17/18 HAL Grand Final | Newcastle Jets v Melbourne Victory | Sat 5th May 2018 750pm

[belchardo]

6 sleeps to go!

[scarfy96]

Tickets purchased am pumped.

[snake]

we will loose

[hawk]

tifo anyone?....balloons, streamers, pinatas, an array of Jets towels?

[Dylan]

Should it be ok getting a ticket on Tuesday in football family presale? Sounds like they haven't left too many for the public. Silly me just booked flights from Christchurch NZ without making sure my mate was able to get the ticket first.

[belchardo]

tifo anyone?....balloons, streamers, pinatas, an array of Jets towels?

i can bring my towel if required.

[belchardo]

Should it be ok getting a ticket on Tuesday in football family presale? Sounds like they haven't left too many for the public. Silly me just booked flights from Christchurch NZ without making sure my mate was able to get the ticket first.

they've just brought the general/football family sale forward to tomorrow. make sure your mate knows cause i reckon they'll all be gone by monday arvo!

[Dylan]

Should I have already received an email with a code for tomorrow?

[The Hacker]

they've just brought the general/football family sale forward to tomorrow. make sure your mate knows cause i reckon they'll all be gone by monday arvo!

Where did you see that mate

[Damo Lovelock]

Should I have already received an email with a code for tomorrow?

If you're a Football Family member, it'll just be your MFN.

[Damo Lovelock]

Where did you see that mate

The Herald is reporting it - https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5369940/20000-tickets-sold-a-league-grand-final-seats-going-fast/?cs=12

[The Hacker]

The Herald is reporting it - https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5369940/20000-tickets-sold-a-league-grand-final-seats-going-fast/?cs=12
Cheers

[hawk]

Wonder where the Victory players might they be staying?

[Hunter403]

got on at 10. Got great tickets on halfway in bay 7, said "yes, I'll have those", clicked the button and .......30 minutes later it timed out and I now have inferior tickets in bay 4.

However, DON"T CARE. I missed the 2008 match and nothing, not even a harem of randy naked women would keep me away.

[plague]

doomed.
no chance.
fold the club.
Middleby OUT.

[halo se7en]

Wonder where the Victory players might they be staying?

Don’t all oppo teams stay at Rydges?

[mic22]

How many tickets am I allowed to buy as a football family member?

[hawk]

How many tickets am I allowed to buy as a football family member?

squillions as long as its 10 at a time.

[halo se7en]

Just tried to buy some more tix on dry hill with a member number. Either there's nothing left, or they've stopped selling until the public can jump on later today.

[Jetmaster]

Yeah mate - second point is it.

Do you have a Football Family number as that will get you straight in at 10am?

[Couscous]

1pm

[Jetmaster]

So, the Knights play on Friday night. No chance of a move, even if the Knights agreed to it, Nein/Fux would say no.

If we are lucky with the weather the very least they could do was to not paint half the ground with their stupid logos and ads that then have to be painted over again.

If they can do that then I have confidence the surface will be Ok.

[Jeterpool]

To anyone getting tickets today

*DON'T REFRESH THE TICKETS TOO OFTEN*

I did this trying to get seats in the area I wanted and the website thought I was a Bot and booted my IP.

Think it'll be a case of get what you can and be grateful

[Bon]

Don’t all oppo teams stay at Rydges?

I've seen Melbourne players at the Novotel before.. And also out the front of Crown..
Maybe we need some sort of jets flying over at 3am, fireworks, etc
Surely you can afford to roll all of that, hawk?

[Jeterpool]

I've seen Melbourne players at the Novotel before.. And also out the front of Crown..
Maybe we need some sort of jets flying over at 3am, fireworks, etc
Surely you can afford to roll all of that, hawk?

If it isn't the Novotel it'll be the Crowne.

[plague]

FFA numbers not working

[samus]

Where can one find a football family code?

A jets final is about the biggest event in my silly life and the thought of missing tickets today makes me poop my pants. Any help?

[mic22]

Don't worry, even with a football family number there are no tickets available atm... looks dodgy

[Jetmaster]

Where can one find a football family code?

A jets final is about the biggest event in my silly life and the thought of missing tickets today makes me poop my pants. Any help?

Too late I think - I got in for a look with my MFN and looks like its all gone already.

[mic22]

Too late I think - I got in for a look with my MFN and looks like its all gone already.

I logged in at 10.00 sharp, no tickets ?!?!
there should have been 10000. Dodgy

[plague]

yeah it didnt say "no tix available' it said codes were not valid.

[Dylan]

Managed to get 1 dry hill, So pumped!!

[mic22]

ffa number doesn't work, you need to register as a football family member

[samus]

oh damn. will have to bank on the 1 pm release. wish me luck!

[Couscous]

Football family members (like me) just got access to buying tickets. I'm in!

[Jetmaster]

yeah it didnt say "no tix available' it said codes were not valid.

I got a "sorry no tix available".

Really, how hard would it have been to do the "same seat" policy again to ensure all members got their seat?

Then just sell the rest to the public. I have a feeling most Football Family tix will go to Melbourne types and companies.

Any stories of members missing out yet?

[mic22]

Football family members (like me) just got access to buying tickets. I'm in!

I must be the lucky one... no ticks available with my MFN

[Bremsstrahlung]

Keeps rejecting my MFN

[mic22]

I got a "sorry no tix available".

Really, how hard would it have been to do the "same seat" policy again to ensure all members got their seat?

Then just sell the rest to the public. I have a feeling most Football Family tix will go to Melbourne types and companies.

Any stories of members missing out yet?

So true...
I'm about to give up. There will be about 5000 who don't even know what football code will be played, but they didn't want to "miss out on a grand final". Bullshit. Well done to whoever allowed this to happen. And I'm not even a member... can't even imagine how it feels to pay for the privilege and then be left out like this.

[Retro Jet]

Keeps rejecting my MFN

Just been through all the options - no tickets available.
Should be a stadium record...which is currently what?

[plague]

yeah only away members tix available now.
interesting to see how things go at 1pm.

[Jetmaster]

Just been through all the options - no tickets available.
Should be a stadium record...which is currently what?

The stadium quotes the "saleable number" as 30,000. I have this feeling the crowd will come in at 29,000 on the day, there will be empty blocks visible and we'll all think "wtf".

[sorefootballer]

Idk the capacity is 33k. I guess saleable 30k then maybe another 3k to ffa corporate numptys

[Jetmaster]

Football Family allocation officially exhausted.

1pm public sales confirmed - good luck guys!

[mic22]

Tickets available on ticketmaster-resale: 400$ each - who would have thought...

[plague]

Yeah look there is no perfect 'system'.
If you only let members buy 1 ticket each instead of looking after friends and family you run the risk of a bunch of scalpers/outsiders getting those anyway.

At least these will go to 'football folk'.
It's also the consequence of 'home' grand finals. Demand is always gonna outstrip supply for us, but do you really wanna go to Olympic stadium in order to give everyone a chance at a ticket?

It is what it is*.





* mind, I'm not going so lack of tix doesn't bother me personally.

[mic22]

Yeah look there is no perfect 'system'.
If you only let members buy 1 ticket each instead of looking after friends and family you run the risk of a bunch of scalpers/outsiders getting those anyway.

At least these will go to 'football folk'.


I know first hand of people who has never been to a Jets game before - and they didn't even know what competition it is - but they knew a member and they soooooo want to be at the grand final with all the family (including little kids that will probably fall asleep before half time).
10 tix per transaction ruined it all.

[sorefootballer]

I don't know why people bring little kids to the game. One family i witnessed left the semi final after 30minutes because "the kids are tired" wtf is that

[Macca]

If it was 1 ticket per member then the same thing would have happened on a larger scale when 20k tickets go on sale open slather at once. Scalpers would be making a killing. I'd personally rather the members get the say in who gets tickets via this method than pot luck (and not be able to sit with friends/family as well).

I understand frustration for those who are big fans and haven't been able to get tickets. But members (and its not exactly an exclusive club, they are absolutely dirt cheap and great value) at the end of the day should get the benefit.
I wonder how many if any members have not been able to get tickets? I hope the club may be able to do something for people in that case.

[mic22]

If it was 1 ticket per member then the same thing would have happened on a larger scale when 20k tickets go on sale open slather at once. Scalpers would be making a killing. I'd personally rather the members get the say in who gets tickets via this method than pot luck (and not be able to sit with friends/family as well).

I understand frustration for those who are big fans and haven't been able to get tickets. But members (and its not exactly an exclusive club, they are absolutely dirt cheap and great value) at the end of the day should get the benefit.
I wonder how many if any members have not been able to get tickets? I hope the club may be able to do something for people in that case.

I get your point, but 10 tix per transaction is nonsense. Designed for scalpers.

[380]

I hate to play the devils advocate here but any member wanting a ticket i reckon would have got one.For those who are not members it is always going to be a circus for tickets. I purchased my member tix ( 4 tix in total all for family who are also members ) ) from ticket master and it was at 1.15pm Sunday. I agree totally that 10 tix was way over the top and IMO 4-5 would have been adequate.

The point being , Apart from the member card and scarf and cap priority purchases to the final is also another. The point being, Be a member.

Will put on my flame suit now.

[StannyCFCJET]

So true...
I'm about to give up. There will be about 5000 who don't even know what football code will be played, but they didn't want to "miss out on a grand final". Bullshit. Well done to whoever allowed this to happen. And I'm not even a member... can't even imagine how it feels to pay for the privilege and then be left out like this.

Members shouldve known about the 10am Sunday pre sale and made arrangements

[plague]

I hate to play the devils advocate here but any member wanting a ticket i reckon would have got one.For those who are not members it is always going to be a circus for tickets. I purchased my member tix ( 4 tix in total all for family who are also members ) ) from ticket master and it was at 1.15pm Sunday. I agree totally that 10 tix was way over the top and IMO 4-5 would have been adequate.

The point being , Apart from the member card and scarf and cap priority purchases to the final is also another. The point being, Be a member.

Will put on my flame suit now.

This is far too rational and sensible.
How dare you bring such common sense to the foz.
HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!

[Jetmaster]

And to be fair 9000 members only bought 11500 seats in presale last week. Not overboard.

I bought 8 tix yesterday for myself and 7 other members.

[380]

Members shouldve known about the 10am Sunday pre sale and made arrangements


They did get notification of tix going on sale at 10am Sunday morning. From memory two emails went out, One Friday night with possible scenario's dependent on Sat nights result and Sat night after the result in Sydney. Made mention of 10 am members sale.

[mic22]

Whatever, I'm just dirty cause I can't find a ticket for myself :D
Ready for the 1pm war in 3 minutes!!!

[Bon]

Whatever, I'm just dirty cause I can't find a ticket for myself :D
Ready for the 1pm war in 3 minutes!!!

Good luck!

[joel31]

have tickets come up for anyone?

[mic22]

Brilliant... found a ticket in dry area... didn't even make it to the payment page... f*** ticketmaster

[joel31]

has the linked changed

[hawk]

what is the away code? could help a few

[mic22]

"problem with the order", 4 times... what a f***ed up system!!!

[Grimario]

There are no tickets left. It's sold out.


If you want to go, find the $500 scalper tickets.

[plague]

what is the away code? could help a few

yeah a mate was trying to hook up with a victory member to get his code. not sure if it worked.

[mic22]

Can't believe they sold 10000 tix in 2 minutes...
I had 4 orders denied after payment page.
Scalpers can get f**ed ;)

[The Camel]

Can't believe they sold 10000 tix in 2 minutes...
I had 4 orders denied after payment page.
Scalpers can get f**ed ;)

I could not even get that far. Both with my MFN and general sale

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Capacity is 33,000

Lawrie said they're only selling 31,000

We sold "over" 20,000 in the member pre-sale. They didnt say how many, only OVER 20,000.

My guess would be less than 5,000 tickets left for sale this morning for the 10am Football Family sale and less than 1,000 for General Public sale.

The 1,000 General Public tickets, mostly purchased by bots for re-sale/scalping.

[joel31]

should i risk viagogo or ticketmaster resale?

[Grimario]

should i risk viagogo or ticketmaster resale?

Ticketmaster resale is legit, isn't it? They take a cut of the resale, so can't imagine they would dodgy it. **** viagogo though.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Oh well, missed out also. Had them in cart and was entering details.
Hope it's a great game and a cracking crowd and ill be pissed if I can spot a single spare seat.

[q-money]

ten tickets was frankly ridiculous and should never have gone ahead

[StannyCFCJET]

I know first hand of people who has never been to a Jets game before - and they didn't even know what competition it is - but they knew a member and they soooooo want to be at the grand final with all the family (including little kids that will probably fall asleep before half time).
10 tix per transaction ruined it all.

I hate these people. Leave the GF for actual soccer people and members who go to games all season

[Roundball Enthusiast]

ten tickets was frankly ridiculous and should never have gone ahead

Agreed. I think 2 or 4 at most per Member.

[plague]

I just want the good Member to post a pic on here of him swimming in a bath full of like 3000 tickets.

Would be funny.

[plague]

Council putting on a live site apparently.

Knowing them it should be organised by about mid June.

[Jetmaster]

Council putting on a live site apparently.

Knowing them it should be organised by about mid June.

Bet it will be family friendly and alcohol free and Big Dog will send them home right on fulltime.

The scalping vermin have closed in...

1570

25 seats in Bay 6 Row E (middle Eastern) available in one block - how is this even possible?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Bet it will be family friendly and alcohol free and Big Dog will send them home right on fulltime.

The scalping vermin have closed in...

1570

25 seats in Bay 6 Row E (middle Eastern) available in one block - how is this even possible?


Thats seat 25, not 25 seats. Its 1 ticket.

[Jetmaster]

Thats seat 25, not 25 seats. Its 1 ticket.

My bad...still that's a 1000% markup!

[mic22]

1.200 $ now... this shouldn't be legal

Ticketmaster has all the interest in allowing this though: if they get a share in the resale, they can pretend it's sold out and then slowly release tickets if need so.

[plague]

Something is only 'worth' what someone is willing to pay for it.

[plague]

Also: is this game live on the TV channel broke people watch?

[joel31]

Forked out $250 for a ticket but didn't want to miss another grand final after deciding (or at least my parents deciding) to watch the one 10 years ago on tv

[Macca]

Yeah. Whole final series has been live on free to air. Not that you'd know. I only realised cause I saw a random facebook sponsored ad in my feed that said it. Most of the prematch releases from clubs / the league haven't mentioned, only said Fox.

[Jetmaster]

Just watching Phil Moss on Fuxsports. Smurfs reckon the finals format needs changing so the team finishing first gets a second chance.
He did say we would be Champions though.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Just watching Phil Moss on Fuxsports. Smurfs reckon the finals format needs changing so the team finishing first gets a second chance.
He did say we would be Champions though.

Well, you see... We can't have Sydney not making the GF. If that happens, we need to "fix" something that isn't broken to make sure they get in it.

Because, you know. Their 17,000 turn out to the Semi final means so much to the league.

[plague]

Ok ok ok.
Lads (and or assorted ladies).
Let's not do this.
This week is about the Jets and Victory.

Just ignore the screaming child in the corner. If you give it attention it will know next time to scream even louder.

Enjoy the week.

[Grimario]

Ok ok ok.
Lads (and or assorted ladies).
Let's not do this.
This week is about the Jets and Victory.

Just ignore the screaming child in the corner. If you give it attention it will know next time to scream even louder.

Enjoy the week.

Sydney is basically Nelly Yoa in all of this. Completely irrelevant but stamping their feet and demanding attention. If you give it attention, it becomes relevant.

[Jetmaster]

Ok ok ok.
Lads (and or assorted ladies).
Let's not do this.
This week is about the Jets and Victory.

Just ignore the screaming child in the corner. If you give it attention it will know next time to scream even louder.

Enjoy the week.

Fair enuff.....but love a little burn. Just give Adrian and Arzani their medals tonight and we can move on.

[mic22]

Ok ok ok.
Lads (and or assorted ladies).
Let's not do this.
This week is about the Jets and Victory.

Just ignore the screaming child in the corner. If you give it attention it will know next time to scream even louder.

Enjoy the week.

That's me atm: I'm so dirty at Ticketb*stard, FFA, Jets and what not for the ticket debacle.
I'll need to find a way to sneak in Saturday night... disguised as a ref meybe? (No one will notice the difference if I just run around and whistle randomly :D )

[plague]

That's me atm: I'm so dirty at Ticketb*stard, FFA, Jets and what not for the ticket debacle.
I'll need to find a way to sneak in Saturday night... disguised as a ref meybe? (No one will notice the difference if I just run around and whistle randomly :D )

Yeah look if you wanna hold your nerve til late Saturday arvo I'd bet you'll pick up a reasonably priced ticket. All these people buying 10 tix a hit with grand plans to pay off their houses may just give you a deal if they couldn't offload them all.

[mic22]

Yeah look if you wanna hold your nerve til late Saturday arvo I'd bet you'll pick up a reasonably priced ticket. All these people buying 10 tix a hit with grand plans to pay off their houses may just give you a deal if they couldn't offload them all.

I was thinking the same... by that time I'll be more than happy to offer 20 bucks, with a smile on my face :D

[hawk]

If there is one bit of moisture in the air some others will sh1t their pants and want to sell also

[The Dunster]

The after party will be better than the game. Much like it is with all grand finals. Hence, anyone that can't get tickets should probably look to go where the games being screened and enjoy it that way. You will already have a $100 plus start on the beer because you didn't have to purchase a ticket.

[The Dunster]

If there is one bit of moisture in the air some others will sh1t their pants and want to sell also

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9283328-3x2-940x627.jpg

[sorefootballer]

Wise words

[StannyCFCJET]

https://www.facebook.com/NewcastleJetsFans/photos/a.602792733112869.1073741826.423430477715763/1757532314305566/?type=3&theater

Pre game wests they've given Jets fans the star room and are going to show the 2008 GF

[furns]

That's me atm: I'm so dirty at Ticketb*stard, FFA, Jets and what not for the ticket debacle.
I'll need to find a way to sneak in Saturday night... disguised as a ref meybe? (No one will notice the difference if I just run around and whistle randomly :D )I've been suggesting to ppl to go to the knights game on Friday night and hide in the toilets :grin:

[hawk]

https://www.facebook.com/NewcastleJetsFans/photos/a.602792733112869.1073741826.423430477715763/1757532314305566/?type=3&theater

Pre game wests they've given Jets fans the star room and are going to show the 2008 GF

Hang on, how many can the starlight room hold?

Are there any tickets left? :shock::blush:

[StannyCFCJET]

Hang on, how many can the starlight room hold?

Are there any tickets left? :shock::blush:

Its a just rock up thing

[The Dunster]

Can't decide if I will watch the game from SD's pool


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/5b/69/1e5b694377d10f11ab6465069c909fee.jpg

Or Hawks Private Jet

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/nintchdbpict000359020975.jpg?strip=all&w=960

[leftrightout]

I just don't get the stories i am hearing about members missing out on tickets.
It was clear that tickets went on sale to members at 10am Sunday. It was incredibly easy securing tickets for the first hour or so of that sale.

General public, i understand the anger towards it, 10 tickets is excessive. I suppose next year people will contemplate becoming a member? If it drives membership numbers up then it isn't such a bad move!

[MonkeyKplunk]

I just don't get the stories i am hearing about members missing out on tickets.
It was clear that tickets went on sale to members at 10am Sunday. It was incredibly easy securing tickets for the first hour or so of that sale.

General public, i understand the anger towards it, 10 tickets is excessive. I suppose next year people will contemplate becoming a member? If it drives membership numbers up then it isn't such a bad move!

I had a shit of a time. Turned out it was because the first PC I grabbed was the missus work laptop and it only had IE on it and the shite program doesn't even recognise cookies properly any more.
So devastated because I had Bay 2, Row B at one point. Now we're in Bay 60 so at least I can watch you mad pricks across the field, just not be part of it all.

[Jeterpool]

I had a shit of a time. Turned out it was because the first PC I grabbed was the missus work laptop and it only had IE on it and the shite program doesn't even recognise cookies properly any more.
So devastated because I had Bay 2, Row B at one point. Now we're in Bay 60 so at least I can watch you mad pricks across the field, just not be part of it all.

I'm in Bay 60 as well mate. You get a reasonable view from there

[halo se7en]

Anyone else still in disbelief that this thread even exists?

[Grimario]

Anyone else still in disbelief that this thread even exists?

It's lunacy, isn't it? Wooden spoon, rudderless. 1-1-1 record against first place, into the GF. At home.


LUNACY.

[halo se7en]

It's lunacy, isn't it? Wooden spoon, rudderless. 1-1-1 record against first place, into the GF. At home.


LUNACY.

It all seemed to happen really quick too. I thought the wheels had fallen off with the 3 losses and thought it was a bridge too far to Ernie to resurrect us again. In the blink of an eye, we steamroll the scum, come from behind to beat City and here we are hosting the damn final :rof:

[Grimario]

It all seemed to happen really quick too. I thought the wheels had fallen off with the 3 losses and thought it was a bridge too far to Ernie to resurrect us again. In the blink of an eye, we steamroll the scum, come from behind to beat City and here we are hosting the damn final :rof:

Everyone laughed at Lee saying he wanted to be in CL within 3 seasons.

[MonkeyKplunk]

It's lunacy, isn't it? Wooden spoon, rudderless. 1-1-1 record against first place, into the GF. At home.


LUNACY.

And in the 10th year since the initial win.
It's like some kind of WWE heel-hero turn dream

[MonkeyKplunk]

I'm in Bay 60 as well mate. You get a reasonable view from there

I'm not complaining at all, especially when the site kept trying to tell me East Bay 12 was the best seats lol

[MonkeyKplunk]

Jeter,
Got any stats for the fixture for us? :)

[Jeterpool]

Jeter,
Got any stats for the fixture for us? :)

I do mate. Trying to find some good ones in between work, podcasts and regular requests from local media ha ha

Hopefully something out today

[Wilso8948]

I do mate. Trying to find some good ones in between work, podcasts and regular requests from local media ha ha

Hopefully something out today

1 GF. 1 Win. 100% win ratio. All you need to know really.

[The Hacker]

Everyone laughed at Lee saying he wanted to be in CL within 3 seasons.

Everyone is throwing love to Ernie and Laurie but a shit load should go to Mr Lee. He had a plan and stuck to it and made the resources available and now the big dance is in our backyard

[halo se7en]

Everyone is throwing love to Ernie and Laurie but a shit load should go to Mr Lee. He had a plan and stuck to it and made the resources available and now the big dance is in our backyard

And all without hearing a peep from him.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Gillett to referee the Grand Final.

[StannyCFCJET]

Gillett to referee the Grand Final.

Could've been worse

[Macca]

Everyone is throwing love to Ernie and Laurie but a shit load should go to Mr Lee. He had a plan and stuck to it and made the resources available and now the big dance is in our backyard

Great point. He copped some flak last season when many were suspect of how serious he was going to take the ownership. Full credit must go to him in how he has approached this season - appointing the right staff, giving them authority to make decisions and giving them the financial backing; providing funds to sign Vargas as a marquee (moot point, but had potential to be one of the finest players we've seen had he not been injured); signing an injury replacement marquee player when he did get injured (not sure if injury insurance is common or not but that proved very shrewd if not); bringing in McGree as another injury replacement who has been a huge part of our last third of the season.

This on top of things such as the scholarship program funding and opportunities in Portugal for the youth.

Ledge

[Jeterpool]

Last one for the year. Thanks again for reading them




A-League 2017/18 GRAND FINAL Newcastle Jets v Melbourne Victory

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 39 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 16, Victory Wins - 14, Drawn - 9


In Newcastle – 19 matches.
Jets Wins - 10, Victory Wins - 3, Drawn - 6
In Melbourne - 20 matches
Jets Wins - 6, Victory Wins - 11, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 10231
Average Away A-League Crowd - 17792

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 54, Victory - 54
In Newcastle -
Jets – 33, Victory - 20

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 19, Victory - 17

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 76 (71 yellow, 5 red), Victory 69 (65 yellow, 4 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - LLLWW (6 point from last 15)
Victory - WWLWW (12 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Andrew Nabbout, Dimitri Petratos (10)
Victory – Besart Berisha (14)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (Boogaard 31', McGree 70') - Melbourne Victory 0 at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 19, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 19

Newcastle JetsMelbourne Victory
Jack DuncanLawrence Thomas
Jason HoffmanMatias Sanchez
Nigel BoogaardJames Donachie
Nikolai Topor-StanleyRhys Williams
Lachlan JacksonLeigh Broxham
Steven UgarkovicCarl Valeri
Ben KantarovskiTerry Antonis
Dimitri PetratosJames Troisi
Patricio RodriguezChristian Theoharous
Andrew NabboutKosta Barbarouses
Roy O'DonovanBesart Berisha



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Bridge 36’, Bridge 48’, Coveny 51’, J Griffiths 73’) – Victory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 21, Season 2006/07, 19/01/2007.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Victory 5 (Hernandez 41’, Thompson 50’, Allsopp 61’, Allsopp 64’, Brebner 90’), Round 3, Season 2008/09 at Telstra Dome, 29/08/2008.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (5)
Victory - Archie Thompson (7)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Jack Duncan19190116480000
3Jason Hoffman24222919236141
4Nigel Boogaard22220119721020
5Ben Kantarovski22202517695050
6Steven Ugarkovic28280424731430
7Dimitri Petratos262605232210940
8Ronald Vargas87174850210
9Roy O'Donovan15141311779241
10Wayne Brown2011999570040
11Patricio Rodriguez116546511400
12Mario Shabow7070900010
13Ivan Vujica21192217000260
15Andrew Nabbout222208190210740
16Nick Cowburn112922760000
17Daniel Georgievski19190415421280
18John Koutroumbis127526432020
19Kosta Petratos4040270000
20Glen Moss109108720000
22Lachlan Jackson114714681000
23Devante Clut5141590000
24Joe Champness2614121212665220
27Riley McGree118317965100
32Angus Thurgate7070960000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley28280025201150



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 3 matches
Ernie Merrick - 2 wins, Kevin Muscat - 1 win, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (10 wins, 2 drawn and 4 losses = 63% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 wins, 2 drawn, 3 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans – No Matches
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 loss = 0% win ratio)

Melbourne Victory Coach Record – Kevin Muscat 38% win ratio (6 wins, 5 drawn, 5 losses)



TALKING POINTS:

General

The Jets finals record (W-D-L) is 6-1-5.
Newcastle have won their last 4 home finals matches.
This is the 6th Grand Final for Melbourne Victory. It's the second for the Jets.



Key Stats from Previous Round

Last week's win was the first time the Jets defeated City this season.
The Jets gained a win from a losing position for the first time since Round 10.
For the 5th time, the Jets came back to win after trailing at half time. It's the second time they've done it against City.
The crowd of 19131 is the 6th biggest Jets home crowd.



Players

Jason Hoffman is the only player who remains from the '08 Grand Final winning team.
Nikolai Topor-Stanley is the only Jets player to have played every minute this season.
Daniel Georgievski will play in his second consecutive Grand Final.
There have been 7 occasions where a Jets player scored at least once against a former club - Dimi Petratos (Roar and Sydney FC), Andrew Nabbout (Melbourne Victory), Daniel Georgievski (Melbourne Victory), Joe Champness (Brisbane Roar) and Jason Hoffman (Melbourne City)
Joel Griffiths is the Jets leading scorer in Grand Finals with 1.



Newcastle Jets

The Jets have been in 5 competitive shootouts in all competitions, winning 2 and losing 3. They lost their last penalty shootout, which was to Perth in the 2015 FFA Cup.
The Jets have defeated all A-League clubs this season.
The attendance record for a Jets game at McDonald Jones stadium is 24338.



Melbourne Victory

Victory have been kept scoreless in 3 of their last 5 visits to Newcastle (3 seasons).
The Victory have defeated the Jets in Newcastle twice since the Jets lifted their only championship.
The last 4 Victory players to score in Newcastle have all had their first name start with B (Berisha, Barbarouses, Ben Khalfallah)




Injuries

Newcastle Jets Ben Kantarovski, Jack Duncan
Melbourne Victory Rhys Williams,



THE REFEREE: – Jarred Gillett

The Jets have a W-D-L record under Gillett of 8-6-12.
He has officiated 26 Jets matches.
He has refereed a Jets v Mariners game on 4 occassions, with each team winning twice.
He has never refereed the Jets in a finals fixture.
His ratio of bookings is roughly 3:2 (Jets to opposition)

[&1gest]

Thanks for all the hard work JP:thumbsup:

[hawk]

Gillett to referee the Grand Final.

Game over.

We do 1 solid challenge its a yellow. They can hit us all day. Youll see.

[Jeterpool]

Thanks for all the hard work JP:thumbsup:

Cheers :)

[Bon]

Joel Griffiths is the Jets leading scorer in Grand Finals with 1.



Love it... :brrr:

[Jeterpool]

Love it... :brrr:

I wondered if anyone would spot that :rof:

By "that" I mean more poor puntuation.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Joel Griffiths is the Jets leading scorer in Grand Finals with 1.

Literally the only stat that matters in any GF to date.

[mic22]

I just don't get the stories i am hearing about members missing out on tickets.
It was clear that tickets went on sale to members at 10am Sunday. It was incredibly easy securing tickets for the first hour or so of that sale.

General public, i understand the anger towards it, 10 tickets is excessive. I suppose next year people will contemplate becoming a member? If it drives membership numbers up then it isn't such a bad move!

There were probably more than 25000 seats available for members: considering Newcastle members only, if a large amount of them bought even just 3-4 tix, it's not hard to imagine how many other members have potentially missed out. And then there are Victory members too... Also, the members pre-sale was cut short by 24 hours. Lots of stories on social media.

I am VERY frustrated, and if anything, this farce will not encourage me to support the club by becoming a member next year.

Ticketmaster: “The allocation of 10 tickets per member was maintained after discussions with Newcastle Jets management and is implemented to ensure that people can sit with their families and friends at the match and reduce their transactional costs.”
BULLSH*T: a membership should guarantee the right to buy a seat for the finals, no discussions about this. Families and friends - if they are not members, like the rest of the general public - should line up for their tickets, they didn't pay for the privilege. It should be easy for ticketb*stard to implement a platform to allow members to buy seats adjacent to other members, if that's the problem.

I know, I'm still dirty 24 hours after the "incident"... actually looking for a ticket, but not at ridiculous prices - and not from dodgy sources either: not hard to print out 50 copies from a pdf ;)

[Jeterpool]

There were probably more than 25000 seats available for members: considering Newcastle members only, if a large amount of them bought even just 3-4 tix, it's not hard to imagine how many other members have potentially missed out. And then there are Victory members too... Also, the members pre-sale was cut short by 24 hours. Lots of stories on social media.


Lawrie has come out on social media and mentioned the Jets members bought, on average, 3.2 tickets per member number. With 8000+ members it doesnt' go evenly into 20000.

[380]

I would have thought it would encourage you to become a member. Ultimately like any membership members have been provided first crack.

[sorefootballer]

For those that missed out i do feel for you. But it happens. Now go find a pub with a bunch of your mates and go get silly. The rest of newy will be pumping so go enjoy it. This will be a great moment

[The Dunster]

I would have thought it would encourage you to become a member. Ultimately like any membership members have been provided first crack.

If you do the maths members were not guaranteed a ticket.
Members that did get tickets are also scalping them or got them for friends and family with no interest in the Jets other than being able to say "look where I am " on their snap chat or whatever.

I've been to grand finals with crowds over 100k so I don't need to go to this one to experience anything new.

But I feel for those that missed out on tickets who genuinely want to see their team in a grand final - which I seriously doubt is the case for a lot of those going who really have no interest in the jets or even football for that matter.

[mic22]

Lawrie has come out on social media and mentioned the Jets members bought, on average, 3.2 tickets per member number. With 8000+ members it doesnt' go evenly into 20000.

9000+ members for the Jest actually: x 3.2 it gives about 28000 !!!
This, plus the Victory members, easily explains why there were virtually NO tickets available to the general public...
What were they thinking...

[mic22]

If you do the maths members were not guaranteed a ticket.
Members that did get tickets are also scalping them or got them for friends and family with no interest in the Jets other than being able to say "look where I am " on their snap chat or whatever.

I've been to grand finals with crowds over 100k so I don't need to go to this one to experience anything new.

But I feel for those that missed out on tickets who genuinely want to see their team in a grand final - which I seriously doubt is the case for a lot of those going who really have no interest in the jets or even football for that matter.

This.
1 ticket per member would have meant around 15000+ tix reserved for members of both teams i.e. half the capacity of the stadium. This would've been fair.

[halo se7en]

This is giving ammunition to FFA not to hold GFs in smaller stadiums anymore.

[boz-monaut]

This is giving ammunition to FFA not to hold GFs in smaller stadiums anymore.

it's got a higher capacity than AAMI Park or any of the other regular A-league stadiums beside SFS and Lang Park

[plague]

listen gang.
the double eff aye wants a full stadium.

they got a full stadium.

trust me, blokes down there are getting their bonus' and backslaps they dont care 'who' is in the crowd, they care that there 'is' a crowd.

again, I'm not a member, and i tried getting tickets for Plague Jnr for him to go but missed out.

thats life.

there was a way around this and Members made decisions at the start of the year to be in that privileged position. If they (and their friends) are the main beneficiaries of Newy getting the GF then i think thats awesome. Because hopefully the Members friends then enjoy the moment enough to want to join themselves.

for some blow ins to complain then vow NOT to join up kind of strengthens the point of not tailoring the system to suit you.

you may or may not be a 'better' fan than the people who got tickets.

but you, and only you, made the decision not to become a member and forfeit the privilege of getting first crack.

deal with it, then take the advice of an esteemed foz poster. Get to a boozer, host a party, and make the most of the moment. I'll be in Melbourne and prob the only Jerks fan in a sea of Tards. Lemons and Lemonade and all that.

[The Dunster]

This is giving ammunition to FFA not to hold GFs in smaller stadiums anymore.

I think the problem is that the FFA are actually getting what they want from this and the fans are not.

The FFA don't even need to promote the game anymore this week as it's a sellout already. So I hardly think they'd have any negative feelings about the curent situation.

That members missed out on tickets I doubt they'd give a fark.

[380]

For those that missed out i do feel for you. But it happens. Now go find a pub with a bunch of your mates and go get silly. The rest of newy will be pumping so go enjoy it. This will be a great moment


This. I just read some stupid statement on the ABC how some bloke reckoned the Football Family tickets offer were tickets priced 4 times the original face value. Who makes this shit up ?.

FMD all that is going to happen out of all this is like others have said, The peanuts at FFA will never hold a GF outside of a capital city again regardless of which clubs qualify.

Has any Jets member on here missed out, Just curious ?

[mic22]

listen gang.
the double eff aye wants a full stadium.

they got a full stadium.

trust me, blokes down there are getting their bonus' and backslaps they dont care 'who' is in the crowd, they care that there 'is' a crowd.

i agree with this




for some blow ins to complain then vow NOT to join up kind of strengthens the point of not tailoring the system to suit you.

you may or may not be a 'better' fan than the people who got tickets.


Disagree with this.
As a non-member, I actually ended up forking out more than a member by attending almost all the home games.
This doesn't give me any privilege, and I know.
But members shouldn't have more privileges than what they paid for either ;)

[The Hacker]

i agree with this




Disagree with this.
As a non-member, I actually ended up forking out more than a member by attending almost all the home games.
This doesn't give me any privilege, and I know.
But members shouldn't have more privileges than what they paid for either ;)

Members forked out their hard earned at the start of the season when we were wooden spoon holders with a glimmer of hope that maybe just maybe this year will be different. That's the difference they didn't start investing in the club cause they won a few games to start the year. That's the privilege they paid for when we were still 10th and this year they as they say in the classic 'the members this year have been kissed on the d**k by how it's panned out'

[380]

Missing our very own members's take on this. Surely he not still in the dog house.

[plague]

from memory i got a bunch of tix in '08 first crack by being a member.
not sure if it was 10 (and granted it was a while ago and i was drunk the whole time).
but im sure Mrs Plague and I were the only members of our crew who were members and there were at least 12 others with us. Can anyone remember what the deal was?

for the record the following year 8 of them became members (and they've never forgiven me!!!!)

[plague]

Members forked out their hard earned at the start of the season when we were wooden spoon holders with a glimmer of hope that maybe just maybe this year will be different. That's the difference they didn't start investing in the club cause they won a few games to start the year. That's the privilege they paid for when we were still 10th and this year they as they say in the classic 'the members this year have been kissed on the d**k by how it's panned out'

yeah im with this comment. Theres a LOT of people who have shelled out for years of garbage, for them to get a rub of the green for once is fine by me.
i was one of the ones who gave up 2 years ago after being a member since day 1.
i got great seats and an awesome day with my friends in '08, if members get to have that feeling again (or for the first time) im happy for them.


this is a great day time for newy, gotta stop hating.

[380]

How many of those members are children NOT purchasing 3.2 tickets ?.So this multiplying the total membership number by 3.2 or whatever it was is rediculous.

From an article i read there was just over 6300 transactions meaning just over 20,000 sold to members. So if you were a member with access to a computer or other platform to purchase tickets you would have got one. After that it was always going to be a lottery and a dose of good fortune for the general public.

There is a lesson in all this, become a member and if history is anything to go by after Saturday night you too can sit through another nine years of utter crap and frustration coming home to the IQ and deleting the game before you even get a chance to watch it because it is so painful.

[Jetmaster]

The important point is that not all member numbers bought tix. I used my number to buy the tickets for 8 other members, who usually sit together anyway. So 1 member bought 8 tix, but 7 other members bought none.

Blame the FFA for abandoning the "same seat" policy that worked so well last week. Simple and fair. The sole reason for that though was to get access to those prime centreline tix for their cronies and friends. I think these are the tix Lawrie is asking about.

So basically...take off the 2-3000 tix sold to MV members and thats less than 2 tickets per Jets member.

[Jeterpool]

Missing our very own members's take on this. Surely he not still in the dog house.

I think mic22 is the Member!

[plague]

I think mic22 is the Member!

I thought he was the Plague?

[sorefootballer]

I do hope the member is enjoying the week. He was always an angry man, so i hope he can take some solace in the fact that we made it

[mic22]

Members forked out their hard earned at the start of the season when we were wooden spoon holders with a glimmer of hope that maybe just maybe this year will be different. That's the difference they didn't start investing in the club cause they won a few games to start the year. That's the privilege they paid for when we were still 10th and this year they as they say in the classic 'the members this year have been kissed on the d**k by how it's panned out'

Umm... that's exactly what I said... you earned the privilege. But 10 (or more) tix? Was that part of the membership deal? Not sure about that... and how exactly the 9 extra ticket holders earned their privilege?
Btw, I'm not a member because, for different reasons, I'm never sure I can attend home games. This year turned out to be different and I was very happy to fork out my hard earned whenever I could. I know this doesn't give me any privileges... so maybe cut me some slack eh? ;)

Anyway... enough of my little old rants, sorry about that.

I'm not a member... and I'm not THE member, and if you had any doubts: I actually appreciate Boogaard :D

[Retro Jet]

How long is the ban for anyway? Can't he have a reprieve for 24 hours from Sat 6am?
Poll question??

(Disclaimer: I write the above with no knowledge of who he killed to get banned)

[StannyCFCJET]

How long is the ban for anyway? Can't he have a reprieve for 24 hours from Sat 6am?
Poll question??

(Disclaimer: I write the above with no knowledge of who he killed to get banned)

If I remember he made some rants using homophobic slurs

[380]

Yes given the enormity of the week it would be nice to hear from the Human Headline that is the MFKS. A reprieve would be a great gesture IMO but like my wife says my opinion counts for squat.

[The Hacker]

Yes given the enormity of the week it would be nice to hear from the Human Headline that is the MFKS. A reprieve would be a great gesture IMO but like my wife says my opinion counts for squat.

A reprieve from 5pm today till Sunday. People make mistakes and if he returns for the week and steps out of line. Then he can never return. I think that's fair. Plus I'd love to see a post from him that just says 'I'm back' the forum would go bonkers. Bring him back in the fold

[Jetmaster]

If I remember he made some rants using homophobic slurs

The one that got him banned was pretty pissweak tbh and no more offensive than several others in the very same thread. Just words and his history caught up with him.

But banned he got, though I thought he'd be back by now.

[Bon]

The one that got him banned was pretty pissweak tbh and no more offensive than several others in the very same thread. Just words and his history caught up with him.

But banned he got, though I thought he'd be back by now.

True..
I believe he is treating himself in Malaysia atm..

[leftrightout]

Umm... that's exactly what I said... you earned the privilege. But 10 (or more) tix? Was that part of the membership deal?

Obviously, yes it was!

[Wilso8948]

I'd like to see how many members that missed out on tix would have gone if the GF was elsewhere.. From my understanding it was still relatively easy to purchase via membership 2 hrs into the presale. It isn't a member only event. Members had the privilege to purchase first and could do so comfortably within the opening hours. I think many underestimated that this is the GF not just another game in Newy. Set your alarm for 10am and get it sorted. Done.

[Jeterpool]

I'd like to see how many members that missed out on tix would have gone if the GF was elsewhere.. From my understanding it was still relatively easy to purchase via membership 2 hrs into the presale. It isn't a member only event. Members had the privilege to purchase first and could do so comfortably within the opening hours. I think many underestimated that this is the GF not just another game in Newy. Set your alarm for 10am and get it sorted. Done.

Bingo.

[Guerny]

wow! imagine having problems getting tickets to a football match...

It happens once a decade here.
I remember going into a lottery each WEEK in the UK just to try and win a ticket to a local weekly PM league match (because i wasn't a member).

[MonkeyKplunk]

I said it in a thread on FB and I'll say it here...

The idea that someone would stamp their feet and not renew a club membership because of a decision (a bad one) that the FFA made is idiotic.

Curious to know past attendance to GFs held in the capital city stadiums and how they compare to a sold out 33000+ "small" stadium

[leftrightout]

I'd like to see how many members that missed out on tix would have gone if the GF was elsewhere.. From my understanding it was still relatively easy to purchase via membership 2 hrs into the presale. It isn't a member only event. Members had the privilege to purchase first and could do so comfortably within the opening hours. I think many underestimated that this is the GF not just another game in Newy. Set your alarm for 10am and get it sorted. Done.

The exact thoughts i expressed the other day. I had no trouble securing my 2 tickets at 10am on Sunday.
I am a member who desperately wanted to be at this match so left no chance of missing out.

Out of curiosity i logged back in at around 11.30 and was easily and quickly able to secure 2 more tickets, i obviously did this and they are now on ticketmaster resale for $12,000*





* this is a joke people, i discarded them!

[Macca]

Also, the fact that people (from Newcastle!) are saying it should have been held in Sydney is a joke. Its a shame that people who wanted to go can't - but as mentioned above, that is the norm around the world in many leagues week in week out. I can sympathise with the true supporters that have missed out - but there is a LOT of people who probably haven't been to a game in years if ever, who are outraged that they couldn't attend. I have no sympathy for them, and their entitlement that they deserve to attend any more than the people who were able to secure tickets is laughable.

Lawrie has stated the FFA are organising to give the Jets small extra allocations so they can give some more tickets to members who weren't able to get tickets - fantastic work.
He also stated they are working with NCC and LMCC to arrange live viewing sites around the city.

Lets hope the vast majority get on board come match day and lets show the country why we deserve to host the final we earned.

[The Dunster]

The exact thoughts i expressed the other day. I had no trouble securing my 2 tickets at 10am on Sunday.
I am a member who desperately wanted to be at this match so left no chance of missing out.

Out of curiosity i logged back in at around 11.30 and was easily and quickly able to secure 2 more tickets, i obviously did this and they are now on ticketmaster resale for $12,000*





* this is a joke people, i discarded them!

Some people work Sunday, some people have limited phone / internet access, some people may not have credit cards.. and as such would not have been able to get tickets on the Sunday. There are many reasons.

I think anyone not a member doesn't have a leg to stand on - but those that are members who did miss out are victims of a system that is a complete joke.

Note, Lawrie has said they are not happy with members seeking to profit from tickets and has gone as far as to say it's possible their application for future membership could be denied.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

I said it in a thread on FB and I'll say it here...

The idea that someone would stamp their feet and not renew a club membership because of a decision (a bad one) that the FFA made is idiotic.

Curious to know past attendance to GFs held in the capital city stadiums and how they compare to a sold out 33000+ "small" stadium


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-League_attendance

This has the top 6.
Couldn't find the lowest attendances, but a few years back they had one at AAMI Park. Would hold 30,000 absolute max I would think.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I’m not a member as I live in Sydney now, and work an unpredictable roster, but when I’m back home in newy I’ll go see a game if it’s on or NPL. I missed out on tickets and was ready to go on Monday’s presale. Had tickets and went to pay and they were gone.

No issue with members getting tickets before me.
Can somebody explain what the difference is between scalping and Ticketmaster resale?
Splendour in the grass allow people with tickets to resell their tickets for face value. They get all but their booking fees back.
I don’t understand why Ticketmaster resale is just as acceptable as eBay or standing out the front selling tickets for profit.

Yehhh I’m a little annoyed that people are seeing their first a league game and asking what colours to wear for a game I’d very much love to be at. I was there in 08, I’m glad I saw that.
I kind of agree with Lawrie and hope there could be an investigation on people selling large quantities of tickets for huge profits.

Regardless. Should be a great day in Newcastle. Will be great to push our claim for more games, recruit more members for next season and showcase what a great crowd we can be!
To all those that can go, enjoy! Hopefully you guys can celebrate!

[margie]

Same,
purchased the 8 we needed at 10am, then purchased 2 others at 11.30
No trouble whatsoever
Happy Days

[mic22]

No issue with members getting tickets before me.
Can somebody explain what the difference is between scalping and Ticketmaster resale?
Splendour in the grass allow people with tickets to resell their tickets for face value. They get all but their booking fees back.
I don’t understand why Ticketmaster resale is just as acceptable as eBay or standing out the front selling tickets for profit.

Yehhh I’m a little annoyed that people are seeing their first a league game and asking what colours to wear for a game I’d very much love to be at. I was there in 08, I’m glad I saw that.
I kind of agree with Lawrie and hope there could be an investigation on people selling large quantities of tickets for huge profits.

Regardless. Should be a great day in Newcastle. Will be great to push our claim for more games, recruit more members for next season and showcase what a great crowd we can be!
To all those that can go, enjoy! Hopefully you guys can celebrate!

I'm with you...
Very simply put: ticketb*stard resale should have an automatic limit to 110% of the face value. I'm quite surprised no one is looking into it (hopefully someone is). Looking at the prices, it definitely looks like they get a % on the price, so it's a double fee for them, actually a much higher one for the resale ticket. That's illegal as far as I know.
I have friends who are going to the game... they are sooo excited about their first Jets game (is that European football, they asked... :shock::what::slap: ).
They would have NEVER tried to buy a ticket online on Monday, or to get in line outside the stadium...

Anyway, just went to have a look at the open training session: there is a great vibe around the team, schools with their teachers etc.
Gonna be a great week for Newy, that's for sure!

[Mark325]

would people use the same team as last week?

Obviously we have to start Moss over Duncan, who's the youth league keeper?

Last game we also didn't play Pato at all, obviously the game was 2-1 at the 90th or something when we made the sub, but going into this game would people be looking at bringing Pato on as opposed to Cowburn?

Would people also look at using Brown or no? From what I rememeber people said he's healthy, but after his run on and run off 10 minutes later, is it worth risking for this one game?

[The Dunster]

would people use the same team as last week?

Obviously we have to start Moss over Duncan, who's the youth league keeper?

Last game we also didn't play Pato at all, obviously the game was 2-1 at the 90th or something when we made the sub, but going into this game would people be looking at bringing Pato on as opposed to Cowburn?

If we are chasing a goal then it has to be Pato you would bring on. I was surprised Cowburn got a run last week but he didn't do anything wrong either.

[halo se7en]

would people use the same team as last week?

Obviously we have to start Moss over Duncan, who's the youth league keeper?

Last game we also didn't play Pato at all, obviously the game was 2-1 at the 90th or something when we made the sub, but going into this game would people be looking at bringing Pato on as opposed to Cowburn?

Would people also look at using Brown or no? From what I rememeber people said he's healthy, but after his run on and run off 10 minutes later, is it worth risking for this one game?

I wouldn't change the team at all. The late subs will obviously depend on the score at that point.

[Jeterpool]

If we are chasing a goal then it has to be Pato you would bring on. I was surprised Cowburn got a run last week but he didn't do anything wrong either.

the Cowburn sub was very defensive. I'd have brought Pato on because if City scored (as they almost did) then I'd have rathered Pato as a point of difference in extra time and penalties.

The injury to Duncan didn't help and affected our substitution strategy


Oh, and I'd be starting the same team, but obviously Moss for Duncan. I'm interested how we manage George and Barba with Gorgeous George and JK

[Premy]

I'd like to see how many members that missed out on tix would have gone if the GF was elsewhere.. From my understanding it was still relatively easy to purchase via membership 2 hrs into the presale. It isn't a member only event. Members had the privilege to purchase first and could do so comfortably within the opening hours. I think many underestimated that this is the GF not just another game in Newy. Set your alarm for 10am and get it sorted. Done.

Exactly members who missed out need to take some personal responsibility for missing out.

[Mark325]

Oh, and I'd be starting the same team, but obviously Moss for Duncan. I'm interested how we manage George and Barba with Gorgeous George and JK

Well this is why i ask if we start the same team, because Jackson had Barba's number last time, and was wondering if people felt going down a similar road this game made more sense, or if people feel confident that both johnny k or george could handle him themselves and not have to worry about that.

Also when i say use Brown, i mean as a substitute, definitely not in the starting team

[plague]

I'm with you...
Very simply put: ticketb*stard resale should have an automatic limit to 110% of the face value. I'm quite surprised no one is looking into it (hopefully someone is). Looking at the prices, it definitely looks like they get a % on the price, so it's a double fee for them, actually a much higher one for the resale ticket. That's illegal as far as I know.


Just make sure when you sell your house you don't do that thing where you get the most money possible or anything.

Maybe just pop 10% on top of what you paid then give it to someone who really really 'deserves' that house.

Geez you guys, what sort of hippie utopia y'all tryna live in?

[plague]

Johnny K is the reason why we are here.

Stopped the rot and beat the gypos 8-0 himself.

Must start or Merrick out.

[Jeterpool]

Well this is why i ask if we start the same team, because Jackson had Barba's number last time, and was wondering if people felt going down a similar road this game made more sense, or if people feel confident that both johnny k or george could handle him themselves and not have to worry about that.

Also when i say use Brown, i mean as a substitute, definitely not in the starting team

Johnny has earned his spot and we played our "bash Barba" card earlier this year with Lachie. He handled Arazni mostly well last week and I think he will be up against George on the right.

[380]

As much as i reckon Jackson done a good job frustrating Barba out of the game Johny K is also more than capable of doing same. He has earned his opportunity and when you think of how well he has stepped up with very little football behind him it is just reward.

I reckon Ernie would have liked to let Pato loose for a period last weekend but the Duncan sub robbed of him being able to make three outfield changes. Pato is not everybody's cup of tea quite clearly based on posts on here but on a tiring defence he could well and truly be the difference.

[Jeterpool]

Pato is not everybody's cup of tea quite clearly based on posts on here but on a tiring defence he could well and truly be the difference.

Our option to bring Pato and Champness off the bench as attacking, and most importantly threatening, options could be a game-changer. Joey has height and strength and could cause Nigro or Broxham trouble as they tire, as you mention.

[Mark325]

As much as i reckon Jackson done a good job frustrating Barba out of the game Johny K is also more than capable of doing same. He has earned his opportunity and when you think of how well he has stepped up with very little football behind him it is just reward.

I reckon Ernie would have liked to let Pato loose for a period last weekend but the Duncan sub robbed of him being able to make three outfield changes. Pato is not everybody's cup of tea quite clearly based on posts on here but on a tiring defence he could well and truly be the difference.

I do agree on Johnny K, more asking the question as I think it is an interesting one. It's really a shame to me that Johnny K didn't get an extended run during his first little go at right back around round 10, really great young player that hopefully we continue to try and get value out of going into next season.

I do think last game was a bad decision by Merrick to bring on Cowburn, I get the idea but if City scored we'd be in a rough spot as we're now down an attacking player and have Cowburn on the pitch. The whole thing did definitely get screwed up by the Duncan injury, this game I'd imagine Pato gets a run. I also think he's starting to change a little bit, last couple of games I noticed more running out of him, seems more active off the ball.

[Mark325]

Our option to bring Pato and Champness off the bench as attacking, and most importantly threatening, options could be a game-changer. Joey has height and strength and could cause Nigro or Broxham trouble as they tire, as you mention.

Champness instantly made a difference, got the assist for Hoff and added an energy into our attack that we did need at that time.

[The Hacker]

Johnny K is the reason why we are here.

Stopped the rot and beat the gypos 8-0 himself.

Must start or Merrick out.

What if Kanta is fit?

[The Dunster]

What if Kanta is fit?

Not a chance. Blokes only got half a hammy ffs.

[The Dunster]

Did anyone go to training today ? It was an open day for the fans at Ray Watt Oval to watch them train then meet and get autographs from the players - if you are into that type of thing.

[plague]

What if Kanta is fit?

Huh?
Didn't even know that was a possibility.
If hes fit he plays too.
Get all the Newyboys in there Ernie.

[mic22]

Just make sure when you sell your house you don't do that thing where you get the most money possible or anything.

Maybe just pop 10% on top of what you paid then give it to someone who really really 'deserves' that house.

Geez you guys, what sort of hippie utopia y'all tryna live in?

It's called "the law"...
Ticket scalping is illegal. Or is it?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcA-eekVAAAsUlG.jpg

Utopia... lol

[sorry for the image size]

[leftrightout]

It's funny, this is probably the first time in a long time i think our team wins on paper against Victory... particularly the depth on our bench!
If our attack cant score against that defence (without Williams) then i'll be extremely disappointed!!

[plague]

It's called "the law"...
Ticket scalping is illegal. Or is it?

Hence why I said that apparently Ticketmaster resale is a legit service endorsed by the double eff aye.

As for scalping being illegal? I dunno man.
But you ain't looking at it from a legal standpoint.

Because if you could get your hands on a ticket at a 10-20 or 30% markup you're paying it and you know it.

You are coming from a 'moralistic' standpoint. Which is fine, but don't confuse the 2.

[Jeterpool]

Champness instantly made a difference, got the assist for Hoff and added an energy into our attack that we did need at that time.

Malik got the assist for Hoff ;)

[mic22]

Hence why I said that apparently Ticketmaster resale is a legit service endorsed by the double eff aye.

As for scalping being illegal? I dunno man.
But you ain't looking at it from a legal standpoint.

Because if you could get your hands on a ticket at a 10-20 or 30% markup you're paying it and you know it.

You are coming from a 'moralistic' standpoint. Which is fine, but don't confuse the 2.

I'm not sure I'm the one making confusion... e.g. the house example, which really isn't a fitting one ;)
130$ for a football game: probably not. If someone had a genuine "spare ticket" (why would anyone buy a spare ticket anyway???) at face value, I would consider it.
Ticketb*****d resale is a legit business, yes, but they just ALLEGEDLY turn a blind eye on illegal practices.

Enough with my personal ticketing issues/crusades now: let's enjoy the week.
I'll be on my couch, reinvesting 100$ in good food and beverages.

[380]

If there is one thing Champers does do well and that is hug that sideline, He ensures we always have plenty of width so not withstanding when he is directly involved in the play he also stretches the defence from one sideline to the other allowing the likes of Dimi and co to do there ad hoc one touch stuff that has got us this far.

If we can get an early one and the crowd gets on the Victory's case i can see us really going on with it. Victory played there GF last weekend.

[Jetmaster]

Kanta and Brown both trained strongly today and both told me during the signing session they felt great.

Must drink the same elixir Boogs has had.

[Jeterpool]

Kanta and Brown both trained strongly today and both told me during the signing session they felt great.

Must drink the same elixir Boogs has had.

Something in the water around the uni

[The Hacker]

Huh?
Didn't even know that was a possibility.
If hes fit he plays too.
Get all the Newyboys in there Ernie.

The only reason I say about Kanta is the mail I got was Kanta will partner Uga in the midfield Riley will play in the front 3 and Hoff will take Johnny K spot at the back. Which has our 11 best players on the field

[The Dunster]

Kanta and Brown both trained strongly today and both told me during the signing session they felt great.

Must drink the same elixir Boogs has had.

Brown trained strongly last time and look what happened. I

We have enough depth, not sure I'd take a risk on playing either of them.

[plague]

The only reason I say about Kanta is the mail I got was Kanta will partner Uga in the midfield Riley will play in the front 3 and Hoff will take Johnny K spot at the back. Which has our 11 best players on the field

Yeah as JM said he was out there doing his burpees today so Ernie has some decisions to make.

Ugabooga was great last week and if Ernie thinks him screening Topor and Boogs on Berisha I'd be shocked if he didn't want a bit more attack out of that other midfield spot.

Ernie HAS to take the game to them yeah?
Cant see him changing McGree or Hoffs roles. Which is a bummer for Kanta.

[Jeterpool]

Here's a theory - the Boogs injury and Kanta injury have been overstated to put other teams off. Mind games and when they come back "early" it is expected they will be underdone when in fact that isn't the case.

makes for an interesting discussion around the bench

[Mark325]

Would Kanta maybe go on the bench over cowburn then? Because I think changing the starting would be very risky, but changing the bench could be possible

[Mark325]

Also Williams and theohaurus are out for Victory

[Macca]

I'd be hesitant to put Kanta on the bench, lest we get another Brown situation. If they're in any doubt they shouldn't play - the team that beat City is good enough to do the job.

[leftrightout]

I'd be hesitant to put Kanta on the bench, lest we get another Brown situation. If they're in any doubt they shouldn't play - the team that beat City is good enough to do the job.

My heart thinks Kanta deserves to play. My head agrees with this!
Stick with the same squad, change nothing!

[Jeterpool]

I'd be hesitant to put Kanta on the bench, lest we get another Brown situation. If they're in any doubt they shouldn't play - the team that beat City is good enough to do the job.

If we pick them it's one or the other. I don't think we can have two players with injury clouds on the bench. It's fortunate they'd both fill the same spot.


My heart thinks Kanta deserves to play. My head agrees with this!
Stick with the same squad, change nothing!

I'd have the same starting lineup and have a bench including:

Noah James (GK)
Lachlan Jackson
Pato Rodriguez
Joey Champness
Ben Kantarovski

[Mark325]

I'd have the same starting lineup and have a bench including:

Noah James (GK)
Lachlan Jackson
Pato Rodriguez
Joey Champness
Ben Kantarovski

I imagine Noah James is the starting keep for the youth, obviously you’d hope we don’t need him but is he at least decent in the horror scenario where we do

[Jetmaster]

Read Griff's latest sermon....interesting thoughts on Con.

https://www.playersvoice.com.au/joel-griffiths-tinkler-turmoil-to-grand-final/#KcUt8dZGRychhhRq.97

[Couscous]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcKMFyFVAAE2lWp.jpg:large

[Couscous]

Read Griff's latest sermon....interesting thoughts on Con.

And on GVE:


Our coach, Gary van Egmond, was massive in 2008. He really made training enjoyable, he made playing away really entertaining and gave us a sense of freedom, which as striker is invaluable. He got everyone on board.

[sorefootballer]

Something in the water around the uni
Mosquitoes from memory

[halo se7en]

And on GVE:

Sounds similar to what they're saying about Ernie.

[plague]

Speaking of newy history:

Joey Gibbs still out there offering his services as a specialist striker coach.

[Jeterpool]

Speaking of newy history:

Joey Gibbs still out there offering his services as a specialist striker coach.

Along with Parisi has the best minutes per goal ratio for the club :grin:

[380]

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5376917/minister-responds-to-grand-final-ticket-gouging-criticism/?cs=305


Perhaps why nothing being done re scalping.

[hawk]

Griffos post...would read again

[hawk]

cmon. Need more hype!

[380]

cmon. Need more hype!

Return of the forum villain should provide all the necessary hype and and dare i say controversy.

[plague]

Return of the forum villain should provide all the necessary hype and and dare i say controversy.

Best move he could pull is to not show up.

Genuinely keen to see Parkseys victory lap though.

[mic22]

From Gumtree

I have 2 seated tickets in the eastern grand stand bay 21 up stairs, Willing to sell them for $500ea, I'm not a scalper, these are my tickets, my wife and I are going to the game if we don't get $500ea for them.
Cheers
Not a scalper... a philanthropist maybe? :D

[Bon]

From Gumtree

Not a scalper... a fvckwit maybe? :D

Fixed..

[Jeterpool]

Fixed..

More accurate

[Jeterpool]

Newcastle Jets squad: 1.Jack DUNCAN (Gk), 3.Jason HOFFMAN, 4.Nigel BOOGAARD (c), 6.Steven UGARKOVIC, 7.Dimi PETRATOS, 8.Ronald VARGAS, 9.Roy O’DONOVAN, 11.Patricio RODRIGUEZ, 13.Ivan VUJICA, 16.Nick COWBURN, 17.Daniel GEORGIEVSKI, 18.Johnny KOUTROUMBIS, 19.Kosta PETRATOS, 20.Glen MOSS (Gk), 22.Lachlan JACKSON, 24.Joseph CHAMPNESS, 27.Riley MCGREE, 44.Nikolai TOPOR-STANLEY

**two to be omitted**


Ins: 13.Ivan VUJICA (promoted), 19.Kosta PETRATOS (promoted)

Outs: Nil

Unavailable: 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI (hamstring – 2 weeks), 10.Wayne BROWN (calf – 2 weeks)


Melbourne Victory squad: 1.Matt ACTON (Gk), 6.Leigh BROXHAM, 7.Kenny ATHIU, 8.Besart BERISHA, 9.Kosta BARBAROUSES, 10.James TROISI, 14.Thomas DENG, 16.Josh HOPE, 17.James DONACHIE, 18.Matias SANCHEZ, 19. Pierce WARING, 20.Lawrence THOMAS (Gk), 21.Carl VALERI (c), 22. Stefan NIGRO, 23.Jai INGHAM, 24.Terry ANTONIS, 31.Christian THEOHAROUS, 41.Leroy GEORGE

**two to be omitted**


Ins: 19.Pierce WARING (promoted), 23.Jai INGHAM (promoted)

Outs: Nil

Unavailable: 4.Rhys Williams (calf), 11.Mitch AUSTIN (knee)

[plague]

It's a Griffmas miracle..

Plague jnr has scored a ticket to the game.

Which means Plague jnr is happy.
But it prob means we will loose.

Massive thank you to Griff for making it happen.
Hail Griff.

[Frodo]

Newcastle Jets squad: 1.Jack DUNCAN (Gk), 3.Jason HOFFMAN, 4.Nigel BOOGAARD (c), 6.Steven UGARKOVIC, 7.Dimi PETRATOS, 8.Ronald VARGAS, 9.Roy O’DONOVAN, 11.Patricio RODRIGUEZ, 13.Ivan VUJICA, 16.Nick COWBURN, 17.Daniel GEORGIEVSKI, 18.Johnny KOUTROUMBIS, 19.Kosta PETRATOS, 20.Glen MOSS (Gk), 22.Lachlan JACKSON, 24.Joseph CHAMPNESS, 27.Riley MCGREE, 44.Nikolai TOPOR-STANLEY

**two to be omitted**


Ins: 13.Ivan VUJICA (promoted), 19.Kosta PETRATOS (promoted)

Outs: Nil

Unavailable: 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI (hamstring – 2 weeks), 10.Wayne BROWN (calf – 2 weeks)


Melbourne Victory squad: 1.Matt ACTON (Gk), 6.Leigh BROXHAM, 7.Kenny ATHIU, 8.Besart BERISHA, 9.Kosta BARBAROUSES, 10.James TROISI, 14.Thomas DENG, 16.Josh HOPE, 17.James DONACHIE, 18.Matias SANCHEZ, 19. Pierce WARING, 20.Lawrence THOMAS (Gk), 21.Carl VALERI (c), 22. Stefan NIGRO, 23.Jai INGHAM, 24.Terry ANTONIS, 31.Christian THEOHAROUS, 41.Leroy GEORGE

**two to be omitted**


Ins: 19.Pierce WARING (promoted), 23.Jai INGHAM (promoted)

Outs: Nil

Unavailable: 4.Rhys Williams (calf), 11.Mitch AUSTIN (knee)


Interesting that Duncan is named. He looked pretty gone when he hoofed that ball out and wanted off straight away. Hopefully he's good to go but how great is it having Mossy as back up.

[The Hacker]

Anyone know where I can get the 08 grand final keen to relive the bad boy. Watch lord Griff score the winner again

[Jeterpool]

Interesting that Duncan is named. He looked pretty gone when he hoofed that ball out and wanted off straight away. Hopefully he's good to go but how great is it having Mossy as back up.

I reckon it's a case of name him and see how he goes at training and if he doesn't get through they'll bring in Noah James. They can't risk an unfit Jack Duncan sitting on the pine - can they?

Was he training yesterday? Report from anyone at the open session?

[The Hacker]

I reckon it's a case of name him and see how he goes at training and if he doesn't get through they'll bring in Noah James. They can't risk an unfit Jack Duncan sitting on the pine - can they?

Was he training yesterday? Report from anyone at the open session?

Surely it's a nod to his year to name him but will come out closer to the game

[Jetmaster]

Jack didnt even sign things yesterday....was at physio

[pessimist]

Im worried.

About Berisha, luck, Beath the incompetent douche, Victards kicking us all night and not getting penalised.

Please Jets rise above

[Jeterpool]

Im worried.

About Berisha, luck, Beath the incompetent douche, Victards kicking us all night and not getting penalised.

Please Jets rise above

Beath isn't in the refereeing party. Craig Zetter is VAR

[Couscous]

So we have until 5pm Friday to find an NPL keeper who's eligible. Interestingly, that could be Covic, who's now 42.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/soccer/jets-chase-experienced-back-up-keeper-for-a-league-grand-final-20180503-p4zd9h.html

[Jetmaster]

Kid in Jets shirt wins the car in Just For Kicks....the planets are aligning.

[belchardo]

Kid in Jets shirt wins the car in Just For Kicks....the planets are aligning.

can't help feeling that they are aligning for an absolute cluster-**** of a performance on saturday night. too many things have gone right for us this season. there must be a karma dump-truck coming round the corner.

[plague]

Kid in Jets shirt wins the car in Just For Kicks....the planets are aligning.

Did Robbie Slater protest that it should have been a kid in a Sydney FC shirt?

[hawk]

can't help feeling that they are aligning for an absolute cluster-**** of a performance on saturday night. too many things have gone right for us this season. there must be a karma dump-truck coming round the corner.

Probs but on the other hand we could hardly kick a ball for a month before the Gypo win. htf does this happen.

[Jeterpool]

Did Robbie Slater protest that it should have been a kid in a Sydney FC shirt?

Speedy called for VAR

[Retro Jet]

And for what it's worth tomorrow, May the Fourth be with us...

[plague]

Kid in Jets shirt wins the car in Just For Kicks....the planets are aligning.

Just saw that.
Really cool, glad the little dude hit it himself rather than get those other bums to take it.

Eat a bag to those gypos who missed though.

[hawk]

Just saw that.
Really cool, glad the little dude hit it himself rather than get those other bums to take it.

Eat a bag to those gypos who missed though.

kid can also play and chooses newy over sydaney

[hawk]

And for what it's worth tomorrow, May the Fourth be with us...

Sat is revenge of the fifth

[Grimario]

Necevski in as back up GK.

[mic22]

Scalpers starting to get nervous... prices getting lower on tm resale - almost got one for 65$ :(
50+ tix on tm resale only, plus gumtree and other dodgy sites - I would never buy from gumtree...

[plague]

Scalpers starting to get nervous... prices getting lower on tm resale - almost got one for 65$ :(
50+ tix on tm resale only, plus gumtree and other dodgy sites - I would never buy from gumtree...

Yeah did some reading up on resale whilst looking for Plague jnr tix and the site is legit. they actually generate a new barcode and cancel the original one to stop people printing out then reposting.

Good luck on the hunt.

[Jeterpool]

Anybody willing to sit at the entrance acting as a security guard and await the arrival of the bus? If you can get Ernie off the coach, it's a good sign!

[380]

Scalpers starting to get nervous... prices getting lower on tm resale - almost got one for 65$ :(
50+ tix on tm resale only, plus gumtree and other dodgy sites - I would never buy from gumtree...

Why not buy from Gumtree ?. Make the offer on condition you get to pick the tickets up in person from a private residence.

[goaliepersempre]

Unfortunetly I couldnt get the time off work to head back from Europe. But my local pub will be showing the game... 11:50am kickoff time to not to bad...

[mic22]

Why not buy from Gumtree ?. Make the offer on condition you get to pick the tickets up in person from a private residence.

Well it could be a multiple copy, and someone else could scan the same code before I do. How can I possibly know?
Not going to take the risk.
Unless it's a proper ticket and not an e-ticket, of course. But no one is showing tix photos on gumtree...

More and more tix appearing on tmresale now: vast majority from the 2 seated areas behind the goals, about 10x face value.
Someone is very well organised...

[380]

I would hardly think a shonk would agree to purchase face to face at there place of residence. Not like you wouldn't know where to lob for restitution if all was not on the level.

[mic22]

Just found out tmresale takes about 28% of the resale price !!!!
On a ticket they already had a margin on.
******g b*******s, that's just WRONG.

[The Hacker]

I think hats off to the Knights for no sponsors logos etc painted on the ground to spoil the surface tomorrow

[hawk]

Anyone want a beer from the extended beer lines. I wont be able to watch anyway and chances of running onto field are too high.

What is the fine for fence jumping at our place?

[Retro Jet]

Anyone want a beer from the extended beer lines. I wont be able to watch anyway and chances of running onto field are too high.

What is the fine for fence jumping at our place?

It's $550 isn't it?
$500 + 10% GST! :rof:

[hawk]

It's $550 isn't it?
$500 + 10% GST! :rof:

cheaper than some seats


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npd1o_bWSKI

[Jetmaster]

Some of the odds offered are bizarre on Sportsbet. First scorer Pato our favourite at $6, Kosta at $12 (wtf), Ugar at $31.
Bes at $4.50 with Pierce Waring at $10.
The $11 on Jets to score 4 or more has me doing some sums!

[Retro Jet]

It's $550 isn't it?
$500 + 10% GST! :rof:


cheaper than some seats:rof:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npd1o_bWSKI

Great Vid and nice to see some of Jack's saves in there.
Sometimes I have to pinch myself for the season we've had...and it ain't over yet.

[sorefootballer]

Stadium still in pretty good condition. I don't know the year, it was only a few ago that MJS got new turf but it has really held up well.. It is one of the better ones?