Daily Australian News Thread

[MFKS]

we continue to support this club and hope it will one day be competitive again - think we all score high on the gullibility stakes round here... :popcorn:

I don't have that dream

This comp is going down the shitter so it don't really matter

Enjoy it while it lasts and we have to drain the pond again and bring in NSL v 3.0


FFA have ****ed this up so much it needs a reboot

[plague]

You believe the words of a Gypo

Pretty certain the crown is yours

you believe the words of a .........

sorry, was about to go there but out of respect, wont.

but legit though dude. you gotta sit this one out.
just wear your crown with pride.

[Aegon]

Seriously why are so many people on this forum so bloody negative?

We're lucky to have a bloody A league club & I enjoy getting out to watch nearly every game live.

It's like people can't remember back longer than 2 seasons ago when you would turn up to every game and we would play negative boring football that never gave you a hope that we were going to get a result.

These days we play an entertaining attacking style of play where we do look like scoring goals.

Enjoy the game for what it is. Think to yourself, if you are so negative and derive so little enjoyment from following the game, why do you bother?

[plague]

Think to yourself, if you are so negative and derive so little enjoyment from following the game, why do you bother?

personally i derive much joy from how much the club stinks and how much it hates its fans especially me.

i also get a huge satisfaction out of seeing people get tied up in knots about a bunch of dudes in knockoff Knights kit kicking a ball around.

So i know you're not talking about me when commenting on the negativity. But just letting you know some of us out get many smiles from the Jets and everything surrounding it.

[Jetmaster]

Seriously why are so many people on this forum so bloody negative?

We're lucky to have a bloody A league club & I enjoy getting out to watch nearly every game live.

It's like people can't remember back longer than 2 seasons ago when you would turn up to every game and we would play negative boring football that never gave you a hope that we were going to get a result.

These days we play an entertaining attacking style of play where we do look like scoring goals.

Enjoy the game for what it is. Think to yourself, if you are so negative and derive so little enjoyment from following the game, why do you bother?

Don't stress out mate - we are never who we sound on here, just bants.

I get immense joy every time we do something that makes you shake your head, giggle to yourself and say "that is soooo Jets"

If you want serious chat go to Facebook where the "real" fans are. :lol:

[MFKS]

Seriously why are so many people on this forum so bloody negative?

We're lucky to have a bloody A league club & I enjoy getting out to watch nearly every game live.

It's like people can't remember back longer than 2 seasons ago when you would turn up to every game and we would play negative boring football that never gave you a hope that we were going to get a result.

These days we play an entertaining attacking style of play where we do look like scoring goals.

Enjoy the game for what it is. Think to yourself, if you are so negative and derive so little enjoyment from following the game, why do you bother?

Internet is not serious business though

I am though not joking when I say this comp is going down the shitter and needs a reboot and deadly serious

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/ksfoundation221019.mp4


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And, in a case of brotherly love, his motivation has come from personal experience.
If you’d like to support the KS Foundation, or find out more, you can visit:
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[Ruud Van Nistelrooys Chin]

Very concerning to see the Salford City FC supporters charged for “racism”. Called the Northampton fans gypos and pikeys during the weekends match. If this sets a precedent there is gonna be a pretty busy holding cell at McDonald Jones when scum come to town.

[plague]

interesting article yesterday (soz cant find link) regarding a report commissioned by the players union (i think) about what happened after the golden generation.

the article was barely a snippet of what it was about, and they usually just cherry pick the quotes that will cause a discussion. but they def highlighted that the players from that generation 'wanted it more' than the kids today, and that the players from that generation were way more intertwined with their ethnic roots (playing for their clubs, socialising with 'their' people).
It def smacked of a subtle way of pining for the good old days of embracing the ethnic angle and that getting kids more connected to their communities (rather than 'regions') is a better way for them to work harder.

It was one of the core beliefs of the league to get away from that, and to 'de-wog' it. the angle was always the violence, but as we've seen with these so-called homogenised teams dickheads are still gonna infiltrate it (in the same way NRL and AFL have dickheads too).

i wonder if this is some sort of future push to entice the Marconis/Olympics etc back into the new 2nd division and keep all their badges etc?
lotta money, and experience there, and its not like the new competition is gonna be flush with cash from day 1.


hopefully the full report becomes public, id love to know if the goal was to really find us another golden generation, or just poke the FFA with a big stick and start the public relations spin on setting up the 'new' A-League.

[The Dunster]

interesting article yesterday (soz cant find link) regarding a report commissioned by the players union (i think) about what happened after the golden generation.

the article was barely a snippet of what it was about, and they usually just cherry pick the quotes that will cause a discussion. but they def highlighted that the players from that generation 'wanted it more' than the kids today, and that the players from that generation were way more intertwined with their ethnic roots (playing for their clubs, socialising with 'their' people).
It def smacked of a subtle way of pining for the good old days of embracing the ethnic angle and that getting kids more connected to their communities (rather than 'regions') is a better way for them to work harder.

It was one of the core beliefs of the league to get away from that, and to 'de-wog' it. the angle was always the violence, but as we've seen with these so-called homogenised teams dickheads are still gonna infiltrate it (in the same way NRL and AFL have dickheads too).

i wonder if this is some sort of future push to entice the Marconis/Olympics etc back into the new 2nd division and keep all their badges etc?
lotta money, and experience there, and its not like the new competition is gonna be flush with cash from day 1.


hopefully the full report becomes public, id love to know if the goal was to really find us another golden generation, or just poke the FFA with a big stick and start the public relations spin on setting up the 'new' A-League.

The Wog's copped a lot of shit at work or school back in the day. The weekend / football was there opportunity to enter into a competition where they weren't outnumbered or facing a set of rules designed to hold them back.

I'm too far removed from it now to know for sure but I guess that groups have just become more assimilated now and ethnicity either isn't as important or people have found it easier to get by simply letting go of it. I know in the case of my cousins who are Egyptian / Jewish their kids avoided playing soccer and played cricket and Aussie Rules instead to break the mold.

[pv4]

hopefully the full report becomes public, id love to know if the goal was to really find us another golden generation, or just poke the FFA with a big stick and start the public relations spin on setting up the 'new' A-League.

This isn't a new spin, it dates back to the NSL.

Do yourself a favour and get your hands on the 2003 Crawford Report, and read as much as you can around the subject. The report did not encourage the NSL to be folded, but rather the administration to be fixed and a board independent of SA (FFA) run the league. It did not recommend removing existing clubs. And it was spelt out that it was not a report that could be cherry picked what you did and didn't want to take from it. But, Frank Lowy and co cherry picked, used it as validation to remove the ethnics, did not get an independent board to run the thing, and basically followed thru on nothing the report recommended. If you don't want to read the whole Crawford Report, at least read articles like this one from people involved at the time:
https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/stefan-kamasz-how-frank-lowy-got-the-a-league-wrong-480046/page0

The other system issues are we threw all our mangoes in the KNVB win-nothing basket, we lampoon genius coaches like Ange the moment we're onto a good thing, sports scientists are telling kids not to do extras after training, and rego & insurance fees are so thru the roof that particularly in our regional areas rugby league and afl are getting free or near-free regos while football are charging more and more each year. We're watching the rest of Asia, and the football world in general, just bypass us in the meantime.

Con cantera y afición, no hace falta importación. Let the boys play. Nurture our multicultural nation. And set up systems that don't let examples like Josip Simunic happen again in future.

[plague]

We're watching the rest of Asia, and the football world in general, just bypass us in the meantime.


cheers for the info.

yeah i just found it weird that a report that was seeking to wonder why we've regressed seemed to be a lot of peoples opinions about the good old days. they even pretty much lamented that the '06 side was an anomaly and that we are actually now right where we should be. i find that astounding that anyone would promote that level of thinking.

there was a lot of "the kids are over coached" (whatever that means) and "they dont work hard enough".

i always look to Japan as a marker on where we should be as a national team and where individually our players are. we are about 30 years behind their program and it shows.

[Jim]

Ask the kids parents who participated in the Spanish IBERCUP recently about what they saw and found out about junior football.

Over training does not exist. Play to win, always train hard year round is the mantra. Though id like to see them train in our summer.

[The Dunster]

I always look to Japan as a marker on where we should be as a national team and where individually our players are. we are about 30 years behind their program and it shows.

Japan has five times our population, plus a much larger economy - yet at World Cups they have never been past the round of 16 and 50% of the time they fail to get out of their group.
We need to set the bar a lot higher than Japan I think. Plenty of smaller countries with lesser budgets a lot more successful than Japan at world cup level.

South Korea do just as well as Japan but we rarely hear people saying we should be more like them. Not sure why that's the case.

[londonboy]

Ask the kids parents who participated in the Spanish IBERCUP recently about what they saw and found out about junior football.

Over training does not exist. Play to win, always train hard year round is the mantra. Though id like to see them train in our summer.

I'd just like to see kids playing football in the park. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a bunch of kids just playing, jumpers for goalposts, without the need for a coach there. Is this not a thing anymore? Every successful country will have a historic culture of just kids playing on the street, or in the park, or in caged pitches on housing estates. Kids just turn up and join in, and age doesn't matter. That's how kids develop at an early age. The coaching comes later, but the basic skills - and toughness - come from playing against the bigger, better kids for hours every day, all year round.

[londonboy]

Japan has five times our population, plus a much larger economy - yet at World Cups they have never been past the round of 16 and 50% of the time they fail to get out of their group.
We need to set the bar a lot higher than Japan I think. Plenty of smaller countries with lesser budgets a lot more successful than Japan at world cup level.

South Korea do just as well as Japan but we rarely hear people saying we should be more like them. Not sure why that's the case.

I agree - I am not sure why Japan should be seen as someone to aspire to? Look at places like Croatia - 4m population, country barely 30 years old, yet reach the World Cup final and semis in '98. They have the street football culture, and then pluck the best kids into club football to develop. Inevitably, the best players then go abroad and the national team benefits. That's the way forward, and not too far away from happened with the '06 squad. How many of those kids played on the streets, and then went abroad? A fair few I'd guess.

[plague]

I agree - I am not sure why Japan should be seen as someone to aspire to?

because its the closet example we have to our own country.

When Japan started its overhaul of football it was neither the most popular played sport amongst juniors nor was it the dominant sport at a professional level.
Croatia has that infrastructure set up. Australia doesnt, Japan didnt. Japan had to build from a zero base essentially. We have a lot of work to do just to get to the base of the footballing superpowers. We cant just wave a magic wand and make soccer the #1 sport in this country. Until we even get to that stage theres no point looking to emulate the big boys.

As for population (as Dunster brought up) for every Uruguay and Croatia, theres a China and USA. Again, we want to all be like Uruguay and Croatia, but realistically we are more like USA and China. Japan have done what we need to do (successful league, #1 sport amongst all the key demos).

Also, its a wee bit cheeky saying Croatia is only 30 years old. Without going into the politics of it all, Croatia didnt just break away from the old country and decide to start playing football. they brought a lot of culture and history with them.

[plague]

Ask the kids parents who participated in the Spanish IBERCUP recently about what they saw and found out about junior football.


didnt the kids do really well the year before when they went over?

[pv4]

Kids just turn up and join in, and age doesn't matter. That's how kids develop at an early age. The coaching comes later, but the basic skills - and toughness - come from playing against the bigger, better kids for hours every day, all year round.

Sorry m8 this pickup game is for 13 year olds only. At half time the regulations dictate it actually goes back to 11 years olds only. You would know this if your kid was in the KNVB Academy system from 7 years, paying $3,400 per year for shinpads, or if your kid hasn't been included in that system by at least 9yo then you should just tell them to give up already as it is too late. Also note as an unregulated pickup game, if your kid gets injured and surgery costs $6,000 you'll have to pay for the full amount and not get the sweet return of $348 that you would have if insured during a regulated game, so your loss there bud. By the way those freddo frogs you've been selling to the crowd that has been massing to watch the game, you're going to have to halve the profits with the girls game 2 fields across that has no one watching it, it's not fair that you had a market to sell to and they didn't. And don't you dare pronounce the kids names the way they are meant to be.

VAR check - play on #jogabonito

[londonboy]

Also, its a wee bit cheeky saying Croatia is only 30 years old. Without going into the politics of it all, Croatia didnt just break away from the old country and decide to start playing football. they brought a lot of culture and history with them.

The point was that the country needed to rebuild the sporting structures in the country after the break-up, and over the 30 years have managed to do this successfully through a systemic approach. Japan has been pushing football hard for a similar period of time (with much greater resources) and what have they achieved? The difference, I think, is that football is cultural in Croatia - kids just go out and play it - whereas in Japan and Australia that doesn't really seem to be the case. Where are places which encourage kids to just go along and kick a ball around with other kids for free?

[londonboy]

Sorry m8 this pickup game is for 13 year olds only. At half time the regulations dictate it actually goes back to 11 years olds only. You would know this if your kid was in the KNVB Academy system from 7 years, paying $3,400 per year for shinpads, or if your kid hasn't been included in that system by at least 9yo then you should just tell them to give up already as it is too late. Also note as an unregulated pickup game, if your kid gets injured and surgery costs $6,000 you'll have to pay for the full amount and not get the sweet return of $348 that you would have if insured during a regulated game, so your loss there bud. By the way those freddo frogs you've been selling to the crowd that has been massing to watch the game, you're going to have to halve the profits with the girls game 2 fields across that has no one watching it, it's not fair that you had a market to sell to and they didn't. And don't you dare pronounce the kids names the way they are meant to be.

VAR check - play on #jogabonito

Admit it - you copied and pasted this directly from the FFA 2018 Annual Review?

[plague]

The point was that the country needed to rebuild the sporting structures in the country after the break-up, and over the 30 years have managed to do this successfully through a systemic approach. Japan has been pushing football hard for a similar period of time (with much greater resources) and what have they achieved? The difference, I think, is that football is cultural in Croatia - kids just go out and play it - whereas in Japan and Australia that doesn't really seem to be the case. Where are places which encourage kids to just go along and kick a ball around with other kids for free?

i mean, you just repeated my point.

we cant start at Croatia because we dont have the culture they do.
We need to build that first before kids automatically choose to head out and kick a ball around vs a swim/netball/AFL etc.
Japan/USA/China are all in a similar position to us.

I just think Japan has made the better forward progress.

Their league is now at its most popular.
their mens team has consistent (if not spectacular) results on the world stage.
Their womens team has easily been one of the best 3 in the world over the last decade (rebuilding now though tbf).
their 17's have missed only one WC since '05.
Their 20's havent been as successful, but have made rd 16 last 2 world cups.

their national teams at all levels are way ahead of Australia, whereas 30 years ago they werent.

Again, they are going forward we are going backwards.

we've gotta aim for something, but we've also gotta be honest as to where we are at the moment.

once we are 'good' at football then id be thinking about being 'great' at football.

[plague]

Sorry m8 this pickup game is for 13 year olds only. At half time the regulations dictate it actually goes back to 11 years olds only. You would know this if your kid was in the KNVB Academy system from 7 years, paying $3,400 per year for shinpads, or if your kid hasn't been included in that system by at least 9yo then you should just tell them to give up already as it is too late. Also note as an unregulated pickup game, if your kid gets injured and surgery costs $6,000 you'll have to pay for the full amount and not get the sweet return of $348 that you would have if insured during a regulated game, so your loss there bud. By the way those freddo frogs you've been selling to the crowd that has been massing to watch the game, you're going to have to halve the profits with the girls game 2 fields across that has no one watching it, it's not fair that you had a market to sell to and they didn't. And don't you dare pronounce the kids names the way they are meant to be.

VAR check - play on #jogabonito

The good Member gonna set a record for how many 'snowfakes' 'lefties' and 'PC' words he can fit in one post in response to this.

[redwah]

2 words....”reserve grade”.

If the best 16yos are playing against men, or heaven forbid the whole a league squad play regular games the the level can only improve..competition has to improve competitors

[Dogshot99]

On another note...

Midfielder Ben Kantarovski back from injury to bolster Jets

ROBERT DILLON

Local Sport



NEWCASTLE will welcome back their most-capped player, Ben Kantarovski, for Saturday's clash with a buoyant Adelaide at McDonald Jones Stadium.

Kantarovski, who has appeared in a club-record 180 A-League games for Newcastle, was named in the squad on Thursday and is expected to be used off the bench on Saturday night.



The 27-year-old midfielder missed last week's season-opening draw against Central Coast, and a number of trial games, after being hindered by groin and hamstring issues.

But he has convinced coach Ernie Merrick that he is fit to resume and should soon be challenging Steven Ugarkovic and Matthew Ridenton for a spot in the starting line-up.

"I didn't want to rush back and have it hampering the rest of the season, so we just took our time to make sure it was 100 per cent," Kantarovski said.

"But it feels good now, nice and strong, and so it's just a matter of keeping it that way."

Kantarovski admitted it would be a "bit of a task" to displace either Ugarkovic or Ridenton, who have developed a solid partnership while he has been sidelined.

"That's the ideal scenario," he said. "That's what you want in the team, everybody fighting for positions all around the park. I think we've got that right across the board, and that just shows the depth of our squad."

The Jets will be chasing their first win of the season against an Adelaide side riding high after Wednesday's 4-0 thrashing of Melbourne City in the FFA Cup final.

Kantarovski watched the final and was impressed with what he saw of Adelaide, who were coming off back-to-back defeats in their opening two A-League games.

"They did well, credit to them," he said.

"They worked hard and beat Melbourne City with a really direct sort of game. It was a good performance, at the end of the day.

"They didn't concede, and they scored four goals.

"But that's ideal for us. We get to play a good team and show what we're about, so it's even more of a challenge.

"Nobody wants to back down from a challenge, so we'll be really excited to play Adelaide at their best."

The clash with Newcastle will be Adelaide's third game in the space of a week, but Kantarovski said the Jets had no illusions that their opponents might be leg-weary.

"It's just a matter of sticking to our game plan," he said. "It doesn't matter how many games they've played, we want to put them under pressure, attack them consistently, score goals and win the match. Whether they've played one game in a week or three games, we still back ourselves to do a job."

[plague]

Ben Kantarovski back

Best post ive read in ages.
Would read again, recommend to friends etc etc.

[The Dunster]

because its the closet example we have to our own country.

When Japan started its overhaul of football it was neither the most popular played sport amongst juniors nor was it the dominant sport at a professional level.
Croatia has that infrastructure set up. Australia doesnt, Japan didnt. Japan had to build from a zero base essentially. We have a lot of work to do just to get to the base of the footballing superpowers. We cant just wave a magic wand and make soccer the #1 sport in this country. Until we even get to that stage theres no point looking to emulate the big boys.

As for population (as Dunster brought up) for every Uruguay and Croatia, theres a China and USA. Again, we want to all be like Uruguay and Croatia, but realistically we are more like USA and China. Japan have done what we need to do (successful league, #1 sport amongst all the key demos).

Also, its a wee bit cheeky saying Croatia is only 30 years old. Without going into the politics of it all, Croatia didnt just break away from the old country and decide to start playing football. they brought a lot of culture and history with them.

How are we like USA and China ? We don't even have plans to build a wall.

[MFKS]

How are we like USA and China ? We don't even have plans to build a wall.

Yeah we do

Build one at Swansea to keep the southern filth out

[Frodo]

Yeah we do

Build one at Swansea to keep the southern filth out

Build it out of Job Applications. They won't know what to do.

[Dogshot99]

Best post ive read in ages.
Would read again, recommend to friends etc etc.

Cheers plague, great news I agree. If only nz would take back their own in some sort" redemption " kind of way, we could all get on with some serious midfield football. Couldn't be worse in any case.

[Jim]

It was one of the core beliefs of the league to get away from that, and to 'de-wog' it. the angle was always the violence, but as we've seen with these so-called homogenised teams dickheads are still gonna infiltrate it (in the same way NRL and AFL have dickheads too).

i wonder if this is some sort of future push to entice the Marconis/Olympics etc back into the new 2nd division and keep all their badges etc?
lotta money, and experience there, and its not like the new competition is gonna be flush with cash from day 1.

hopefully the full report becomes public, id love to know if the goal was to really find us another golden generation, or just poke the FFA with a big stick and start the public relations spin on setting up the 'new' A-League.

Multiculturalising clubs was essential in order to get more neutrals to follow a national game. Living at Hamilton I didnt follow Hamilton when I was a kid cause that was for my Italian mates. Dont know why we didnt just mix. It was easier to follow de-enthnised NRL. Yes even another town was ok. Yes all cultures played at these teams but we felt we didnt belong. Now we still have cultures who cant stand each other here due to historical wars. If we had Broadmeadow Magic Jets in the Aleague i still would follow NRL and or AFL. Was it good for existing clubs? nope. Did it hinder the skills being bought into the country from migrating families? maybe. Can we use it as an excuse now? no way.

[plague]

Multiculturalising clubs was essential in order to get more neutrals to follow a national game. Living at Hamilton I didnt follow Hamilton when I was a kid cause that was for my Italian mates. Dont know why we didnt just mix. It was easier to follow de-enthnised NRL. Yes even another town was ok. Yes all cultures played at these teams but we felt we didnt belong. Now we still have cultures who cant stand each other here due to historical wars. If we had Broadmeadow Magic Jets in the Aleague i still would follow NRL and or AFL. Was it good for existing clubs? nope. Did it hinder the skills being bought into the country from migrating families? maybe. Can we use it as an excuse now? no way.


yeah look as someone who understood the reasons for 'de-wogging' the A-League. I can also understand the attraction of the new A-League going to a Marconi, or Olympic or Sth Melbourne and inviting them back in. The real money is in TV rights. If the TV has something to offer the neutral, like an old school/new wave derby etc then it might just work. The A-League would be ecstatic with avg 12k fans per game and a growing TV audience. then its big Marquee matches dominating the headlines. (dirty little secret, no one actually goes to NRL games yet it gets a billion dollar tv contract).

the A-League has a big library to tap into, if they do it right, it will work. but i can understand the apprehension.

[MFKS]

The De Wogging of the game has done **** all though

The only thing it has done is disenfranchising a large amount of people in this country that love the game

Mainstreaming it was never the golden egg

Lowy and co have done more harm than good

[The Dunster]

Melb Victory did a lot better job picking up fans from former NSL clubs people here realise.

People here also massively over rate the following South Melb and Melb Knights have.

They also fail to realise how much of their young talent over the years was poached from smaller clubs who focused on jr development.

[Jim]

The De Wogging of the game has done **** all though

The only thing it has done is disenfranchising a large amount of people in this country that love the game

Mainstreaming it was never the golden egg

Lowy and co have done more harm than good

disagree

The people that lived for the game didnt go away. They may still follow or play with their traditional club at the 2nd level and maybe head to an Aleague club as well. Dont under estimate the power of other sports. People will prefer afl nrl union cricket for a long time to come so we'll be always picking from a small sub group regardless what ffa does.

Mainstreaming was never to be the answer but it *enfranchised more than it lost. I take it you were part of the original system.

[Aegon]

People will prefer afl nrl union cricket for a long time to come so we'll be always picking from a small sub group regardless what ffa does.

Can Union still be mentioned in the same breath? No one gives a toss about Super Rugby anymore and club rugby is hurting due to lack of attention. Only time anyone cares about the wallabies is when they are going well..... which these days is hardly ever.

[plague]

Can Union still be mentioned in the same breath? No one gives a toss about Super Rugby anymore and club rugby is hurting due to lack of attention. Only time anyone cares about the wallabies is when they are going well..... which these days is hardly ever.

oh id say that the Wallabies/Super Rugby are pretty much exactly where the Socceroos/A-League is at the moment.

i mean, that crowd on saturday arvo for our first home game seemed really disappointing.

[Couscous]

I just heard the club's for sale. I heard it on an old podcast with McKinna.

It was daily news at some point.

[Dogshot99]

The Lowedown: Jets rue one that got away

DAVID LOWE

Local Sport


It was a storyline all too familiar for Jets fans.

In front on the stats sheets, visually on top in the contest, but behind on the scoreboard. Was it the home-ground blues, highlighted in the Herald last week? A failure to convert good scoring opportunities? Poor concentration resulting in the concession of sloppy goals? All of the above?

I have to say I don't really buy into the home-ground argument in the sense that it affects the players' performances or confidence. The statistics may tell a different story, but by and large the Jets fans are as loyal and patient as any set in the league, so there is no psychological hill to get over for the playing group.

Certainly there were some goodish opportunities that went begging on Saturday afternoon, but none that we will remember for years to come. No "how the hell did he miss that?" moments, but the regular share of "that was so close", head-in-hands incidents.

For my money the Jets should have won the game 1-0, courtesy of a moment of real quality from Abdiel Arroyo, but they allowed an understandably off-the-pace Adelaide back into the match, through a drop in concentration, intensity, and poor game management.

In saying that, I acknowledge the resolve of Adelaide, given their midweek exertions, and the substitutions made by their coach at half-time. But despite improving in the second stanza, what they produced shouldn't have been enough to reverse the result.

We can argue ad nauseam about spurned chances creating pressure at the defensive end, against clean sheets and defensive security at one end reducing the pressure at the attacking end. It's a chicken v egg debate, but Adelaide's goals were poxy, ugly, soft, messy ... insert your adjective of choice.

Contrast that to the tsunami of attacks the Wanderers repelled against a Sydney FC side completely in control of their derby fixture a couple of hours later, and you get my drift. And the Wanderers get the most unlikely of three-point presents.

Given the difficult conditions, the heat and wind combination, being among the least conducive to good football, I thought the Jets and Adelaide did a commendable job of entertaining the crowd, but individual errors cost Ernie Merrick's side three points.

And the harsh reality is that five very gettable points have been dropped in the first two games of the Jets' season.

Five very gettable points have been dropped in the first two games of the Jets' season.

You sense that a trip away to defending champions Sydney FC on Friday night could be the perfect scenario to make a stand, notch another good road result, and show that the team can compete with the big boys. I don't doubt that can happen, but poor concentration is an absolute no-no against arguably the best footballing side in the country.

The other no-no, when facing the Sky Blues, is allowing yourself to be outnumbered in midfield, because if that happens you will run and chase for much of the 90 minutes.

I think it's fair to say that Adelaide got a foothold in last weekend's game when James Troisi and Riley McGree started to find time and space in the centre of the park, and Sydney can present twice the problem.

Brandon O'Neill and Luke Brattan sit deep, Milos Ninkovic and Alexander Baumjohann who would comfortably start as chief playmakers in most teams, play further forward, start wide, but vacate the channels for overlapping fullbacks, and present constant, comfortable, creative threats in central areas.

If that creative smorgasbord of options pulls your defensive shape apart, the pace and predatory instinct of Barbarouses and Le Fondre up front is quite a handful.

I noted with interest Ernie Merrick's comment that the return of Ben Kantarovski meant he felt comfortable enough to play with a midfield diamond, narrowing up the attacking line to a front two, and providing an extra body in the engine room.

You'd imagine that would be the minimum requirement to negate Sydney. In fact the sweet sounding and aesthetically pleasing diamond may have to be a less attractive hybrid, to deny Sydney control of the contest.

As a general rule I am more comfortable with Dimi Petratos playing as one of the front three, with licence to roam, against the stronger sides, with an extra body in midfield to provide help when the game stretches. More so than ever with Matt Millar getting up and down the right flank.

It's an important game in terms of the result, and the playing group's confidence. It's the litmus test for mine right now.

The tactics will be key, the concentration critical, and I have a hunch the Jets will give a very good account of themselves.

[leftrightout]

Story in The Herald today about how in form Ridenton is and how his hard work is paying off.... I must be watching different football games?

[380]

Story in The Herald today about how in form Ridenton is and how his hard work is paying off.... I must be watching different football games?

Nah you are correct he is a very average footballer better placed running around for Valo. I just wish the Kiwi national team came calling for his services every weekend.

[StannyCFCJET]

Story in The Herald today about how in form Ridenton is and how his hard work is paying off.... I must be watching different football games?

Everyone must be

[Frodo]

Story in The Herald today about how in form Ridenton is and how his hard work is paying off.... I must be watching different football games?

Considering he's back in contention for a NZ call up, I'd agree with your point that maybe us couch-coaches don't know as much as we think.

Also, if we are going to choose a scapegoat I want to make sure McKinna's name is in the hat. **** that guy. (I'm very proud of taking this from a point about whether Ridenton is trash all the way to **** McKinna so quickly.)

[MFKS]

Considering he's back in contention for a NZ call up, I'd agree with your point that maybe us couch-coaches don't know as much as we think.

Also, if we are going to choose a scapegoat I want to make sure McKinna's name is in the hat. **** that guy. (I'm very proud of taking this from a point about whether Ridenton is trash all the way to **** McKinna so quickly.)

Next thing we know this thread will get hijacked a degree or two and we be talking about goalkeepers or Griffo

BTW How are our Griffo cloning coming along ??

[Frodo]

Next thing we know this thread will get hijacked a degree or two and we be talking about goalkeepers or Griffo

BTW How are our Griffo cloning coming along ??

Any idea when should I expect my Jets shaped hat to arrive?

[plague]

Considering he's back in contention for a NZ call up, I'd agree with your point that maybe us couch-coaches don't know as much as we think.



nah, we had Stu and Jobe. We know what excellence looks like.

[MFKS]

nah, we had Stu and Jobe. We know what excellence looks like.

We had Griffo

We know what perfection looks like



Would have nailed it better

[belchardo]

would have thought somebody would be on to this by now!

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-league-club-confirms-bid-to-sign-ibrahimovic-20191030-p535vf.html

[Jetmaster]

The BK Academy....where do I get the t-shirt?

1655

[Jeterpool]

The BK Academy....where do I get the t-shirt?

1655

Wonder if he had glove shaped hats?

[Couscous]

Gary van Egmond leads his team to a comeback despite being two goals and one man down:
https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/young-socceroos-open-afc-u-19-championship-2020-qualifying-campaign-with-laos-draw

[380]

Gary van Egmond leads his team to a comeback despite being two goals and one man down:
https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/young-socceroos-open-afc-u-19-championship-2020-qualifying-campaign-with-laos-draw

Onya Gaz. If Bert keeps picking Johnny K and Ridenton it won't be long before your back for your third stint.

[MFKS]

Gary van Egmond leads his team to a comeback despite being two goals and one man down:
https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/young-socceroos-open-afc-u-19-championship-2020-qualifying-campaign-with-laos-draw

FFS it was Laos

You seen that place??
Full of rice farmers

Should be sacked for not winning by 4 even with 10 men

[Couscous]

it won't be long before your back for your third stint

My guess is that most fans would be quite happy to see GVE get a chance with this squad.

[StannyCFCJET]

My guess is that most fans would be quite happy to see GVE get a chance with this squad.

No way in hell

[Bon]

My guess is that most fans would be quite happy to see GVE get a chance with this squad.

Calm down, Gary..

[turbojetfireV8]

think it's time GVE had a stint at the sCCuM actually, there's plenty of engines there with minimal talent, he'd be in his element coaching those f*cks...

[Couscous]

No way in hell

Poll them.

[Grimario]

https://www.vtbl.nl/nieuws/artikel/4937401/voetbaltrainer-pim-verbeek-overleden-op-63-jarige-leeftijd

Pim Verbeek, former professional football player and trainer, has passed away at the age of 63. The Rotterdammer had been sick for a long time.

[Couscous]

Who knows what would have happened in 2010 had Kewell not been red carded. Verbeek was better than he was given credit for, as happens often with coaches.

[sorefootballer]

Ok Garry.

[traffic light]

Who knows what would have happened in 2010 had Kewell not been red carded. Verbeek was better than he was given credit for, as happens often with coaches.

Just stick to trying to coach the 20's. god knows they need it

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/09/socceroos-skipper-mark-milligan-calls-time-on-international-career

milligan retires from international football. didn't know he was still playing at all!

[StannyCFCJET]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/09/socceroos-skipper-mark-milligan-calls-time-on-international-career

milligan retires from international football. didn't know he was still playing at all!

In Scotland I believe

[Jetmaster]

In Scotland I believe

No....in Southend.

[sorefootballer]

Gotta read the article Stanny, saves you sounding like a fool

[StannyCFCJET]

Gotta read the article Stanny, saves you sounding like a fool

He was in Scotland in July which is close enough so not sure where I sounded like a fool. Also just assumed it would be a paywall article like everything else these days

[Jeterpool]

Gotta read the article Stanny, saves you sounding like a fool

I also still thought he was in Scotland

[pv4]

I also still thought he was in Scotland

I, too, have not read the article but my understanding is he is playing for the English team with the prawn in their logo, and being managed by Sol Campbell.

[Frodo]

I, too, have not read the article but my understanding is he is playing for the English team with the prawn in their logo, and being managed by Sol Campbell.

They aren't doing too well either. Poor Sol has a job on his hands.

[sorefootballer]

Well i take it all back stanny. I must have been the only one reading. No hard feeling brother. Frustrations boiling over from the Jets

[StannyCFCJET]

Well i take it all back stanny. I must have been the only one reading. No hard feeling brother. Frustrations boiling over from the Jets

All g

[Couscous]

Fool Stanny read.

[Jetmaster]

Gee - I thought it was common knowledge.

Announced 1st July....

https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2019/july/getting-to-know-mark-milligan/

[plague]

does anyone know why you cant get tix to AAMI park games other than through ticketmaster 'resale' section?

how do Jerks members get tix in the away section for those games?

[plague]

does anyone know why you cant get tix to AAMI park games other than through ticketmaster 'resale' section?

how do Jerks members get tix in the away section for those games?

oh wait nevermind i found it.

[belchardo]

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/hes-a-legend-club-why-sydney-fc-couldnt-let-ninkovic-go

ninkovic has signed with sydney for another 2 years.

bugger, really thought we were in with a shot there.

[belchardo]

kanta has signed on for another 2 seasons. Can't believe he is only 27!

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-kanta-signs-two-season-extension

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-league-s-worst-teams-to-play-off-for-spot-in-ffa-cup-20191219-p53lmd.html

no need to worry about the FFA cup anymore, we won't even qualify.

[Jeterpool]

What a crock of shit.

Put the teams into their relevant Federation draws one round earlier! Don't kick them out of the competition!

[The Dunster]

What a crock of shit.

Put the teams into their relevant Federation draws one round earlier! Don't kick them out of the competition!

Agreed.

[MFKS]

What a crock of shit.

Put the teams into their relevant Federation draws one round earlier! Don't kick them out of the competition!

Or better yet

Make it a Round of 64 comp

So another 30 odd clubs around the nation get involved on the big stage

Not that hard to do

[Frodo]

Nah, I'm 100% behind this. If you finish bottom of the table you still have a chance to win it. But seeing CCM knocked out before the other HAL teams will be great to watch. Imagine us next season having to beat them in pre season to even have a shot at winning the FFA cup, that's a huge motivation to get up to speed quick.

[Jeterpool]

Or better yet

Make it a Round of 64 comp

So another 30 odd clubs around the nation get involved on the big stage

Not that hard to do

That'd also work

[Jetmaster]

Annual cup derby.....

[Couscous]

On Stajic and GvE.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMOLWquUUAEjPoW?format=jpg

[MFKS]

On Stajic and GvE.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMOLWquUUAEjPoW?format=jpg

Get a solicitor Gary

[380]

She a real piece of work that woman.

[Couscous]

I have seen GVE working with female players and female staff at the AIS. He was consultative and encouraging.

[380]

I have seen GVE working with female players and female staff at the AIS. He was consultative and encouraging.

You know what they say about self praise Gary.

[MFKS]

She a real piece of work that woman.
Women being themselves actually

Eve showed the true nature of them in the good book

Offer them everything they need and they still find a way to want more andd find a way to **** things up

[Frodo]

Women being themselves actually

Eve showed the true nature of them in the good book

Offer them everything they need and they still find a way to want more andd find a way to **** things up

Yes, but they were talking about a real person. I don't hate all kids just because the ones in Harry Potter annoy the crap out of me...

[MFKS]

Yes, but they were talking about a real person. I don't hate all kids just because the ones in Harry Potter annoy the crap out of me...

Shouldn't be so disrespectful to your great great great great great great ..........grandmother

[plague]

On Stajic and GvE.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMOLWquUUAEjPoW?format=jpg

wait, where did this come from?
is this a social media post or something?

[Grimario]

wait, where did this come from?
is this a social media post or something?

That's a screenshot from Twitter, I think.

Not sure why they have hidden the time.

[Couscous]

wait, where did this come from?
is this a social media post or something?

Heather Reid's defamatory direct Twitter message, allegedly sent to about 20 media and football people.

[380]

Heather Reid's defamatory direct Twitter message, allegedly sent to about 20 media and football people.

All the gullible creatures ya mean, She has no right to have the AM in her title.

[StannyCFCJET]

So our fitness coach is gone as well

[belchardo]

So our fitness coach is gone as well

we had one?

[StannyCFCJET]

we had one?

Chris Smith off to work with the defence force

[MFKS]

So our fitness coach is gone as well

Considering we run out of legs late in games then it no great loss

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-league-could-be-global-test-case-for-live-var-communication-20191230-p53npg.html

oh joy, we're going to be a guinea pig again.

[StannyCFCJET]

According to some British media ive seen we handle VAR better then anyone else

[Frodo]

They just don't give a hoot about our barnyard league and our tiny number of fans.

[Grimario]

Chris Smith off to work with the defence force

Cheeky gig for him to get given how shoddy our defence has been.

[belchardo]

Cheeky gig for him to get given how shoddy our defence has been.

he might be training the opposition teams in the war games.

[MFKS]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-league-could-be-global-test-case-for-live-var-communication-20191230-p53npg.html

oh joy, we're going to be a guinea pig again.

I still pissing myself laughing at them referring to the HAL as a top level competition

**** who wrote that is living some delusion to think that

[StannyCFCJET]

Scott McDonald gone to Brisbane apparently

[Jetmaster]

Scott McDonald gone to Brisbane apparently

It would seem Roy has got offside with Fowler with events since Christmas.

[StannyCFCJET]

It would seem Roy has got offside with Fowler with events since Christmas.

I'd take Roy back

[Hunter403]

I reckon Roy leaving was just the Jets being unable to afford him at any price

[380]

I'd take Roy back

You clearly have not been watching the Roar this season and in particular Roy when he has been on the park. Shoulda coulda woulda would best describe his performaces. Still goes well at the thumbs up however, Has not lost that part of his game

[Couscous]

Some welcome news at last:

Looks like I can't holiday at the burnt-out South Coast later this month, so I'll come to Newy instead 🎉

[MFKS]

Some welcome news at last:

Looks like I can't holiday at the burnt-out South Coast later this month, so I'll come to Newy instead ��

Welcome back Gary

[sorefootballer]

Here for an interview Gary?

[Aegon]

I reckon Roy leaving was just the Jets being unable to afford him at any price

Wasn't the main reason (from both Roy and Lawrie) that the Jets wouldn't offer him a multi year contract?

[Jetmaster]

Wasn't the main reason (from both Roy and Lawrie) that the Jets wouldn't offer him a multi year contract?

Multi year costs more than one year...which was offered.

[baldrick]

The footnote in an article about potential new managers.


Meanwhile, a fringe Jets outfit went down 3-2 to Chinese Super League club Shanghai SIPG in a friendly at Central Coast Stadium on Tuesday night. Kaine Sheppard scored both of the Jets' goals.

Shanghai, who boast Brazilian internationals Oscar and Hulk, are in camp in Sydney ahead of the new season.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6580285/a-league-six-on-shortlist-for-jets-coaching-job/?cs=7580&utm_source=website&utm_medium=home&utm_campaign=latestnews


Where was our invite ???

[djjones]

Here for an interview Gary?

I saw Gary at the Jets Coastie yoof game. Interview time for mine.

[turbojetfireV8]

I saw Gary at the Jets Coastie yoof game. Interview time for mine.

he was actually at the Members afternoon when the Yoof played the Western Gypos too though, I took it as keeping his eye on potential national team candidates

[belchardo]

just got a club email saying moss is retiring at the end of the season.

[Jetmaster]

Markus unloads the truth bombs....

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/a-league-news-2020-western-sydney-wanderers-markus-babbel-sacked-bild-interview/news-story/d68647fd110f7f5451982bcbf6e5d0c5


it is incredible how bad the referees are doing.


Asked about the level of the A-League, Babbel replied: “To be honest, weak. “The pace is slow, there are many technical mistakes.


Also, because the training conditions are not good, last season we had to prepare in changing rooms and train in places that had little to do with professional football.


Babbel said the mentality of Australian players surprised him, suggesting many were too comfortable.


There are 22-year-olds who are already playing at (their) fifth club.

[redwah]

Markus unloads the truth bombs....

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/a-league-news-2020-western-sydney-wanderers-markus-babbel-sacked-bild-interview/news-story/d68647fd110f7f5451982bcbf6e5d0c5

Probably not a good advertisement for your own coaching abilities if you get sack by a club in a poor league.

[380]

I reckon he has called a spade a spade. He has said what most people who have watched the game from the old NSL days to now know.

I recall talking to a bloke at a home game one day from the UK and he was asked what he thought of the A League , His reply was " just like the EPL without the running and the ability " LOL.

[Frodo]

Hyundai supposedly not renewing or pulling their sponsorship next season.

[380]

Hyundai supposedly not renewing or pulling their sponsorship next season.

Would not surprise at all if this is the case. Some of us on here have been saying for ages now much to the despise of many the HAL is by any KPI heading South.

Poor management at HO.

Poor officiating season after season frustrating fans no end.

Clubs like ours offering lifelines to revolving door players who just simply aren't good enough with performances you can watch in the cooler months at your local NPL club.

To the best of my knowledge the National team has still not been able to attract a naming rights sponsor since the Caltex deal ceased.

Too many self interested types have talked up the league over the years for fear of being left behind and out of a job if the overall standard of the game was raised in this country.

Why would any corporate type want to tip in money through corporate partnership , sponsorship or otherwise on a product just simply not worth it and declining rapidly.

[The Dunster]

Hyundai / Kia are the best selling / leaders in Car Sales in Australia [Toyota in front if you count Toorak Tractors and Commercial type vehicles].
Why would they want their brand tarnished by the A-League.

Holden would be a more suitable sponsor. Reasons;

Shit Company
Lack of innovation
Completely out of date and touch with market leaders
Financial Basket Case
On the brink of bankruptcy
Hate their customers
No chance of ever turning things around.

It's a match made in Heaven.

[380]

This is all going to go to shit no doubt about it.

On top of any naming rights sponsorship issues and the reduced revenue that may come with just what will the game be worth in regards to the next lot broadcast deals because sure as shit that value will be down on previous.




As for perfect partners i would have thought Takata Airbags , Just sit back cruise and watch it all blow up in your face.

[The Dunster]

As for perfect partners i would have thought Takata Airbags , Just sit back cruise and watch it all blow up in your face.

Pure genius.:lulzturtle:

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/13/perth-glory-reach-agreement-with-blockchain-trading-firm-over-clubs-sale

Some block chain company has made an offer for 80% of perth.

This seems mighty strange.

[Tommyjet]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/13/perth-glory-reach-agreement-with-blockchain-trading-firm-over-clubs-sale

Some block chain company has made an offer for 80% of perth.

This seems mighty strange.

Pretty well a done deal. Sage becomes chairman of all the club's they buy. Apparently in negotiations to buy Crystal palace

[StannyCFCJET]

Pretty well a done deal. Sage becomes chairman of all the club's they buy. Apparently in negotiations to buy Crystal palace

Not the case at all. Mr Sage gave Simon Hill at statement to release on Twitter

[sorefootballer]

Mr Sage? C'mon stanny u are better than that. Sage could quite well be chairman or whatever u wanna call it of all the clubs as he will become chairman of LFE. Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't say that he couldn't be

[StannyCFCJET]

Mr Sage? C'mon stanny u are better than that. Sage could quite well be chairman or whatever u wanna call it of all the clubs as he will become chairman of LFE. Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't say that he couldn't be

No I mean in the case that the deal is pretty much done

[Frodo]

No I mean in the case that the deal is pretty much done

If Tony is talking up his new boss as if he works there. It's pretty much done.

[StannyCFCJET]

If Tony is talking up his new boss as if he works there. It's pretty much done.

Read the statement

[Bremsstrahlung]

Player wages to be paid in bitcoin

[sorefootballer]

Stanny, its a done deal. Internet doesn't lie

[Couscous]

https://i.imgur.com/4iKJbDI.jpg

[380]

Twice the footballer you ever were Gaz. Nice strike by the girl but how cool a head did Simon show.

[baldrick]

Nice strike by the girl but how cool a head did Simon show.

Simon holding the ball up before passing to EVE to score isn’t getting enough recognition. Outstanding.

[380]

Super cool in the moment for sure under the circumstances. I recorded the game and watched it back numerous times and Simon's actions were very calculated.

She is a very talented footballer is K Simon and one of our best when not struggling with injuries.

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/no-regrets-for-olyroos-star-who-chose-hip-hop-over-tokyo-2020-20200220-p542on.html

doesn't exactly sound like joey is coming back.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Moreover, towards the end:

“Clubs can be “relegated” for finishing last in 3 consecutive seasons or last 4 out of 6.”

[turbojetfireV8]

Hoole done for DUI

https://video.nbnnews.com.au/hoolecourt120320.mp4

[MFKS]

Second offence FMD

How weak are our courts when all you get is that weak punishment for 2nd offence

[The Dunster]

Second offence FMD

How weak are our courts when all you get is that weak punishment for 2nd offence

Agreed. I think too many precedents have been created by cashed up types to avoid big penalties and as a result its trickled down to the average joe.

THis is a list of the penalties imposed in NSW for driving under the influence: https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/demerits-offences/drug-alcohol/drug-alcohol-offences.html

Accordingly a 2nd offence for low range should be a 6 month suspension and $572 fine. Hoole appears to have received some pretty good legal representation

[belchardo]

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has announced all travellers except those from Pacific nations will be required to self-isolate for 14 days upon arrival in the country.


That includes New Zealand citizens and comes into effect from 10.00pm AEDT on Sunday.



wellington have the following games for the rest of the season:

18/3 - Sydney in sydney
22/3 - newcastle in newcastle
5/4 - adelaide in wellington
12/4 - perth in perth
19/4 - brisbane in wellington
25/4 - wanderers in sydney

clearly it isn't possible for teams to travel to NZ, i don't see them hanging out in Australia for another 6 weeks.

I don't think this season will be completed.

[mic22]

wellington have the following games for the rest of the season:

18/3 - Sydney in sydney
22/3 - newcastle in newcastle
5/4 - adelaide in wellington
12/4 - perth in perth
19/4 - brisbane in wellington
25/4 - wanderers in sydney

clearly it isn't possible for teams to travel to NZ, i don't see them hanging out in Australia for another 6 weeks.

I don't think this season will be completed.

Also, the experiment of playing behind closed doors was a disaster in Italy, with several players resulting positive to the virus.
Closing down now for a few weeks is the best choice (and not just for football!)
10000+ today at the stadium for the Knights... not a good sign.

[Grimario]

i don't see them hanging out in Australia for another 6 weeks.

That's exactly what was just announced. They will play all home games in Oz and no returning to NZ.

[MFKS]

wellington have the following games for the rest of the season:

18/3 - Sydney in sydney
22/3 - newcastle in newcastle
5/4 - adelaide in wellington
12/4 - perth in perth
19/4 - brisbane in wellington
25/4 - wanderers in sydney

clearly it isn't possible for teams to travel to NZ, i don't see them hanging out in Australia for another 6 weeks.

I don't think this season will be completed.



You do realise we got the longest off season in the world
No drama tacking an extra 4 weeks onto it


No one watches or cares anyway

[Bon]

So apparently FFA just announced that all A-League matches to continue behind closed doors and all games to be in Straya..

[belchardo]

So apparently FFA just announced that all A-League matches to continue behind closed doors and all games to be in Straya..

Wellington and victory will need to reschedule as they won't be able to play for 2 weeks.

Thinking outside the box, we should send every team to NZ on the same day. That way they can all play without breaking quarantine. I has ideas!

[Jeterpool]

So apparently FFA just announced that all A-League matches to continue behind closed doors and all games to be in Straya..

I assume our match this weekend will not proceed in that case, given we play Wellington this weekend.

[MFKS]

So apparently FFA just announced that all A-League matches to continue behind closed doors and all games to be in Straya..

Just shows how inept the FFA are



All games behind closed doors in the HAL for the rest of the season

NPL and every amateur games to go ahead


****ing joke

We getting any money back for the 4 games we gonna be denied going to as Members due to this farce??

[Frodo]

Just shows how inept the FFA are



All games behind closed doors in the HAL for the rest of the season

NPL and every amateur games to go ahead


****ing joke

We getting any money back for the 4 games we gonna be denied going to as Members due to this farce??

You should be thanking them for saving us having to watch the half a team of Coasties we have running round now anyway.

[Jeterpool]

Just shows how inept the FFA are



All games behind closed doors in the HAL for the rest of the season

NPL and every amateur games to go ahead


****ing joke

We getting any money back for the 4 games we gonna be denied going to as Members due to this farce??

:facepalm:

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/03/18/a-league-set-to-unveil-revamped-east-coast-only-draw/

Possible changes to the draw

[Frodo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/03/18/a-league-set-to-unveil-revamped-east-coast-only-draw/

Possible changes to the draw

Makes sense I guess.

I'm totally fine with cancelling the finals series personally, but I understand that I am a minority there. Would simplify things tho.

[StannyCFCJET]

Makes sense I guess.

I'm totally fine with cancelling the finals series personally, but I understand that I am a minority there. Would simplify things tho.

Should be happen agreed, but then what are the other clubs playing for?

[Jeterpool]

Should be happen agreed, but then what are the other clubs playing for?

We're playing for a spot in the round of 32 right now - wanting to avoid the playoff against the Mariners, but I take your point.

Further to it, if we take first past the post, why are Wellington here?

[StannyCFCJET]

We're playing for a spot in the round of 32 right now - wanting to avoid the playoff against the Mariners, but I take your point.

Further to it, if we take first past the post, why are Wellington here?

Great point on the Nix and they will be pissed off

[redwah]

Don’t sydney and Melbourne have the most case of infected people in the country...I can see why you’d play all games in those cities.....more derbies yay

[Jeterpool]

Don’t sydney and Melbourne have the most case of infected people in the country...I can see why you’d play all games in those cities.....more derbies yay

Other than postponing it, there's no right answer here. Sydney and Melbourne are probably the easiest to arrange.

I could only suggest moving it to a reasonable sized regional town. It could give their most-likely vacant hotels and local businesses some income they otherwise wouldn't be getting. A place that had maybe 3 decent pitches.

Don't know where that would be, just thinking outside the box

[redwah]

If we get based to play in Sydney do we become the north north Sydney jets? I mean there will be the North Sydney gypos and the north north North Sydney roar so why not...Nix will be the East Sydney nix..and still have as many fans as teams from that area get to games anyway

[mic22]

From the jets website:

The boys will head to the Gold Coast to take on Brisbane Roar this Friday 20 March from 7.30pm (AEDT), in place of the Round 27 fixture between the two sides which has been brought forward.

Then, it’s a quick turnaround as we return back to Newcastle and to McDonald Jones Stadium to take on Melbourne City on Monday 23 March

[Hunter403]

From the jets website:

The boys will head to the Gold Coast to take on Brisbane Roar this Friday 20 March from 7.30pm (AEDT), in place of the Round 27 fixture between the two sides which has been brought forward.

Then, it’s a quick turnaround as we return back to Newcastle and to McDonald Jones Stadium to take on Melbourne City on Monday 23 March

Flying or a coach?

[MFKS]

These dumb ****s at the FFA know that we have the longest off season in history don't they??

What the **** is wrong with just calling shot off for a month right now and then seeing how things are just like every other League on the planet has done??

What is the idea with shooting ourselves in the foot by playing behind closed doors now for the sake of it??

Does it matter if the season finishes a month or two later than planned where fans can watch the games ??

****ing Idiots

[mic22]

These dumb ****s at the FFA know that we have the longest off season in history don't they??

What the **** is wrong with just calling shot off for a month right now and then seeing how things are just like every other League on the planet has done??

What is the idea with shooting ourselves in the foot by playing behind closed doors now for the sake of it??

Does it matter if the season finishes a month or two later than planned where fans can watch the games ??

****ing Idiots

The way things are going in Europe, football is irrelevant.
Euro 2020 has been postponed to 2021, and (my opinion) it's very unlikely that European leagues will restart this season. 20/21 if they're lucky.
So, based on the European experience, I think FFA is trying to finish this season in the shortest time possible, before shit hits the fan (and it will).
I'll be watching the games, but honestly football is not high in my priorities right now.

[StannyCFCJET]

AFL shutdown, Expect us to do the same unless we follow the dumb asses at the NRL and try and keep going for $$$$$$$$$$ reasons

[MFKS]

AFL shutdown, Expect us to do the same unless we follow the dumb asses at the NRL and try and keep going for $$$$$$$$$$ reasons

Stanny

You do realise how stupid the ****s are who run the FFA are??

[belchardo]

AFL shutdown, Expect us to do the same unless we follow the dumb asses at the NRL and try and keep going for $$$$$$$$$$ reasons

Still playing apparently

[sorefootballer]

The way things are going in Europe, football is irrelevant.
Euro 2020 has been postponed to 2021, and (my opinion) it's very unlikely that European leagues will restart this season. 20/21 if they're lucky.
So, based on the European experience, I think FFA is trying to finish this season in the shortest time possible, before shit hits the fan (and it will).
I'll be watching the games, but honestly football is not high in my priorities right now.

Totally agree, we need to suspend our competition immediately. Coming from a health professional we all need to be smarter and stay away from eachother. This is going to get far far worse than any of us realise. Buckle up ladies and gents, this shits real

[belchardo]

Season suspended to 22 April

[StannyCFCJET]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/mariners-and-roar-join-glory-in-standing-down-players-and-staff-without-pay We are next

[MFKS]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/mariners-and-roar-join-glory-in-standing-down-players-and-staff-without-pay We are next

Gypos finally getting paid what they deserve to be getting anyway

[StannyCFCJET]

Gypos finally getting paid what they deserve to be getting anyway

And us? We've been just as shit as them, 3 wooden spoons each with less finals and GF appearances

[Frodo]

And us? We've been just as shit as them, 3 wooden spoons each with less finals and GF appearances

And his true colours shine bright.

[StannyCFCJET]

And his true colours shine bright.

Facts are facts no matter how we feel about em

[Couscous]

My reputation (that colour bar on the left) on this website is as bad as Stanny's, yet I (a) support the Jets and (b) regularly offer useful advice to the team.

This reflects poorly all of you.

[StannyCFCJET]

My reputation (that colour bar on the left) on this website is as bad as Stanny's, yet I (a) support the Jets and (b) regularly offer useful advice to the team.

This reflects poorly all of you.

You also got us a wooden spoon right after winning the comp

[MFKS]

And us? We've been just as shit as them, 3 wooden spoons each with less finals and GF appearances

They got 4 wooden spoons

Get your facts right

[StannyCFCJET]

They got 4 wooden spoons

Get your facts right

This season isnt over yet

[MFKS]

This season isnt over yet

They ain't climbing off the bottom though are they??

4 games to go 7 points behind 2nd last

Trophy staying in Gosford is all theirs

[cobra23]

This season isnt over yet

go back to bluetongue you gypsy

First you hijack the Liverpool thread , now your hijacking the jets thread :hijack:

[pv4]

My reputation (that colour bar on the left)

You see a bar??

https://i.imgur.com/7NkiE18.png

[belchardo]

wanderers have stood down their squad too.

[StannyCFCJET]

Our squad and staff stood down, They have registered for jobkeeper payments

[MFKS]

Our squad and staff stood down, They have registered for jobkeeper payments

Hopefully a few don't get re hired

Gypo CEO should use this opportunity to cull the squad of players we don't want

[mic22]

Our squad and staff stood down, They have registered for jobkeeper payments

I honestly can't see how the A league will be able to restart when so many clubs are virtually left with no players.

And to all the employers who see this as an opportunity to sack staff and "restructure" their companies... f%cking cowards, I hope they all go bankrupt. Disgusting human beings.

[MFKS]

I honestly can't see how the A league will be able to restart when so many clubs are virtually left with no players.

And to all the employers who see this as an opportunity to sack staff and "restructure" their companies... f%cking cowards, I hope they all go bankrupt. Disgusting human beings.

You do realise they are mostly doing it to get government hand outs for free??

[mic22]

You do realise they are mostly doing it to get government hand outs for free??

I can't see how they can receive the hand out if they have sacked the employee.
i might be missing something.

[MFKS]

I can't see how they can receive the hand out if they have sacked the employee.
i might be missing something.

Dotting the I s and crossing the T s of them going into hardship mode

[The Dunster]

I can't see how they can receive the hand out if they have sacked the employee.
i might be missing something.

The subsidy is backdated to March 1st. If you were permanently employed then you qualify. For casuals, you had to be in the job for 12 months or more.

The program will see the lion's share of the money going to companies / employees that don't really need it - because the businesses in genuine trouble can't afford to pay the workers up front then wait it out for reimbursement.

The bulk of casual / part time workers and practically everyone in retail that's not at least a manager won't get a cent because they are more easily substituted / replaced than footballers who are heavily protected from competition by a strong union representation.

On top of that, given the subsidy is a minimum of $750 gross per week - there's little to no incentive to save any workers on less than that income as you'd effectively be giving them a pay rise for nothing.

If the story is true about the Jets applying for this subsidy it won't go down too well with the fans that's for sure - especially the many low income / casually employed ones struggling under the current situation.

[Jetmaster]

I work in the industry and details are sketchy until legislation comes through so we don't have the full detail.

Firstly, Jobkeeper Payment is only payable to companies who can prove a 30% reduction in revenue via the tax system. Some companies, like mine will take a few months to get that far. So in some businesses people can still be stood down because there is no meaningful work for them to do and the business is still above that 30% dropoff.

It is a government payment for companies to hold onto the jobs in hibernation, not a wage "subsidy" in principle. So yes, a part time shop assistant will get the same amount of money as their full time manager....difficult concept to grasp at the moment. You cannot look at it as a "payrise" for those on lesser wages. And yes that means most people will be paid $750 a week to stay home and do nothing as long as the job is in hibernation. The payment is taxable.

You can't terminate employees and get paid for them...and once they take their entitlements and are terminated you cannot put someone else there then take the payment, or bring them back.

All businesses, including sports clubs should at least register....that is all that is happening at the moment. And yes if the Jets claim in a few months time our players will get $1500 (less tax) a fortnight....probably enough to pay their rents.

Hopefully legislation will go through over the weekend and we'll know more on Monday.

[Jeterpool]

I can't see how they can receive the hand out if they have sacked the employee.
i might be missing something.

I don't interpret them as sacking them. They are essentially sending them off without pay. When the league resumes they will return to their roles and no longer receive support from the government.

[Jetmaster]

I don't interpret them as sacking them. They are essentially sending them off without pay. When the league resumes they will return to their roles and no longer receive support from the government.

Correct - Jobkeeper is a job "placeholder", not a wage replacement - the reason for the $1500 is that it has to be above the current $1100 Jobseeker payment for those that are actually sacked and are looking for work.

[pv4]

When the league resumes

Sadly, it is honestly difficult to see how this even happens, regardless of when.

[mic22]

I don't interpret them as sacking them. They are essentially sending them off without pay. When the league resumes they will return to their roles and no longer receive support from the government.
I was referring to the general scenario of employers cashing in on the subsidy, as mfks suggested - not the Jets specifically.
So yeah... no employee, no subsidy.

[StannyCFCJET]

If the league returns the salary cap will either be miles smaller or not exist but clubs still wont pay players anything close to what they get now, Which makes recruiting good overseas players hard

[mic22]

So, as I understand, the main reason behind all this is Fux refusing to pay and possibly willing to rescind the contract with 3 years to go.
A-league is not delivering on their part... due to a global pandemic. So is any other sport on the planet.
Is Fux going to walk away from their deals with, say, NRL? AFL? Supercars? Formula1? Tennis? Whatever else?
C'mon Rupert, show some guts.

These times are showing what many of our "leaders" are made of...

[MFKS]

If the league returns the salary cap will either be miles smaller or not exist but clubs still wont pay players anything close to what they get now, Which makes recruiting good overseas players hard

If this happens it be the best thing that could happen

Players in Oz need to be paid less

Players need to be driven to move overseas

Clubs need to be forced to develop players for transfer overseas

Not recycling your Fitzuseless types and not seeing blokes getting paid 100k plus for 10 years in the league like your Boogaards and Moss Hoff and Kant's types

[MFKS]

So, as I understand, the main reason behind all this is Fux refusing to pay and possibly willing to rescind the contract with 3 years to go.
A-league is not delivering on their part... due to a global pandemic. So is any other sport on the planet.
Is Fux going to walk away from their deals with, say, NRL? AFL? Supercars? Formula1? Tennis? Whatever else?
C'mon Rupert, show some guts.

These times are showing what many of our "leaders" are made of...

Optus announced no billing until May or some shit today due to Corona

[The Dunster]

I cancelled Kayo this week. Great service but pointless paying for something I can't use.

[StannyCFCJET]

Optus announced no billing until May or some shit today due to Corona

No they didn't, They announced ways they can help you but nothing about bills

[MFKS]

No they didn't, They announced ways they can help you but nothing about bills

I got an email saying I won't be billed until end of May 31st

I got no idea why they would send this to me if they planning on billing me

Seems like a PR nightmare to do something that dumb

[StannyCFCJET]

I got an email saying I won't be billed until end of May 31st

I got no idea why they would send this to me if they planning on billing me

Seems like a PR nightmare to do something that dumb

Hopefully I get one for my phone then but nothing on the web or their website says thats happening.

[MFKS]

Hopefully I get one for my phone then but nothing on the web or their website says thats happening.

I dont have it as part of my phone package

I just pay them $15 month for Optus Sport

I don't even use Optus for anything else

[StannyCFCJET]

I dont have it as part of my phone package

I just pay them $15 month for Optus Sport

I don't even use Optus for anything else

Oh you meant Optus sport not optus in general

[Jeterpool]

I cancelled Kayo this week. Great service but pointless paying for something I can't use.

As did we.

[StannyCFCJET]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgBgFhFnI4M

The Dukes tells all

[turbojetfireV8]

Could A-League continue by July:


Soccer: July more realistic goal for A-League to kick on
James Gardiner
Newcastle Jets

JETS chief executive Lawrie McKinna is not expecting the A-League to get the green light on April 22 to resume and believes July is a more realistic time frame for the game to kick back into gear.

It has been just over two weeks since the Jets beat Melbourne City 2-1 at McDonald Jones Stadium in the final game before the league was put on hold due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Football Federation Australia will reassess the situation on April 22. The spread of the virus has slowed but unless border restrictions and social distancing directives are loosened - scenarios which are extremely unlikely - the season will remain on hold.


The Jets had a player test positive to COVID-19 last Friday, but McKinna said the player, who was asymptomatic, had since been cleared. No other player or staff member has developed symptoms.

The Jets were among seven clubs to stand down players and staff last week. The club has registered for the Jobkeeper allowance for staff, which will ease the financial stress by $750 a fortnight. The players are continuing to train in isolation in hope of a return to the pitch.

"Unless there are major changes to the isolation laws, I can't see that date being when we tick in," McKinna said. "The rate of spread is going down, but if we stop what we are doing they will increase again."

Professional Footballers Australia players union had threatened legal action against the clubs but are now working with them and the A-League to find a workable solution.

Clubs have been asked to put forward potential competition models for this season and next.

The submissions will be presented to the chairman of the Australian Professional Football Clubs Association Paul Lederer to work through with the PFA.

Under the Jets proposal, the current season would resume in August after a short pre-season. The concluding rounds and final series would be played, finishing in early October. The new 12-team competition would kick off in November with a 22-game home-and-away season culminating in May.

"If we can complete the season, I think we should," McKinna said. "You could still honour your season tickets, sponsors would get exposure and the finals series would provide a revenue stream for clubs. It would also whet the appetite for the new season."

The extension of the season, would require changes to contracts which expire on May 31.

"Obviously that is something we would have to work through with the PFA," McKinna said. "Contracts could be extended or players could sign short term deals. Our transfer window goes from July to October and you could extend it to November. Boys out of contract would be playing for new deals at their club or somewhere else.

"There are AFC requirements as well. Everyone will be understanding of contracts because it is happening all over the world."

McKinna said if football wasn't able to resume until September, the best move would be to start afresh with a new season.

"We want what suits us but also is what is best for the league," McKinna said. "You don't want to be away from the game too long. You want to get the boys back in training and you want to get them back playing games. But you want it to be safe for everybody. We are looking at how we see it best fitting into a schedule to get back to normal as possible.

"It would work for us and it would work for fans. If you look at social media it is football, football, football. You miss it. It is not just going to games. It is the interaction with people, the banter."

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/the-turbulence-is-self-inflicted-departing-ffa-technical-boss-leaves-scathing-manifesto-in-his-wake-20200407-p54hsr.html

ooof, that's a nice parting shot there.

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6653056594605154304/

full letter. I haven't read the full letter yet, so could be a complete media beat up. i do like the idea of abolishing the state federations.

[turbojetfireV8]

Decision on season now put off till May

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/update-hyundai-a-league-201920-season

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/plans-for-private-ownership-of-a-league-still-on-table-after-ffa-talks-with-us-firm-20200424-p54n1g.html

FFA might sell a stake of the league to private parties - like IMG.

Also


Meanwhile, private investors are also circling A-League clubs in the hope of a finding a bargain. Park Lane, a US investment bank which specialises in helping cashed-up clients buy sporting teams, is keeping an eye on all major Australian sports, including football, and has already made an informal approach to one A-League club.


Newcastle Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna confirmed he had received a call from Park Lane to discuss the club's ownership situation.



"We just had a wee chat, which is fine - I'm always open for a chat. You never know what will happen," McKinna said.


The Jets are owned by Chinese lighting magnate Martin Lee but the club has been seeking additional investment for some time, with Lee unable to cover increased financial losses on his own.

[turbojetfireV8]

FFA enlists ex-Socceroo stars to help sort FFA's shit out

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/new-ffa-starting-xi-panel-could-revolutionise-football-in-australia-news-aleague-ffa-socceroos-matildas-mark-viduka/news-story/463d53cb82f747969efb88d58bc17625

[Hunter403]

From today's SMH

A-League clubs are preparing for a competition re-start in August with Wellington Phoenix to base in NSW for a two-week quarantine period.
While Football Federation Australia (FFA) is yet to officially detail the league's resumption, clubs are preparing for a July training phase ahead of an August return to games.
The league was suspended on March 24 with five rounds, plus finals, remaining.
All games are likely to be played in Sydney at venues without spectators.
Phoenix will follow the path of the Warriors in the NRL in flying to Australia for a 14-day isolation period ahead of training.

"A bit like the Warriors, we would head over for two weeks of quarantine," Wellington's general manager David Dome told the NZ Herald.
"We would train for a couple of weeks, then go out of isolation, then train for two more weeks ... then hit the ground with the resumption of the A-League."

The remainder of the A-League season may be played out in Sydney, meaning Melbourne clubs would potentially have to relocate interstate.
Dome said the health of Wellington players remained top priority before the competition resumed after halting because of the global coronavirus pandemic.
"We have to make sure the right protocols are in place," he said.
"We've said from day one it has to be about the safety of the players, no one wants to put them at risk.
"We want to make sure we have the best possible options, processes, procedures and structures in place."
While Sydney was the expected hub, Dome said sufficient training venues and match-day venues were yet to be settled.
"We have to find venues for all the teams coming in from the other states and we have to find grounds to play in," he said.
"There's quite a bit of work to get through and we want to make sure we get that stuff right."
Perth Glory owner Tony Sage said ground availability was a pressing question, given the NRL would return from May 28 and use some stadiums used by soccer.
"The difficulty we have now is in NSW with the NRL playing, what grounds are available because the two big ones - Kogarah and Bankwest Stadium - will obviously be used for NRL," Sage told Perth radio station 91.3 Sport FM.
"That is an added complication to the mix so the FFA obviously have got the whole of May and June to work out logistics."
Sage said it would be easier for the league and clubs to be based in the same city.
"It's just easier with all of the players having the same conditions - quarantine, testing," he said.
"If you have it in the five different states, it's five different testing regimes for the players, it might not happen on an equal basis.
"So I think the hub idea is a lot better than doing that."
AAP

[mic22]

3 teams based in Newcastle.
2/3 teams based in Gosford.
6/5 teams based in Sydney.

It would work a lot better, plenty more room for training and games.

[Frodo]

They should play all the games out of Gosford. (Send CCM games down to Sydney if need be). Hold the finals at Gosford as well.

Training and Hotels would be different, but 2-3 games a day at Gosford without rain would be easy for it to deal with. Get this season over with so we can force Foxtel to pay up for the remainder of their deal.

[Jeterpool]

They should play all the games out of Gosford. (Send CCM games down to Sydney if need be). Hold the finals at Gosford as well.

Training and Hotels would be different, but 2-3 games a day at Gosford without rain would be easy for it to deal with. Get this season over with so we can force Foxtel to pay up for the remainder of their deal.

Not a bad shout. A good surface and one that isn't being used by League....yet

[mic22]

Not a bad shout. A good surface and one that isn't being used by League....yet

Newcastle is not going to be used by League either (is this correct?)

[Jeterpool]

Newcastle is not going to be used by League either (is this correct?)

No idea. Can't say I've been following what the NRL have been planning or doing.

[StannyCFCJET]

NRL is playing in Sydney I believe

[Jetmaster]

So MJ might be available too.

[turbojetfireV8]

Talk of Newcastle as a possible part of the base for A-League restart


MAY 6 2020 - 8:00AM
A-League: Newcastle Jets' base looms as part of return flight plan
Craig Kerry
Local Sport


Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna believes Newcastle could become part of a wider hub, taking in the Central Coast and Sydney, for the A-League to be based to complete its season in August.

Football Federation Australia is aiming to finish the 2019-20 season, after a return to training in July, in line with predicted downgrades in COVID-19 restrictions.

The Jets beat second-placed Melbourne City 2-1 on March 23 at McDonald Jones Stadium in the last match played before the A-League was suspended because of the pandemic.

With 27 regular-season games remaining, the A-League is looking to follow the NRL in creating a hub base in NSW for teams to finish a condensed schedule of matches behind closed doors.


McKinna said preliminary plans were to complete the regular season in an 18-day window with finals to also be played inside of August.

Given the NRL's use of Sydney grounds in the same period, McKinna said McDonald Jones Stadium could host A-Leagues matches featuring teams other than the Jets.

"We don't know, because they said it could be one hub, it could be two hubs," McKinna said of early talks.

"It was very vague on Friday, but I would say that they would look at using our venue, the Central Coast's and Sydney venues as venues anyway."

Newcastle are ninth on 24 points, three points outside the top six, with four matches to play. Home matches against Wellington and Western United and away clashes with Central Coast and Sydney were part of the original draw but McKinna said that could change.

"They will not necessarily give us two home games, it will be just four games," he said.

"It could be double-headers here with us playing someone and maybe the Mariners playing someone else.

"They just want to get the outstanding league games played as soon as possible."

A new NRL draw is yet to be released, but McKinna believed there would be no problem sharing McDonald Jones Stadium with the Newcastle Knights during the hectic schedule.

McKinna was confident likely relaxation of travel restrictions would allow coaches Carl Robinson and Kenny Miller to return from overseas for training in July but he was unsure about the club's imports.

Joe Ledley and Bobby Burns have returned home but Wes Hoolahan and Abdiel Arroyo remain in Australia.

"Joe Ledley is back there now, Bobby Burns was out here on loan, so it's just if we can get them back out here for two months," he said.

"That's up in the air. But Joe only started one game and if Wes wasn't here, he only played a couple of games at the end so we are all right.

"Everybody else will be available, apart from a couple of boys at the moment. We'd be hopeful we could put a strong team out. Other teams will be in the same boat as us. Some don't have coaches here and some of their foreign players are gone."

The Jets are only three points outside the finals but their top-six rivals have games in hand.

McKinna believed Newcastle would be in good shape to make a late push.

"If you went off the last eight weeks, we'd be sitting second in the comp," he said.

"Us and Brisbane were the in-form teams but obviously everyone is going to be starting from scratch again.

"We're really happy with how the boys are going doing the self-training, so it will be really interesting how other teams have done. Some might not be as strict as others."

A-League player contracts finish at the end of May, meaning changes will need to be made to get the season on again in August.

"The PFA, FFA and the clubs will be starting talks this week, because that has to get looked at now," McKinna said.

"You could extend [contracts] or get new squads, but I would think the simplest thing is to extend by three months."

[Hunter403]

To snatch parts of the article...

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/pfa-y-league-does-not-meet-the-needs-of-australian-footbal-547814

Professional Footballers Australia (PFA) has declared that Australia’s premier youth competition – the Y-League – “does not meet the needs of the players, A-League clubs or Australian football,” in a new research study released on Wednesday morning.
Examining the past five years of the Y-League, which marks the time period in which it switched to its current format, the PFA tracked the career progression of over 700 players that have appeared in the competition and surveyed 110 youngsters to create the report - which follows on from their 2019 study examining the development of Australia's Golden Generation.

The report found the Academy of Western Sydney Wanderers sent the most players to the A-League, 25 youngsters moving into the Red and Black’s senior squad from the academy, closely followed by Adelaide United (24) and Melbourne City (22). Perth Glory (11) and Newcastle Jets (10) harvested the least from their academy setups whereas, despite closing following the 2016/17 season, the FFA CoE still sent 16 players to the A-League (albeit they needed to move to other clubs to be able to do so).

[mic22]

Seems like we'll have 3 home games once the season resumes, possibly with up to 8250 in attendance

[Jetmaster]

Seems like we'll have 3 home games once the season resumes, possibly with up to 8250 in attendance

Members only probably.

[380]

Members only probably.

That seems reasonable

[StannyCFCJET]

They should let the people who attend the most home games. Go first. Reward the most loyal

[Bremsstrahlung]

They should let the people who attend the most home games. Go first. Reward the most loyal

Don’t know if it’s like the EPL where there can track stuff like that.
But makes sense to reward long term members. And maybe a random allocation for others if there are proper restrictions still by the time the season resumes.... in 2021
At the moment I think they could probably stick with people that are interested in going.

[380]

[QUOTE=StannyCFCJET;239296]They should let the people who attend the most home games. Go first. Reward the most loyal[/QUOTE

That would be the members, They pay up to attend all home games ?.

[StannyCFCJET]

[QUOTE=StannyCFCJET;239296]They should let the people who attend the most home games. Go first. Reward the most loyal[/QUOTE

That would be the members, They pay up to attend all home games ?.

Yeah but do all members attend most games?

[380]

Off course not, Whats your point ?.

Are you suggesting season ticket holders/members should miss out to people who don't ?. Pretty absurd reasoning to prioritize non members over paid up members.


Think about it for a moment but it pretty stupid if you attend more games than a member and to not purchase membership don't ya reckon ?.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I think Stanny is perhaps referencing how a lot of EPL clubs do it for big games.

So for example, Liverpool vs Everton derby games go on sale and there is additional criteria to purchase tickets. Eg must have attended at least 16 home games, and UCL games last season.
Or for like an FA cup final, the criteria may be, must have attended all previous FA Cup games.
Basically gives priority to those that are attending all the games, no matter how big or small.
Then the criteria gets lessened as tickets are still available.
Eventually tickets go on general sale with no criteria.


In reality, I don’t think that works here, we aren’t that big.

[380]

I think Stanny is perhaps referencing how a lot of EPL clubs do it for big games.

So for example, Liverpool vs Everton derby games go on sale and there is additional criteria to purchase tickets. Eg must have attended at least 16 home games, and UCL games last season.
Or for like an FA cup final, the criteria may be, must have attended all previous FA Cup games.
Basically gives priority to those that are attending all the games, no matter how big or small.
Then the criteria gets lessened as tickets are still available.
Eventually tickets go on general sale with no criteria.


In reality, I don’t think that works here, we aren’t that big.

Absolutely right you are but this is just a resumption of the season and any suggestion to allow people to attend over members who purchased there ticket 6 months ago is just poorly thought through.

[My2BobsWorth]

Iv'e been complaining about members rights for years now, both here and the Herald but nothing changes. I wouldn't be surprised if all the tickets went to NNSW dickheads and cronies, and sponsors cronies who never go to a regular game.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Absolutely right you are but this is just a resumption of the season and any suggestion to allow people to attend over members who purchased there ticket 6 months ago is just poorly thought through.

Agree.
Surely it would only be members/sponsors.

[StannyCFCJET]

Absolutely right you are but this is just a resumption of the season and any suggestion to allow people to attend over members who purchased there ticket 6 months ago is just poorly thought through.

Yeah but give it to the members who turn up. Not the ones with memberships but don't attend. We have 12k members but never 12k crowds

[380]

IMO the club should reward those ticket holders top down ( keeping in mind i am a GA pensioner so i would be at the very ass end of this preference proposal ). Tickets for entry in the following order

Sponsors and there usual allocation
Gold
Silver
Red Blue ( Me )

Platinum wherever the hell that fits in.


Once all the top groups are covered for tickets then ballot the rest, Have a standby list once past 8250. All those from the top groups have up til 48hrs before kick off to advise the club if they will have any no shows so those unused tickets can be offered to the standby list. Any of those unused tickets from the upper categories where the club was not informed and given the opportunity to redistribute that particular allocation then the club should tell them they forfeit that seat for the next game and will go into the GA ballot.

I have no problem with missing out to somebody who pays more than me, If i have to miss out to somebody paying 3 to 4 times my membership cost but i still get to sit at home watch my team hear and see a real crowd on the Fox broadcast i can live with that for the few remaining games.

[StannyCFCJET]

IMO the club should reward those ticket holders top down ( keeping in mind i am a GA pensioner so i would be at the very ass end of this preference proposal ). Tickets for entry in the following order

Sponsors and there usual allocation
Gold
Silver
Red Blue ( Me )

Platinum wherever the hell that fits in.


Once all the top groups are covered for tickets then ballot the rest, Have a standby list once past 8250. All those from the top groups have up til 48hrs before kick off to advise the club if they will have any no shows so those unused tickets can be offered to the standby list. Any of those unused tickets from the upper categories where the club was not informed and given the opportunity to redistribute that particular allocation then the club should tell them they forfeit that seat for the next game and will go into the GA ballot.

I have no problem with missing out to somebody who pays more than me, If i have to miss out to somebody paying 3 to 4 times my membership cost but i still get to sit at home watch my team hear and see a real crowd on the Fox broadcast i can live with that for the few remaining games.

Yeah but if it shows that higher spender rarely attends games should they still get priority?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Unfortunately money makes the world go round.
Sponsors pay a premium and expect to be looked after.
If they aren’t, they take their cash elsewhere and club misses out.

Not saying it’s right or wrong, just how things work.

[380]

Yeah but if it shows that higher spender rarely attends games should they still get priority?

Geez your a bit anal about all this. The club is going to have to come up with a way of dealing with this in a not so perfect environment, You got a better way then post it here.

I have to to trust that those with higher cost membership do the right thing and advise the club they will not be attending thus allowing that opportunity to a GA. After all we are all supporters of the club and want what is best for it all BS and banter aside.

I don't want to see the club burn its highest souces of revenue do you ?, They clearly struggle in this area season after season as it is.

As long as its members and not seldoms i can live with it for 3 games.

Like i said feel free to post how you would do it.

[mic22]

They struggled to reach 8250 without any restriction before the interruption... members or not.
I don't really see a problem here, there won't be much demand for tickets imo.
But it makes sense to prioritise members, since they have already paid!
But then, watch the attendance of max 5000...

[Jetmaster]

They struggled to reach 8250 without any restriction before the interruption... members or not.
I don't really see a problem here, there won't be much demand for tickets imo.
But it makes sense to prioritise members, since they have already paid!
But then, watch the attendance of max 5000...

This....the simple thing is members only, first come first served. I doubt we would get the full 8250 anyway. If the crowd is 5000 so be it....its more than we expected anyway. You can't have casuals (or away fans for that matter...pseudo Gypo ban) milling around for a ticket. Games will be to close together to organise ballots etc

[mic22]

This said, the club could use some extra $$$
If they could know how many members are not going to attend, they could make the seats available on ticketmaster - first come first serve basis.
Even if it's just 500-1000 tix, why not?

[380]

They struggled to reach 8250 without any restriction before the interruption... members or not.
I don't really see a problem here, there won't be much demand for tickets imo.
But it makes sense to prioritise members, since they have already paid!
But then, watch the attendance of max 5000...

That won't work i don't think, If by some chance more turn up at the gate than allowed in who wants the job of telling people to walk back to there cars and head on home. The club could not possibly leave it to chance that the limited number or less will only show at the gates.

[The Dunster]

The club had measures in place to control the size of crowds - but now with Jackson out injured they need a new plan.

[380]

At least the scum down the road will not need to worry about it, They have had plenty of practice in recent years at limiting there crowds.

[Bon]

The club had measures in place to control the size of crowds - but now with Jackson out injured they need a new plan.

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