shit.

No heart
No fight
No ability

Hopefully the Chinese Lightsalesman​ opens the purse strings and gives our manager next season the opportunity to coach competent players

I agree that the squad is a big part of the problem, but Jones has done nothing with his management to suggest he should be here next season either.

[matty]

We went all that way four nothing

[Jeterpool]

We really haven't copped a flogging this year. Had to happen eventually

[lquiquer]

I can sense another MFKS banner for last home game

Why bother.... well lets say I won't be there to hold it this time... I'm done they can just **** off

[MFKS]

So you are essentially saying that manager's are completely pointless and it's entirely the players who are to blame? The players are the ones choosing to play out of position, they players are the ones picking themselves when they are in horrendous form, the players are the ones who are unable to motivate themselves and Jones is completely blameless?

Hopefully Mr Lee punts Jones far into the ocean to never be seen again.

Better squad than last season, Jones is a massive failure.

Disagree with the better squad this season

LeakyG better than the 400options at left back
Devonhead better than Hoole
Milos better than Kokko
Leonardo better than Brown
Birraz better than Duncan

Your having a laugh if you think this squad is good

[MFKS]

I can sense another MFKS banner for last home game

Who's the target??

The Chinese Lightsalesman??
The players who can't pass to their teammates, show no desperation and couldn't give a **** about their fans??
The Gypo CEO??
Jones??

Who??

[furns]

For my thoughts - please read twitter timeline @jetstreamnewy
I will admit to steadily drinking rum & cokes throughout the game haha

[lquiquer]

Tweet of the night:
@_ascarcella: This makes the question "is priority access to finals tickets important to you?" in the @NewcastleJetsFC survey even funnier tbh. #MCYvNEW

[furns]

Brilliant

[halo se7en]

So are some of you still "enjoying jets matches more than you have in years?" Jones needs to go now so the new guy has time to not resign our off contract players.

[The Dunster]

So are some of you still "enjoying jets matches more than you have in years?" Jones needs to go now so the new guy has time to not resign our off contract players.

It's still better than the style of shit Miller and Stubbins was serving us every week. We conceded four today but at least we didn't concede 7 in a home game while parking the bus.
If the club was serious we'd be signing guys like Hoole and Nabbout only as back-ups / Bench players not as starters / the ones we rely on to win games.

Do I think Jones should get the boot - probably
Do I think another manager could get better results from this team - maybe but no chance this lot would ever be top 4 or challenging for a title.
Do I think the owner needs to start spending big dollars - Absolutely. If he doesn't it's pointless replacing Jones.

[furns]

Stubbins = rubbish
At least with Miller we were passionate
In this fixture, we showed zero intensity
Not good enough

[Jeterpool]

It's still better than the style of shit Miller and Stubbins was serving us every week. We conceded four today but at least we didn't concede 7 in a home game while parking the bus.
If the club was serious we'd be signing guys like Hoole and Nabbout only as back-ups / Bench players not as starters / the ones we rely on to win games.

Do I think Jones should get the boot - probably
Do I think another manager could get better results from this team - maybe but no chance this lot would ever be top 4 or challenging for a title.
Do I think the owner needs to start spending big dollars - Absolutely. If he doesn't it's pointless replacing Jones.

We're at the point with the owner where he needs to decide if he's going to back Jones with cash.

If he doesn't trust Jones to spend it wisely then he's the wrong coach and he needs to go out and find the manager who he is happy to allow spend money to improve the squad.

[Couscous]

I'm deeply disappointed.

[ForeverRed]

I'm not sure what they see in brown to sign him for another two years, I can't remember any memorable games from him

[Grimario]

I'm not sure what they see in brown to sign him for another two years, I can't remember any memorable games from him

Leaving at half time to fly home was pretty memorable.

[Jetmaster]

Leaving at half time to fly home was pretty memorable.

And to be frank...mentally his season ended there. He still talks about "late nights". Now kudos for being an active dad and all that, but when you are a professional athlete you have a duty to keeping in peak condition.

[MFKS]

And to be frank...mentally his season ended there. He still talks about "late nights". Now kudos for being an active dad and all that, but when you are a professional athlete you have a duty to keeping in peak condition.

Did his season end there or Rd1??

He scored the chip in the FFA Cup v Victory and got us excited

Then in Rd1 he followed it up with a great strike

People are starting to think we have a really good signing. The club give him a 2 year extension and since then he has done **** all.

Based on his overall performance this season as a foreigner you could make a case he doesn't even deserve a second year at all

To me he has been a poor signing when he isn't head and shoulders a better player than the shit we have already

[WolfMan]

Did his season end there or Rd1??

He scored the chip in the FFA Cup v Victory and got us excited

Then in Rd1 he followed it up with a great strike

People are starting to think we have a really good signing. The club give him a 2 year extension and since then he has done **** all.

Based on his overall performance this season as a foreigner you could make a case he doesn't even deserve a second year at all

To me he has been a poor signing when he isn't head and shoulders a better player than the shit we have already

I raised doubts about extending his contract at the time. Unfortunately, it appears we were right to be skeptical. Going to be really hard to get rid of an under-performing player with another year on his contract.

[plague]

when you are a professional athlete you have a duty to keeping in peak condition.

I do apologise boys I was out on a solid bender last night and missed the fun but then I wake up to this quote and see we are all remaining reasonable and calm.

[The Dunster]

Your only duty as a professional athlete is to make money - and Brown is doing that very well with minimum effort. No fitness training required.

[MFKS]

I raised doubts about extending his contract at the time. Unfortunately, it appears we were right to be skeptical. Going to be really hard to get rid of an under-performing player with another year on his contract.

Doesn't he have two more years??

I thought we gave him 2 more on to of this year

[MFKS]

Your only duty as a professional athlete is to make money

And our club is best in the league for finding useless ****ers leeching and exploiting the clubs funds in the salary cap

FFS we have players who exploit the club better than a Pinay mail order bride could ever dream of ripping her new found love off

[WolfMan]

Doesn't he have two more years??

I thought we gave him 2 more on to of this year

I thought that as well. I think he had 18 months left on his contract and was signed on for another year after Round 1. So 3 seasons total as opposed to the 2 originally? I'll have a look for the article


In a major boost for the Jets as they prepare to face Melbourne City, the former Fulham trainee revealed he will be at Newcastle for another two years, having only joined months ago.

You're correct. Anyway, it was a stupid, short-sighted decision at any rate. Par for the course, eh?

[Frodo]

Disagree with the better squad this season

LeakyG better than the 400options at left back
Devonhead better than Hoole
Milos better than Kokko
Leonardo better than Brown
Birraz better than Duncan

Your having a laugh if you think this squad is good

Leaky G was quality.
Devonhead was rubbish and disrupted the team with his inability to track back, or even jog faster than brick wall..
Milos was better than Kokko.
Leonardo was effing terrible but Brown doesn't even play for us anymore does he? I don't even remember what he looks like.
Birraz was better than Duncan but not better than BK,:popcorn:

[Wilso8948]

And to be frank...mentally his season ended there. He still talks about "late nights". Now kudos for being an active dad and all that, but when you are a professional athlete you have a duty to keeping in peak condition.
Are you serious? Wake up to yourself idiot

[cobra23]

Leaky G was quality.
Devonhead was rubbish and disrupted the team with his inability to track back, or even jog faster than brick wall..
Milos was better than Kokko.
Leonardo was effing terrible but Brown doesn't even play for us anymore does he? I don't even remember what he looks like.
Birraz was better than Duncan but not better than BK,:popcorn:

Disagree about Leonardo, I reckon if he had hoole and nabbout on either side of him a lot more goals would have happened. I thought Leo was football smart

[Jetmaster]

Are you serious? Wake up to yourself idiot

Not trying to be smart there (and the name calling isn't necessary btw) - Brown has been almost invisible since his baby came along. He himself has said he is having some late nights looking after it with his wife.

He is a professional sportsman paid to perform. I am suggesting he maybe sometimes fatigued and hence is not playing at 100%.

I'm not suggesting anything else.


On a more important note has anyone seen that the Wanderers are tearing the Phoenix a new one to book sixth spot?

[Jeterpool]

There were a number of things that were disappointing for coming from that performance.

Firstly, we set so deep defensively, particularly in the first half, that wwe allowed Melbourne free movement of the ball in our defensive third. The odd player would come out to apply some pressure, but generally the ball was stroked around by Melbourne freely.

Secondly, City set up on the counter very wide. Their wingers certainly had chalk on their boots and they had plently of space to operate in because we set up very narrow in defense - more-so on the left hand side.

Our players continually run away from each other, especially when we have it in midfield. Nobody was presenting for the ball, they all looked to run away. The resulting long pass would be cut out because there would be 3 players surrounding the ball applying pressure and their defense would pick up the ensuing wayward pass. Kanta and Brown were particularly guilty of this.

On Brown, I am now seeing what otehrs were talking about. I think we jumped too early offering him the additional year on his 2 year deal. I don't know what he offers on the ball. THere were a number of dead passes or balls that put us in isolated positions.

Those who are talking about his kid and presenting fit etc, I've got a daughter a few (maybe 2) weeks older than his new addition. Those parents on here know how hard the first 3 months are. Personally I forgot until just recently. If his boy is like my little girl, she's not sleeping at all during the day - 30 minutes at a time if we're lucky, most nights 2-4 hours straight. 3 nights last week she was up every hour. Like me, this isn't his first kid either. I have a job, but I also have a responsibility to my family. There's no difference in my duty to present in a fit state for work as he is required for his job. How he manages his life and fatherly duties will impact on his performances - but that's up to him and his employer.

Straight away the body language was off. The reaction to the second goal was disappointing as the teams just seemed to accept it. Everyone looked flat. Who knows what we've been working on over the 2 weeks previous.

And I felt for Kokko. Bloke is on a hiding to nothing. In saying that, I don't know wht we persist in signing big central strikers when we don't even try to play to their strength. Heskey, Trifunovic, Kokko - they've all struggled because our team a)can't cross to exploit their aerial advantage and b) can't retain the ball to build any pressure on the edge of the box or pass to their feet to let them use their strength.

I'm really tired of investing money, time and emotion into this team. Years and years of dross and fans will continue voting with their feet.

The point is coming where Lee needs to invest money in the squad outside the cap and he needs to decide do I back Jones to get the best of the players if I do? If the answer is no, then we needs a new manger.

TL-DR - I'm pissed off.

[StannyCFCJET]

There were a number of things that were disappointing for coming from that performance.

Firstly, we set so deep defensively, particularly in the first half, that wwe allowed Melbourne free movement of the ball in our defensive third. The odd player would come out to apply some pressure, but generally the ball was stroked around by Melbourne freely.

Secondly, City set up on the counter very wide. Their wingers certainly had chalk on their boots and they had plently of space to operate in because we set up very narrow in defense - more-so on the left hand side.

Our players continually run away from each other, especially when we have it in midfield. Nobody was presenting for the ball, they all looked to run away. The resulting long pass would be cut out because there would be 3 players surrounding the ball applying pressure and their defense would pick up the ensuing wayward pass. Kanta and Brown were particularly guilty of this.

On Brown, I am now seeing what otehrs were talking about. I think we jumped too early offering him the additional year on his 2 year deal. I don't know what he offers on the ball. THere were a number of dead passes or balls that put us in isolated positions.

Those who are talking about his kid and presenting fit etc, I've got a daughter a few (maybe 2) weeks older than his new addition. Those parents on here know how hard the first 3 months are. Personally I forgot until just recently. If his boy is like my little girl, she's not sleeping at all during the day - 30 minutes at a time if we're lucky, most nights 2-4 hours straight. 3 nights last week she was up every hour. Like me, this isn't his first kid either. I have a job, but I also have a responsibility to my family. There's no difference in my duty to present in a fit state for work as he is required for his job. How he manages his life and fatherly duties will impact on his performances - but that's up to him and his employer.

Straight away the body language was off. The reaction to the second goal was disappointing as the teams just seemed to accept it. Everyone looked flat. Who knows what we've been working on over the 2 weeks previous.

And I felt for Kokko. Bloke is on a hiding to nothing. In saying that, I don't know wht we persist in signing big central strikers when we don't even try to play to their strength. Heskey, Trifunovic, Kokko - they've all struggled because our team a)can't cross to exploit their aerial advantage and b) can't retain the ball to build any pressure on the edge of the box or pass to their feet to let them use their strength.

I'm really tired of investing money, time and emotion into this team. Years and years of dross and fans will continue voting with their feet.

The point is coming where Lee needs to invest money in the squad outside the cap and he needs to decide do I back Jones to get the best of the players if I do? If the answer is no, then we needs a new manger.

TL-DR - I'm pissed off.

Well said Jeterpool (feel your pain bigtime) but these are problems we've had for years. Every game Im yelling at players when we have the ball and at throw ins give him an option/Whos supporting. We always sign target man but are not prepared to play some one up top to support them. If we had played Heskey and Taggart/Ryan Griff together upfront from the off with Goodwin and Virgili on the flanks wipping balls in we'ed of made the finals easy. How can we sit deep/park the bus/play defensive yet still concede chances galore and often 2 or more goals as well (had the same problem last year.) As for Brown I asked some weeks back either on this forum or Facebook what has brown actually offered us since round 1 and got slated for it.

It's also criminal how pathetic our off the ball moment is both in attack and defense. No one passes and moves or makes intelligent runs in behind. Gk passes to centreback, other team pushes players forwards to press our backline, our midfield and wingers stand on or over the halfway line so we have two options Kick it long to nobody/an isolated Kokko or pass it back to Duncan and when we get the ball out players are standing still looking at each other and we either pass to someone who is marked (while ignoring or not looking at someone in some space) or kick it straight back to the other team. (this has been a problem since the GVE 2nd coming days).

If Mr Lee doesnt spend big this summer then IMO the Jets are finished cause well have another season like this or worse and I fear the long term fans myself included wont sign back up as members.


Sorry for jumbled post needed to rant

[plague]

I don't know wht we persist in signing big central strikers when we don't even try to play to their strength.

because we don't have any idea how the club wants to play.

case in point. Brisbane play a certain way.
Matt McKay is pretty important to that structure, a quick, mobile midfielder who always presents for the ball but understands his role and more importantly knows his limits.

he is getting older, so Roar just promote that Caletti kid who is the exact type of player, and the club keeps rolling.

Jets have no 'identity', and seemingly no one within the organisation who knows how to mould the group we have, or how to find players to implement a philosophy.

club is garbage, top to bottom.
Just sit it out til they get better then come back like the rest of us plan to.

[Jeterpool]

because we don't have any idea how the club wants to play.

case in point. Brisbane play a certain way.
Matt McKay is pretty important to that structure, a quick, mobile midfielder who always presents for the ball but understands his role and more importantly knows his limits.

he is getting older, so Roar just promote that Caletti kid who is the exact type of player, and the club keeps rolling.

Jets have no 'identity', and seemingly no one within the organisation who knows how to mould the group we have, or how to find players to implement a philosophy.

club is garbage, top to bottom.
Just sit it out til they get better then come back like the rest of us plan to.

Bang on.

Chopping and changing managers doesn't help the "identity" either.

[Jeterpool]

At the end of the day, this team is closer to the wodden spoon than it is the finals. People may point to the middle of the season when we had a "good run" and we suggest we "aren't a wooden spoon team" but the table doesn't lie.

I'm thinking we are definitely a wooden spoon shout because Adelaide (4 points behind) are coming home with a wet sail and we are just a point ahead of the gypos with a derby down the road to go in which anything can happen despite us not realy looking primed for the derbies this year.

[MonkeyKplunk]

Bang on.

Chopping and changing managers doesn't help the "identity" either.

Exactly.
Have a look at the last time we had an "identity" or a plan for the squad.
I guarantee it coincided with the last time we signed a Manager on for multiple seasons and DIDN'T undermine him at every turn.

When the best and biggest clubs in the World sign Managers on for minimum 3 year terms, with their KPI's pointing towards the WHOLE term not just one season, there's a goddamn reason.

[MonkeyKplunk]

At the end of the day, this team is closer to the wodden spoon than it is the finals. People may point to the middle of the season when we had a "good run" and we suggest we "aren't a wooden spoon team" but the table doesn't lie.

I'm thinking we are definitely a wooden spoon shout because Adelaide (4 points behind) are coming home with a wet sail and we are just a point ahead of the gypos with a derby down the road to go in which anything can happen despite us not realy looking primed for the derbies this year.

I'd have to agree 100% Jeterpool.

Look at the teams we've got to play
Nix are up and down. They play well on some days, and then get flogged on others. Sounds familiar?
Wanderers have been strong lately and always present a hard challenge away against us.
Gypos, well they've played some quality football since Okon took over the reigns. And the 3-2 loss against City very much showed that.
Sydney FC, well, only chance we have here is if they rest the entire squad ahead of the finals.

I'm tipping 1 win from the next 4. We'll be lucky to avoid a spoon again

[Wilso8948]

Not trying to be smart there (and the name calling isn't necessary btw) - Brown has been almost invisible since his baby came along. He himself has said he is having some late nights looking after it with his wife.

He is a professional sportsman paid to perform. I am suggesting he maybe sometimes fatigued and hence is not playing at 100%.

I'm not suggesting anything else.


On a more important note has anyone seen that the Wanderers are tearing the Phoenix a new one to book sixth spot?
Please. You suggested his "duty" is to keep in peak physical fitness and ridiculed him for being an active Dad. So in other words be a shit **** father/husband to perform for this half assed club?

[hawk]

Jets have no 'identity', and seemingly no one within the organisation who knows how to mould the group we have, or how to find players to implement a philosophy.



We cant even decide on permanent colours.

When oppo supports sing Who are ya? Who are ya? I cant even answer

[Wilso8948]

We cant even decide on permanent colours.

When oppo supports sing Who are ya? Who are ya? I cant even answer

We're the knights bra

[Roundball Enthusiast]

We cant even decide on permanent colours.

When oppo supports sing Who are ya? Who are ya? I cant even answer

I just reply with "Plastic" and throw my paper printed GA ticket at them, in the form of a paper plane, holding a paper wooden spoon.

[Retro Jet]

because we don't have any idea how the club wants to play.

case in point. Brisbane play a certain way.
Matt McKay is pretty important to that structure, a quick, mobile midfielder who always presents for the ball but understands his role and more importantly knows his limits.

he is getting older, so Roar just promote that Caletti kid who is the exact type of player, and the club keeps rolling.

Jets have no 'identity', and seemingly no one within the organisation who knows how to mould the group we have, or how to find players to implement a philosophy.

club is garbage, top to bottom.
Just sit it out til they get better then come back like the rest of us plan to.

That concept ended when the Griffmeister left.

As Boz once so aptly put it, this club is The Ship of Theseus.
No matter who or what we change, it still remains the same sack o' sh!t
Therefor, may I postulate before you Plutarch and good members of the Foz,
that the Jets prove it IS the same ship/sack o' sh!t.

[MFKS]

because we don't have any idea how the club wants to play.

case in point. Brisbane play a certain way.
Matt McKay is pretty important to that structure, a quick, mobile midfielder who always presents for the ball but understands his role and more importantly knows his limits.

he is getting older, so Roar just promote that Caletti kid who is the exact type of player, and the club keeps rolling.

Jets have no 'identity', and seemingly no one within the organisation who knows how to mould the group we have, or how to find players to implement a philosophy.

club is garbage, top to bottom.
Just sit it out til they get better then come back like the rest of us plan to.

We have an identity

It is being incompetent and mediocre and regularly achieving this.

Don't deny it because it actually true

There is no short term plan
There is no medium term plan
There is no long term plan

It just a series of band aid measures being applied to the club ever since the day Con decided to not cough up the coin to keep the 2008 side together.

We sack managers
We change players

But we don't address the key issue.

Which is ****ing stability and ambition

Until we change that nothing will improve.

We want to improve next year??
Simple solution to this

Back the Manager
Give him better quality players

Show some patience


We will improve


We want more of the same??
Let's then sack the manager
Let's then replace our shit squad with equally shit players
Then we can finish 7th-10th again and again

[plague]

When the best and biggest clubs in the World sign Managers on for minimum 3 year terms, with their KPI's pointing towards the WHOLE term not just one season, there's a goddamn reason.

I don't think the 'best and biggest' clubs in the world limit their coaching search to the CEO's Facebook friends though.

[StannyCFCJET]

We have an identity

It is being incompetent and mediocre and regularly achieving this.

Don't deny it because it actually true

There is no short term plan
There is no medium term plan
There is no long term plan

It just a series of band aid measures being applied to the club ever since the day Con decided to not cough up the coin to keep the 2008 side together.

We sack managers
We change players

But we don't address the key issue.

Which is ****ing stability and ambition

Until we change that nothing will improve.

We want to improve next year??
Simple solution to this

Back the Manager
Give him better quality players

Show some patience


We will improve


We want more of the same??
Let's then sack the manager
Let's then replace our shit squad with equally shit players
Then we can finish 7th-10th again and again

Manager has to show he warrants keeping around, Miller did this by good recruitment in January and slowly improved the performances. Jones has shown nothing

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Manager has to show he warrants keeping around, Miller did this by good recruitment in January and slowly improved the performances. Jones has shown nothing

He's shown he can take a decent squad, with the ability to make the 6, to a squad who will finish below the scum and probably last. By playing players out of position, by picking players out of form. By playing formations that put us at a disadvantage against opposition.

Jones has done nothing, he's done. Cyaaaa.

[MFKS]

Manager has to show he warrants keeping around, Miller did this by good recruitment in January and slowly improved the performances. Jones has shown nothing

Improving the performances??


You seem to forget that under Miller our strategy was to park the bus from minute 1-90 and hope for the best.

Our performance was just as shit if not more so.

You must have forgotten the 6-1 thumping at home to Glory

You must have forgotten the 4-0 hiding to Heart at home


Because we copped plenty of that under Miller


That was our first loss all season by 2goals +

Last few years we been copping several of them


As for whether Jones was the right choice when Miller got the arse. That is irrelevant. The decision was made and it is now time for the ****wits who made the decision to back Jones and give him some resources to improve

Until you cotton onto this concept we going nowhere

[MFKS]

He's shown he can take a decent squad, with the ability to make the 6, to a squad who will finish below the scum and probably last. By playing players out of position, by picking players out of form. By playing formations that put us at a disadvantage against opposition.

Jones has done nothing, he's done. Cyaaaa.

You do realise we play the same shit formation every week

This ****ed up 4-3-3 with our wingers wide our striker isolated and our midfield and defence over run??

We done the same under Muppet
We done the same under GVE
We done the same under Miller

Same shit again and again

[StannyCFCJET]

Improving the performances??


You seem to forget that under Miller our strategy was to park the bus from minute 1-90 and hope for the best.

Our performance was just as shit if not more so.

You must have forgotten the 6-1 thumping at home to Glory

You must have forgotten the 4-0 hiding to Heart at home


Because we copped plenty of that under Miller


That was our first loss all season by 2goals +

Last few years we been copping several of them


As for whether Jones was the right choice when Miller got the arse. That is irrelevant. The decision was made and it is now time for the ****wits who made the decision to back Jones and give him some resources to improve

Until you cotton onto this concept we going nowhere
Back Jones who has shown nothing to warrant being backed any further your insane Member!!

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Improving the performances??


You seem to forget that under Miller our strategy was to park the bus from minute 1-90 and hope for the best.

Our performance was just as shit if not more so.

You must have forgotten the 6-1 thumping at home to Glory

You must have forgotten the 4-0 hiding to Heart at home


Because we copped plenty of that under Miller


That was our first loss all season by 2goals +

Last few years we been copping several of them


As for whether Jones was the right choice when Miller got the arse. That is irrelevant. The decision was made and it is now time for the ****wits who made the decision to back Jones and give him some resources to improve

Until you cotton onto this concept we going nowhere

Jones has 8 less points than Miller, playing a "better" style of football. Says a lot.

Jones will not pick up 8 points from our final 4 matches.

Miller achieved more than Jones did, with a far worse squad. Anyway, lets not let facts get in the way of your obvious Jones bias.
We have a better defense this year, I wonder what playing defensively last year did for this years defensive structure. Yeah, lets not let that get in the way of your obvious Jones bias.

So you're saying, Jones might not be the person we want to go forward with, but for "stability" sake, lets just keep pushing forward with a shitty option?
Thats like saying a player isn't right for our squad, he not good enough, he's not fit for the job, but hey, lets just keep him in the squad because.. We need stability.

Yeah, no thanks.

[Grimario]

You do realise we play the same shit formation every week

This ****ed up 4-3-3 with our wingers wide our striker isolated and our midfield and defence over run??

We done the same under Muppet
We done the same under GVE
We done the same under Miller

Same shit again and again

It's the players fault though for playing that formation, clearly. Can't be anything the coaching staff do because St Mark is infallible.

[StannyCFCJET]

The players need to take massive blame cause theve underperformed and at times look like they do give a shit (or are simply no better than NPL standard) but Whatever Jones is doing that apparently is coaching isnt helping

[The Dunster]

Jones has 8 less points than Miller, playing a "better" style of football. Says a lot.

Jones will not pick up 8 points from our final 4 matches.

Miller achieved more than Jones did, with a far worse squad. Anyway, lets not let facts get in the way of your obvious Jones bias.
We have a better defense this year, I wonder what playing defensively last year did for this years defensive structure. Yeah, lets not let that get in the way of your obvious Jones bias.

So you're saying, Jones might not be the person we want to go forward with, but for "stability" sake, lets just keep pushing forward with a shitty option?
Thats like saying a player isn't right for our squad, he not good enough, he's not fit for the job, but hey, lets just keep him in the squad because.. We need stability.

Yeah, no thanks.

Adelaide are nowhere near where they were points wise this year and they have the same coach. So your methodology of assessing Jones leaves a lot to be desired given Jones has more points this season than Adelaide and Yet Adelaide comfortably beat Newcastle points wise last season.

The facts are the Jets team is shit, we pay top dollar for them, and there's essentially no future for the club as far as making finals is concerned.

[hawk]

The facts are the Jets team is shit, we pay top dollar for them, and there's essentially no future for the club as far as making finals is concerned.

This just about completes every football thread on the foz and most arguments around the town.

All this talk about formations, player ins and outs, coaches tactics, forwards backs mids keepers, abilities and injuries is just the biggest waste of time. Just Keep the team sheets for historiz and get to the cafe thread for talk about best coffee houses in newy.

[Frodo]

#Foldtheclub
#Mergewiththemarinators
#bringbackgoldcoastunited



I think the club needs to forget about spending money on football, we suck at it and its way to expensive to improve results for this team. We need to invest in something else to being people to the games.

- Full Strength Beers, Instead of signing visa players we spend that money on more security guards to look after the drunks. More local jobs, keep the money in our town.
- Lingerie league pre-game, half-time and full-time. No explanation necessary. Surely the $150k profit we made on 'Dimi expecto Patronus' would cover the girls wages for a year.
- Once we mathematically can't make the finals we just play the W-League team instead. The HAL players can go play in place of the girls, that way they get to miss out on finals football twice.
- Jet Shaped Hats. Spend whatever money they have left over subsidising the cost of Jet Shaped Hats and Jet fly-overs during the game, i'm talking like Harrier Jets in the 80th minute just to muck with people.
- Build a wall to keep the Caravans out and get the Gypos to pay for it.

[turbojetfireV8]

still skating round the issue here, if Martin is serious he needs to bring in a coach who has a clue about building a successful team, otherwise we are condemned to another season of this dross.

Jones has had his chance and has failed, he doesn't have the team where it should be, time to start planning who will lead the side next season and give him time to start selecting players and working on that coveted vision we all dream we had...

[halo se7en]

still skating round the issue here, if Martin is serious he needs to bring in a coach who has a clue about building a successful team, otherwise we are condemned to another season of this dross.

Jones has had his chance and has failed, he doesn't have the team where it should be, time to start planning who will lead the side next season and give him time to start selecting players and working on that coveted vision we all dream we had...

Or we just hire the new guy in October and give him a free pass for a season because it's not his team.

[MFKS]

Or we just hire the new guy in October and give him a free pass for a season because it's not his team.

Maybe if the last bloke had of signed some decent players we may have got somewhere this season

But it was your mate Miller who thought that we would get by with a CM rotation of shit like Kanta Poljak Stevie U and Brown

Then expects the entire attack to come from Nabbout and Raheem Sterling


Reality is Miller filled our squad with shite

It was him who got rid of Leaky G and Devonhead and Milos

All better players than the shit we have now

[pv4]

It was him who got rid of Leaky G

Tbf I don't think anyone can be blamed for LKJ going. He went on to bigger and better and more suited to him things, and was always too good for us.

[Jeterpool]

Maybe if the last bloke had of signed some decent players we may have got somewhere this season

But it was your mate Miller who thought that we would get by with a CM rotation of shit like Kanta Poljak Stevie U and Brown

Then expects the entire attack to come from Nabbout and Raheem Sterling


Reality is Miller filled our squad with shite

It was him who got rid of Leaky G and Devonhead and Milos

All better players than the shit we have now

Hang on, Ki-Je was sold to Ulsan and went home. The others were released by the club for rumoured various reasons, so I'll give you that.

[MonkeyKplunk]

Thats like saying a player isn't right for our squad, he not good enough, he's not fit for the job, but hey, lets just keep him in the squad because.. We need stability.


You mean like we keep doing with Hoole week in-week out?

[MFKS]

Hang on, Ki-Je was sold to Ulsan and went home. The others were released by the club for rumoured various reasons, so I'll give you that.

LeakyG sale though happened due to issues between him and Miller though

So it is relevant

[StannyCFCJET]

LeakyG sale though happened due to issues between him and Miller though

So it is relevant

How do you know?

[pv4]

LeakyG sale though happened due to issues between him and Miller though

I struggle to believe that. Would be interesting to hear the story(ies) behind it.

[Frodo]

Maybe if the last bloke had of signed some decent players we may have got somewhere this season

But it was your mate Miller who thought that we would get by with a CM rotation of shit like Kanta Poljak Stevie U and Brown

Then expects the entire attack to come from Nabbout and Raheem Sterling


Reality is Miller filled our squad with shite

It was him who got rid of Leaky G and Devonhead and Milos

All better players than the shit we have now


Classic Member.

[Frodo]

Also, Devonhead was a cancer and his sale was the best thing Miller did whilst he was here.

[MFKS]

Devonhead was a wanker no disagreement there.

That being said he was our best player and still is better than the shite we have or anyone Miller signed

[MFKS]

I struggle to believe that. Would be interesting to hear the story(ies) behind it.

Heard from player in squad few training ground issues.

Miller speaking disrespectful to LeakyG on several occasions.

LeakyG not impressed and said I want to go

[Frodo]

Devonhead was a wanker no disagreement there.

That being said he was our best player and still is better than the shite we have or anyone Miller signed

My problem with him was his inability to play in a team. Him being on the pitch affected the team worse than his skill affected the outcome of games. Not a rubbish player compared to our team, just a rubbish bloke.

[Frodo]

Heard from player in squad few training ground issues.

Miller speaking disrespectful to LeakyG on several occasions.

LeakyG not impressed and said I want to go

That may be true but he also received a nice offer from elsewhere. So either way i feel like he wouldn't still be here, but that conjecture so let's just admit that he left.



I think you, and a few others, need to stop this insistence that this isn't Jones' team and all his faults are actually caused by Scott Miller. It's pretty weak, i know you can do better than that.

Why don't you just say both of them are rubbish but you would like to see Jones given a proper pre-season before you make judgement on him? That is a fair point.

I don't feel Jones hasn't really done anything to change this team. All this talk of exciting football a few others have been mentioning is a bit much for me too, we can't get the ball into the oppositions box, let alone have shots or dare-i-say-it... Shots on Goal. We defend for 60 mins every game because we don't have the skill to keep the ball. Yeah, we have two quick guys this year who are decent on the counter which seems exciting if you forget the rest of the game... (Also, Miller signed the two exciting guys in our team, Lel.)

Jones isn't going to be backed in the transfer market, neither would Miller or any other manager that comes here. We are a piece of Mr Lees football puzzle, our results don't affect his overall strategy. Basically we will be fighting to make the top 8 every year let alone the 6.

[plague]

Heard from player in squad few training ground issues.


Mark Jones is a 'playa'?

[StannyCFCJET]

Devonhead was a wanker no disagreement there.

That being said he was our best player and still is better than the shite we have or anyone Miller signed

*Birraz was hands down a best player, with Birraz we win the spoon by a big amount. and Without Duncan this year we probably win the spoon again

[steve136]

I miss the MFKS of like 3 months ago who was all about "we have no excuses not to win the league" and "if Leicester can do it there's no reason the Jets can't."

[skullboy]

Do you even watch the games? we are playing the same 4-2-3-1 formation we have been playing for years - except for Jones' 4-4-2 experiment at the beginning of the season which was an abysmal failure. Until he went back to Miller's pre-season 4-2-3-1 which won every game from memory. Jones also tried a 5-3-2 against the smurfs which failed appallingly.

The first change that needs to be made is Jones out.

[plague]

Do you even watch the games? we are playing the same 4-2-3-1 formation we have been playing for years - except for Jones' 4-4-2 experiment at the beginning of the season which was an abysmal failure. Until he went back to Miller's pre-season 4-2-3-1 which won every game from memory. Jones also tried a 5-3-2 against the smurfs which failed appallingly.

The first change that needs to be made is Jones out.


You forgot the 10 v 11 formation we often play when Boogaard gets sent off.

It's a Jones specialty.

[MFKS]

You forgot the 10 v 11 formation we often play when Boogaard gets sent off.

It's a Jones specialty.

It was a Miller speciality
Miller 4
Jones 0


Big dog hasn't got sent off at all this season

Jones has controlled the beast within

[plague]

It was a Miller speciality
Miller 4
Jones 0


Big dog hasn't got sent off at all this season

Jones has controlled the beast within

How much water do you drink every day to be able to urinate on absolutely everything?

For gods sake man can't you just let it sit before storming in wearing your 'well actually' mask and cape?

[MFKS]

How much water do you drink every day to be able to urinate on absolutely everything?

For gods sake man can't you just let it sit before storming in wearing your 'well actually' mask and cape?

Just get the shit right and stop ****ing it up then

[plague]

Just get the shit right and stop ****ing it up then

Dear god you're terrible at this.

[MFKS]

Dear god you're terrible at this.

But other people here are paying attention bro.

Not want to make you look bad with dodgy stats

Be terrible if the entire fix could see this somehow

Thank God you didn't post it on the internet

[plague]

But other people here are paying attention bro.

Not want to make you look bad with dodgy stats

Be terrible if the entire fix could see this somehow

Thank God you didn't post it on the internet

Keep going.