17/18 HAL Round 09 | Newcastle Jets v Melbourne City| Sat 2nd Dec 2017 7:50pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2017/18 Round 9 Newcastle Jets v Melbourne City

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 21 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 9, City Wins - 9, Drawn - 3


In Newcastle – 11 matches.
Jets Wins - 7, City Wins - 3, Drawn - 1
In Melbourne - 10 matches
Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 6, Drawn - 2

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9494
Average Away A-League Crowd - 7197

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 31, City - 41
In Newcastle -
Jets – 19, City - 17

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 10, City - 11

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 62 (61 yellow, 1 red), City 35 (33 yellow, 2 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - WDWLW (10 point from last 15)
City - WLDLL (4 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Roy O'Donovan (7)
City – Ross McCormack (5)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (Nabbout 14', Nabbout 52') - Melbourne City 1 (Fornaroli 69' pen) at Coffs International Stadium, A-League, Round 17, Season 2016/17

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2016/17 Round 17

Newcastle JetsMelbourne City
Jack DuncanDean Bouzanis
Jason HoffmanIvan Franjic
Lachlan JacksonMichael Jakobsen
Nigel BoogaardOsama Malik
Daniel MullenJoshua Rose
Mateo PoljakNeil Kilkenny
Steven UgarkovicLuke Brattan
Ma LeileiTim Cahill
Andrew HooleBruce Kamau
Andrew NabboutBruno Fornaroli
Morten NordstrandNicolas Colazo




FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015 & Jets 0 - City 4 (Mooy 43', Fornaroli 56', Mooy 59', Fornaroli 62') at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 10, 13/12/15

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
City - Bruno Fornaroli (8)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Jack Duncan77006300000
3Jason Hoffman54114090120
4Nigel Boogaard88007200010
5Ben Kantarovski88027132020
6Steven Ugarkovic88027100010
7Dimitri Petratos88027104300
8Ronald Vargas33031970100
9Roy O'Donovan66005407130
10Wayne Brown62422050010
12Mario Shabow3030370010
13Ivan Vujica88017110240
15Andrew Nabbout88056664420
16Nick Cowburn50501040000
17Daniel Georgievski66033931030
18John Koutroumbis2020130000
19Kosta Petratos2020190000
20Glen Moss1100900000
21Daniel Alessi000000000
22Lachlan Jackson2020130000
23Devante Clut000000000
24Joe Champness83533202110
29Jake Adelson000000000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley88007200010



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Warren Joyce - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 0 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = N/A% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)





TALKING POINTS:


General

The Jets have scored in 8 consecutive matches - the second longest streak in the club's history. The current record is between Round 8 and 17 in 2006/07, the first 10 matches of Gary van Egmond's reign a coach.
There have been 35 goals scored in this fixture over the last 3 seasons. An average of just under 4 goals per game.
The Jets have currently gained 17 points from their last 10 matches, the highest number of points since December 29th 2013.
The last 7 results in this fixture for the Jets have read Loss, Win, Loss, Win, Loss, Win, Loss.
The Jets have the chance to win 3 home matches in a row for the first time since October 2011.



Key Stats from Previous Round

The 17 points achieved after 8 rounds equals the total earned in Season 2014/15 and 1 point behind the total earned last year.
45% of the goals conceded by the Jets have come in the opening 15 minutes, 78% have been conceded in the 1st half.
It was the 4th time in Jets history they have won a match without any Visa players in the team.
The Jets have earned 11 points coming from behind this season, the most of ANY season in their history.
The Jets have earned 4 points more after 8 rounds than any other season in thier history.
Last week against Victory, the Jets ended a match with the greater share of possession for the first time this season.



Players

Glen Moss is player 158 to appear for the club.
Daniel Georgievski became the 75th player to score for the Newcastle Jets.
Nigel Boogaard will make his 50th apperance for the Jets this weekend.
Andrew Nabbout is now 7th on the overall goals scored list for the Jets with 12 goals. He's equal with Michael Bridges.
Dimi Petratos is averaging a goal or assist every 101 minutes of play this season.



Newcastle Jets

Ernie Merrick, with 63% , currently has the second highest win percentage in Jets history - behind Craig Deans with 67%.
Two players have scored the last 7 goals for the Jets in this fixture - Milos Trifunovic and Andrew Nabbout.
Glen Moss is just the 10th goalkeeper to take the field for the Jets.
Ivan Vujica is 1 yellow card from a 1 week suspension.
There have been 21 players appear for the Jets so far this season.



Melbourne City

Bruno Fornaroli, who will miss this fixture, has scored in 5 consecutive matches against the Jets.
City will be without Osama Malik, who is suspended for the fixture.
Ross McCormack has scored half of City's goals this season.
City will play in Newcastle for the fist time since early February 2016. The Jets last home game against City was played in Coffs Harbour

[plague]

downfall starts this week.
no chance.
Has BK got a release clause?

[belchardo]

didn't realise fornaroli was still around.

plague did you miss that stat about dimi?

[hawk]

satdee game. might go alrite if we have bon fires and a great orator willing everyone to get stuck into the citeh

[plague]

plague did you miss that stat about dimi?

the only true and real stat is that Nabbout has played 666 minutes which is a fitting tribute to Malcolm Youngs passing last week.

rock on

[Jetmaster]

Rain band coming through Saturday....small crowd with game on FTA probably and unfortunately.

[MFKS]

Plastics out in force Saturday

[hawk]

Plastics out in force Saturday

stay away from direct sunlight. it be hot and melting

[Cunning stunts]

This weekend will be another good test with our depth

i wouldnt be surprised to see the team as the below

Moss

Cowburn
Toppa
Boogs
Ivan

Kanta
Urg

Brown
Dimi
Champ

Nab

[Mark325]

This weekend will be another good test with our depth

i wouldnt be surprised to see the team as the below

Moss

Cowburn
Toppa
Boogs
Ivan

Kanta
Urg

Brown
Dimi
Champ

Nab

I could see shabow getting a start over brown, ernie seems to be a big fan of his

[Jeterpool]

I could see shabow getting a start over brown, ernie seems to be a big fan of his

So can I. Shabow linked really well with Dimi in the middle of the park and provided another attacking option. With Cowburn the likely choice to play right back, I can see Shabow playing because Cowburn can overlap.

[Couscous]

Has Brown ever played wide for us?

[Jeterpool]

Yes. A few times. The last time a few weeks ago.

[Mark325]

We need to get away from the idea of playing brown in attacking positions. If we're gonna start using him have him come on for ugar or kanta

[belchardo]

would like to see joey up front, nabbs out wide.

[Tommyjet]

Brown is out too I think

[StannyCFCJET]

We need to get away from the idea of playing brown in attacking positions. If we're gonna start using him have him come on for ugar or kanta

Cant agree more

[The Camel]

We need to get away from the idea of playing brown.

Fixed

[turbojetfireV8]

I could see shabow getting a start over brown, ernie seems to be a big fan of his

have to be careful though with him, not sure if he wasn't quite 100% after the loss of his Dad but I thought he was getting muscled off the ball a bit last match, he got beat a few times there

[WolfMan]

have to be careful though with him, not sure if he wasn't quite 100% after the loss of his Dad but I thought he was getting muscled off the ball a bit last match, he got beat a few times there

I'd say that's more about his stature and frame than his state of mind. Sometimes, getting back to work can be the best thing to cope with loss (as long as you have actually dealt with the loss beforehand and not just ignored it)

[goaliepersempre]

950am kickoff over here.. On the last home game of the season day before the winter break... Might head to the pub and watch....

[Jeterpool]

I'm really interested this weekend to see how we match up against a Back 3.

No other team has strayed from the cirriculum, sorry, plays a different formation from 4231/433 in the league so I wonder how that will match up?

[lil_masi]

Koutrumbis in for cowburn. Out with knee injury

[The Dunster]

Koutrumbis in for cowburn. Out with knee injury

How long do they expect him out ? Hopefully for his sake it's nothing too serious.

[lil_masi]

How long do they expect him out ? Hopefully for his sake it's nothing too serious.

Jimmy Gardner said its pretty swollen, waiting on scans.

[Mark325]

Rough trot for Daniel alessi who is a rb and not getting a look in

[MFKS]

I'm really interested this weekend to see how we match up against a Back 3.

No other team has strayed from the cirriculum, sorry, plays a different formation from 4231/433 in the league so I wonder how that will match up?

I reckon with Ronny Roy and co available we kill it

I reckon without them we will still do well

There is space to exploit in a back 3 and the way we attacking this season the opportunity arises then even more for us

[Jetmaster]

Such a shame that with these big games over the last few weeks we don't have a full strength team.

If we win this as we are we must be seriously considered as a major threat with artillery to return.

[MFKS]

Such a shame that with these big games over the last few weeks we don't have a full strength team.

If we win this as we are we must be seriously considered as a major threat with artillery to return.

According to who??

Dumb ****s who don't watch the HAL or can't get out of their Sydney/Melbourne biased etc

We already are a threat

We actually are
THE THREAT

Win lose or draw tomorrow night

Cunce should feel fear about playing us

[plague]

According to who??

Dumb ****s who don't watch the HAL or can't get out of their Sydney/Melbourne biased etc

We already are a threat

We actually are
THE THREAT

Win lose or draw tomorrow night

Cunce should feel fear about playing us

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/knocks_breaking_bad.gif

[WolfMan]

MFKS is correct.

Bernie Skerrick has to turn the losing mindset around, we are towards the pointy end of the table for a reason. We deserve it based on our play.

It’s not lucky, the players shouldn’t be waiting for the other shoe to drop (although as a fan, I admit I am still wary). Confidence must and by all rights should be high.

[turbojetfireV8]

Koutrumbis in for cowburn. Out with knee injury

Clut's tackle I assume?

[Jetmaster]

According to who?

The general football media....last Saturday after Sydney won the they showed the ladder and said "Sydney are now two wins clear of Melbourne City".

No mention of us at all...we are not on the radar of the big media just yet. We, like the Mariners are a feel good story.

[belchardo]

with the danger of slipping into captain obvious territory, tonight really does seem to me to be a critical match. win, we keep the pressure on sydney and also move two games clear of city. a loss isn't a disaster (we can't move out of second this week), but it gives sydney some space and puts city on our heels.

[MFKS]

with the danger of slipping into captain obvious territory, tonight really does seem to me to be a critical match. win, we keep the pressure on sydney and also move two games clear of city. a loss isn't a disaster (we can't move out of second this week), but it gives sydney some space and puts city on our heels.

Pressure is on the opposition

Lose tonight and they are a long way off the pace

We going to be playing at home tonight before a big crowd
cheering us on

Pressure is all on them

[Jetmaster]

Pressure is on the opposition

Lose tonight and they are a long way off the pace

We going to be playing at home tonight before a big crowd
cheering us on

Pressure is all on them

Big crowd bit is gone - getting calls all day from mates not going "cos its gunna storm"....wusses.

[MFKS]

Big crowd bit is gone - getting calls all day from mates not going "cos its gunna storm"....wusses.

Yeah but the puddle is a possibility of making an appearance for us again

Hey Jeterpool. In the lists of Jets stats you keep where the Puddle sit behind Griff obviously???

[plague]

Big crowd bit is gone - getting calls all day from mates not going "cos its gunna storm"....wusses.

im not going because its not wet enough.

hashtagwhatstheoppositeofplastic

[belchardo]

god bozza is a dick some time.

pre-game conversation roughly went:

peacock: "how good are newcastle going?"
bozza: "well you know sydney have been going really well, but apart from them, newcastle are doing ok"

:facepalm:

[The Dunster]

I'm on the lounge with an espresso watching the game on a 65" OLED. Lifes good.

[Couscous]

Looking good. Even Hoff.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQBnf3jUMAATRL8.jpg

[plague]

get.
boogaard.
off.

[Couscous]

I take that back. Hoff is a dill.

[Couscous]

Who's the City keeper? Team sheet says Galekovic but unless he's suddenly 10 years younger there's no way it's him.

[Couscous]

Oh, it's Bouzanis. Galekovic injured during warm-up.

[The Dunster]

City holding on for their lives.

[MFKS]

Some **** take the keeper out FFS

It should be 9-0 by now

[MFKS]

**** WE ARE GOOD

I loving this shit

[The Dunster]

Bouzanis on fire eith a few great saves

[Hunter403]

Pardon the pun but Bouzanis is the only thing keeping them in it right now

[plague]

sucker punch goals been the order of the weekend so far.

we will lose.

[Hunter403]

City look tired

[belchardo]

i continue to be amazed that players that i wouldn't have trusted to pass a ball accurately from 1m away last year are now nailing one touch passes over 25m under pressure.

in that category i put:
kanta
boogs
topor
hoff

[belchardo]

2nd game in a row without a visa player?

[Couscous]

We're pretty good.

[Hunter403]

I think if we score before half time City might crumble. They're offering **** all

[belchardo]

I think if we score before half time City might crumble. They're offering **** all

could be. but until we score....

scrap that. we just did!

[Hunter403]

That's been coming!!!!

[belchardo]

great assist by the heart player

[The Dunster]

Yesssssssss. Nabbout

[belchardo]

i'll take another 2 goals and then we can start playing some more of that sexy-time football we were banging out in the first 20.

[plague]

the Ugabooga man is just hanging around in centre mid all like, "yeah ima run at you but if you get the ball past me Kanta gonna kill ya so good luck".

Heart arent even trying to go through the guts with the talent they have.

Scott Jamieson is their outlet.

goodness me that is garbage coaching.

[belchardo]

boogard.

[belchardo]

I think if we score before half time City might crumble. They're offering **** all

i blame you.

and boogard.

[MFKS]

Hey Plague

He was ****ing over due

****ing liability

[The Dunster]

Shit effort from Boogs - the ball was passed McCormack

[belchardo]

if we're playing this well before half time, imagine how well we'll play after ernie's half time bake!

[Hunter403]

i blame you.

and boogard.

All boogs that one. City are crap

[westjet]

The amount of penalty takers who kick straight down the middle these days I really think keepers should stay centred rather than dive more frequently. Bring back bk. No dive would of saved that.

[plague]

Hey Plague

He was ****ing over due

****ing liability

just like the dealer hitting blackjack mate. you know its coming, its happened 1000 times before, but you still shake your head.

[plague]

The amount of penalty takers who kick straight down the middle these days I really think keepers should stay centred rather than dive more frequently. Bring back bk. No dive would of saved that.

5 star post, the bloke was a man before his time.

shame he retired.

[The Dunster]

City doing a lot better this half.

[MFKS]

if we're playing this well before half time, imagine how well we'll play after ernie's half time bake!

Been abysmal this half really

[Hunter403]

Damn we've started this half poorly

[belchardo]

maybe we only have one good half a game...

[The Dunster]

Grandpa Cahill about to come on

[Retro Jet]

Bring back the rain.
Puddle was warming up there for a few moments of deluge.

[MFKS]

Grandpa Cahill about to come on

Might bring us into the game again

[The Dunster]

Boogs is tracking too far forward. Big worry.

[Hunter403]

Jets need a managerial bollocking to wake them up

[The Dunster]

Lot of young kids out there so big ask to perform every week

[The Dunster]

****ing hell hoff

[Hunter403]

Has Dimi touched the ball this half?

[MFKS]

Hoffman FFS

That 2 attacks he has crippled just by falling over for no reason

[Retro Jet]

Hoff, Hoff,
Get him off.

Thought he did ok 1st half.

[MFKS]

Lot of young kids out there so big ask to perform every week

Hoffman Boogaard Topor Kanta Moss

1/2 the team have been playing at this level for 10 plus years FFS

[The Dunster]

City getting away with some grubby challenges

[belchardo]

i don't think this is going to be our night.

and is anybody else willing to join me in crowning uga as the new zads? every time he gets on a long range shot you know it's ending up in the crowd.

[Retro Jet]

City getting away with some grubby challenges

Any club in oz with as much $'s as these pricks have, and still sign Manny Musk***?
Grubs...

[The Dunster]

Cahill to score the winner - odds on 4 sure

[Hunter403]

This half we are not getting Dimi in the game. Need him involved

[The Dunster]

Bruce you diving khunt

[Hunter403]

It's Hoffman of old tonight.

[westjet]

Hoffman having a shocker this half. Please take him off before he costs us ernie.

[The Dunster]

Ernie needs too hook katroumbis as well.

[The Dunster]

Did Miller or Jones address the team at half-time? Seriously

[Retro Jet]

Musk***

[The Dunster]

Shit clearance by jets. City deserve to be in the lead

[belchardo]

sleep-walked into that one.

[Hunter403]

We deserved that. Absolute crap this half against an absolute crap City side.

[Retro Jet]

It's games like this where the class missing shows.

[belchardo]

It's games like this where the class missing shows.

amen brother.

[westjet]

Could see that coming. A shocking second half. Why do we always manage to allow the worst player on teams to score against us.

[plague]

we back!!!!!!!!

[The Dunster]

Var ffs

[MFKS]

35 mins of scintillating stuff

Then Boogaard needlessly sucks the life out of the side by sabotage

****ing useless

[Couscous]

This game plan isn't working. Relies too heavily on immense skill combined with luck.

Keeping the ball would better suit our squad.

[The Dunster]

Jets looked tired 2nd half possibly deflated after not winning the game in 1st half.

[The Dunster]

This game plan isn't working. Relies too heavily on immense skill combined with luck.

Keeping the ball would better suit our squad.

Gary please.

[MFKS]

Jets looked tired 2nd half possibly deflated after not winning the game in 1st half.

Bust their arse for 35 mins

Scoreboard doesn't quite reflect their dominance then to have their alleged captain lead by example with a typical Boogaard moment

Why wouldn't you be deflated to go in at 1-1 ??

Sucked the life out of us tonight Boogaard

[StannyCFCJET]

Bust their arse for 35 mins

Scoreboard doesn't quite reflect their dominance then to have their alleged captain lead by example with a typical Boogaard moment

Why wouldn't you be deflated to go in at 1-1 ??

Sucked the life out of us tonight Boogaard
Thats why Merrick gets paid to do Half Time talks and make subs. Merrick ****ed up his tactics and subs second half

[plague]

35 mins of scintillating stuff

Then Boogaard needlessly sucks the life out of the side by sabotage

****ing useless

if Lowey wasnt such a sycophant his column this week would just be the members quote and hed spend the extra time doing his Chrissy shopping.


but nope, Boogaard will get a pass (again).

[plague]

city dominated the 2nd half because Merrick had us defending too deep to cover up that useless tit Boogaard.

Get Johnny K in centre back next week and be done with this bloke.

[MFKS]

Thats why Merrick gets paid to do Half Time talks and make subs. Merrick ****ed up his tactics and subs second half

Such as what??

I don't think we had a hell of a lot of options on the bench tonight what exactly you thinking we had on there to turn things about??

Like FFS he even had to bring on your mate Clut that how low down on the list of players we are

Our players lost that game tonight by

1 our captains needless penalty concession
2 our failure to take our many chances in the first 35 mins
3 our sloppy play in the second half
4 our inability to get Dimi Nabbout Joey C involved in the second half
5 some sloppy defending by Johnny K and then a complete lack of urgency when that ball ballooned up in the air and was not cleared by us

Blame Bert all you like but the players are to blame tonight
1 in particularly if we pointing fingers

[StannyCFCJET]

Champness and Hoff were having no impact and he still waited too long to make any changes

[MFKS]

Champness and Hoff were having no impact and he still waited too long to make any changes

Hoffman was having an impact

You see how many promising attacks he killed tonight in the second half just by falling over with no one near him ??

Must have been doing his teammates heads in because it was doing mine

[boz-monaut]

this was the first game of the season I've been able to get to

all in all, an utterly shit night and I'd have been much better off staying at home

**** the Jets

[turbojetfireV8]

Thought this was a FoxSports headline for a moment ;)
1511

[Jetmaster]

Expected this....just too many injuries caught up with us. Hopefully they start coming back now and we learn from the experience.

[rhysd]

Missing too many players was always going to be a tough ask. Despite the injury list we really did make city look like a bunch of chumps in that first half.

Lost our way in the 2nd and it is clear that Ernie does not trust the full extent of the squad..

Can honestly see some comings and goings in January.

[belchardo]

Missing too many players was always going to be a tough ask. Despite the injury list we really did make city look like a bunch of chumps in that first half.

Lost our way in the 2nd and it is clear that Ernie does not trust the full extent of the squad..

Can honestly see some comings and goings in January.

me too. dimi being one of them.

[The Dunster]

Champness and Hoff were having no impact and he still waited too long to make any changes

Johnny K should have been hooked before Hoffman - he was honking in the 2nd half. He as very solid in the first half though.

But in saying that I have no issues with any of the players last night. Any team with as many key players out as we have would have struggled.

Instead, the team put on a magnificent 1st half display which might otherwise have given us a 3 goal lead at half time.

It wasn't to be - a few lapses of concentration are to be expected with such a young and by no means our best team on the park.

We move on, we learn from it, and know that last nights loss was still a thousand times better than the shit Stubbins, Miller, and Jones gave us every week.

[hawk]

So shitty decide to play 1 decent game and against us. They are whores to other teams

[sammydog]

Johnny K should have been hooked before Hoffman - he was honking in the 2nd half. He as very solid in the first half though.

But in saying that I have no issues with any of the players last night. Any team with as many key players out as we have would have struggled.

Instead, the team put on a magnificent 1st half display which might otherwise have given us a 3 goal lead at half time.

It wasn't to be - a few lapses of concentration are to be expected with such a young and by no means our best team on the park.

We move on, we learn from it, and know that last nights loss was still a thousand times better than the shit Stubbins, Miller, and Jones gave us every week.

I think thats right, the first 35 minutes were brilliant (much like the second half of the Sydney game) and we could have had the game locked away on any other night.

Second half was showing a lack of experience. I won't call it lack of depth as the players showed for the first 35 minutes that they could play. Lots to look forward to with this squad, particularly when players start to return.

Nabbout being taken down in the box looked very simiar to the penalty call that City got, anyone seen the replay? Not a fan of that ref though, always seems to stooge us.

[Macca]

Some of the stuff in the first half was excellent, and it wasn't just hard and fast counter attacking either. We were holding possession, passing it round and still creating plenty of opportunities. I think the lack of experience combined with the sucker punch of that penalty probably threw us off for the second half. Still, for the amount of injuries we have and the amount of young players out there, pretty good performance. Bouzanis got lucky on a couple of those saves (thinking Champness' one on one and Dimis left from an acute angle), if we have score another goal or two it could have ended up another comfortable win.

[MFKS]

Why everyone keep saying we had a young side out there??

Kanta Topor Moss Boogaard Hoffman

All have been playing in the HAL for over 10 years

Dimi has been playing in it for 7 years
Nabbout has been playing in it for 4-5 years
Sugar has been playing in it for a few years

That ****ing 8/11 of the starting side who ain't even close to rookies

[plague]

Why everyone keep saying we had a young side out there??


because Ernie is too nice to (rightly) put this loss on Boogaard.

Sometimes I wish Miller was still in charge, can you imaging the press conference it would have been amazing