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Jeterpool
23-10-2018, 09:44 PM
A-League 2018/19 Round 2 Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets
FIXTURE FACTS
Overall – 40 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 13, United Wins - 16, Drawn - 11
In Newcastle – 18 matches.
Jets Wins - 9, United Wins - 5, Drawn - 4
In Adelaide - 22 matches
Jets Wins - 4, United Wins - 11, Drawn - 7
Average Home A-League Crowd – 9864
Average Away A-League Crowd - 9699
Goals in Fixture
Jets – 42, United - 54
In Adelaide -
Jets – 21, United - 38
1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 18, United - 17
Cards in Fixture
Jets - 104 (101 yellow, 3 red), United 65 (62 yellow, 3 red)
Leading Scorers
Jets - Dimitri Petratos (1)
United – Scott Galloway (1)
Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (Kantarovski 62' , Kantarovski 89') - Adelaide United 5 (Adlung 15', Adlung 45+1', Kitto 68', Absalonsen 71', Cavsevic 79') at Coopers Stadium, A-League, Round 24, Season 2017/18
Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 24
Newcastle JetsAdelaide United
Jack DuncanPaul Izzo
Jason HoffmanMichael Marrone
Lachlan JacksonTaylor Regan
Nikolai Topor-StanleyJordan Elsey
Daniel GeorgievskiBen Garuccio
Steven UgarkovicIsaias
Ben KantarovskiNathan Konstandopoulos
Ronald VargasDaniel Adlung
Riley McGreeNikola Mileusnic
Patricio RodriguezJohan Absalonsen
Joe ChampnessDzengis Cavusevic
FIXTURE RECORDS
Biggest Win
Jets 4 (Kemp 12’og, Carle 22’, Zelic 68’, Carle 89’) – Adelaide 2 (Valkanis 38, Corbo 67’og) at Hindmarsh Stadium, Round 8, Season 2005/06, 14/10/2005.
Heaviest Defeat
Jets 0 – Adelaide 7 (Djite 2’, 54’, Carrusca 23’, 28’, Boogaard 35’, Cirio 70’, Isais 90+3’) at Hindmarsh Stadium, A-League Season 2014/15 Round 15, 24/01/2015.
Leading Scorers in fixture –
Jets - Joel Griffiths, Nick Carle, Mark Bridge, Matt Thompson, Andrew Nabbout, Ben Kantarovski (3)
United - Marcelo Carrusca (6)
2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS
NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss1100900000
3Jason Hoffman1101760000
4Nigel Boogaard1100900000
5Ben Kantarovski000000000
6Steven Ugarkovic1100900010
7Dimitri Petratos1100901000
8Jair Edmundo1101570000
9Roy O'Donovan000000000
10Ronald Vargas1100900000
11Mitch Austin1010140100
13Ivan Vujica1010260000
14Kaine Sheppard1010330010
16Nick Cowburn000000000
17Daniel Georgievski1100900000
18John Koutroumbis000000000
19Kosta Petratos000000000
20Lewis Italiano000000000
22Lachlan Jackson1101640000
23Matthew Ridenton1100900000
24Joe Champness000000000
28Patrick Langlois000000000
29Jake Adelson000000000
32Angus Thurgate000000000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley1100900000
COACHING
Coaches Head to Head – 3 matches
Ernie Merrick - 2 wins, Marco Kurz - 1 win, 0 drawn
Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –
Ernie Merrick - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (5 wins, 7 drawn and 5 losses = 29% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (2 wins, 2 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane - 1 match (1 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Adelaide United Coach Record – Marco Kurz 33% win ratio (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses)
TALKING POINTS:
General
It's been 9 years since the Jets defeated Adelaide away on a Friday night.
The Jets scored 2 goals against Adelaide in each of the last 2 fixtures between the clubs.
Adelaide have scored in their last 7 appearances against the Jets.
Newcastle have scored in 14 consecutive away games.
The Jets lmatch against Adelaide was a Friday night clash.
Players
The Jets had 4 debutants appear for the club in the A-League against Wellington.
Ben Kantarovvski has scored 3 of the last 4 goals for the Jets in Adelaide.
Newcastle Jets
Newcastle have won 1 Friday away game in the last 3 years. They haven't won in their last 6 away Friday night games.
plague
23-10-2018, 10:25 PM
Loose.
New coach to be unveiled in time for our 1st home game.
Goodwin to get at least 4.
belchardo
24-10-2018, 07:26 AM
can't believe you don't track secondary assist stats jeterpool.
can't believe you don't track secondary assist stats jeterpool.
I know, right? What an amateur... :gent:
StannyCFCJET
24-10-2018, 09:38 AM
What about evades
What about evades
What about duels won and lost
All the important shit needs including
**** it we will loose again
We're ****ing shit AGAiN
Cunning stunts
26-10-2018, 12:41 PM
i would be happy with this line up tonight
Moss
Ivan
Topa
Boogs
George
Kanta
Stevie
Dimi
Vargas
Hoff/Austin
Jair
StannyCFCJET
26-10-2018, 12:52 PM
i would be happy with this line up tonight
Moss
Ivan
Topa
Boogs
George
Kanta
Stevie
Dimi
Vargas
Hoff/Austin
Jair
Think Ridenton did enough to keep starting
i would be happy with this line up tonight
Moss
Ivan
Topa
Boogs
George
Kanta
Stevie
Dimi
Vargas
Hoff/Austin
Jair
I like it.. Kanta has to come back in (assuming he is fit)..
Maybe even bring Hoff on, off the bench, when Jair gets subbed due to fitness..
sorefootballer
26-10-2018, 06:35 PM
Bonus bet applied. Jets to win at 3.20
StannyCFCJET
26-10-2018, 08:00 PM
Jackson at FB no thanks.
Jetmaster
26-10-2018, 08:17 PM
Tense but expectant. Not confident but hopeful we turn it on.
After 10 mins on the backfoot we think..." not today" and start planning for next week.
Such is Jets fans life we only need 10 mins to work out if we will win or lose.
Tense but expectant. Not confident but hopeful we turn it on.
After 10 mins on the backfoot we think..." not today" and start planning for next week.
Such is Jets fans life we only need 10 mins to work out if we will win or lose.
10 ??
Can do it in under 5 really most weeks
We are very predictable
Except for those times we start like shit looking like we just met in the car park the opposition hammer us for 30/40mins and couldnt score in a brothel with a fistful of fifties
Then they grow weak as we come into the game and then run away with it
Happens 4 /5 times a season for us
High time Dimi was removed from set piece duties and it given to Ronny
Dimi about 0 from 1000 for us
Still bludging off that 1 free kick v VARtree a few years back
plague
26-10-2018, 09:17 PM
I dont bag players.
But
Just wondering how everyone is enjoying the Lachlan Jackson experience so far?
plague
26-10-2018, 09:18 PM
Vargas is a handsome dude isnt he.
I dont bag players.
But
Just wondering how everyone is enjoying the Lachlan Jackson experience so far?
I do
This Jair bloke
Any chance we can trade him for Usain Bolt??
We have been dead set stitched up here
plague
26-10-2018, 09:23 PM
Dont think hes been 'that' bad.
This Ridenton dude though.
The **** is going on there?
Roundball Enthusiast
26-10-2018, 09:39 PM
Vargas is a handsome dude isnt he.
Jair better looking, shame he's a shitter footballer though.
Roundball Enthusiast
26-10-2018, 09:40 PM
Dont think hes been 'that' bad.
This Ridenton dude though.
The **** is going on there?
I dont think we could identify anyone in a black shirt on the pitch atm as 'good'.
plague
26-10-2018, 09:45 PM
I dont think we could identify anyone in a black shirt on the pitch atm as 'good'.
Vargas, Dimi and Ugaboogaman.
Kill the rest with fire.
Dont think hes been 'that' bad.
This Ridenton dude though.
The **** is going on there?
Said it when we announced him that Ridenton was very average in a terrible team. As for Jackson the bloke looks dead set lost, he on par with Gallaway as one of the worst to ever play that position in a Jets shirt.
StannyCFCJET
26-10-2018, 09:56 PM
What has Vujica done to upset Ernie
weston
26-10-2018, 10:04 PM
High time Dimi was removed from set piece duties and it given to Ronny
Dimi about 0 from 1000 for us
Still bludging off that 1 free kick v VARtree a few years back
I’m agreeing let someone else take some. Stop shooting from 90% of free kicks within 30 metres of the goal. Mix it up.
Jetmaster
26-10-2018, 10:05 PM
Get Kanta on farken.
The Dunster
26-10-2018, 10:06 PM
Where is the peoples champ?
plague
26-10-2018, 10:07 PM
Jair better looking, shame he's a shitter footballer though.
Dear Foz nerdz please make a poll who more handsome Vargas or Jair.
and yes, we all know the correct answer is Griff, but let's aim for 2nd place.
sorefootballer
26-10-2018, 10:07 PM
Good
Retro Jet
26-10-2018, 10:08 PM
Vargas is a handsome dude isnt he.
Yep...and a killer smile after a goal too!
:brrr:
Without wishing to fap about us scoring etc
That goal was just proof that we have lost our way in our last dozen games
When we play at speed going forward we look great
We have spent most of our recenty games trying to pass our way through teams
**** off the tikkja takka shit and play to our strength
plague
26-10-2018, 10:10 PM
All you blokes who talked bad about the Hoff look like dickheads right now.
Trump.
Brexit.
Hoff.
Plague on the right side of history again.
The Dunster
26-10-2018, 10:16 PM
We have a Roy and Joey to come back yet so not too worried about how shit we are currently playing.
We need to be more direct
weston
26-10-2018, 10:17 PM
**** Goodwin. Never liked the guy.
Good work Boogaarrd
As for the build up was that Jair taking a dive??
plague
26-10-2018, 10:18 PM
Good header though.
Jets are gassed.
The Dunster
26-10-2018, 10:20 PM
Fark Goodwin is a soft khunt. Well done George
The Dunster
26-10-2018, 10:21 PM
We need GVE on the sideline to fark with his mind
**** you Hoffman
Hopeless as shit
All you blokes who talked bad about the Hoff look like dickheads right now.
Trump.
Brexit.
Hoff.
Plague on the right side of history again.
Wrong wrong wrong
boz-monaut
26-10-2018, 10:24 PM
commentators calling that a 'point blank save' rather than 'the ball came straight at him and he didn't have to ****ing move'
plague
26-10-2018, 10:25 PM
Wrong wrong wrong
Typical leftie comment.
plague
26-10-2018, 10:28 PM
Jair putting in a good effort I reckon.
The Dunster
26-10-2018, 10:28 PM
Ridenton looked spent 15 mins ago. Come on Kanta
Good news is Kanta is on to kick some one
Never thought i would see the day where Kanta coming in would be a ****ing positive
Jetmaster
26-10-2018, 10:34 PM
Stop giving the f#//&* ball away ffs!
The Dunster
26-10-2018, 10:36 PM
Kanta has been on for 5mins and looks spent already.
Imyourhero
26-10-2018, 10:37 PM
Getting killed in midfield
The Dunster
26-10-2018, 10:37 PM
Sell the club. We are shit.
Retro Jet
26-10-2018, 10:54 PM
Evans thought because Saddle Aid are red he had to play ManU extra time.
Bremsstrahlung
26-10-2018, 10:56 PM
George interview hahahaha
FAO Stanny
Hoffman cost us 2 points tonight
Add that to a GF and he just keeps building my case
Frodo
26-10-2018, 10:58 PM
Boogs is stealing a living yet again. Why did we sign him for another season of that crap?
We look so unfit, or lazy. No effort from anyone to actually win the ball or pressure the opposition. We seem to be walking around the pitch hoping that chances will present themselves. Even Dimi deserves to be dropped on current form, if we had anyone on the bench..
The Dunster
26-10-2018, 10:59 PM
Vargas can stay the rest should be on notice. Woefull effort. Far too much piss farting about rather than simply playing the ball forward quickly before the opposition defence can set themselves.
We don't have the skillset to play this slow build up shit.
Ernie can't be happy with the cheap turnovers either.
Frodo
26-10-2018, 11:00 PM
Adelaide losing it over the non penalty when they have an FFA final is 4 days is great tho. What a bunch of idiots. Sydney might not even need the Refs to.bwat them after watching that.
Frodo
26-10-2018, 11:02 PM
FAO Stanny
Hoffman cost us 2 points tonight
Add that to a GF and he just keeps building my case
Poor Hoffman is a fish out of water up top. I'd rather we play him in defence and played with Sheppard or Jair up top. At least we'd have 2 fullbacks playing fullback.
Ridenton looked spent 15 mins ago. Come on Kanta
Turning the ball over two dozen times a game will do that to ya.
Bench time for Ridenton, Hoff and Jackson and in Vujica, Austin and Kanta
Boogs is stealing a living yet again. Why did we sign him for another season of that crap?
Welcome to 3 to 4 years ago
Watch his work for the cross to Goodwin
Absolutely piss poor defending
Didnt even work hard to try and get to Goodwin
Just ball watching
Shouldnt be doing that as a senior player
Premy
26-10-2018, 11:10 PM
I thought players aren't allowed to tell refs to check the VAR
Frodo
26-10-2018, 11:31 PM
I thought players aren't allowed to tell refs to check the VAR
**Misread your post and this doesn't answer your question. Sorry Premy.**
Depends which day of the week it is. The commentators said that VAR checked and there was no issue. I thought the ref made a gesture to Isias that it had been checked and ok'd. But I have no idea how VAR works so don't trust me on it, honestly.
I thought players aren't allowed to tell refs to check the VAR
The way the VAR lottery works why wouldnt you pressurise the ref to have a look at it??
Anything can happen
Frodo
27-10-2018, 09:00 AM
Welcome to 3 to 4 years ago
Watch his work for the cross to Goodwin
Absolutely piss poor defending
Didnt even work hard to try and get to Goodwin
Just ball watching
Shouldnt be doing that as a senior player
There aren't that many things you and I agree on Membah. But informing the sheeple about Boogards shortcomings is one of them. I wouldn't mind him sitting on a bench coaching young players and transitioning into the backroom, but why we didn't look for another CB either in the offseason or before we resigned him for next year is worrying.
Couscous
27-10-2018, 09:06 AM
Goodwin's effusive celebration was disappointing given all that this club did for him, especially GVE at the start of his career.
Jetmaster
27-10-2018, 10:32 AM
Goodwin's effusive celebration was disappointing given all that this club did for him, especially GVE at the start of his career.
Good on him....unless you are at a club for a very long time I have no problem with ex players giving it the big ones. More modern PC respect crap.
Roy a case in point with his hatty....he loved it.
Bremsstrahlung
27-10-2018, 01:42 PM
Don’t really have a problem with players celebrating against old clubs. But I do notice when they don’t and I admit I have a little more respect for whoever they are.
Jair’s ball to Hoffman was divine. Shame he picked the only spot that meant he didn’t score.
Thought Ridenton played wel first half V Wellington, but if his trajectory continues he will be riding the pine soon enough.
Can’t believe there hasn’t been much more focus on Jair slipping over in the build up to their goal.
Imo if he doesn’t slip, old mate probably doesn’t put in such a decent cross for Goodwin because Jair would be closing him down.
Couscous
27-10-2018, 02:05 PM
Good on him....unless you are at a club for a very long time I have no problem with ex players giving it the big ones. More modern PC respect crap.
In this case, though, Newcastle Jets is Goodwin's mother, and GVE is his father, in football terms.
In this case, though, Newcastle Jets is Goodwin's mother, and GVE is his father, in football terms.
C'mon Gaz the kid had ability long before you got hold of him. And whats with your influence over the Reds style of play last night for the first 25min ?. Had GVE written all over it.
Don’t really have a problem with players celebrating against old clubs. But I do notice when they don’t and I admit I have a little more respect for whoever they are.
Jair’s ball to Hoffman was divine. Shame he picked the only spot that meant he didn’t score.
Thought Ridenton played wel first half V Wellington, but if his trajectory continues he will be riding the pine soon enough.
Can’t believe there hasn’t been much more focus on Jair slipping over in the build up to their goal.
Imo if he doesn’t slip, old mate probably doesn’t put in such a decent cross for Goodwin because Jair would be closing him down.
Fair call on Jair but other than that i reckon all his key measures would have been much much better than the previous week eh.
If Ernie continues with Hoff at the point crap get use to sitters being missed week after week. Note to Stanny i said at the point of attack got no problem with the bloke playing in a advanced role out wide. Just thought i would clarify before you go in to meltdown.
Ridenton was one of the Reds best players last night he completed so many passes to them.
StannyCFCJET
27-10-2018, 03:16 PM
Fair call on Jair but other than that i reckon all his key measures would have been much much better than the previous week eh.
If Ernie continues with Hoff at the point crap get use to sitters being missed week after week. Note to Stanny i said at the point of attack got no problem with the bloke playing in a advanced role out wide. Just thought i would clarify before you go in to meltdown.
Ridenton was one of the Reds best players last night he completed so many passes to them.
I actually agree I want Jair up top
Jetmaster
27-10-2018, 05:52 PM
I actually agree I want Jair up top
Maked sense. Jair was supposed to be the Nabbout replacement. Put him in the middle till Roy comes back.
Hoff showed he can provide the service last night, not the finish.
Hoffman needs to go back to Fullback
Our attack is being stunted by having Jackson as a Fullback
That is 1 side of the park the opposition can push up on us on as he aint gonna hurt them on the counter
Throw in on the right Dimi dont like to go wide but cut inside it is made for Hoffman to overlap from Right back
Besides stopping Hoffman butchering sitters it should help our general play no end as it will pose consequences for opposition if they push on us too much
StannyCFCJET
27-10-2018, 06:37 PM
Hoffman needs to go back to Fullback
Our attack is being stunted by having Jackson as a Fullback
That is 1 side of the park the opposition can push up on us on as he aint gonna hurt them on the counter
Throw in on the right Dimi dont like to go wide but cut inside it is made for Hoffman to overlap from Right back
Besides stopping Hoffman butchering sitters it should help our general play no end as it will pose consequences for opposition if they push on us too much
Bigger question, What has Vujica done to piss off Merrick
Bigger question, What has Vujica done to piss off Merrick
Jackson does a good job defensively as a full back
He kept their big name signing anonymous last night
He is though honking with the ball
Vujica is slow as and with his speed I am surprised he is making a living as a pro
StannyCFCJET
27-10-2018, 07:12 PM
Jackson does a good job defensively as a full back
He kept their big name signing anonymous last night
He is though honking with the ball
Vujica is slow as and with his speed I am surprised he is making a living as a pro
Vujica defends well and offers way more then Jackson going forward which is what you need in a Ernie team
Thomas477
27-10-2018, 08:54 PM
Throw Georgevski at LB and Hoffman at RB, unless we can get an Asian LB, which I wouldn’t be against. Would definitely help in the ACL
turbojetfireV8
27-10-2018, 11:03 PM
totally agree with question mark over what Ridenton adds to the team, at this point I am wondering if we can bring in Mullen instead as a special waver for Johnny K, even he would bring more to the team that what Riddy has to date, his runs on the wing and passing are better for a start... :popcorn:
StannyCFCJET
27-10-2018, 11:59 PM
totally agree with question mark over what Ridenton adds to the team, at this point I am wondering if we can bring in Mullen instead as a special waver for Johnny K, even he would bring more to the team that what Riddy has to date, his runs on the wing and passing are better for a start... :popcorn:
You want Mullen? Ok enough internet for me
Goodwin has always been good. Was shit seeing him head one past the ol jets but **** if anyone here didn’t think he would then you may as well go support tommy oar and Andrew Hoole. Petratos has been absolute garbage and so has Georgevski. Hold on to the ball. Actually, can’t think of many who have been good. For the sake of trying to be like Merrick, I’ll say, maybe, nah and I was trying, there was no one who could hold the ball and/or penetrate.
Vujica defends well and offers way more then Jackson going forward which is what you need in a Ernie team
King Vuj is slow
Merrick for some reason likes to play Jackson against quick wide players
Make of that what you will
Maybe Ernie feels we have enough options in our FB positions and is frustrating Vujica into asking for a move to another club under this newly created Under 23 rule.
What Vujica lacks in speed he more than makes up for upstairs in regards to having a brain for that position. Vujica plays with a sense of urgency, Jackson looks like he just climbed out of the farter half the time and in need of a GPS to get his bearings.
plague
28-10-2018, 08:18 PM
anyone who thinks that Ivan is demonstrably slower than Jackson and that is a difference in their performance is kidding themselves.
Merrick included.
StannyCFCJET
28-10-2018, 09:06 PM
Ivan provides a threat and assists from LB, jackson does not
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