17/18 HAL Round 16 | Newcastle Jets v Brisbane Roar | Fri 12th Jan 2018 07:50pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2017/18 Round 16 Newcastle Jets v Brisbane Roar

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 38 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 15, Roar Wins - 14, Drawn - 9


In Newcastle – 20 matches.
Jets Wins - 4, Roar Wins - 10, Drawn - 6
In Brisbane - 18 matches
Jets Wins - 11, Roar Wins - 4, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9584
Average Away A-League Crowd - 11362

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 46, Roar - 48
In Newcastle -
Jets – 21, Roar - 34

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 21, Roar - 15

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 89 (81 yellow, 8 red), Roar 55 (51 yellow, 4 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - WWLDW (10 point from last 15)
Roar - LLWLL (3 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Roy O'Donovan, Andrew Nabbout (7)
Roar – Massimo Maccarone (8)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (O'Donovan 12', D Petratos 44') - Brisbane Roar 1 (Boogaard 42' o.g.) at Suncorp Stadium, A-League, Round 3, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 3

Newcastle JetsBrisbane Roar
Jack DuncanMichael Theo
Daniel GeorgievskiJade North
Nigel BoogaardLuke DeVere
Nikolai Topor-StanleyAvraam Papadopolous
Ivan VujicaCorey Brown
Steven UgarkovicJoe Caletti
Ben KantarovskiMatt McKay
Ronald VargasBrett Holman
Dimitri PetratosFahid Ben Khalfallah
Andrew NabboutEric Bautheac
Roy O'DonovanMassimo Maccarone



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Hingert 8' o.g, Boogaard 62', Ugarkovic 71', Clut 86') – Roar 0 at McDonald Jones Stadium, Round 2, Season 2016/17, 16/10/2016.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Roar 5 (Reinaldo 10’, Richter 44’, Brosque 52’, McKay 83’, Murdocca 90+1’), Round 20, Season 2005/06 at Energy Australia Stadium, 26/01/2006.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (8)
Roar - Reinaldo (7)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Jack Duncan77006300000
3Jason Hoffman1210248972120
4Nigel Boogaard14140012600020
5Ben Kantarovski13130411143030
6Steven Ugarkovic15150313361210
7Dimitri Petratos15150413376510
8Ronald Vargas33031970100
9Roy O'Donovan76105717230
10Wayne Brown126655610020
11Patricio Rodriguez1010341000
12Mario Shabow7070900010
13Ivan Vujica14140112510250
15Andrew Nabbout15150512967530
16Nick Cowburn50501040000
17Daniel Georgievski88045521140
18John Koutroumbis95424602020
19Kosta Petratos4040270000
20Glen Moss88007200000
22Lachlan Jackson51401390000
23Devante Clut4040140000
24Joe Champness1510589103110
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley15150013500010



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Ernie Merrick - 1 win, John Aloisi - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 1 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 66% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (9 wins, 3 drawn and 5 losses = 53% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (1 wins, 4 drawn, 1 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane - 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = 100% win ratio)

Brisbane Roar Coach Record – John Aloisi 27% win ratio (3 wins, 3 drawn, 5 losses)



TALKING POINTS:

Memorable Match -





General

The Jets have opened the scoring in 4 of the last 5 matches against the Roar.
The Jets have surpassed the goals scored at home in their previous 3 season
Newcastle are 6 goals from scoring their 400th A-League goal.
Brisbane have lost only once in 7 games against the Jets on a Friday night.
In the history of this fixture, the Jets have trailed at half time on 4 times.



Key Stats from Previous Round

The Jets kept a second consecutive home clean sheet - the first since March 2014. They've only ever kept 3 consecutive home clean sheets twice in their history.
Newcastle have won 3 consecutive home matches for the first time since November 2011.
The Jets are also undefeated in the last 7 home F3 Derbies.
Patricio Rodriguez became the 4th Jets player to score on their A-League debut this year, joining Roy O'Donovan, Dimi Petratos and Joe Champness. All of these players scored their debut gaol against the Mariners.
The 43rd F3 Derby was the 3rd occasion in the derby when the Jets weren't shown a yellow card.



Players

Nikolai Topor-Stanley is in line to equal Ruben Zadkovich's 97 A-League appearances for the Jets.
Patricio Rodriguez became the Jets 159th capped player in the A-League.
He also became the 77th scorer for the club and the 11th to score on debut.
Steven Ugarkovic has laid on 2 assists in the last 3 games.



Newcastle Jets

The Jets have scored in 15 consecutive matches.
Newcastle have scored 34 goals this season, the 3rd best return of any season in their history. They are 4 goals from equalling their best ever haul of 38 in a season.
Newcastle have opened the scoring in 5 of their last 7 A-League matches.
The 30 points the Jets have earned after 17 rounds is 5 points ahead of the previous best haul at this point in time, which is 25 points set in both 2005/06 (Season 1) and 2007/08 (Season 3)
The Jets have now equalled or surpassed the points totals of season 06/07, 08/09, 14/15, 15/16 and 16/17 - 5 of their previous 12 seasons. Their record points tally is 36.



Brisbane Roar

Suspended duo Matt McKay and Avraam Papadoplous return to the Roar squad this week.

[MFKS]

Matt McKay needs hacking bad

Imagine the change in our season if Vargas was still playing and this grub hadn't taken him out

I backing Blue Aids be trying to catch us now

[hawk]

Chop Khalbackpacker and Maccarone and theyll go batsh1t crazy and implode.

[plague]

Brisbane own us.
New bloke is lazy.
Joey ruled out.

We’ll cop 6.
Doomed.

[Superdylan]

Brisbane are ****ed atm.

This is a game we have the potential to win by 3 or 4 nil. However ill back a 2-1 win. They do have a good record in newcastle and have won a few away games this season.

[Macca]

Will be looking to see us get back on the front foot and outplay Brisbane after a poor showing last night.
Interested to see how the team's play around the new winger develops with a few more sessions together.

[halo se7en]

I was OK to lose the Sydney game as long as we got the 6pts at home last night and Friday night. We need to keep that gap behind us. Doubt we’ll catch Sydney but now we need to start thinking about securing 2nd spot. City are away to CCM so I’m not expecting them to do us any favors. There’s no reason we shouldn’t go out from KO and try to put the game to bed by halftime. Brisbane have been all over the place this season and looked woeful in the last few matches I’ve watched.

[boz-monaut]

Brisbane own us.
New bloke is lazy.
Joey ruled out.

We’ll cop 6.
Doomed.
came here to say this

loose etc

[StannyCFCJET]

Brisbane own us.
New bloke is lazy.
Joey ruled out.

We’ll cop 6.
Doomed.

Were down on numbers. Time for plauge to kit up. Newy needs you!

[plague]

Were down on numbers. Time for plauge to kit up. Newy needs you!

been away in Tardland on bizness for a while (business being eating/drinking/gambling).


back today, and actually starting to look like The Fridge.
Merrick can chuck me on upfront for a bit ill get the job done.

[StannyCFCJET]

been away in Tardland on bizness for a while (business being eating/drinking/gambling).


back today, and actually starting to look like The Fridge.
Merrick can chuck me on upfront for a bit ill get the job done.

Jardel 2.0?

[Jetmaster]

Jardel 2.0?

I heard Plague had a run with the Hellas boyz...

1527

[hawk]

I heard Plague haf a run with the Hellas boyz...

1527

fridge cup

[plague]

I heard Plague haf a run with the Hellas boyz...

1527

Blimey, looks like Plague with Plague Jnr stuck under his jumper.

[StannyCFCJET]

We need to flog brisbane with the form their in

[MFKS]

We need to flog brisbane with the form their in

No we don't

We need to get the win

That is what matters most

3 points and move on 1 more game close to locking down top 2 permanently

[Jeterpool]

No we don't

We need to get the win

That is what matters most

3 points and move on 1 more game close to locking down top 2 permanently

Exactly. 3 points is all that matters.

36 points available, We need to get 31 points to lock in 2nd spot at this point in time.

[Jeterpool]

I'm hoping the short turn around will benefit the Jets. The weather has been cooler, they'll have been taking it lightly at training. If they aren't fit or knwo the game plan now, they shouldn't be around the team.

Roar, despite having an extra day off, spent one of them travelling down here and likely just had a quiet run yetsreday arvo. Plus they have a number of players returning.

Focus on our own game and confident in our quality but be respectful of their quality too.

[MFKS]

I'm hoping the short turn around will benefit the Jets. The weather has been cooler, they'll have been taking it lightly at training. If they aren't fit or knwo the game plan now, they shouldn't be around the team.

Roar, despite having an extra day off, spent one of them travelling down here and likely just had a quiet run yetsreday arvo. Plus they have a number of players returning.

Focus on our own game and confident in our quality but be respectful of their quality too.

I think where we can get them is they are an old side

All HAL sides struggle with 3-4 day turnaround
We just ain't used to it

Being as old as they are we should run over them second half

I not expecting a vintage performance from us
I think we will struggle to go well but I believe in Bert that we will get the 3 points tonight

[StannyCFCJET]

No we don't

We need to get the win

That is what matters most

3 points and move on 1 more game close to locking down top 2 permanently

Nah their shit, Were 2nd bout time we did what teams did to us past 10 years

[MFKS]

Nah their shit, Were 2nd bout time we did what teams did to us past 10 years

The team's at the top of the table usually struggled to thump us

That why we have had good records v Victree and Roar in the last 6-7 years

For whatever reason we aimed up against them

It the shit teams like Nix Heart Gypos Perth that we threw points away on

[Jeterpool]

I think where we can get them is they are an old side

All HAL sides struggle with 3-4 day turnaround
We just ain't used to it

Being as old as they are we should run over them second half

I not expecting a vintage performance from us
I think we will struggle to go well but I believe in Bert that we will get the 3 points tonight

I agree.

Rodriguez against whoever they put at Right back adn their two CB will be interesting.

[Jeterpool]

It's a bit left field, so hear me out, but I wonder it we will see Hoff deployed central tonight like we have at times over the last few weeks.

His athleticism could provide another body to help Rodriguez track back, free Dimi up on the right and free outwide if Rodriguez looks to drift in. His height from goal kicks would be handy. Additionally, a lot of our goals have come from low crosses once we've got in behind.

Not sure, just a thought.

[pv4]

His height from goal kicks would be handy.

I have found Hoff disturbingly uncompetitive when it comes to aerial challenges.

[StannyCFCJET]

I have found Hoff disturbingly uncompetitive when it comes to aerial challenges.

He's won heaps of headers the past few weeks though

[MFKS]

He's won heaps of headers the past few weeks though

They usually go straight over the crossbar though

From 6 yardsun marked you would hope he would put them in the net

Cost us 2 wins

[MFKS]

It's a bit left field, so hear me out, but I wonder it we will see Hoff deployed central tonight like we have at times over the last few weeks.

His athleticism could provide another body to help Rodriguez track back, free Dimi up on the right and free outwide if Rodriguez looks to drift in. His height from goal kicks would be handy. Additionally, a lot of our goals have come from low crosses once we've got in behind.

Not sure, just a thought.

I backing Pato is on the bench

It wouldn't surprise me if we see a Shabow or Clut or Kosta Petratos start with the intention of getting just 50-60 mins out of them so we can bring Pato on to carve them up

[StannyCFCJET]

They usually go straight over the crossbar though

From 6 yardsun marked you would hope he would put them in the net

Cost us 2 wins

You could argue Nabbouts many offsides is costing us wins with that logic

[Jetmaster]

Both teams are tired, weather is warm again so don't expect a flowing game.

Those last 20 mins should get us there.

[Mark325]

I backing Pato is on the bench

It wouldn't surprise me if we see a Shabow or Clut or Kosta Petratos start with the intention of getting just 50-60 mins out of them so we can bring Pato on to carve them up

Merrick said in the presser for last game that he’s definitely starting this game, then bring on one of those boys near the end of the game

[Jeterpool]

Merrick said in the presser for last game that he’s definitely starting this game, then bring on one of those boys near the end of the game

He also said he'd get fewer minutes than he did ;)

I saw James G report Merrick said yesterday he'd see how he pulled up after yesterday's ball session.



I think he will start

[halo se7en]

Yeah, 3pts is all that matters. I've gone into many games thinking we're going to have to fight it out, only to storm past the likes of Victory, WSW, Brissy last year, scoring 4 in the process. On the flipside, how many times do we play a struggling Perth, Wello, CCM, thinking they're ripe for a flogging, only to fight out a tough draw or loss.

The fact Brisbane are all over the place this season makes me extra cautious about tonight. They shouldn't have beaten Adelaide down there a few weeks ago but they did.

Every game is a new day, and I'm not going to take any win as granted, not considering the last 6 years.

[StannyCFCJET]

Lawrie Mckinna urging people to wear Blue to raise awareness for bullying after 14yrold girl took her own life recently due to bullying

[hawk]

NEWCASTLE Jets defender Daniel Georgievski has taunted struggling Brisbane Roar, questioning the club’s recruitment policy and tactics.

Georgievski lit the fuse on Thursday for Friday night’s clash between the teams at McDonald Jones Stadium.

We dont need to give them motivation. Just quietly kick em with out warning georgie

[StannyCFCJET]

Gotta take out FBK. He is their go to guy

[hawk]

Lawrie Mckinna urging people to wear Blue to raise awareness for bullying after 14yrold girl took her own life recently due to bullying

Still happening in all schools at varying levels. terrible


Gotta take out FBK. He is their go to guy

yep

[The Dunster]

The Roar need to come at us early because if they let us run at them like they have others recently it will be a massacre.

Looking forward to young girl not wearing blue tonight and being bullied by crowd for being different.

Better to honour the girls memory by acceptance of diversity rather than conformity.

[StannyCFCJET]

Clut starting

[MFKS]

Lawrie Mckinna urging people to wear Blue to raise awareness for bullying after 14yrold girl took her own life recently due to bullying

Can't I just go to the ****ing football and enjoy the football without some petty social brainwashing agendas being shoved at me ??

[StannyCFCJET]

Can't I just go to the ****ing football and enjoy the football without some petty social brainwashing agendas being shoved at me ??
Bullying is far from petty and social brainwashing

[plague]

Bullying is far from petty and social brainwashing

It also ain’t getting fixed by wearing blue to the football either boss.

[MFKS]

So no surprise

Pato not fit enough to start

[Hunter403]

Great touch Nabbout and a cool finish from Hoff. Good stuff!

[The Dunster]

Bayern Hoff

[MFKS]

Giant amount of space between the attackers on both sides tonight

I thinking our Midfield going to go better at exploiting it than them

Really up to our defence to do the business and we win this

[The Dunster]

Clut couldn't hit a barn door

[MFKS]

Hey Plague

Your mate Sugar is having a half decent game tonight

But before you crack a fat for him

Notice the ****ing space he in

Enough room for Griffs dick to fit

[Hunter403]

Hey Member,
Apart from Lord Griff is there any Jets player you approve of?

[The Dunster]

Roar should keep their GK and release everyone else.
Jets are destroying Roar everywhere except the scoreboard.
The awareness and communication between our players is awesome.

[MFKS]

Hey Member,
Apart from Lord Griff is there any Jets player you approve of?

Wasn't having a crack at anyone

Just pointing out how much space Sugar has tonight

Like FFS even Brown looks good in a midfield this clutter free

Tactically I have **** all idea what Aloisi is thinking with his side lay out

Bunch of old blokes and he wants to stretch the game against a team like Bert's who like to counter attack in space

Seems not well thought out plan

[Hunter403]

You can only play what's in front of you. Brown doing well. Only real disappointment was Clut

[The Dunster]

Rodriguez floating past players

[plague]

Hey Plague

Your mate Sugar is having a half decent game tonight

But before you crack a fat for him

Notice the ****ing space he in

Enough room for Griffs dick to fit

Not watching the game.

Just sitting in a dark room thinking about Griff like a true fan.

Not like you plastics turning up to games and stuff.

[Grimario]

Awful tackle that. How is pepper still on nevermind it not even being a foul?

[MFKS]

Hoffman just cost Nabbout a goal

Nabbout was knocked off stride as he wasn't certain Nabbout was going to steal the ball from him

[Hunter403]

We really need a second to finish these bastards off

[Hunter403]

If Roy were fit, how many goals would he have?

[The Dunster]

We need a goal to put this to bed

[MFKS]

If Roy were fit, how many goals would he have?

If Roy was fit would he get in the team??

That a more relevant question

[The Dunster]

I am worried about Rodriguez might be another Finkler type

[Hunter403]

Crowd needs to lift them We're tiring

[The Dunster]

Ernie needs to make a change. Jets look shit at the moment

[MFKS]

I am worried about Rodriguez might be another Finkler type

Lazy in defence??

That a certainty

But can't wait to see him go when he actually fit and can run for 90 mins

[The Dunster]

Both teams look exhausted

[The Dunster]

Boogs missed the sitter. Hope we dont pay for it

[hawk]

Brisbane getting away with hack after hack. ref is cvnt

[MFKS]

Got the job done

6 points out of 6

Get this win next Saturday and we can pretty much book Stade de Newy for the semis

[hawk]

u/6's someone on the back post mofos

[StannyCFCJET]

Thought Clut was solid

[MFKS]

Thought Clut was solid

By that I take it you mean anonymous??

I didn't even realise he was on until he got hooked and Pato come on

[hawk]

Not much came off for dimi.

The backs were awesome. mids worked really hard as well

[Mark325]

Had em throughout the first half and let them back into it big time in the 2nd

Rodriguez can be a gun but can also be a lazy ****er, interested to see how he turns out when he’s match fit and with the rest of the team at full strength

[halo se7en]

The defence were great tonight. Our attack had stuttered the last few weeks yet we’re still scoring. Can’t wait to see a fit Rodriguez after some more time learning how the others play.

[halo se7en]

Ernie just said Pato copped a two footed tackle right after he came on and struggled for the rest of the half.

[The Camel]

Ernie just said Pato copped a two footed tackle right after he came on and struggled for the rest of the half.

From Pepper, should've been a straight red. Ref was really poor.

[Jeterpool]

The ref and assistants were poor tonight. Deer in headlights.

[MFKS]

Had em throughout the first half and let them back into it big time in the 2nd

Rodriguez can be a gun but can also be a lazy ****er, interested to see how he turns out when he’s match fit and with the rest of the team at full strength

Let's just accept reality Pato is going to be one of those blokes who don't run back a hell of a lot in defence

The whole Aussie mentality of having good engines isn't what you are looking at here

You have got to accept that he is going to be like a lot of gifted players from his part of the world a walker for a lot of the game

But


Where he going to benefit us is what he can do with the ball.

We just need to get some conditioning into him so he can do it for more than 10 mins a game

[furns]

Sense from da membah?
Well I never

[leftrightout]

Looked good for 60, tired for the next 30 but held on.
The boys deserve a break. 8 days until the next match and being at home again should help.

Pato looked brilliant on the ball, his influence on the game got less when the guys around him knocked up. In the last few minutes Thurgate came on with some energy and he looked good again.
Some fitness for him and a fresh team around him and he is going to blitz this league!

[leftrightout]

I will add, every right back in the league is going to be uncomfortable playing him.
One on one he is simply a class above this league. His touch is brilliant and he can take the line or cut inside. The poor prick last night had absolutely no idea how to defend him. He just got lucky a few times and then started kicking the shit out of him!

[halo se7en]

I will add, every right back in the league is going to be uncomfortable playing him.
One on one he is simply a class above this league. His touch is brilliant and he can take the line or cut inside. The poor prick last night had absolutely no idea how to defend him. He just got lucky a few times and then started kicking the shit out of him!

Pepper, Avram et al,. all just resort to hacking and Pepper was lucky to still be on the pitch at full time.

[hawk]

Salty pepper is a cvnt.:rof:

[StannyCFCJET]

pepper is a cvnt.

Fixed

[Boss]

You guys are as bad as speedy talking bout the Maccas VAR...we get it. Peppers no good, don’t give him the time of day.

[380]

Nah, got all the time in the world to hate on the grub Pepper.

[MFKS]

Nah, got all the time in the world to hate on the grub Pepper.
Just be praying to God some **** doesn't get some bright idea to put the band back together etc

Get some more Hoffman v 2.0 signings etc

Pepper v 2.0
BK v 2.0
Raheem v 3.0 etc

Getting rid of them has been no great loss

[StannyCFCJET]

Just be praying to God some **** doesn't get some bright idea to put the band back together etc

Get some more Hoffman v 2.0 signings etc

Pepper v 2.0
BK v 2.0
Raheem v 3.0 etc

Getting rid of them has been no great loss

We have Hoffman 2.0 and hes great

[MFKS]

We have Hoffman 2.0 and hes great

Great??

I backing all our blokes a fit and we playing our best XI then Hoffman is benched and he may not even get on it when you consider Brown Kanta Nabbout JoeyC Jackson Johnny K be there also fighting for a spot

[StannyCFCJET]

Great??

I backing all our blokes a fit and we playing our best XI then Hoffman is benched and he may not even get on it when you consider Brown Kanta Nabbout JoeyC Jackson Johnny K be there also fighting for a spot

Hoff gets in over brown jackson and johhny k

[belchardo]

dimi and nabs are both trying to do too much i think. number of times they'd take the extra touch when the right play was the quick pass.

speed made a good point in commentary (worth noting, cause he doesn't do it very often), the first instinct pretty much across the team is to pass forward, even when there are only 2 players forward. it's fantastic to watch. even brown is into it.

moss had a great game.

we left a lot of goals out there, but so did the roar.

i'd love to see a directive from ffa for refs to actually protect players from dodgy tackles. i love a great bit of defensive work, but let's be honest, people want to see goals, so let's do something that encourages it! same for cynical fouls.

[belchardo]

and we seem to have a worrying trend of fading out of games from around 60 minutes. 8 days until the next match and then 5 to the next after that. really need some players coming back.

[belchardo]

anybody else notice the hoff give somebody in the crowd a good old "up yours" after he scored?

[Wilso8948]

anybody else notice the hoff give somebody in the crowd a good old "up yours" after he scored?
Yeh I noticed I couldn't tell if it was a "**** you" or "**** yeh" moment.. I looked and couldn't see any opposition supporters. To be fair the bloke cops so much unwarranted criticism.

[380]

Hoff is having a very reasonable season but that is one out of ten. I am pleased for the bloke but reality check time

[The Dunster]

Hoff is having a very reasonable season but that is one out of ten. I am pleased for the bloke but reality check time

Is there any background to this hate of all things Hoff ? Few people ever give the bloke credit for anything and pretty much want him to fail for some reason.

Is it sour grapes from local players that Hoff made it and none of them did ? Or is he a real nasty piece of work people simply don't like ?

I've never met him, but I've asked someone that played against him before he turned professional , why a few fans had issues with Hoff and he had no idea either.

[mic22]

Hoff is flourishing under Merrick (just like Kanta): looks like he finally has clear instructions in a well developed game plan (I've never seen this happen in the last 7 years).
He is a very good utility, probably not in the starting 11 once Roy and Ronny are back, but he's done so well in many different positions (including some top-shelf finishes), I would definitely keep him next season.
Very good value for $$$

[380]

Hey hey hey who is hating on him ?. Not me. Just because i don't rate him as high as others does not mean i hate on him. up until this season he has just been a average fullback no better no worse than most in this league making him average IMO ( no hate ).

I don't want the bloke to fail i just don't think he is anything special based on the last 9 or so years as a fullback which is what i based my previous statement on did i not ?.

I did say he was having a very reasonable season lets not forget and perhaps he may have just played himself under the noses of a few other clubs coaches having proved some versatility. Surely you couldn't say the same if he was still running around at fullback and never been given the opportunity further up the park like he has this season due to being short on able bodies.

I could probably name up to half a dozen players in our squad that i do not rate not hate but that is an opinion and being like assholes everybody has one. I have Kanta in the same boat. Has had very average seasons but has probably had his best to date and certainly done himself no harm in getting another A League gig if Ernie were to let him go. I am not so sure the same could be said based on the few seasons leading up to this one.

Hope i have cleared things up.

[The Dunster]

Hey hey hey who is hating on him ?. Not me. Just because i don't rate him as high as others does not mean i hate on him. up until this season he has just been a average fullback no better no worse than most in this league making him average IMO ( no hate ).

I don't want the bloke to fail i just don't think he is anything special based on the last 9 or so years as a fullback which is what i based my previous statement on did i not ?.

I did say he was having a very reasonable season lets not forget and perhaps he may have just played himself under the noses of a few other clubs coaches having proved some versatility. Surely you couldn't say the same if he was still running around at fullback and never been given the opportunity further up the park like he has this season due to being short on able bodies.

I could probably name up to half a dozen players in our squad that i do not rate not hate but that is an opinion and being like assholes everybody has one. I have Kanta in the same boat. Has had very average seasons but has probably had his best to date and certainly done himself no harm in getting another A League gig if Ernie were to let him go. I am not so sure the same could be said based on the few seasons leading up to this one.

Hope i have cleared things up.

I didn't mean you - I was referring to the crowd that would boo him even if he scored five goals in a game.

My opinion with Hoff is that he's benefiting from a coach that gives players the freedom to use their natural ability. Where as others in the past have been far too rigid in their approach and failed by trying to push square pegs into round holes.

Kanta had an injury free pre-season this year - that's why he's going well - he's always been a talent just not had the best of runs injury wise.

[StannyCFCJET]

I didn't mean you - I was referring to the crowd that would boo him even if he scored five goals in a game.

My opinion with Hoff is that he's benefiting from a coach that gives players the freedom to use their natural ability. Where as others in the past have been far too rigid in their approach and failed by trying to push square pegs into round holes.

Kanta had an injury free pre-season this year - that's why he's going well - he's always been a talent just not had the best of runs injury wise.

Some muppets near me joke all game about when can we sub Hoff off and why is Hoff picked were gonna lose now. Does my head in

[plague]

Back in the day (09-13???) there were a bunch of old blokes at the back of Bay 4 that started every match chanting “HOFF OFF” and didn’t stop til he was subbed and I’m pretty sure they kept doing it even after he left for City because they were usually hammered and had little idea what was going on down on the field.

[Macca]

What was his celebration about with the fingers on his face?

Great goal and if he can keep chipping in with one of them every few weeks he can stick around as long as he wants.
I do think he will be out of the starting team when our squad is back together but he's a valuable and versatile utility nowadays and will be worthy of a bench place for sure.

[The Dunster]

Back in the day (09-13???) there were a bunch of old blokes at the back of Bay 4 that started every match chanting “HOFF OFF” and didn’t stop til he was subbed and I’m pretty sure they kept doing it even after he left for City because they were usually hammered and had little idea what was going on down on the field.

Foz regulars Plague, and frequent contributors to discussions.

[plague]

Foz regulars as well Plague.

Yeah one of em was always on here can’t remember his name but in the early days he was also mad online.

Man I just had flashbacks to when I actually supported this team. I need a bath.

[Bon]

Yeah one of em was always on here can’t remember his name but in the early days he was also mad online.

Man I just had flashbacks to when I actually supported this team. I need a bath.

Please tell me it was Thrash..
What happened to him and his famous "johnson rod" comments? :gent:

[plague]

Please tell me it was Thrash..
What happened to him and his famous "johnson rod" comments? :gent:
Actually I think one was steve136

[The Dunster]

Actually I think one was steve136

Nope

[Grimario]

What was his celebration about with the fingers on his face?

Great goal and if he can keep chipping in with one of them every few weeks he can stick around as long as he wants.
I do think he will be out of the starting team when our squad is back together but he's a valuable and versatile utility nowadays and will be worthy of a bench place for sure.

If we ever start using the player loyalty allowance and get Kanta and eventually Hoff on our books for little to no salary cap hit, I would be happy with both of them around till they retire.

[Bon]

If we ever start using the player loyalty allowance and get Kanta and eventually Hoff on our books for little to no salary cap hit, I would be happy with both of them around till they retire.

This.

[Macca]

Agree, Kanta in current form is pretty serviceable DM, and assuming we have another CM able to take his place then he's also good cover for the CB position (where we are a little light at the moment imo)

[plague]

Geez Louise just saw that Pepper tackle.

Thought you blokes had your red and blue goggles on but how the **** did the ref miss that?

Useless.

[Grimario]

Geez Louise just saw that Pepper tackle.

Thought you blokes had your red and blue goggles on but how the **** did the ref miss that?

Useless.

He didn't miss it, just didn't think it was worth even calling a foul. The MRP also didn't think it was worth doing anything about so lack of decision justified.

[plague]

He didn't miss it, just didn't think it was worth even calling a foul. The MRP also didn't think it was worth doing anything about so lack of decision justified.

He doesn’t have to make contact for it to be judged a foul yeah?

Should have been pinged for leaving his feet at a minimum.

[lil_masi]

He doesn’t have to make contact for it to be judged a foul yeah?

Should have been pinged for leaving his feet at a minimum.

True, ppl have been send off for not even touching the player

[Macca]

He doesn’t have to make contact for it to be judged a foul yeah?

Should have been pinged for leaving his feet at a minimum.

Should have been a yellow and potentially red imo.
Its either "unsporting behaviour" for a reckless challenge which is a yellow, or red for "serious foul play" (excessive force - "the player is in danger of injuring his opponent")

I'm guessing MRP have deemed its only a yellow offence and so no suspension would have been handed out if its picked up, so they need take no action .. although I'm not sure quite how the MRP operates.