17/18 HAL Round 24 | Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets | Fri 23rd Mar 2018 7.50pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2017/18 Round 24 Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 39 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 13, United Wins - 15, Drawn - 11


In Newcastle – 18 matches.
Jets Wins - 9, United Wins - 5, Drawn - 4
In Adelaide - 21 matches
Jets Wins - 4, United Wins - 10, Drawn - 7

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9864
Average Away A-League Crowd - 9816

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 40, United - 49
In Adelaide -
Jets – 19, United - 33

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 18, United - 16

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 102 (100 yellow, 2 red), United 65 (62 yellow, 3 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - WDWWW (13 point from last 15)
United - WDLLD (5 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Andrew Nabbout (10)
United – Ryan Kitto, George Blackwood (5)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (Nabbout 55', D Petratos 89' pen) - Adelaide United 1 (Blackwood 67') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 11, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 11

Newcastle JetsAdelaide United
Glen MossPaul Izzo
John KoutroumbisMichael Marrone
Nigel BoogaardErsan Gulum
Nikolai Topor-StanleyJordan Elsey
Ivan VujicaRyan Strain
Wayne BrownIsaias
Ben KantarovskiNathan Konstandopoulos
Dimitri PetratosVince Lia
Joe ChampnessNikola Mileusnic
Andrew NabboutRyan Kitto
Steven UgarkovicGeorge Blackwood



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Kemp 12’og, Carle 22’, Zelic 68’, Carle 89’) – Adelaide 2 (Valkanis 38, Corbo 67’og) at Hindmarsh Stadium, Round 8, Season 2005/06, 14/10/2005.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Adelaide 7 (Djite 2’, 54’, Carrusca 23’, 28’, Boogaard 35’, Cirio 70’, Isais 90+3’) at Hindmarsh Stadium, A-League Season 2014/15 Round 15, 24/01/2015.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths, Nick Carle, Mark Bridge, Matt Thompson, Andrew Nabbout (3)
United - Marcelo Carrusca (6)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Jack Duncan14140012600000
3Jason Hoffman20182715795130
4Nigel Boogaard21210118821020
5Ben Kantarovski18162414543050
6Steven Ugarkovic23230320561310
7Dimitri Petratos22220519629820
8Ronald Vargas43132240100
9Roy O'Donovan1110138177231
10Wayne Brown1811789150030
11Patricio Rodriguez75244821300
12Mario Shabow7070900010
13Ivan Vujica19172215200250
15Andrew Nabbout222208190210740
16Nick Cowburn70701110000
17Daniel Georgievski15150411821270
18John Koutroumbis105524632020
19Kosta Petratos4040270000
20Glen Moss99008100000
22Lachlan Jackson93613330000
23Devante Clut5141590000
24Joe Champness211291010854110
27Riley McGree63313461000
32Angus Thurgate5050670000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley23230020701040



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 2 matches
Ernie Merrick - 2 wins, Marco Kurz - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 2 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (5 wins, 7 drawn and 5 losses = 29% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (2 wins, 2 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane - 1 match (1 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Adelaide United Coach Record – Marco Kurz 0% win ratio (0 wins, 0 drawn, 2 losses)



TALKING POINTS:

General

The Jets have the opportunity to win all 3 matches against Adelaide in a season for the first time.
Newcastle kept their 2nd consecutive away clean sheet - the first time since 2014.
A clean sheet this weekend will be the first time since November 2005 they have kept 3 clean sheets in a row on the road.
The Jets scored in their 23rd straight game. They are now 2nd on the overall standing of scoring in consecutive matches, behind Brisbane Roar (36 games).



Key Stats from Previous Round

Newcastle are the only team to have scored in their first 23 games of an A-League season.
We remain undefeated in Auckland during the A-League era.



Players

Jason Hoffman is in line for his 100th A-League apperance for the Jets, this weekend.
Newcastle have won 4, drawn 3 and lost 2 of the matches Paul Izzo has been in goal.
Dimitri Petratos will miss the match through a Socceroos call up.



Newcastle Jets

A win or draw will see the Jets equal their longest ever undefeated A-League streak (7 matches).
There has never been a game against Adelaide where a Jets player has not received a booking.
Newcastle have conceded 10 goals in the 2nd half of games this season.
The Jets 7 clean sheets this season has surpassed the total clean sheets earned in the last 2 seasons.



Adelaide United

Adelaide have scored 1 goal in each of the last 7 matches against the Jets - A-League and FFA Cup.

[hawk]

Another away game. Travel will weaken us plus jew for a loss. Draw

[Jetmaster]

Another away game. Travel will weaken us plus jew for a loss. Draw

Direct flight to Adelaide helps but this will be the hardest of our remaining fixtures with the bodies missing.

[Jeterpool]

Agree.

The rest of the games we play this year will be in NSW

[rhysd]

Agree.

The rest of the games we play this year will be in NSW

Will suit us to a tee considering we are used to being in NSW during finals time.

[Jeterpool]

Will suit us to a tee considering we are used to being in NSW during finals time.

Savage, yet so accurate

[Jeterpool]

What are people's thoughts on the game tonight?

WHo is starting in palce of Dimi? Is it Vargas or is that a red-herring by Ernie?

[leftrightout]

What are people's thoughts on the game tonight?

WHo is starting in palce of Dimi? Is it Vargas or is that a red-herring by Ernie?

Vargas to start and last as long as he possibly can.

Front 4 of Pato Vargas Mcgree and Joey

Vargas to go as close to 60 as he can and then move Hoff forward.

Premiership is a real possibility right now and 3 points tonight is essential to stand any chance. You have to play your best players.

I think it will probably be a draw but this squad has a knack of turning games that we should lose/draw into wins even with players unavailable.

[Jeterpool]

Vargas was terrific on the ball when he came on last week. Yes, it was against tired legs but he just seems to have a wonderful ability to glide across the pitch and makes passing look effortless.

I didn't think he'd start but the more and more I hear the greater the likelihood.

I think Hoff will be the player to move further forward, unless Cowburn comes in to that role. Thurgate will replace Champness.

[plague]

We never win in the wet.

Middleby ****ing up the schedule again.

5-2 loss.

[Bon]

We never win in the wet.

Middleby ****ing up the schedule again.

5-2 loss.

Whaaaaat? The Puddle has been one of our greatest contributors of assists..

[plague]

Whaaaaat? The Puddle has been one of our greatest contributors of assists..

Played the one-two with Taggart.

These bozos we have now aren’t smart enough to decipher the puddles intricate movement.

Plus Middleby let the puddle go on an ‘undisclosed fee’.

I’m sure it was a lot.

[Cunning stunts]

Duncan

Hoff
Jackson
Topa
George

Kanta
Ugar

Pato
Vargas
Mcgree

Chaps

[belchardo]

carn! 1 point wraps up top 2, 3 points scares the bejesus out of sydney!

[Bon]

With the history of the club, Jets-of-old, I would have said we are dead-set locked in to get flogged..
Players out, a chance to put REAL pressure on Sydney (who appear to be close to sh!tting the bed)..
This team Ernie has nurtured, I don't know..
I would love to believe what leftrightout said up above..

[Jeterpool]

Played the one-two with Taggart.

These bozos we have now aren’t smart enough to decipher the puddles intricate movement.

Plus Middleby let the puddle go on an ‘undisclosed fee’.

I’m sure it was a lot.

This post completely reflects what this forum is about.

[Jeterpool]

Duncan

Hoff
Jackson
Topa
George

Kanta
Ugar

Pato
Vargas
Mcgree

Chaps

I reckon you're right

[Frodo]

I think he will risk Brown in the middle to give us more structure. I think his comments about Vargas were just talk in the papers. A heavy pitch would kill his legs pretty quickly. Bring him on in the 70th once the pace is taken out of the game.

So..
Duncan
Hoff - Topor - Jackson - George
Uga - Kanta
McGree - Brown - Pato
Champness


Vargas, Cowburn and Thurgate to come on. Koutroumbus to be the other one on the bench over Shabow.

[leftrightout]

I think he will risk Brown in the middle to give us more structure. I think his comments about Vargas were just talk in the papers. A heavy pitch would kill his legs pretty quickly. Bring him on in the 70th once the pace is taken out of the game.

Why would you only give Vargas 20 minutes? He played closer to 30 last week, you don’t want to reduce his game time, they should be increasing it.
If he is on the bench and we are travelling well he will get 30 minutes. If scores are level or we are behind he will come on at half time.

Personally, I still think he will start. Ernie has spoken about the potential to start Vargas and he just doesn’t seem like the kind of coach who plays mind games.

[Cunning stunts]

is the pitch wet at Adelaide? isnt it meant to be hot and mid 20s?

[Grimario]

is the pitch wet at Adelaide? isnt it meant to be hot and mid 20s?

Hot and mid to high 20's. Why would we be expecting a heavy pitch?

[plague]

This post completely reflects what this forum is about.

You ‘get’ me JP.

I’m absolutely positive if I wasn’t such as asshole you and me would be friends in real life.

[Jeterpool]

You ‘get’ me JP.

I’m absolutely positive if I wasn’t such as asshole you and me would be friends in real life.

We've been around this place long enough to have a one-way mutual admiration (i.e. I admire what you do, and you also admire what you do)

If we'd ever met then I am sure we'd be friends too.

[Bon]

We've been around this place long enough to have a one-way mutual admiration (i.e. I admire what you do, and you also admire what you do)

If we'd ever met then I am sure we'd be friends too.

:lulzturtle:

[Frodo]

is the pitch wet at Adelaide? isnt it meant to be hot and mid 20s?

Ops:

I thought the weather that was heading down the coast was going to hit Adelaide today. Just checked the BOM and I am incorrect.

I can still see some sense in keeping Brown in from the start and introducing Ronnie after the sting has been taken out of the game. Happy if he starts over Brown tho, either way we don't lose.

[plague]

(i.e. I admire what you do, and you also admire what you do)


Dear Mods;
Please give JP many Griff points.

This is fantastic.


Cheers,
Plague.

[Tommyjet]

I think he will risk Brown in the middle to give us more structure. I think his comments about Vargas were just talk in the papers. A heavy pitch would kill his legs pretty quickly. Bring him on in the 70th once the pace is taken out of the game.

So..
Duncan
Hoff - Topor - Jackson - George
Uga - Kanta
McGree - Brown - Pato
Champness


Vargas, Cowburn and Thurgate to come on. Koutroumbus to be the other one on the bench over Shabow.

Koutroumbis and shabow both are not here in Adelaide. Brown is the other on the bench.

[Tommyjet]

Ops:

I thought the weather that was heading down the coast was going to hit Adelaide today. Just checked the BOM and I am incorrect.

I can still see some sense in keeping Brown in from the start and introducing Ronnie after the sting has been taken out of the game. Happy if he starts over Brown tho, either way we don't lose.

Definitely dry in Adelaide today, not a cloud in sight

[380]

I think Pato in the middle if Vargas does not start.

Duncs
Crazy George Jacko NTS Peoples Champ
Ugar Kanta
Hoff Pato Mc Gree
Champers

But i think Ernie will start Vargas and for Vargas to put his hand up when he is spent.

But what the fudge do i know.

[plague]

Johnny K not being able to crack this squad is a disc-race.

Merrick OUT.

[Jeterpool]

Koutroumbis and shabow both are not here in Adelaide. Brown is the other on the bench.

Answers the question about who is omitted.

[Couscous]

We are due a loss. Too many fluked victories in recent months.

[380]

We are due a loss. Too many fluked victories in recent months.

Tend to agree. I think we will do well to come away with a draw. Miserable pair of bastards we are.

[StannyCFCJET]

Tend to agree. I think we will do well to come away with a draw. Miserable pair of bastards we are.

We still been flogged this season

[hawk]

Dear Mods;
Please give JP many Griff points.

This is fantastic.


Cheers,
Plague.

nope, too much sop. Both closed to banning. Only to meet up with much spare time :shock:

oh, go Jets!

[Retro Jet]

Agent Regan??

[The Dunster]

Vargas free kick hit the bar. Probably needs to have some 1 on 1 coaching from Kristian Sarkies

[The Dunster]

Uga ****ing up royally to gift Adelaide the 1st goal. Jackson losing his man didn't help either

[Jetmaster]

Looking flat as expected...probably the weakest team we have put on the pitch this season tbh.

[The Dunster]

Jackson has no idea where to be or when to be there.

[StannyCFCJET]

Looking flat as expected...probably the weakest team we have put on the pitch this season tbh.

Only cause Vargas is unfit and Pato is ineffective

[The Dunster]

Our right side looks shit in attack as well. Very slow to react. The fast counter we had with Nabbout is missing and without it we are shit.

[The Dunster]

Wtf is the free kick 4?

[boz-monaut]

**** this

[Jetmaster]

Not even gonna score tonight.

[StannyCFCJET]

This is garbage. No one in attack looks interested in causing problems or troubling Adelaide and no one on the bench to change things either

[Frodo]

Should have started Brown. We have no balance and Adelaide are easily blocking off the channels. Simple game plan from them working a treat.

That said, once someone breaks through that first line of defence we will do damage. Adelaide can't hold a lead so this could easily end 2-2.

[sorefootballer]

Feeling all the same emotions as the years gone past. They are not fun

[plague]

Ugabooga and Jackson are horrid tonight.

prob a good movie on somewhere though.

[belchardo]

i'm going to just write this game off. this is honking.

[The Dunster]

Pato is the new Finkler in that he's either amazing or a complete waste of space.

Adelaide doing well though and showing us up with more mongrel off the ball and more fluent passing when in possession.

[belchardo]

Ugabooga and Jackson are horrid tonight.

prob a good movie on somewhere though.

rabada v warner on the cricket. warner just smoked him for three pretty sweet drives.

[belchardo]

Pato is the new Finkler in that he's either amazing or a complete waste of space.

Adelaide doing well though and showing us up with more mongrel off the ball and more fluent passing when in possession.

pato pretty anonymous, but that run towards the end of the half was pretty sweet. whole midfield is pretty anonymous.

although i did enjoy the mcgree v champness blow up.

[halo se7en]

Nabbout papered over the fact that we don’t have a backup striker which seems crucial with Roy in the squad. We’re feeling it now, although the shit midfield tonight is playing a big part too.

[Frodo]

Pato is the only one of the front four who looks switched on. He is the only one I'm confident can find a pass. Everyone else is leaving me very worried.
Champ doesn't know which way is up. Mcgree is running around like a kid with no structure. Vargas looks like he short of fitness.

[Couscous]

Andrew Nabbout is my hero.

[Frodo]

Need to throw some money at Spiranovic if he is still available.

[Hunter403]

We look like exactly what we are: a team that has brought in "new players" with no recognised no 9. From here to the finals is just "get to know you games". Give them a cuple fo weeks to gel and things will get better, particularly when Our Caravan gets back on and up to speed.

[belchardo]

lol. what an arsey goal

[The Dunster]

Kanta .....

[Jetmaster]

Oh well...at least we got that goal.

[Jetmaster]

First time we have copped three this season.

[The Dunster]

No boogs no title. Our defence is woeful

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Season over, fold the club.

[StannyCFCJET]

First time we have copped three this season.

2nd Wellington at home

[plague]

rabada v warner on the cricket. warner just smoked him for three pretty sweet drives.

Did you see the nut that got him out?

Fair delivery.

How’s the fat bloke giving Warner the big ones on the way off? Bloke should be back home protecting his farm from the oncoming invasion.

Cricket is ace.

[belchardo]

jeez, when it's not your night...

good to see takka back on the field. he'll score a hat-trick.

[Retro Jet]

First time we have copped three this season.
Feck...and 4!

[Jetmaster]

2nd Wellington at home

I meant to say four...

[belchardo]

Did you see the nut that got him out?

Fair delivery.

How’s the fat bloke giving Warner the big ones on the way off? Bloke should be back home protecting his farm from the oncoming invasion.

Cricket is ace.

missed the wicket. kawaja out now, 3 minutes before lunch.

[rhysd]

Need boogard back.

[Frodo]

Oh well, at least this removes any thought of chasing down Sydney. They can have the favourites tag and we can steal the GF from them in as dubious circumstances as possible.

Definitely need another CB tho. Jackson isn't any better than a backup. Sorry big buddy just calling it as it is. Not his fault tonite by any means. But looks nowhere near where he needs to be at.

[sorefootballer]

bloke should be back home protecting his farm from the oncoming invasion.

lol

[Retro Jet]

Oh well...at least we got that goal.
The only silver lining....

[belchardo]

lol, just gets better and better

[belchardo]

farking hell

[sorefootballer]

Always need a drubbing for the season

[Frodo]

Hoffman. Making sure the wheels well and truly fall off tonite.

[Retro Jet]

Damage control now Ernie...

Don't worry, this 'll be the only highlight these red kents will have this season.

[The Dunster]

Hoff decided he's had enough and put his hand up for an early shower pass.

[belchardo]

the only jets player getting any points from tonight are the ones that didn't get off the bench.

[sorefootballer]

We gave up after 2 goals. Pathetic.

[mic22]

Jeez, back to the old Jets for one night...

[The Dunster]

Feel sorry for Jackson. Kids trying hard but he's simply not ready to take on a starting role at this level.

[Frodo]

Feel sorry for Jackson. Kids trying hard but he's simply not ready to take on a starting role at this level.

I love seeing him lumber around the pitch awkwardly. But he just isn't good enough for the HAL. He's the defensive version of Virgilli.

Has some of the necessary attributes but is lacking in to many areas.

[belchardo]

have we hit one pass to our own player?

[rhysd]

Feel sorry for Jackson. Kids trying hard but he's simply not ready to take on a starting role at this level.

I think Kantarovski has to play CB.

[halo se7en]

Just when the media started talking about Sydney wobbling, trust the Jets to come out and say “Hey Sydney, you have ****ing zero to worry about!”

[Frodo]

I think Kantarovski has to play CB.
Uga played so bad tonight that if Kanta wasn't in midfield we would have been even worse. Gotta stay in midfield.


Especially with all these goals. Haha. What a beast.

[Retro Jet]

Did Kanta just put that in with his pe#!s? How easy was that?

[380]

have we hit one pass to our own player?


The nucleus of our issues tonight IMO. You could count the number of completed passes on one hand. Not sure about criticism of the Argentine, he looked like the only one with the sorts to cut the Reds defence.

[StannyCFCJET]

Pato needs to be dropped and thank god Roy is back

[halo se7en]

If nothing else, the goal streak continues... not much of a consolation though

[belchardo]

ref finally shows some mercy and blows it up 2 seconds early.

[Jetmaster]

Vital Kanta goals just incase Victory do catch us.

[rhysd]

Uga played so bad tonight that if Kanta wasn't in midfield we would have been even worse. Gotta stay in midfield.


Especially with all these goals. Haha. What a beast.

How much of that stemmed from having a gash CB pairing tonight?

We had no authority, no distribution, no control. Boogard provides a load of those qualities in spades. Hoffman was playing too close to Jackson all night and our midfield were non existant.

We need someone who can play next to topor. I’m sorry, but Jackson is not our answer and unfortunately the only one in the squad who comes close is kanta.

That or we need to sign an injury waiver player to cover cb.

[rhysd]

Pato needs to be dropped and thank god Roy is back

Don’t think that was the problem.

[goaliepersempre]

We never win in the wet.

Middleby ****ing up the schedule again.

5-2 loss.

Prophet...

hopefully thats our bad loss for the season out of the system...

[plague]

We never win in the wet.

Middleby ****ing up the schedule again.

5-2 loss.

ok ill post it.

[plague]

Prophet....

i knew you were going to post that

[Frodo]

How much of that stemmed from having a gash CB pairing tonight?

We had no authority, no distribution, no control. Boogard provides a load of those qualities in spades. Hoffman was playing too close to Jackson all night and our midfield were non existant.

We need someone who can play next to topor. I’m sorry, but Jackson is not our answer and unfortunately the only one in the squad who comes close is kanta.

That or we need to sign an injury waiver player to cover cb.
No point fixing the defense if you screw up the midfield.

We need an injury replacement for Boogs definitely.

Or is Johnny K still playing for us? I remember him being about Cowburns level. Which is marginally better than Jackson.

[StannyCFCJET]

Don’t think that was the problem.

He isnt doing anything with the ball to warrant more chances

[MonkeyKplunk]

#patoout

#nogoldeveragain

[StannyCFCJET]

#patoout

#nogoldeveragain

Its ok cause this isnt the proper gold anyway

[hawk]

We gave up after 2 goals. Pathetic.

No. We had no idea from minute 1. A game didnt even start. All them.

City has 3pts next week

[StannyCFCJET]

We gave up after 2 goals. Pathetic.

I want to disagree but I can't

[leftrightout]

It wasn't great butt i dont think we should read much into it given the unavailable players.

Two things that need to happen..
Roy... with no Nabbout we have missed him badly in the last two weeks
Jackson... can't start. We won't win the comp with him. Either kanta or sign someone. Spira was mentioned, how serious are we?

[Jetmaster]

FMD...the sky is falling again after one game.

Just remember this time last year.

[rhysd]

It wasn't great butt i dont think we should read much into it given the unavailable players.

Two things that need to happen..
Roy... with no Nabbout we have missed him badly in the last two weeks
Jackson... can't start. We won't win the comp with him. Either kanta or sign someone. Spira was mentioned, how serious are we?

Absolutely- the Sydney game at home was defining in many ways.

Vargas and pato will be good for the run in their legs. Adelaide away is always a tough fixture.

Last night we had the equivalent of Sydney missing Bobo, ninkovic, buijs and Adrian.

Puts a lot of things in perspective

[Couscous]

Carn the Mariners.

[hawk]

how serious are we?

Not much or we would have replaced boogs. And for those that think we gave up after 2 need to watch the first 15 again

[belchardo]

FMD...the sky is falling again after one game.

Just remember this time last year.

agree to a large extent, but that is two pretty poor performances in a row.

[halo se7en]

FMD...the sky is falling again after one game.

Just remember this time last year.

Around this time last year we were in finals contention then suddenly went to pieces for the final 6? games. We’re not going to collapse but it does concern me that both Nabbout & Boogaard are gone, both contributing a shitload all season. We’re also putting a lot of faith in a guy who hasn’t played for 20+ rounds, plus McGree who is still settling, Rodriguez who for me is still an unknown, Champness who has gone off the boil since the first half of the season and Roy, who has missed more games than he’s played. Merrick has a hell of a task trying to get the chemistry back that seems to change drastically week to week. Next week we have Dimi & Roy back but no Hoff so the team will look vastly different again.

I already think Merrick should win coach of the year, but if he can lift us back up considering all the shit we’ve had to deal with, we might need to build a statue.

[redwah]

So are people still calling for the pato, Ronny, Dimi and Roy front 4? Personally I think it will be way to slow with ball movement...sure they’ll string heaps together and it will look pretty at times but I hope Roy is on song because he’ll need to take every chance he might get.

For all of the hoffs failings he is a pest to defence when forward and at the moment we have able coverage at the wide defenders spot. We needed more product up from....I didn’t even hear elseys name once and regan is a red waiting to happen when someone like Vargas gets at him. Never mind the defensive issues last night...the front 4 turned it over to much, the midfield were puss and we thought were playing in red....move on to next week

[Mark325]

from what I saw last night
Jackson can't be our CB going forward
Ugar and Kanta have lost some of that chemistry they had earlier in the season, not sure what's happened with that but they aren't working together the same way. Maybe put Mcgree in the midfield and see how that plays out
Mcgree isn't a winger, he's a good player but with a full strength team I'll be looking forward to him coming on more centrally
Champness is still a young player, a good young player but right now that's all he is. He's done well considering he was thrust into a major role very early on, but he's not a starting XI footballer and definitely not a striker. I know he's there through circumstance but still
We need hoff in an attacking role, and not at fullback. against tired legs he is exactly the type of **** you need to hassle the defence and pull some scrappy goals

[Mark325]

going into the grand finals series, and assuming no replacements are signed for boogs, I'd be looking at something like:

Roy
Pato - Vargas - Dimi
Brown - Ugar
Vujica - Topor - Kanta - George
Duncan

Bench: Mcgree, Hoff, Champness, Cowburn, Moss

If Vujica isn't up to the task, a possible option would be to put George on the left, and put one of Johnny K or Cowburn out at right back, whichever one isn't used takes up the bench spot

[380]

Absolutely- the Sydney game at home was defining in many ways.

Vargas and pato will be good for the run in their legs. Adelaide away is always a tough fixture.

Last night we had the equivalent of Sydney missing Bobo, ninkovic, buijs and Adrian.

Puts a lot of things in perspective

This

[The Dunster]

going into the grand finals series, and assuming no replacements are signed for boogs, I'd be looking at something like:

Roy
Pato - Vargas - Dimi
Brown - Ugar
Vujica - Topor - Kanta - George
Duncan

Bench: Mcgree, Hoff, Champness, Cowburn, Moss

If Vujica isn't up to the task, a possible option would be to put George on the left, and put one of Johnny K or Cowburn out at right back, whichever one isn't used takes up the bench spot

Why would you put Hoff on the bench ? His form is as good or better than most in the league let alone our squad.

[Mark325]

Why would you put Hoff on the bench ? His form is as good or better than most in the league let alone our squad.

my thought for it is, later on in the game I would rather Hoff bothering the defence then say Pato.

Also, in a grand final there is always the chance of extra time, Pato wouldn't put in the hard yards where that to happen that Hoff would

[StannyCFCJET]

my thought for it is, later on in the game I would rather Hoff bothering the defence then say Pato.

Also, in a grand final there is always the chance of extra time, Pato wouldn't put in the hard yards where that to happen that Hoff would

Pato doesnt put in the hard yards all game

[Jetmaster]

Still seeing panic above...all will settle in the next few weeks. Kanta and Ugar havent played together much lately. Ugar had a rare shocker...that will he fine in a week or two.
Roy should now be one hitout away...Dimi should be back...Ronny and Pato will be ok with a couple of games.
Jackson....well he is it like it or not.
One thing Ernie wont do is make a raft of changes....when the finals roll up the only playet not available will be Nabbout.
Will we win it? No....due to lack of finals experience...that is all.

[The Dunster]

Pato doesnt put in the hard yards all game

This.

[hawk]

Pato doesnt put in the hard yards all game

Vargas pulls out of challenges as well.

Maybe they've given up, accepted 2nd and do nothing silly and be injury free for finals.

does Hoffs red reset his yellows?

[Mark325]

Still seeing panic above...all will settle in the next few weeks. Kanta and Ugar havent played together much lately. Ugar had a rare shocker...that will he fine in a week or two.
Roy should now be one hitout away...Dimi should be back...Ronny and Pato will be ok with a couple of games.
Jackson....well he is it like it or not.
One thing Ernie wont do is make a raft of changes....when the finals roll up the only playet not available will be Nabbout.
Will we win it? No....due to lack of finals experience...that is all.

A lotta my re-shuffling I would like to see happen primarily comes from Jackson not being a logically option. I know this was his first start in a long time, but he doesn't feel up to snuff, and even if Boogs is ready to go by finals I don't know if it's worth the risk

[Jetmaster]

So who do you put there....not Kanta who needs to stay with Ugar in mids.

[StannyCFCJET]

Kanta is a terrible CB stop suggesting this crazy idea

[Mark325]

Kanta is a terrible CB stop suggesting this crazy idea

So I’d Jackson

[hawk]

Still seeing panic above...all will settle in the next few weeks. Kanta and Ugar havent played together much lately. Ugar had a rare shocker...that will he fine in a week or two.
Roy should now be one hitout away...Dimi should be back...Ronny and Pato will be ok with a couple of games.
Jackson....well he is it like it or not.
.

Panic is more like common sense lol

As for Jacko, you wont like the result. Vargo & Pato have the smartz but lack the steele.

[leftrightout]

Kanta is a terrible CB stop suggesting this crazy idea

That and why would you put a prolific goal scorer at CB... hahaha

[StannyCFCJET]

So I’d Jackson

Jackson isn't a walking red card

[Frodo]

No panic from me.

Vargas was obviously under done fitness wise and didn't have a great impact. He's a better player than Brown, I just thought that Brown suited the game better this week and should have started.

Missing Nabbout and Roy was huge, we had no presence up top. Champness is still a good young player, just didn't have a great evening. Roy up top adds much more than just goals.

Uga had a bad game, he's still our best midfielder.

As for Jackson. He seems to be lacking awareness as he's still young. The main issue I see is the fact that he doesn't seem a good fit for Topor. Which is the fault of Topor as much as Jackson. I would love the club to find an injury replacement for Boogs before the finals if possible.

[Alton]

No panic from me.

Vargas was obviously under done fitness wise and didn't have a great impact. He's a better player than Brown, I just thought that Brown suited the game better this week and should have started.

Missing Nabbout and Roy was huge, we had no presence up top. Champness is still a good young player, just didn't have a great evening. Roy up top adds much more than just goals.

Uga had a bad game, he's still our best midfielder.

As for Jackson. He seems to be lacking awareness as he's still young. The main issue I see is the fact that he doesn't seem a good fit for Topor. Which is the fault of Topor as much as Jackson. I would love the club to find an injury replacement for Boogs before the finals if possible.
FC or Victory would've been on to an injury replacement ASAP, Jackson can't defend on the right

[Jeterpool]

does Hoffs red reset his yellows?

No, it counts just as a yellow. He remains on 3 yellows but needs to get to 8 before another week off.

Actually, by my count Georgievski is out next week due that being his 8th yellow card.

[Frodo]

No, it counts just as a yellow. He remains on 3 yellows but needs to get to 8 before another week off.

Actually, by my count Georgievski is out next week due that being his 8th yellow card.

I thought I heard them say during the game that it was his 7th. Not that i'd trust them over you, just hoping we aren't miss both defenders for the same game.

[Jeterpool]

I thought I heard them say during the game that it was his 7th. Not that i'd trust them over you, just hoping we aren't miss both defenders for the same game.

Just investigated and they're right. I had out a yellow card against him in Rd 20 that was actually against Wayne Brown.