17/18 HAL Round 18 | Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets | Thu 25th Jan 2018 7.50pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2017/18 Round 17 Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 22 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 9, City Wins - 10, Drawn - 3


In Newcastle – 12 matches.
Jets Wins - 7, City Wins - 4, Drawn - 1
In Melbourne - 10 matches
Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 6, Drawn - 2

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9378
Average Away A-League Crowd - 7197

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 32, City - 43
In Melbourne -
Jets – 12, City - 24

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 11, City - 11

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 62 (61 yellow, 1 red), City 38 (36 yellow, 2 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - LDWWL (7 point from last 15)
City - LWWDW (10 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Andrew Nabbout (8)
City – Ross McCormack (14)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 1 (Nabbout 32') - Melbourne City 2 (McCormack 40' pen, Muscat 86') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 9, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 9

Newcastle JetsMelbourne City
Glen MossDean Bouzanis
John KoutroumbisManny Muscat
Nigel BoogaardIacopo La Rocca
Nikolai Topor-StanleyBart Schenkeveld
Ivan VujicaScott Jamieson
Steven UgarkovicMichael Jakobsen
Ben KantarovskiLuke Brattan
Dimitri PetratosStefan Mauk
Jason HoffmanNick Fitzgerald
Joe ChampnessMacin Budzinski
Andrew NabboutRoss McCormack



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015, Jets 0 - City 4 (Mooy 43', Fornaroli 56', Mooy 59', Fornaroli 62') at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 10, 13/12/15 and Jets 0 - City 4 (Cahill 12', Fitzgerald 65', Fornaroli 75' pen, Fornaroli 81') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 23 18/3/2017.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
City - Bruno Fornaroli (8)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Jack Duncan88007200000
3Jason Hoffman14122610493120
4Nigel Boogaard16160014400020
5Ben Kantarovski14131411393030
6Steven Ugarkovic17170315161210
7Dimitri Petratos17170415177520
8Ronald Vargas33031970100
9Roy O'Donovan76105717230
10Wayne Brown148667160030
11Patricio Rodriguez31211511000
12Mario Shabow7070900010
13Ivan Vujica16160114310250
14Riley McGree000000000
15Andrew Nabbout17170614748630
16Nick Cowburn50501040000
17Daniel Georgievski1010047321240
18John Koutroumbis105524632020
19Kosta Petratos4040270000
20Glen Moss99008100000
22Lachlan Jackson51401390000
23Devante Clut5141590000
24Joe Champness1610689353110
32Angus Thurgate2020200000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley17170015300010



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Warren Joyce - 1 win, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 1 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Melbourne City Coach Record – Warren Joyce 100% win ratio (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses)




TALKING POINTS:


General

This fixture has produced, on average, over 3 goals per game.
The Jets haven't scored the first goal away to City in the last 4 matches.
The Jets will play their first away match since they took on Sydney FC in round 14.
The score in 4 of the last 5 of the fixtures between these teams has been 2-1, each team winning twice.
This game has been settled by 1 goal on 8 occasions.
Newcastle have lost their last 4 matches at AAMI Park. Our last win was a 3-2 win over City under Scott Miller in October 2015.



Players

Milos Trifunovic and Andrew Nabbout, with 4 each, have scored the last 8 Jets goals against City.
Andrew Nabbout is now outright 5th on the Jets scoring charts, with 16 goals.
Riley McGree could be the Jets 161st player to appear in the A-League.
Daniel Georgievski is 1 yellow card from an automatic 1 week suspension.



Newcastle Jets

The Jets only other game on a Thursday nightt his year was a 4-1 win over Victory at home.
Newcastle have scored in 17 consecutive A-League games.
Newcastle's Thursday night record is 3 wins, 1 draw, 3 losses.

[StannyCFCJET]

Havent lost two in a row all season, Thursday is a must win for me

[Jeterpool]

Havent lost two in a row all season, Thursday is a must win for me

Big test to see how the team respond.

We've been flat, rode our luck against the Mariners and Roar before getting punished for it against City.

I expect there will be a change or 2, maybe 3.

[Jeterpool]

It's also been 25 away games since we kept a clean sheet. The last being against the Mariners in Gosford when we broke our streak down there 1-0.

[Macca]

Big test to see how the team respond.

We've been flat, rode our luck against the Mariners and Roar before getting punished for it against City.

I expect there will be a change or 2, maybe 3.

I expect Moss and Kanta to both come back into the starting lineup. Brown wasn't the problem against Wellington but Kanta did look good when he came on.
I'm not sure what will happen in the front third, perhaps just a better (or better adhered to) game plan will fix things. But with Champness back it puts pressure on those guys as someone is gonna have to be on the bench.
If McGree lights up training he could be a surprise packet somewhere - I admit I've never really seen the bloke so not sure if he's strictly a CM or could be an option at 10 or wing...

[redwah]

I expect Moss and Kanta to both come back into the starting lineup. Brown wasn't the problem against Wellington but Kanta did look good when he came on.
I'm not sure what will happen in the front third, perhaps just a better (or better adhered to) game plan will fix things. But with Champness back it puts pressure on those guys as someone is gonna have to be on the bench.
If McGree lights up training he could be a surprise packet somewhere - I admit I've never really seen the bloke so not sure if he's strictly a CM or could be an option at 10 or wing...

Defo moss and kanta back in...think the gaffer needs to remind hoff that he is a right sided player and has defensive duties.

Think dimi needs a spell...to many touches and getting caught with the ball.

Vujica not as effective going forward currently as earlier in the season.

[plague]

The slide into oblivion continues.

Boogaard to give away at least 14 free kicks in shooting range McCormack to score from all of them.

15-0
Kamau with a deflected sealer.

[Jeterpool]

The slide into oblivion continues.

Boogaard to give away at least 14 free kicks in shooting range McCormack to score from all of them.

15-0
Kamau with a deflected sealer.

You did get to see a Boogs red last week

[Jeterpool]

Defo moss and kanta back in...think the gaffer needs to remind hoff that he is a right sided player and has defensive duties.

Think dimi needs a spell...to many touches and getting caught with the ball.

Vujica not as effective going forward currently as earlier in the season.

Vujica is affected by Pato. Looked better once Champness got there.

I'd also rest Hoff. Move patito out there and bring Champness back in considering the inclusions macca mister. I agree with them and the reasons.

[Jetmaster]

I would also like to see Dimi have a break to recharge. Put Pato there a la Ronny and see how it goes.

[hawk]

I would also like to see Dimi have a break to recharge.

agree

[Wilso8948]

Bart is out for city. Big loss for them. Prob sign John Terry as an injury replacement for one game.
Can't see Dimi being rested. He'll stay at 10 with champs and Potato out wide. Nabs up front. Hoffo to bench. Kanta to start. Win and we look good for 2nd. Draw is almost as good. Lose and we start aiming for top 4.

[Hunter403]

Loss this one. we have been sliding backwards for a few games now. Unless Merrick gets Pato and Dimi to stop their team mate confusing wanderings we will again have little structure. Moss in, Kanta in Champness in. Duncan, Hoff and Brown to the bench. Sorry for Brown, he's been improving with game time but Kanta 2.0 is the better option (until hurt again)

[380]

We play our best football playing with width with crazy George and Vujica joining in on the party. So long as Ernie can get the troops to go back to this we can get a result i reckon.
I do like your idea Jetmaster of throwing Pato into a creative role in the middle leaving Champers to hug the sideline and if i recall correctly in the lead up to Pato's signing and arrival Ernie mentioned that although Pato was predominantly a wide player he was not averse to giving him a run centrally. City are a bloody hard team to predict what you are going to get from them. Some weeks they play great football but other weeks it is like sitting through root canal therapy minus the local it can be that painful.
A good test for the players and coach to make a statement that the Nix game was just a hiccup and not part of a trend. I still have not seen a better team than us this season at full throttle so sticking with a top 2 finish for mine.

[MFKS]

I would also like to see Dimi have a break to recharge. Put Pato there a la Ronny and see how it goes.

**** giving him a break to recharge

Drop him

Give him a rocket up the arse etc

[StannyCFCJET]

**** giving him a break to recharge

Drop him

Give him a rocket up the arse etc

Based on his performances from the Sydney game onwards I'd put him on the bench

[Jeterpool]

Nbn news last night indicated Duncan will start. I can only assume Moss is still injured.

[Jetmaster]

**** giving him a break to recharge

Drop him

Give him a rocket up the arse etc

I just said the same thing, just the more diplomatic way that Ernie would use.

Like those American cop films where the rogue gets told, "You're on vacation".

[Macca]

Wouldn't be opposed to Pato starting at 10 with Dimi to come off the bench when he tires out.
Ernie's gonna have to come up with a better solution though especially when Ronny comes back into the fray.

[Jeterpool]

Wouldn't be opposed to Pato starting at 10 with Dimi to come off the bench when he tires out.
Ernie's gonna have to come up with a better solution though especially when Ronny comes back into the fray.

ERnie mentioned on the news last night that Phoenix exposed a few issues that hadn't been done before but fortunately they're easy enough to fix. If it's just "all talk" then I like what is being said.

I'd be starting Champness and putting Hoff on the bench and play Champness - Dimi - Rodgod but it wouldn't surprise me to see the same as the other night or Champness - Dimi - Hoff

Thing is, of the wingers Hoff appears the hardest worker in defence. Can we compensate that loss for attacking flair?

FWIW Rodgod (credit to my brother for that name) was fouled 9 times in the previous match. Now, the data I managed to find on older games isn't 100% reliable but only Griff in a game v Perth season 3, Rd16 (10) and Coveny in CCM Semi final home leg season 1 (9) have received the same or more fouls in a match. My hunch - it's the most times a Jets player has been awarded a free-kick after being fouled in a single match.

[Macca]

ERnie mentioned on the news last night that Phoenix exposed a few issues that hadn't been done before but fortunately they're easy enough to fix. If it's just "all talk" then I like what is being said.

I'd be starting Champness and putting Hoff on the bench and play Champness - Dimi - Rodgod but it wouldn't surprise me to see the same as the other night or Champness - Dimi - Hoff

Thing is, of the wingers Hoff appears the hardest worker in defence. Can we compensate that loss for attacking flair?

FWIW Rodgod (credit to my brother for that name) was fouled 9 times in the match. Now, the data I managed to find on older games isn't 100% reliable but only Griff in a game v Perth season 3, Rd16 (10) and Coveny in CCM Semi final home leg season 1 (9) have received the same or more fouls in a match. My hunch - it's the most times a Jets player has been awarded a free-kick after being fouled in a single match.

I was guessing around 15 times to friends that weren't at the game :rof: I think there was another two or three that weren't called too.
It might be worth seeing if Pato and Danny boy work together a bit better than with Ivan (I suspect they might), and it would be good for Ivan to go back to familiar territory with Joey in front of him.
Just goes to show how nuanced and hard to achieve good teamwork can be - you can potentially swap out a player for a better one but come out worse off due to their different interactions. This is what potentially concerns me with all the new players (although good players) to come into the team.

[Jeterpool]

I was guessing around 15 times to friends that weren't at the game :rof: I think there was another two or three that weren't called too.
It might be worth seeing if Pato and Danny boy work together a bit better than with Ivan (I suspect they might), and it would be good for Ivan to go back to familiar territory with Joey in front of him.
Just goes to show how nuanced and hard to achieve good teamwork can be - you can potentially swap out a player for a better one but come out worse off due to their different interactions. This is what potentially concerns me with all the new players (although good players) to come into the team.

Absolutely. Didn't our first goal come from the interplay between Georgievski and Pato?

[belchardo]

Absolutely. Didn't our first goal come from the interplay between Georgievski and Pato?

Yep. Slick little roll back by pato.

[hawk]

Just goes to show how nuanced and hard to achieve good teamwork can be - you can potentially swap out a player for a better one but come out worse off due to their different interactions. This is what potentially concerns me with all the new players (although good players) to come into the team.

for sure.

Need to work how pato can best use his skills that equate to chances on goal.

Having a ref to to enforce constant hacking will also help but wont happen.

lose by 2

[The Dunster]

I'd put Pato on the bench and use him as an impact player. We might have bought him in for Vargas but they are completely different types of players.

[mic22]

Pato is a left winger, much better than Champness IMO.
He's just not used to the way the team moves around him, which is understandable since he's been here 2 weeks only.
I'd give him as much game time as possible, yes he's trying to be flashy all the time, but so is Champness...

[la bazzle]

Pato is a left winger, much better than Champness IMO.
He's just not used to the way the team moves around him, which is understandable since he's been here 2 weeks only.
I'd give him as much game time as possible, yes he's trying to be flashy all the time, but so is Champness...

Unlike the Champ he can mostly pull it off..... and wouldn't try a stupid little chip shot thing when 2-1 up against Sydney with 2 min to go.....

[Macca]

Pretty much my thoughts too. I've heard a few people complaining about Pato not passing it and turning it over trying stuff - but Champness was turning over a lot of ball and wasting opportunities in his recent games for us too. I think Pato and the team both still have some adjustment to do to get used to each other but the guy's good.

Another thought I had was that its possible that Merrick has actually been telling him to go out and be expressive and try stuff - we know Merrick cares almost as much about entertainment and putting a show on as he does winning, and when you've got a bloke like Pato who has skills that can wow the crowd, it wouldn't surprise me if he has been given a licence to do so.

[Jeterpool]

Kurt Ams is the referee.

He last refereed the F3 Derby 3 weeks ago and the match against Sydney earlier in the season (the match in the rain)

[380]

Not disrespecting Nabs but if Roy were on the park since Pato's arrival we would be talking about Pato's few assists and goal. A couple of times someone of Roy's nous to sniff an opportunity would have put a couple away. I reckon a few more weeks and Pato owns this league, He already got blokes defending against him looking pub team quality the way he turns them inside out.

[StannyCFCJET]

Not disrespecting Nabs but if Roy were on the park since Pato's arrival we would be talking about Pato's few assists and goal. A couple of times someone of Roy's nous to sniff an opportunity would have put a couple away. I reckon a few more weeks and Pato owns this league, He already got blokes defending against him looking pub team quality the way he turns them inside out.

Everyone wasnts to foul him out of games. That says everything to me

[The Dunster]

If the referees start looking after Pato like they did Del Piero and Broich he's going to be doing some serious damage to the opposition. But without the referees doing their job it's always going to be difficult for him - especially now players have pretty much given up trying to take the ball from him cleanly.

[halo se7en]

If the referees start looking after Pato like they did Del Piero and Broich he's going to be doing some serious damage to the opposition. But without the referees doing their job it's always going to be difficult for him - especially now players have pretty much given up trying to take the ball from him cleanly.

This. Goes back to my previous comments about Arzani and players like Golec hacking him down from the start of a match as if they’ve been instructed to. The refs can have an influence on what sort of league this becomes.

[MFKS]

This. Goes back to my previous comments about Arzani and players like Golec hacking him down from the start of a match as if they’ve been instructed to. The refs can have an influence on what sort of league this becomes.

So can our manager

I backing Bert being the experienced campaigner will know how to play the media mind games well enough soon to put the pressure on the refs to stop letting these grubs hack Pato

What will also help us is when Ronny and Roy are back

Opposition ain't just going to be able to hack Pato all day

They going to have to worry about a few more others to hack

[StannyCFCJET]

So can our manager

I backing Bert being the experienced campaigner will know how to play the media mind games well enough soon to put the pressure on the refs to stop letting these grubs hack Pato

What will also help us is when Ronny and Roy are back

Opposition ain't just going to be able to hack Pato all day

They going to have to worry about a few more others to hack

Agreed with three good players to take out thell risk a few red cards every game

[Jeterpool]

Line-up predictions for tonight?

I think we will go with one change, being Kanta for Brown.Possibly Champness for Pato but I don't think so. Therefore:

Duncan, Gorgeous George, Boogs, Topor, Vuj, Stevie-UG, Kanta, Potato, Dimi, Hoff, Nabbs

Bench will be: Moss, Jackson, Champness, McGree, Brown.

Kosta and Cowburn miss out.

[StannyCFCJET]

Line-up predictions for tonight?

I think we will go with one change, being Kanta for Brown.Possibly Champness for Pato but I don't think so. Therefore:

Duncan, Gorgeous George, Boogs, Topor, Vuj, Stevie-UG, Kanta, Potato, Dimi, Hoff, Nabbs

Bench will be: Moss, Jackson, Champness, McGree, Brown.

Kosta and Cowburn miss out.

Spot on IMO

[MFKS]

Line-up predictions for tonight?

I think we will go with one change, being Kanta for Brown.Possibly Champness for Pato but I don't think so. Therefore:

Duncan, Gorgeous George, Boogs, Topor, Vuj, Stevie-UG, Kanta, Potato, Dimi, Hoff, Nabbs

Bench will be: Moss, Jackson, Champness, McGree, Brown.

Kosta and Cowburn miss out.

Pato plays

FFS he is arguably our best player once him and Ronny are fit we can Duke it out to see who 1 & 2

But this start him from the bench shit stops now

He played 70 mins last weekend

Keep getting the mins in him and bring him up to speed fitness wise ASAP

If Joey C starts it for Hoffman and quite frankly Hoff deserves his starting spot on form despite being shit etc

[Macca]

I just started salivating heavily at the thought of Ronny and Pato on the field together tearing people new ones .. :popcorn:

[halo se7en]

Yep, Pato needs as much time as possible playing alongside Dimi and Nabbout to get our attack purring again.

[Jeterpool]

Pato plays

FFS he is arguably our best player once him and Ronny are fit we can Duke it out to see who 1 & 2

But this start him from the bench shit stops now

He played 70 mins last weekend

Keep getting the mins in him and bring him up to speed fitness wise ASAP

If Joey C starts it for Hoffman and quite frankly Hoff deserves his starting spot on form despite being shit etc

I've started him, as you can see. I said it was a possibility.

[Jeterpool]

I just started salivating heavily at the thought of Ronny and Pato on the field together tearing people new ones .. :popcorn:

Need to clear a squad spot because he's an injury replacement for Ronny. Interesting few days ahead for some fringe players like Alessi or Clut as others have mooted.

[MFKS]

Need to clear a squad spot because he's an injury replacement for Ronny. Interesting few days ahead for some fringe players like Alessi or Clut as others have mooted.

Almost getting to the stage where it easy just to pay them out and move on if they can't get a new club

[Jeterpool]

Almost getting to the stage where it easy just to pay them out and move on if they can't get a new club

Agree. Alessi can't be that much. It's whether we have the cap space.

[StannyCFCJET]

If anyone gets dropped on recent form its Dimi IMO but Bert wont do that

[380]

If anyone gets dropped on recent form its Dimi IMO but Bert wont do that

Agree and the irony to it all is it would be because he is trying too hard. Been playing the last few weeks like he has the hopes of an entire region riding on his back.

[StannyCFCJET]

Agree and the irony to it all is it would be because he is trying too hard. Been playing the last few weeks like he has the hopes of an entire region riding on his back.

Its not that its the a zillion touches before he passes or shoots. Gives players time to close him dowb

[StannyCFCJET]

Oh Dimi is out Wife having their first child

[halo se7en]

Dimi’s done a Wayne Brown. Apparently Thurgate rushed into squad... wonder how much time the kid had to get down there?

[380]

Cheers for the update .So do we go with Pato into Dimi role and Champers start ? That is what i would like to see.

[StannyCFCJET]

Cheers for the update .So do we go with Pato into Dimi role and Champers start ? That is what i would like to see.

Id say so unless Mcgree starts or Brown in the 10

[Jetmaster]

Wimmin.....ffs....:facepalm:

Oh well - I tipped him for a rest, you would hope there is an extra player down there.

[StannyCFCJET]

Wimmin.....ffs....:facepalm:

Oh well - I tipped him for a rest, you would hope there is an extra player down there.

Gus

[halo se7en]

Wimmin.....ffs....:facepalm:

Oh well - I tipped him for a rest, you would hope there is an extra player down there.

Thurgate “rushed down to Melbourne to join squad”... not sure what that means flying from Newy the afternoon before a public holiday lol

Ernie didn’t seem keen on McGree playing 90 so Pato central, Joey left I’d say.

[hawk]

Dimi’s done a Wayne Brown.

uh oh. So he'll be crap for the next 12 months? damn

[halo se7en]

Louis Litt starting in defence for City.

[monz6]

What a start!

[MFKS]

Get in Topor

[The Dunster]

Now that's a pass. Perfect finish from NTS

[MFKS]

Heart really are an abortion of a club arent they ??

How many years they been in the comp now all the Arab money all the Cahill Kewell Villa signings and the cunce can't attract more than a Blue Aids crowd

[MFKS]

That is the quintessential yellow card foul on Joey C

Why not given

Two of them tried to get him to found before 1 suceeded

[monz6]

Vujica has already made three ordinary mistakes in defence. Bit concerned about that side

[The Dunster]

Arzani has too much flair for him

[plague]

Vujica has already made three ordinary mistakes in defence. Bit concerned about that side

their game plan is going to be to isloate arzani v ivan all night. it 'should' take Ernie 2min to fix that up. at the moment hes keeping Joey up the park though so maybe they want ivan to turn and run in the space to make arzani track back?

[plague]

Ray Gatt just said on twitter that Sydney FC have named Pato Rodriguez on an extended bench for tomorrows game.

[Wilso8948]

their game plan is going to be to isloate arzani v ivan all night. it 'should' take Ernie 2min to fix that up. at the moment hes keeping Joey up the park though so maybe they want ivan to turn and run in the space to make arzani track back?
May even be worth swapping Hoffman to the left to assist too. Nts needs to get closer as does the defending mids. Don't let Vujica get isolated. Only way city will score with Mcormack out.

[MFKS]

Ray Gatt just said on twitter that Sydney FC have named Pato Rodriguez on an extended bench for tomorrows game.

FFA held Blue Aids again ??

"Rent a rival player for the day marquee"

[Jetmaster]

City look a little more fluent this stage.

[hawk]

We're getting out muscled again. harden the fk up

[Wilso8948]

I don't even know the bloke but my personality radar screams that Arzani is such a little khunt

[MFKS]

How good is Pato??

What a run

Would have been much better goal than Ninkovic one the other week

[The Dunster]

The Argentinian Zidane is killing them.

[plague]

oh man i dont think ive ever wanted a shot to go in as much as i wanted Patos to go in just then.

waleed aly just blamed Trump for the miss.

[monz6]

Jack Duncan what a save

[Wilso8948]

The ref had already blow his whistle before the header as well. But dw we will all forget about that..

[MFKS]

Clear as day dumb **** play by Heart bloke

Was going to win the header on King Vuj anyway

Well done dickhead

[The Dunster]

This referee will be sacked for actually being competent

[halo se7en]

Clear as day dumb **** play by Heart bloke

Was going to win the header on King Vuj anyway

Well done dickhead

Can’t expect much from him... he’s THE criminal according to Okon.

[Wilso8948]

City game plan - give to Arzani
Jets game plan - give to Pato




Nuff said.

[plague]

i did enjoy the commentator proclaiming "well you have to credit VAR for getting it right"..............instead of, yanno, the ref who got it 100% 27 replays earlier.

[Wilso8948]

Wow. That was ridiculously stupid.

[belchardo]

flipping heck. what was that georgevski?

[Wilso8948]

Yall lampoon Boogard every week. I'm a mass fan of george but that was the dumbest khunt move I've ever seen.

[Hunter403]

And the award for the dumbest tackle of 2018 goes to.......Crazy George!

That was insanely stupid!

[plague]

Yall lampoon Boogard every week. I'm a mass fan of george but that was the dumbest khunt move I've ever seen.

Totally agree, terrible attempt.
Blame where it’s due.

That brings the current score to Georgevski : 1
Boogaard : 12,847

[MFKS]

That is a ****ing red
I hate Boogaard as much as the next guy

But that is the worst decision

[Hunter403]

That is a ****ing red
I hate Boogaard as much as the next guy

But that is the worst decision

I thought VAR could intervene on those. Red in my view

[Wilso8948]

George/Vuj off. Move Hoff to fullback with whoever stays on. McGree to 10. Pato and champs wide. Let's see if Patato can last 90

[belchardo]

i did enjoy the commentator proclaiming "well you have to credit VAR for getting it right"..............instead of, yanno, the ref who got it 100% 27 replays earlier.

what was the VAR checking though? ref had already blown the whistle before the ball had gone over the line i thought. so what could he check? and if he decided it wasn't a free kick, do all the players go back to the same position they were in when the whistle was blown? including duncan who was probably mid-flight at that time?

[Jetmaster]

Not convinced about this display. Something doesn't seem right in terms of intensity.

[belchardo]

I thought VAR could intervene on those. Red in my view

nah man, never a red. i mean, boogs clearly threw himself at the guys boot, which was pretty much on the ground at the time of impact. should have been a yellow to boogs.

[plague]

what was the VAR checking though? ref had already blown the whistle before the ball had gone over the line i thought. so what could he check?

im sure the ball was over the line before the whistle went.
but it was a clear foul like any other part of the pitch. the fact we needed 4 or 5 replays was the real joke in this.


it should have been thins easy.

VAR dude: what was the whistle for"
ref: hands on shouldners

takes one look at the replay.
VAR dude: indeed.


i mean what the **** else did they think they would see?

[plague]

That is a ****ing red
I hate Boogaard as much as the next guy

But that is the worst decision

are we going back to the Mane one?

cause i didnt see 'much' different.

so if one is a red, the other is too yeah?

[hawk]

Georgi lol. Get stuck into em lad. You softies should be getting behind him.

[MFKS]

are we going back to the Mane one?

cause i didnt see 'much' different.

so if one is a red, the other is too yeah?

Mane
Nani done one in the UCL v Real Madrid and it swung that tie against ManUre

That time the big problem with refs in this country

That is as clear a dangerous violent act and the cunce don't have the balls to send him for it

[halo se7en]

I feel like City are there for the taking if we want it. Every time we go forward we look like something might come of it. We’re just not doing it enough.

[Hunter403]

I feel like City are there for the taking if we want it. Every time we go forward we look like something might come of it. We’re just not doing it enough.

Cause we keep turning it over to them and putting ourselves under unnecessary pressure

[Jetmaster]

Back to last season....slow out, turn over, and a fast counter catches us out.
We're in trouble here.

[halo se7en]

Just keep attacking Muscat’s side and it’ll beat fruit

[MFKS]

Back to last season....slow out, turn over, and a fast counter catches us out.
We're in trouble here.

We got the Kanta of the last 10 years out there

Not this season's Kanta

Our Midfield has been ****ing poor

[belchardo]

God damn we are making a lot of passes straight to feet...their feet that is.

[Hunter403]

And given the lack of possession we are noticeably tiring

[Hunter403]

Jesus, George, you got money on yourself getting a red????

[Wilso8948]

We got the Kanta of the last 10 years out there

Not this season's Kanta

Our Midfield has been ****ing poor

Mids as u said. Ugas passing well off.

[Hunter403]

Can't see uscwinning or even hanging on for a point at the moment

[The Dunster]

Vujica needs to be hooked. He's struggling big time out there

[joel31]

Bert Van Marwijk thinking of taking Arzani to the world cup

[MFKS]

Bert Van Marwijk thinking of taking Arzani to the world cup

He probably will be picking him

Fast direct and a handful

Got to be 1000x better option than Leckie

[Hunter403]

Bert Van Marwijk thinking of taking Arzani to the world cup

Yeah, as mascot. He'd get owned by far smarter defenders than we have in the A League

[plague]

Geez Jackson hasn’t exactly had the impact expected.

Wowsers.

[Jetmaster]

Hunger...well noted Ned.

[Hunter403]

Geez Jackson hasn’t exactly had the impact expected.

Wowsers.

Really? Its exactly what i expexted!!!


HOFF!!!!!!!!!!

[monz6]

Mgree!!

[Wilso8948]

All McGree that.

[Hunter403]

All McGree that.

Yeah, the kid looks very handy

[plague]

Riley McGriff

[MFKS]

Riley McGriff

What he has done well is actually make a few great forward runs

Shame his teammates didn't spot them or he may have a Hatty by now

[Wilso8948]

Brown on to hack khunts

[halo se7en]

I was wondering what you clowns were on about and then realized my foxtel box was about 4mins delayed.

[Hunter403]

Again we give cheap balls away from the back and we get punished.

[Wilso8948]

Duncan needs to command his box. Been looking vulnerable all night.

[MFKS]

There's Boogaard again marking no one

[joel31]

that was dreadful

[hawk]

cheap balls & retard keeping. a decent keeper owns those

[foti68]

duncan has been poor since his comeback from injury

[belchardo]

****ing terrible. we're playing like a team that's never even seen each other before.

[The Dunster]

We need Moss. Duncan has no command in the 6 yard box.

[Hunter403]

Our keeper, back 4 and DM have been guilty of shit passing all night.

We keep this up and there is no way that toilet seat will be coming north to become Lord Griff's halo.

It's all great to transition quickly and get forward, but by all that is holy, you can't keep inviting opponents to have the ball 30m out.

[MFKS]

Classic Jets moment except Sugar ****ed it at the death

[belchardo]

3 points for uga just for that.

[halo se7en]

3 for Uga, -10 For George.

[foti68]

for me Nabbout had the best game for us

[The Dunster]

Fair result. City are no threat to us on that form. We were average but still managed two goals missing key players.

[Wilso8948]

Fair result. City are no threat to us on that form. We were average but still managed two goals missing key players.

If that's Mcormacks last game that will help us too. Can't see them chasing us down without him and no Bruno till March.

[The Dunster]

Mcgree played well tonight. Another great signing by Griffo.

[plague]

Mcgree played well tonight. Another great signing by Griffo.

McGree and Pato seemed to combine ok esp when it seemed McGree was happy to chase down some of Patos defence assignments.

serious of we make the semis just chuck roy/nabbout/dimi/vargas/pato/joey/hoff/McGree/ugabooga/kanta out there with Moss and ride or die.

bags not being the bloke to tell Ivan hes dropped though, he doesnt 'look' like he handles bad news well.

[380]

So on that effort is Moss back in next week ?.

[plague]

Mcgree played well tonight. Another great signing by Griffo.

remember when Middleby signed Donny de Groot and Billy Celeski?

Griff out here signing all stars obvious on the cheap just so they can hang in Newy with the great man.

praise Griff.

[plague]

for me Nabbout had the best game for us

man oh man he works hard.

[plague]

So on that effort is Moss back in next week ?.

would put McGree in goals is Moss aint fit.

Duncan leaking confidence bigly.

[Wilso8948]

would put McGree in goals is Moss aint fit.

Duncan leaking confidence bigly.
To be fair his save in the first half was class. His owning of the 6 yard box was poor. He learnt from his mistake in the end and cleared a corner well. Before that he was a liability. Plenty of improvement for a young keeper.

[380]

Not Duncan bashing here but it can't be denied he has played a role in 3 of the last 5 against us.

[la bazzle]

Flap city... flap flap city bitch


Claim that shit

[leftrightout]

man oh man he works hard.

Yep, I watch a lot of A-League and I honestly don’t think there is a player in the whole Comp who works harder than this guy. He is an absolute machine! We have such strength in the top third with all player available but I could not leave Nabbout out.

[q-money]

why is pato here? he is unbelievable. he was wearing air max 95s ffs

[Jetmaster]

Other teams have worked out the best way to stop us is to bully, niggle and slow us down. Refs don't appear to have a problem with it. And to then catch out our slow defence with a quick counter when we turn it over (which is happening far too much lately).
If we can adjust this to get on the front foot quicker we will be ok.
Has to start with standing up to Victory who will get Valleri and Williams to open up the butcher shop again.

[rhysd]

Other teams have worked out the best way to stop us is to bully, niggle and slow us down. Refs don't appear to have a problem with it. And to then catch out our slow defence with a quick counter when we turn it over (which is happening far too much lately).
If we can adjust this to get on the front foot quicker we will be ok.
Has to start with standing up to Victory who will get Valleri and Williams to open up the butcher shop again.

Their problem will be, however, that Dimi will be back and I suspect Roy will return. With Riley showing what he can do it will be hard to butcher all 4. Not to mention the pace and guile of nabbout. Add to that Vargas and all of a sudden you have 6 blokes that you can't "man mark".

Oh what a time to be a Newy fan!

[Retro Jet]

Their problem will be, however, that Dimi will be back and I suspect Roy will return. With Riley showing what he can do it will be hard to butcher all 4. Not to mention the pace and guile of nabbout. Add to that Vargas and all of a sudden you have 6 blokes that you can't "man mark".

Oh what a time to be a Newy fan!

When all the chickens come home to roost on the 5-6 May?
I'll be happy as a pig in muck.
:brrr:

[hawk]

Other teams have worked out the best way to stop us is to bully, niggle and slow us down. Refs don't appear to have a problem with it. And to then catch out our slow defence with a quick counter when we turn it over (which is happening far too much lately).

Yep.

Unless the refs decide to be fair nothing Ernie can do cause the minute we give back they cant penalise our ass quick enough.

[Jetmaster]

Ernie could do with a few snide comments this week. We do seem too happy to take it sometimes.

If either the Pep tackle or Rossi grip had happened against the Smurfs, Arnie and Fux would be screaming for blood and a rule change.

[Mark325]

Unfortunately we’re getting figured out and the lack of help from the refs is becoming ridiculous.

With a fully healthy team I do struggle to see us being beat. Roy, Nabbout, Vargas and Dimi up front, Pato and Mcgree to come on and carve them up when they’re tired.

[plague]

When all the chickens come home to roost on the 5-6 May?


Nawwww sheeeeeeettt. I’m in Melbourne that weekend.

Ok I’m cheering for City and Victory to pass us, we finish 4th then knock off Sydney in the semi and I’ll get a home GF.

Caaaarrrrnnnn.

[380]

Just guessing here but unless Pato is carrying a niggle i can't ever see him riding the pine. He would be on pretty decent coin whilst he is here and i could not imagine that sort of spend just to sit him on the bench.

[Mark325]

Just guessing here but unless Pato is carrying a niggle i can't ever see him riding the pine. He would be on pretty decent coin whilst he is here and i could not imagine that sort of spend just to sit him on the bench.

I think of it as I would rather bring on Pato then bring on Nabbout

[plague]

Nabbout, Pato, Kanta, Ivan and Topor only guaranteed starters at the moment IMO.

Fill in the gaps.

[380]

Got no doubt he would be of great impact but like i reckon , they did not bring him halfway around the world take up a visa spot and on good coin just to ride the pine 60 min out of 90 min every weekend.
With a full and fit squad i can see Nabbout on the bench. Tis just one of those rare situations for our club where we will be spoilt for choice ie 2 players 1 spot. How many times do you look at other teams squads and say to yourself any other team that player is a starter and one of the first picked.
Nabbout i am tipping will be a victim of versatility and will be the one on the bench not too dissimilar to the role he found himself in at Victory.

[Jetmaster]

Really though, how likely will we be to have them all at once? Little injuries, suspensions etc to come.
At least we now have depth....keep these guys for next season and wow!

[The Dunster]

Jack Duncan has proven that he's a quality keeper - but in his last two starts he's been way off the standard he's offered us in the past - before the injury he was brilliant. He's either gun shy from his injury still or the pressure of actually having to compete for his position with Moss has him rattled.

[Wilso8948]

Watch ernies presser. He says how they're looking to keep Pato this year and move someone from the squad on. Also says that Potato will be starting week in week out.

[380]

Watch ernies presser. He says how they're looking to keep Pato this year and move someone from the squad on. Also says that Potato will be starting week in week out.

Me thinks Brown is at the top of that list to move on. I would also think ACL qualification would go a long way toward convincing the likes of Pato to hang around beyond this season.

[The Dunster]

Me thinks Brown is at the top of that list to move on. I would also think ACL qualification would go a long way toward convincing the likes of Pato to hang around beyond this season.

Do we have a visa spot available ? If not then Brown would have to be the one to go. If we do have a visa spot available then I'd say Clut or Alessi will get the chop before Brown.

[StannyCFCJET]

Alessi will go

[The Dunster]

We must be giving the salary cap limit a fair nudge at the moment. To sign Pato when we already have both overseas Marque spots filled some accounting magic is going to need to happen. I'm thinking either Dimi or DG has to be made Aus Marquee and what we save there plus the player we move on's part of the cap will then be allocated to Pato ? Hopefully that's enough to keep him here plus an opportunity to play in ACL which I think's a very real possibility.
Just need to keep the CSL and Oil funded clubs away from him.

Next season will be hard for us because a lot of our players are going to want more money / contract upgrades - and based on their performances so far it's going to be tough to deny them.

[380]

I didn't think the Aussie marquee position was still in effect just two marquees wage players ( outside cap ) a club regardless of there country of origin.

I was thinking if they are to try and keep both Pato and Vargas it would have to be a 2 year deal for one of them and backload the second season ie $ 650K the first year inside cap and
$1.35m the second year outside the cap as a marquee. Backloading can be tricky though as i am pretty sure thats what lead to the start of Oar looking for another home and departing Brisbane. The first season he played for a modest sum and was promised a handsome deal from the second year but from memory it was going to mess with there plans regarding Holman.

I am just guessing here and happy to be corrected if i have it incorrect eh.

[The Dunster]

I didn't think the Aussie marquee position was still in effect just two marquees wage players ( outside cap ) a club regardless of there country of origin.

I was thinking if they are to try and keep both Pato and Vargas it would have to be a 2 year deal for one of them and backload the second season ie $ 650K the first year inside cap and
$1.35m the second year outside the cap as a marquee. Backloading can be tricky though as i am pretty sure thats what lead to the start of Oar looking for another home and departing Brisbane. The first season he played for a modest sum and was promised a handsome deal from the second year but from memory it was going to mess with there plans regarding Holman.

I am just guessing here and happy to be corrected if i have it incorrect eh.

Yes. You are correct only two Marquee players and can be Australian or foreign. Guest player can be an option to but only for 14 games and at the discretion of FFA [which means major city clubs with predominately blue kits.

Back to the cap system though - The following would be good options for the jets as well:

Salary Cap Banking – A Club can access any under-spend from the previous two Seasons to be utilised in the current Season, up to a maximum of 105% of the Salary Cap for that Season - Which should be a fair bit of money in the Jets case; and

Relocation Expenses – Clubs can reimburse Players for bona fide relocation expenses (eg. airfares, temporary accommodation, storage) outside the Salary Cap up to prescribed amounts in order to assist a Player relocating to a new region for football employment.

[Jetmaster]

Well Arnie said after the game last night that he had room under the salary cap to make TWO new signings before ACL. How?

Perhaps, just perhaps, Griff and Lawrie are getting cap rort savvy.

[belchardo]

Well Arnie said after the game last night that he had room under the salary cap to make TWO new signings before ACL. How?

Perhaps, just perhaps, Griff and Lawrie are getting cap rort savvy.

this was covered in an article a few weeks back. basically, they are that confident of their fitness and conditioning that they are able to pay their first 11 more than other teams. so if they aren't paying much for the other 12, they probably would have some cap space left.

[MFKS]

this was covered in an article a few weeks back. basically, they are that confident of their fitness and conditioning that they are able to pay their first 11 more than other teams. so if they aren't paying much for the other 12, they probably would have some cap space left.

Don't forget Griff can sell them the Newy Chick bonus angle

That going to sway a few players alone
Made Topor come back