Football on TV & TV rights thread V2.0

[belchardo]

AFL: $1.25 billion
NRL: $1.03 billion (plus NZ and internet/phone rights) http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/nine-and-fox-sports-retain-nrl-broadcast-rights-20120821-24jdg.html
A-League: ?

next cab off the ranks is us. your time to shine Ben, make it a good'un.

while the money is good for NRL, they really don't seem to have gotten much out of their deal other than it. certainly not when you compare it to what the AFL got (i.e. all games live, a whole channel)

[Thomas477]

It needs to cover the cap for A-League, NYL and W-League at any cost.

Anything else is a bonus.

[furns]

needs to be $35mil per year for HAL, not including Socceroos.

[Grimario]

And what is it at the moment?

[Blackmac79]

$17mill/year including socceroos.

Have to double that and take away the highest rating part.

[Pico]

needs to be $35mil per year for HAL, not including Socceroos.

Will that cover the salary cap if the rumours of a 20% commission for World Sport Group is accurate.

Also makes the $40m deal a few years ago seem like a wasted opportunity

[Pico]

while the money is good for NRL, they really don't seem to have gotten much out of their deal other than it. certainly not when you compare it to what the AFL got (i.e. all games live, a whole channel)

Looks like they got their money but not much else.

No extra live games on FTA
Delayed broadcasts for 2/3 of FTA games
No Fox Rugby league channel like the AFL got
no simulcasts in HD on fox of FTA games
looks like their may be no Telstra internet rights, wonder if the optus now case has scared them off.

But I guess that's the compromises they had to accept to get the money they wanted.

[hawk]

Looks like they got their money but not much else.
No extra live games on FTA
No Fox Rugby league channel like the AFL got
no simulcasts in HD on fox of FTA games.

Thank god for that

[moses]

No extra live games on FTA
Delayed broadcasts for 2/3 of FTA games
No Fox Rugby league channel like the AFL got
no simulcasts in HD on fox of FTA games
looks like their may be no Telstra internet rights, wonder if the optus now case has scared them off.



teehee ,one live free to air per. :lol:

[Jeterpool]

I hope FTA game/s included for a league deal

[GazFish35]

Buckley is gone after this deal is signed!
Merry Griffmas!

[plague]

teehee ,one live free to air per. :lol:

in standard def, with ads and Phil Gould.

enjoy.

[Pico]

David Gallop could take the reins of FFA with a $40 million-a-year broadcast deal in place

Tom Smithies
The Daily Telegraph
August 22, 2012

http://content4.video.news.com.au/NDM_CP_-_Fox_Sports/118/746/FSD_210812_PHIL_ROTHFIELD_PHONER__581150.jpg

DAVID Gallop will take over soccer underpinned by a broadcast deal worth close to $40 million a year if Ben Buckley's valedictory negotiations are successful in the next two months.

Buckley will exit Football Federation Australia in two months once the broadcast deal is complete, after six years at the helm of the game, and it's understood the FFA board is comfortable that a deal of that amount will be signed off, for at least four years.

Gallop will then take over as FFA CEO later in the year, having acceded to Frank Lowy's entreaties six years after he was first approached to run soccer.

Buckley's departure had been presumed for months once the TV deal was complete, and yesterday Lowy was confident enough to state a broadcast package for the A-League and Socceroos would be concluded in "about two months".

The Daily Telegraph understands that Fox Sports and SBS remain the most likely broadcast partners, notwithstanding Channel Ten's defeat in the NRL broadcast talks.

Getting close to $40 million per year would allow FFA to cover the salary cap of $2.6 million and also more of the game's central expenditure, though the players' union has already signalled that it will seek a greater share of an increased pot.

It would also give Buckley a legacy as answer to his critics in the game who have accumulated through the World Cup bid, the collapse of two A-League teams and the saga of Western Sydney.

Bizarrely none of the trio, Buckley, Lowy or Gallop, was available for comment yesterday, the news announced simply via a press release on the same day the NRL announced its $1 billion TV deal.

Gallop is on his way back to London as acting chair of the Australian Sports Commission, for the Paralympics, having spent time with Lowy in England during the Olympics when the offer was made.

But he succeeds a man who had become a lightening rod for dissent within the game, a fact acknowleged by senior FFA sources in talking of the need for fresh blood to drive the game forward.



So we're going to get what we could of had 3 years ago & we're going to give 20% of it to WSG in the process, seems a little silly to me.

[Pico]

TV deal gives Buckley one last chance to sign off in style

http://images.smh.com.au/2012/08/21/3572378/art-353-ben-20buckley-300x0.jpg

Saving face ... Ben Buckley must negotiate the best possible broadcast deal for Football Federation Australia before he is superseded by David Gallop. Photo: Getty Images

Ben Buckley can help silence his critics if he gets football a game-saving new broadcast deal. How much is that? Let's say at least $40 million a year, and a free-to-air window. SBS are waiting in the wings, hoping to show a delayed broadcast of the next Socceroos game in Jordan on September 11 to mark their re-entry into the game. Fox Sports will again carry the burden.

If, from between the two networks, Buckley can extract double the value of the existing contract - which still has a year to run - he will be able to walk out of Whitlam Square and face his many detractors head-on.

Buckley cannot airbrush the many disappointments of his six years at the helm - the botched attempt at A-League expansion, the World Cup bid embarrassment, the clashes with billionaire club owners, the failure to expand the A-League's key metrics. He won't expect to. But a true assessment of his time in charge cannot be made until after the TV deal is completed. That could be next week, or next month, so we will not have to wait long to find out.

A new five-year deal (to 2018) worth a minimum of $200 million would not only leave the game in reasonable shape, but would leave Buckley with a fighting chance to find commensurate new employment. He will not need reminding he is playing the 90th minute of a game for very high stakes. Maybe the biggest game of his professional life.
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So what about the new man, David Gallop? He is not becoming the second highest-paid administrator in Australian sport like Buckley was (an estimated $1.4 million a year). The purse strings at Whitlam Square are a lot tighter these days, and while Gallop will get a pay rise from his NRL contract of $750,000, he will still be taking a pay cut in comparison to Buckley over the term of his new deal, which runs until 2018.

There is some irony in the fact the man Frank Lowy wanted before he got Buckley will now replace him, six years on. The dynamic has changed, circumstances have changed, but one thing has not. Like Buckley, Gallop is not a football man. That is the major reservation about his appointment. Lowy has now employed three chief executives (including John O'Neill) since taking over in 2004 - don't think this is a board decision - and still he refuses to appoint from within. There are worthy candidates from inside the game, but Lowy is not looking. That is disappointing.

Gallop has, by most measures, been a success story at the NRL. But as big as the NRL is in the local context, it is not football. Gallop, in essence, ran a 16-team domestic competition. Football Federation Australia has responsibility for seven national teams, the A-League, and the W-League. It deals with the world's biggest sporting organisation, FIFA, and has to cross religious, cultural and linguistic divides. The parameters of Gallop's new job are infinitely bigger than his old one, and he is going to have to make a good fist of it with a fraction of the resources. It is a tough gig.

Supposedly, one of the reasons Gallop knocked Lowy back last time was the travel involved. He is going to have to get used to getting on planes. Supposedly, another reason he declined the offer was because he did not know whether, under Lowy, he could be his own man. On that score, nothing has changed.

This time around, confidants such as Harold Mitchell, John Hartigan, Ian Frykberg and David Gyngell were all telling Lowy he should get Gallop. A case of the right man in the right place at the right time. Let's hope so.

www.smh.com.au/sport/a-league/tv-deal-gives-buckley-one-last-chance-to-sign-off-in-style-20120821-24kme.html#ixzz24Dcibgir


So FFA want $60m a year for their TV rights wonder if that includes internet rights as well. Seems that sports biz insider piece by Mersiades was spot on as far as targets go.

Which would mean, if her figures are correct, the HAL is now a $35m beast on its own, not too shabby.

[furns]

Kickoff and Shootout shows were good.

Bridgey reading 50 shades of Grey while Dom was juggling the ball :lulz:

[belchardo]

Football Federation Australia (FFA) has announced a new rights deal that will see one live A-League game broadcast on free-to-air television every Friday night.

SBS secured the free-to-air rights for the A-League in a four year deal, commencing from the 2013-14 season.

The $160 million deal - made up of $140 million in cash and $20 million in advertising - marks the first time Australia's premier domestic football competition will be broadcast on free-to-air TV since the A-League's inception.

SBS will also show all A-League finals on a one-hour delay during that time, and will broadcast the rest of the Socceroos' 2014 World Cup qualifiers - also on delay - effective immediately.

"The former sleeping giant of Australian sport is awake," new FFA CEO David Gallop told a media conference on Monday.

"He's out of bed, he's in the street and now has some cash in his pockets."

Fox Sports will continue to broadcast all A-League games live over the duration of the deal.

FFA chairman Frank Lowy has hailed the deal, calling it one of the most valuable agreements in Australian football's history.

"Today, the new broadcast arrangements will give FFA an unprecedented opportunity to implement its strategic plans for Australian football," he said in a statement.

"There’s never been any doubt that the game has a bright future in this nation, but today the football family can take comfort from the huge vote of confidence from our broadcast partners.

"Fox Sports, Foxtel and SBS are broadcasters who know football and care about the game. They will all be important partners in the exciting growth in the years ahead."

Despite the increase in money, Lowy says the A-League's salary cap will not be raised.
'Exciting news'Fox Sports chief executive Patrick Delany said the pay TV broadcaster was happy to simulcast the Friday night game with SBS as it would help grow the game.

"Our vision, together with Foxtel and FFA, is for football to become part of Australia’s summer fabric, whether it’s going to watch an A-League game or kicking the ball around in a park or on the beach," he said.

SBS managing director Michael Ebeid said it was fitting that the A-League and the Socceroos will have a free-to-air presence on Australian televisions.

"This agreement is exciting news for football fans across the country and will give all Australians access to the A-League and the Socceroos," Ebeid said in a statement.

"We are proud to be part of this new partnership which will help take the domestic game in Australia to the next level."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-19/ffa-announces-new-a-league-broadcast-deal/4379596

the giant metaphor looks like it's here to stay. :)

[belchardo]

Football Federation Australia (FFA) has unveiled a new $160 million four-year broadcast deal for the code, double the previous agreement.

On a day new FFA chief executive David Gallop declared was "very exciting" for the sport, he announced the new television rights deal would be shared between Foxtel, Fox Sports and SBS, with some A-League matches to be shown on free-to-air television for the first time on SBS.

"The former sleeping giant of Australian sport is awake. He's out of bed, he's in the street and now has some cash in his pockets," Gallop said at a media conference.

Beginning at the start of the 2013/2014 A-League season, SBS will show one live match every Friday in the deal that ends on July 1, 2017.

The network will also broadcast all finals matches, including the grand final, on a one-hour delay and a weekly highlights show.

FFA chairman Frank Lowy hailed the new deal.

"The outlook for Australian football is increasingly positive," he said.

Gallop said the $160 million consisted of $148 million cash and $12 million in advertising and marketing.

The A-League salary cap will not be raised despite the increase in money coming into the game, Lowy said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/ffa-announces-160-million-tv-deal-20121119-29lb9.html#ixzz2Cd5Ndrxq

would prefer $148m in cash to $140m.

[Thomas477]

Good to see the cap will mostly be covered.

Am a bit worried to see some players already trying to get their hands into the cookie jar. I understand its part and parcel, but we need clubs substainable. After we insure that clubs start making profits, rather than losing $$$ each year, then the players can get a bit more. Without the clubs, the players wouldn't be playing sports for a living, just like how without the fans, the clubs are nothing.

Plus at $2,500,000 over 23 or so players, that's an average of $100,000 when they maybe work 4 hours a day during the week. Not such a bad deal.

[Pico]

Good to see the cap will mostly be covered.

Am a bit worried to see some players already trying to get their hands into the cookie jar. I understand its part and parcel, but we need clubs substainable. After we insure that clubs start making profits, rather than losing $$$ each year, then the players can get a bit more. Without the clubs, the players wouldn't be playing sports for a living, just like how without the fans, the clubs are nothing.

Plus at $2,500,000 over 23 or so players, that's an average of $100,000 when they maybe work 4 hours a day during the week. Not such a bad deal.

For 6 months of the year.

[demon]

I was quite surprised at the level of increase, that said looking at the quantity of hours braodcasting devoted to football on Fox it is clear they see the code as a key to their summer programming. And it isn't just the money, the additional programs are giving the A-League credibility also.

I do like that SBS will involved, that said lets hope they don't waste those Friday nights be scheduling Wellington home games for those dates. I'm fortunate enough to have Fox I couldn't care, and Im sure Fox will get the pick of the major games so we won't be seeing Victory v Sydney on SBS but the extra channel will increase the viewer numbers I'm sure.

The $12 million in free advertising, fantastic....... just don't waste it. People don't join memberships because they saw an ad on Fox at 11pm on a Tuesday night.... spend the money and challenge the other codes for juniors. Get our big names on the TV in Jan/Feb encouraging local club registration where it will have an effect. We have all seen the league ads with a player/s asking the 99% of the viewers who couldn't care about Souths to join soon...

I am a bit torn about the salary cap.... do the top players need increases. For most of us the answer is probably not, the younger yet to establish themselves in the squads????? I'm not sure what the current min contract is but I doubt it would be easy to live on in Melb/Sydney if you didn't have family there.

And the opportunities to earn additional income are very limited becasue of the salary cap conditions so they aren't just working 4 hours a day.... 6 months of the year.... that is their income in full basically and the younger, fringe players even more so. A senior player picking up a few hundred for a quick after dinner Q&A might not seem a world of difference to him.... to an 18yo players with 3 games under his belt on min contract might see that few hundred very differently.

If your average is 100K then for every player earning 150K someone is only on 50K. So if a senior Jet (say a Griffiths and Im in no way sugesting this is correct) was on 250K.... then a Virgili, Goodwin and Neville would have to be on 50K or less. And don't forget, not all these young guys get a second contract. So what opportunities have they had to for go to earn that 50K (maybe even less).

On the flip side we have multiple levels of players outside the cap so I can see Lowey's point that it should be sufficient. And we can all see places money is needed within FFA as long as it is not in increased Socceroos payments.... increase the friendlies, get additional training camps going for the younger players but if the A-League doesnt get a pay rise then not a cent should go up in rep payments either.

[The Dunster]

http://www.whoaorno.com/images/346.jpg

It's difficult to imagine the lower paid players getting a better deal. Trickle down effects are a myth at best.

[snake]

^exactly

even then, i think you'll find the minimum wage in the cap is pretty high, >50k. that's enough for the kids to live off.

[Disinterested Bystander]

^exactly

even then, i think you'll find the minimum wage in the cap is pretty high, >50k. that's enough for the kids to live off.

It's not quite $50k ($39k for <20yo and $48k for >20yo this season, excluding match payments) but it's still bloody good money for any of the million teenagers we've signed up. Especially when it's essentially part time work. Compare it to some 20yo working full time in an accounting firm and doing uni part time, getting paid $35k a year and any complaints of players being underpaid are ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

[MFKS]

Most important thing I would like to see with the salary cap is not a raising of the level but a tweaking of the caps parameters to encourage junior development in this country.
We need to purge the HAL of the hacks out there like Pantaledis, Nicky Ward, Wheelhouse, Hutcho, Elrich etc. The type of blokes who get paid 80-150k a year and contribute very little to the league.

I would like it if we dropped the minimum wage from whatever it is to about 35k and also allowed the minimum spend to drop a little also to allow a club the option to play kids ala Gold Coast United last season rather than cobble together a squad of shite and employ the aforementioned nobodies on big dollars.

We need to improve our yoof development and a little bit of regulation to force clubs hands this way may be what is needed.

Ideally you should be getting the Salary Cap structured so we have 6-8 players earning great money ie Broich Archie Joel Griff Emmo Flores etc standard players to complement your ADP's Eskytime and Ono's and then start to fill the squads with young blokes like Goody Rogic Rojas etc on some reasonable money but not too much that they want to stay forever in Australia and then fill it with young kids to make up the rest of the squad getting paid 35k-40k eash to live the dream of making it as a pro player.

At present it is obscene how much some of these journeyman players pilfer from the clubs for their employment at a HAL club

[Pico]

What I still don't understand is how FFA agreed to a minimum wage & a salary floor that dont work together.

If your going to have a salary floor & min wage and a min squad size, why is the salary floor, the minimum salary spend a club is allowed, greater then the min squad x min wage. Surely that is why some of these middle of the road players are earning overs, the clubs are forced to pay someone the extras they aren't worth just to meet the salary floor requirements, seems crazy to me.

[hawk]

free game on sbs each week and there's no fury or gold coast to create a farcical game. here's hoping.

[snake]

It's not quite $50k ($39k for <20yo and $48k for >20yo this season, excluding match payments) but it's still bloody good money for any of the million teenagers we've signed up. Especially when it's essentially part time work. Compare it to some 20yo working full time in an accounting firm and doing uni part time, getting paid $35k a year and any complaints of players being underpaid are ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

cheers. could have sworn kanta was on 50k when he signed, and that was the minimum wage?

[parksey]

this is the main issue

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Craig_Foster

[seldom]

lol

[leftrightout]

Ideally you should be getting the Salary Cap structured so we have 6-8 players earning great money ie Broich Archie Joel Griff Emmo Flores etc standard players to complement your ADP's Eskytime and Ono's and then start to fill the squads with young blokes like Goody Rogic Rojas etc on some reasonable money but not too much that they want to stay forever in Australia


I think the hardest thing with this is that there is not enough of these great young kids.
We are lucky to have one in our squad!

Yes there are alot of young players, but not enough of this quality!

[MFKS]

I think the hardest thing with this is that there is not enough of these great young kids.
We are lucky to have one in our squad!

Yes there are alot of young players, but not enough of this quality!

Part of a bigger problem with Yoof development across the board. Have a look at the 2 biggest clubs in the land Victory and Smurfs and neither can really say they have developed a player from Yoof to being a star in the HAL. These 2 clubs in particular have shown little interest in developing yoof at all. We were doing so under Egg first time before losing the plot with it under Culina Gypos have donme a good job in that front with Amini Rogic Ryan etc and the Roar have been a stand out on that front Tommy Oar, Zullo Sarota Kruse etc have pushed on from kids to Socceroos.

To say the kids ain't out there is plain well wrong. They are they just don't really get given a go. Take our Socceroos for example. 2 weeks ago and we had a geriatric squad limping to Brazil with the dullest of futures. We play Sth Korea and all of a sudden Jimmy Balbalj Behich Rogic Ruka and Tommy Oar etc show us the future ain't that dull. They just need a chance.

Change the structure to the HAL sides to encourage Yoof development and watch the kids start to come through. May be slow at first but as the clubs refine their processes and improve their staffs talents they quality of these kids will skyrocket. Throw in the occasional hefty transfer fee to an overseas club to encourage clubs down this road and we are well on our way to not only improving the quality of play across the board but also providing us with better quality players for our NT.

It is a disgrace that kids in this country wait to 20-21 to break into a HAL side because the development arms of clubs are so poor. Elsewhere in the world they are breaking in at 17-18 years old.

That is what SHOULD be the minimum standard from us also

[militiamon]

tbh footballers aren't paid that well nor are their conditions that great. Average $100,000 for 10 years maybe, then what? If you are unqualified in any other field then the best you can hope for is a full-time job in football. The percentage of players who actually manage to get these jobs is very low, it wouldn't surprise me if it was 1 - 5% of the players who are professional at 20.

I can think of a few problems with the conditions as well. It's physically demanding, and if you pick up a serious injury early you could be ****ed, not just in football but for the rest of your life. Plus think about all the time you have to dedicate to it outside of the 4 days a week you're playing/training.


Not saying that they should be paid more though, just making the point that as far as careers go it's not a very successful one for 99% of players.

[plague]

I'm a bit over the whole 'only got a 10 year career' argument though. We are lucky in this country that opportunities exist to go back to school, get mature age apprenticeships etc so people can change career through being forced to or via their own decision.
Plenty of tradies etc from the BHP days and manufacturing industries had their careers ended so they got off their asses and changed tact.
Sports people think that they are entitled to some sort of special preference.
Of they go into a career in sports not knowing the limited chance of it being successful then that's their problem.

[russjaybee]

Why can't a young player in this country also be going to uni? (like many do, kanta, dapuzz, tim brown in nz).

As others have said it's not exactly a full time job, there's ample time to study. Not many other people can say they're on 60k+ a year and doing a uni degree...

[NewcastleForLife]

^^ Especially when the uni year runs from March to November...

[pv4]

pretty sure all the jerks players get mentored through doing extra-curricular activites. think i remember reading that they were enrolling the young ones into courses etc. and i was at one of their trainings once & afterwards biraz was sat down by some lady & she was quizzing him on what schooling etc he had done already, and was chatting away about what he likes outside of football and if he can see a career in that etc.

[militiamon]

Keep in mind those systems are only in place because of the problems in the past. Interestingly enough, Jets players make the most use out of the PFA education fund out of all the clubs in the A-League. Good job on the club for organising that (though it is also probably indicative of the amount of young players we have at the club as well).

Anyway, my point remains that being a footballer is probably the shittest option for a career apart from a very, very small minority. If I were an 18 year old footballer who had the option of studying something that would lead to a well-paying professional career or a footballer, and my only concern was money, it would be an easy choice.

And I agree plague, they do play football because that's what they want to do, but it's still no excuse for giving them a shit deal because of it. They are still the real workers of this game, they deserve to enjoy the benefits. That's why I can sympathise with the arguments made by the PFA about an increase in income should result in an increase to players wages, but obviously it's not as simple as that given the current financial situation of the league.

[Pico]

Keep in mind those systems are only in place because of the problems in the past. Interestingly enough, Jets players make the most use out of the PFA education fund out of all the clubs in the A-League. Good job on the club for organising that (though it is also probably indicative of the amount of young players we have at the club as well).

Anyway, my point remains that being a footballer is probably the shittest option for a career apart from a very, very small minority. If I were an 18 year old footballer who had the option of studying something that would lead to a well-paying professional career or a footballer, and my only concern was money, it would be an easy choice.

And I agree plague, they do play football because that's what they want to do, but it's still no excuse for giving them a shit deal because of it. They are still the real workers of this game, they deserve to enjoy the benefits. That's why I can sympathise with the arguments made by the PFA about an increase in income should result in an increase to players wages, but obviously it's not as simple as that given the current financial situation of the league.

The problem I see is what about all those salary increase that have happened over the past 7 years, when the owners were losing money frequently and the TV deal was static.

I don't think the PFA will go for a large slary increase any way, just look at the press releases they have been releasing....


PFA Wins CBA Insurance Ruling

The PFA has worked tirelessly to ensure that players receive all payments including their annual salary, match payments and superannuation even when injured.

Insurance for all A-League players has been a key requirement of the CBA and the PFA has previously expressed its concern should FFA ever fail to implement its fundamental obligation to insure all A-League players under the CBA.




Stability the Players' Priority

Professional Footballers Australia (PFA), the exclusive representative body of A-League players, has restated its backing for the collectively bargained A-League agreement, describing the arrangement as pivotal to the success of the A-League and football in general in this country.

CEO Nick Holland noted the surge in TV audiences and attendances at Hyundai A-League games this season and commented that “the marquee signings, along with all the A-League players, have undoubtedly increased the appetite for football in Australia. As responsible partners in the game, we need to ensure we build on the great work that is being done by all parties in growing the game. The game will continue to grow only if we provide a quality competition with a great atmosphere that engages the fans. ” Holland said.

“The great start to the A-League season, combined with the restructuring of the competition to include the Western Sydney Wanderers, further reinforces the PFA’s long standing policy that quality, atmosphere, local clubs, engaging the community and increasing the visibility of the league are the key strategic pillars upon which the league and the game in general will build its success.”

Holland went on to say “At this critical time it is paramount that the game can show a genuine and stable career path to continue to attract the best possible talent. This must manifest itself as an investment into areas such as player education and development and just as importantly, basic protections such as contract security and insurance in the event of injury. Taking care of these issues is vital not only for the players but will undoubtedly accelerate the success of football in this country.”



What the players really seem to be lacking are the basic principles of having their contracts honoured , owners stop paying super at their pleasure, don't insure players properly, fold clubs leaving players out of pocket & that includes what the FFA does as an owner....

[Bremsstrahlung]

Keep it the same for a few years. I'd rather see FFA put extra funds in the bank for a couple of years,improve things where necessary, but imo passing on >50% of the additional revenue would be careless. What happens if another club gets into financial difficulty (hey Tinks, how are your companies doing?) there will be funds available to keep clubs operating for enough time to find new owners.

[militiamon]

The problem I see is what about all those salary increase that have happened over the past 7 years, when the owners were losing money frequently and the TV deal was static.

I don't think the PFA will go for a large slary increase any way, just look at the press releases they have been releasing....




What the players really seem to be lacking are the basic principles of having their contracts honoured , owners stop paying super at their pleasure, don't insure players properly, fold clubs leaving players out of pocket & that includes what the FFA does as an owner....

Great point and I agree with your comments.

[MFKS]

They are still the real workers of this game, they deserve to enjoy the benefits. That's why I can sympathise with the arguments made by the PFA about an increase in income should result in an increase to players wages, but obviously it's not as simple as that given the current financial situation of the league.

In principle I agree with your thoughts that they the talent should get the rewards. My complaint at this point in time as the they have been "OVERPAID" for the last 8 years. FFS our salary cap compared to TV income/Other forms of revenue is way above the percentages enjoyed in the NRL and AFL. Paying a salary cap of $2.5million per club for a TV revenue of $17million a year across the board is ****ed

The deal the PFA got them when the HAL was set up has been bordering on criminal extortion. The money hasn't really been there to pay them what they were entitled to under their agreement and as a result the game has suffered as a consequence. For the last 8 years the club owners, fans and the code have been paying the price and taking it up the arse from the PFA.

I will be pretty pissed if the club owners/FFA allow the PFA any significant increase at all. The players should wear it this time round to get a bit of stability and money into the clubs and then push on for the next deal in 4 years time. I think if the PFA play their cards right and take one up the arse now they will benefit big time in 4 years time for doing so.

Unfortunately Trade Unions don't see it that way

[The Dunster]

I don't think players going to University while trying to be professional footballers is a good thing.

To be the best at anything you need to be 100% dedicated to it. That's just not possible for a footballer when trying to balance University studies as well.

By going to University a player is signalling to me that they are not 100% dedicated to their sport.

The time for University is towards the end of a players career not the beginning.

I'd probably prefer not to waste the salary cap on such players .

[GazFish35]

Puzz struggled, left the game.
Tim brown too.

One or the other.... Not both at the same time.

[namwob99]

Kanta at uni. Maybe needs to give one up.

[The Dunster]

I cannot understand why anyone would bother doing a three or four year degree when you can now purchase a masters degree - which most if not all Human Resources people think is a step above anyway. Because, at the end of the day it's the Human Resouces people that hand out the jobs.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Virgili was doing Radiography at uni. Pretty sure I've seen an article in the Herald saying he has deferred Uni. Pretty sure Pepper is at uni. And a couple of Youth players are at Uni.

[parksey]

uni is a piece of piss anyway. these guys wouldn't even go to classes.

[namwob99]

uni is a piece of piss anyway. these guys wouldn't even go to classes.
My Facebook news reel disagrees!! Have heard once or twice that the tests are hard.

[Jetmaster]

Not any more - just depends on how rich your mum and dad are...

[The Dunster]

My Facebook news reel disagrees!! Have heard once or twice that the tests are hard.

Opening a jar of vegimete is hard for most khunts with facebook accounts. Let alone a uni degree.

[Jeterpool]

Opening a jar of vegimete is hard for most khunts with facebook accounts. Let alone a uni degree.

:roflz:

[belchardo]

SBS2 to be 'home of domestic football' and 'binge' TV

SBS will push into the young-skewing digital TV space by re-launching its SBS2 digital channel with a raft of edgy new shows and A-League football.

That digital space has been transformed in the last two years following the launch of the commercial digital TV channels Go, 7Mate and Eleven.

SBS managing director Michael Ebeid is confident SBS2 can slice into that space with an expanded offering while remaining faithful to SBS's core values.

The new channel would be a "bold, provocative channel" aimed at a 16 to 39-year-old audience.

At an industry launch, SBS's director of TV and online content Tony Iffland announced a new schedule for SBS2, focusing on edgy shows including the US comedy Community and the British series Russell Howard's Good News.

Mr Iffland said the channel would also carry a 15-minute evening news bulletin with 30-second news headlines integrated to the channel's online offering.

The shorter, bite-sized news service would be pitched at the channel's audience who "do not engage with a traditional 30 minute bulletin," he said.

Mr Ebeid said SBS was "close" to securing a newsreader for the channel, as well as key presenters.

The channel would also carry SBS's A-League coverage, including a flagship weekly game in a 7.30pm timeslot on a Friday.

"That blockbuster Friday night game will be on SBS2. This channel will be the home of domestic football," Mr Iffland said. "This is a fabulous defining piece for this channel."

In a dramatic departure from traditional television scheduling, Mr Iffland said the channel would offer every episode of three key series after the broadcast of the first episode on the "linear" channel.

He said SBS was aiming that move at the segment of the audience who liked to "binge" on TV content.

"This is how they like their television," Mr Iffland said. "What else are they going to do? They'll go to Bit Torrent."

He said it was not something SBS would do with every show but something they would offer with "key titles".

The three series which will be available in their entirety via SBS On Demand are the edgy Canadian comedy Bullet In The Face, the travel/adventure series Don't Tell My Mother and the documentary series The Tale of Nights.

"This audience wants their media consumption in a new and different way," Mr Iffland said.

The re-vamped channel launches 6pm on April 1.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/sbs2-to-be-home-of-domestic-football-and-binge-tv-20130220-2eqc1.html#ixzz2LPDH9wVU

wonder what else they will have, presumably a highlights/analysis show.

[hawk]

just in time for the aleague offseason :( hope they show ZPL as a subby

[Buddha]

not enough porn on SBS anymore, whatever happened to the good old days of Sex Before Soccer?

[MFKS]

I think that is the idea of appealing to the 16-39 year old market and remaining faithful to SBS values.

Friday nights will see some Euro Stick Flick then the HAL then some more stick flicks soft porn to see the night out

If thats the case I ain't going to games on Friday nights any more:pissup::fap:

[furns]

^bumpage

This thread should prove interesting with SBS stuff starting tonight with Thursday FC and Santo Sam and Eds Total Football on FS1 on monday along with the general HAL coverage.

not to mention live streaming for those o/s http://www.aleague.livesport.tv/

[Jetmaster]

Am thinking that SS&E will be immensely superior......the thought of Zdrilllic's increased profile this season troubles me.

And Lucy Zelic just looks, and sounds, too much like her brother !

Will view a couple of times I think.

[GazFish35]

SBS are going to regret not getting Santo and his mob signed up straight after the last WC.

The B-League numpties will be out of a job I reckon, or might get santo Sam and Ed writing better gags for them

[q-money]

And Lucy Zelic just looks, and sounds, too much like her brother !

look at her chest then m8

[furns]

This is like a hour version of the B-League with shitter production levels

Zdrilic is not a comic ffs he is trying too hard

[Grimario]

This is really average so far. And if this chick is going to be the biggest thing in Australian music in the coming years, Australian music is in trouble. Awful.

[Blackmac79]

It will improve. Can tell they are all new to this.

Got to find their happy medium and go with it. Will take a few weeks to settle.

Just glad they are giving 110%


Get used to hearing the above this season

[Grimario]

It will improve. Can tell they are all new to this.

Got to find their happy medium and go with it. Will take a few weeks to settle.

Just glad they are giving 110%


Get used to hearing the above this season

It's improved. Heskey is on.

[Blackmac79]

Mans an orgasm.

[Thomas477]

Not a fan of the comic tbh, could do we less music and trying to be funny across the board.

Really hope it improves over the coming weeks.

[Swifts]

It got better over the course of the show.

[furns]

really overdid the music, needs to be the one band maybe two songs
And Zdrilic isnt funny, and needs to stop trying so hard.

[Jetmaster]

Just noted that the B-League will be back on Sundays as well...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRzeY3LJvms&feature=youtu.be

[GazFish35]

Tfc was like the b-league meets rockwhiz both trying to be Soccer AM

Will no doubt get better

[Blackmac79]

Something to improve it:

- reduce it to maybe 1 guest band + the house
- keep guests on the couch after their interview.
- don't screw up live feeds

Heaps of its problems are just teething issues though. Getting to know how it will all go together

[Pico]

I didn't mind it, could use a bit of polish and needs to drop at least one of the music acts for starters.

Not sure what people were expecting from this show though, its basically a pilot show at this point it needs time to grow, perhaps they should not have been as adventurous and tried a pre-recorded and edited show to let the presenter's and the production crew grow into it. The real problem is that they are going to be continually compared to Santo Sam & Ed, which is completely unfair when you consider the production, TV & panel hosting experience & comedic experience that is involved, compared to SBS's completely raw team.

[Bon]

look at her chest then m8

Q on the money, once again..

[Thomas477]

The real problem is that they are going to be continually compared to Santo Sam & Ed, which is completely unfair when you consider the production, TV & panel hosting experience & comedic experience that is involved, compared to SBS's completely raw team.

Well maybe that's the problem? Same as with the Jets last year, we had a lot of youngsters without A-League time under their belt, and it took a season for them to adjust. Maybe they should have looked at getting 1 experienced host with a couple of newbies rather than a completely inexperienced team?

[GazFish35]

Less small "nothing" interviews, talk to the players longer FFS.

Less shit music.

[joel31]

Less small "nothing" interviews, talk to the players longer FFS.

Less shit music.
This

[Bon]

I'm watching it on SBS by Demand right now..
5 minutes in and its not bad.. TBH I was expecting it to be a lot worse!

[GazFish35]

I was waiting the whole show for Lucy to bust out a "oh my gawd"

Disappointed it didn't happen.

[Bon]

I was waiting the whole show for Lucy to bust out a "oh my gawd"

Disappointed it didn't happen.

I've been watching so far just to see her bust..
Disappointed they haven't come out yet.

[Grimario]

243k viewers on FTA last night.

[Jetmaster]

243k viewers on FTA last night.

That worries me.

How do they know so quickly.....PRISM anyone ?

[Premy]

115k on fox

[selassie]

i get a hard on every time lucy pronounces a wog name.

[boz-monaut]

who is this Sarah Jelly?

[Jetmaster]

Straight away thought wrestling....

[plague]

who is this Sarah Jelly?

that was embarrassment.
employ new blonde chick with accent to read tweets.

anyone know a good spot where i can go neck myself?

[plague]

although for the 5 mins i watched (lol at Bridges being on TV AGAIN).
It was noted that the Ferrera dude from Adelaide (sry bout speeling) trailed with us but couldnt get a contract.


as mentioned before anyone know where I can neck myself in peace?

[MFKS]

Santo Sam and ED burning GVE.

Got caught on TV checking out Elyse Perry's rack :sup:

[leftrightout]

Love those guys! Great show, funny as ever... not long enough though, half an hour just seemed too rushed!

[Jetmaster]

Was waiting for the product placement and got it with Holger's loaf !

Slightly hoping for some A-League impersonations.

[Thomas477]

Still don't like the "comedian". Show would be fine without it imo.

[furns]

much better than last weeks effort
one band, bit more football discussion, less other sports crap and filler

now if it was actually funny.....

[Premy]

B-

[seldom]

very cringeworthy

[Grimario]

Matt Okine is what's wrong with that show most of all. Otherwise it was miles better than last week. They could do with less filler and spend a few more minutes interviewing guests or push it out to 90 minutes.

Mckain bit was the highlight.

[seldom]

who the fvck is Matt Okine BTW ?

[Premy]

who the fvck is Matt Okine BTW ?

Some Twat from Brisbane. I would like to see Lucy and Zdrilla host the show themselves then bring in a different guest host (comedian) weekly.

[Thomas477]

Some Twat from Brisbane. I would like to see Lucy and Zdrilla host the show themselves then bring in a different guest host (comedian) weekly.

Or even a player. Imagine if they had Heskey co hosting in the first week. It would allow us to get to know that player a bit more, as opposed to a 5 minute interview.

[Jetmaster]

I said ages ago a comedian host will try too hard to be funny, they always do...that Jules does it on Back Page alot.

Zdrillic isn't a natural and looks forced.

Lucy has the style and professionalism but isn't as gorgeous as Mariana or Mel, or as much fun as Tara appears to be.

I switched over to the news after a while.

[Jetmaster]

Or even a player. Imagine if they had Heskey co hosting in the first week. It would allow us to get to know that player a bit more, as opposed to a 5 minute interview.

The one player that shows natural talent for this sort of stuff right now would have to be Archie.

[hawk]

I said ages ago a comedian host will try too hard to be funny, they always do...that Jules does it on Back Page alot.
Zdrillic isn't a natural and looks forced.
Lucy has the style and professionalism but isn't as gorgeous as Mariana or Mel, or as much fun as Tara appears to be.
I switched over to the news after a while.

bit saturday disney/footy show/variety italian style. better than deadpan les, but pass

[Grimario]

Wish Fox had a free replay of Santo Sam & Ed. Probably the only reason to get Foxtel with the Jets away games being so horrific to watch and all.

[MFKS]

Need some comedy then get the big man Lljubo on there.

Bloke will bring the lulz

[Blackmac79]

Pretty sure they replay it before the Friday game.

[pv4]

Wish Fox had a free replay of Santo Sam & Ed. Probably the only reason to get Foxtel with the Jets away games being so horrific to watch and all.

You can DL it from Across the Tasman

[pv4]

Need some comedy then get the big man Lljubo on there.

Bloke will bring the lulz

Ljubo is what ThursdayFC need

[hawk]

You can DL it from Across the Tasman

:grin:

[pv4]

:grin:

;)

[furns]

Thursday FC will be crossing to some Jets players at The Duke tomorrow night - they are asking for as many supporters as possible to come along and get their mugs on the tele.

[Jetmaster]

Thursday FC will be crossing to some Jets players at The Duke tomorrow night - they are asking for as many supporters as possible to come along and get their mugs on the tele.

Pfft - shit show that I bailed on after two weeks, don't even find Lucy particularly attractive.

[GazFish35]

It's slowly getting better

[Jetmaster]

Swap Zdrilla and the token comic with Les (who was a rock singer btw) and Foz to provide the funnies (eg - Ange interview 2)....and I'm there!

[joel31]

Would be better without the music

[sammydog]

That band butchering Queen and Led Zep was not music. Pub bands like that are why we now have pokies instead of live music.

And FFS, stop with shit like Les Murray throwing a rugby ball, and the reporter up here banging on about how its not a rugby league heartland anymore. Just makes our code look insecure, and its only SBS that carries on with that crap.

[hawk]

That band butchering Queen and Led Zep was not music. Pub bands like that are why we now have pokies instead of live music.

And FFS, stop with shit like Les Murray throwing a rugby ball, and the reporter up here banging on about how its not a rugby league heartland anymore. Just makes our code look insecure, and its only SBS that carries on with that crap.

show is a muck hole, sack it.

[plague]

Mel who?
https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/1005462_549144768453877_573506903_n.jpg
Fapping has a new name, and its name is Tara.

[furns]

yowza

[Jetmaster]

Pretty sure that is not Tara...but this is.....

438

439

And would love to see how this ended...

440

[plague]

Pretty sure that is not Tara...\

Pretty sure you are trying to be a wet blanket.

No need for that type of talk.

[plague]

Pretty sure that is not Tara...but this is.....



and you are correct, it is not Tara.
Please accept this photo of the delightful Alana Smith from Fox Sports News and her naked stomach as a measure of contrition.
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9GrWUCCQAA9EC_.jpg:small

[Jetmaster]

Sounds like Tara wowed the doubters last night - even the wife said "she's showing some leg"...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqsvSN1ayKs

[Premy]

Jimeoin should have his own weekly show on SBS for the A-League.

[Imyourhero]

Good quality?

[Premy]

Yeah was a good laugh.

[furns]

Needs a better and larger audience, some great jokes that they barely reacted to

This is what that other SBS football show that was cancelled should have been. You know - funny.

[Grimario]

Needs a better and larger audience, some great jokes that they barely reacted to

This is what that other SBS football show that was cancelled should have been. You know - funny.

Vastly different reaction on twitter...

Couldn't find an Australian host? This show is like a bad primary school production. I'm cringing. #thefullbrazilian #fullbraziliantv #sbs
Can imagine the pitch meeting: "It'll be like Roy & HG's The Dream...only with Jimoen and a creepy leather jacket." #thefullbrazilian
Getting a #fullbrazilian would be less painful than watching #thefullbrazilian on #sbs I tried, I really did, but enough is enough!
Are these people like Jimeóin and Nazeem Hussain normally funny, but soccer has drained it out of them? #thefullbrazilian
Wow! #TheFullBrazilian is literally the worst TV I've seen since Kerry Packer pulled Doug Mulray off air mid show in 1992 #epicfail
Had to turn #TheFullBrazilian off, just terrible. Get some half decent hosts. Didn't sbs learn from Thursday fc failure smh.
wow .. can't believe I am still watching #thefullbrazilian How did #SBS think this was a good idea?
#thefullbrazilian #SBSWorldCup Jimeoin and friends are attempting to be funny/entertaining re World Cup - Abysmal
What is this? Who are these people? I can't look away. #thefullbrazilian #trainwreck
Jimeoin needs to be subbed off. Or dropped. Yeah. Dropped #thefullbrazilian #SBSWorldCup


In 2 pages of #TheFullBrazilian, I couldn't find a single positive comment :gent:

[furns]

Maybe I was allowing the utter shite that was Thursday FC to cloud my judgement. It wasnt that bad, but still wasnt great.
At least Jimeoin is an actual comedian, unlike Matt Okine who pretends to be one.

[Grimario]

I would probably love it since I am quite fond of Jimoein. If Bob Franklin is also on it, it could well be the greatest TV show on earth.

[Pico]

Turned it off, felt exactly like Thursday FC, great concept poor execution. Was always going to be up against it with the inevitable comparisons with Santo Sam and ed.

[la bazzle]

Was stinking and awkward at times. Sbs just need to give up on this concept

[The Dunster]

Turned it off, felt exactly like Thursday FC, great concept poor execution. Was always going to be up against it with the inevitable comparisons with Santo Sam and ed.

+1 It was woeful.

[leftrightout]

I watched a couple of episodes on the weekend and i thought it was quite good. Certainly alot better than Thursday FC.

But for those who dont know... https://twitter.com/SantoSamEd/status/479815996543229952

Oh Yes! its back!

[The Dunster]

A rusty hacksaw blade enema would be better than Thursday FC.

[leftrightout]

A rusty hacksaw blade enema would be better than Thursday FC.

yes, it was truly awful!

[pv4]

I kinda liked Thursday FC. Maybe Lucy Zelic clouded my judgement though - man I love her!

[OmeletteDuFromage]

I kinda liked Thursday FC. Maybe Lucy Zelic clouded my judgement though - man I love her!

I literally found her head the worst part.

[pv4]

I literally found her head the worst part.

Don't talk smack about my future wife m8

[belchardo]

viewing figures for the socceroos thus far

v Chile - 1.4m (average), 2.4m (peak)
v Netherlands - 0.769m (average), 0.871m (peak)

not bad really, will be interesting to see how they go tonight

[Blackmac79]

viewing figures for the socceroos thus far

v Chile - 1.4m (average), 2.4m (peak)
v Netherlands - 0.769m (average), 0.871m (peak)

not bad really, will be interesting to see how they go tonight

Fairly sure I read that they had like 300k streams for the first game and 89k or something for the second too.

Crazy considering it was on tv at the same time. Future is here

[Jetmaster]

I literally found her head the worst part.

Something about her doesn't click with me....I think it is because she overdoes the makeup, also she comes across a bit "plum in mouth".

That said, she eased up on the makeup today and showed a bit of boob (probably missed the alarm)....looked much hotter for it.

[hawk]

This is what that other SBS football show that was cancelled should have been. You know - funny.

but that show was fked on many levels. Maybe if they put on a decent show it would rate and stay. SSE goes ok on fox

Full braz is funny with the Jimoin start bit but struggles for large parts. Nazeem Hussain is lame but that other stupid cvnt at the desk is hoar.

[hawk]

Something about her doesn't click with me....I think it is because she overdoes the makeup, also she comes across a bit "plum in mouth".

That said, she eased up on the makeup today and showed a bit of boob (probably missed the alarm)....looked much hotter for it.

maybe because she can roll her tongue over the wog names she gets a gig and fits in with the rest. She does at least pretend to take an interest in whats going on.

Foz is killing with his reports from Braz.

[hawk]

viewing figures for the socceroos thus far

v Chile - 1.4m (average), 2.4m (peak)
v Netherlands - 0.769m (average), 0.871m (peak)

not bad really, will be interesting to see how they go tonight

ratings halved. lol

[WolfMan]

^^^

Must remember, the Chile game was on at the brilliant time of 8am Saturday. The other 2 have been 2am midweek. Of course numbers were going to drop

[Grimario]

So...

Ned Zelic joins Foxsports

That's ****ing excellent, he's a massive step up compared to the mouth breathers they have at the moment.

[parksey]

yeah bloody oath.

could be tough to watch a panel consisting of bozza and zelic though.

[MFKS]

So...

Ned Zelic joins Foxsports

That's ****ing excellent, he's a massive step up compared to the mouth breathers they have at the moment.

Ridiculous that the most talented bloke on their roster is actually Bozza. Bloke knows more about the game than the rest of them put together.

Gonna love watching Ned pause and accentuate the shit out of everything

[Grimario]

Ridiculous that the most talented bloke on their roster is actually Bozza. Bloke knows more about the game than the rest of them put together.

Gonna love watching Ned pause and accentuate the shit out of everything

Bozza's a mouth breather because he snorted so much coke is nose is completely ruined.

[MFKS]

Bozza's a mouth breather because he snorted so much coke is nose is completely ruined.

Bloke was knocking back the cigars in Brazil.


Every second time I saw him he had a Boss Hog like cigar hanging out the mouth

[plague]

I like listening to Bozza.
Don't go much for the rest of em.

Adam Peacock is good as a host.

Tara is hot.
And yes that is massively sexist but also massively true.

[Premy]

I actually don't mind Slater, Harper on the other hand FFS.

[Jetmaster]

I actually don't mind Slater

That is crap....!

[plague]

I actually don't mind Slater.

He won the Premier League you know.
He also played with Alan Shearer in the Premier League you know.

Anyone who steals catch phrases from John Gregory is a terrible human.


(Premier League though....)

[Bon]

That is crap....!

Yeah i gotta say.. I hate Slater waaaaaaay more than any of the tripe that Harper can spew up..

[MFKS]

Yeah i gotta say.. I hate Slater waaaaaaay more than any of the tripe that Harper can spew up..

The thing with Slater is he just comes across as unintelligent about the game all he is good for is blowing smoke up the arse of the team he is rooting for or coming up with some stupid expression like giving it some violence

Harper on the other hand comes across as intelligent but obnoxious as he spews forth his crap. :facepalm:

Neither though are the worst on Foxtel.

That Gary Phillips bloke got a gig this year cause he is one of the worst I have ever heard anytime in any code??

[Grimario]

Yeah, no idea why they thought a jockey would make a good football commentator.

Speedy, Hill and sadly, Cockerill are the pick of the commentators. Peacock, Zappa, Rushing, Rudan all good in studio.

[Jeterpool]

The thing with Slater is he just comes across as unintelligent about the game all he is good for is blowing smoke up the arse of the team he is rooting for or coming up with some stupid expression like giving it some violence

Harper on the other hand comes across as intelligent but obnoxious as he spews forth his crap. :facepalm:

Neither though are the worst on Foxtel.

That Gary Phillips bloke got a gig this year cause he is one of the worst I have ever heard anytime in any code??

*slow clap* 1000000000%!!!

[MFKS]

Yeah, no idea why they thought a jockey would make a good football commentator.

Speedy, Hill and sadly, Cockerill are the pick of the commentators. Peacock, Zappa, Rushing, Rudan all good in studio.
Ain't a jockey the Bloke Used to be a player back in the day.

Also coached and won the NSL with Syd Olympic if I remember right

[Premy]

Ain't a jockey the Bloke Used to be a player back in the day.

Also coached and won the NSL with Syd Olympic if I remember right
Didn't he have a stint with strikers also?

[MFKS]

Didn't he have a stint with strikers also?
Think so as a player though. Don't recall him coaching them.

Do recall him getting the arse the season after winning the title at Olympic though.

If only Con had of done the same with us and GVE history may have been altered and we may not be this inept

[plague]

coming up with some stupid expression like giving it some violence

The sad part was he didn't even come up with that stupid expression. He stole that stupid expression from someone else who uses that stupid expression.


Premier League though........

[Blackmac79]

Just watched the "best a-league moments" video.

Fox love flares.

[Blackmac79]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQTNHhDTC54


Some of the best shit on tv.

[Blackmac79]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDvc3QclbVc

[Blackmac79]

The Caramello bear defending approach.... really soft in the middle.

In my opinion they look constipated. They get to the front third and the whole thing just blocks up completely.




Could explain the jets.

[Jetmaster]

Last years squad...what are the changes?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BU1MkkFCIAEteMN.jpg:large

[Grimario]

Ain't a jockey the Bloke Used to be a player back in the day.

Also coached and won the NSL with Syd Olympic if I remember right

Really? The football pundit who knows a fair bit about football isn't a jockey? The guy they make reference to all the time of his allegiance to Brisbane football and Sydney football isn't a jockey? They guy that coached Sydney Olympic at the end of the NSW isn't a jockey?

Really?



FFS, he has a high pitch squeaky voice like someone that has been sucking on helium - I ****ing know he isn't a jockey, you buffoon!

[Premy]

Last years squad...what are the changes?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BU1MkkFCIAEteMN.jpg:large
I miss Mel

[parksey]

the worst of the lot is daniel garb.

can't believe that guy has ended up where he is.

[Thomas477]

Who the **** is the bloke on the far left? Phillips?

[MFKS]

Who the **** is the bloke on the far left? Phillips?

Yep thats Grimarios mate who is a jockey apparently:facepalm::whistling:

[plague]

Ain't a jockey

At least we now know that Captain Obvious is a MFKS multi.
Otherwise he would have swooped on such a comment toot sweet.

Also: how's Biraz reposting photos of himself with the awesome fact he kept a whole 6 clean sheets last year.
Sad.

[Blackmac79]

6/27 ain't that bad.

[Thomas477]

6/27 ain't that bad.

Especially given how many games Gallaway, Pepper and Mitchell played.

[MFKS]

At least we now know that Captain Obvious is a MFKS multi.
Otherwise he would have swooped on such a comment toot sweet.

Also: how's Biraz reposting photos of himself with the awesome fact he kept a whole 6 clean sheets last year.
Sad.

I don't do multis.

It ain't like I am afraid to say what i think or care whether people agree.

What purpose would I have for a multi?? NONE

Do an IP check or whatever you want but you will find I have none

[plague]

I don't do multis.

It ain't like I am afraid to say what i think or care whether people agree.

What purpose would I have for a multi?? NONE

Do an IP check or whatever you want but you will find I have none

You seriously need to lighten up sometimes Member.

[Captain Obvious]

You seriously need to lighten up sometimes Member.

Oh don't worry, I'm here. And a big hello to you too.

[plague]

6/27 ain't that bad.

Nor was being the 5th Beatle.
But it was still pretty ****ing lame.

[Grimario]

Also: how's Biraz reposting photos of himself with the awesome fact he kept a whole 6 clean sheets last year.
Sad.


6/27 ain't that bad.

6/23 actually. And of keepers >20 games last season, that puts him 5th best behind Covic, Galekovic, Vukovic and Reddy.

BK with 2 from 4 isn't too bad. Should start him in Rd 1.

[plague]

6/23 actually. And of keepers >20 games last season, that puts him 5th best behind Covic, Galekovic, Vukovic and Reddy.

BK with 2 from 4 isn't too bad. Should start him in Rd 1.

Not debating the stat.
Debating the need to repost photos of yourself claiming that stat.

The only stat that matters on nf.net is 'actual dives as a total % of situations where a dive would have been rad'.




Or something.....

[GazFish35]

Not debating the stat.
Debating the need to repost photos of yourself claiming that stat.

The only stat that matters on nf.net is 'actual dives as a total % of situations where a dive would have been rad'.




Or something.....

Tsk tsk tsk, you've been here long enough to know it's got nothing to do with the "dive radness:scenario" ratio and everything to with the "the other bloke would have dived:scenario" ratio.

Keep up (no pun intended)

[Merlot]

Season preview on SBS2 now if anyone's about and didn't know already.

[Blackmac79]

Done jets yet?

[MFKS]

Done jets yet?

Basically said we are ****ed and will finish ****ing last.

Got to love the incompetence of Zdrillic says he has NFI on the situation at the Jets as he hasn't been following our fortunes (most likely cause he is to busy fapping off over the Wankerers and Smurfs) yet says he expects us to finish last.

So as a pundit the bloke does no Research then I take it.

Couldn't care less about what he thinks and bear no grudge if he thinks we are shit but FFS at least do your ****ing research too form a ****ing opinion

[Thomas477]

Don't think he's too far off though tbf.

[MFKS]

Don't think he's too far off though tbf.
Being close to the mark isn't the point. The issue is he admitted he hadn't a clue as too what was going on at Jets yet then runs his mouth on the club.

Even loved the bit how for some reason our new signings are a reason we will be shite cause he reckons they may/may not work out for us yet every other club who has made new signings will not have this issue for some reason??

FFS Every club has made new signings so a few clubs are gonna have a shit season cause end of the day only 6 from ten make the semis.
Every club has legitimate semi final claims and I can guarantee Zdrilla one thing four of them will not make them

**** Him

[Skirt Boy]

Being close to the mark isn't the point. The issue is he admitted he hadn't a clue as too what was going on at Jets yet then runs his mouth on the club.

Even loved the bit how for some reason our new signings are a reason we will be shite cause he reckons they may/may not work out for us yet every other club who has made new signings will not have this issue for some reason??

FFS Every club has made new signings so a few clubs are gonna have a shit season cause end of the day only 6 from ten make the semis.
Every club has legitimate semi final claims and I can guarantee Zdrilla one thing four of them will not make them

**** Him

**** your an angry prick. You need to get laid or something.

[snake]

Don't think he's too far off though tbf.

he's correct, but the reasoning was insufficient

it's like a maths exam, where you need to show working

[furns]

**** your an angry prick. You need to get laid or something.or pics of semi clothed females :wink:

[hawk]

Basically said we are ****ed and will finish ****ing last.
he's pretty close


Got to love the incompetence of Zdrillic most likely cause he is to busy fapping off over the Wankerers and Smurfs
correct

[leftrightout]

Santo Sam and Ed kicked off last night. Goes for one hour each week now and just as funny as ever!
So glad these guys are on TV each week!

[belchardo]

only caught bits of it, thought the kiwi thing was pretty lame, the rest I chuckled at.

[BodyNovo]

gotta give it to the guys at foxsports, besides the usual harper and slater crap there promotion of the a league the last 2 weeks has been unreal

there website is basically just all a league, been good watching all the old videos from season 1 through till now.

[Premy]

Thursday Night Sports Show.
Hosted by Mel and Sam Mac, had Muscat on tonight and gave Football and the A-League a fair plug. Bit of comedy, little bit cheesey but all up not to bad.

Did i Mention Mel is the host, oh Mel :wub:

[leftrightout]

Thursday Night Sports Show.
Hosted by Mel and Sam Mac, had Muscat on tonight and gave Football and the A-League a fair plug. Bit of comedy, little bit cheesey but all up not to bad.

Did i Mention Mel is the host, oh Mel :wub:

What channel was that one? 10 im assuming it Mels on it? Aaahh mel the only thing that makes T20 bearable!

[Premy]

What channel was that one? 10 im assuming it Mels on it? Aaahh mel the only thing that makes T20 bearable!
I guess that would be helpful. It's on One.

[leftrightout]

Foxsports.... that was a great 10 year montage!
Some huge moments in there... made me remember when we were good!

[Jeterpool]

Last time we were good...Grimario's FM game

[Jetmaster]

So Fox with Brenton Speed, Slater and SD picture v SBS with Basheer, Bolton and HD.....tough call.

Going for the HD so far.

[leftrightout]

So Fox with Brenton Speed, Slater and SD picture v SBS with Basheer, Bolton and HD.....tough call.

Going for the HD so far.

It took me 25 minutes of listening to Slater to realise its now on SBS one and HD! ****ing how good is HD!

[GazFish35]

Is abc grandstand in sync with the TV, they have Steve horvatt and Francis leach calling the game. They're great to listen too.

[furns]

Radio is usually about 10 seconds in front of the telecast I think?

[belchardo]

Tara. So hot.

[Jetmaster]

Tara. So hot.

Why does she not uncross her legs on the couch?

[Grimario]

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/saturday-night-a-league-on-sbs-and-fox-sports/1rv9g1g6eofnw1wnxfzsz5wpvi

[Premy]

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/saturday-night-a-league-on-sbs-and-fox-sports/1rv9g1g6eofnw1wnxfzsz5wpvi
This is great news.
I would love to see this for the new TV deal in 2017, mainstream channels can get farked

[Blackmac79]

I tend to agree. ALeague on sbs > aleague on 7

[Blackmac79]

Apparently SBS have signed some new advertising deals for the A-league coverage which have enabled them to purchase more content from foxsports. Hence the saturday night games. I would imagine if they rate well, which if they like friday hold up 100K+ ratings they would become regular, depends on the impact on fox's ratings too I suppose.

[MFKS]

Apparently SBS have signed some new advertising deals for the A-league coverage which have enabled them to purchase more content from foxsports. Hence the saturday night games. I would imagine if they rate well, which if they like friday hold up 100K+ ratings they would become regular, depends on the impact on fox's ratings too I suppose.
Actually all is well with this as besides getting the product out there to a wider market than Foxtel the ratings will assist convincing the likes of Nine and Ten and Seven etc to actually make serious bids next time the TV Rights are up as they may be able to squeeze more than 100k out with their much wider market share.

Even if none of them get the rights the more that bid the greater deal we get

[furns]

I think that there might be a possibility of Seven picking up the rights next time around.
Losing the V8's means all they have will be the AFL. This leaves them with a gaping hole in their schedule with no sport to fill it in the summer.
Nein has the cricket and league, Ten is now wall to wall motorsport.

If Seven does end up with ALeague, it might actually force them to treat the sport properly rather than bury it or ignore it completely (unless its the WC). This in turn might get more of the mainstream media on our side.

[The Dunster]

They had their chance and they shit on the game, the players, and the fans.
Based on what happened in the past Channel Seven should NEVER be given the rights to broadcast any A-league matches.

[GazFish35]

I think that there might be a possibility of Seven picking up the rights next time around.
Losing the V8's means all they have will be the AFL. This leaves them with a gaping hole in their schedule with no sport to fill it in the summer.
Nein has the cricket and league, Ten is now wall to wall motorsport.

If Seven does end up with ALeague, it might actually force them to treat the sport properly rather than bury it or ignore it completely (unless its the WC). This in turn might get more of the mainstream media on our side.

Jim wilson will have your nuts on toast if he ever hears you suggesting 7 don't care about football.

If seen him blow up deluxe on twitter only to make it worse for himself by saying seven has always supported the game......ever since WSW etc etc

[furns]

They had their chance and they shit on the game, the players, and the fans.
Based on what happened in the past Channel Seven should NEVER be given the rights to broadcast any A-league matches.

I didn't say I wanted it to happen mate, I could count on one hand the number of times I watched channel 7 in the last decade or so. Just saying that is a possibility.

[MFKS]

They had their chance and they shit on the game, the players, and the fans.
Based on what happened in the past Channel Seven should NEVER be given the rights to broadcast any A-league matches.

On one hand I fully agree with you. 7 Shit on the game and deserve nothing for that.

End of the day though we need to get the game wanted by mainstream TV to grow it. If it happens to be 7 then we just have to grin and bear it for the good of the code despite how undeserving those pricks are

[Blackmac79]

Football shouldn't even be on tv.

go to the ground.

Should do what the MLS do and have a blackout in the area the game is on for the live game, increase those attending the game.

[WolfMan]

Football shouldn't even be on tv.

go to the ground.

Should do what the MLS do and have a blackout in the area the game is on for the live game, increase those attending the game.

That blackout rule has since been overturned in the states I believe. Not sure if MLS is included in the ruling, mainly NFL and baseball to my knowledge

[Jetmaster]

Tara. So hot.

Choked when I saw this on Pennant Hills Road yesterday...

941

Will try to get in at 9am as I anticipate it could get hot and sticky by 3pm.

http://greatdayout.tara.nsw.edu.au/#open-day

:wink:

[Grimario]

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/sbs-planning-to-scrap-football-in-shock-programming-upheaval-20150318-1m28og.html


While the decision has not been finalised, Fairfax Media understand the network's content division recently concluded that SBS's 35-year relationship with football – among Australian television's most iconic – should be scaled back dramatically.

[MFKS]

Les Murray at SBS - Football Constantly Showed.

Les calls time and retires - They can't wait to ship it out the door.


Just shows how great the effect the man has had on the code in the last 35 years he was at SBS

[BodyNovo]

Give it to Channel 10

Mel and tara phwooaaaaar

Wouldn't mint gilly and punter commentating the Friday night HAL

[belchardo]

can't wait for channel 9 to get the rights to the world cup and only show 1/10th of the matches.

[furns]

Les Murray at SBS - Football Constantly Showed.

Les calls time and retires - They can't wait to ship it out the door.


Just shows how great the effect the man has had on the code in the last 35 years he was at SBS

Think it has more to do with the current government cutting their budget. Not to mention government appointed consultants who are turning them into a commercial entity at the expense of their charter.

[plague]

Think it has more to do with the current government cutting their budget. Not to mention government appointed consultants who are turning them into a commercial entity at the expense of their charter.

Nah.
SBS understands that it is no longer going to be able to compete with other media outlets for the rights to big sporting events without raising the ire of taxpayers.

FFS the ABC and SBS were in a ****ing bidding war over the Asian cup games? Why are 2 taxpayer funded stations competing (and driving the price up) for the same thing?

SBS isn't a sports station, was never designed to be, but took advantage of the lack of focus from commercial TV on soccer.

It no longer has that advantage, the popularity of the national team/a-league/overseas leagues means that everyone wants a go at it.

It is no longer a fringe sport, and that's what we all want yeah? We want our game to become what it should be. Well with that comes the fact that for premium content comes a premium price.

Oz public just has to get used to paying for thier big events.
Rightly or wrongly that's how the world works now.

[snake]

FFS the ABC and SBS were in a ****ing bidding war over the Asian cup games? Why are 2 taxpayer funded stations competing (and driving the price up) for the same thing?


plague = malcolm turnbull?

[plague]

plague = malcolm turnbull?

Geez, I've been compared to Benny O'Neill and Malcolm Turnbull all in one day.

[lquiquer]

Geez, I've been compared to Benny O'Neill and Malcolm Turnbull all in one day.

Hello Benny Plague Turnbull......Get your passport in order for UAE 2019

[plague]

Hello Benny Plague Turnbull......Get your passport in order for UAE 2019

That's Shiek Bin Benny Plague Turnbull to you pal.

[lquiquer]

That's Shiek Bin Benny Plague Turnbull to you pal.

My apology Supreme Leader............

[Jeterpool]

Geez, I've been compared to Benny O'Neill and Malcolm Turnbull all in one day.

Could be worse. Could be called phil stubbins.

[joel31]

The commentary team on 7 or 10 if like All stars games is sure to be atrocious

[boz-monaut]

Could be worse. Could be called phil stubbins.

ouch - that's worse than being compared to Hitler

[plague]

Could be worse. Could be called phil stubbins.

yeah im for a laugh but that shit is bang out of order.

[Jetmaster]

A bit of education for the young guys.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_RHpt7clE

The first ever live broadcast of a national football final, 35 years ago.

Vale SBS...Forza Mr and Mrs Football.

[Xander]

Back passes and keepers with no gloves. Times have changed.

[Premy]

Now Ten are showing interest, "at the right price"

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/network-ten-interested-in-securing-rights-to-aleague-socceroos-games-20150319-1m32pm.html

[Jetmaster]

They have Mel - no brainer.

Her and Tara together on the sideline on a Friday night would make me spurt somewhat.

[Grimario]

Spurs vs Smurfs on channel 7.

http://www.anzstadium.com.au/footer/news-and-media/2015/tottenham-hotspur-and-sydney-fc-to-play-for-the-aia-cup-live-on-seven-network-at-anz-stadium-on-30-may/

[hawk]

Nah.

SBS isn't a sports station, was never designed to be, but took advantage of the lack of focus from commercial TV on soccer.

.

It was designated to cover football from its inception as it is linked largely to its multicultural programmimg.

I sat and watched the test pattern for a week in anticipation.

[belchardo]

Sam pang on afl 360 :angry: :slap:

[leftrightout]

Sam pang on afl 360 :angry: :slap:

Didn't realise you were only allowed to watch and like only one sport?

[belchardo]

Didn't realise you were only allowed to watch and like only one sport?

yeah, pretty sure it's written in the fine print.

I don't think it was a regular thing, he's apparently hosting an after game gathering this week.

he tried to be funny, but robbo just kept dragging him down. god I hate robbo (the guy on TV, not the guy on the foz)

[Jetmaster]

I think the thing with some of these "cross promotions" is that the other codes like to find a way to have a dig at "sockah" via the guest - ie somebody takes a dive and a boofhead goes "just like your game Sam"?

Three responses stay in my mind.....

Timmy on the NRL Footy Show....Fatty - "So Timmy, do you watch the NRL?" Timmy - "No..."

Harry on same show....Harry - "yeah, watched the Bulldogs when I was a kid"......Fatty - "Bet you get Bulldogs tapes (sic) sent over to watch in England?" Harry - "No..."

Santo on The Panel.....Journo - "so Santo, more violence overseas, why?".....Santo - "Why are you asking me again to defend my sport? It is the most popular sport in the world and it's greatest game - I don't need to defend it. Violence is linked to culture not a sport"...

[Jeterpool]

I was invited, along with two other members, to put questions to Tinkler. Any questions I wanted. I had 7 scribbled down. Apparently it's getting show on shoutout on Sunday night.

Hope you all enjoy it. Had a question about Stubbins lined up but the plug got pulled on the interview.

I asked about how they'll fix the disconnect between the fans, club and players. Asked about jets committee to supporting local football federations. Also asked how club will service a marquee when it still has outstanding debts to players and staff.

[Jetmaster]

Shame - thought you were all gonna be on the couch with Tara.

[Grimario]

Shame - thought you were all gonna be on the couch with Tara.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/4bangen/backroom-casting-couch_zps18557376.jpg (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/4bangen/media/backroom-casting-couch_zps18557376.jpg.html)

???

[belchardo]

Shame - thought you were all gonna be on the couch with Tara.

putting your average jets fan on a couch with Tara would lead to a lot of silence, opens mouths and drool. get the wrong ones and you might end up with a few indecent exposure charges as well. :D

[Jeterpool]

Shame - thought you were all gonna be on the couch with Tara.

That was how it was sold originally. Apparently it was tinkler but I heard Tara

[Premy]

So far pre game has been okay on 7.
Lets see how the commentary goes.

[Jetmaster]

So far pre game has been okay on 7.
Lets see how the commentary goes.

Not quite...10 mins in and some bimbo does a blatant cross promote of 7 network "stars", by interviewing them on the sideline and not even mentioning the game.....

[boz-monaut]

this is why I don't have commercial tv

[Premy]

I take back everything I just said