18/19 HAL Round 4 | Newcastle Jets v Sydney FC | Sat 10th Nov 2018 750pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2018/19 Round 4 Newcastle Jets v Sydney FC

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 41 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 7, FC Wins - 25, Drawn - 9


In Newcastle – 20 matches.
Jets Wins - 4, FC Wins - 12, Drawn - 4
In Sydney - 21 matches
Jets Wins - 3, FC Wins - 13, Drawn - 5

Average Home A-League Crowd – 12554
Average Away A-League Crowd - 14304

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 40, FC - 66
In Newcastle -
Jets – 19, FC - 31

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 12, FC - 26

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 74 (70 yellow, 4 red), FC 79 (72 yellow, 7 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - (1 point from last 9)
FC - (7 points from last 9)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (D Petratos 43' pen, Nabbout 56') - Sydney FC 1 (Bobo 52') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 22, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 22

Newcastle JetsSydney FC
Jack DuncanAndrew Redmayne
Jason HoffmanLuke Wilkshire
Nigel BoogaardAlex Wilkinson
Nikolai Topor-StanleyJordy Buijs
Daniel GeorgievskiDavid Carney
Steven UgarkovicJoshua Brillante
Wayne BrownBrandon O'Neill
Dimitri PetratosMilos Ninkovic
Riley McGreeAlex Brosque
Andrew NabboutAdrian Mierzejewski
Roy O'DonovanBobo



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 5 (Topor-Stanley 22’, Zadkovich 29’, Brockie 38’, Brockie 87’, Abbas 90’) – Sydney FC 2 (Moriyasu 47’, Beauchamp 71’), Round 7, Season 2011/12 at Sydney Football Stadium, 05/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Sydney FC 4 (Brosque 13’, Brosque 40’, Milligan 76 og’, Bridge 85’), Round 21, Season 2008/09 at Sydney Football Stadium, 25/01/2009.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Milton Rodriguez, Ryan Griffiths, Jeremy Brockie, Michael Bridges, Jobe Wheelhouse (3)
FC - Alex Brosque (12)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss33002700000
3Jason Hoffman33022410110
4Nigel Boogaard33002700010
5Ben Kantarovski2020280000
6Steven Ugarkovic33012650020
7Dimitri Petratos33002701000
8Jair Edmundo33031990000
9Roy O'Donovan000000000
10Ronald Vargas33002701000
11Mitch Austin3030520100
13Ivan Vujica1010260000
14Kaine Sheppard2020480010
16Nick Cowburn101050000
17Daniel Georgievski33012590010
18John Koutroumbis000000000
19Kosta Petratos000000000
20Lewis Italiano000000000
22Lachlan Jackson33012440000
23Matthew Ridenton33012530010
24Joe Champness000000000
28Patrick Langlois000000000
29Jake Adelson000000000
32Angus Thurgate000000000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley33002700000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Steve Corica - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33%% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 win, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 18 match (4 wins, 3 drawn and 11 losses = 22% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 wins, 2 drawn, 0 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 win, 4 drawn, 1 loss = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 losses = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No matches
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)




TALKING POINTS:

General

The Jets have lost, and been kept scoreless, in 4 of their last 5 home matches.
Newcastle have conceded the first goal in 7 of the last 10 matches.
The Jets start to this campaign is the equal worst in terms of points - equal with season 2 (06/07) and season 10 (14/15). Goal difference in Season 06/07 was -5, Season 14/15 was -4. This season is -2.
Under Chris Beath, the Jets have had 1 victory in the last 10 matches he's officiated.
The Jets are scoring a a rate 3 times less than last season.



Players

Lachlan Jackson will make his 50th Jets A-League appearance this weekend.

[MFKS]

A-League 2018/19 Round 4 Newcastle Jets v Sydney FC

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 41 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 7, FC Wins - 25, Drawn - 9


In Newcastle – 20 matches.
Jets Wins - 4, FC Wins - 12, Drawn - 4
In Sydney - 21 matches
Jets Wins - 3, FC Wins - 13, Drawn - 5

Average Home A-League Crowd – 12554
Average Away A-League Crowd - 14304

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 40, FC - 66
In Newcastle -
Jets – 19, FC - 31

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 12, FC - 26

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 74 (70 yellow, 4 red), FC 79 (72 yellow, 7 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - (1 point from last 9)
FC - (7 points from last 9)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (D Petratos 43' pen, Nabbout 56') - Sydney FC 1 (Bobo 52') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 22, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 22

Newcastle JetsSydney FC
Jack DuncanAndrew Redmayne
Jason HoffmanLuke Wilkshire
Nigel BoogaardAlex Wilkinson
Nikolai Topor-StanleyJordy Buijs
Daniel GeorgievskiDavid Carney
Steven UgarkovicJoshua Brillante
Wayne BrownBrandon O'Neill
Dimitri PetratosMilos Ninkovic
Riley McGreeAlex Brosque
Andrew NabboutAdrian Mierzejewski
Roy O'DonovanBobo



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 5 (Topor-Stanley 22’, Zadkovich 29’, Brockie 38’, Brockie 87’, Abbas 90’) – Sydney FC 2 (Moriyasu 47’, Beauchamp 71’), Round 7, Season 2011/12 at Sydney Football Stadium, 05/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Sydney FC 4 (Brosque 13’, Brosque 40’, Milligan 76 og’, Bridge 85’), Round 21, Season 2008/09 at Sydney Football Stadium, 25/01/2009.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Milton Rodriguez, Ryan Griffiths, Jeremy Brockie, Michael Bridges, Jobe Wheelhouse (3)
FC - Alex Brosque (12)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss33002700000
3Jason Hoffman33022410110
4Nigel Boogaard33002700010
5Ben Kantarovski2020280000
6Steven Ugarkovic33012650020
7Dimitri Petratos33002701000
8Jair Edmundo33031990000
9Roy O'Donovan000000000
10Ronald Vargas33002701000
11Mitch Austin3030520100
13Ivan Vujica1010260000
14Kaine Sheppard2020480010
16Nick Cowburn101050000
17Daniel Georgievski33012590010
18John Koutroumbis000000000
19Kosta Petratos000000000
20Lewis Italiano000000000
22Lachlan Jackson33012440000
23Matthew Ridenton33012530010
24Joe Champness000000000
28Patrick Langlois000000000
29Jake Adelson000000000
32Angus Thurgate000000000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley33002700000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Steve Corica - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33%% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 win, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 18 match (4 wins, 3 drawn and 11 losses = 22% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 wins, 2 drawn, 0 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 win, 4 drawn, 1 loss = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 losses = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No matches
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)




TALKING POINTS:

General

The Jets have lost, and been kept scoreless, in 4 of their last 5 home matches.
Newcastle have conceded the first goal in 7 of the last 10 matches.
The Jets start to this campaign is the equal worst in terms of points - equal with season 2 (06/07) and season 10 (14/15). Goal difference in Season 06/07 was -5, Season 14/15 was -4. This season is -2.
Under Chris Beath, the Jets have had 1 victory in the last 10 matches he's officiated.
The Jets are scoring a a rate 3 times less than last season.



Players

Lachlan Jackson will make his 50th Jets A-League appearance this weekend.


Club ought to be sending in the heavies to fix up Beath


The only time we won with Chris Beath was last time we played Blue Aids and the **** sent Roy off too

Prick of the highest order

[belchardo]

i don't like being defeatist, but i don't see us even getting close in this match.

[The Dunster]

You couldn't get enough money on Sydney in this game. Absolutely no chance if we apply the same tactics and personnel as the last few games.

Only good news is we seem to have a few players putting their hands up to be Foz whipping boys - which at least gives us something to look forward to for the season.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Lose 2-0. Fold the club.

[Jetmaster]

Kanta for Sheepman
Jair at the point
Autism on the left
Hoff to right back to partner George in the left and provide aggro.

Someone to kick the Fondue on the shin in the first 5 and cop a yellow.

Crowd gets involved....Mosque gets the shits.

Recipe for a win right there.

[plague]

Loose.
But the big winner will be Plague who has taken the $2 on offer for Sydney.

[Jetmaster]

Loose.
But the big winner will be Plague who has taken the $2 on offer for Sydney.

Pay off the mortgage?

[plague]

Pay off the mortgage?

What's a mortgage?

[The Dunster]

What's a mortgage?

Well done Plague.

[furns]

Kanta for Sheepman
Jair at the point
Autism on the left
Hoff to right back to partner George in the left and provide aggro.

Haha, this was literally my pitch on the preview podcast we recorded tonight. And I hadnt read the foz in a few days so I didnt steal your idea JM :)

[StannyCFCJET]

I want Vujica at LB again, Dont care how much Merrick says it Jacko at Fullback doesnt work

[The Dunster]

I want Vujica at LB again, Dont care how much Merrick says it Jacko at Fullback doesnt work

Based on last weeks game form I'd say Jackson would be one of the last players I'd consider dropping from the starting lineup. Defensively he did well and he also managed to get forward and was far from the worst on the park with the ball at his feet or indeed passing wise.

We lost the game in and through the middle - that's where I'd be making the changes.

[StannyCFCJET]

Based on last weeks game form I'd say Jackson would be one of the last players I'd consider dropping from the starting lineup. Defensively he did well and he also managed to get forward and was far from the worst on the park with the ball at his feet or indeed passing wise.

We lost the game in and through the middle - that's where I'd be making the changes.

1 good game out of how many he's played at FB?

[The Dunster]

1 good game out of how many he's played at FB?

It's that sort of logic that got Timmy Cahill on the plane for the last world Cup. It didn't work.

[StannyCFCJET]

It's that sort of logic that got Timmy Cahill on the plane for the last world Cup. It didn't work.

Cahill was selected for marketing, Jackson is a CB and we have a LB riding the pine with no explanation to why

[plague]

Cahill was selected for marketing, Jackson is a CB and we have a LB riding the pine with no explanation to why

Jackson is also in the team for marketing.
Word is Coles have rebranded all their bottle shops 'Lachieland' in order to cash in on the craze.

[Jeterpool]

Jackson is also in the team for marketing.
Word is Coles have rebranded all their bottle shops 'Lachieland' in order to cash in on the craze.

You can do better than that

[Bon]

Based on last weeks game form I'd say Jackson would be one of the last players I'd consider dropping from the starting lineup. Defensively he did well and he also managed to get forward and was far from the worst on the park with the ball at his feet or indeed passing wise.

We lost the game in and through the middle - that's where I'd be making the changes.

I agree.. I thought he had a decent game against Victree..
Georgievski on the other hand, what has happened to that bloke this year??

[Jeterpool]

I agree.. I thought he had a decent game against Victree..
Georgievski on the other hand, what has happened to that bloke this year??

Got married in the off season :rof:

[plague]

You can do better than that
You think I have standards?

I reside at the bottom, anything that hits higher is a bonus.

[pv4]

I reside at the bottom, anything that hits higher is a bonus.

I love when you quote my family crest.

[MFKS]

I want Vujica at LB again, Dont care how much Merrick says it Jacko at Fullback doesnt work

In theory I agree with the idea of removing Jackson from Left Back and putting someone else there

Based on what he has done the last 2 weeks defensively you are smoking crack

The bloke has more than adequately done his job even if he offers little in attack and thus deserves to keep the gig for now

You are though 100% wrong in where our problems lie

If anyone needs dropping it is
Hoffman for being useless as a striker I know you love him but as a 9 he is ****ing woeful
Jair for just being his usual trash self and more importantly both Steven Ugarkovic and Matthew Ridemton

Everyone has been haply to hammer Ridenton and rightfully so but lets have a close look at Stevie Us efforts as well
He is also losing us the battle in the centre of the park
This is a repetitive theme with him through his career and he needs to sort this out

If anything I am dropping Hoffman from striker for Shephard and at least playing for 60/70mins with a ****ing striker for a change
I am also putting Kanta in midfield just to kick 7 shades of shit out of anything in sky blue and putting Johnny K in there alongside him
Cancer or not the bloke would offer more than Ridenton and Sugar have all season

On another note how did Hazard go in the UCL?? I cant seem to find how a superstar of world football went

[StannyCFCJET]

In theory I agree with the idea of removing Jackson from Left Back and putting someone else there

Based on what he has done the last 2 weeks defensively you are smoking crack

The bloke has more than adequately done his job even if he offers little in attack and thus deserves to keep the gig for now

You are though 100% wrong in where our problems lie

If anyone needs dropping it is
Hoffman for being useless as a striker I know you love him but as a 9 he is ****ing woeful
Jair for just being his usual trash self and more importantly both Steven Ugarkovic and Matthew Ridemton

Everyone has been haply to hammer Ridenton and rightfully so but lets have a close look at Stevie Us efforts as well
He is also losing us the battle in the centre of the park
This is a repetitive theme with him through his career and he needs to sort this out

If anything I am dropping Hoffman from striker for Shephard and at least playing for 60/70mins with a ****ing striker for a change
I am also putting Kanta in midfield just to kick 7 shades of shit out of anything in sky blue and putting Johnny K in there alongside him
Cancer or not the bloke would offer more than Ridenton and Sugar have all season

On another note how did Hazard go in the UCL?? I cant seem to find how a superstar of world football went

Too busy being the best player in the prem to worry about a small competition such as the UCL, The big boys play on Thursdays not Wednesdays

[plague]

Are they combining the RAAF day with Rememberence Day this round?

[MFKS]

Are they combining the RAAF day with Rememberence Day this round?

That why we are paying a Gypo CEO the big $$ to get these marketing tie ins in place

[The Dunster]

Commentary less than a minute in and foc commentary wank fest over Sydney FC is in full swing.

[belchardo]

i'm starting a drinking game. one shot for every cross that our player kicks straight into the first defender.

will be shit-faced by the 20 minute mark.

[The Dunster]

Refereeing is horrible. If we touch Sydney its a free kick. If they foul us in the penalty area uts play on.

Farking disgrace

[The Dunster]

Where the **** eas the VAR for the foul on Hoffman?

[Hunter403]

We seem to be just hanging in so far

[Hunter403]

Moss = Kennedy

[StannyCFCJET]

**** Jackson why go that central when your a FB

[The Dunster]

Moss can **** off. Useless oxygen thief.

Jackson in no man's land didn't help either.

[belchardo]

**** Jackson why go that central when your a FB

nah, jackson did what he had to there. jair should have tracked grant. moss shouldn't have cocked up the save.

[StannyCFCJET]

nah, jackson did what he had to there. jair should have tracked grant. moss shouldn't have cocked up the save.

Wrong a LB should never be that infield almost in front of Toppa

[belchardo]

Wrong a LB should never be that infield almost in front of Toppa

sorry, i stand corrected. he should totally have hung out wide and let le fondre (? not sure who it was) have free range at the top of the box.

[The Dunster]

Georgevski has been a mere shadow of his usual standard.

[StannyCFCJET]

Pretty sure Toppa had le fondre

[belchardo]

i might add 'another useless floaty ball' into my drinking game.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jair is wank

[Hunter403]

As much as I hate the Smurfs, jeez they make us look very ordinary

[belchardo]

we shoud wear the knights 'mining' strip. we're already doing a pretty good impression of traffic cones, might as well look the part.

[StannyCFCJET]

We are back to long balls because our front 4 wont come deep for the ball and all 4 stand on the last defenders.

[plague]

Boogaard sux.
Kanta is at least having a dig but he left Oneill alone on the goal.

[The Dunster]

On a positive note as long as Kanta is fit Ridenton should never get a game.

[StannyCFCJET]

Boogaard sux.
Kanta is at least having a dig but he left Oneill alone on the goal.

Kanta has been our best

[Jetmaster]

Kanta has been our best

Agree.

Might be nearly time to cash in on Dimi in January...he is close to our worst tonight.

[Hunter403]

Kanta def our best.

[StannyCFCJET]

Agree.

Might be nearly time to cash in on Dimi in January...he is close to our worst tonight.

Hes back to a zillion touches before passing or dribbling

[belchardo]

what the hell was jair doing then? pass the bloody thing! or shoot!

[StannyCFCJET]

How are we out of gas on 60 mins and how Hasnt Ernie made at least 2 changes yet

[The Dunster]

15 free kicks to 6.

Sydney live or die by that statistic every week. It makes them look a lot better than they are.

[Hunter403]

At least Sheppard makes runs like a 9. Hoff just not a 9

[belchardo]

not saying it was a penalty, but there is definitely contact there. what the hell are slater and hill looking at?

[belchardo]

"not quite strong enough to keep his feet". jesus simon, bit hard to hold your feet when somebody is dragging you down by your arm.

[The Dunster]

If Sydney go down it's a foul. If Newcastle go down it is simulation?

Get ****ed Simon Hill you imposter.

[The Dunster]

How is that not a penalty for a oush in the box by Wilkinshit.

[belchardo]

**** yeah. finally, a decent cross!

[belchardo]

How is that not a penalty for a oush in the box by Wilkinshit.

ball wasn't in play.

[The Dunster]

**** you Simon Hill.

Goal Cowburn!!!!!!!!

[Hunter403]

We are a different side with Thurgate and Sheppard running lines like real strikers

[The Dunster]

5mins added. Shoyld be enough to get SydneyFC a penalty.

[The Dunster]

Dimi's set peices have been terrible

[StannyCFCJET]

Dimi's set peices have been terrible

Hasnt scored a free kick in two seasons

[StannyCFCJET]

That feels like a win but we are miles off the pace

[The Dunster]

Refereeing saves Sydney FC once again.
The foul count was an absolute joke.

[Hunter403]

Ernie has to give up on Hoffy at 9. Just not working. Stubborn bloody Scotsman

[StannyCFCJET]

Ernie has to give up on Hoffy at 9. Just not working. Stubborn bloody Scotsman

Jair and Jackson LB as well plz

[MFKS]

The decision to not play Shephard as the starting striker needs to be looked at ASAP

We cant play with no striker offering theeat around the box
We cant play with no width with Dimi and Jair offering no natural width
We cant play with 2 fullbacks who contribute little in attack

This is actually forcing our hand to play the shite possession playing through them style we are


Defensively we are reasonably solid but our atrack is honkingly bad


Bert really needs to PLEASE ****ING EXPLAIN what the **** he was thinking not bringing a striker in with Roys suspension
It is ****ing killing us this decision

[plague]

i went to the football tonight.
here are some thoughts.
I love Hoff.
Hoff is an A-League level player.
Hoff cant play the point.


but.

you know what.
**** Roy O'Donovan.
and **** all you wankers that want our blokes to "bleed for the shirt", "stick a boot in" blah blah blah.
because when you have a bloke who cant control his temper and repeatedly carries on like a cockhead in a salary capped league, you end up with a fullback playing striker.
so Roy Odonovan should feel a bucketload of guilt for what our team is going through right now. but ive no doubt he'll try and "repay the fanz" by carrying on being a complete moron on the pitch.


now.
id love to see Thurgate get a start next week.
Jair is better than you are giving him credit for.
Vargas is a beautiful footballer to watch go around.
Every time i see kanta play i am saddened by what injuries have cost him.
Ugaboogaman is an infinitely better player with Kanta beside him.
im happy for Cowburn.
more people should be going to the football.

[Hunter403]

i went to the football tonight.
here are some thoughts.
I love Hoff.
Hoff is an A-League level player.
Hoff cant play the point.


but.

you know what.
**** Roy O'Donovan.
and **** all you wankers that want our blokes to "bleed for the shirt", "stick a boot in" blah blah blah.
because when you have a bloke who cant control his temper and repeatedly carries on like a cockhead in a salary capped league, you end up with a fullback playing striker.
so Roy Odonovan should feel a bucketload of guilt for what our team is going through right now. but ive no doubt he'll try and "repay the fanz" by carrying on being a complete moron on the pitch.


now.
id love to see Thurgate get a start next week.
Jair is better than you are giving him credit for.
Vargas is a beautiful footballer to watch go around.
Every time i see kanta play i am saddened by what injuries have cost him.
Ugaboogaman is an infinitely better player with Kanta beside him.
im happy for Cowburn.
more people should be going to the football.

This

[380]

Jair is wank

The only wanks at the Jets at present are our coach and CEO for having all the time in the world to address our need for a goalscorer at the club in light of Roy's situation and the best they come up with is Hoff.

[380]

Wrong a LB should never be that infield almost in front of Toppa

This , Jackson wasn't even in the same postcode. Proof is Ernie giving him the chat on the way back for the restart.

[baldrick]

i went to the football tonight.
here are some thoughts.
I love Hoff.
Hoff is an A-League level player.
Hoff cant play the point.


but.

you know what.
**** Roy O'Donovan.
and **** all you wankers that want our blokes to "bleed for the shirt", "stick a boot in" blah blah blah.
because when you have a bloke who cant control his temper and repeatedly carries on like a cockhead in a salary capped league, you end up with a fullback playing striker.
so Roy Odonovan should feel a bucketload of guilt for what our team is going through right now. but ive no doubt he'll try and "repay the fanz" by carrying on being a complete moron on the pitch.


now.
id love to see Thurgate get a start next week.
Jair is better than you are giving him credit for.
Vargas is a beautiful footballer to watch go around.
Every time i see kanta play i am saddened by what injuries have cost him.
Ugaboogaman is an infinitely better player with Kanta beside him.
im happy for Cowburn.
more people should be going to the football.

I hate to agree with Plague, but I agree with Plague..

[StannyCFCJET]

Plauge please how has Jair shown anything to warrant any credit

[Jetmaster]

Just watching it again now. At end the Fox panel interview Ernie. Scott Miller visibly shakes his head at Tara and is the only one of the four not to ask a question....hmmmm.

[plague]

Plauge please how has Jair shown anything to warrant any credit

gave width, first touch was excellent, hold up play was solid.

now, consider that as a wide man you want your striker making runs into space, and your fullback overlapping.

go back and look at how many times Hoff and Jackson did that for him.

there was a hilarious moment in the 2nd half where he had the ball in the corner of the 18 yd box. he held the ball patiently waiting, waiting for either his fullback to overlap or his striker to make a run. neither happened. but all the fools around me were screaming at him to just step back and put it in the top corner like all the pros do.

gosh darn it was embarrassing listening to it.

cant believe in the same breath you blokes are baggig Jair yet wondering whats gone wrong with Dimi.
its the same problem. there are no options.
Merrick has to fix that. then yeah, if the 'wide' men cant hit strikers on the move then hook them. but if you all thought that was the case tonight then y'all were watching a different game to me.

[plague]

I hate to agree with Plague, but I agree with Plague..

why you hate being correct and right all the time?
im only here to help my brother.

[StannyCFCJET]

gave width, first touch was excellent, hold up play was solid.

now, consider that as a wide man you want your striker making runs into space, and your fullback overlapping.

go back and look at how many times Hoff and Jackson did that for him.

there was a hilarious moment in the 2nd half where he had the ball in the corner of the 18 yd box. he held the ball patiently waiting, waiting for either his fullback to overlap or his striker to make a run. neither happened. but all the fools around me were screaming at him to just step back and put it in the top corner like all the pros do.

gosh darn it was embarrassing listening to it.

cant believe in the same breath you blokes are baggig Jair yet wondering whats gone wrong with Dimi.
its the same problem. there are no options.
Merrick has to fix that. then yeah, if the 'wide' men cant hit strikers on the move then hook them. but if you all thought that was the case tonight then y'all were watching a different game to me.

Jair isnt making any runs either and he isnt shooting or beating his man

[Jetmaster]

And god I hate being told by a knob with a mic to stand up, sit down and make noize for my Noocastle Jets....ffs.

[plague]

Jair isnt making any runs either and he isnt shooting or beating his man

well geez, he should be pretty easy to drop then huh.i mean, a multiple GF winning coach should be able to spot such fundamental flaws yeah?

unless of course, its 'you' that doesnt know what youre talking about..........

[MFKS]

well geez, he should be pretty easy to drop then huh.i mean, a multiple GF winning coach should be able to spot such fundamental flaws yeah?

unless of course, its 'you' that doesnt know what youre talking about..........

Yet the same bloke cant spot that Jackson doesnt make those runs as a full back and keeps picking him there
Yet the same bloke cant spot that Hoffman aint a strikers arsehole yet keeps picking him there
Yet the same bloke cant spot Johnny Ks ability and build a side around him as the focal point
Yet the same bloke got tactically outwitted by Kevin Muscat of all people costing himself another GF win
Yet the same bloke keeps picking Boogaard in the side


What you talking about??

[Bremsstrahlung]

Thought Moss was poor for the goal.

Brosque is a ****

Hoff ain’t a striker but I feel for him being shaft into the position.
Jair ain’t a winger, but still a decent player we could utilise better.

Thurgate should be given a few cracks in the coming weeks.

Ugar was one of our best, esp first half. Him and Kanta did really well I thought.


Dimi just isn’t clicking atm. Looks slow, bad touch, trying to do too much. Never thought I’d say it but hopefully some time with Graham Arnold will help him. Not so much Arnold, but being in the national team set up.

[Jeterpool]

And god I hate being told by a knob with a mic to stand up, sit down and make noize for my Noocastle Jets....ffs.

Me too. It's embarrassing and actually disrupted the atmosphere that generating at those moments..

Then Lawrie taking the mic to chant at the end...hmmmmm

[Jeterpool]

Also Shaun Evans is a honkingly bad referee.

And it's like everyone has to rollout the red carpet and bow down to Sydney fc when they come to town.

[baldrick]

why you hate being correct and right all the time?
im only here to help my brother.

I thought I made a mistake once. But I was wrong.

If it's any consolation, I'm agreeing with you a lot these days.

[Jetmaster]

Me too. It's embarrassing and actually disrupted the atmosphere that generating at those moments..

Then Lawrie taking the mic to chant at the end...hmmmmm

In the last five minutes the crowd was coming into it like the same game last year but it got distracted by the announcements.

When the "jump" was ordered sure Bay 1 does a mean pogo. But....most of the ones jumping are kids and with their parents etc giggling at the sight it was very noticeable that the emotion building was dissipated.

And then to tell the crowd to "stand up" AGAIN in the 90th minute was bizarre. The chant was just dumb...didnt know it was Lawrie. When our fans are roused they are as good as any....let them be.

[Hunter403]

Found it hard to believe we have Brosque done much room last night. He loves playing us: scores almost every time it seems. Possibly understandable, as maybe our boys confused him with the referee.

[The Dunster]

Found it hard to believe we have Brosque done much room last night. He loves playing us: scores almost every time it seems. Possibly understandable, as maybe our boys confused him with the referee.

It was painful watching his post match interview and not being able to actual knock him out on the spot. Whining little **** that he is.

In saying that it makes it a lot easier to hate Sydney with the likes of Brosque playing for them - which makes me happy.

[StannyCFCJET]

90th min foul Boogs tries to talk to ref told to go away. Brusque yelling at ref all night nothing happens. So bullshit

[Mark325]

I swear in the lead-up to signing Jair we were looking for a dude who is a winger first but can also play striker if needed, just like what nabbout did last season but we have yet to employ him in that spot.

Dimi has no idea what's going on anymore, we just drifts all across the park with no structure at all. I'm almost wondering if we'd be better off putting him at CAM & putting Vargas on the wing or something instead.

Put Hoff at RB, put George at LB, put either Austin or preferably Thurgate at LW, Dimi at CAM, Vargas RW & put Jair up at centre of attack

[Tommyjet]

gave width, first touch was excellent, hold up play was solid.

now, consider that as a wide man you want your striker making runs into space, and your fullback overlapping.

go back and look at how many times Hoff and Jackson did that for him.

there was a hilarious moment in the 2nd half where he had the ball in the corner of the 18 yd box. he held the ball patiently waiting, waiting for either his fullback to overlap or his striker to make a run. neither happened. but all the fools around me were screaming at him to just step back and put it in the top corner like all the pros do.

gosh darn it was embarrassing listening to it.

cant believe in the same breath you blokes are baggig Jair yet wondering whats gone wrong with Dimi.
its the same problem. there are no options.
Merrick has to fix that. then yeah, if the 'wide' men cant hit strikers on the move then hook them. but if you all thought that was the case tonight then y'all were watching a different game to me.

This ×1000.

[Tommyjet]

Also Shaun Evans is a honkingly bad referee.

And it's like everyone has to rollout the red carpet and bow down to Sydney fc when they come to town.

Double standards from start to finish

[380]

I swear in the lead-up to signing Jair we were looking for a dude who is a winger first but can also play striker if needed, just like what nabbout did last season but we have yet to employ him in that spot.

Dimi has no idea what's going on anymore, we just drifts all across the park with no structure at all. I'm almost wondering if we'd be better off putting him at CAM & putting Vargas on the wing or something instead.

Put Hoff at RB, put George at LB, put either Austin or preferably Thurgate at LW, Dimi at CAM, Vargas RW & put Jair up at centre of attack

You are correct that is exactly how the signing off Jair was described to us. I noted on social media last evening many cracks at Hoff but this not on Hoff as such but lay very much on Ernie and Lawrie for the poor planning , selecting of players and there starting positions.

Watched the replay and twice Jair had the ball on the edge of the box within moments of each other and Plague is right the first time all those in blue shirts anywhere near him just stood still like they had lead in there boots. Sweet f&*k all movement.

Lawrie and Ernie just taking the piss and treating us like uneducated mugs these first 4 rounds with the way make up of the team.

[Tommyjet]

We are crowding the middle too much in attack and our fullbacks aren't using the space out wide. Dimi needs to be more versatile and spend a bit more time near the sideline and stop crowding Ronny's space. Dimi has been way too predictable this season.
Jairs potential is plain to see, problem is the neanderthals of the hunter only recognise it if you flailing shots into row z occasionally.

[The Dunster]

Just watched Coricas post match presser - he was talking about them being dominant and saying Jets were only capable of long ball tactics - his facial expressions and body language though tell a different story.

They looked done in the final 10 mins to me and the fouls and time wasting are proof enough they were hanging on rather than playing for a win.

He was a dickhead as a player, and an even bigger one as a coach.

[Jetmaster]

Saw it against us, Adelaide and the Gypos last season. Get into them with a bit of mongrel and they have good cry, especially Mosque.

[Mark325]

Dimi needs to be more versatile and spend a bit more time near the sideline and stop crowding Ronny's space. Dimi has been way too predictable this season.

This is what has me feeling that maybe they need to swap positions. I think Vargas out wide would cause equal amounts of damage, we'd have a guy who actually sticks to the sideline more unlike dimi and it allows Dimi a bit more space and him to float around without being as costly to the one side like he was last night

[Tommyjet]

This is what has me feeling that maybe they need to swap positions. I think Vargas out wide would cause equal amounts of damage, we'd have a guy who actually sticks to the sideline more unlike dimi and it allows Dimi a bit more space and him to float around without being as costly to the one side like he was last night

Yeah I think Vargas would be a lot more aware positionally

[The Dunster]

Dimi is a great footballer but he needs to be more versatile. Vargas is the benchmark for our team [if not the league] and we should set up how ever best suits him.

[plague]

You are correct that is exactly how the signing off Jair was described to us. I noted on social media last evening many cracks at Hoff but this not on Hoff as such but lay very much on Ernie and Lawrie for the poor planning , selecting of players and there starting positions.

was going to type things but here it is already so now ima crack a beer and wait for the gypos to get a whoopin'.

[380]

We have the best #10 in the comp by a country mile and incompetent management has failed him the first 4 rounds.

[mic22]

Am I the only one concerned about Topor?
This year he's been clumsy at least 2-3 times per game (see the missed header that gave LeFondre a great chance in the first half). He also was in charge of Brosq**t when he scored.
Boogs was great defensively, also thanks to the work of Kanta, immense yesterday (just don't let him try long passes...).
Can't understand a game plan based on shooting long balls to Hoffman: FFS we have players that are more than capable of building play from the back, and we rely on this stupid strategy resulting in the ball handed to the opposition every single time.
I think Jackson played a good game, yes he was out of position for their goal but he defended well and had a few good moments building play.
The real issue here is the lack of movement up front: Jair, Vargas and Dimi speak different languages at the moment, can't really blame it on Hoff (who's NOT a striker) if there is no communication behind him.
Dimi is a bit of a mistery right now: however, look at the little chat he and Cowburn had before the goal... looks like Cowburn told him exactly what he was going to do, and Dimi put the ball in the perfect place - that was great to see.
Georgievski is a bit lost on the right... I'd move him to the left, Hoff RB.

And please PLEASE enough with the "Stand up - jump" BS

[The Dunster]

Am I the only one concerned about Topor?
This year he's been clumsy at least 2-3 times per game (see the missed header that gave LeFondre a great chance in the first half). He also was in charge of Brosq**t when he scored.
Boogs was great defensively, also thanks to the work of Kanta, immense yesterday (just don't let him try long passes...).
Can't understand a game plan based on shooting long balls to Hoffman: FFS we have players that are more than capable of building play from the back, and we rely on this stupid strategy resulting in the ball handed to the opposition every single time.
I think Jackson played a good game, yes he was out of position for their goal but he defended well and had a few good moments building play.
The real issue here is the lack of movement up front: Jair, Vargas and Dimi speak different languages at the moment, can't really blame it on Hoff (who's NOT a striker) if there is no communication behind him.
Dimi is a bit of a mystery right now: however, look at the little chat he and Cowburn had before the goal... looks like Cowburn told him exactly what he was going to do, and Dimi put the ball in the perfect place - that was great to see.
Georgievski is a bit lost on the right... I'd move him to the left, Hoff RB.

And please PLEASE enough with the "Stand up - jump" BS

Le Fondre's goal scoring streak ended yesterday so a bit rough to call out NTS given he's done better than anyone else so far this season marking him.

Ernie will have Champness and Roy back in December or so and possibly Johnny K - which makes us a hell of a lot stronger all over the park.
Sydney last night demonstrated that they are vulnerable and at our full strength I can't see them giving us too many problems.

Call the engraver - trophy is ours.

[Negative Police]

Remember when Smurfs were good. Neither do I.

Jets havent even started the season yet. They still in pre season havin a laugh

[Macca]

It was very obvious that our forwards were staying narrow too often when we are building up from the back. Not sure if this is under instruction, so that boogs and Topor can launch a ball to Hoff and try to have people nearby to collect scraps, but that is such a rubbish strategy, even when Hoff is winning headers - he usually does well at this but hardly won a thing on the weekend.

The amount of times the ball was played out to our fullbacks who looked up the line wanting to see the winger showing feet and saw noone at all available to pass to was no doubt as frustrating for them as it was for us.

Listening to the pre season interview the Jetstream did with Ernie, he said he wants his three forwards playing as "strikers", not one striker and two wingers, with the width to come from the fullbacks. That's all well and good once we're up at their box, we want to get the fullbacks up and down the outside. But to get to that point you need the wide forwards stretching wide to provide easy options for ball progression, as well as freeing up more space in the centre when the opposing fullbacks have to come wide to mark them. At the moment our whole front 4 just stay within 20 metres of each other right near the centre backs, leaving no options but for a long ball to be played in to them. Starting positions of these wide players has to change.

Jackson had a great game I thought.

Georgievski has been pretty average so far this season. Should put Hoffy back to RB and drop him to the bench, and reshuffle the forward line. Whether that's Shepherd into striker or Jair up top.

The other thing mentioned by Ernie in the interview was that he wants Dimi close to Ronny so that when Ronny is marked or double teamed, Dimi is close by to take advantage of that. Fair enough perhaps, but I still think that concept needs tinkering with (imo leave it to further up the pitch, or for quick counters, not slow buildup), because having all the attackers narrow and no wide options is killing us at the moment.

I'm not too concerned yet, I think we will get there.

[StannyCFCJET]

It was very obvious that our forwards were staying narrow too often when we are building up from the back. Not sure if this is under instruction, so that boogs and Topor can launch a ball to Hoff and try to have people nearby to collect scraps, but that is such a rubbish strategy, even when Hoff is winning headers - he usually does well at this but hardly won a thing on the weekend.

The amount of times the ball was played out to our fullbacks who looked up the line wanting to see the winger showing feet and saw noone at all available to pass to was no doubt as frustrating for them as it was for us.

Listening to the pre season interview the Jetstream did with Ernie, he said he wants his three forwards playing as "strikers", not one striker and two wingers, with the width to come from the fullbacks. That's all well and good once we're up at their box, we want to get the fullbacks up and down the outside. But to get to that point you need the wide forwards stretching wide to provide easy options for ball progression, as well as freeing up more space in the centre when the opposing fullbacks have to come wide to mark them. At the moment our whole front 4 just stay within 20 metres of each other right near the centre backs, leaving no options but for a long ball to be played in to them. Starting positions of these wide players has to change.

Jackson had a great game I thought.

Georgievski has been pretty average so far this season. Should put Hoffy back to RB and drop him to the bench, and reshuffle the forward line. Whether that's Shepherd into striker or Jair up top.

The other thing mentioned by Ernie in the interview was that he wants Dimi close to Ronny so that when Ronny is marked or double teamed, Dimi is close by to take advantage of that. Fair enough perhaps, but I still think that concept needs tinkering with (imo leave it to further up the pitch, or for quick counters, not slow buildup), because having all the attackers narrow and no wide options is killing us at the moment.

I'm not too concerned yet, I think we will get there.

Your not going to get width or consistent attacking play from FB with Jackson at LB

[Retro Jet]

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/heroic-moments-newcastles-season-kick-started-hometown-hero?utm_source=&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=&utm_term=979072

Ummm...the big girl in the blue at the end of this Cowbie goal clip. The one going off like a fish milkshake.
What strip and scarf is she wearing?

[belchardo]

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/heroic-moments-newcastles-season-kick-started-hometown-hero?utm_source=&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=&utm_term=979072

Ummm...the big girl in the blue at the end of this Cowbie goal clip. The one going off like a fish milkshake.
What strip and scarf is she wearing?

:lulz: