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Jeterpool
20-11-2018, 09:26 AM
A-League 2018/19 Round 5 Western Sydney Wanderers v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 18 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 4, Wanderers Wins - 8, Drawn - 6


In Newcastle – 9 matches.
Jets Wins - 1, Wanderers Wins - 5, Drawn - 3
In Sydney - 9 matches
Jets Wins - 3, Wanderers Wins - 3, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 13760
Average Away A-League Crowd - 10984

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 21, Wanderers - 27
In Sydney -
Jets – 12, Wanderers - 13

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 5, Wanderers - 13

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 38 (36 yellow, 2 red), Wanderers 29 (29 yellow, 0 red)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (D Petratos 48', Nabbout 68') - Western Sydney Wanderers 2 (Riera 7' pen, Riera 67' pen) at Spotless Stadium, A-League, Round 20, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 20

Newcastle JetsWestern Sydney Wanderers
Jack DuncanVedran Janjetovic
Jason HoffmanJoshua Risdon
Nigel BoogaardBrendan Hamill
Nikolai Topor-StanleyMichael Thwaite
Daniel GeorgievskiRaul Llorente
Steven UgarkovicSteven Lustica
Wayne BrownRoly Bonevacia
Dimitri PetratosMarcelo Carrusca
Patricio RodriguezChristopher Ikonomidis
Andrew NabboutMark Bridge
Roy O'DonovanOriol Riera



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Koutroumbis 11', Hoffman 60', Kantarovski 68', Ugarkovic 84') – Wanderers 0, Round 12, Season 2017/18 at McDonald Jones Stadium, 22/12/2017.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Wanderers 3 (Bridge 6’, 33’, Visconte 80’), Round 27, Season 2012/13 at Hunter Stadium, 29/03/2013 & Jets 0 - Wanderers 3 (Corthwaite 40', Sotirio 42', Corthwaite 50'), Round 25, Season 2016/17 at Hunter Stadium, 1/4/2017.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Adam Taggart (3)
Wanderers - Mark Bridge (6)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss44003600000
3Jason Hoffman44033230110
4Nigel Boogaard44003600010
5Ben Kantarovski3121990000
6Steven Ugarkovic44013550020
7Dimitri Petratos44003601100
8Jair Edmundo44042670000
10Ronald Vargas44003601000
11Mitch Austin3030520100
13Ivan Vujica1010260000
14Kaine Sheppard3030700010
16Nick Cowburn2020241000
17Daniel Georgievski44013490020
22Lachlan Jackson44013340000
23Matthew Ridenton33012530010
32Angus Thurgate101080000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley44003600000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Markus Babbel - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 3 matches (1 win, 2 drawn, 0 losses = 33% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 2 drawn, 0 losses = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 4 matches (1 win, 0 drawn and 3 losses = 25% win ratio)
Richard Money - No Matches
Branko Culina - No Matches
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No Matches
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 0 losses = 50% win ratio)



TALKING POINTS:

General

Newcastle have been awarded just one penalty in this fixture's history compared to the 5 awarded to the Wanderers.
The two matches between these teams at Spotless Stadium have both ended in 2-2 draws.
Every second away fixture against the Wanderers, the Jets have scored 2 goals. This match is not the "second" fixture.
The Jets went undefeated against the Wanderers last season.
The last opposition player sent off in an away Jets' fixture was Nigel Boogaard in Round 8 of Season 13/14. That's a current streak of 65 consecutive matches.



Players

Nick Cowburn became the 81st player to score for the club in the A-League.
Nikolai Topor-Stanley will surpass Ben Kennedy's 114 A-League appearances for the club, moving into 4th in the overall standings.
Nigel Boogaard will surpass Taylor Regan's 68 appearances for the club, moving into 17th in the overall list.



Newcastle Jets

Newcastle have kept 2 clean sheets in their last 30 away matches.
The Jets have scored in 15 consecutive away fixtures in the A-League.



Western Sydney Wanderers

Markus Babbel will be the 4th different coach in the Wanderers dugout in the last 5 meetings between these two clubs.
The last 3 goals scored by the Wanderers against the Jets at Spotless Stadium have all been penalties.

Hunter403
20-11-2018, 09:37 AM
300 shots to their single effort and another loss

Jeterpool
20-11-2018, 09:45 AM
300 shots to their single effort and another loss

The run of no red cards really surprised me. I hadn't noticed it before now.

plague
20-11-2018, 09:49 AM
Gonna get flogged.
Prob blame Dimi.

Gypos whiteanting the club is sad to see.

Couscous
20-11-2018, 10:11 AM
With Nabbout, we would win this game.

Negative Police
20-11-2018, 06:27 PM
2-1 greasers

MFKS
20-11-2018, 06:51 PM
This stat on the last player sent off I take it that is for an opposition club??

Because I pretty certain Boogaard has been sent plenty since then for us

Though he is over due at present

StannyCFCJET
20-11-2018, 07:15 PM
This stat on the last player sent off I take it that is for an opposition club??

Because I pretty certain Boogaard has been sent plenty since then for us

Though he is over due at present
None since Millers season

MFKS
20-11-2018, 07:56 PM
None since Millers season

Who will ever forget the week he got sent off and the club got him off only for him to celebrate by giving away a pen and getting sent off when we were 1-0 up late in the 2nd half so as we can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

What a time that was to be alive

MFKS
23-11-2018, 08:21 PM
How about the ground

Picking shards of plastic off the pitch just before warm up as the groundsman has failed in his duty of care and basic WH&S by having not removed them from the surface from their last event


Joke

Jetmaster
23-11-2018, 08:42 PM
What about the f÷%ing screws Ernie found? Bet Ronny tears open his thigh.

StannyCFCJET
23-11-2018, 08:51 PM
1588

From Adam Peacock's twitter

380
23-11-2018, 08:55 PM
What about the f÷%ing screws Ernie found? Bet Ronny tears open his thigh.

I am tipping that fell out of Ernie's head, you would have to have few loose ones in order to continue selecting Hoff upfront

Jetmaster
23-11-2018, 08:56 PM
Yes Adam, last years game did have one of the goals of the season. In fact it WAS the goal of the season. Wonder why it hasnt been seen at all in this years coverage.

Beath on VAR....we're doomed.

MFKS
23-11-2018, 09:01 PM
This pitch

One of the worst visual presented pitches in the HAL

Absolute farce

Frodo
23-11-2018, 09:06 PM
That free kick routine is reason enough that we should be relegated this year.

Jetmaster
23-11-2018, 09:13 PM
Ugar not finding anyone yet.

MFKS
23-11-2018, 09:21 PM
Are these blokes capable of getting a shot or a ball into the box without hitting an opponent??

Couscous
23-11-2018, 09:22 PM
F^ck the doubters.

furns
23-11-2018, 09:23 PM
All you Hoffy haters can ggf lol

Couscous
23-11-2018, 09:23 PM
The Hoff playing in conditions he thrives in.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsrKalaVYAE3TUy.jpg

plague
23-11-2018, 09:24 PM
Topors touch was sublime.

plague
23-11-2018, 09:25 PM
All you Hoffy haters can ggf lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/WSvYuKhLwaxuE/giphy.gif

Jetmaster
23-11-2018, 09:27 PM
Such a Hoff goal.

Couscous
23-11-2018, 09:28 PM
Another beautiful moment from Hoff, unfortunately laying off to his less-skilled colleague, Dimi.

plague
23-11-2018, 09:38 PM
3 ****ing times in a minute Moss was useless.
can we get BK out of retirement?

Frodo
23-11-2018, 09:41 PM
3 ****ing times in a minute Moss was useless.
can we get BK out of retirement?

I'm even starting to wish for Italiano. Moss having a shocker, bar the save early on.

MFKS
23-11-2018, 09:49 PM
Hey Plague

Your mate Jair is super trash tonight

**** he is that honking if we got offered Raheem as a trade I would be incredibly tempted to take the Gypos up on it


Bloke though who is to me our biggest issue at the moment is Vargas

This BS about him being the best no 10 in the HAL

FMD

For all the fancy flicks and touches 30/50m from goal

Simple question

Where is his end product??
He dont score
He dont shoot
He doesnt terrify the opposition like Griff did

How can he be the best no 10 in the comp when there is nothing to show for it??

Could make a case it time we dropped him and played Dimi at 10

Couscous
23-11-2018, 09:52 PM
Can someone please explain: is this pitch Frank Lowy's fault, or Stephen Lowy's fault?

MFKS
23-11-2018, 10:01 PM
How bad is Hoffman

**** me

plague
23-11-2018, 10:02 PM
yeah anyway did Member see Vargas beat everyone then have to give it to Hoffman because Odonovan is trash.

but yeah i think thats Frank Lowys fault too Couscous.

plague
23-11-2018, 10:04 PM
Is Kanta our best player tonight by sheer fact of not being complete trash?

Retro Jet
23-11-2018, 10:06 PM
How's Speedie with Boogs 2nd questionable challenge.
Can the VAR guys hear this sh!t?
Of course, those prats in baby blue never come under scrutiny.

Frodo
23-11-2018, 10:06 PM
Could make a case it time we dropped him and played Dimi at 10

Vargas is working with peanuts around him. He is doing his part.

Dimi is the one who should be dropped. He currently looks as good as Jair. Form is temporary, So I have no doubt he will come good. But he is struggling for form terribly at the moment.

monz6
23-11-2018, 10:07 PM
We are so so bad defensively! That 10 mins before the break was the worst defending I’ve ever seen by a jets team (that I can recall). I don’t know how WSW have not scored. Hate bagging out the boys but if they keep this up it’s going to be a long ugly season.

Retro Jet
23-11-2018, 10:12 PM
These missed chances usually cost us..

Frodo
23-11-2018, 10:14 PM
Jair has moved to Striker. Interested to see how this goes.

baldrick
23-11-2018, 10:17 PM
We are so so bad defensively! That 10 mins before the break was the worst defending I’ve ever seen by a jets team (that I can recall). I don’t know how WSW have not scored. Hate bagging out the boys but if they keep this up it’s going to be a long ugly season.

Except maybe that time we got spanked 7-0 in the Stubbins year

Jetmaster
23-11-2018, 10:19 PM
Get Cowburn on for Ugar.

Retro Jet
23-11-2018, 10:21 PM
Josh Risdon
NT shoe in.
Fml....

Retro Jet
23-11-2018, 10:24 PM
Agent Majok is working out for us really well tonight, although I can't recall him ever playing for us :blush:

plague
23-11-2018, 10:24 PM
how many of you would swap Hoff for that pelican WSW have up front?

monz6
23-11-2018, 10:24 PM
Except maybe that time we got spanked 7-0 in the Stubbins year

It’s not that bad but I reckon if this wanderers team could play we’d be down by a fair few

Frodo
23-11-2018, 10:25 PM
Josh Risdon
NT shoe in.
Fml....

He's the best player on the pitch. That is disgusting and everyone else should be ashamed of themselves for this exact fact.

plague
23-11-2018, 10:25 PM
im seriously now.
Jackson has hit peak Jackson.
his season is over.
Bring in Ivan.

Jetmaster
23-11-2018, 10:25 PM
Can we keep the ball a while ffs?

StannyCFCJET
23-11-2018, 10:26 PM
Jackson = Heart Attack

Frodo
23-11-2018, 10:27 PM
Jair has moved to Striker. Interested to see how this goes.

Didn't last long...

Retro Jet
23-11-2018, 10:33 PM
Majok: great cross!

Frodo
23-11-2018, 10:45 PM
Here comes the stomach punch

Frodo
23-11-2018, 10:48 PM
Not what I expected....


Great finish from the best 10 in the HAL tho.

Couscous
23-11-2018, 10:49 PM
♥️ Jets

Retro Jet
23-11-2018, 10:50 PM
Here comes the stomach punch
For these phucks...for a change.
They need weak ankles :rof:

Couscous
23-11-2018, 10:50 PM
Thought we did well in the last 20. A lot of fight. Looked much better with the ball.

Jetmaster
23-11-2018, 10:50 PM
Be honest...we were pants.

plague
23-11-2018, 10:52 PM
Thought we did well in the last 20. A lot of fight. Looked much better with the ball.

yeah i agree.

seriously though. **** wanderers.

plague
23-11-2018, 10:53 PM
think we can trade Ridenton to a Qatari team for a bag of balls or some oil or something?

MFKS
23-11-2018, 10:55 PM
Be honest...we were pants.

To be fair so were the opposition

Both teams had 4/5 chances They took none
We took 2

Thats the game

Being decisive in both boxes on the park

Tonight we were better iat it than the opposition

380
23-11-2018, 11:44 PM
Hoff finally finding the net with one of those sitters he so often butchers.

Retro Jet
23-11-2018, 11:48 PM
Majok (Strap) the best Jets player tonight.
Defended better than Jackson!

Tommyjet
24-11-2018, 07:30 AM
A win is a win. We we're fortunate not to concede. Combination play was good until Hoff tried silly flick ons or missed feet, also dimi turning back every time. Good times ahead imo.

Bremsstrahlung
24-11-2018, 08:57 AM
Majok (Strap) the best Jets player tonight.
Defended better than Jackson!

I’m still not sure how he managed to keep a few of those away from goal.

MFKS
24-11-2018, 09:37 AM
I’m still not sure how he managed to keep a few of those away from goal.

Bloke has some speed and athleticism etc

But hus touch is honkingly bad

Shit pitch or not he couldnt hide his shitful touch which was on display at least 6 times being highly costly to his side

The Dunster
24-11-2018, 10:00 AM
Probably the Jets worst performance all season.
The ball movement is painfully slow and unlike last season we give the opposition far too much time to close down our attacks.
When we did move the ball quickly Dimi and Ronny scored our 2nd goal.
Boogs lack of pace is really starting to show and he's slowly but surely getting dragged out wide by teams now and struggling to recover defensively.
Wanderers were very unlucky not to get a point from the game.
Vargas is the best player in the A-League.

plague
24-11-2018, 11:30 AM
Ugabooga man is now running out the full 90m, which is a massive difference to the first few games.
He was either injured back then, or Kantas return has freed him up a hell of a lot more.


but the last 10 mins he was always supporting those breaks, if he gets anywhere near last years form, and with a fit Vargas, we have hope.

BP Super Dynamos
24-11-2018, 11:57 AM
I don't care whether Ronald is the best 10 in the league or not. But his 2 goals this year were delectable. Been a long time since someone in Jets colours has finished with such assuredness

MFKS
24-11-2018, 01:23 PM
On another note

The referee last night


How ****ing good was he??

Compared to the shit cunce like Beath Evans Gilette and co a world beater

How often do we see a game in Oz where the ref is a peripheral figure ??

Lets start importing a few referees to the league to raise standards here

380
24-11-2018, 01:32 PM
Absolutely the best #10 in this league by a country mile. Shame the the club with all its notice has given him nothing by ways of a #9 to work with thus far.

Did anybody else hear Cornflakes in the pre game last night mention Jair's scoring for fun in the K League and bemused like 99% of the population why he has not been given significant time in the 9 ?.

380
24-11-2018, 01:38 PM
On another note

The referee last night


How ****ing good was he??

Compared to the shit cunce like Beath Evans Gilette and co a world beater

How often do we see a game in Oz where the ref is a peripheral figure ??

Lets start importing a few referees to the league to raise standards here

This. I commented to my young bloke just how often a " all about me Beath " would have pulled the game up when it didn't need to be and handed out yellows for soft shit where this bloke did not.

I also thought he had a good game.

baldrick
24-11-2018, 01:45 PM
On another note

The referee last night


How ****ing good was he??

Compared to the shit cunce like Beath Evans Gilette and co a world beater

How often do we see a game in Oz where the ref is a peripheral figure ??

Lets start importing a few referees to the league to raise standards here

I hate to agree with The Member...but the best ref I've seen in the aleague for yonks.

belchardo
24-11-2018, 03:29 PM
i know this isn't the only issue, but the field last night may have had something to do with the terrible performance from both teams last night.

honestly, A-league should be giving Spotless or Wanderers (whoever is considered to be responsible) the biggest fine in australian football ever for turning out a pitch that shit

Georgevski apparently torn a groin.

PFA comment: http://pfa.net.au/news/statement-on-spotless-stadium-pitch-on-23-november-2018/

MFKS
24-11-2018, 03:50 PM
i know this isn't the only issue, but the field last night may have had something to do with the terrible performance from both teams last night.

honestly, A-league should be giving Spotless or Wanderers (whoever is considered to be responsible) the biggest fine in australian football ever for turning out a pitch that shit

Georgevski apparently torn a groin.

PFA comment: http://pfa.net.au/news/statement-on-spotless-stadium-pitch-on-23-november-2018/


Weak as piss from the PFA

If they were fait dinkum they would have told the players last night not to play

If they think the field was unsatisfactory then why did they allow their reps to face the danger ??

Retro Jet
24-11-2018, 04:34 PM
Just on the field too chasps...and any chaspette's.
That plastic...
That's exactly what a plastic cup looks like after it's been through a cylinder mower.
As soon as I saw that I thought that the green keeper at Sh!tless Stadium has mowed the ground without a proper scouring of debris from the concert.

Jetmaster
24-11-2018, 05:42 PM
On another note

The referee last night


How ****ing good was he??

Compared to the shit cunce like Beath Evans Gilette and co a world beater

How often do we see a game in Oz where the ref is a peripheral figure ??

Lets start importing a few referees to the league to raise standards here

Speed was losing his shit, calling for yellow cards and VAR interventions - he just didn't understand what the ref was doing - refereeing.

Alton
26-11-2018, 01:55 PM
On another note

The referee last night


How ****ing good was he??

Compared to the shit cunce like Beath Evans Gilette and co a world beater

How often do we see a game in Oz where the ref is a peripheral figure ??

Lets start importing a few referees to the league to raise standards here
He was outstanding.

Alton
26-11-2018, 01:59 PM
Absolutely the best #10 in this league by a country mile. Shame the the club with all its notice has given him nothing by ways of a #9 to work with thus far.

Did anybody else hear Cornflakes in the pre game last night mention Jair's scoring for fun in the K League and bemused like 99% of the population why he has not been given significant time in the 9 ?.

Jair has to play 9, it is a no brainer, if no good then well ok. Thoughts on Jair at 9 with two 10's (Ronny and Dimi)? I no the problem then becomes who is the one 6 that plays, Ben or Ugar?

StannyCFCJET
26-11-2018, 02:28 PM
Jair has to play 9, it is a no brainer, if no good then well ok. Thoughts on Jair at 9 with two 10's (Ronny and Dimi)? I no the problem then becomes who is the one 6 that plays, Ben or Ugar?

We need width

plague
26-11-2018, 02:30 PM
Jair has to play 9, it is a no brainer, if no good then well ok. Thoughts on Jair at 9 with two 10's (Ronny and Dimi)? I no the problem then becomes who is the one 6 that plays, Ben or Ugar?

How many games til odonvan comes back?
Cant see Ernie changing things.
He seems convinced this is the way to go.

Bon
26-11-2018, 02:35 PM
How many games til odonvan comes back?
Cant see Ernie changing things.
He seems convinced this is the way to go.

3 more games without him, I think..

Alton
27-11-2018, 02:00 PM
We need width

Jair can't play wide and Dimi doesn't want to play there, best options wide are Hoff and Joey

StannyCFCJET
27-11-2018, 02:27 PM
Jair can't play wide and Dimi doesn't want to play there, best options wide are Hoff and Joey

As well as Austin and our FBs with Georgie and Ivan playing