Who's Next - aka New Manager Speculation Discussion

[Roundball Enthusiast]

For me, now bear with me.. this might sound fkn bananas...

Harry Kewell.

Thoughts?

Throw out your suggestions.. Lets give Lee and McKinna some ideas ;)

[WolfMan]

You're right. Bananas

Let's sign another unproven entity. It's gotta work at some point

EDIT: Top of my hypothetical list is Merrick. Should have gone in for him when he went to Wellington

[StannyCFCJET]

Mike Mulvey or Ernie Merrick. Proven Aleague and have won the league thats what we need

[MFKS]

Aurelio Vidmar.


Need a manager to call us a piss ant club in a piss ant town etc

[Roundball Enthusiast]

When you all say "unproven" you realise Kevin Muscat is the Manager of Melbourne Victory, right?

Kevin ****ing Muscat.

[Hunter403]

The usual names will appear:
Merrick, Mulvey, Pappas, Zane, Rudan, Vidmar etc.
Kewell? No experience and would never live in Newy.

I'd like us to do something like Adelaide did with Gombau. LEDMAN has strong links in Portugal so maybe someone from there?

Would love Gombau but can't see him quitting his national job....but, he was up here a couple of weeks ago (conspiracy theory begins).

[Hunter403]

When you all say "unproven" you realise Kevin Muscat is the Manager of Melbourne Victory, right?

Kevin ****ing Muscat.

Muscat proves that good players and money can make a knob manager look good. Muscat in charge of our team would still have us last and with more red cards.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Would love Gombau but can't see him quitting his national job....but, he was up here a couple of weeks ago (conspiracy theory begins).

Thats why I made this :)

[rhysd]

Wouldn't be surprised that merrick was tapped up by Lee/mckinna and that's why he quit NZ gig.

Somebody has been making these player signings. Considering mckinna is in "regular contact" with Lee I would imagine this has been coming for a while.

They now have a genuine window to really seek a top manager and recruit some talented players. If it doesn't happen now it never will!

[furns]

I would have preferred Papas been appointed rather than Jones, and while I still want him at the Jets I don't think we can take a punt on him at this point in time.
Mulvey in thanks

[Jeterpool]

I would have preferred Papas been appointed rather than Jones, and while I still want him at the Jets I don't think we can take a punt on him at this point in time.
Mulvey in thanks

Mulvey makes sense...We've got half the Roar youth signed up, don't we?

[Grimario]

Lawrie is going to make the only logical decision and appoint Hutcho.

[hawk]

Mulvey makes sense...We've got half the Roar youth signed up, don't we?

ah Mulva, could be interesting

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[Jetmaster]

Mulvey begged for the Jets job last time GVE got it. Has the runs on the board and was treated badly by Roar, so he may be wary of Lee (though he did successfully sue).

Some may feel we shouldn't go British again. Would throw cash at Josip but would take Mulvey.

[borat]

Should use Ledman's contacts and employ a foreign coach with strong links to recruiting os players and a proven track record of player development

[Jetmaster]

...though if you go by Facey people, Miller will be back in a heartbeat!

[borat]

Lawrie is going to make the only logical decision and appoint Hutcho.

No statement from Lawrie makes me think he is going to announce his own departure in the next 2 weeks

[MFKS]

No statement from Lawrie makes me think he is going to announce his own departure in the next 2 weeks

Mission Accomplished then

Gypos be building a statue for the ****er trolling us

[MFKS]

Mulvey??

Bloke came in as technical director of a club who finished 4th in Malaysia

His influence seen them struggle that much that he got the gig and they got relegated from the top flight

He also done nothing with the other Malaysian side he coached.

Bloke has done little in his career except be the lucky sod who took over at Roar with a quality championship squad after Rado ****ed it up

Jagged one title out of it and then got the sack due to his competence

Why the fapfest for a bloke with a failure record like that??

FFS GAVE has won a HAL and ****ed shit up as much as this bloke

[Jetmaster]

Mulvey??

Bloke came in as technical director of a club who finished 4th in Malaysia

His influence seen them struggle that much that he got the gig and they got relegated from the top flight

He also done nothing with the other Malaysian side he coached.

Bloke has done little in his career except be the lucky sod who took over at Roar with a quality championship squad after Rado ****ed it up

Jagged one title out of it and then got the sack due to his competence

Why the fapfest for a bloke with a failure record like that??

FFS GAVE has won a HAL and ****ed shit up as much as this bloke

Your top three choices pls.

[white city]

The best decision is to finally invest the cash for a foreign manager.!!

Someone of Eastern European heritage who shall bring in his own support staff and has the knowledge of developing youth and is keen to help the emerging jets.

Something which alot of the asian clubs are doing and thus why there quality of football is constantly improving. Mr Lee i believe would be aware of this. Lets hope anyway!!

[rhysd]

The best decision is to finally invest the cash for a foreign manager.!!

Someone of Eastern European heritage who shall bring in his own support staff and has the knowledge of developing youth and is keen to help the emerging jets.

Something which alot of the asian clubs are doing and thus why there quality of football is constantly improving. Mr Lee i believe would be aware of this. Lets hope anyway!!

I am quite sure that a successful Chinese businessman understands the importance of building a business from the ground up.

[MFKS]

Your top three choices pls.

Tony Vidmar

Bloke being around Griff is responsible for two of the greatest moments of my life.
24.2.08 & 16.11.05

Common denominator is Griff and Vidmar being together.
IMHO the Socceroos were denied lifting the WC in Germany down to Hiddink not selecting these two

Imagine them 24-7 together running the Jets

Arthur Pappas. Has 100% record against the Gypos in competitive matches
When he was here he was the best coach we have ever had at the club.

Go foreign. Hopefully get some **** who can't even speak the language would be even better so we don't have to listen to him get every word he says turned against by every dimwit fan in Newy

Maybe some bloke from Argentina just for a laugh. Those blokes understand style and mongrel and like to mix the two into a game plan

[lquiquer]

Ranieri, Blanc, Girard, Erickson.... aim big

[StannyCFCJET]

What is this GVE rumour

[Jardelsimage]

how about we have all the super coaches on the forum, community coaching 101.

everyone can have a week each, first one to lose does a nuddie run before the next home game....

[westjet]

Alan Pardew. Worked at basket case clubs before and achieved some decent results.

[Jetmaster]

Alan Pardew. Worked at basket case clubs before and achieved some decent results.

Would love to see Pards lock horns with Muscat on the sideline!

[WolfMan]

how about we have all the super coaches on the forum, community coaching 101.

everyone can have a week each, first one to lose does a nuddie run before the next home game....

I would actually love this idea. At least we'd have fun

[OmeletteDuFromage]

What is this GVE rumour

where?

[Jardelsimage]

I would actually love this idea. At least we'd have fun

northern could draw the names out, that way it would be fair.

[monz6]

how about we have all the super coaches on the forum, community coaching 101.

everyone can have a week each, first one to lose does a nuddie run before the next home game....

So basically just whoever takes over in week one haha

[lquiquer]

So basically just whoever takes over in week one haha

Because of vast numbers of coaches on the foz....I suggest we could have a duo and to start with I would nominate the Member and Stanny :lulzturtle:

I don't see Plague sharing the job....he can go solo v SFC

[The Dunster]

https://greatalbumcovers.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/great-album-covers-whos-next-the-who-1971.jpg

We Won't Get Fooled Again!!!!!!!!

[Jetmaster]

https://greatalbumcovers.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/great-album-covers-whos-next-the-who-1971.jpg

We Won't Get Fooled Again!!!!!!!!

"Meet the new boss......same as the old boss".

[StannyCFCJET]

Because of vast numbers of coaches on the foz....I suggest we could have a duo and to start with I would nominate the Member and Stanny :lulzturtle:

I don't see Plague sharing the job....he can go solo v SFC
Not my squad give me another season

[lquiquer]

Not my squad give me another season

:roflz:

[halo se7en]

Mulvey??

Bloke came in as technical director of a club who finished 4th in Malaysia

His influence seen them struggle that much that he got the gig and they got relegated from the top flight

He also done nothing with the other Malaysian side he coached.

Bloke has done little in his career except be the lucky sod who took over at Roar with a quality championship squad after Rado ****ed it up

Jagged one title out of it and then got the sack due to his competence

Why the fapfest for a bloke with a failure record like that??

FFS GAVE has won a HAL and ****ed shit up as much as this bloke

First time I've agreed with you in a while. We should be aiming higher.

[The Dunster]

Roberto Mancini

Aim I aiming too high ?

[lquiquer]

Roberto Mancini

Aim I aiming too high ?

Never too high when Chinese $$$$ involved

[StannyCFCJET]

We should use Mr Lee contacts to get a proven but unheard of European coach. Estentially a Gombau number 2

[lquiquer]

[QUOTE=StannyCFCJETtially a Gombau number 2[/QUOTE]

A Gombau number 2 sounds like shit....

[MFKS]

We should use Mr Lee contacts to get a proven but unheard of European coach. Estentially a Gombau number 2

Wht ****ing contacts he got??
Last time we had a world wide search after Miller got the arse his contacts came up with Jones


His contacts are ****ing shit if that the best he can offer

[The Dunster]

I think Mancini would be great here. His record is fabulous as a coach, he was an incredible player as well. He won't be cheap but I really think this is the level of manager/ coach we need if we want to start drawing the best players to the club. What ever he costs you would get back simply because players would be willing to play for far less money just to be associated with him.

https://twitter.com/robymancio?lang=en

Let's do this.

[borat]

Wht ****ing contacts he got??
Last time we had a world wide search after Miller got the arse his contacts came up with Jones


His contacts are ****ing shit if that the best he can offer

Not quite. Mckinna insisted they had to be local and onboard in 2 weeks. That was the single biggest mistake made by the club this season.

Ledman has a team in China and ties to the Portuguese 2nd div. we should use any advantage he can give us.

[foti68]

Id sign Paul Okon from the scum

[Grimario]

A Gombau number 2 sounds like shit....

:lulz:

[Jetmaster]

Whoever it is will cop the wrath of the foz within weeks.

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[Mark325]

Lookin at the people that have been thrown out on facey/twitter/foz, I would say I would be at best content with signing someone like Ernie Merrick but would like to see the club aim much higher then him. I would prefer an international but at the same time, an international with some actual chops and proven track records, not portugals version of stubbins

[plague]

I don't see Plague sharing the job....he can go solo v SFC

Why would I take a pay cut?
Why would I want to get a job?

[plague]

Legit though I hope it's someone we've never heard of.
At least that way it will look like they are trying.

[The Dunster]

Lookin at the people that have been thrown out on facey/twitter/foz, I would say I would be at best content with signing someone like Ernie Merrick but would like to see the club aim much higher then him. I would prefer an international but at the same time, an international with some actual chops and proven track records, not portugals version of stubbins

Merrick resigned from his last Job because even though he had a good squad he couldn't get them to fire. He's not good enough to get this club back on track either. Sure e did ok at times with Victory but he also had pretty much the best funded and provided for team in the league. With anything less he's going to struggle.

[lquiquer]

Why would I take a pay cut?
Why would I want to get a job?

Who said you getting paid?

[sorefootballer]

Cannot be someone in and around the A- league. These Bert and Ernies are not going to get us away from the rabble that this club is currently in. Why not someone who has previously built championship competitive squads from a ****ing piss poor team such as ours has been.. Get a few scouts and use griffology

[Retro Jet]

https://greatalbumcovers.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/great-album-covers-whos-next-the-who-1971.jpg

We Won't Get Fooled Again!!!!!!!!

Is that monolith 1 x 4 x 9?

[plague]

Who said you getting paid?


Well
This is a fair point in that Jones shouldn't have been paid a red cent for his debacleness but on the flip side who the **** even wants to get paid to go through that.

I mean, it's got to be some poor person on the welfare yeah?

[The Dunster]

http://www.soccermemes.net/images/memes/SM_4afdd8597aa9578f0.jpg

You can't get much more Newy than this.

[StannyCFCJET]

http://www.soccermemes.net/images/memes/SM_4afdd8597aa9578f0.jpg

You can't get much more Newy than this.

Dont we all

[Mark325]

Merrick resigned from his last Job because even though he had a good squad he couldn't get them to fire. He's not good enough to get this club back on track either. Sure e did ok at times with Victory but he also had pretty much the best funded and provided for team in the league. With anything less he's going to struggle.

This is why I said that at best id be content with someone like Merrick, he is not the be all end all by any stretch yet people are throwin his name around like he'd be a god send

If that's who we ended off with, I'd definitely be less disappointed then with just promoting zane or anyone who's only had any npl experience or no first team coach experience at all cause he's been around but I wouldn't be overly happy with it cause I know he's not the coach who's gonna lead us to a season win

What I was originally saying is that we should be aiming no lower then someone like Merrick but also aiming higher then someone like merrick

[The Dunster]

This is why I said that at best id be content with someone like Merrick, he is not the be all end all by any stretch yet people are throwin his name around like he'd be a god send

If that's who we ended off with, I'd definitely be less disappointed then with just promoting zane or anyone who's only had any npl experience or no first team coach experience at all cause he's been around but I wouldn't be overly happy with it cause I know he's not the coach who's gonna lead us to a season win

What I was originally saying is that we should be aiming no lower then someone like Merrick but also aiming higher then someone like merrick

I have confidence that Mr Lee will get it right and bring in a manager that can get the job done. I honestly can't see him even looking at any locals / Australians for the job. If he does, I'd say that will pretty much be the end of the club. We need a high profile manager with the power to bring in quality players at bargain prices. This is something none of our managers have ever been capable of since the A-league began. You could get away with it in the past - but with the complexities of the salary cap as they are today managers need to be able to fill all marquee and outside the cap positions with quality players - and squeeze a few top quality players under the cap as well. The sooner we get a quality manager the sooner we can start building a team capable of winning the league.

[EH9]

The best decision is to finally invest the cash for a foreign manager.!!

Someone of Eastern European heritage who shall bring in his own support staff and has the knowledge of developing youth and is keen to help the emerging jets.

Something which alot of the asian clubs are doing and thus why there quality of football is constantly improving. Mr Lee i believe would be aware of this. Lets hope anyway!!

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[MFKS]

Al
http://www.soccermemes.net/images/memes/SM_4afdd8597aa9578f0.jpg

You can't get much more Newy than this.
Almost describes me perfectly

[northern_swan]

I reckon we give Robert Dillon a go. If his twitter account and dribble in the Herald is anything to go by, he'd be the best manager in A-League history.

[MFKS]

I reckon we give Robert Dillon a go. If his twitter account and dribble in the Herald is anything to go by, he'd be the best manager in A-League history.
Bullshit.

What about the same 4/5 who trash the club in the comments in every article posted by the Herald??


Get them in

[MFKS]

On another note.

How ****ing prepared is the Chinese Lightsalesman for the sacking of Jones??

Fingers crossed the knives had been sharpened and just waiting for FT on the season to slice and dice Jones

Issue is that until we actually have a manager in place we are actually limiting our ability to sign anyone

Considering right now is the time of year clubs are releasing players and signings are taking place we ain't even going to be in the picture whilst we don't have a head honcho

We will see by how long it takes to announce the next mother****er how organised the assignation on Jones was.

Fingers crossed a new man is announced before week is out as the clock is ticking

[furns]

On another note.

How ****ing prepared is the Chinese Lightsalesman for the sacking of Jones??

Fingers crossed the knives had been sharpened and just waiting for FT on the season to slice and dice Jones

Issue is that until we actually have a manager in place we are actually limiting our ability to sign anyone

Considering right now is the time of year clubs are releasing players and signings are taking place we ain't even going to be in the picture whilst we don't have a head honcho

We will see by how long it takes to announce the next mother****er how organised the assignation on Jones was.

Fingers crossed a new man is announced before week is out as the clock is tickingAt least we know Lawrie as a stockpile of resumes from 6 months ago that wont entirely be out of date yet.
Maybe he'll actually look at them this time around.

[seldom]

Mike Mulvey or Ernie Merrick. Proven Aleague and have won the league thats what we need

Merrick underperformed with a much stronger squad than the Jets have. Mulvey was sacked for losing the dressing room at Roar. Honestly tho, I have no idea who we will be able to attract with quality.

[The Dunster]

In no particular order these are people I think the club should consider approaching.

Roberto Mancini
Laurent Blanc
Andrea Mandorlini
Rémi Garde
Cesare Prandelli
Marcelino
Paolo Di Canio
Frank de Boer

Realistically I don't think any of them would come here - but at least the club could get an idea of just how shit we are.

[redwah]

Bullshit.

What about the same 4/5 who trash the club in the comments in every article posted by the Herald??


Get them in

You trash the club, players, supporters, ffa , football in general and pretty mush everything else.....ever....you should do it so we can be the greatest team in history.

[redwah]

We'll end up with some Chinese manager so the ready made excuse next season will be..the players didn't follow the coaches instructions....and no it doesn't matter that none of them speak mandarin

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Get that Rocky Liu bloke in

[borat]

There is a whole world of managers out there other than those who have been successful in the top 4 leagues.

We should be looking to Asia and poaching a successful manager from there.

I would like to see us go for Shin-Tae Yong. Current coach of the Sth Korean u-23 side and former assistant to Miron Bleiberg at the Roar. Won the ACL with Seongnam in his 2nd year as a Manager. Was a very successful striker in his day and coaches attacking football. Maybe out of our league but still the type of Manager we should be looking for.

We shouldn't be retricted to the usual suspects here in Australia or blokes from Toronto. Nor should we be restricted to managers the Facebook crowd has heard of.

[borat]

You trash the club, players, supporters, ffa , football in general and pretty mush everything else.....ever....you should do it so we can be the greatest team in history.

Does a pretty amazing backflip and reverse pike too

[lquiquer]

Does a pretty amazing backflip and reverse pike too

Get off the Members back, the bloke loves the club more than all of you together and he raises good questions.....what's bad about that?...... Are we ****ing successful: NO........so ****ing sob as much as you want but obviously needs radical change. He wanted Jones next year not because he is great but because of uncertainty about Chinese Lord financial commitment....let's see how much he commits.....

[MFKS]

You trash the club, players, supporters, ffa , football in general and pretty mush everything else.....ever....you should do it so we can be the greatest team in history.

McKinna has my number.

I happy to take the job on

[lquiquer]

McKinna has my number.

I happy to take the job on

McKinna after being the god of twitter now ignores every khunt on social media except one,.... and he probably stalk him......

[q-money]

this whole last year has been a martin lee-jit disgrace

as for membership...shut up and take my money, i want to be on the rocketship to the moon or when the whole shithouse goes up in flames...each option costs $17 a month, we have it good

[turbojetfireV8]

a bit unsure about the hiatus in signings till the new coach is announced, hope that doesn't mean we stop approaching players (Australian ones at least) who could be useful (Troisi as Aussie Marquee???)

[pv4]

At least whomever gets the job will have the backing of all the Herald blokes, seeing as though the coach isn't responsible for anything ever.

[turbojetfireV8]

let's see how much mileage the press can make of it: http://www.a-league.com.au/photo-gallery/5-candidates-to-coach-newcastle-jets-htk80121r5m31p5i2vx7ow0zv ;)

[hawk]

Get off the Members back, the bloke loves the club more than all of you together and he raises good questions.....He wanted Jones next year not because he is great but because of uncertainty about Chinese Lord financial commitment....let's see how much he commits.....

that would be just stupid. Couldnt give a toss if Lee goes broke.

Although i lost respect for Lee when he turfed Miller over a schoolboy spat at least he's consistent

[belchardo]

well, given mckinna has already said no rookies, thankfully we can rule out rudan! no doubt the usual pundits are lining up to champion his cause.

[ForeverRed]

Alan pardew's available

[plague]

Wait? Are there people on here who think Pardew would be good?

[furns]

Alan pardew's available


Wait? Are there people on here who think Pardew would be good?Cant wait to see the fume from our Geordie contingent if Pards is appointed :roflz:

[Bremsstrahlung]

Let's get Craig Foster, knows everything there is to know.
Win-win.
Foster puts his money where his mouth is and fails miserably.
Or we have a successful team.

[Football_Magic14]

Give Laurie a chance as he did well at CCM on a small budget.

[Bon]

https://greatalbumcovers.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/great-album-covers-whos-next-the-who-1971.jpg

We Won't Get Fooled Again!!!!!!!!

I just assumed Dunster was getting all symbolic..
The monolith is obviously us, the fans.. The four gents pissing all over it and not caring are the CEO, coach (ex), players and Lee..

[Grimario]

Give Laurie a chance as he did well at CCM on a small budget.

In a league that didn't have second marquee, Cahill guest rule, outside allowance for long term players...

[pv4]

In a league that didn't have second marquee, Cahill guest rule, outside allowance for long term players...

:rof: in a time when only 1 marquee was allowed, Lawrie used 3 marquees and couldn't even win the league!

[Grimario]

:rof: in a time when only 1 marquee was allowed, Lawrie used 3 marquees and couldn't even win the league!

What?

[white city]

going by "Soccer Stoppage Time" lawrie said that he copped the firm word from the chinese owners. in regards to Jones appointment and it was Lee's men who made the decision to sack him, Lawrie would have kept him if he had a say.

i get the sense Lee and and his Ledman consortium dont accept failure and alot of pressure will be on Mckinna to come up with the appropriate shortlist of candidates this time around. i believe we will start to see some further control coming from China as there is perhaps a disappointment in Lawrie's so called local knowledge not bringing much success of late.

i think we are now in the best position (live in hope :-)) that under the Ledman consortium we as a club finally have the business smarts and financial power to achieve the most we ever have as a club. i will stay positive

[pv4]

What?

07/08. Marquee rules allowed for 1 marquee. CCM used that marquee spot on Tony Vidmar. CCM also used 2x Injury Replacement spots on Alvin Ceccoli & John Aloisi, and paid them substantially more than the players whom they replaced, and the FFA deemed these IR contracts a "creative loophole" that afterwards the rules were changed so IR players had to be on the same or less money (and I think they even brought in a rule about similar positions? Because from memory alone, Aloisi replace Matt Osman, a utility defender/midfielder). So, in a time when you could pay 1 player irrelevant of the cap, CCM paid 3 players in that way.

So yeah, when Lawrie did "so well on a shoestring budget" I argue that he had more financial freedom than any other manager.

[plague]

in regards to Jones appointment and it was Lee's men who made the decision to sack him, Lawrie would have kept him if he had a say.


What a weak ass thing for that Gypo to say.
Great to see he can deflect blame as good as his mate Jones.

This is our CEO boys, enjoy it.

[pv4]

Just reading McKinna's comments from September:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4166632/mckinna-under-pressure-to-choose-new-coach/


McKinna wants someone in place by the end of next week and is planning a behind-closed-doors trial against A-League opposition in late September to give the new coach an extra game with the squad before the season kicks off.

He conceded he did not have a lot of time to make an important decision but said he would accept responsibility whatever the outcome.

“I’ll make the decision. Obviously I’ll put it to Martin,” McKinna said. “If I get it wrong, it’s on me, nobody else, but Martin’s entrusted me to make that decision.”

So the outcome is Jones was deemed not worthy to fulfill his 2 year contract, and that it was worth investing the money to pay him out. How exactly is McKinna accepting the responsibility of that outcome by saying that Lee made the decision to sack Jones and he would have kept him??

Also, whatever level of management of the club has deemed Jones to be the wrong choice, by sacking him. According to McKinna's words, then, that is solely on McKinna.

But McKinna isn't standing up and admitting he got it wrong??

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If Jones was wrong, then McKinna is wrong. Wonder what Lee's move will be here..

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[Frodo]

I only briefly read through all this conjecture but did someone really put forward Roberto Mancini as coach? That man earns more money per game than we could afford for a season. We really are a delusional bunch.

I can see this either going to Mulvey or a complete left-field unknown, like an assistant youth coach from Athletic Madrid or an MLS assistant coach or even a CSL coach being pushed out to be replaced by a big money coach like Pardew. Here's hoping it's the unknown.

[belchardo]

Just reading McKinna's comments from September:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4166632/mckinna-under-pressure-to-choose-new-coach/



So the outcome is Jones was deemed not worthy to fulfill his 2 year contract, and that it was worth investing the money to pay him out. How exactly is McKinna accepting the responsibility of that outcome by saying that Lee made the decision to sack Jones and he would have kept him??

Also, whatever level of management of the club has deemed Jones to be the wrong choice, by sacking him. According to McKinna's words, then, that is solely on McKinna.

But McKinna isn't standing up and admitting he got it wrong??

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If Jones was wrong, then McKinna is wrong. Wonder what Lee's move will be here..

https://i.giphy.com/qR6UR8K1Ia2BO.gif

given the short timeframe to find someone, it just seems like sheer lunacy to have offered that person a two year deal.

[Grimario]

an MLS assistant coach

Like that guy who is an assistant coach at Seattle Sounders whose name escapes me...

[The Camel]

Wait? Are there people on here who think Pardew would be good?

He might not be any good but sideline antics against other managers would be entertaining. Pardew vs Muscat would fill a stadium.

[Frodo]

Like that guy who is an assistant coach at Seattle Sounders whose name escapes me...

Website says Djimi Traore and Gonzalo Pineda

[StannyCFCJET]

He might not be any good but sideline antics against other managers would be entertaining. Pardew vs Muscat would fill a stadium.

Pardew to headbut Berisha. Id pay to watch that

[pv4]

given the short timeframe to find someone, it just seems like sheer lunacy to have offered that person a two year deal.

TBF if I were Mark Jones I would have tried to get a 2 year deal also. Like Lowey said, house deposit. I guess the "only" downfall is as Robert Dillon said - career suicide.

[MFKS]

What?

He is a Gypo.

For the inside Goss on the Coast WLG is the man on the ground

Don't doubt his sauces

[Frodo]

Pardew to headbut Berisha. Id pay to watch that

Since when is 'Salsa dancing Pardew' ever head-butted someone? Pardew is a soft-touch and it showed when he lost every change room he walked into and no big teams gave him a chance. He is a mid table coach who has lost his touch. He'd be better off using his name to get some money in China.

[Grimario]

Website says Djimi Traore and Gonzalo Pineda

Seattle Sounders 2 then.

[Jeterpool]

Since when is 'Salsa dancing Pardew' ever head-butted someone? Pardew is a soft-touch and it showed when he lost every change room he walked into and no big teams gave him a chance. He is a mid table coach who has lost his touch. He'd be better off using his name to get some money in China.

He headbutted a Hull player

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/26402044

[borat]

Just reading McKinna's comments from September:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4166632/mckinna-under-pressure-to-choose-new-coach/



So the outcome is Jones was deemed not worthy to fulfill his 2 year contract, and that it was worth investing the money to pay him out. How exactly is McKinna accepting the responsibility of that outcome by saying that Lee made the decision to sack Jones and he would have kept him??

Also, whatever level of management of the club has deemed Jones to be the wrong choice, by sacking him. According to McKinna's words, then, that is solely on McKinna.

But McKinna isn't standing up and admitting he got it wrong??

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If Jones was wrong, then McKinna is wrong. Wonder what Lee's move will be here..

https://i.giphy.com/qR6UR8K1Ia2BO.gif

I am actually amazed at Lawrie has the level of support that he has. The guy is a rookie CEO who as far as I can see has made mistake after mistake and then blamed anyone else he can for it.

Seriously, what single positive thing has he a achieved for this club? The only thing I can see is he is a nice bloke who likes to talk to fans on Twitter.

[Frodo]

He headbutted a Hull player

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/26402044

Well there you go. I do remember that now.

[pv4]

Seriously, what single positive thing has he a achieved for this club? The only thing I can see is he is a nice bloke who likes to talk to fans on Twitter.

One of the best things to come from this season was the Jerks/CCM membership ticket thing where I could get into Bluetongue using my Jerks membership card. I assume Lawrie had something to do with that. At least, I personally have given him some form of credit for it. If someone knows whom was the driving force behind this initiative, please let me know so I can praise appropriately.

[Jeterpool]

One of the best things to come from this season was the Jerks/CCM membership ticket thing where I could get into Bluetongue using my Jerks membership card. I assume Lawrie had something to do with that. At least, I personally have given him some form of credit for it. If someone knows whom was the driving force behind this initiative, please let me know so I can praise appropriately.

This was something raised by the Member's Advisory Board to explore with all NSW clubs. Don't know if this was the catalyst, but it was certainly something raised.

[MFKS]

Interesting the article in the Herald today about the druggos having faith in their coach and seeking stability and showing patience with their plans to resurrect their fortunes

Considering the bloke has had 2 wins ever in 30 something games and oversaw a 20 game losing streak it is amazing they can show patience and not seek and instant fix unlike the idiots at Jets HQ

[Bon]

Interesting the article in the Herald today about the druggos having faith in their coach and seeking stability and showing patience with their plans to resurrect their fortunes

Considering the bloke has had 2 wins ever in 30 something games and oversaw a 20 game losing streak it is amazing they can show patience and not seek and instant fix unlike the idiots at Jets HQ

Yeah, sure seems to be working for them.....

I'm waiting on hawk to jump up and down at you for even mentioning the hand-egg team.. :gent:

[lquiquer]

If Ranieri was on $2.5 Million a season at Leicester (According to today's Herald), well it's pretty cheap and good value. But probably would not be interested anyway.....

[Grimario]

If Ranieri was on $2.5 Million a season at Leicester (According to today's Herald), well it's pretty cheap and good value. But probably would not be interested anyway.....

Don't forget we only play half a year, less than half the games and he can enjoy the Newcastle lifestyle. Would get him in for $1m easy.

[belchardo]

Don't forget we only play half a year, less than half the games and he can enjoy the Newcastle lifestyle. Would get him in for $1m easy.

and we also only work for half a day when we do train, so it's down to $500K! :D

[halo se7en]

Interesting the article in the Herald today about the druggos having faith in their coach and seeking stability and showing patience with their plans to resurrect their fortunes

Considering the bloke has had 2 wins ever in 30 something games and oversaw a 20 game losing streak it is amazing they can show patience and not seek and instant fix unlike the idiots at Jets HQ

At the very least you could have waited until they win a few games before saying 'I told so'... then again, one can only hold their breath for so long.

[MFKS]

At the very least you could have waited until they win a few games before saying 'I told so'... then again, one can only hold their breath for so long.

It not about them winning games now

They have basically accepted they are not going to win many games in 2016-2017 etc

They are actually taking the steady ahead approach that give it another 2-3 years will see them closer to the top than the bottom

They may not win the comp from it but I backing that by 2019-2020 time frame they will have a side at the top end of the table rather than the bottom end

Us on the other hand will probably have fired another 4 managers and collected another 2 spoons

[westjet]

It not about them winning games now

They have basically accepted they are not going to win many games in 2016-2017 etc

They are actually taking the steady ahead approach that give it another 2-3 years will see them closer to the top than the bottom

They may not win the comp from it but I backing that by 2019-2020 time frame they will have a side at the top end of the table rather than the bottom end

Us on the other hand will probably have fired another 4 managers and collected another 2 spoons

Dont let the fact that they are owned by the NRL get in the way of your story. Just like the FFA with us they are not going to be rushing to fire a coach and having to pay them out. May be a different story if they get an owner who wants to succeed rather than a governing body owning them and happy for them just to be in the comp/have an extra game for tv. The knights have a free pass to suck for as long as the NRL own them. We by the looks of it have an owner who wants to succeed and a lot quicker than it originally looked. Stability is definitely important but stability for the sake of stability with the wrong people in charge is as stupid as constantly changing coaches.

[MFKS]

Dont let the fact that they are owned by the NRL get in the way of your story. Just like the FFA with us they are not going to be rushing to fire a coach and having to pay them out. May be a different story if they get an owner who wants to succeed rather than a governing body owning them and happy for them just to be in the comp/have an extra game for tv. The knights have a free pass to suck for as long as the NRL own them. We by the looks of it have an owner who wants to succeed and a lot quicker than it originally looked. Stability is definitely important but stability for the sake of stability with the wrong people in charge is as stupid as constantly changing coaches.

Whether the Knights are owned by the NRL has little to do with it.

They have a plan and are sticking to it. They are blooding locals and trying to rebuild the club that way.
That is the method they have chosen

On the other hand we have the Jets who let's face it have no plan at all

Giving Jones 2 years and sacking him after 12 is not planned it is reactive

Signing players for next season Georgevski Petratos I Caravan etc is a sign that Jones was not getting the arse until recent form created the need

This club has no ****ing plan in place and can't see further than their ****ing nose

[Frodo]

Whether the Knights are owned by the NRL has little to do with it.

They have a plan and are sticking to it. They are blooding locals and trying to rebuild the club that way.
That is the method they have chosen

On the other hand we have the Jets who let's face it have no plan at all

Giving Jones 2 years and sacking him after 12 is not planned it is reactive

Signing players for next season Georgevski Petratos I Caravan etc is a sign that Jones was not getting the arse until recent form created the need

This club has no ****ing plan in place and can't see further than their ****ing nose

Sorry member, your lack of Egg ball knowledge is probably clouding your judgement on this one.

The Nites are throwing money at anyone who will look at them. They don't have a plan in recruitment other than get guys on their last pay check or last chance saloon.

There are also not many other coaches willing to take on the gig as they can't attract players yet. The sale to the Wests Group this year should change things for them, but they don't really have enough money to buy the league so i guess the Nites will be mid-table to spoon hunting just like us for the next few years.

[sammydog]

Interesting the article in the Herald today about the druggos having faith in their coach and seeking stability and showing patience with their plans to resurrect their fortunes

Considering the bloke has had 2 wins ever in 30 something games and oversaw a 20 game losing streak it is amazing they can show patience and not seek and instant fix unlike the idiots at Jets HQ

When they eventually get an owner, let's see how patient they are if the results continue. His job is only safe as the NRL don't want to pay him out.

[halo se7en]

Whether the Knights are owned by the NRL has little to do with it.

They have a plan and are sticking to it. They are blooding locals and trying to rebuild the club that way.
That is the method they have chosen

On the other hand we have the Jets who let's face it have no plan at all

Giving Jones 2 years and sacking him after 12 is not planned it is reactive

Signing players for next season Georgevski Petratos I Caravan etc is a sign that Jones was not getting the arse until recent form created the need

This club has no ****ing plan in place and can't see further than their ****ing nose

I don't follow the Knights closely. But I read one article this morning that said they tried to sign Matt Scott (a QLDer) who eventually stayed with Nth Qld. They tried to sign Jack Bird from Cronulla before the Broncos came in with more money. They signed some promising youngster from Nth Qld who'll join next season. They're talking to Keiran Foran who isn't even Australian, let alone local. Throw in Jamie Buhrer (Manly) and Rory Kostjasyn (Nth Qld) that were both signed for this season.... they're blooding locals as much as the Jets are lol

Lee is still sticking to his plan that was made pretty clear when he started. Tight on the chequebook until he can assess the club after the first season. He assessed, didn't like what he saw, and now he's going about changing things. Georgevski & O'Donovan are proven A-league players and solid signings for us, manager or not. I'm happy we aren't chasing further targets until the new guy comes in - there's still some room for him to play with and he too won't have any excuses.

Aside from blabbering on about stability by keeping a coach who has proven to be absolutely useless, what plan would you put in place?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Lets piss this egg ball shit off. Trash game, trash team.

We have our own shit to worry about here let alone bringing that garbage in.
Head over to the Herald comment section if you want to discuss how to best punch your misses.

[Tommyjet]

Lets piss this egg ball shit off. Trash game, trash team.

We have our own shit to worry about here let alone bringing that garbage in.
Head over to the Herald comment section if you want to discuss how to best punch your misses.

Hear hear

[MFKS]

Sorry member, your lack of Egg ball knowledge is probably clouding your judgement on this one.

The Nites are throwing money at anyone who will look at them. They don't have a plan in recruitment other than get guys on their last pay check or last chance saloon.

There are also not many other coaches willing to take on the gig as they can't attract players yet. The sale to the Wests Group this year should change things for them, but they don't really have enough money to buy the league so i guess the Nites will be mid-table to spoon hunting just like us for the next few years.

The reason they are throwing money about is the NRL next year gets a salary cap increase next year plus they have their star druggos money to spend plus they are trying to buy some credibility as a destination for any future player / sponsor $$ in the future

They have shitload of cash to spend in reality

Issue is they are on the nose with players ever since Tinkler left just as we are.

We have only now just started attracting HAL standard in Our Caravan Georgevski Petratos etc

It not who they get that is the issue. They just need to break the glass ceiling and then they can get others in the future

[white city]

Ramon Tribulietx??

Thoughts everyone, interesting candidate?

coached Auckland City for many years now with much success and club has performed admirably in FIFA World Club Championships.

Was close to the Roar job before Aloisi, he will most likely be the leading candidate for the Pheonix job

[Wilso8948]

Need a coach who has succeeded in a league higher then ours. Look hard enough and we will find one.
Also everyone stop pretending like they know what's going on with the junior ranks at the knights

[Jetmaster]

I think all the speculation is getting a bit far fetched.

I would go for Josip, but don't think he would leave the Socceroos setup, at least till after the WC.

Realistically I believe it will be Merrick or Mulvey - an experienced head who knows the league ins and outs (like salary cap - OS coaches will just go "wtf"?) and can impose culture on a club.

Would not be surprised if Lawrie and Ernie are meeting over whiskey and haggis some time this week.

[furns]

I think all the speculation is getting a bit far fetched.

I would go for Josip, but don't think he would leave the Socceroos setup, at least till after the WC.

Realistically I believe it will be Merrick or Mulvey - an experienced head who knows the league ins and outs (like salary cap - OS coaches will just go "wtf"?) and can impose culture on a club.

Would not be surprised if Lawrie and Ernie are meeting over whiskey and haggis some time this week.Ernie appears the most likely scenario the more I think about it. It just depends if he actually wants it or not. And whether his time at Wellington reflects any deeper issues going on, ie is he past it now?

[Jeterpool]

Ernie appears the most likely scenario the more I think about it. It just depends if he actually wants it or not. And whether his time at Wellington reflects any deeper issues going on, ie is he past it now?

That's my fear. Can he find a way to build the team and get performances? Has be kept up with emerging use of technology, sports science, etc through further education?

As I said on the pod, Bodes swayed me. Merrick makes sense to me too, because he:
a) knows the league and it's restrictions.
b) he knows the players in the league
c) he would certainly still have contacts overseas - how did he find Roly, Rodriguez, Rossi
d) he's a " take no shit" coach.
e) he has experience winning the league and getting a team to the finals.

He was, by all accounts, contsrained financially at the Nix. A greater ability to invest int he squad and support around him could assist to implement his style. I'd suggest Lee has better resources to inject.

Not just that, his team aren't going to be travelling on a plane for a minimum of 3 hours each way every second week and alos playing 3 or 4 "home" games away from home as well. That's disruptive.

He is probably to coach we need to consolidate the club and build some structure and ****ing foundations that have not been put in place, level it out and get us playing football again before someone like a Mulvey, Pappas or someone comes in to start adding another possible dimension.

[halo se7en]

That's my fear. Can he find a way to build the team and get performances? Has be kept up with emerging use of technology, sports science, etc through further education?

As I said on the pod, Bodes swayed me. Merrick makes sense to me too, because he:
a) knows the league and it's restrictions.
b) he knows the players in the league
c) he would certainly still have contacts overseas - how did he find Roly, Rodriguez, Rossi
d) he's a " take no shit" coach.
e) he has experience winning the league and getting a team to the finals.

He was, by all accounts, contsrained financially at the Nix. A greater ability to invest int he squad and support around him could assist to implement his style. I'd suggest Lee has better resources to inject.

Not just that, his team aren't going to be travelling on a plane for a minimum of 3 hours each way every second week and alos playing 3 or 4 "home" games away from home as well. That's disruptive.

He is probably to coach we need to consolidate the club and build some structure and ****ing foundations that have not been put in place, level it out and get us playing football again before someone like a Mulvey, Pappas or someone comes in to start adding another possible dimension.

You've convinced me he's a much better option then I was considering in my head. My disappointment in Merrick would be that it feels like the club have basically done nothing in terms of recruitment. I mean if a bunch of punters on here can pick out Merrick by default as being the best ex-A-league coach available (potentially available) and everything points to him being an obvious candidate, are the club actually doing anything else to find the right candidate?

Choosing what's right in front of us by default is Jones all over again except a better calibre option. It's like signing the free agents on FIFA when you start a career with a really really shit side and just choosing the same few guys that are marginally better than what you have because it's cheap, and you don't have to waste time looking.

[Jeterpool]

You've convinced me he's a much better option then I was considering in my head. My disappointment in Merrick would be that it feels like the club have basically done nothing in terms of recruitment. I mean if a bunch of punters on here can pick out Merrick by default as being the best ex-A-league coach available (potentially available) and everything points to him being an obvious candidate, are the club actually doing anything else to find the right candidate?

Choosing what's right in front of us by default is Jones all over again except a better calibre option. It's like signing the free agents on FIFA when you start a career with a really really shit side and just choosing the same few guys that are marginally better than what you have because it's cheap, and you don't have to waste time looking.

Interesting post and slant on the Merrick optoin. You make a really intersting point.

The thing the restricts me is I don't know of a coach who would apply for the job outside the names that have been linked before that have experience. If we had the list of applicants, or until rumours of options start arising, most of us are limited to what we know.

[Jetmaster]

The issue will be avoidance of risk - McKinna knows he is on a final chance to get this right which is why I think we will go the safe option.

[MonkeyKplunk]

Merrick would also still presumably have some ties with the Chinese market through his (albeit small) time with Hong Kong.

I agree Merrick seems like the safest and most logical option at the moment, and I would like to assume McKinna would have begun to talk with him prior to the actual firing of Jones. The writing did seem on the wall for quite a few weeks prior to the end of the season.

[MFKS]

The issue will be avoidance of risk - McKinna knows he is on a final chance to get this right which is why I think we will go the safe option.

But why are we getting ourselves into a position where one bloke is deciding the manager to lead us into the future and his main worry is self preservation of his own arse??

We fail regularly because we put expectations on the club to deliver yet they don't even have strong foundations to rest on


FFS the Gypo was sprouting some BS that the next mother****er has to make the top 6 next season.

Seems to forget the squad is 2/3 full of the all conquering wooden spoon cowards who sold Jones down the river the last 2 months

FMD

[The Dunster]

Merrick would also still presumably have some ties with the Chinese market through his (albeit small) time with Hong Kong.

I agree Merrick seems like the safest and most logical option at the moment, and I would like to assume McKinna would have begun to talk with him prior to the actual firing of Jones. The writing did seem on the wall for quite a few weeks prior to the end of the season.

How is it safe to sign someone that was below the Jets on the table even though he had a much better squad to choose from ? Then take into account the injury toll the Jets were facing at the time and there's no explanation other than Merrick is finished as a coach / manager. Melbourne Victory knew it, Wellington Knew it , and I would hope the Jets CEO knows it as well.

We need to get someone high profile, who can lure in talented players willing to play for less money simply because they want to be associated with the Manager / Coach.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

What if, we signed O'Caravan & Okon.

Signed the only good player from the scum before coming to the richer city?

:sup:

[Tommyjet]

Saw martin palermo's name bandied about somewhere. Cant find the link i saw.

Also i have faith Griffo will have plenty to say in the acquisition of the next gaffa

[MonkeyKplunk]

How is it safe to sign someone that was below the Jets on the table even though he had a much better squad to choose from ? Then take into account the injury toll the Jets were facing at the time and there's no explanation other than Merrick is finished as a coach / manager. Melbourne Victory knew it, Wellington Knew it , and I would hope the Jets CEO knows it as well.

We need to get someone high profile, who can lure in talented players willing to play for less money simply because they want to be associated with the Manager / Coach.

Safe in the regard that we're simply not going to attract a more high profile coach, regardless of money, until we're in a better position as a club. Merrick would be one of the safest options of those few applicants willing to take on a wooden spoon club half full of players on contracts.

[Jetmaster]

How is it safe to sign someone that was below the Jets on the table even though he had a much better squad to choose from ? Then take into account the injury toll the Jets were facing at the time and there's no explanation other than Merrick is finished as a coach / manager. Melbourne Victory knew it, Wellington Knew it , and I would hope the Jets CEO knows it as well.

We need to get someone high profile, who can lure in talented players willing to play for less money simply because they want to be associated with the Manager / Coach.

What we want to happen and what will happen are two very different things.

Ernie resigned Felix because they were being run on the smell of an oily rag and he had little support to do things with that team - very Jets.

He will take the job only if the warchest gets opened.


Also i have faith Griffo will have plenty to say in the acquisition of the next gaffa

Can't wait to see the "Griff Out!" thread next season.

[hawk]

He was, by all accounts, contsrained financially at the Nix. A greater ability to invest int he squad and support around him could assist to implement his style. I'd suggest Lee has better resources to inject.

He didnt need anymore funds. He had a pretty good side they were capable of winning the league and he fkd it big time. Maybe it was the travel and they had no luck in the games I saw.

He does have other good features though. He does favour a direct style of play thus negating the need for good midfields = up to 7th

[MFKS]

He didnt need anymore funds. He had a pretty good side they were capable of winning the league and he fkd it big time. Maybe it was the travel and they had no luck in the games I saw.

He does have other good features though. He does favour a direct style of play thus negating the need for good midfields = up to 7th

Capable of winning the League??

What Kool aid you been drinking from today??

Same shit Parkesy was drinking from with his assertion Hoffman Hoole Mullen etc are a top 6 side??

Phoenix league winners with old man Durante and old man Finkler leading the way??

FMD

[Wilso8948]

Merrick is a no from me

[white city]

Merrick is a no from me

No from me either, he is moving into retirement.
mulvey is a no for me either.

i desperately want a foreigner. F*&k this notion coach has to know the local scene or the a-league structure. That is rubbish if he is a knowledgeable tactician and a good man manager he will succeed no mater the complexities of the salary cap. McKinna and Griffo will help with understanding the league.

[The Camel]

Get Richard Money back

[white city]

No from me either, he is moving into retirement.
mulvey is a no for me either.

i desperately want a foreigner. F*&k this notion coach has to know the local scene or the a-league structure. That is rubbish if he is a knowledgeable tactician and a good man manager he will succeed no mater the complexities of the salary cap. McKinna and Griffo will help with understanding the league.

im also an advocate of possibly spending more on the coach with class and sacrificing a bit of the cash available to a marquee

[Roundball Enthusiast]

If the Member is right, we should be spending every cent we have on players. Let them Manage themselves and we'll win the league.

Managers have little to do with the squad, or how they perform.

[#13]

Yay I finally remembered my F*^#'n password so now I can join the debate (yeah its been a very long time for me). As for outside the box coaches what about these 2 guys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Morais
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Alberto_Costa

Both have links to Ledman Liga Pro league in Portugal, both have experience in Asia with clubs in the Middle East and Japan and international level experience with national teams, have youth development experience, Alberto Costa has work with Carlos Quieroz and Morais under Jose Mourihno at Inter, Real Mardrid and Chelsea, both look to speak good level of English and with our partnership thing with Chilean side Audax Italiano the jump from Spanish to Portuguese isn't so big if we are looking at their players to come tot he Jets, both would have a excellent scouting networks (well you'd hope so) and and both are available according to Transfermarkt. Neither would command the coin of a Ranieri, Guidolin or Pardew either I suspect.

If Adelaide could do it with Gombau and later Amor why not us?....... and we could have our very own "Special One" as they're both named Jose! :grin:

[Grimario]

No way

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Yay I finally remembered my F*^#'n password so now I can join the debate (yeah its been a very long time for me). As for outside the box coaches what about these 2 guys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Morais
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Alberto_Costa

Both have links to Ledman Liga Pro league in Portugal, both have experience in Asia with clubs in the Middle East and Japan and international level experience with national teams, have youth development experience, Alberto Costa has work with Carlos Quieroz and Morais under Jose Mourihno at Inter, Real Mardrid and Chelsea, both look to speak good level of English and with our partnership thing with Chilean side Audax Italiano the jump from Spanish to Portuguese isn't so big if we are looking at their players to come tot he Jets, both would have a excellent scouting networks (well you'd hope so) and and both are available according to Transfermarkt. Neither would command the coin of a Ranieri, Guidolin or Pardew either I suspect.

If Adelaide could do it with Gombau and later Amor why not us?....... and we could have our very own "Special One" as they're both named Jose! :grin:

I'm Sold.

Make it happen.

[white city]

Yay I finally remembered my F*^#'n password so now I can join the debate (yeah its been a very long time for me). As for outside the box coaches what about these 2 guys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Morais
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Alberto_Costa

Both have links to Ledman Liga Pro league in Portugal, both have experience in Asia with clubs in the Middle East and Japan and international level experience with national teams, have youth development experience, Alberto Costa has work with Carlos Quieroz and Morais under Jose Mourihno at Inter, Real Mardrid and Chelsea, both look to speak good level of English and with our partnership thing with Chilean side Audax Italiano the jump from Spanish to Portuguese isn't so big if we are looking at their players to come tot he Jets, both would have a excellent scouting networks (well you'd hope so) and and both are available according to Transfermarkt. Neither would command the coin of a Ranieri, Guidolin or Pardew either I suspect.

If Adelaide could do it with Gombau and later Amor why not us?....... and we could have our very own "Special One" as they're both named Jose! :grin:

That is the type of calibre which brought Gombau and Amor.

i would love to see what foreigners have expressed an interest, its fairly obvious who would be the local coaches putting their names forward

[#13]

That is the type of calibre which brought Gombau and Amor.

i would love to see what foreigners have expressed an interest, its fairly obvious who would be the local coaches putting their names forward

IMHO I don't think the calibre of local coaches are available and I put Merrick, Herbert and Mulvey in that category as I feel the game is starting to leave them behind. If you look at Amor, Arnold, Aloisi, van't Schip, Popa and even Muscat and Okon, they have all played and or assistant coached under quality managers in there careers and you would think they have learned something. The likes of GVE, Stubbins and Jones have not and no wonder they were doom to fail and weren't the write coaches to take the Jets forward. Miller might have made strides but but how big is purely academic now.

I hope we don't go down the local coach path.

[white city]

IMHO I don't think the calibre of local coaches are available and I put Merrick, Herbert and Mulvey in that category as I feel the game is starting to leave them behind. If you look at Amor, Arnold, Aloisi, van't Schip, Popa and even Muscat and Okon, they have all played and or assistant coached under quality managers in there careers and you would think they have learned something. The likes of GVE, Stubbins and Jones have not and no wonder they were doom to fail and weren't the write coaches to take the Jets forward. Miller might have made strides but but how big is purely academic now.

I hope we don't go down the local coach path.

EXACTLY!! thats why i say we need european class

[foti68]

What if, we signed O'Caravan & Okon.

Signed the only good player from the scum before coming to the richer city?

:sup:

Great choice Okon did ok with the worst roster in the comp

[hawk]

Capable of winning the League??

What Kool aid you been drinking from today??

Same shit Parkesy was drinking from with his assertion Hoffman Hoole Mullen etc are a top 6 side??

Phoenix league winners with old man Durante and old man Finkler leading the way?? and I like dick

FMD

oh no, the simple a**hole tries to join discussion. jog on clueless

[furns]

Great choice Okon did ok with the worst roster in the comphe finished 1 point ahead of us

[The Camel]

That is the type of calibre which brought Gombau and Amor.

i would love to see what foreigners have expressed an interest, its fairly obvious who would be the local coaches putting their names forward

According to SBS Kewell wants it as does Teddy Sheringham and Robbie Fowler

[lquiquer]

According to SBS Kewell wants it as does Teddy Sheringham and Robbie Fowler

God (Griff) help us

[Jeterpool]

According to SBS Kewell wants it as does Teddy Sheringham and Robbie Fowler

And soon Darren Stewart will.be mentioned and the names from last time will be exhausted

[hawk]

Jones maybe offered youth role?.... fmd just clear him out already

[StannyCFCJET]

jones maybe offered youth role?.... Fmd just clear him out already

what???

[Pico]

I don't really understand this viewpoint that you need an Australian coach to understand the salary cap, that's what we have football operations staff for, and i basically view a salary cap as just being a league wide club budget, not every coach the world over is delivered a blank cheque book, everyone works to club budgets.

[plague]

Aaaahhh but you need a local coach to understand the particular fans bases intricate quirks.

For example some fans like their teams to win games.

Where as in other countries some fans like their teams to win games.

Then there are those other countries who have a much deeper footballing pedigree who's fans like their teams to win games.

See, you can't just have any foreign bozo in here trying to win games if what the fans really want is for the team to win games.

[StannyCFCJET]

Aaaahhh but you need a local coach to understand the particular fans bases intricate quirks.

For example some fans like their teams to win games.

Where as in other countries some fans like their teams to win games.

Then there are those other countries who have a much deeper footballing pedigree who's fans like their teams to win games.

See, you can't just have any foreign bozo in here trying to win games if what the fans really want is for the team to win games.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA day made Plauge :lulzturtle:

[MFKS]

Jones maybe offered youth role?.... fmd just clear him out already

This club are just like the bloke who keeps giving his ex girlfriend part of his wage each week.

She stopped putting out for him but he still paying her

Cut the strings properly.

GVE Deans and the boys club at the EJ needs to be ****ing addressed

Done nothing the lot of them

[turbojetfireV8]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4608349/jets-step-up-coach-search/?cs=3398

hmmm, how long before they finalise that shortlist?

[MonkeyKplunk]

Aaaahhh but you need a local coach to understand the particular fans bases intricate quirks.

For example some fans like their teams to win games.

Where as in other countries some fans like their teams to win games.

Then there are those other countries who have a much deeper footballing pedigree who's fans like their teams to win games.

See, you can't just have any foreign bozo in here trying to win games if what the fans really want is for the team to win games.

See that's the intricate difference with us. We're used to NOT winning games, so mediocrity is expected.

[MFKS]

See that's the intricate difference with us. We're used to NOT winning games, so mediocrity is expected.

I tallied it up the other day

In the last 3 seasons I have seen us win on 9 occasions

Considering I make 98% of home games nearly all NSW away games and have made several interstate trips that is abysmal

In that time we have won 7 games at Stade de Newy in 39 efforts

Pretty shit house really

[Jeterpool]

Jones maybe offered youth role?.... fmd just clear him out already
It's decisons like this that hold us back. Those that haven't been successful over the last 7 years are STILL around the club.

[Jeterpool]

I tallied it up the other day

In the last 3 seasons I have seen us win on 9 occasions

Considering I make 98% of home games nearly all NSW away games and have made several interstate trips that is abysmal

In that time we have won 7 games at Stade de Newy in 39 efforts

Pretty shit house really

#MemberForKeepingStats

[lquiquer]

Just heard CEO on the radio (TK and Slat) and pretty much ruled out Kewell and Fowler..... He wants experience

[MFKS]

Just heard CEO on the radio (TK and Slat) and pretty much ruled out Kewell and Fowler..... He wants experience

Same bloke who conducted a world wide search last time and found our manager his mate from Tronta??

That Gypo is full of shit

What price we get someone with no experience really at all

[white city]

Same bloke who conducted a world wide search last time and found our manager his mate from Tronta??

That Gypo is full of shit

What price we get someone with no experience really at all

i may be wrong but i think Martin will have a bigger say this time, he isnt going to just leave it with Lawrie too much at stake for him this time around!!

[westjet]

Wasnt Griff saying in the herald the other day that experience wont rule anyone out. Its a bit of a concern if the 2 people responsible for this decision are not on the same line of thinking (if they are on the same thinking at least spread a consistent message in the media).

[lquiquer]

Wasnt Griff saying in the herald the other day that experience wont rule anyone out. Its a bit of a concern if the 2 people responsible for this decision are not on the same line of thinking (if they are on the same thinking at least spread a consistent message in the media).

CEO said: By respect for Kewell and Fowler they will look at their resume, but their preference is for a more experienced coach......

[Jetmaster]

Wasnt Griff saying in the herald the other day that experience wont rule anyone out.

#Griff Out.

Read my lips - "no more rookies"!

[Grimario]

I think there is a pretty obvious candidate that has been overlooked.

He's got experience as a senior coach.
He's a former Jets legend.
He liked giving the Cove a gee up when he scored against them.
He has a shiny bald head.


RubeZ for next manager, please.

[MFKS]

I think there is a pretty obvious candidate that has been overlooked.

He's got experience as a senior coach.
He's a former Jets legend.
He liked giving the Cove a gee up when he scored against them.
He has a shiny bald head.


RubeZ for next manager, please.

6 games coaching Magic is enough of an apprenticeship

Get him in

[borat]

he finished 1 point ahead of us

Spent the salary cap floor, which as we know by reading the Herald, that money is the sole deciding factor on where a team finishes on the table

[borat]

Wonder if Gui Amor is interested. He is off contract at Adelaide and there were strong rumours earlier in the season that he was already gone. Terrible start to the season from Adelaide but one of the most consistent teams at the back end of the comp.

[Grimario]

Wonder if Gui Amor is interested. He is off contract at Adelaide and there were strong rumours earlier in the season that he was already gone. Terrible start to the season from Adelaide but one of the most consistent teams at the back end of the comp.
Consistency isn't our issue. We were consistently shit. We need to be good and then be consistently good.

[Frodo]

Took this from another thread.


There are plenty of top quality managers currently off contract that the Jets could approach - who would most likely never apply for the position.

Roberto Mancini,Laurent Blanc, Andrea Mandorlini, Rémi Garde,Cesare Prandelli, Paolo Di Canio, Frank de Boer...

You can apply for a position and not get it or you can be asked if you want a job without applying for it and politely decline the offer.
By not approaching some of the talent in Europe that is off contract the club is never going to know if these guys are interested or not.
These guys would not take the risk to their reputations of applying for a position at a lesser league only to be turned down.
If however, they were offered the job without having to apply it would be a lot more encouraging to them and the choice would be theirs meaning no risk to their reputations.
They could essentially talk it up as them taking on a challenge to develop the game in Australia and about adding an ACL trophy to their list of achievements.

But if the club simply leave it up to these top quality guys to apply it's simply never going to happen.

No doubt they would probably all turn the offer down if we made it as well - but at least we tried.

At the very least though the club should get one of this lot in as a consultant to tell us what we need player wise and so on.


Dunster, why are you wasting time looking into coaches on wages that gulf our entire playing squad? Mancini is on around 4 Million Euros a year, approx $6 Million a season AUD. Blanc would be on the same if not more when he was at PSG. None of those coaches have tarnished their careers enough to drop down to our level and none of them are young enough to need the step up. If they have coached in the EPL, the Champions League, Europa League or World Cup in the last 10 years than they won't be coming here. Sorry to ruin your Football Manager dreams but asking Scarlett Johansson to dinner does increase your chances of having sex with her but it still isn't going to happen.

[Frodo]

What about Mirko Jelicic?

Has won the Uzbekistan league and wants to coach the Aus national team at some point.

[Frodo]

Can we get Aurelio Vidmar back from Bangkok? He can bring their Costa Rican Striker with him, Ariel Rodriguez, who's bagged a few goals in both the Thai league and the Costa Rican league. Don't care about the Striker but Vidmar has enough ticks on his resume to be in the mix.

[MonkeyKplunk]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/liverpool-legend-robbie-fowler-joins-other-big-names-on-newcastle-jets-coaching-contenders-list/news-story/b896cbed027f6467d02433a5cc41122f

Robbie Fowler in the mix.

Griff - “We can’t afford to get this wrong,” Griffiths told SBS.

“People’s jobs are on the line. Mine is and the same with Lawrie.

“With Harry, he’d bring plenty of headlines and he has a great playing pedigree. I don’t know so much about his coaching pedigree.”

[borat]

What about Mirko Jelicic?

Has won the Uzbekistan league and wants to coach the Aus national team at some point.

He is an assistant coach in Uzebekistan yeah?

[Frodo]

Robbie Fowler is as bad a choice as Kewell. I would honestly struggle to show up to games with either these 2 Muppets in charge. I would rather have McKinna take over as coach.

[Frodo]

He is an assistant coach in Uzebekistan yeah?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lokomotiv_Tashkent_FK

I think he is head coach now.

[Frodo]

Lokomotiv made it to the Quarter Finals of the ACL as well.

[The Dunster]

Took this from another thread.




Dunster, why are you wasting time looking into coaches on wages that gulf our entire playing squad? Mancini is on around 4 Million Euros a year, approx $6 Million a season AUD. Blanc would be on the same if not more when he was at PSG. None of those coaches have tarnished their careers enough to drop down to our level and none of them are young enough to need the step up. If they have coached in the EPL, the Champions League, Europa League or World Cup in the last 10 years than they won't be coming here. Sorry to ruin your Football Manager dreams but asking Scarlett Johansson to dinner does increase your chances of having sex with her but it still isn't going to happen.

I agree with you 100%. But the clubs not even looking at managers in the group immediately below them. We should at least be seeking some kind of audit / assessment of the players we have by someone with that type of pedigree.

[The Camel]

I agree with you 100%. But the clubs not even looking at managers in the group immediately below them. We should at least be seeking some kind of audit / assessment of the players we have by someone with that type of pedigree.

Says in the Herald that the Jets are approaching the FFA to see if they can approach Gombau and Ante Milicic so it seems they are not just relying on whoever applies.

[The Dunster]

Says in the Herald that the Jets are approaching the FFA to see if they can approach Gombau and Ante Milicic so it seems they are not just relying on whoever applies.

This is good news.

[hawk]

Robbie Fowler is as bad a choice as Kewell. I would honestly struggle to show up to games with either these 2 Muppets in charge. I would rather have McKinna take over as coach.

They are most unlikely but IF they did a good job you should support them. I don't care who we get as long as they are effective.

[Bon]

but asking Scarlett Johansson to dinner does increase your chances of having sex with her but it still isn't going to happen.

So what you are saying is, that I have a chance with her?????
:wub:

[white city]

Lokomotiv made it to the Quarter Finals of the ACL as well.

i would be happy with this. has progressed through the ranks and succeeded.

and has worked under some of the best international managers in Sven Goran Eriksen and Bora Milutinovic

[MFKS]

Can we get Aurelio Vidmar back from Bangkok? He can bring their Costa Rican Striker with him, Ariel Rodriguez, who's bagged a few goals in both the Thai league and the Costa Rican league. Don't care about the Striker but Vidmar has enough ticks on his resume to be in the mix.

Called Adelaide a piss ant town

Wonder what he would say of Newy

[Frodo]

Called Adelaide a piss ant town

Wonder what he would say of Newy

I figured you'd be impressed by his Mongrel.

[The Dunster]

So what you are saying is, that I have a chance with her?????
:wub:

She had a guy jailed for ten years because he posted nude pics of her on the internet. They should have given the bloke a Knighthood not a jail sentence.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I figured you'd be impressed by his Mongrel.

:lulzturtle: :lulzturtle: :lulzturtle:

[MFKS]

She had a guy jailed for ten years because he posted nude pics of her on the internet. They should have given the bloke a Knighthood not a jail sentence.

I wonder how many have googled Scarlett Johansson Nude pics today thanks to you bringing this to attention

[stopper2]

Gombau may yet be on the cards.
Watch this space.

[#13]

Geeeezzzzz..... please not Fowler or Kewell

[Bon]

I wonder how many have googled Scarlett Johansson Nude pics today thanks to you bringing this to attention

It will give you a serious mongrel..

[Couscous]

Gombau may yet be on the cards.
Watch this space.

Is this stopper bloke ITK?

I've heard that two current Jets staff will be considered.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Bring in a coach who we trust for 2 years minimum.
We need to stick by somebody for longer than a season.
That said, if you can't make the finals in league that rewards mediocrity almost as much as AFL does with a point for trying, then some questions need to be asked. Review things, and make a decision on whether progress has been made.
Really, should still be better than CCM and Wellington.
We are fighting it out with Adelaide, Perth and wanderers for 2 finals spots. That's the level we can expect to be at next year with a few signings and a coach that can well...coach.
If we can reach the finals, i dare say that will please a lot of people, and is a reasonable expectation. Wanderers sucked big time this year and managed to make the finals with a few wins in the last 10 games.
I don't really have a preference who. But finals should be a pass mark for season 1 and 2 in charge. Anything less is a fail and should be reviewed. Another 2 years without finals and I honestly think the club could fold. Supporters have had enough. Lee had a 3 year plan for ACL and if he spends millions and still can't make the top 60% I think he could just take his money and run.

[RAM]

What about Mirko Jelicic?

Has won the Uzbekistan league and wants to coach the Aus national team at some point.

Now that's a good idea.

An actual coach that might not break the bank, with ACL pedigree.

Too logical for us.

We'll sign Fowler or Kewell or finish our worldwide search by signing the interim coach, Zane.

Whole club is ****ed.

[MFKS]

Gombau may yet be on the cards.
Watch this space.

Gombau??

That bloke ever won a ****ing thing of note??

I not talking about the Hong Kong league either

Why the wood for a bloke who delivers football that doesn't win ??

[Bon]

Why the wood for a bloke who delivers football that doesn't win ??

This is the exact question we have been asking you ALL year.. haha

[belchardo]

Is this stopper bloke ITK?

I've heard that two current Jets staff will be considered.

hopefully only in the sense that "we'll give them a look in since they're already involved, but we all know that have no chance"

[WolfMan]

Gombau??

That bloke ever won a ****ing thing of note??

I not talking about the Hong Kong league either

Why the wood for a bloke who delivers football that doesn't win ??


I'm gonna say it - Gombau doesn't excite me.

I don't believe he would be a good fit

Taken from another thread - seems as though the dishonourable Member agrees with me.

I'm scared

[Jeterpool]

This is the exact question we have been asking you ALL year.. haha

Take that! :rof:

[PC14]

Why the wood for a bloke who delivers football that doesn't win ??

Oh the irony!

[Roundball Enthusiast]

This is the exact question we have been asking you ALL year.. haha

:rof: :thumbsup:

[380]

Is this stopper bloke ITK?

I've heard that two current Jets staff will be considered.

You looking for another crack Gaz ?.

[steve136]

This is the exact question we have been asking you ALL year.. haha

:rof:

[MFKS]

This is the exact question we have been asking you ALL year.. haha

Wood??

I never had wood for Jones.

Just of the opinion we should have backed the bloke and showed some patience

It was not all doom and gloom

Just 6 weeks of shite at the end

[StannyCFCJET]

Wood??

I never had wood for Jones.

Just of the opinion we should have backed the bloke and showed some patience

It was not all doom and gloom

Just 6 weeks of shite at the end

Umm what??? Yes you did haha

[borat]

Wood??

I never had wood for Jones.

Just of the opinion we should have backed the bloke and showed some patience

It was not all doom and gloom

Just 6 weeks of shite at the end


Bahahahahahahaha

Oh man you must have convincing yourself that after months of fapping posts on this forum about how wonderful Jones football was.

[MFKS]

Bahahahahahahaha

Oh man you must have convincing yourself that after months of fapping posts on this forum about how wonderful Jones football was.

Nope the bloke laughing here is me and a few others following at home

How little you know

[#13]

What about Mirko Jelicic?

Has won the Uzbekistan league and wants to coach the Aus national team at some point.

I like this guy. Should make a play for him.

[hawk]

Nope the bloke laughing here is me and a few others following at home

How little you know

They're all laughing at you. They all arent silly. Its over dude. Jones is a dick.

[MFKS]

They're all laughing at you. They all arent silly. Its over dude. Jones is a dick.

Nope

I still laughing the most

Pretty confident of that

A couple of people who are on here will know exactly what I talking about

Keep living the dream ...

5
5
5

[hawk]

Nope

Im still wanking the most

Pretty confident of that

A couple of people who are on here will know exactly what I talking about

Keep living the dream ...

You sound like that other mong john Laws. Brothers?

[halo se7en]

Nope

I still laughing the most

Pretty confident of that

A couple of people who are on here will know exactly what I talking about

Keep living the dream ...

5
5
5

Shock horror, you were trolling everyone all season. That's pretty ****ing sad tbh.

[MFKS]

Shock horror, you were trolling everyone all season. That's pretty ****ing sad tbh.

Nah not really

All I did was actually give Jones some slack as he came in at last minute and had no assistance in the transfer market from above and was giving a pile of shit players by the last manager.

All I done was stuck to that line of thought.

It was blokes like yourself who got yourselves wound up into a frenzy as soon as anyone offered any opinion on Jones that didn't fit into your narrative that he stole Christmas as your Messiah Millertime was given the arse to accommodate Jones

I didn't really have to do much at all. It was blokes like yourself who claimed I was Jones relative/ love child etc

All because I actually backed off given the bloke a spray if things went bad as I had accepted this season as a total right off from the minute Miller got the arse.

It has been interesting though watching your lynch mob actually gather pace and expose the weak attitude that exists in the club.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Just nature that when somebody believes/advocates a point of view, it attracts people who are wanting to understand, argue and or bring that theory down.
The fact you were seemingly so oblivious and one sided was something that most people took offence to.
People discovered a sense of hypocrisy in your defence of an underperforming coach and unwavering defence and absolution of all blame for the clubs poor performance.
Seeking to retain a coach who delivered us a wooden spoon and was on a downward trajectory rather than showing signs of improvement.
You are obviously passionate about the club and for years have been quite objectively harsh on the clubs administration, players and coaches. Yet this guy, seemed to get a reprieve for reasons nobody could understand.
Don't pretend like you're the bigger person for not engaging in this "weak attitude". You'd struggle to find a constructive positive post of yours.
Each to their own. That's the joy of a forum right? Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

[The Dunster]

Just nature that when somebody believes/advocates a point of view, it attracts people who are wanting to understand, argue and or bring that theory down.
The fact you were seemingly so oblivious and one sided was something that most people took offence to.
People discovered a sense of hypocrisy in your defence of an underperforming coach and unwavering defence and absolution of all blame for the clubs poor performance.
Seeking to retain a coach who delivered us a wooden spoon and was on a downward trajectory rather than showing signs of improvement.
You are obviously passionate about the club and for years have been quite objectively harsh on the clubs administration, players and coaches. Yet this guy, seemed to get a reprieve for reasons nobody could understand.
Don't pretend like you're the bigger person for not engaging in this "weak attitude". You'd struggle to find a constructive positive post of yours.
Each to their own. That's the joy of a forum right? Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

When players make mistakes one on one in defence and fail to put chances in the back of the net in attack you need to draw a long bow to say that it was the coaches fault.
When the coach fails to utilise their bench effectively it's also unreasonable to pin a loss solely on the efforts of the players.
The facts are that everyone failed to get the job done. Not just the coaches or the players - Everyone.
To simply blame Jones or just the playing group is not going to get this club out of the shit.
It's going to take a lot of money and a lot of new faces.

[Couscous]

Interesting poll on the Herald website.
Give it a go:

http://i.imgur.com/PcNrWyA.jpg

[MFKS]

Just nature that when somebody believes/advocates a point of view, it attracts people who are wanting to understand, argue and or bring that theory down.
The fact you were seemingly so oblivious and one sided was something that most people took offence to.
People discovered a sense of hypocrisy in your defence of an underperforming coach and unwavering defence and absolution of all blame for the clubs poor performance.
Seeking to retain a coach who delivered us a wooden spoon and was on a downward trajectory rather than showing signs of improvement.
You are obviously passionate about the club and for years have been quite objectively harsh on the clubs administration, players and coaches. Yet this guy, seemed to get a reprieve for reasons nobody could understand.
Don't pretend like you're the bigger person for not engaging in this "weak attitude". You'd struggle to find a constructive positive post of yours.
Each to their own. That's the joy of a forum right? Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

Nah I not taking any moral high ground here

I stated my position it was down to the other Miller Sycophants their response.

It was like fish jumping into the boat for me

They took what I said however they liked to suit their agenda and ran with it. Maybe they should actually spend a bit more time reading what is said and not going off half cocked so quickly


On a real serious note it has been interesting to observe the lack of levels of patience amongst Jets fans the last 2 months

Fans really lost the plot with the reality of things.

We were just a poor side with a novice coach falling in an end of season hole and the fans just lost the plot over something that to be perfectly wasn't the greatest surprise

[The Dunster]

Interesting poll on the Herald website.
Give it a go:

http://i.imgur.com/PcNrWyA.jpg

There's no Slobs option so it's not a valid poll.

[hawk]

Nah I not taking any moral high ground here

I stated my position it was down to the other Miller Sycophants their response.

It was like fish jumping into my ass hmmmm

They took what I said however they liked to suit their agenda and ran with it. Maybe they should actually spend a bit more time reading what is said and not going off half cocked so quickly


On a real serious note it has been interesting to observe the lack of levels of patience amongst Jets fans the last 2 months

Fans really lost the plot with the reality of things.


wrong again

[borat]

Nah I not taking any moral high ground here

I stated my position it was down to the other Miller Sycophants their response.

It was like fish jumping into the boat for me

They took what I said however they liked to suit their agenda and ran with it. Maybe they should actually spend a bit more time reading what is said and not going off half cocked so quickly


On a real serious note it has been interesting to observe the lack of levels of patience amongst Jets fans the last 2 months

Fans really lost the plot with the reality of things.

We were just a poor side with a novice coach falling in an end of season hole and the fans just lost the plot over something that to be perfectly wasn't the greatest surprise

Or

You have NFI what constitutes decent football and hung your shingle to the worst coach ever to grace this club. Plain for anyone who has any idea what they are talking about.

The whole I was just trolling......#sad......so so sad.

[GazFish35]

This place still stinks worse than the shitters at Ray Watt

[turbojetfireV8]

The Jones lovefest is enough to make ya wanna barf, but the Miller hate is a bit of a larf - in his short stint Miller showed himself to be a better man manager than Jones in overall results last season with a 'not my team' squad, and had decent hit-outs preseason which showed the form the team was capable of - in contrast at the business end of the season Jones somehow managed to throw any headway the team had made away to end up with a Stubbins-like squad mentality and another spoon. That's not just a fail like Miller not getting us into the top six, that's more like a Costa Concordia epic fail sinking a perfectly good ship and pretending Jones had no control over it coz even though he was running the show anything that happens while he was at the helm isn't his fault, right, even though he was steering it at the time? :facepalm:

[turbojetfireV8]

Another one re coach speculation:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4614734/jets-see-value-in-local-knowledge/?cs=306

[plague]

in his short stint Miller showed himself to be a better man manager than Jones

Are you sure about this?

Because I'm sure (especially at the start of the year) that Miller had no dramas throwing his players under the bus after a poor performance.

Questions could also be asked if we saw the best of Milos and Leo, and it seemed like the players didn't exactly lose their voices praising the coach like you hear about Amour, Gombau, Muscat etc.


It might be me remembering things differently but I'd love to see some evidence that you based that statement on.

[belchardo]

Another one re coach speculation:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4614734/jets-see-value-in-local-knowledge/?cs=306

isn't local knowledge what Griffo, gypo, zane etc are supposed to give us? ffs, I want a coach that can just do the bloody job!

[Jetmaster]

Going exactly how most of us expected - ignore the media fluff about Kewell, Pardew etc etc.

We will play it safe and really that is what needs to happen right now.

[MFKS]

Going exactly how most of us expected - ignore the media fluff about Kewell, Pardew etc etc.

We will play it safe and really that is what needs to happen right now.

There's playing it safe and us though

How about a left field call

Popovic

I know he under contract etc

But 5 years at WSW now maybe things going stale

Change of scenery ??

New challenge etc??

[Jeterpool]

There's playing it safe and us though

How about a left field call

Popovic

I know he under contract etc

But 5 years at WSW now maybe things going stale

Change of scenery ??

New challenge etc??

Half his outcasts are here :rof:

But seriously, it's an intresting shout but I think Tony would look to Asia or Europe with a next move - one he should have made while his stocks were high.

[MFKS]

Half his outcasts are here :rof:

But seriously, it's an intresting shout but I think Tony would look to Asia or Europe with a next move - one he should have made while his stocks were high.

Maybe that where we need to also look at.

Poaching a rival clubs manager

Take Okon or Kenny Lowe or some other clubs manager who knows the league as long as it ain't that Valkanis fraud I be happy

[Guerny]

I'd take Okon in a heartbeat:
- ex jets player
- knows newcastle
- is used to working with other teams rejects
- has done good things with mariners (less longball this season)
- would be another knife into the gypos (after taking their striker).

[Jetmaster]

Valkanis will be available. I also think Poppa will head o/s again.

Christ, Ange might be available in June!

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Valkanis will be available. I also think Poppa will head o/s again.

Christ, Ange might be available in June!

Ehh, anges main reason for resigning is to look at europe.

[Jetmaster]

Ehh, anges main reason for resigning is to look at europe.

Was thinking of the small chance of being sacked should we lose to Saudi.

[StannyCFCJET]

Going exactly how most of us expected - ignore the media fluff about Kewell, Pardew etc etc.

We will play it safe and really that is what needs to happen right now.

Mark Jones was playing it safe and look how that went

[Jeterpool]

Mark Jones was playing it safe and look how that went

I'd like to know how Jones was playing it safe?

[StannyCFCJET]

I'd like to know how Jones was playing it safe?

A League seasoned assistant Coach. Been around the A League for a while "gets the Newcastle area/locals and whatnot" If he fails well didnt pay too much to bring him in and no one is surpised, If he does well its seen as a masterstroke by Ledman group. They couldve gone big or taken longer to appoint one with Zane as the Caretaker but they went for someone who already knew the Jets and alot of the players. This is just my opinion but.

[turbojetfireV8]

Are you sure about this?

Because I'm sure (especially at the start of the year) that Miller had no dramas throwing his players under the bus after a poor performance.

Questions could also be asked if we saw the best of Milos and Leo, and it seemed like the players didn't exactly lose their voices praising the coach like you hear about Amour, Gombau, Muscat etc.


It might be me remembering things differently but I'd love to see some evidence that you based that statement on.

They were shaky at times under Miller but never actually capitulated into the steaming hot grogan they were by the end of this season, despite him having a go at a few of them underperforming - was there something more to how Jones went about it? They also refused to play under Trani after Miller got the ass so that at least on the surface appeared to have something to do with loyalty, as opposed to the so long and thanks for all the fish Jones' departure seemed to warrant, there was no feeling they were upset, very little was said that didn't sound diplomatic...

[turbojetfireV8]

I should add I don't think Miller's season was a massive success, we failed to make the six, but there was a different attitude, something went horribly wrong this season, the team went backwards quite dramatically, I just have serious reservations about how Jones was managing them including between their ears, I honestly don't think they gave a shit he got sacked and ya wonder if some of them may have been relieved he was?