Rd 13 Jets v Mus****s Team

[MFKS]

Game day people

Apparently we playing tonight

[hawk]

Tops stats membar

Spose we'll play these tards off the park again.

3.40 ftw

[Wilso8948]

Victory were less than convincing against City. Bit worried about their wingers against our young fullbacks. On the flip side I think we can have some success attacking Negro/Geria

[Jetmaster]

Media says Barbar is back and will tear us a new one.

This is also the game MV need to win to keep on track for 2nd place (Bozza again!)

[The Dunster]

Muscat is no fool - he knows what will be required to beat Newcastle and he will push the limits of the rules to do it. I reckon it's going to be a grubby game because I don't think Melbourne are good enough to beat us any other way.
The generous odds available on Newcastle to win suggest the referee already has his instructions.

[hawk]

I reckon it's going to be a grubby game because I don't think Melbourne are good enough to beat us any other way.

oh for sure.

Theyll kick the sh1t out of us. How many injuries will we get?

[The Dunster]

Do i need to ask who the ref is for the game? Or as expected has the FFA already appointed The Fixer.

Confirmed. CHRIS BEATH

[Jetmaster]

No handballs for us then.

[Mark325]

Us and Victory are playing the same teams as last week, only difference is victory have milligan

[Wilso8948]

Muscat is no fool - he knows what will be required to beat Newcastle and he will push the limits of the rules to do it. I reckon it's going to be a grubby game because I don't think Melbourne are good enough to beat us any other way.
The generous odds available on Newcastle to win suggest the referee already has his instructions.
With the risk of it coming back to bite us I believe Muscat is a total fool. He's a one trick pony and reverts to total grub tactics. Too many times I've seen him out of his depth and drop the ball tactically. We shall see tonight.

[halo se7en]

I threw $5 on the women J’s to win 3-1 (nailed it) and the men to lose 2-0... An FFA/Beath-inspired Victory victory will net me just over a cool 1k. On the off chance that we are somehow going to keep our good form alive, the bet can go south for all I care if we pick up 3pts.

[Jetmaster]

Fux team lists Georgevski playing and Petratos out. Lack of reaction indicates a typo.

[MFKS]

Fux team lists Georgevski playing and Petratos out. Lack of reaction indicates a typo.

Every source I seeing is same line up as last week

Nash
Johnny K
King Vuj
Topor
****ing Boogaard
Kanta
Sugar
Dimi
Joey C
Hoff
Nabbout

[halo se7en]

So Georgievski was left out of the squad because he hadn’t trained a full hard week which Ernie said was a rule he put in. Then Ernie said DG paid his own way to Melbourne and trained with the fitness guy before the match. If that’s the general attitude across our squad to be that desperate to play/train, then our club appear to have turned a corner.

[Mark325]

Fux team lists Georgevski playing and Petratos out. Lack of reaction indicates a typo.

Yeah I'd gather them not really mentioning it means they ****ed up, either that or merrick has gone crazy and decided georgevski is a solid replacement for dimi

[MFKS]

**** Beath is a ****

Waits until we on the attack and then gives us the free 20 seconds later

FMD

[Retro Jet]

oh for sure.

Theyll kick the sh1t out of us. How many injuries will we get?

The ground just bashed Nabbout....

[Retro Jet]

HOFF!!!!!
(but no....)

[The Dunster]

The real Hoff is back

[MFKS]

15 mins in and I enjoying watching Boogaard marking no one every time Victree attack

Only a matter of time to we get caught out

[The Dunster]

Beath earning his money

[Retro Jet]

I do believe Dimi just dropped the 'C' bomb at Williams :lol:

[The Dunster]

Williams should be on a yellow for that shit.

[Retro Jet]

Watch this pr!ck Beath: next tackle WE'LL get a card...

[The Dunster]

Watch us get the first yellow.

[The Dunster]

Leroy George should get a red card for not having a last name.

[Hunter403]

Berisha seems interested tonight. Last game up here he wasn't sighted.
They are on Dimi like hair on a gorilla.
Ivan doing very well.

[Hunter403]

Ugar! Shit pass and we are down

[halo se7en]

It’s ok. Barbarouses scores first, then we score, Milligan gets sent off, then we score another 3.

[Hunter403]

Victory are up for it tonight. I'm a little concerned.

[plague]

Moss out.

[plague]

Can we get BK out of retirement?

[The Dunster]

Victory are aggressive off the ball and the ref is letting everything go.

[Hunter403]

Jeez, Champness' touch is heavy tonight.

We need half time

[MFKS]

Hey Plague

I thought you said Ugarkovic was Socceroos material??

Blokes been shit tonight

This game is there for our central mids to take the game by the scruff of the neck

Kanta and Ugarkovic getting schooled

[The Dunster]

Kanta is struggling.

[Hunter403]

Ugar, I love you again!

[Retro Jet]

HOFF!!!
(I take it back...)

[halo se7en]

Great run Uga, nice finish Hoff!! Hope Ernie can work some magic, we’re clearly second best.

[Hunter403]

Kanta is struggling.

Yeah, unsighted when we have the ball and not tight enough when they have it. Game looks too fast for him

[The Dunster]

Love the Hoff

[foti68]

HOFF!!!
(I take it back...)

Harper swallowed his tongue
Luv it

[Jetmaster]

I thought you said Ugarkovic was Socceroos material??

Blokes been shit tonight


Moar pleease!

[MFKS]

I threw $5 on the women J’s to win 3-1 (nailed it) and the men to lose 2-0... An FFA/Beath-inspired Victory victory will net me just over a cool 1k. On the off chance that we are somehow going to keep our good form alive, the bet can go south for all I care if we pick up 3pts.

Must hurt when Hoffman and composed finishing are the things that have ****ed that bet up

What are the odds

Two composed finishes 2 weeks on the trot

[StannyCFCJET]

Must hurt when Hoffman and composed finishing are the things that have ****ed that bet up

What are the odds

Two composed finishes 2 weeks on the trot

Well he was a striker

[Wilso8948]

Would have been disappointed being down at halftime. Victory bulk of possession but we look fairly comfortable provided we don't give away shit turnovers.
Victory kicking the shit out of us as usual trying their Muscat intimidation technique. Get up and play hard in response and we can win this game.

[plague]

Hey Plague

I thought you said Ugarkovic was Socceroos material??

Blokes been shit tonight

This game is there for our central mids to take the game by the scruff of the neck

Kanta and Ugarkovic getting schooled

havent seen an Aussie centre mid make a run like that since Cullina.
Tell your boy Jedinak Omar comin'

[halo se7en]

Must hurt when Hoffman and composed finishing are the things that have ****ed that bet up

What are the odds

Two composed finishes 2 weeks on the trot

Nah, I want a result. He should have buried that first header anyway.

[halo se7en]

I thought I read through the week that Kanta was struggling with a back injury- wonder if that’s why he’s looking so lethargic.

[Hunter403]

I thought I read through the week that Kanta was struggling with a back injury- wonder if that’s why he’s looking so lethargic.

You coukd be right. He is off the pace tonight

[MFKS]

I thought I read through the week that Kanta was struggling with a back injury- wonder if that’s why he’s looking so lethargic.

Lethargic??

This is a positioning thing

Him and Ugarkovic should be picking up a lot of free ball in this game

There is a shit load of space in midfield

Problem is it Victree through Milligan and Valeri picking up the free ball from their experience covering the space better

This has nothing to do with fitness but positioning

Fix that and there is a lot more free cheap ball to given to Dimi and Joey C etc early and in space in the second half

Just need to push up a few metres from the back four more than they are

[Hunter403]

Brown for Kanta......oh shit

[Jetmaster]

How about Tara running around to get a Victory interview before the break and getting knocked back by all.

[MFKS]

Bad news Brown is on

Game over now

We ain't played a decent minute when he on the park all season

[Hunter403]

Lethargic??

This is a positioning thing

Him and Ugarkovic should be picking up a lot of free ball in this game

There is a shit load of space in midfield

Problem is it Victree through Milligan and Valeri picking up the free ball from their experience covering the space better

This has nothing to do with fitness but positioning

Fix that and there is a lot more free cheap ball to given to Dimi and Joey C etc early and in space in the second half

Just need to push up a few metres from the back four more than they are

Nah, its an injury thing

[Hunter403]

How about Tara running around to get a Victory interview before the break and getting knocked back by all.

Who would knock Tara back? Madness!

[Wilso8948]

Lethargic??

This is a positioning thing

Him and Ugarkovic should be picking up a lot of free ball in this game

There is a shit load of space in midfield

Problem is it Victree through Milligan and Valeri picking up the free ball from their experience covering the space better

This has nothing to do with fitness but positioning

Fix that and there is a lot more free cheap ball to given to Dimi and Joey C etc early and in space in the second half

Just need to push up a few metres from the back four more than they are

Alllll that plus hamstring tightness...

[halo se7en]

Johnny’s getting schooled big time

[Grimario]

Awful

[Hunter403]

Want a replay of that. Mudt have been borderline

[plague]

hahahahahahaha yeah well it certainly wasnt his 'fault' but how good was Boogaards first 5 steps chasing Berisha?

cantered for a couple then decided he needed to sprint.

just a shade too late.

[The Dunster]

Studs up feet together from behind. Beath is a joke.

[boz-monaut]

been out all night, get home turn on Foxtel, 5 seconds later Berisha scores

**** this, I'm out

this is why I'm ****ing negative towards these jerks - every ****ing time

[Hunter403]

been out all night, get home turn on Foxtel, 5 seconds later Berisha scores

**** this, I'm out

this is why I'm ****ing negative towards these jerks - every ****ing time

Clearly, it's you that is the cause. Ban. 😂😂😂

[MFKS]

Gee whiz

Good call Beath

FMD

[Grimario]

Caught out by a gross lack of pace yet again. That's all teams need to beat us it would seem.

[The Dunster]

Moss!!!!!!!!

[Retro Jet]

Is Roast Beath one for square ups?

[plague]

been out all night, get home turn on Foxtel, 5 seconds later Berisha scores

**** this, I'm out

this is why I'm ****ing negative towards these jerks - every ****ing time

https://media2.giphy.com/media/eoMbAdjUD4jtu/giphy.gif

[goaliepersempre]

Want a replay of that. Mudt have been borderline
in own half... rubbish defending

[Wilso8948]

Berisha two foot studs up. Play on

[Hunter403]

Boogaard you are a goose!

[Grimario]

Berisha two foot studs up. Play on
Geria through the back of Champness, foul but no card.

[Retro Jet]

Boogaard desperate to throw this away...

[MFKS]

Berisha two foot studs up. Play on

Yeah but he keeps pinging Rhys Williams for the most inoccuous fouls

Then ignores his obvious fouls

[Hunter403]

Muscat....retired and still getting cards 😂😂😂😂😂

[Jetmaster]

We are all over the place...bring in the reinforcements.

[Hunter403]

God we need Roy

[Grimario]

God we need Roy

Vargas as well. Having two creative threats means you can't just shut us down marking one out of the game.

[Hunter403]

Hoff could have had 3 tonight! Shit heading!

[Retro Jet]

Hoff could have had 3 tonight! Shit heading!

THIS is why Ernie says the future is mouth watering...
Roy on the end of his header chances thus far probably puts 2 away.

[StannyCFCJET]

Johnny K getting torn to pieces again at RB how many games is that now?

[Grimario]

I don't really understand Jackson over Cowburn. Is he faster?

[Hunter403]

Johnny K getting torn to pieces again at RB how many games is that now?

Hopefully Crazy George will be back next week

[Grimario]

I don't really understand Jackson over Cowburn. Is he faster?

Well thanks for answering that Speedy.

[Retro Jet]

Defending 101: never back in front of the goal...

[halo se7en]

On the plus side, our +GD could have been wiped out in one go this match. We’ve been lucky to keep it close for so long.

[Hunter403]

No Ivan next week either. 5 yellows

[Wilso8948]

Love the fap fest that will go on after this one with a full strength victory side beating us by 1 goal at home when 50% of our starting players are injured

[Retro Jet]

Clueless refs...
N1 Topor. We saw it...

[MFKS]

Love the fap fest that will go on after this one with a full strength victory side beating us by 1 goal at home when 50% of our starting players are injured

And to think they also had Beath scheming for them

His performance was pretty ****ing average all night

[Hunter403]

We hung in there tonight so it's not all doom and gloom. Last season that would have been a flogging.
Injuries, yellows and pointless tournaments will hurt us big time next week.

[Jetmaster]

I think we are in for a difficult few weeks...this big run of games has not come at a good time.

[Retro Jet]

Berisha: "We have very speed players on the wings (farken)"

[The Dunster]

When teams are allowed to be physical and aggressive we struggle. Sydney did it to us and now Victory.
They deserve the win but with a different ref I wouldn't be so sure.

Not our best night but only lost by a goal and had enough chances to win it.


Still don't rate Victory any chance against SFC.

[380]

The half time change with Brown having to come on for Kanta was a real disruption. Wasn't much between us til then.

[halo se7en]

We hung in there tonight so it's not all doom and gloom. Last season that would have been a flogging.
Injuries, yellows and pointless tournaments will hurt us big time next week.

Aren’t we only losing Cowburn?

[Hunter403]

The half time change with Brown having to come on for Kanta was a real disruption. Wasn't much between us til then.

Disagree there. They were better in both halfs.

What it does show is that a fully fit Brown is no better than an injured Kanta

[Hunter403]

Aren’t we only losing Cowburn?
Only Cowburn but Johnny K injured, Kanta injured, Ivan suspended, Vargas and Roy still out. At least Georgevski should be on deck next week.

[MFKS]

The half time change with Brown having to come on for Kanta was a real disruption. Wasn't much between us til then.

I agree

We were much worse in the second half

At least in the first half I felt like we were threatening in attack

In the second less so in it in attack

Our midfield was poor

Boogaard let's Johnny K down big time

King Vuj has Topor covering his arse when it goes wrong
Boogaard leaves Johnny K high and dry and it shows in his indecision

[rhysd]

Victory played their best game of the season. They have their full side out there from what I could see.

We have dan g, Roy, Vargas to come back in and not to mention what this Rodriguez might bring. Riley brings depth.

Muscat will talk it up.. but really he knows his side should be winning that game at home in front of those fans.

Ernie won't be fazed

[lquiquer]

Brown is a disaster.... bloke wouldn't get a start in an all age local game

[MFKS]

When teams are allowed to be physical and aggressive we struggle. Sydney did it to us and now Victory.
They deserve the win but with a different ref I wouldn't be so sure.

Not our best night but only lost by a goal and had enough chances to win it.


Still don't rate Victory any chance against SFC.

I do agree in a lot of ways we were poor tonight
But we got **** all assistance from a ref who allowed us to get hacked to pieces with little protection

Pings Sugar in the 90th minute for diving in with studs up but let's the 50 Victree tackles the same and worse go all night long

That penalty
How is it a yellow??
How is it even a penalty??

Shoulder to shoulder contact and the Victree player should be staying on his feet

Never a penalty

Ridiculous the soft shit we cop at times from refs to give away free kicks and pens and get cards yet you see what Victree get away with tonight and you just laugh at the double standards

[lquiquer]

Victory played their best game of the season. They have their full side out there from what I could see.

We have dan g, Roy, Vargas to come back in and not to mention what this Rodriguez might bring. Riley brings depth.

Muscat will talk it up.. but really he knows his side should be winning that game at home in front of those fans.

Ernie won't be fazed

We let them have their best game... we showed too much respect

[lquiquer]

To me Looks like Berisha was offside

[Wilso8948]

I do agree in a lot of ways we were poor tonight
But we got **** all assistance from a ref who allowed us to get hacked to pieces with little protection

Pings Sugar in the 90th minute for diving in with studs up but let's the 50 Victree tackles the same and worse go all night long

That penalty
How is it a yellow??
How is it even a penalty??

Shoulder to shoulder contact and the Victree player should be staying on his feet

Never a penalty

Ridiculous the soft shit we cop at times from refs to give away free kicks and pens and get cards yet you see what Victree get away with tonight and you just laugh at the double standards

Totally agree except for the pen. Stone wall penalty. Not a yellow though.

[380]

Brown is a disaster.... bloke wouldn't get a start in an all age local game


Was thinking the same. If he was not a visa player we would be talking him up as a state league player on a good day. Club needs too find him another home in January.

[380]

I agree

We were much worse in the second half

At least in the first half I felt like we were threatening in attack

In the second less so in it in attack

Our midfield was poor

Boogaard let's Johnny K down big time

King Vuj has Topor covering his arse when it goes wrong
Boogaard leaves Johnny K high and dry and it shows in his indecision

That was my point ,until half time i always thought we were half a chance of jagging something from the game.

[The Dunster]

Brown would be a great signing for Wellington.

[Couscous]

Brown was a youth international for England. He has ability.

Give him a session with Tony Robbins, then he'll be great for us.

[Couscous]

And on that point, if we hadn't sacked Robbins at the start of last season, we'd be playing in the Asian champions league.

[Jetmaster]

To me Looks like Berisha was offside

No...I checked the replay and Berisha was in his own half when the ball was played.

After sleeping on it I agree with Ernie's assessment...a young team learning beaten by a better team. It may be a difficult January but we will be very strong by the finals.

On another note, why was Williams not booked for a tackle from behind on Dimi early....whilst Vuj gets one for a shoulder push? I also note that the commentary raved on about how good it was seeing Beath let the game flow.

[WolfMan]

Brown was a youth international for England. He has ability.

Give him a session with Tony Robbins, then he'll be great for us.

Great idea, send him off to the newly-formed LAFC (Robbins is a part-owner)

[WolfMan]

No...I checked the replay and Berisha was in his own half when the ball was played.



I'd go as far as to say even if he wasn't in his own half (he was), he was probably still onside. That is, if you magically transposed both Boogaard and Berisha to the other side of the halfway line, reckon Boogaard is still keeping him on...just.

Credit where it's due, Nigel did try to push him offside by quickly jumping over the halfway line just prior to George's pass.

[MFKS]

I'd go as far as to say even if he wasn't in his own half (he was), he was probably still onside. That is, if you magically transposed both Boogaard and Berisha to the other side of the halfway line, reckon Boogaard is still keeping him on...just.

Credit where it's due, Nigel did try to push him offside by quickly jumping over the halfway line just prior to George's pass.

So you just plugged a bloke who failed to sprint 100% to close Berisha down ??

So you just plugged a bloke who actually was nowhere near the opposition striker and when I say nowhere near let's just say 20metres as a conservative estimate ??

So you just plugged a bloke who tried playing an offside trap and got it horribly wrong and got caught out??

Yeah ok

Your easily pleased then

[plague]

clearly 2nd best, Merrick is a one trick pony.
Dont get me wrong, the one trick is great when he has the players and its working, but when hes not got the cattle or the opposition coach works him out (as GVE used to do) it looks horrid.

Victory deserved the win. The fact Topor was great defending two positions showed just how much they dominated the attack. Credit Muscat for isolating Ivan against Barbarouses, knowing Topor couldnt help cover because that would leave Berisha v Boogaard 1 on 1.

Some teams just match up well against us, if Merrick can find someone to share the attack along with Dimi (and it has to be Ugabooga) and we have our finisher back on deck things will be different. until then, its more of the same coming.

get over it, we lost. we'll prob lose next week. no trophies handed out in January.

[halo se7en]

clearly 2nd best, Merrick is a one trick pony.
Dont get me wrong, the one trick is great when he has the players and its working, but when hes not got the cattle or the opposition coach works him out (as GVE used to do) it looks horrid.

Victory deserved the win. The fact Topor was great defending two positions showed just how much they dominated the attack. Credit Muscat for isolating Ivan against Barbarouses, knowing Topor couldnt help cover because that would leave Berisha v Boogaard 1 on 1.

Some teams just match up well against us, if Merrick can find someone to share the attack along with Dimi (and it has to be Ugabooga) and we have our finisher back on deck things will be different. until then, its more of the same coming.

get over it, we lost. we'll prob lose next week. no trophies handed out in January.

Exactly. Throw Roy on the end of a few of those chances instead of Hoff or Nabbout and we score another goal or two. Put Vargas or Rodriguez (hopefully) in there and Dimi gets a bit more space. But it’s no different to any other team missing 2 or 3 of their key players. Take Berisha/Barbs/George out of the game last night and they would have been toothless.

[halo se7en]

Also, put Georgievski in there instead of Johnny and George doesn’t have half the game he does.

[Couscous]

the opposition coach works him out (as GVE used to do)

Period.

[plague]

Also, put Georgievski in there instead of Johnny and George doesn’t have half the game he does.

yeah this was another good point. Johnny K (out of position) got roasted.

Granted, if you said a few weeks ago we'll get 2 good games, one bad game and a few goals out of Johnny K playing in that role id take it every single time.

now get him in Boogaards spot when Gorgeous George gets back.

[MFKS]

yeah this was another good point. Johnny K (out of position) got roasted.

Granted, if you said a few weeks ago we'll get 2 good games, one bad game and a few goals out of Johnny K playing in that role id take it every single time.

now get him in Boogaards spot when Gorgeous George gets back.

Hey Plague I thought you said that Leroy George bloke was shit??

[plague]

Hey Plague I thought you said that Leroy George bloke was shit??

the Hoff scored more goals than him.

adjust your ratings accordingly my brother.

[Mark325]

One good game don't make a good player

[Jetmaster]

Plague has nailed it....well done my friend.

[MFKS]

the Hoff scored more goals than him.

adjust your ratings accordingly my brother.

Hoffman should have had a hat trick

Bloke cost us the game

[StannyCFCJET]

Hoffman should have had a hat trick

Bloke cost us the game

Our Fullbacks cost us the game with their ****ing high school level defending every time someone ran at them which in turn gave Topor and Boogs too much to handle

[WolfMan]

So you just plugged a bloke who failed to sprint 100% to close Berisha down ??

So you just plugged a bloke who actually was nowhere near the opposition striker and when I say nowhere near let's just say 20metres as a conservative estimate ??

So you just plugged a bloke who tried playing an offside trap and got it horribly wrong and got caught out??

Yeah ok

Your easily pleased then

Crikey, maybe read the whole post before replying...

Only good thing I said was Boogaard tried to force Berisha off by jumping over halfway and hoping he would catch him the other side. He did that, and lined up ready to chase him if need be.

Didn't mention his fleetness of foot, just the intent.

Also, Berisha was on the righthand side of the pitch (our left). Hardly a centre back's nominated territory in that situation.

I fully expect a reply to only the first part of this, as the rest will obviously go unread...


Also, you're*

[MFKS]

Crikey, maybe read the whole post before replying...

Only good thing I said was Boogaard tried to force Berisha off by jumping over halfway and hoping he would catch him the other side. He did that, and lined up ready to chase him if need be.

Didn't mention his fleetness of foot, just the intent.

Also, Berisha was on the righthand side of the pitch (our left). Hardly a centre back's nominated territory in that situation.

I fully expect a reply to only the first part of this, as the rest will obviously go unread...


Also, you're*
I will just focus on the last part of your post

The bit where your saying it ok that Boogaard stands in the centre of the park making no one etc
Whilst the competitions gun striker is allowed free reign of the pitch

Exactly what the **** is Boogaard doing ??

He not on the pitch to stand still.

If the striker drifts left you communicate with someone in the back 4 to pick him up or you get on your bike and cover him

Berisha ain't quick but there is no way he should have got to the position he got into on the park.

[belchardo]

I will just focus on the last part of your post

The bit where your saying it ok that Boogaard stands in the centre of the park making no one etc
Whilst the competitions gun striker is allowed free reign of the pitch

Exactly what the **** is Boogaard doing ??

He not on the pitch to stand still.

If the striker drifts left you communicate with someone in the back 4 to pick him up or you get on your bike and cover him

Berisha ain't quick but there is no way he should have got to the position he got into on the park.

wasn't the last part of his post "Also, you're*"?

[WolfMan]

I will just focus on the last part of your post

The bit where your saying it ok that Boogaard stands in the centre of the park making no one etc
Whilst the competitions gun striker is allowed free reign of the pitch

Exactly what the **** is Boogaard doing ??

He not on the pitch to stand still.

If the striker drifts left you communicate with someone in the back 4 to pick him up or you get on your bike and cover him

Berisha ain't quick but there is no way he should have got to the position he got into on the park.

I haven't gone back to watch, but surely a bloke on the actual side of the pitch where the danger is evident (Berisha) should be the one getting fingers pointed at him.

You say a conservative estimate was 20m; how wide is a typical pitch? 55-60m? so by your own admission the team's Centre Back is in the CENTRE of the park.


wasn't the last part of his post "Also, you're*"?


Correct. Cheers

[Bremsstrahlung]

How on earth was Hoffman ever a striker....

[WolfMan]

How on earth was Hoffman ever a striker....

I take it you didn't clap etc. when he fired home last week either?

[MFKS]

I haven't gone back to watch, but surely a bloke on the actual side of the pitch where the danger is evident (Berisha) should be the one getting fingers pointed at him.

You say a conservative estimate was 20m; how wide is a typical pitch? 55-60m? so by your own admission the team's Centre Back is in the CENTRE of the park.




Correct. Cheers

Why point fingers at some other blokes??

Boogaard was the bloke back there

Marking no one
Stepped up when he shouldn't have and got it all wrong
Didn't chase at 100% capacity for the entire chase

Could have done a hell of a lot more to make life harder for Berisha than he did

Yet your trying to divert the blame on to someone else ??

Hey I dislike Boogaard more than the next guy except if Plague is the next guy

But the bloke is a liability and cost us again on Friday night

Looking forward to next season and Bert finding someone competent to partner Topor at the back

[WolfMan]

Stepped up when he shouldn't have and got it all wrong


You understand the offside law, yeh?

OK, in hindsight we can say Berisha would have been onside since he was in his own half when the ball was played. But in that split second, Boogaard did the only thing he could to try and prevent a breakaway.

It was smart, it didn't work out, but the decision making was sound.

I am a vocal detractor of Boogaard, especially with the inflated wage he is (reportedly) on (I won't say earning, because that's a contradiction in terms).

But he did what most in his position would, and to blame him for that is childish, IMHO

[MFKS]

You understand the offside law, yeh?

OK, in hindsight we can say Berisha would have been onside since he was in his own half when the ball was played. But in that split second, Boogaard did the only thing he could to try and prevent a breakaway.

It was smart, it didn't work out, but the decision making was sound.

I am a vocal detractor of Boogaard, especially with the inflated wage he is (reportedly) on (I won't say earning, because that's a contradiction in terms).

But he did what most in his position would, and to blame him for that is childish, IMHO

Stepping up and doing an offside trap is only smart when it works

When it fails you look like a fool

It a game of Russian Roulette and it suicidal if this bloke is the one with his hand on the trigger


What would have been better if he hadn't of done it to start with and had of started moving towards the ball/ Berisha


What would also be better would be the second it failed he got on his bike and put in 100% sprinting towards Berisha for 100% of the time for his chase back

The decision making was not sound at all. Bloke gambled and lost

Make no mistake about it

[plague]

Hey I dislike Boogaard more than the next guy except if Plague is the next guy


hey listen man i dont have that big a problem with his positioning. in fact, if he actually kept pace with Berisha he was in a good spot as it cut down Berishas angle on goal. If Boogaard was way out wide and Berisha got the jump theres zero chance he could have caught him let alone then get around him to get between Berisha and the goals (lets face it Boogs would have gone double studs up from behind and copped the pen and red rinse repeat).

My problem is that Boogaard absolutely misjudged Berishas pace, and set off to chase at half pace. ive watched it back a bunch of times and he laboured for the first 4 or 5 paces then only put a full sprint in once he realised how far behind he was.

ive no doubt if he went full pace from the first step he would have been in a much better position to defend the shot.

(as always IMO) the bottom line is Boogaard made no effect on Berishas shot at goal (and lets not forget it was a pretty fantastic finish).
Boogaard is entirely to blame for letting his man get into that position.

[halo se7en]

. ive watched it back a bunch of times.

Why would you put yourself through that?

[Bremsstrahlung]

I take it you didn't clap etc. when he fired home last week either?

I clap when anybody does something good.
I don’t have a grudge against him. I think he got into some really good positions and his finishing let him down. I’d argue that it was easier to get the ball on target at least. The ball from topor pretty much finds him un marked on the 6yd.

[WolfMan]

I clap when anybody does something good.
I don’t have a grudge against him. I think he got into some really good positions and his finishing let him down. I’d argue that it was easier to get the ball on target at least. The ball from topor pretty much finds him un marked on the 6yd.

Fair call. It was disappointing I agree, but stuff like that happens in every league in the world. The best strikers miss sitters at times. And Hoffman hasn't played as an out and out striker in eons.

For a fullback, he did about as much as could be expected

[WolfMan]

hey listen man i dont have that big a problem with his positioning. in fact, if he actually kept pace with Berisha he was in a good spot as it cut down Berishas angle on goal. If Boogaard was way out wide and Berisha got the jump theres zero chance he could have caught him let alone then get around him to get between Berisha and the goals (lets face it Boogs would have gone double studs up from behind and copped the pen and red rinse repeat).

My problem is that Boogaard absolutely misjudged Berishas pace, and set off to chase at half pace. ive watched it back a bunch of times and he laboured for the first 4 or 5 paces then only put a full sprint in once he realised how far behind he was.

ive no doubt if he went full pace from the first step he would have been in a much better position to defend the shot.

(as always IMO) the bottom line is Boogaard made no effect on Berishas shot at goal (and lets not forget it was a pretty fantastic finish).
Boogaard is entirely to blame for letting his man get into that position.

Did you also see Nigel line up on the halfway line like it was the start of a race?

I haven't watched it back more than twice, but I didn't notice the labouring first few steps you speak of. I'll take you (and Da Membah) at your word as you've seen it more than I

[Tommyjet]

If I was boogaard I would of executed a big dive and slide in front of berisha even if I knew I wasn't gonna get there. Anything to put him off slightly

[The Dunster]

Hoffman was and still is a great signing for the club. Anyone that doesn't support him is a gypo.

[380]

Hoffman was and still is a great signing for the club. Anyone that doesn't support him is a gypo.

Which club, Hamilton ?

[MFKS]

If I was boogaard I would of executed a big dive and slide in front of berisha even if I knew I wasn't gonna get there. Anything to put him off slightly

That be like a BK diving at free kicks after they gone past him thing

Boogaard diving whilst 10 yards away just to look like he trying etc??

[belchardo]

Which club, Hamilton ?

that's quite funny. well played.