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Jeterpool
03-04-2018, 03:02 PM
A-League 2017/18 Round 26 Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 38 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 8, Glory Wins - 22, Drawn - 8


In Newcastle – 19 matches.
Jets Wins - 5, Glory Wins - 10, Drawn - 4
In Perth - 19 matches
Jets Wins - 3, Glory Wins - 12, Drawn - 4

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9272
Average Away A-League Crowd - 8879

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 43, Glory - 74
In Newcastle -
Jets – 23, Glory - 36

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 13, Glory - 23

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 82 (77 yellow, 5 red), Glory 60 (55 yellow, 5 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - WWWLL (9 point from last 15)
Glory - WDWWL (10 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Andrew Nabbout (10)
Glory – Andy Keogh, Diego Castro, Adam Taggart (6)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (Koutroumbis 88', Walker 90+2' o.g) - Perth Glory 1 (Knowles 20') at nib Stadium, A-League, Round 10, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 10

Newcastle JetsPerth Glory
Glen MossLiam Reddy
Jason HoffmanJeremy Walker
Nigel BoogaardShane Lowry
Nikolai Topor-StanleyAlex Grant
Ivan VujicaJoseph Mills
Steven UgarkovicBrandon Wilson
Ben KantarovskiXavi Torres
Dimitri PetratosJacob Italiano
Joe ChampnessChris Harold
Andrew NabboutMitch Nichols
Wayne BrownJoseph Knowles



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Haliti 13’, Brockie 54’, Petrovski 68’Penalty, Petrovski 69’) – Glory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Midweek Round 1, Season 2010/11, 10/02/2011.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 (Trifunovic 14’) – Glory 6 (Harold 24', Castro 45', Mullen 48' o.g., Harold 54', Grant 74', Castro 88'), Round 16, Season 2015/16 at Hunter Stadium, 24/01/2016.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (6)
Glory - Jamie Harnwell (7)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Jack Duncan16160014400000
3Jason Hoffman21192716575131
4Nigel Boogaard21210118821020
5Ben Kantarovski20182416345050
6Steven Ugarkovic25250422031310
7Dimitri Petratos23230520529820
8Ronald Vargas65153620100
9Roy O'Donovan1211139077231
10Wayne Brown1911889480040
11Patricio Rodriguez96346001300
12Mario Shabow7070900010
13Ivan Vujica20182216100260
15Andrew Nabbout222208190210740
16Nick Cowburn91812180000
17Daniel Georgievski17170413621280
18John Koutroumbis105524632020
19Kosta Petratos4040270000
20Glen Moss99008100000
22Lachlan Jackson104614230000
23Devante Clut5141590000
24Joe Champness2313101111464110
27Riley McGree85315261000
32Angus Thurgate6060930000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley25250022501150



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 2 matches
Ernie Merrick - 1 win, Ken Lowe - 0 wins, 1 draw

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 2 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 0 losses = 50% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (3 wins, 6 drawn and 7 losses = 19% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 4 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)

Perth Glory Coach Record – Ken Lowe 69% win ratio (9 wins, 2 drawn, 2 losses)



TALKING POINTS:

General

Last week was the first time all seaosn the Jets have lost consecutive games.
It was also the first time this season they have been kept scoreless.
Newcastle last defeated Perth at home on November 5th, 2011, through a Jeremy Brockie 2-minute double. They are winless against Glory at home in their last 9.



Players

Daniel Georgievski will miss the game through suspension after receiving his 8th booking of the season.
Adam Taggart has scored in his last 2 appearances in Newcastle.

Jeterpool
03-04-2018, 03:03 PM
Just a few points this week, sorry everyone. Won't have time to get anything else out this week. Hopefully do better for the derby.

Cunning stunts
03-04-2018, 03:10 PM
line up i would like to see

Duncan

Jackson
Toppa
Kanta
Hoffman

MCgree/Brown
Urg


Dimi
VArgas
Mcgree/pato

roy

boz-monaut
03-04-2018, 03:13 PM
loose etc

season already over, may as well give up now

StannyCFCJET
03-04-2018, 03:27 PM
line up i would like to see

Duncan

Jackson
Toppa
Kanta
Hoffman

MCgree/Brown
Urg


Dimi
VArgas
Mcgree/pato

roy

With your lineup there is no width

plague
03-04-2018, 03:57 PM
Will be good to see Taggart put a couple more past us. Oh wait, I'm not going. Will watch on the telly I promise.

Cunning stunts
03-04-2018, 04:14 PM
With your lineup there is no width

Maybe start Joey instead of Mcgree/Pato but there isnt much more options with what we have in my opinion

StannyCFCJET
03-04-2018, 04:50 PM
Maybe start Joey instead of Mcgree/Pato but there isnt much more options with what we have in my opinion

Dimi Pato Mcgree and Vargas are all number 10s or middle players IMO

belchardo
03-04-2018, 06:26 PM
wouldn't mind if ernie gave dimi a week off (or start him from the bench), he's looking tired, and want to see him rip against the coasties.

as stupid as this sounds, i do think this is a really crucial game for us. we need to get a bit of the belief back from earlier this season.

rhysd
03-04-2018, 06:48 PM
wouldn't mind if ernie gave dimi a week off (or start him from the bench), he's looking tired, and want to see him rip against the coasties.

as stupid as this sounds, i do think this is a really crucial game for us. we need to get a bit of the belief back from earlier this season.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment I doubt that would have the desired reaction within the squad. He has been a standout performer all season, the game to start him from the bench would have been tha last game.

If we are serious, this is the game we need to win to get the belief back.

Mark325
03-04-2018, 08:38 PM
Very interesting going forward now

I think we may keep Kanta at the backs and play Brown in the mids this game

I actually think, as much as it was all the talk after his signing that Pato and Vargas shouldn’t come on the pitch at the same time. Might be best to use one of them off the bench to replace the other.

Keep Vujica on the pitch, got turned inside out by Arzani but so did everyone, play him and hoff on both sides, and against the coast put hoff on the wing

Grishie
03-04-2018, 08:49 PM
Maybe start Joey instead of Mcgree/Pato but there isnt much more options with what we have in my opinion

That kind of gold is wasted on some people...

Jetmaster
03-04-2018, 09:38 PM
Wish the Member was around to remind us the toilet seat is ours.

plague
03-04-2018, 10:03 PM
Wish the Member was around to remind us the toilet seat is ours.

I was expecting him to pop out of the cave last sunday but seems His return might take a bit longer.

turbojetfireV8
03-04-2018, 10:07 PM
having the Hoff back should give us more of a target down the wing to spread it a bit, would still like to see Johnny K given a go at the back with Kanta resuming his midfield provider duties, was pretty obvious we weren't getting the penetration we should have been getting without Kanta where he should be

seriously hoping Roy sees more of the ball this week, the closest he got to the ball last match was when he was trying to steal it himself from their keeper, Ernie's still got two games to play with till show time so still time to give JK a go... :chant:

hawk
03-04-2018, 10:53 PM
Ernie's already ticked his to do list this year, no wonder he's not phased at the end of year fails.

Heard he's booked his OS holidays before the GF.

Perth will make us look like gravy...again

StannyCFCJET
03-04-2018, 11:01 PM
If Kanta is our Boogs replacement going forward then Jackson will be asking for a release post season i reckon.

Is Johnny k signed for next season??

Jeterpool
04-04-2018, 06:03 AM
Yes.

Only off contract players are Kosta P, Boogs, Vargas and Pato.

McGree will return to Brugge

MonkeyKplunk
04-04-2018, 08:11 AM
Lineup IMO

Duncan

Vujica
Toppa
Jackson
Hoffman

Kanta
Urg


Dimi
Vargas
Mcgree

Roy

StannyCFCJET
04-04-2018, 10:17 AM
Lineup IMO

Duncan

Vujica
Toppa
Jackson
Hoffman

Kanta
Urg


Dimi
Vargas
Mcgree

Roy

Still little width Dimi and Mcgree will come inside to often and clog up vargas'space

Mark325
04-04-2018, 12:30 PM
Yes.

Only off contract players are Kosta P, Boogs, Vargas and Pato.

McGree will return to Brugge

Yea I can see us keeping Kosta, Boogs and one of Vargas or Pato but not both. I want Mcgree to stay but don't see it as likely

leftrightout
04-04-2018, 01:50 PM
Still little width Dimi and Mcgree will come inside to often and clog up vargas'space

Maybe Ernie can instruct them to stay wider? Practice at training etc. You know, those kind of coachy things

StannyCFCJET
04-04-2018, 02:51 PM
Maybe Ernie can instruct them to stay wider? Practice at training etc. You know, those kind of coachy things

I think he likes them coming in

leftrightout
04-04-2018, 03:26 PM
I think he likes them coming in

If thats the case, why does it matter if it is Dimi and McGree who play there?
Your issue is more with Ernie than the players who drift in?

380
04-04-2018, 03:58 PM
If thats the case, why does it matter if it is Dimi and McGree who play there?
Your issue is more with Ernie than the players who drift in?

Yep yep. Not long ago a player or two ( front third players mind you ) were absconded for there defensive efforts or lack of. Those who watched the A League hour a few weeks ago when Ernie was on was asked directly by Peacock about this very issue and he made it very clear players were from a defensive perspective given there positions on the park were doing exactly what was asked of them.

belchardo
06-04-2018, 09:20 AM
woo! game day!

Jeterpool
06-04-2018, 09:47 AM
I reckon Perth are going to come at us tonight. Could be an entertaining game.

If we don't lineup with pace, we will struggle.

StannyCFCJET
06-04-2018, 07:47 PM
Intetesting Line up

Mark325
06-04-2018, 07:57 PM
Intetesting Line up

Kanta still at cb and cowburn still in mids makes me think this is the lineup going forward, might change slightly next week with georgevski back tho

belchardo
06-04-2018, 08:55 PM
will be really keen to see how cowburn goes at DM.

Hunter403
06-04-2018, 09:00 PM
Really PO. Can't be there ☹

boz-monaut
06-04-2018, 09:07 PM
less than 10 minutes to throw the game away

much faster than usual

belchardo
06-04-2018, 09:08 PM
i know technically it's a pen, but piss off is that a pen.

boz-monaut
06-04-2018, 09:21 PM
he kicked the guys legs out, it was careless, stupid and unprofessional

boz-monaut
06-04-2018, 09:22 PM
anyone else get the feeling we won't score for the rest of the season?

boz-monaut
06-04-2018, 09:24 PM
yay, good for Taggart

goddamn we're back to being utter garbage

belchardo
06-04-2018, 09:26 PM
he kicked the guys legs out, it was careless, stupid and unprofessional

i agree it's a pen, but i felt that he had no idea he was even there. that's the frustrating bit.

belchardo
06-04-2018, 09:27 PM
anyone else get the feeling we won't score for the rest of the season?

are you including OGs?

sorefootballer
06-04-2018, 09:28 PM
Im really sad.
I still think we are a chance to atleast challenge in the semi....im just utterly disappointed with the team right now

The Hacker
06-04-2018, 09:34 PM
Did I miss where Mark Jones is back coaching the team. This tripe is what we dished up last year

Retro Jet
06-04-2018, 09:36 PM
Not that I care but PestsInSh!tney Wankerers &
BrisVegas Indonesians probably hating on us right now :rof:

The Dunster
06-04-2018, 09:37 PM
We have too many good players cancelling each other out. We had the balance right but with Nabbout gone, no Boogs, and a few unfit / out of form players forced into the team I'd say our season will end in the semi final.

halo se7en
06-04-2018, 09:51 PM
They should kick us out early to save the embarrassment. This version of our team has NFI what they’re doing.

belchardo
06-04-2018, 09:55 PM
champness on for mcgree please ernie.

i won't mind when mcgree goes back to belgium.

belchardo
06-04-2018, 09:59 PM
and looking for positives, the best moment so far for us was vuj getting wide and forward to cross into the centre. we look much better coming from way wide.

The Dunster
06-04-2018, 10:01 PM
Vargas should get hooked. Blokes finished and is not marquee standard anymore.

The Dunster
06-04-2018, 10:06 PM
Drillbits on 4 Perf. No excuses for not scoring now

The Dunster
06-04-2018, 10:11 PM
Mcgree is ****ed. Get him off ffs

The Dunster
06-04-2018, 10:15 PM
Perth are shit. Still working on a word to describe how bad we are.

boz-monaut
06-04-2018, 10:16 PM
we can't score against Liam Reddy

how did it come to this?

belchardo
06-04-2018, 10:20 PM
our shape in midfield and defence is terrible. there basically is none.

sorefootballer
06-04-2018, 10:25 PM
Confidence is shot in more than half the players. How does ernie repair this wreck? I get that it is a nothing game.....but 4 games now and we have been well below par

The Dunster
06-04-2018, 10:29 PM
We look better without Cowburn. Mcgree does at least

belchardo
06-04-2018, 10:30 PM
can't make this shit up. $1.5b for stadiums in sydney and our ****ing lights don't even work properly.

boz-monaut
06-04-2018, 10:32 PM
now the crowd is doing that phone light thing

that's it, I'm out

The Dunster
06-04-2018, 10:36 PM
Kenny Lowe looks like a Cat Burglar.

evolution
06-04-2018, 10:48 PM
1558

belchardo
06-04-2018, 10:55 PM
we can't put that team out again.

no mcgree, push hoffman forward, georgevski back in, maybe even champness for vargas. and kanta back into midfield, perhaps cowburn into CM (leaving champness out in that case).

hawk
06-04-2018, 11:04 PM
Wasnt as bad as last week. How aids are refs against us. Are we the only club thay doesnt fall down when touched

halo se7en
06-04-2018, 11:14 PM
now the crowd is doing that phone light thing

that's it, I'm out

best part of the night tbh

StannyCFCJET
06-04-2018, 11:42 PM
Dimi has to play 10. Bench Vargas or don't play it. Can't afford to carry him anymorr

Retro Jet
06-04-2018, 11:51 PM
now the crowd is doing that phone light thing

that's it, I'm out


best part of the night tbh

Think I might have started that. :blush: I was between Bay 1 n 2 trying to spot my bro up Nth side of top Western stand. Found him when he put his light on...then I did mine so he could see me.
Lights went out 10min later n he texted as a joke "put your light back on lol" Soz Boz. I didn't even know it was a 'thing'.

Actually had a glimmer of hope the game would be abandoned when they went out and we could put the New Jets out another time n piss these Old Jets orf...
Lacklustre performance.

380
06-04-2018, 11:59 PM
Perhaps some thought Beath might do a better job in the dark.

On the upside anybody who was stupid enough to think Chris Beath was some sort of competent official got a reality check.

The Dunster
07-04-2018, 03:05 AM
Take out Vargas
Move Kanta into midfield
Bring in Crazy George
Move Hoff up field
Roll the dice with Jackson
Play Joey instead of McGree.
Use Pato off the bench.

We will win. Not much to fix.

Team has become defensive and Ernie moving Kanta to CB has signalled vulnerability to oppositions. We got where we are being fearless in attack and not giving a **** about leaking a few goals.

We need to think and play that way again.

Experiments failed Ernie. Lets go back to what was working.

Jeterpool
07-04-2018, 08:07 AM
You watched the Jetstream post match video? I said exactly the same.

mic22
07-04-2018, 08:32 AM
Take out Vargas
Move Kanta into midfield
Bring in Crazy George
Move Hoff up field
Roll the dice with Jackson
Play Joey instead of McGree.
Use Pato off the bench.

We will win. Not much to fix.

Team has become defensive and Ernie moving Kanta to CB has signalled vulnerability to oppositions. We got where we are being fearless in attack and not giving a **** about leaking a few goals.

We need to think and play that way again.

Experiments failed Ernie. Lets go back to what was working.

This.
Right now we have NTS throwing long balls at their defenders and Kanta passing to their midfielders. We've seen this before. All of our clearances - fkn all of them!!! - go straight to the opposition, this creates a lot of pressure and frustrates the team.
Vargas is a burden atm: Pato had a positive impact on the game, at least he runs. Sorry for Vargas, but he's not fit and he's still scared: trial games are over, I wouldn't even put him on the bench in the next 2 games. Ernie had to give him a chance and I agree with the experiment, but that's enough thanks.

I don't think we can afford to bring Hoff forward: Vujica is underperforming, we need Geo and Hoff in defence.

The whole tram looked very slow, we were outran in all the areas: we looked like a preseason game - the only explanation could be a heavy load at training in preparation for the finals.

rhysd
07-04-2018, 09:09 AM
This.
Right now we have NTS throwing long balls at their defenders and Kanta passing to their midfielders. We've seen this before. All of our clearances - fkn all of them!!! - go straight to the opposition, this creates a lot of pressure and frustrates the team.
Vargas is a burden atm: Pato had a positive impact on the game, at least he runs. Sorry for Vargas, but he's not fit and he's still scared: trial games are over, I wouldn't even put him on the bench in the next 2 games. Ernie had to give him a chance and I agree with the experiment, but that's enough thanks.

I don't think we can afford to bring Hoff forward: Vujica is underperforming, we need Geo and Hoff in defence.

The whole tram looked very slow, we were outran in all the areas: we looked like a preseason game - the only explanation could be a heavy load at training in preparation for the finals.

This.

I, as much as anyone, wanted to see Vargas back at his pre-injury best but the guy is flat out scared. We played much better when pato came on.

I thought the brown sub was a positive one until he went off again with the same injury. Amateur hour there.

I wanted kanta in the cb position and I still think he has a role there until boogs comes back.

If we can’t fire up in front of what is expected to be a large away crowd next week then we don’t deserve to be playing this finals football.

McGree has talent but lacks a lot of ticker. Already has his head in Europe and think he doesn’t have to work still. Works better centrally and is definitely not giving us much out wide like he should be.

Team for next week..

Duncan/moss
Hoff jackson topor George
Kanta sugar
Joey Dimi pato
Roy

Jetmaster
07-04-2018, 11:26 AM
Team for next week..

Duncan/moss
Hoff jackson topor George
Kanta sugar
Joey Dimi pato
Roy

This is exactly the team I suggested before the City game.

Last game Kanta played mids we lost but he scored twice. The Kanta/Ugar/Dimi trio has been the basis of our success. Moving Kanta to defence has completely unbalanced the side. If he stays there we will lose next week too.

Just give Jackson the less testing warm up v Scum. He was almost MOM against Sydney new year ffs so he is capable.

Only variation I would consider would be to push Hoff up forward right and keep Ivan in.

Bremsstrahlung
07-04-2018, 11:29 AM
As much praise as the CB pairing of Boogs and NTS get, I think a lot of credit goes to Ugar and Kanta for their holding duties. Their consistency and quality of their game this season has helped our defence a lot.
Imo, playing with NTS, Ugar and Kanta in their usual positions means there is only 1 vulnerability (new element). Dropping Kanta back opens up a DM issue and a CB issue.

I agree with the above lineup. Don’t care who plays CB with NTS, just get some in form players on the pitch.

rhysd
07-04-2018, 12:09 PM
Only variation I would consider would be to push Hoff up forward right and keep Ivan in.

Probably a better call, and bring Joey on for the final 20-30

leftrightout
07-04-2018, 12:12 PM
Its simple, team that beat sydney
Roy in for Nabs
Jackson in for Boogs

Jackson may not be great but he isnt that bad and if the rest of the team plays with the intent they have in the past he would be fine.

I thought Pato was good off the bench last night.

Jetmaster
07-04-2018, 03:21 PM
We all agree....bring back Jacko!

https://img.discogs.com/X0RZ17e5v3jnN5FgX5YIxPdP1es=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():qualit y(40)/discogs-images/R-728227-1152700196.jpeg.jpg

mic22
07-04-2018, 10:40 PM
Its simple, team that beat sydney.

In this case, you also get an additional player :D

BP Super Dynamos
07-04-2018, 10:41 PM
We played far too narrow last night. I was a massive fan of Ivan earlier in the year, but he was terrible. Never hit the touch line and Chianese was burning him, both inside and out. McGree looked lost/scared until he moved centrally. Pato and Joey gave us some width and thrust, but all too late. I agree with benching Ronald and playing Dimi at 10, bloke needs to be on the ball as much as possible