HAL 18/19 - Round 1 - Nix v Jets - Sunday 21/10/18 3PM

[belchardo]

and so our defence begins.

game on moles.

[plague]

Loose.
4-1.
Merrick out.

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2018/19 Round 1 Wellington Phoenix v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 34 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 11, Phoenix Wins - 18, Drawn - 5


In Newcastle – 16 matches.
Jets Wins - 7, Phoenix Wins - 7, Drawn - 2
In New Zealand - 18 matches
Jets Wins - 4, Phoenix Wins - 11, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9553
Average Away A-League Crowd - 8321

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 44, Phoenix - 66
In New Zealand -
Jets – 13, Phoenix - 39

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 13, Phoenix - 20

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 64 (57 yellow, 7 red), Phoenix 54 (50 yellow, 4 red)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 1 (Hoffman 43') - Wellington Phoenix 0 at North Harbour Stadium, A-League, Round 23, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 23

Newcastle JetsWellington Phoenix
Jack DuncanTando Velaphi
Jason HoffmanScott Galloway
Lachlan JacksonGoran Paracki
Nikolai Topor-StanleyDylan Fox
Daniel GeorgievskiLiberto Cacace
Steven UgarkovicThomas Doyle
Ben KantarovskiMatthew Ridenton
Dimitri PetratosMatija Ljujic
Riley McGreeSarpreet Singh
Patricio RodriguezNathan Burns
Joe ChampnessRoy Krishna



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 5 (Heskey 36’, Griffiths 46’, Taggart 57’, Taggart 77’, Bridges 90+3’) – Phoenix 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 24, Season 2013/14, 22/03/2014.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Phoenix 5 (Barbarouses 24', Finkler 36', Ridenton 49', Hoffman 66' o.g, Bonevacia 86'), Round 24, Season 2016/17 at Westpac Stadium, 26/03/2017.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (4)
Phoenix - Shane Smeltz (6)


COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Mark Rudan - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (3 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 12 matches (3 wins, 3 drawn and 6 losses = 25% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 7 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 5 losses = 29% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No Matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (0 win, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 50% win ratio)



TALKING POINTS:

General

The last occasion the Jets played the Phoenix in Round 1 was in 2015/16 when they came away with 3 points in a 2-1 win. The winning goal was scored by Milos Trifunovic.
This was the Jets last win in Wellington.
This is the 3rd occasion the Jets and Phoenix will meet in Round 1. The Jets have only faced Adelaide (4) on more occasions in Round 1.
The Jets have conceded goals in the first half of the last 6 games, while scoring in just one of these.




Players

Mitch Austin may become the 75th player to appear for the Jets and another team in the league.
The next player to appear will be the 162nd capped player for the club in the league.
Matt Ridenton will be the 16th player to appear for both teams in this fixture.
Andrew Durante will make his 28th appearance against the Jets. This is 8th highest on the list, equal with Manny Muscat and Michael Theoklitos.



Newcastle Jets

Newcastle lost 3 of 13 away games last year.
The Jets scored in every away game last year.
The Jets record in their last 5 games have been won 2, lost 3.
Newcastle are 14 consecutive games without a clean sheet at Westpac Stadium.
When scoring first, Newcastle's record last year was 11 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss.

[belchardo]

The Jets record in their last 5 games have been won 2, lost 3.

i think that should read


The Jets record in their last 5 games have been won 2, lost 2, robbed 1.

[Jeterpool]

Quiz time

Matthew Ridenton may become the 16th player to appear in this fixture for both teams. Who are the 15 players to precede him?

[lil_masi]

Quiz time

Matthew Ridenton may become the 16th player to appear in this fixture for both teams. Who are the 15 players to precede him?

Johnson
Brown
Old
Brockie
Hearfield
Grifo
Mullen
Dura
Burns
Coveney
Moss
Reddy
Pav
North
Tsattolios

[Jeterpool]

Johnson
Brown
Old
Brockie
Hearfield
Grifo
Mullen
Dura
Burns
Coveney
Moss
Reddy
Pav
North
Tsattolios

Griffo and Tsattalios are incorrect.

[lil_masi]

Griffo and Tsattalios are incorrect.
Oh you said this fixture

[The Dunster]

Griffo and Tsattalios are incorrect.

Nick Ward

[Jeterpool]

Nick Ward

That's one I thought some would struggle to get

[MFKS]

Griffo and Tsattalios are incorrect.



As if Griff played for any other club bar Newy

FMD

[MFKS]

A-League 2018/19 Round 1 Wellington Phoenix v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 34 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 11, Phoenix Wins - 18, Drawn - 5


In Newcastle – 16 matches.
Jets Wins - 7, Phoenix Wins - 7, Drawn - 2
In New Zealand - 18 matches
Jets Wins - 4, Phoenix Wins - 11, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9553
Average Away A-League Crowd - 8321

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 44, Phoenix - 66
In New Zealand -
Jets – 13, Phoenix - 39

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 13, Phoenix - 20

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 64 (57 yellow, 7 red), Phoenix 54 (50 yellow, 4 red)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 1 (Hoffman 43') - Wellington Phoenix 0 at North Harbour Stadium, A-League, Round 23, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 23

Newcastle JetsWellington Phoenix
Jack DuncanTando Velaphi
Jason HoffmanScott Galloway
Lachlan JacksonGoran Paracki
Nikolai Topor-StanleyDylan Fox
Daniel GeorgievskiLiberto Cacace
Steven UgarkovicThomas Doyle
Ben KantarovskiMatthew Ridenton
Dimitri PetratosMatija Ljujic
Riley McGreeSarpreet Singh
Patricio RodriguezNathan Burns
Joe ChampnessRoy Krishna



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 5 (Heskey 36’, Griffiths 46’, Taggart 57’, Taggart 77’, Bridges 90+3’) – Phoenix 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 24, Season 2013/14, 22/03/2014.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Phoenix 5 (Barbarouses 24', Finkler 36', Ridenton 49', Hoffman 66' o.g, Bonevacia 86'), Round 24, Season 2016/17 at Westpac Stadium, 26/03/2017.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (4)
Phoenix - Shane Smeltz (6)


COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Mark Rudan - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (3 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 12 matches (3 wins, 3 drawn and 6 losses = 25% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 7 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 5 losses = 29% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No Matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (0 win, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 50% win ratio)



TALKING POINTS:

General

The last occasion the Jets played the Phoenix in Round 1 was in 2015/16 when they came away with 3 points in a 2-1 win. The winning goal was scored by Milos Trifunovic.
This was the Jets last win in Wellington.
This is the 3rd occasion the Jets and Phoenix will meet in Round 1. The Jets have only faced Adelaide (4) on more occasions in Round 1.
The Jets have conceded goals in the first half of the last 6 games, while scoring in just one of these.




Players

Mitch Austin may become the 75th player to appear for the Jets and another team in the league.
The next player to appear will be the 162nd capped player for the club in the league.
Matt Ridenton will be the 16th player to appear for both teams in this fixture.
Andrew Durante will make his 28th appearance against the Jets. This is 8th highest on the list, equal with Manny Muscat and Michael Theoklitos.



Newcastle Jets

Newcastle lost 3 of 13 away games last year.
The Jets scored in every away game last year.
The Jets record in their last 5 games have been won 2, lost 3.
Newcastle are 14 consecutive games without a clean sheet at Westpac Stadium.
When scoring first, Newcastle's record last year was 11 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss.


There doesnt appear to be any errors in this

WTF

Pick your game up and give us somnething to keep you honest

[Jeterpool]

There doesnt appear to be any errors in this

WTF

Pick your game up and give us somnething to keep you honest

*something

[Jeterpool]

There doesnt appear to be any errors in this

WTF

Pick your game up and give us somnething to keep you honest

I've peaked. It's all.down hill from here mate

[StannyCFCJET]

I've peaked. It's all.down hill from here mate

Just like Klopp and Liverpool last season :rof:

[MFKS]

Just like Klopp and Liverpool last season :rof:

And this season as well

They had already won the EPL 3 weeks ago dont forget

[StannyCFCJET]

And this season as well

They had already won the EPL 3 weeks ago dont forget

Thought they won it after pre season

[Imyourhero]

I'm worried about us defensively this year

[Roundball Enthusiast]

We ****ing suck in Wellington....

Lose, bottom of the table to start the season. Only need to gain 2 positions and we're home for the season.

Perfect start really.

[furns]

game day :yay:

wheres the excitement ffs?

[380]

Win 2-0

[MFKS]

game day :yay:

wheres the excitement ffs?

I just kicked a chick out who was molesting me to come watch this game

Nailed on loss coming

[belchardo]

solid first 20, but a touch rusty.

nothing more terrifying than boogard thinking he's still playing on the xbox and going for a dribbling run through midfield.

[belchardo]

frack. poor communication.

[Jetmaster]

We are the better side but we look like we "expect" to win and are being a little slack.

[Bremsstrahlung]

They look pretty rubbish. We aren’t too much better.

Vargas and Ridenton doing well. Silly turnovers in bad places. Very rusty in that regard.

[MFKS]

We're ****ing shit

Good to be back being honking again

Cant believe we let Pato go and signed this Brazillian

What the **** were we thinking??

Probably drinking from the same Kool Aid that has seen us play Jackson the most 1 footed unco player in HAL history at RB on his weak foot
FMD

On another note our defending at setpieces
#Topor
#Boogaard
#Jackson
#Hoffman

Why the **** do we look weak as piss aerially ??

Defies logic really

[redwah]

Just like Klopp and Liverpool last season :rof:

FMD....are sure you aren’t a manc with your obsession with Liverpool?

[redwah]

Does this pitch look extremely slow, like the grass is way to long or the ball flat....rubbish game at the moment.

[StannyCFCJET]

FMD....are sure you aren’t a manc with your obsession with Liverpool?

No obsession just love seeing them fail as does every non LFC fan

[Jetmaster]

Geez the NZ coverage looks cheap....even their podulum looks like a cardboard prop from a 60s Dr Who.

[belchardo]

does anybody else think jair really needs to get some training in running technique? somehow he manages to run with all the momentum going into rotating his shoulders.

[MFKS]

does anybody else think jair really needs to get some training in running technique? somehow he manages to run with all the momentum going into rotating his shoulders.

Least of his worries from what I see

I thinking Usain Bolt got more of a chance of succeeding in HAL than Jair

[belchardo]

goal may be overruled, but we are looking terrible in defence.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Least of his worries from what I see

I thinking Usain Bolt got more of a chance of succeeding in HAL than Jair

oh **** off.

[belchardo]

lucky. bit harsh to give him a card for that! maybe he mouthed off.

[MFKS]

Dont let that VAR decision gloss over 2 things

David Williams pathetic shot which was going well wide and the poor defending from Boogaard in the lead up

Both honking bits of play

[belchardo]

after the game, ernie should get the entire back line into the same room and get them to introduce themselves to each other. i mean, they clearly have never met before based on the defence we're putting up!

[belchardo]

VAR will look at that shove.

[foti68]

Win 2-0

Good call

[belchardo]

kiwi commentators giving the nix the bloody premiership and championship double already.

nice hit dimi.

[Couscous]

I don't wish to overreact but someone should bury our rubbish club.

[boz-monaut]

I actually thought the game kicked off at 5 and missed the whole thing

I should do this every week - much better way to be a Jets supporter

[Frodo]

I don't wish to overreact but someone should bury our rubbish club.

That's not an overreaction. Fold the entire league, I'm sick of putting myself through this crap.

[Frodo]

Well at least we've found our form again. We walked around for 80 mins trying to remember who each other were. Such slow build up, no urgency in defence, Hoffman is a great bloke but he isn't a striker. Set up a back line with 2 CBs and 2 FBs and maybe we will have a platform to work off. We looked like a team playing a trial game with players just tying to get fitness and touch.


I'd say Ernie is 75% responsible for his tactics and setup.

[380]

Well at least we've found our form again. We walked around for 80 mins trying to remember who each other were. Such slow build up, no urgency in defence, Hoffman is a great bloke but he isn't a striker. Set up a back line with 2 CBs and 2 FBs and maybe we will have a platform to work off. We looked like a team playing a trial game with players just tying to get fitness and touch.


I'd say Ernie is 75% responsible for his tactics and setup.

Yep was thinking the same, Ernie needs to take some ownership for today. Jackson ?, Then replacing him with a specialist F/B so wasting a sub to make that change.

[Nou Camp]

yeh couldnt figure out why jackson was at right back who is a better left back and georgievski who is a better right back was at left back....
merrick please explain this

[Tommyjet]

yeh couldnt figure out why jackson was at right back who is a better left back and georgievski who is a better right back was at left back....
merrick please explain this

Only thing I can think of is us playing a bit lopsided and georgie played a lot higher up the park and put extra pressure on their right side. We had a little success with this early but then they adjusted and jair+George both drifted out of the game

[The Dunster]

What odds are being offered about Jair not being here after Christmas ? I hope Lawrie kept the receipt and that the store has a good returns policy.

[380]

What odds are being offered about Jair not being here after Christmas ? I hope Lawrie kept the receipt and that the store has a good returns policy.

He was certainly disappointing first time out in a real match. He was also no lone ranger in that department. Just a real dysfunctional performance from Ernie down.

[380]

yeh couldnt figure out why jackson was at right back who is a better left back and georgievski who is a better right back was at left back....
merrick please explain this



I wasn't sure why he was out there from the start. With two fit specialist fullbacks in George and the peoples champ it was one of those odd selections from Ernie.

Vujica from memory was more than serviceable at the beginning of last season til injury put the brakes on him and from that moment on he was in and out of the squad. Watching a replay of the GF and then yesterdays game Hoff is not the answer til Roy returns and if Jair is then that also adds to Ernie's poor judgement yesterday.

[The Camel]

I wasn't sure why he was out there from the start. With two fit specialist fullbacks in George and the peoples champ it was one of those odd selections from Ernie.

Vujica from memory was more than serviceable at the beginning of last season til injury put the brakes on him and from that moment on he was in and out of the squad. Watching a replay of the GF and then yesterdays game Hoff is not the answer til Roy returns and if Jair is then that also adds to Ernie's poor judgement yesterday.

Vujica was in and out last year after his great start because he had tonsillitis 4 times. He's since had them out

[Bon]

Bon's "Inebriated at the Grain Store" player ratings/comments:
*These views may not represent reality or thoughts processed by a human brain*

Moss - 6. Had a few confused moments, but didn't do anything too flappy. Was very unlucky with the penalty, having saved it but parrying straight back to the kicker.
Georgievski - 3. Not for the oggie, that sh!t happens. Just for the rest of the game. Bloke had one of the worst games (for his usual high standards) that I've seen in a while.
NTS - 5. I don't know how many times that the ball went past him one way, and he was looking the other.
Boogs - 6. Made some good interventions and was good to see him getting his noggin' on a few of our corners. Still looked a bit shakey at times.
Jackson - 5. Yet another player that I want to do well, but just don't know if he's got it. I'm still not sure on Ernie's decision process to start him where he was, maybe that was it?
Stevie U-Gee - 6. Worked hard as usual. Can't remember too much more.
Ridenton - 5. I'm not sure what to make of him still. Can't help but feel he will be riding the pine once Backdoor Benny is injury free.
Jair - 4. Very unimpressed. I'm happy to be proved wrong, in fact, I REALLY hope that I am, but going off this first game, he looked less than average.
Vargas - 8. Looked the best of a bad bunch. Almost always looked great when he was on the ball.
Petratos - 7. Had an ok game, but for a bloke like him, I expect more. Gave the ball away a bit, and a few of his free kicks/corners weren't to his usual standard.. Scored a nice goal though, looked hungry, and noticeably worked back..
Hoffa - 5. I want Hoff to do well, I really do.. Buuuuuuuuuuut we need Roy back, asap.

Mitch Autism - Don't even remember him being subbed on, let alone doing anything. Actually, I only just realised it was him that ran on to the ball to lay off to Dimi for the goal.
Ivan - Still have no idea why he wasn't started. The only reason I can think of, is his lack of pace?
Sheppard - Had a few ok touches, but by the stage of his introduction I was trying to choose between a red IPA and a chocolate Stout..

[belchardo]

Bon's "Inebriated at the Grain Store" player ratings/comments:
*These views may not represent reality or thoughts processed by a human brain*

Moss - 6. Had a few confused moments, but didn't do anything too flappy. Was very unlucky with the penalty, having saved it but parrying straight back to the kicker.
Georgievski - 3. Not for the oggie, that sh!t happens. Just for the rest of the game. Bloke had one of the worst games (for his usual high standards) that I've seen in a while.
NTS - 5. I don't know how many times that the ball went past him one way, and he was looking the other.
Boogs - 6. Made some good interventions and was good to see him getting his noggin' on a few of our corners. Still looked a bit shakey at times.
Jackson - 5. Yet another player that I want to do well, but just don't know if he's got it. I'm still not sure on Ernie's decision process to start him where he was, maybe that was it?
Stevie U-Gee - 6. Worked hard as usual. Can't remember too much more.
Ridenton - 5. I'm not sure what to make of him still. Can't help but feel he will be riding the pine once Backdoor Benny is injury free.
Jair - 4. Very unimpressed. I'm happy to be proved wrong, in fact, I REALLY hope that I am, but going off this first game, he looked less than average.
Vargas - 8. Looked the best of a bad bunch. Almost always looked great when he was on the ball.
Petratos - 7. Had an ok game, but for a bloke like him, I expect more. Gave the ball away a bit, and a few of his free kicks/corners weren't to his usual standard.. Scored a nice goal though, looked hungry, and noticeably worked back..
Hoffa - 5. I want Hoff to do well, I really do.. Buuuuuuuuuuut we need Roy back, asap.

Mitch Autism - Don't even remember him being subbed on, let alone doing anything. Actually, I only just realised it was him that ran on to the ball to lay off to Dimi for the goal.
Ivan - Still have no idea why he wasn't started. The only reason I can think of, is his lack of pace?
Sheppard - Had a few ok touches, but by the stage of his introduction I was trying to choose between a red IPA and a chocolate Stout..

well don't leave us hanging, did you go for the IPA or stout?

[Bon]

well don't leave us hanging, did you go for the IPA or stout?

I ended up eventually having both.. :thumbsup:

[StannyCFCJET]

Ugar played the ball for Austin

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I ended up eventually having both.. :thumbsup:

Very good decision. Love a good Red - and an even better night cap in the choccy stout.

[martinp]

He was certainly disappointing first time out in a real crazy bulk results (https://www.fitnessdonkey.com/legal-steroids/crazy-bulk-review) match. He was also no lone ranger in that department. Just a real dysfunctional performance from Ernie down.

Think positive man! Maybe he will catch up and show better performance.

[Imyourhero]

i want to see Jair up top, doesn't look fast enough for me out wide

[380]

Think positive man! Maybe he will catch up and show better performance.

Plenty of confidence in the bloke. I am also wanting to see him play up top and i may very well be wrong but i thought that was why he was signed up, To fill that void left by Irish til his return from suspension. I have no doubt having watched the Roar v Gypo game had Jair been afforded the same number of opportunities that Taggart was in the first half then we may very well be discussing a brace for Jair upon his A League debut for the club.

He needs to be a better option than Hoff at the point because we need a better option than Hoff, We can't be giving the opposition a 8 game head start in to the season all because we relied on a stop gap at best Right F/B come striker to lead the line. Hoff just ain't accomplished enough in that position to be relying on him for a third of the season.

[Charlie Chan]

Jair needs to play at the point and we need speed on the flanks i would like to see Austin start

[Alton]

i want to see Jair up top, doesn't look fast enough for me out wide

He has to play up top, I rate Ernie but I thought playing him wide and Jackson at right back were poor decisions

[Maito Mitch]

What odds are being offered about Jair not being here after Christmas ? I hope Lawrie kept the receipt and that the store has a good returns policy.

I thought he actually looked quite good against Wanderers at Maitland. Then again I didn't have a great view but I still think he'll be a good pick up

[Imyourhero]

Jair up top, Austin out wide, Vujica in for Jackson

[Bon]

Jair up top, Austin out wide, Vujica in for Jackson

This.

[Jeterpool]

Jair up top, Austin out wide, Vujica in for Jackson

And I assume you're dropping Hoff to accomodate Austin?

[380]

And I assume you're dropping Hoff to accomodate Austin?


Yes.

[Imyourhero]

Correct

[Charlie Chan]

And I assume you're dropping Hoff to accomodate Austin?

HOFF is a great squaddie starting striker me think not

[MFKS]

HOFF is a great squaddie starting striker me think not

Bloke cost us a grand final by missing not 1 but 2 sitters

He aint a back up anything up front


Play him at Full Back or he rides the pine

He aint and will never be good enough at this level in the attascking roles

Move on

[StannyCFCJET]

Bloke cost us a grand final by missing not 1 but 2 sitters

He aint a back up anything up front


Play him at Full Back or he rides the pine

He aint and will never be good enough at this level in the attascking roles

Move on

He was good enough last season but lets ignore that

[MFKS]

He was good enough last season but lets ignore that

Good enough laat season??

In the finals he missed a hatful of chances

That isnt good enough

He is a fullback at HAL level and that is it

To be relying on playing him further forward is more of an indictment on our recruitment and current squad list

[380]

He was good enough last season but lets ignore that

Good enough for what last season ?. Nabbout carried the can for us in Roy's absence and Hoff chipped in with some.

You want Hoff to lead the line in Roy's absence ?. Nearly a third of the season with Hoff at the point ?.

Go watch a replay of the GF and then come back and tell us you want to give the likes of the two Melbourne clubs and the Smurfs the luxury of that sort of headstart because we played Hoff as a nine for the duration.

Like the member said if Hoff is our plan B at the point that is a poor reflection on Ernie and Lawrie, With an entire off season to address Roy's absence adequately.

[StannyCFCJET]

I'm saying Hoff was good enough to play in the front 4 last season and I'll stand by that

[380]

I'm saying Hoff was good enough to play in the front 4 last season and I'll stand by that

Me neither , more than happy for him to come off the bench at some stage during a game and fill a spot in the front four.

[plague]

Hoff rulz.
Maybe it's some of you blokes that suck.
Ever considered that?

[380]

Hoff rulz.
Maybe it's some of you blokes that suck.
Ever considered that?

yeh but nah.